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Speaker 1: Well who would you rather see them play? The Flyers

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Speaker 1: I don't know anyone could argue with that. Rick and

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Speaker 1: Come across a little bit ago. I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: But the only reason it was quote unquote an outrage

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Speaker 1: it is because you know, we were able to We

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Speaker 1: were able to find a victim, the poor little black

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Speaker 1: female coach who was victimized by the big bad meaning.

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Speaker 1: I assure you if it was two male coaches, or

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Speaker 1: if it was two female coaches, nobody would be saying

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Speaker 1: a word about it. But that's sort of where we're at.

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Speaker 1: We've got to find a victim in every situation. And

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Speaker 1: it's so disingenuous to me. The takes were stupid about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just last week, the Florida coach who you

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Speaker 1: know him, and the Iowa coach on the men's side,

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Speaker 1: they were john went with each other. They were screaming

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Speaker 1: and yelling at each other and had to be held

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Speaker 1: back on the sidelines and all that other stuff. Nobody

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Speaker 1: battered an eye about it. Nobody cared five seconds after

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Speaker 1: the game was over, and I think the Iowa was

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Speaker 1: coaches common was, yeah, they got a little sensitive about

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Speaker 1: the fact they were losing or whatever.

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Speaker 6: That was it.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, sometimes these controversies are so stupid that I can't

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Speaker 1: even believe that we entertain them. But then again, unfortunately

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Speaker 1: I can one Oh five ninety.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have been talking about the Pirates and the

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Speaker 1: Penguins both have big weekendsas this past weekend. Joining me

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Speaker 1: now is our good friend Josh Joey from the Athletic

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Speaker 1: Josh Uh, before we get started, just help me settle

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Speaker 1: an argument, will you please? I'm gonna call on you

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Speaker 1: to go outside of your immediate area of expertise to

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Speaker 1: the fact that you follow sports. You followed the Steelers, correct.

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Speaker 1: I actually put out a poll, and I'm I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you which way it's gone, and I'll just

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Speaker 1: say it's gone really big one way. But would you

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Speaker 1: rather the Steelers have lost a got to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: like they did and then of course they got skull

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Speaker 1: dragged by Houston, right, so got to the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: lost their game. Or would you rather if I said,

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Speaker 1: your your other choices, they missed the playoffs, but they

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Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick in the draft. What

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Speaker 1: would you rather have?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think that's kind of a no brainer, Paul.

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Speaker 8: I would take the number one pick in the draft

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Speaker 8: all day, every day especially. I mean I would take

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Speaker 8: that at any at any point in time. But given

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Speaker 8: that there's a really good quarterback who's gonna go first,

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Speaker 8: and that's exactly what they need, Gie, I think that's

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Speaker 8: a no brainer. That's the direction I'm going.

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Speaker 1: Right, But I have a couple of yahoo's on on

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Speaker 1: Twitter who are arguing with me that they that I

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Speaker 1: don't know what I'm talking about, that Steelers, that Steeler

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Speaker 1: fans want to be in the playoffs because if you're

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you have a chance. And my point

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Speaker 1: is you haven't had a chance for like seven or

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Speaker 1: eight years. The only people that are I thought you've

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Speaker 1: had a chance are the super Homer delusional you know,

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold. Hooray for the Steelers guys, because the

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Speaker 1: bottom line is, nobody some people thought, well maybe they

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Speaker 1: could bet Houston. Nobody thought that they could go much

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Speaker 1: further than that.

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Speaker 8: But the bottom line is, like I always say, Paul,

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Speaker 8: like I always say, the Steelers are synonymous with great

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Speaker 8: defense more than any franchise in history. The only time

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Speaker 8: they ever won a Super Bowls when they had a

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Speaker 8: Hall of Fame quarterback.

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Speaker 5: You still need it. It's just the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And I tell the other part of it, Josh,

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Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: need a quarterback. So you're telling me you'd rather go

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs last year and lose to the Texans

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Speaker 1: than maybe draft a guy who's going to be your

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Speaker 1: next guy, your guy for the next fifteen years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about it? It just goes to

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Speaker 1: show you, Josh, that there are people who exist in

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Speaker 1: social media that will argue with anything that you say

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Speaker 1: or write, no matter how much of a no brainer

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 8: That's right, what's up myself on occasion? So I can

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Speaker 8: understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just uh, it's just ridiculous. Anyway, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about team you covering. Uh, quite the turn of events.

