1 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Our three twin cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: one oh three five FM. Five hundred state autism providers, 3 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: only six have sought to comply with the new licensure requirements. 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: The barriers of entry were incredibly low. 5 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: The lowest tier of. 6 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: Providers officials testified qualifications to open an autism center not 7 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: that much over the age of eighteen. Maybe have a 8 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: fluency in another language besides English. 9 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: Maybe some online training. 10 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: No medical degree, no clinical license or former healthcare education 11 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: is required. Even though the services are delivered to children 12 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: with severe autism, and because the program was unlicensed and 13 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: not classified as high risk at the time, officials said 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: the state lacked the authority to even conduct to unannounced 15 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: inspections unless fraud was already suspected. It's like they designed 16 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: it this way on purpose, Like it was intentionally created 17 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: to be fraudulent. You know, why would you do that, 18 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: im unless you wanted to redistribute the wealth around them. 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: I know I'm being sarcastic. 20 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: So, the Department of Human Services Inspector General James Clark said, 21 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: the providers that do choose to be reevaluated, choose to 22 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: provide their ownership information, choose to provide documentation to show 23 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: they had the right credentials in place. There's licensed professionals 24 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: that need to be involved in each of those agencies now, 25 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: and like I said, just watch, the majority of these 26 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: hundreds of autism providers are just going to disappear. 27 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: They had no interest in being accredited, they had. 28 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: No interest in actually providing autisms services. 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: They just did it for the fraud. 30 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: In the Alpha News story, which I encourage you to 31 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: go and check out at alphanuws dot org, they break 32 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: down how often News went to various autism centers, like 33 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: one in Birdsville, a provider that build nearly two million 34 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: to the state in Medicaid reimbursements since October of twenty 35 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: twenty three, but despite the public funding, the neighboring business 36 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: owners said the facility appeared almost always empty. Weeks of 37 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: surveillance footage reviewed by Alpha News showed little activity during 38 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: the posted business hours, including after school hours and weekends, 39 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: and they have several different examples of that in the story. 40 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: So as we turn our attention back over to the 41 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: ICE operations and the Democrats moving the goalposts in terms 42 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: of their own expectations of what should be happening with 43 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: the draw down and the ending of Operation Metro Surge. 44 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: I want to share this with you. 45 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: We joked on the show you did comments from the 46 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Your talkback's brought to you by Lyndahl Realty 47 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: saying asking me the question, if you are out on 48 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: the streets taking time off of work to protest, to agitate, 49 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: obstruct ice, can you take advantage of the paid family 50 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: medical leave? Well, guess what we have the answer and 51 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: the answer is as you would suspect, yes you can. 52 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: Minnesota's paid Leaf program confirmed this week that ICE rioters 53 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: will be paid by the program. Democrats literally openly admitting 54 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: to paying rioters to riot. 55 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: One question I do have. We've had some federal agents 56 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: in the state recently. We've seen video, We've seen video, 57 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: we've seen we've seen statements and interviews. But we've seen 58 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: how there's been chemical communitions used on some folks that 59 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: have been out exercise in the first men of rights, 60 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: and we know that those cause harm and damage. So 61 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: my question to you, and you may not have the 62 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: answer to this right now, and it may be a 63 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: lag in it, but have you seen any of that 64 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: in terms of applications that are coming out those those 65 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: types of actions being the reason for folks needing to 66 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: access this program for sure. 67 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: Thank you, mister Karen, Thank you for the question, Representative Frasier. 68 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: And I'll maybe ask director or Flate just to provide 69 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: a couple couple brief details. But the short answer to 70 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 4: your question is yes, as as would any circumstance that 71 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: causes injury or harm to the public. 72 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: I think we have seen applications that. 73 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: Have been tied to some of the violence that we 74 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: saw in the as a result of Operation Metro. 75 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: Sir, okay, I just let me just stop it here 76 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: for just a second. 