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Speaker 2: But it didn't come to pass.

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Speaker 1: Did it all that work for yet another shootout loss

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Speaker 1: more surrounding the Steelers and more basketball turettes with Tommy

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Speaker 2: Tim Bens in for Mark for one more Day. Ninety

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Speaker 1: N NC State in front of pit Pitt is playing

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Speaker 2: It will go the route of last night's Penguins game.

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Speaker 2: Pitt will, despite this great effort, fall short against NC State.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe they're going to score maybe eighty five

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Speaker 1: Was nowhere near as upset at any of the other

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Speaker 2: Well, you're never supposed to win nine of ten shootouts

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Speaker 2: For the pay ended here in five exactly, especially when

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Speaker 1: The minute that Rust scored that goal, when they pulled

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Speaker 2: So you tweet that out?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I actually had Randy Marsh's face. I was thinking

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Speaker 2: Quick power ranking so far of the Penguins like impacting

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Speaker 1: They actually won in the face off circle last night too,

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Speaker 1: But the rationalization for not getting tro Check, and one

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Speaker 1: You mean Ben in the last year of his career.

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Speaker 2: And nobody wants to get rid of rust right now,

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not trying to readjudicate something that's already happened,

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Speaker 1: But I am saying this is gonna come up again

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Speaker 1: Yes, although they have the second most cap space in

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Speaker 2: They put up eighty eight pounds and lost. How is

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Speaker 1: You're Alec Pearce right now. You just got one hundred

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Speaker 1: Well, the goal of the legal tampering period was they

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know what the answer is. I

435
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Speaker 2: think they're still going to trade Crosby right like, I

436
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Speaker 2: think they're still going to move him off of their books,

437
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 2: but the leverage is so gone now, especially because other

438
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Speaker 2: teams can come back and say you need the cap

439
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 2: space exactly. That's the main point. They could also be like, well,

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Speaker 2: what about that knee that didn't pass the phi? You

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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like they the GM could know, oh,

442
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Speaker 2: Baltimore's you know, bs ing as far as that is

443
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Speaker 2: concerned in him not passing the physical. But I don't

444
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Speaker 2: need to let them know. I don't need to let

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Speaker 2: spy tech know that I know that's BS. I could

446
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Speaker 2: be like, well, I heard about this knee. I'm a

447
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Speaker 2: little concerned. I don't know if he's worth two first

448
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Speaker 2: round picks? Is he even worth one? John? I mean,

449
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying he failed a physical, so there's just

450
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Speaker 2: no leverage for them to trade him anymore. But I

451
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Speaker 2: don't know how they get around their books without doing that.

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Speaker 2: I will see this though. I think that.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty clear that Crosby is a significantly better player

454
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Speaker 1: than Hendrickson. I think Hendrickson is so much more of

455
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Speaker 1: a one trick pony pass rush and that's a sack

456
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Speaker 1: or nothing, kind of guess.

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Speaker 2: Their numbers pass rush rise are very equal. Then you

458
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Speaker 2: bring in what Crosby does against the run, and it's

459
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Speaker 2: they're not even close to the same player.

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Speaker 1: So I think that they get a player. They do,

461
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Speaker 1: but they're not giving up two picks to do it,

462
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Speaker 1: and they're paying the same price.

463
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Speaker 2: You should be able to run all over the Ravens

464
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Speaker 2: right now. They don't have any size really upfront whatsoever

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Speaker 2: on their defensive line. Do you think Mata Bouque is

466
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Speaker 2: done too? Like there's a there's a chance. I think

467
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Speaker 2: there never coming back. Like you can run all over

468
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Speaker 2: Baltimore at this point. Hendrickson doesn't help that at all.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Cam Hayward contract extension we come back.

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Speaker 2: This is one five nine the X.

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow nights the Penn's Face the Golden Knights. Game time

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Speaker 5: every game and the best Penn's coverage on your home

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Speaker 5: of the Pittsburgh Penguins one oh five nine.

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Speaker 2: D X the d You Game. Duke's basketball team take

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Speaker 2: on Rhode Island in the A ten Tournament at ppch

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Speaker 2: daines Serena, Thursday, March twelve. Tip Off is five pm

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Speaker 2: and playing by play can be here.