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Speaker 1: You know, probably two weeks ago, Uh, there was just

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Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of a maybe a week

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Speaker 1: and a half ago, there was a little bit of

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Speaker 1: nerves about maybe they, you know, might not qualify for

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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: If they do, they you know, might they'll probably have

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Speaker 1: to play on the road against the Islanders. And here

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Speaker 1: we sit. The Penguins are clearly going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They're clearly in command of the of home home ice

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Speaker 1: for the first first series, and the Islanders just fired

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Speaker 1: their coach to try and you know, figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to stay, you know, to get into the playoffs chase.

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Speaker 8: It's been a fascinating past week and I think it

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Speaker 8: was the Penguins, who probably got Patrick Waughugh fired when

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Speaker 8: they went to New York last week and beat them,

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Speaker 8: I think it was eight to three, really embarrassed them

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Speaker 8: on their home ice. So so all of a sudden

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Speaker 8: that has happened and the Penguins have really you know,

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Speaker 8: they had to survive March. They played seventeen games and

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Speaker 8: thirty one month days in March, just the most games

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Speaker 8: that any team has ever played in a month at

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Speaker 8: NHL history. And it wasn't just how busy the schedule was, Paul,

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Speaker 8: it was the quality of the teams they were playing.

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Speaker 8: Fourteen of those seventeen teams are in the playoff race

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Speaker 8: right now, and they survived it. They went better than

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Speaker 8: five hundred, and you saw what they did against a

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Speaker 8: team that's really hanged up and not very good right

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Speaker 8: now in Florida over the weekend. It's been quite a season, really,

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Speaker 8: and now all of a sudden, with the Islanders and

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Speaker 8: Bluejackets stumbling, it looks like there's a better than fifty

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Speaker 8: to fifty percent chance that we're going to get Penguins

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Speaker 8: Flyers in the first round.

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Speaker 5: And as a.

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Speaker 8: Professional sports writer, Paul I couldn't ask for anything more.

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Speaker 1: Well, it is kind of interesting, isn't it. And I

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Speaker 1: think the idea that you know, the Penguins, if you

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Speaker 1: think about it, are not only going to make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: probably are going to have like two games maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of games where they can rest guys before

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, who would have thought that just

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Speaker 1: like a week and a half ago.

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Speaker 8: No, it's incredible, and you're right, they probably only need

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Speaker 8: to win one more game to clinch having home ice.

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Speaker 5: And if that's the case, just the way.

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Speaker 8: The schedule works out, it looks like the playoffs could start.

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Speaker 8: It'll be Saturday or Sunday in all likelihood, game one

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Speaker 8: in a couple of weeks, and they probably won't play

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Speaker 8: any of their big names in Saint Louis, which is

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Speaker 8: on next Tuesday, their last game with the regular season.

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Speaker 8: So that gives everyone about a full week to get

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Speaker 8: healthy and rest, and especially when you consider how important

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Speaker 8: some of the older guys on this team are. I mean,

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Speaker 8: Eric Carlson might be their MVP's been incredible and Crowsley

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Speaker 8: and Malkin are pushing forty in Latang. Also, they get

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Speaker 8: them a full week off before the playoffs. That's a

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Speaker 8: luxury that I don't think many people thought they were

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Speaker 8: going to have. But now they've earned it. They played

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Speaker 8: great hockey, they've absolutely earned it. So that and also

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Speaker 8: started home and I would think it's going to be

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Speaker 8: a pretty rockets atmosphere the first time we've seen playoff

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Speaker 8: hockey here in four years. For the fans, they get

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Speaker 8: to see so Crosby, Malkin and Lestang in the playoffs again,

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Speaker 8: even if it's one last time, it should be quite

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Speaker 8: an event.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, obviously the Penguins, you know, getting back

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs. You know, it's sort of a year

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Speaker 1: that didn't know a lot of people expected them to

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Speaker 1: get anywhere close to the playoffs. I mean that's a

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Speaker 1: story in and of itself. But as you said, you know,

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Speaker 1: the fact that they're going to get a home series

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Speaker 1: and very likely against the Flyers, I mean, it rights itself,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it?

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Speaker 5: Oh, it sure does.

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Speaker 8: And it's funny the last few years against the Flyers

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Speaker 8: hasn't felt like Penguins and Flyers.

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Speaker 5: Neither team's some very good.