77 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: So if you got injured, and let's be clear, the 78 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: only people getting injured by ICE would be one individuals 79 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: who had lawful warrants of arrest the whole reason why 80 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Operation Metro Surge existed in the first place, or you 81 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: got in the way of ICE operations. If you don't 82 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: fall into one or two of those categories, there's no 83 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: reason why you would have been injured by ICE unless 84 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: you happen to be a bystanderd on the road when 85 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: an illegal alien attempts to go and evade arrest from 86 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: ICE and ends up crashing a vehicle and you somehow 87 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: were involved in that wreck. Otherwise you're not going to 88 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: be injured. So yeah, it is not a stretch to 89 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: say that paid family medical leave now is going to 90 00:05:49,880 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: reimburse the rioters in Minnesota, the obstructors, the insurrectionists for 91 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: going and pushing back and blocking lawful law enforcement. 92 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 6: And Mike, I hit the wrong button, only played the 93 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 6: clip against one question I do have. We've had some 94 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 6: federal agents in the state recently. We've seen video, We've 95 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 6: seen video, we've seen we've seen statements and interviews, but 96 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 6: we've seen how there's been chemical munitions used on some 97 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 6: folks that have been out exercise in the First Mint 98 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 6: of rights, and we know that those cause harm and damage. 99 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 5: So I'm my question to you. 100 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: Even the way he framed it, chemical munitions used against 101 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: them for just expressing their First Amendment rights. You have 102 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: a right for lawful assembly. You do not have a 103 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: right to riot to get in the way of law enforcement. 104 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: And I know you may not have the answer to 105 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 3: this right now, and it may be a lag in it, 106 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: but have you seen any of that in terms of 107 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: applications that are coming out those those types of actions 108 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: being a reason for folks needing to access this program 109 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: for sure. 110 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: Thank you, mister Charon, thank you for the question, Representative Frasier, 111 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: And I'll maybe ask a director in or Fleet just 112 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: to provide a couple a couple of brief details. But 113 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: the short answer to your question is yes, as as 114 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: would any circumstance that causes injury or harm to the public. 115 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: I think we have seen applications that have been tied 116 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: to some of the violence that we saw in the 117 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: twin as a result of Operation Metro Surge. I don't 118 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: you know, I think we as you would expect if 119 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: people have suffered serious injury. That is, it's not on 120 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: it's I guess, it's not unexpected, it's it's. 121 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 5: Certainly you know it's it's at. 122 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 7: But that is. 123 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: I think one benefit of having this program is that 124 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: people who have been seriously injured now have the ability 125 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: to receive, you know, take time to care. And I 126 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: don't know if there's any additional details you might provide. 127 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 7: So recovery from pepper spray is a reason to take 128 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 7: twelve weeks off to recover. 129 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Pretty much, or up to twenty depending on how bad 130 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: you say your injuries are. 131 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: I guess I. 132 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 8: Should clarify that John, they're being paid a paycheck to protest. 133 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 8: That was their paycheck for working in Minnesota. 134 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: It was the inevitability of this program. 135 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: And if you needed, if you needed an example of 136 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: how the paid Family Medical Leaf program is going to 137 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: be abused, I give you this story because if the 138 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: state is going to accept justification like what you just heard, 139 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: getting in the way of law enforcement, getting injured while 140 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: getting in the way of law enforcement, and you're going 141 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: to get paid time off for doing so, then you can. 142 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 2: Pretty much say that any. 143 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Excuse that you want to provide to the state of 144 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: Minnesota to take twenty paid weeks off will be accepted. 145 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: Minnesota Paid Family Leave program confirms ICE rioters will be 146 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: paid by the program, including ICE rioters who got violent 147 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: and injured working off the initial post where I found 148 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: this clip. During a committee hearing in St. Paul this week, 149 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: Democrats are literally openly admitting to paying rioters to riots. 150 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Now I've played the clip a couple of times, but 151 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: I have some really interesting talkbacks from the iHeartRadio app 152 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: that need to be addressed regard hearing this, and it 153 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: requires me to just get everybody back up to speed 154 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: over specifically what was asked and the answer that was 155 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: given by Minnesota state government officials during this hearing. 156 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 3: One question I do have. We've had some federal agents 157 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: in the state recently. We've seen video, We've seen video, 158 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: we've seen we've seen statements and interviews. But we've seen 159 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: how there's been chemical communitions used on some folks that 160 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: have been out exercise in the first memor rights, and 161 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: we know that those. 162 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 5: CAUs harm and damage. 