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Speaker 4: It's the Mark Man Free Game Show.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank Gwenne Phillips for joining us yesterday

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Speaker 1: from Penn's Lee. She was on the Hockey Night Show

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Speaker 1: before the Penguins game against the Carolina Hurricanes. We talked

483
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Speaker 1: a lot about that earlier in the broadcast already myself

484
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Speaker 1: and Tommy Radio here in the two o'clock hour the

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Speaker 1: Mark Madden Show, Tim Benn sitting in from Mark today. Gwyneth,

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Speaker 1: who went to Shady's Side Academy for four years, played

487
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Speaker 1: with Penn's Elite, was one of three goaltenders who won

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Speaker 1: gold in Italy. The one of the other ones David McNaughton.

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Speaker 1: She was on Mark right Wisconsin Gold Time. So when

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Speaker 1: I saw that Gwyneth had played at Northeastern and now

491
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Speaker 1: she's in the pro league in Ottawa.

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Speaker 2: It struck me, It hit me.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Yeah, Then Sidney Crosby's sister play goal

494
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Speaker 1: at Northeastern and I looked it up and apparently she

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Speaker 1: started her career at Northeastern and then transferred to Saint

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Speaker 1: Cloud and spent four years. I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: she ever played for Northeastern. I think she committed and

498
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Speaker 1: then changed her mind or transferred right away or something.

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Speaker 1: But the details aren't important.

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Speaker 2: What's important is Taylor Crosby's bio if you go to

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Speaker 2: like her bio is still up at St. Cloud even

502
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Speaker 2: though she's graduated. Since they like it's like it come

503
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Speaker 2: on last name. It's like every other college athletes by.

504
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Speaker 2: You know, every page is kind of the same thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, here's your stats, you know, here's your numbers,

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Speaker 1: this is where you played junior this you know, this

507
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Speaker 1: is where you went to high school. In a personal bio, basketball, hockey, whatever,

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Speaker 1: And then the last line is always personal. At the

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Speaker 1: bottom it says your parents' name, your siblings names, anything

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Speaker 1: else that's interesting about you. You know, sometimes there's something

511
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Speaker 1: funny in there. Can say the alphabet backwards or some

512
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Speaker 1: fun for you broadcasting what you major in? Things like

513
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Speaker 1: that has a dog named Scraps, you know, like something like.

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Speaker 2: That you can work with out there on the broadcast.

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Speaker 2: So Taylor's bio it says, grew up in Cole Harbor, Nova, Scotia,

516
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Speaker 2: daughter of Troy and Trina Crosby Dot dot dot. Older

517
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Speaker 2: brother Comma, Sydney Comma also plays hockey. That's it. That's

518
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Speaker 2: where the dot dot has a poodle name Scraps. You know.

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Speaker 2: That's that's fantastic. That's complete dead pain. I would love

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Speaker 2: to find whoever wrote that web page and shake their hands. Yeah,

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00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: and maybe even from a drink. Just that's beautifully done.

522
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Speaker 2: Also a hockey.

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Speaker 1: Player, yeah, older brother Kama, Sydney Kama also plays hockey.

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Speaker 2: Enjoys hockey as a bit of a habit, if you will.

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Speaker 2: He plays a beer leagues on this side. It's fun

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Speaker 2: for him. All right. Let's get to the Cam Hayward thing.

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Speaker 1: I put this poll up on Twitter, all right, and

528
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Speaker 1: I wasn't quite sure how it was going to go.

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Speaker 1: It is surprising me and we might have to talk

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Speaker 1: more about this as the show goes along. But I said,

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Speaker 1: very simple question, do you like the Cameron Hayward contract extension?

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Speaker 1: Yes or no? Fifty five percent say no. You're surprised

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Speaker 1: at that.

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Speaker 2: I am a little bit surprised at that. I thought

535
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Speaker 2: more people would be relieved that we wouldn't have to

536
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Speaker 2: go through the song and dance. Yes, because they were

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Speaker 2: going to do it anyway. Absolutely, we were gonna hold in.

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Speaker 2: It was gonna be the same thing. Now it's March. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people can bring to the

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Speaker 1: table on this answer. How over literal they are as

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Speaker 1: human beings, and like if you are literally yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: just happy it's over with.

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Speaker 2: Because they were gonna do it anyway. That's one reason

545
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Speaker 2: to say yes. Another reason say yes is that he

546
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Speaker 2: had a good year last year, so they're gonna do

547
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Speaker 2: it anyway.