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Speaker 8: There hasn't been the same hostility as usual. That all

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Speaker 8: changed the first time they met in Philadelphia this year,

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Speaker 8: back in November there was an all out brawl at

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Speaker 8: the end of the game. Sidney Crosby wasn't allowed to

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Speaker 8: participate in the shootout because he left the bench during

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Speaker 8: a fight at the end of overtime. Like it got

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Speaker 8: pretty wild with Trevor Zegres in the middle of it

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Speaker 8: all in his first year in Philadelphia, really.

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Speaker 5: Got under the Penguins skin. They don't like him at all.

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Speaker 8: And adding even more to the drama, you have personal

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Speaker 8: friend of the Penguins and Sidney Crosby, Rick Tockett as

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Speaker 8: the head coach behind the Flyers bench man. It's it's

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Speaker 8: central casting. I'm sure ESPN and TNT are salivating for.

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Speaker 5: This to happen. I have no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean they've won eight of eleven. What has

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Speaker 1: sort of been you know what they've done well that

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Speaker 1: they putting themselves back in you know this spot where

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Speaker 1: they're going to make the playoffs. The Yeah, well that's.

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Speaker 8: A good question because when you look at them on paper.

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Speaker 5: They're not impressive.

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Speaker 8: You put the Penguins names beside the Flyers' names and

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Speaker 8: you take the Penguins all day. They do have a

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Speaker 8: lot of depth forward and they just called up an

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Speaker 8: eighteen year old rookie. He might be nineteen now up

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Speaker 8: Porter Martone is his name, and boy is he made

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Speaker 8: a real difference just in his first few games with

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Speaker 8: the Flyers. He was in Ben Kendall's draft class last year,

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Speaker 8: like the Penguins really like too, but they knew they

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Speaker 8: weren't going to be able to draft him. A big

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Speaker 8: power forward, classic Philly kind of player. He's made them better.

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Speaker 8: They're good upfront, pau They're actually in some ways like

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Speaker 8: the Penguins. The strength of their team is at forward.

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Speaker 8: They don't have good goaltending. Really, they give up a

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Speaker 8: lot of goals there. They're blue line is average at best.

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Speaker 8: But they're just kind of deep a forward, kind of

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Speaker 8: like the Penguins without the big names, and they are

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Speaker 8: they are just the proverbial hot team right now. There's

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Speaker 8: nothing really special about them, but there's always that one

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Speaker 8: team that you know goes into the playoffs winning nine

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Speaker 8: out of ten games, that you know you're a little

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Speaker 8: scared to play, and that they certainly had that look

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Speaker 8: right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I think the biggest thing is, you know,

651
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: it's interesting, and I talked about how expectations changed as

652
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: the season goes on, like the way the Peng played.

653
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: It's obviously, you know, a successful season making the playoffs,

654
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: but if they host the Flyers and lose it probably

655
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: it probably puts a little bit of a damper on things,

656
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: doesn't it.

657
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

658
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 8: I've been saying, oh, you're like, if they just make

659
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 8: the playoffs, they're playing with house money, then that's just

660
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 8: a great story to see these guys in the playoffs

661
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 8: one last time.

662
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 6: And it is.

663
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 8: But yeah, now you're looking at a situation where you

664
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Speaker 8: would be the pretty heavy favorite and you're playing against

665
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 8: the team.

666
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 5: You hate the most.

667
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 8: You don't want that to be the last time Crosby

668
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 8: and Malcol them the Tang play in the playoffs together,

669
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 8: going out.

670
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 5: Against the Flyers in the first round. So I think

671
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 5: there does.

672
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 8: Add a little bit of pressure there for sure. But

673
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Speaker 8: I would also counter that by saying there's no team

674
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 8: those guys would rather play, Especially Crosby.

675
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 5: I think it's been pretty well known.

676
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 8: Even though he doesn't really speak of it publicly that

677
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 8: much anymore, Like that's a franchise that didn't treat him

678
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 8: very well when he entered the league, and he's just

679
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 8: never forgotten about it, and he's been making them pay.

680
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 8: Ever since, no player in history has ever put up

681
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 8: more goals against the Flyers, and he has. He loves

682
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 8: playing against them, So it would be a comfortable series

683
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 8: on some level for the Penguins. That's a team they

684
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 8: certainly enjoyed playing against more times than not.

685
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: Is it a better match up than Columbus or the

686
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: Islanders would be?