163 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: So I'm my question to you, and I know you 164 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: may not have the answer to this right now, and 165 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: it may be a lag in it, but have you 166 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: seen any of that in terms of applications that are 167 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: coming out those those types of actions being the reason 168 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: for folks needing to access this. 169 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 5: Program for sure. 170 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: Thank you, mister Karen, Thank you for the question. Representative 171 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: Frasier and all baby ask director or Flate just to 172 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 4: provide a couple couple brief details, but the short answer 173 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: your question is yes, as as would any circumstance that 174 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: causes injury or harm. 175 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 5: To the public. 176 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: I think we have seen applications that have been tied 177 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: to some of the violence that we saw in the 178 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: twin as a result of Operation metro surge. I don't 179 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: you know, I think we as you would expect if 180 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: people have suffered serious injury. That is, it's not on 181 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 4: it's I guess it's not unexpected, it's it's certainly you 182 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: know it's it's at. 183 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 7: But that is. 184 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: I think one benefit of having this program is that 185 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: people who have been seriously injured now have the ability 186 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 4: to receive, you know, take time to care. 187 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 5: And I don't know if there's any additional details you. 188 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: Might provide now he said, people are already taking advantage 189 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: of this, Okay, I just want. 190 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: To establish that. 191 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: Fact based off of the testimony from the government official 192 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: who's there as part of the group cutting the checks 193 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: and proving individuals to take family medical leave. 194 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 9: The thing about PFL, though, is you can't just say 195 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 9: to your job, I got hurt protesting and they give 196 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 9: you a paid time off. You have to fill out 197 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 9: forms and you have to have a doctor's approval. So 198 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 9: whoever those people are that have been injured would have 199 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 9: to go to the doctor. They can't just be like, oh, 200 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 9: I don't feel good because I got Pepper's braid. 201 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: You sure about that, Jennifer, Because that official just said 202 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: that people were already taking advantage of it, and I 203 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: doubt that individuals have gone to the doctor and gotten 204 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: a note and established a baseline claim through official. 205 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Means like you mentioned. 206 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: You might be right, but when we were covering just 207 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: how little you needed in terms of any sort of 208 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: education relating to providing autism services for children, does anybody 209 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: really believe for a second that the state is going 210 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: to be denying individuals who don't end up with a 211 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: doctor's note for that. 212 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: I mean, he just said as much in the clip. 213 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 5: Good morning, John Ritcheer. 214 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: So anybody in the United States can claim that they 215 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: were there protesting and they were wearing a mask and 216 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: now wants compensation from the state of Minnesota. 217 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: Well, no, not anybody in the United States. 218 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: You would have to be a Minnesota state resident and 219 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: working here to take family medical leave off. 220 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 10: So Hi, John, this is dab up in Cass County. 221 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 10: But I think you're missing the part where it won't 222 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 10: be injuries from pepper spray or anything. 223 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: It'll be mental health. Sure injuries. I'm not missing that 224 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: at all. 225 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm going off of what they mentioned in the story, 226 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: But you're absolutely right. My point is, if they are 227 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: going to be paying out for something as ridiculous as 228 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: going out and getting involved in protesting. Then you can 229 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: pretty mu guarantee that whatever excuse you want to come 230 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: up with, you're going to be able to give what 231 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: we already knew. This is just the real world example 232 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: of what we all assumed and just how this program 233 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: is going to be completely wasted already out of money 234 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: from some of the reporting that we've seen. 235 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: Good morning. 236 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 11: This is k W from the Great City of Minneapolis. Hey, John, 237 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 11: listen to your comments about protesters getting the benefit of 238 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 11: Minnesota paid lea. Remember of Minnesota paid LEA is a 239 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 11: Minnesota state statue. It's the law of the state. So 240 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 11: you're trying to, I guess, make a point about wrongfully 241 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 11: getting benefits, right. 242 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 5: I think you're just you're out of step on this one, John, 243 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: You just out of step. Thanks. I have a great day. 244 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: kW. 245 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: What am I out of step on? You just laid 246 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: it out succinctly. You're right, that's the problem. It's a 247 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota state statute. They're taking money out of my paycheck. 248 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: My employer has to pay into it as well. I'm 249 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: not going to be taking this time off. I'm gonna 250 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: be losing You're going to be losing. Devin's going to 251 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: be losing hundreds of dollars every single year for a 252 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: program you probably will not take advantage of. 253 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: And you're right, we can't get out of it. It 254 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: is a statute. 