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Speaker 1: And he had a good year last year. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, it opens up five million dollars right. He

550
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Speaker 1: led every defensive tackle in snaps last year. At thirty

551
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Speaker 1: six years old, he was a second team All Pro

552
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Speaker 1: and quite honestly, probably should have been the first team

553
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Speaker 1: All Pro. Top four bare minimum though defensive tackle in

554
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Speaker 1: the game. Sixteen million dollars guaranteed this year one year

555
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Speaker 1: sixteen million, and it's two years thirty two million. But

556
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, one year sixteen million

557
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Speaker 1: is all you really have to deal with because tim

558
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Speaker 1: if that bottom falls out, they can get out of

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Speaker 1: that second year incredibly easily. None of it's guaranteed, So

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Speaker 1: it's really like a nothing burger to me. Other than

561
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Speaker 1: the fact that I'm relieved that we don't have to

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Speaker 1: go through the Cam Heyward song and dance for the

563
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Speaker 1: next couple of years. The people are saying no, I

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Speaker 1: think are saying no for two reasons. Reason number one

565
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Speaker 1: is you just want to see this team move on,

566
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Speaker 1: and this is just yet another move to you keep

567
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Speaker 1: with the status quo. It is another symbolic embracing of

568
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Speaker 1: ten and eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I guess the other reason for people who say no,

571
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Speaker 1: I don't like it is you just want to be

572
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Speaker 1: done with them out of bitterness for what happened last year,

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Speaker 1: which I understand like I could. People just don't want

574
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Speaker 1: to see anybody rewarded for how they handle a situation

575
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Speaker 1: that they couldn't be able to think to advance, like

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Speaker 1: nobody else in their real job is gonna be able

577
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Speaker 1: to pull what Hayward did last.

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Speaker 2: Year, correct, But I hate when people look at that

579
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Speaker 2: through the same roundles. Look, I could show up to

580
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Speaker 2: the office and just tell my boss I'm not playing today,

581
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Speaker 2: Like okay, well, you're not a million dollar defensive tack

582
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Speaker 2: you work at dunkin dumb exactly. So Like I hate

583
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: that analogy, but you're right as far as the nose,

584
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Speaker 2: that's probably what they're drawing from there. That's probably the

585
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Speaker 2: experience they're driving from. Like he was a baby and

586
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Speaker 2: he was selfish, and you're gonna reward him. But they're

587
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Speaker 2: not rewarding him because of the noise that he made

588
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Speaker 2: last lesson. They're rewarding him because he was one of

589
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Speaker 2: the best defensive tackles in football last year. And yeah,

590
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Speaker 2: I get to turn the page thing too. And you

591
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Speaker 2: you don't want, as Mark's been saying, and I love it,

592
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Speaker 2: you don't want your locker room to turn into a museum.

593
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Speaker 3: He was a.

594
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Speaker 2: Second team All Pro last year. You save five million

595
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Speaker 2: dollars and you're not committed beyond this next year. As

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Speaker 2: far as Cam Hayward is concerned, it just doesn't seem

597
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Speaker 2: like any loss at any angle that I look at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if He's not bitching about his contract last year.

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Speaker 1: No one's bitching about this contract this year. In fact,

600
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Speaker 1: they're applauding it. They're saying, this is exactly what the

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Speaker 1: steel should be doing.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you another reason.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's something else that you just have to

604
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Speaker 1: bite your lip grin and Barrett, as relates to the Steelers,

605
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Speaker 1: was the cap savings this year for the Steelers on

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Speaker 1: Hayward's contract five point five? Exactly what do you think

607
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is gonna make he needs a five point

608
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Speaker 1: five million dollar raise? Is that where you're going at

609
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Speaker 1: fourteen fourteen to twenty fourteen to twenty something like that?

610
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think I think that Rogers, if he plays this year,

612
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Speaker 1: plays closer to twenty than fourteen.

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Speaker 2: See, I thought that there was maybe a little bit

614
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Speaker 2: of an angle there for John Who when you cut

615
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Speaker 2: John Whu and made him a bit of a cap.

616
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Speaker 1: Remember the math where John Who came into play was

617
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Speaker 1: when I broke down the Malik Willis contract.

618
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Speaker 2: That helped you get here getting way more.

619
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Speaker 1: But when we're talking about somewhere between twenty million and

620
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Speaker 1: thirty million, when like Jordan Schultz put out thirty and

621
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Speaker 1: Fowlers said, no, it's twenty. I said, split the difference,

622
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Speaker 1: and if you split the difference in factor, Rogers has

623
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Speaker 1: then gone, Mason is then gone. You get rid of

624
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Speaker 1: John new Smith. It's the exact same number.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it going from the Rogers per s. So

626
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Speaker 2: you save seven point five I think with John who

627
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Speaker 2: five point five with cam So, I mean you're you're

628
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: a thirteen million dollars worth of savings there. It does

629
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Speaker 2: seem to make sense that one of those two to

630
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: seven or the five is going to go into Rogers's pocket.