687
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 8: You know, it's really interesting because the Islanders are a

688
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 8: mess right now. But they have one thing the Penguins

689
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 8: and Columbus and the Flyers don't have. The Islanders have

690
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 8: a great goalie. Ilio Serrocan is absolutely one of the

691
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 8: great goalies in the league. And yeah, the Penguins chased

692
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 8: him last week. They did, but you still have to

693
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 8: beat that guy four out of seven. And I don't

694
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 8: know what to acpect with them now. Let's say fire

695
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 8: Patrick Wall like that. That can go in a number

696
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 8: of different directions. Peter de Boor is a very good coach.

697
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 8: He's done for coaching defense. And that's the Islanders problem

698
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 8: right now. And if you know your Penguin's history, you

699
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 8: don't ever want to play the Islanders in the playoffs.

700
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 8: That's that's the team that gives them more fits than

701
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 8: anyone for what it's worth, Columbus, I don't know.

702
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 5: I think the Penguins would be Columbus quite honestly. But

703
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 5: I don't think Philly is the.

704
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 8: Worst matchup though I still think that they stack up

705
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 8: pretty well against them, all things considered.

706
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: What's the latest with the goalies? You know it's going

707
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: into this last week of the season. Skinner, I know,

708
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: had an injury of some sort. What is the latest

709
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: and how will they approach the next four games?

710
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 8: Well, Stewart Skinner hurt his left eye. He was actually

711
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 8: sitting on the bench. It was late in the game

712
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 8: on Saturday. A puck came into the bench and hit

713
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 8: him in the eye. He's got a really nasty gash

714
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 8: right by his eye and a black eye, which is

715
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 8: why he didn't play yesterday. I do believe if he

716
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 8: is healthy, he will be the number one guy. Archer

717
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 8: she loves, has not been good lately. He played better yesterday,

718
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 8: but his last ten games have been absolutely brutal. I

719
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 8: can't imagine him at this point getting a playoff start.

720
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 8: I think Skinner's the guy. I know the fan base

721
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 8: is clamoring to see Sergei Miroshov, who has put up

722
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 8: an unbelievable season, and Will Berry, we all know he's

723
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 8: the guy of the future. If something were to happen

724
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 8: to Skinner, if he can't play, or you know, if

725
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 8: he has a terrible start to the series, could I

726
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 8: envision a scenario when Miroshop comes up and tries to

727
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 8: save the day. Sure, I think they'd be more comfortable

728
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 8: with him playing than she loves right now. But I

729
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 8: still fully expect Skinner to be the guy. He's not

730
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 8: a great goalie, but he's a pretty solid one and

731
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 8: he has been in the last two Stanley Cup finals,

732
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 8: so it's not like the playoff pressure should get to him, right.

733
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: But he's he's got to get healthy, I mean obviously

734
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: as far as other guys. I mean, looks like the

735
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: Penguins are in pretty good safe health wise, right and

736
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean going into the playoffs, especially since they're probably

737
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: going to be able to rest a few guys. They are.

738
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 8: The only really notable guy who's hurt right now is

739
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 8: Blake Lazotte, their fourth line center. He broke his hand

740
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 8: in Utah two or three weeks ago. I think there's

741
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 8: a chance he can be ready for the start of

742
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 8: the playoffs. It's going to be pretty close, and they

743
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 8: have missed him in particular. The penalty kill has really

744
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 8: struggled lately, Paul, and I think his absence is a

745
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 8: big part of it. He's a great defensive player. That

746
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 8: fourth line is good with or without him, but it's

747
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 8: even better with him. So it'll be nice to get

748
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 8: him back. But boy, knock on wood, they aren't healthy

749
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 8: when you consider their age, the ages of their best players,

750
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 8: and you know how incredibly compressed the schedule has been,

751
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 8: you would take it right now, especially with Crosby and Malkin.

752
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 8: They look to be healthy, and Crosby especially really looked

753
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 8: himself over the weekend. He didn't look right when he

754
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 8: came back from the knee injury, but he finally looks

755
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 8: like he has his legs.

756
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have, I mean, I think obviously one of

757
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: the most interesting things Josh, when I was doing some

758
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: looking before getting ready for the show, is that I

759
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: think their top six goals scorers are all thirty somethings.

760
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: So as much as we're talking about the rebuilding and

761
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: the young guys and the young energy, I'm sorry, scores

762
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: not goal scorers there. Their top six point scores are

763
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 1: all thirty something guys.