255 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: And I am making a point about people wrongfully getting benefits. 256 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: I just gave you the example. 257 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Unless kW, you think that it's appropriate for individuals who 258 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,479 Speaker 1: went and got in the way of lawful law enforcement 259 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: and got themselves injured is a legitimate excuse to get 260 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: twenty paid weeks off from work. So I failed to 261 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: see how I am out of step in any way. 262 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, kW, and I respect you 263 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: because we can agree to disagree. I think if anybody 264 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: is out of step, you're the one out of step, 265 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: based solely off of your comments, Democrats keep moving the 266 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: posts on this regarding Operation Metro Surge. Looking at a 267 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: story here from Fox nine, Minnesota is down from four 268 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: thousand agents to four hundred and yet what do you 269 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: hear now from Angie Craig and others. We still have 270 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: ICE agents in the state. Nobody said that ICE agents 271 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: were leaving the state. We're still going to have officials 272 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: on the ground federal agents on the ground that are 273 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: stationed here permanently, but yet they keep moving the goalposts 274 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: regarding this issue. Alpha News has a fantastic story. This 275 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: was out last week. I won't have time to dive 276 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: into all of it now. ICE remains committed to the 277 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: mission in Minnesota after the surge, despite attacks. And what 278 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: Alpha News does is what other media outlets failed to do. 279 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: They actually talk with individuals from ICE to get their 280 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: view on what's been happening on the ground. To get 281 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: the full perspective of what has been taking place from 282 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: the individuals who've actually been on the streets having to 283 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: deal with agitators while also putting themselves in harms way 284 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: to go and arrest violent criminal illegal aliens. I'll share 285 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: with you some details of this coming up. We'll get 286 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: to your talk back of the day, and then we're 287 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: going to get back to the media spin and just 288 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: how bad the propaganda is. I have a couple of 289 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: different pieces here. One, an editorial writer in the Star Tribune, 290 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: goes all in on calling this the ice pandemic. COVID 291 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: was a thing that was universally hated, so ICE is 292 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: like COVID. Therefore, you must universally hate ice as well. 293 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: This is the logic that they're giving. 294 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: There's also a lengthy piece today how two small suburban 295 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: districts became the face of a school response to ICE. 296 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: And it is the best example that I have seen 297 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: in a long time of just the rampant bias in 298 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: the media and the way that they do. And I 299 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: know that I keep saying it, but it's absolutely true. 300 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: It is pure garbage propaganda. It is the left. It 301 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: is the Minnesota Star Tribune catering and carrying the water 302 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: for the DFL. A number by details and get to 303 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: your talkbacks as well, coming up on Twin Cities News 304 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: Talk Am eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. 305 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 12: I have to laugh at people like k W who 306 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 12: pretend like they're so centrist and down the middle and 307 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 12: they can't even comprehend the PFL and the fraud that's 308 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 12: going to take place with these people. If they can't 309 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 12: even comprehend them in their little I think liberals range 310 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 12: are just different. There's some synapses not connecting for something 311 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 12: that's sure yet, but could try kW. 312 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: There's a mentality among the lefts that people are inherently good. 313 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: And they're not. 314 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: See, when you have that mentality, then you can pray 315 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: upon the good graces of individuals and you can move 316 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: forward with all kinds of different plans under the expectation 317 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: that the majority of people aren't going to go and 318 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: do something wrong with what it is that you're providing. 319 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: And it's just not true. 320 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: Whether or not you believe in the Lord God Almighty 321 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: and the Bible of which I do, we all sin 322 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: and fall short of the glory of God. But even 323 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: if you don't agree with that, people aren't inherently good. 324 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: But this is what the Democrats do. This is the 325 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: game that they play. 326 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 12: Now. 327 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: I want to give kW the opportunity here on Twin 328 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: Cities News Talk because he did go and leave a comment. 329 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: He wants to explain how he felt that saying that 330 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: I was out of step. So let's hear what Kw's 331 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: response is to this, because I feel like it's fair. 332 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 11: Jay John's kW again, are you're out of step because 333 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 11: it's a state statue and there's a rigorous application process. 