631
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Speaker 2: He's definitely gonna need a raise, and don't you think

632
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: he's gonna ask for one, like he's gonna expect that

633
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Speaker 2: or else he's not coming Rogers. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, this goes back to the whole chicken or

635
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Speaker 1: the egg argument about why it's silly for him to

636
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Speaker 1: say I don't have a contract in front him. It's

637
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: because you told you haven't told him if you're.

638
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: Playing yet, and you need to tell them kind of

639
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: what you're thinking number wise, right, Like I think that's.

640
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: They didn't want to legal tamper with themselves and find

641
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: their own situation that the Raiders and Ravens.

642
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: Are now in and they're not in that situation. But

643
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: is there something in the back of your head that

644
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: thinks he still burns them, that thinks that there's a

645
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: chance Rogers doesn't happen. I'm not sure where he's gonna go.

646
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he could burn them, retire to retire Maren,

647
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: but it doesn't seem like he's gonna rich. I don't

648
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: think he wants unless you buy that he just works

649
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: out to have sex with his wife.

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Speaker 1: That is still so funny to me. He forced that

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Speaker 1: wife thing in there real early, didn't he. Yeah, protests

652
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: too much exactly. I think that's where we are. The

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Speaker 1: first answer him, I'm less inclined to believe she's real

654
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: now than I was before. Me too, Pat McAfee, bounty

655
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: thing I can't get beyond because Aaron Rodgers is passive,

656
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: aggressive enough to do exactly what I suggest, like have

657
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Speaker 1: his wife who no one knows, submit photos of herself

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Speaker 1: claim the bounty.

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Speaker 2: Right, get the bounty then, I mean, Pat after his

660
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: five minute question, because he always asks five minute questions,

661
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: was asking.

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Speaker 4: Why you're working out?

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Speaker 2: If he could never ask the question that I just

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Speaker 2: asked on Twitter now wait too short after he set

665
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: it up though. The question that I could tell that

666
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: was in there was oh, you're working out, you're coming back.

667
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: That's basically what he was getting at, and it just

668
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: went right to well, my wife. I want her to

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Speaker 2: think that I'm I'm sorry I have a wife.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Aaron was going to say that answer

671
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 1: whenever it was posed. He was going to say, Hey,

672
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Speaker 1: anybody who's watching for some major announcement, log off right now,

673
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: because you're not going.

674
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: To get out of here. Yeah, he practiced that line

675
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: in the mirror before he came on. Oh for sure.

676
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: I think the wifeline too. He wanted to get the

677
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: wife in there. He it is so weird that we

678
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: don't see here, that we have no picture of her whatsoever.

679
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: He's one of the most in the public eye athletes

680
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: that we have and is dated three very in the

681
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: public famous a are always famous actresses, Danika Patrick, famous

682
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: athlete like It's it just makes no sense that there

683
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't be just like a quick like paparazzi like sasquatch

684
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: looking photo, you know what I mean, Like, Oh, it's fuzzy,

685
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: like is that Aaron Rodgers and his wife? They're speaking

686
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Speaker 2: of female athletes that are in the public eye. I

687
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm going to buy the fight. I

688
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: will watch any way. And the Gina Carano wants to

689
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: take part in with the Rowsey Corano fight, that's got

690
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: some juice right there. Did you know her dad was

691
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 2: a Pittsburgh maller. I did not know that. Lynn Carano,

692
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: she should still be in the Mandalorian. I mean, what

693
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: an absolute joke it was that they just dumped her

694
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: out of it. I mean, agree with her, I don't

695
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: agree with her. I'm not going to get into that

696
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: with it Trump right, That's what it was. It was

697
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: trumpy and this was back in Trump one. I think

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Speaker 2: the first term. No, it was in between was that

699
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Speaker 2: in between Evan Biden was in whatever. It's just so

700
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: stupid that they just nuked here from that show. She

701
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: was such a great part of that shows al right,

702
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Speaker 2: easy tim, And.

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Speaker 1: She did not have to be in a bulbafet costume. No,

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Speaker 1: they wanted to face.

705
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: There are some Star Wars dorks out there where it

706
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: would probably want that. Where the outfit that she wore yesterday,

707
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: where her fighting outfit where nothing at all but have

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00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: the Boba face helmet on number one because you're not

709
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: supposed to take the helmet off.