764
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 5: No, I mean that's true, and in some ways it's

765
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 5: not ideal.

766
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 8: They do have a couple of young guys and Ben

767
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 8: Kendall and Neigor Chinikov who are gonna be really good

768
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 8: for a long time, so they finally do have some

769
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 8: young talent on the way. But there's no question they

770
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 8: are reliant on older guys. The fact is, Malcolm has

771
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 8: been better this year than he was last and Carlson

772
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 8: has been way better than he was last year. And

773
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 8: you signed Anthony Mantha who's been great, but he's thirty one.

774
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 8: So it's not a young team. But it is a

775
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 8: deep team and that's been a really important thing. Crosby

776
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 8: has played. I think it's the second lowest minutes total

777
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 8: he's ever played in and that's not necessarily because he's

778
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 8: thirty eight. It's because all four lines are so damn good.

779
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 8: They can roll four lines and keep everyone fresh, and

780
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 8: I really think that's halfed Crosby and Multi quite a bit.

781
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 8: They haven't I don't know if they can still carry

782
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 8: the load at their aid, maybe Crosby to some extent,

783
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 8: but you don't really want them playing huge minutes anymore.

784
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 8: And they haven't had to because this team is just

785
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 8: so deep, but it's really been great for them.

786
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Uh what what over the next few years

787
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: do you see as sort of Ben Kendall's what what what?

788
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 5: What?

789
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 6: Like?

790
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: Project what you think he's going to become. Obviously he's

791
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: really good right now, but he's he's really young, and

792
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: he's just sort of learning, and you know, he's I mean,

793
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: there's a lot that he's got to learn. I mean,

794
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: what what what do you think he'll become? I mean,

795
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, could he could he become like a sixty point.

796
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 6: Guy or oh yeah he could.

797
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 8: I don't know that he has the physical skill set

798
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 8: to ever be like a superstar in this league and

799
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 8: one hundred point guy. I don't know that he's that,

800
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 8: But not knocking him. He's really special. He does have

801
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 8: some very good physical attributes. I think if I had

802
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 8: to project where he'll be five to ten years from now,

803
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 8: I don't know if he'll be a legitimate number one center,

804
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 8: but I could see him being a great second line center,

805
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 8: somebody who gets your twenty five goals and seventy points

806
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 8: a year and who.

807
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: Plays shut down defense.

808
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 8: I've had scouts tell me that he is literally one

809
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 8: of the most intelligent eighteen year olds they have ever seen,

810
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 8: just in terms of hockey IQ And if you watch

811
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 8: Paul like the Penguins play a pretty chaotic brand of hockey.

812
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 8: They play a lot of high scoring games. They're not

813
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 8: really a good defensive team. They're all over the place.

814
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 8: When the eighteen year old has the puck, that's when

815
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 8: they look poised, that's when they look calm and everything

816
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 8: settles down. It's an incredible thing. But he just never

817
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 8: makes the wrong decision. It's a very rare thing for

818
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 8: a player at that age. He's pretty special. He really is, No,

819
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 8: there's no question. I mean, he has been really really

820
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 8: fun to watch and franctly. That was the other thing

821
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 8: I was going to ask you, Josh.

822
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: I was trying to come up with a coach, maybe Buffalo,

823
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: maybe Buffalo's guy. But how does Dan Muse not win Coach.

824
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: Of the ar.

825
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 8: I think Lindy Ruff's going to win it just from

826
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 8: everything I've heard. It'll be interesting broadcasters actually vote on that,

827
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 8: So maybe once again Borkiy's here.

828
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 5: I think Porky's gonna go Dan Muse for sure, but Lindy.

829
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 8: Roffs like listen, Buffalo entering the season had much higher

830
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 8: expectations than the Penguins. They have first round picks all

831
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 8: over the place on that team. Now, granted they had

832
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 8: never put it together and they have this season, but

833
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 8: the job mus has done not only he's dealing with

834
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 8: an eighteen year old like Kendall and all kinds of

835
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 8: new players on the team. And they brought him in

836
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 8: because of how well he works with young players, and

837
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 8: that's great, and he's obviously doing that, but he's also

838
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 8: not only been able to coexist with Crosby and Malkin

839
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 8: and Latang and Carlson, but they've been better under him,

840
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 8: and they've responded to him. And I can tell you

841
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 8: that Crosby, Malcolm and Latang they never wanted Mike Sullivan

842
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 8: to leave. They've all told me like they wanted that

843
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 8: to be their coach for life. And Kyle Dubas said,

844
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 8: that's too bad. I have other ideas and they had

845
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 8: to deal with that, and they have. Music has a

846
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 8: wonderful relationship with them. He's getting everything out of them.