334 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 5: And you just can't do it in a day or two. 335 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 11: Maybe what they're talking about is Minnesota a safe and 336 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 11: sick time where they can use their sick time for that. 337 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: But okay, let me, let me just He goes on 338 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: to make the statement again, there's a rigorous process. kW Okay, 339 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: we already have evidence because state officials have already said 340 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: that they have already identified people who have been trying 341 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: to do fraud since the program started on January first. 342 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: People have already committed acts of fraud with this program. 343 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: So when all is and done, we can revisit this 344 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: and we'll see how rigorous this process is. But I'm 345 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: here to tell you right now, when it comes to 346 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: this argument, I'm going. 347 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: To win because I guarantee you there's going to. 348 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: Be a story in the future that will lay out 349 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: the millions, if not more in dollars that were spent 350 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: on individuals who lied on their application. And do you 351 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: really think for a second that doctors right now are 352 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: not going to provide notes to individuals who say that 353 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: they were injured by chemical irritants, Because again, if that's 354 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: the case, then all an individual has to do is 355 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: go to the doctor and say I was subjected to 356 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: tear gas. 357 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 2: Doesn't have to provide a rationale. Why the doctor's not. 358 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: There to judge what action caused their injury. He's just 359 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: there to verify that they were injured. So the doctors 360 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: can sign off on whatever they want to sign off on. 361 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't justify the actions that brought about that injury 362 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: in the first place. So again I repeat, I'm not 363 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: the one out of step here. I'm the one talking 364 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: about the truth. You're the one with the Pollyanna glasses 365 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: on thinking that people aren't going to take advantage of 366 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: this program when the government under Tim Walls in Minnesota 367 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: has already said that people have. 368 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 13: Hey, John, don't forget when they're having their testimony how 369 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 13: people were saying that the small businesses that were losing 370 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 13: money because ICE was in town was as bad as COVID. 371 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 13: What they're doing is ridiculous. And these people, if they 372 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 13: lost money because they were closed or whatever, they deserve it, 373 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 13: if they would cooperate with ICE, I'm sure everything would 374 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 13: be fine. 375 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: Minnesota's lost more than one hundred million during Operation Metro Search. 376 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: So who made up these numbers? Because that's what they are. 377 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: So Twin cities workers, according to this report from Caraleven, 378 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: lost one hundred and six million while federal agents conducted 379 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Operation Metro SARCH. This is a new study by the 380 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: North Star Policy Action and the we Upjohn Institute for 381 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: Employment Research. 382 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: Okay, you're fascinating to talk to. 383 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: The study looked at the impact of employees and the 384 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: Twin Cities metro from January third to February seventeenth, sharing 385 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: the results on Wednesday, stating the number of employees working 386 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: in the area declined by two point eight percent and 387 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: the number operating businesses of business locations fell by one 388 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: point seven percent. Employees also reported working fewer hours. That 389 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: number dropped by one point nine percent. And to your point, 390 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: what we're seeing is similar to the pandemic, when we 391 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: saw fewer people working, fewer people shopping, creating a ripple 392 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: effect across the entire economy. This is according to doctor 393 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Rosenthal, the research director at the North Star Policy Action. 394 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: The difference is that we can't expect the federal government 395 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: to step in and help businesses recover because federal action 396 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: is what caused this disruption. It's a straight up lie. 397 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: And if those numbers are accurate, given the number of 398 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: people working declining by two point eight percent, to operating 399 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: businesses falling by one point seven percent, employees working fewer 400 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: hours dropping by one point nine percent, that is all 401 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: self inflicted. They did this to themselves. I have a 402 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: story here, another one from Alphnows. Minnesota State Patrol two 403 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: weeks ago quietly limited the ability in the middle of 404 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: operation of its troopers to contact US Immigrations and Customs 405 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: enforcement during traffic stops involving illegal immigrants, according to multiple sources. 406 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: To Alpha News, basically, Minnesota State Patrol admitted that they 407 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: were handcuffed and limited in their ice operation. Again, it 408 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: just points to the state under Governor Tim Walls, Democrats 409 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: went out of their way to create the dynamics that 410 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: played out on the streets of Minneapolis, giving the advantage 411 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: to the agitators that can now go and take advantage 412 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 1: of it via tax payer dollars through these programs that 413 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: they created that were never necessary in the first place. 