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Speaker 1: Number two. It triggers something in their head. Is that

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Speaker 1: fetish thing? This is like Boba fet freeze.

712
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Speaker 2: Boba fet fetishes with Gino Corano, I'm gonna name the

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Speaker 2: podcast that I think today. All right, we come back. Oh,

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00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: we got the trifecta. I like the trifecta. Can we

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Speaker 2: tell people what THEE is? We can? Yeah, let them know.

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00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: I want I'm sticking around in honor of Max Crosby

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Speaker 2: and what happened with the Raiders and Ravens. They've triffected today.

718
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Speaker 2: Biggest welches in the history of movies.

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Speaker 1: Welch moments, going back on agreements, going back on deals,

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Speaker 1: breaking the deal moments in movie history.

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Speaker 2: There's a there. We just got one Geea Carno got

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Speaker 2: thrown out of the life one. These are These are

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Speaker 1: Bethel Park. It's time for the Trifector. I thought the

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Speaker 1: Trifecta had music. Is there no musicsic for the Trifector?

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Speaker 2: Now? There should be though, there should be like some

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00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: epic music that's right, Like it should be like a

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Speaker 2: space odyssey like boom Bomb, Bomb Bomb, something like that.

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Speaker 1: The opening that's to Rick Flair for Mark's Taste of

742
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: the Mandalorian and just have a montage like Gina Coran scenes.

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Speaker 2: Woooo that weird kind of music. Yeah, I like that

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00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: all right. Well, today's Trifecta, since the Ravens and the

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Speaker 2: Raiders had just one of the most classic welches that

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00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: you've seen in reality. On a deal made, I came

747
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: up with some deals that were made in movies that

748
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: were renegged upon by certain characters. Number three, This is

749
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: kind of a personal cut for me. I love the

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00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: Ocean's trilogy, especially Ocean's eleven and Oceans thirteen twelve. It

751
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: was a little but eleven and thirteen are great. And

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00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: the deal made by Elliott Gold's character Rubin and al

753
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: Pacino's character, who is the main heel in Ocean's thirteen.

754
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: At the beginning of the movie, they're supposed to be

755
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: in cahots to build this casino together. He cuts Ruben

756
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: out of the deal. It's going to cost him millions

757
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: and millions of dollars. It puts them in kind of

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00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: like this coma. If you've seen Oceans thirteen, Well.

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Speaker 1: So what happened that having in Ocean's eleven? Dude didn't

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Speaker 1: it was Saul didn't sall like have a heart attack

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00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: at some point?

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Speaker 2: Or is that just part of the gimmick? Was that

763
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: part of the bit posed to just have the heart

764
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Speaker 2: He was having the heart attack as part of the

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Speaker 2: con and that he needed to Uh, he was fine

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00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: by the end of the movie. Yes, he was perfectly fine.

767
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: But in this one, that was kind of the reason

768
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: for the movie to happen was this deal that was

769
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: broken with Rubin. They didn't have a reason to go

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Speaker 2: after ap Pacino's character Ocean's Crew until that happened.

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Speaker 1: So is Ocean's eleven one of the few remakes that's

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Speaker 1: way better than the original.

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Speaker 2: So the point where I was surprised to learn later

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Speaker 2: in my life life that it was a remake, you know,

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00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: like I watched Oceans eleven.

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Speaker 1: For the original Oceans eleven was Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis,

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Speaker 1: Peter Lawford. I mean, like there's big names and Angie Dickinson,

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00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: but it says loaded as the.

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00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: Cast is for the new one with the Damon and

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Speaker 2: Pitt and Clooney and then the ancillary characters too, Elliot

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00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: Gold for God's sake, sweet. A big one was seeing

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Speaker 2: the original tweeterwe Con Scott Cohn Yeah, yeah, ye from

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Speaker 2: Varsity Blues. Okay, right, he's one of the twins. He

784
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: is fighting each other. Yes, they have the bickering with you,

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Speaker 2: Kasey Afflex the other one. Right, I can I forget Tweeter,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You just threw them by me there.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, that's number three, Number two. Vader and Lando

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Speaker 2: of course, Lando Calarisian has the deal. We'll take Han

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Speaker 2: solo and Leah capture to draw Luke out. In exchange,

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Speaker 2: you let me and us go free, and Cloud City

791
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: remains free. But you all know what happens when you

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00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: make a deal with the Empire, tim It just changes

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00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: over and over and as Lando famously said this, it

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00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: keeps getting worse by the minute. He was such a

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00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: good character. Lando Billy d was so perfectly cast. I

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00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: can never talk about Cloud City underrated by the way.