847
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 8: So I would not be against him winning Coach of

848
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 8: the Year. And if Tubos doesn't win Executive of the Year,

849
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 8: there's something wrong, because the job he's done in the

850
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 8: last twelve months has been nothing short of extraordinary in

851
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 8: my view.

852
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: No, absolutely. I mean the thing about it is that

853
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: this is a really, really kind of fun, exciting team

854
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: to watch, whereas the last few years they haven't really

855
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: been all that fun to watch. They've been, you know,

856
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: one of those teams that you just sort of saw

857
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: a sort of a dying, kind of dinosaur kind of team,

858
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It just was kind of

859
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: good enough, but not really good enough. This team is fun.

860
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, they could win eight five or eight

861
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: two or eight one, and they can lose eight two

862
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: or eight one any night. No, you're right.

863
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 8: The last couple of years they've had the smell of

864
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 8: decay about them a little bit, and they haven't been

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Speaker 8: fun at all.

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Speaker 5: That they've been kind of dull.

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Speaker 8: And this team, even with some of the older guys

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Speaker 8: still around here, I have had so many fans tell

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Speaker 8: me on social media or whatever, like, man, I love

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Speaker 8: this team, Like I'm all back on the Penguins again.

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Speaker 8: The last couple of years we're rough because listen, the

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Speaker 8: Penguins have created some pretty high expectations in the City

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Speaker 8: the last forty years really, but especially in the Crosby era,

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Speaker 8: and everybody loves this team. There's just something about them.

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Speaker 8: And I think one of the things Paul, I can

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Speaker 8: tell you maybe two or three games all year when

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Speaker 8: I thought they didn't play hard, like this team plays

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Speaker 8: hard every single night. You're getting your money's worth, right,

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Speaker 8: And I know it's ticket turned cheap, but you're getting

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Speaker 8: your money's worth when you go to see this team play.

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Speaker 8: They are absolutely fun and I've been on the seventeen years,

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Speaker 8: probably my favorite group of guys that have dealt with

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Speaker 8: of any team. I mean, it's just a really legitimately

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Speaker 8: likable group on end off the ice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for Fish for sure. I mean I think it's

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Speaker 1: a really one of the best stories going right now.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, Josh, I appreciate. I know you're very busy.

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Speaker 1: I know this is your busy time and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: get much busier because it looks like you're gonna start

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Speaker 1: covering playoffs. So thank you so much, and let's do

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Speaker 1: it again soon.

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Speaker 5: Anytime my friend you're talking with you, it's Josh.

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Speaker 1: You're only from the athletic and I, of course Paul's lice.

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Speaker 1: I'm in for Mark Madden. It's one of five ninety X.

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Speaker 6: It's Travis every weekday at ten am, starting your workday

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Speaker 6: commercial free on one O five.

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Speaker 12: Forget this almost fifty pounds talk. I cruised right past that.

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Speaker 12: I'm down fifty two pounds fifty two. And that's not

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Speaker 12: the headline. The headline is what's actually happening. Visceral fat

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Speaker 12: is down, body fat percentage is down. Awaken one eighty

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Speaker 12: works every which way it can. With the meds, you

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Speaker 12: just eat less, less of the same bad things. Your

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Speaker 12: body scavenges muscle for fuel. That's not a win. With

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Speaker 12: Awaken one.

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Speaker 1: Eighty, you're eating to lose weight.

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Speaker 9: You're fueling your body, so it goes after the fat

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Speaker 9: for energy.

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Speaker 1: That's science, folks.

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Speaker 12: I don't know the first thing about body composition charts

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Speaker 12: or metabolic adjustments. That's why the weekly check ins matter.

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Speaker 12: The numbers don't lie, and they spell success for you.

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Speaker 12: With Awaken one to eighty, if something needs to change,

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Speaker 12: it changes.

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Speaker 1: I just execute.

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Speaker 12: That's why the fat keeps dropping and the muscle stays

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Speaker 12: fifty two pounds down.

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Speaker 1: And we're not done. Awaken one Eightyweight

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