414 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: All right, a late addition to the talkbacks this morning, 415 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: but it is your talk back of the day since 416 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: we're on topic and they're on topic as well. 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Keep in mind, these are 427 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 14: probably the same doctors that said take the shot, take 428 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 14: the boosters. Hey, do you have guns in your house? 429 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 14: Those are uh, those are bad. Those are what killed 430 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 14: most kids in the world. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, 431 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 14: most doctors. Yeah, they're not gonna care. 432 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: Yep, you're exactly right, and thank you for the talk 433 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: back this morning. Your talkbacks are brought to you by 434 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: Mini Leaf and mini leaf dot com. Head on over 435 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: m I N N E L e a f dot com. 436 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: Let's get back into some of the propaganda. One of 437 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: the things I really do enjoy doing is going into 438 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: these stories, whether it's the Star Tribune, whether it's the 439 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: Minnesota Reformer, and to see whether or not the head 440 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: line actually relates to what it is that's in the story. 441 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: Because this is where people get their information. This is 442 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: where people on the left go and receive the information 443 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: to make these decisions. I know people will leave comments 444 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: saying that nobody reads the Star Tribune, but it's not true. 445 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: A lot of people do, and mostly Democrats. So where 446 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: are they getting in their information from? Where do those 447 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: low information voters get the little bit of info. It's 448 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: from stories like this and I'm about to share with you, 449 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: and whether or not the headline actually matches the details 450 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: of the story. As a way into this topic, let's 451 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: go here to the ihearta radio app and play this comment. 452 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: Sorry if this is a bit off topic. 453 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 15: So I went to my son's school conferences in the 454 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 15: Robinsdale area yesterday and seriously, every other locker it was 455 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 15: clear that some kid had written something on a piece 456 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 15: of paper that had some anti ICE message on it 457 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 15: or some anti TRUP message on it and was directed 458 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 15: to post it on their lockers. So there's just anti 459 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 15: ICE stuff everywhere around the school. 460 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: To that point, article today in the Minnesota Star Tribune 461 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: how two small suburban districts became the face of the 462 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: school response to Ice. Immigration's enforcement has had an outsize 463 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: impact on two Twin City area school districts, propelling superintendents 464 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: of Columbia Heights and Friendley into the national spotlight. 465 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: Let me tell you what's really happened here. 466 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: Now, these are two schools that simply decided to do 467 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: the equivalent of what the people taking to the streets 468 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: to protest ICE did. They just decided to go and 469 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: use their positions within the schools. 470 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: And there is a connection here, we'll get to it. 471 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: But they just decided to use their positions within the 472 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: school to do their own protesting. Instead of going out 473 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: on the street getting in the way of ice, blowing 474 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: their whistles, throwing their adult toys made of rubber. They 475 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: use their positions as superintendents to spread anti ICE rhetoric 476 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: and propaganda. Some of the sharpest pushback against the tactics 477 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: in the recent immigration enforcement surge in Minnesota, reading from 478 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: the article, have come from two surprising voices, the leaders 479 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: of a small neighboring suburban school districts that rarely make 480 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: headlines in the North metro friendly in Columbia Heights. Superintendents 481 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: Brenda Lewis and Zena Stenvik lead districts that each span 482 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: less than six square miles and fewer than thirty five 483 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: hundred students, but their diverse schools, I've experienced an outsized 484 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: impact during Operation Metro Surge with a detention of several 485 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: students and dozens of parents. Okay, so that's your baseline here, right, 486 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: this is what I went in here to find out. 487 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: Let's see what evidence they provide. So the claim is 488 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: these two schools experienced an outsized impact from ice operations 489 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: and the detention of several students and dozens of parents. 490 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: All right, so here we go. As a result, the 491 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: two school. 492 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: Leaders were among the first educators in Minnesota to oppose 493 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: the immigration crackdown. They've been flooded with media requests from 494 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: across the world in the past two months, with Stenvick 495 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: giving multiple interviews about five year old Liam Kanejo Ramos. 496 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: This is bunny hat boy, whose detainment drew widespread condemnation. 497 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: First off, the media requests are irrelevant. I got media 498 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: requests from around the world as well, So okay, to 499 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: the point of the article, it's irrelevant. Now here's your 500 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: first example though. Remember they said the tension of several 501 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: students and dozens of parents. So the first one you 502 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: get is the debunk story of the bunny hat boy 503 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: left behind by his. 504 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: Father who was evading arrest from ice. 505 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: And a lie that continues to be spread by Democrats 506 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: and in this article. 