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00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: I always like to try to work some Star Wars

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00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: in when you're on the show. I'm just not allowed

799
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: to talk about. The locations and Empire were fantastic. It's

800
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: the best of the movies. The cloud was great, Hawth

801
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: was great. Oh my god. The machines that they introduced,

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00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: like the snow Speeders and the dinosaurs, Giant Walkers, yeah,

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00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: the Giant walk the ad ats, the big as, the Landwalkers,

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Speaker 2: the snow x wings that used to shoot the ropes

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Speaker 2: around the ad ASTs, like did you get that one

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00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: when you were a kid? The snow Speeders, and the

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00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: best that was the best toy from the Star the

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00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: Star Wars series. I used to have one of My

809
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: favorite Star Wars toys was it was a Millennium Falcon

810
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: and it shot little like like felt discs as out

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00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: of it, out of the front of it. It was

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00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: so cool just going around the house with that. Star

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Speaker 2: Wars had the best toys, man, I think I know

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Speaker 2: what The last one is Degoba too. What a great

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Speaker 2: set that was to an empire. When you bought the

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00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: dagobaset they had the quick sand and it was just fald.

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00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: You could fall in and could fall into it. It's

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00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: just a little piece of foam and he would stick

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Speaker 2: our too. And it was built so close to the

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Speaker 2: ground they were still just standing there all right. Number one,

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Speaker 2: I think I know what this is. It's gotta be

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Speaker 2: an inglorious bastard's. Oh that's not where I was going.

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Speaker 2: But that's great, Colonel Hobby. Yes, Carl hans Landa and

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Speaker 2: his deal with the American government, it's not without a

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00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: rain out of range. Just the one that Renegg's on

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Speaker 2: the deal on behalf of the US government. Uh. The

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Speaker 2: main Renegging is him shooting the just the assistant for

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Speaker 2: hans Landa. I made a deal for that man's life

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Speaker 2: and then he gets the Swasta. He gets the swastiakat

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Speaker 2: carved in his face, and it's just it's you make

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Speaker 2: that deal, Yovich, damn good deal. One of my favorite

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Speaker 2: movies of all time, and just such a flawless dismount

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Speaker 2: on the ending there, I mean, the last line is

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Speaker 2: pit staring into the camera going, what do you think, Ydovich?

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Speaker 2: This might be my masterpiece. And I've always wondered, as

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Speaker 2: that's Tarantino kind of talking to the audience himself, like

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Speaker 2: I might Absolutely, I might have.

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Speaker 1: Just hit a home run on this, Although there are

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Speaker 1: some days that I think True Romance is better. Although

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00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: he didn't direct that one, he wrote it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think to qualify as a terrant, it's got

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00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 2: to be the dual threat.

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00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't watch right, But you can't watch

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Speaker 1: True Romance and not think it's a Tarantino movie. It's

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Speaker 1: everything about, everything about it is a Tarantino movie. I

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Speaker 1: thought you were gonna go with the scene and Godfather Too,

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Speaker 1: where Frankie five angels flips in front of Congress.

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Speaker 2: In front of that's testifying and they didn't think he

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Speaker 2: was going to right right.

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Speaker 1: When they bring his brother in from Italy and he

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Speaker 1: comes to Sicily and he sits down next to him,

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00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: and he can't turn in front of his brother exactly.

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Speaker 2: He can't.

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00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: He can't rat in front of his brothers. So he

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00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: flips and he decides to go to jail and then

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00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: kill himself. Very happy ending.

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Speaker 2: That was a lot more after that, Frankie five, but

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Speaker 2: especially since he just got done talking about Duval. That

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00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: was Duval's famous an apology, senators apology. That's a good one,

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00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: but I think it glorious Bastards has to be the

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Speaker 2: number one. The shock on Hans Landa's face when he

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Speaker 2: shoots him, and you'll be shocked for this. Nah, I'll

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Speaker 2: just be chewed out. I've been chewed out before. Four

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Speaker 2: one two three three three wxdx or eight three three

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Speaker 2: four one two ninety nine thirty nine. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: we'll get a little bit more into the Cam Hayward contract,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about the Max Crosby saga, and certainly get

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Speaker 2: into the Penguins game from last night as well. This

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Speaker 2: is one of five ninety x