507 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: But they don't even get into the details of this 508 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: in the article. 509 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: They just all accept that the majority of ignorant individuals 510 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: on the left are going to accept that version, the 511 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: Democrat version of the bunny hat boy. 512 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: On Tuesday, Lewis flew to Washington, d C. 513 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: Attended the counter rally to President Donald Trump in the 514 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: State of the Union speech as a guest of US 515 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: Senator Tina Smith. I guess the school district doesn't need 516 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: the superintendent that much since they took time off to 517 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: go to DC. I wonder if they'll apply for a 518 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: pay family medical leave for that trip. The superintendents are 519 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: trying to turn that attention into long term support to 520 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: address learning loss, the rising mental health needs, and the 521 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: potential financial hit from enrollment declines. Again, it's all COVID 522 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: two point zero inside Liam's classroom, so we're still on Liam. 523 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: This is the only example they've given so far. Again, 524 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: outsized impact because of ice, detention of several students and 525 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: dozens of parents, and so far we're still only hearing 526 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: about Liam. 527 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: In this article Inside Liam's Classroom. 528 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: On January twenty first, flanked by his teacher and principal Stenvick. 529 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: The superintendent led her first ever news conference. Behind her, 530 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: a screen displayed what became an iconic image, Liam in 531 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: a blue bunny hat and Spider Man backpack. Then you 532 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: get to this in addition to the experiences of six 533 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: other Columbia Hed students who are detained. So your next 534 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: question is going to be, well, do they give you 535 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: any details of the six students? Spoiler alert, They don't. 536 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: That's the only line about those six students. They don't 537 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: say who they were, they don't say why they were detained, 538 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: they don't give their age, nothing, Just six other Columbia 539 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: High students who were detained. My guess is they were 540 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: probably with family members who are here illegally that were 541 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: on the list to be arrested and detained by ICE 542 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: because ICE had the lawful authority to do just that. 543 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: But again, I'm just speculating because the article didn't bother 544 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: to give the details. Then we're back to the bunny 545 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: hat boy. At one point, after Liam's bunny hat photo 546 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: went viral, community members say they saw one hundred ICE 547 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: agents in the city of just three square miles. And 548 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: I made this comment the other day, but this whole 549 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: they make another comment reference to this, but this whole 550 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: seeing ice agents. 551 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 7: So what. 552 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: If it's indeed true. 553 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: Did they go talk to the ice agents, did they 554 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: interview them, how did they know or are they just 555 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: making an assumption because they're driving SUVs And let's just 556 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: say for the sake of argument, that it was happening. 557 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: When you get into the piece, it says Lewis decided 558 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: early in Operation Metro Surge that the public needed to 559 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: know all the ways it was affecting schools. Oh and, 560 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: by the way, the other superintendent, actually this is another government, 561 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: this is another school official ended up attending the State 562 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: of the Union as a guest of Representative ill haan Omar. 563 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: So the Fridley schools, the superintendent Lewis decided that the 564 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: public needed to know the ways that Operation Metro Surge 565 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: was affecting the schools. Okay, so we're back to again 566 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: the whole premise of the article. How these two schools 567 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: were outsized in terms of the impact of Operation Metro 568 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: Surge and the detention of several students and dozens of parents. 569 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: So the example that Lewis gave regarding how the school 570 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: was impacted she started documenting the many times that Ice 571 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: eight ICE vehicles were on or near school property, and 572 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: talked publicly each time she or her staff saw members 573 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: or staff members saw ICE vehicles outside their homes or 574 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: tailing them to and from school. She believes that some 575 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: of those actions were in retaliation after she spoke out. 576 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: In one instance, she says, a group of men in 577 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: a vehicle with out of state plates repeatedly drove by 578 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: an elementary school and circled a nearby roundabout while men 579 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: inside taunted school staff and claimed that they were members 580 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: of the press. Is there any footage of those men 581 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: taunting school staff? What is your definition of taunting? If 582 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: that indeed happened, we'll just take it on his face. 583 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: You would think that if that is such a horrible 584 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: thing that happened, that you would have have a bunch 585 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: of details when they arrived, what they looked like, what 586 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: they were wearing, what they said. 587 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: Nothing. That's all you. 588 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: Get out of state plates of automobiles driving past the school, 589 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: circling around about, and allegedly men taunting school staff with 590 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: no details whatsoever. It's kind of like those six students 591 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: they said were detained in Columbia heights, but they don't 592 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: give any further details on that either. This is about 593 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: a four page article that I've trimmed down. Both districts, 594 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: they say, are slowly welcoming back students. Neither is pressuring 595 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: fearful kids to return. Staff continued to collect and distribute 596 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: groceries and rental assistance. 597 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: Online learning is being offered. 598 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: One of the school's hallways is decorated with a long 599 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: paper chain of hearts with notes from students. I want 600 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,479 Speaker 1: Liam to know he is so strong, read one. Another said, 601 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: I hope the world can be a better place. So 602 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: we're back to Liam again. I'm at the end of 603 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: the piece. 604 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 2: Now. 605 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: All the other details in this story are completely irrelevant 606 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: to the whole core of the story. No other details 607 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: regarding the arrest of anybody else, no details regarding the 608 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: arrest of the parents, no details regarding the arrests of 609 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: those six other students. 610 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 2: And it ends on this. 611 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 1: I think Sharam's sharing Liam's story was the catalyst, said 612 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: one school official, Principal Jason Kleman. 613 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 2: It's set up a stage for us to speak from. 614 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 2: Oh it did. 615 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: You've taken full advantage of that. Never let a crisis 616 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: go to waste a false narrative about Buddy hat Boy, 617 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: and it did. It absolutely set up a stage for 618 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: them to go and essentially just protest Donald Trump. 619 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 2: That's all this comes down to. 620 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: Now, It's all about our families and our staff who 621 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: came together to show up in ways that are just 622 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: not long term sustainable without help. There's nothing this is 623 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: and I know I sound redundant, but nothing but bogus propaganda. 624 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: Bunny hat Boy, allegations of federal law enforcement vehicles going 625 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: in circles, in roundabouts, maybe following people home, but they 626 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: didn't have any contact with them. So are these individuals 627 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: just upset when they drive on the roadway on a 628 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: daily basis and there's a car around them in any way, 629 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: shape or form, there's a vehicle near me. 630 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: Have they be following me home? 631 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 5: Are they just all. 632 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: Conducting themselves in a completely terrified state? Three pages of 633 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: reckless fear mongering, And again I go back to the beginning. 634 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: How two small suburban school districts became the face of 635 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: school response to ice, Well, they did through completely concocted 636 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: and nonsense fear mongering. But this is the garbage that 637 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: people read. This is why you have voters that sound 638 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: like this. When questioned after Trump State of the Union speech, 639 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: I think you. 640 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 2: Said at one point this thing is a joke. You 641 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,479 Speaker 2: said to me, this is a joke. 642 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 5: What made you feel that way? 643 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 16: Just the pure unseriousness, just making up jokes. I've been 644 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 16: The jokes for me were like just saying, oh, yeah, 645 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 16: America's winning, but like, where are we winning? People here 646 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 16: have been murdered, Representatives have been murdered, like people protesting 647 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 16: at ice protests have been arrested. That's free speech right there. 648 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 16: Constitution rights have been revoked. If anything, we're burning. I 649 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 16: don't see anything thriving. I don't see anything good about it. 650 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 16: And he's just over here acting as if like he's 651 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 16: I mean, he is a president. 652 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but at some point it. 653 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 12: Will catch up to you. 654 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 16: You're not above the laws, so it will end up 655 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 16: getting up to him. 656 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: She sounded like every single ignorant foe of the show. 657 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: Leaving their comments on the iHeartRadio app, of which tomorrow 658 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: will take your on and off topic comments All morning Long, 659 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: Freedom Friday, Max Reimer, Ak Kamara, Catherine Johnson from American 660 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: Experiment all in studio. That's some fun items that we 661 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: can talk about covering the news of the week as well, 662 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: plus your comments all morning long. If you've missed any 663 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: portion of today's show, check out the podcast, available up 664 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: on the iHeart Radio app. Have yourself a fantastic Thursday, 665 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you guys tomorrow morning just after 666 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: six am. 667 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 5: Ah