WEBVTT - 4-9-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.800 Don't want to be an American. 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:06.240 Thursday Maritis short day. We've got Reds baseball here on 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:10.119 seven hundred WWS eleven o'clock inside pitch and try and 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.479 take three or four from the Marlins for getting back home. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.760 That's the fun part. This is the sickening part for 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:18.520 you of the news cycle. So this guy in Ohio 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.040 man just became the first person in America to be 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:25.319 convicted of our new federal AI deep fake porn law. 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:30.920 But Ohio itself has no law concerning AI child pornography. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.440 That's not a state crime. So how's that possible? In 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.120 light of this case? And by the way, we have 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.600 not one, but two brand new cases involving deep fake 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:42.720 AI porn for underage people in both Evandelle and Mason. 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.879 Joining the show from Ohioans for Child Protection is Rebecca Scherendorf. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.000 Good morning, Rebecca. How you been oh doing good? 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:51.280 Thanks for drawing attention to that. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.040 Well, I'm not drawing attention to it. I think the 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.720 news cycle is because we've had three big cases this week. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.040 I mentioned we'll get to the We'll get to the 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.800 charges against this guy from Hilliard, Ohio. James Strellier is 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.760 his Estraller is his name from up in Columbus, and 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.080 it's pretty disturbing when you look at the details of 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:10.759 the case him. But we have a seven year old 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.200 Mason who's in a Warren County Juvenile court fifty plus 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.279 family charges for pandering sexual ordered material involving a minor 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.640 a two year about a year long investigation. I should 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:24.240 say it involves AI generated explicit images where in this 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.720 case a girl's face was put on a fake body 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.800 to make her look naked and rain Phoenix Brown out 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.640 of Evandale in Hamlin County's twenty four year old three 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.679 charges of pandering involving a minor, pandering sexual oriented material 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.800 involving a minor, and in illegal use of minor and 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.440 nudity ordered material. Same thing here and I mentioned the 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:46.320 big case is James Darud the second from Columbus installed 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.120 twenty four over twenty four AI platforms in over one 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.400 hundred web based AI models on his phone and use 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.320 that to harass at least six adult women for a 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.480 period of about a year or two and created porn 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.720 depicting vic and sex acts with her own father and 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.760 then distributed to her coworkers. And they found literally hundreds 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:09.320 of images in another thousand or so a couple thousand 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.600 on his phone, and he is the first person in 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.440 the US convicted or to take it down. Act. I 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.240 know that's a lot to throw at you this morning, 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.119 but we have two local stories god knows how many more, 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.400 and of course this case here in Ohio of James Strauder. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:28.000 The second forty five states have laws criminalizing AI generator 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:32.600 computed editor edited. It's called c SAM, is what they 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.600 what it's called. And maybe you can explain that terminology 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.320 and kind of set it up for us here before 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:39.840 we get to talking about what's really going on. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.960 Yeah, so there's a few things. First of all, Ohio, 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:49.920 we do have the child chornography in statute, and the 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.480 nation's been shifting to child sex abuse material. That's the 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.480 sea SAM term, and that's just to recenter the fact 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.919 that a child is abused when there is pornography made 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.720 of a child, and that this is part of the 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:08.080 abuse and the revictimization. So just as people hear this 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.520 and see it in the news and whatnot, it doesn't 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:14.120 quite align with our terminology here in Ohio, but for 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.000 the nation's shifting that way because this is not a 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:21.640 victimist crime by any stretch of the imagination. And while 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:28.040 those are three high profile cases happening both in our community, 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:33.240 within our states and whatnot, I think this is just 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:38.160 a drop in the bucket. Basically, studies are indicating the 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:42.120 child online exploitations is currently sitting in about one in 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.520 six kids are being exploited online. That can take many forms, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:52.160 such as being sex storted into producing sexual images of themselves. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:58.200 They can be getting paid to produce material, which sadly, 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:03.280 children that are risks are all the higher targets for 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:06.960 this kind of exploitation, and once there are images of 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:11.160 them generated, this in turn could lead to escalating behavior 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.440 like I've heard of pathways where a child was first 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.600 just paid to take a picture of their feet and 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.960 share it, which would seem very harmless to a child 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.880 to share a picture of their feet right, and before 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:30.640 you know it is escalated into having to conduct violent 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.160 sets backs against the peer and record it and share 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.839 it with the offender. And this is another layer in 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:43.239 it is that the online exploitation can then spread into 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:49.360 the minor exploiting their peers and those around them getting 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:54.640 exploited as well. And as though high winds for child protection. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:59.760 We're concerned that our Statehouse is not keeping pace. We 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:04.520 have lawmakers like Senator Blessing and Senator Johnson, which has 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:10.279 introduced SB one sixty three to address a C STAMPS 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.640 in our state. But there's probably another dozen plus bills 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.839 that need to be passed in Columbus right now, and 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.360 then we need a broad look at our policies and 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.280 ask ourselves is this really keeping case? 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.360 Because the CDC. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.000 Is estimating that about one in four girls are being 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:33.000 sexually abused by AJ eighteen and the boys fall somewhere 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.920 between the one in six to one in ten mark 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.520 most likely closer to one in six if you consider 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.320 the harm from online exploitation, which can be very real. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.400 I mean we see these committee suicide. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.360 Yeah. I think we had a case in I want 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.400 to say in Lawrenceburg, maybe not too long ago, same 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.440 thing happened there. There was an exploitation thing. And the 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.919 sick part about it is you look at this James Stralo, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:00.080 the second first guy convicted thirty seven years old. The 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:04.080 charges by the way, cyberstalking, producing obsteam, visual representations of 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.920 child sexual abuse, and publication of digital forgeries. He had 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.960 all these AI platforms installed on his phone and created 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.880 porn depicting a victim and sex acts with her own father, 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.760 and then sent it to her co workers. And of 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.240 course it was just you know, her face, but it 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.240 was AI generated on top of a naked body. Image 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.880 of a naked body. And he posted AI generated images 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.560 of children using faces of boys from his community. And 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.280 they found seven over seven hundred images on a child 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.200 sexual blush website, another twenty four hundred roughly on his phone. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.640 So this is the first person you was convicted under 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.640 the Take It Down Act. So talk about the dispairy 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.039 walk the listeners through with the gap in Ohio versus 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:46.200 the federal law right now. 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:51.719 So right now, SC one sixty three does a few 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.520 things that we don't have in federal law. First of all, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.600 one of the sections requires a watermark on AI generated 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.680 material that indicates that it was AI generated. I think 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:09.840 this could be useful because if the technology companies have 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:14.000 to provide the water mark and it's there, at least 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.200 if you have in the faeria factor using the tool 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.520 incorrectly and illegally, there is that chance at least that 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.800 the watermark is still going to stay on it as 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.040 long as they don't remove it, which is a separate crime, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.320 the removing of the water mark. And so this will 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.000 actually be protecting people on multiple levels because if you 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.840 think of the Columbus Areya a case, I mean we 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.880 have adult women, adult men because that father is just 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.640 as much a victim in this, and we also even 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.160 have young boys that were targeted by this man. So 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.480 we have a wide range of people that are being 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.920 targeted with this AI pornography and also the deep bikes, 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:58.160 because there are other things beyond sexual exploitation that could 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:02.680 still be very problematic to be detecting people doing. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.240 And can result in loss of jobs. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.560 There have been cases where AI has been used to 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:14.640 have someone say some really offensive things in which their 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.200 job was on the line. I believe it was a 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.520 school principle that was targeted in the case that was 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.280 highlight I did by Attorney General Gates in his committee 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:28.720 testimony on SBS one sixty three, and then also our bill, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.600 the bill that Center of Blessing Johnson brought. It gives 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.760 a civil course of action to victims, and I think 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:40.720 it is so very important that first of all, victims 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.320 should have access to civil court. They're there for a reason. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.120 It is a valid part of our justice system. But 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:52.520 also it creates an incentive for the tech companies and 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:57.439 for the individuals not to engage in that that they 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.400 too can face three percussions. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.440 Yeah, I wonder, I wonder, I wonder how, I wonder how, Yeah, 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.760 I wonder how hard it is for them to stop creating? 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.400 You know, it's I would no one listening right now 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:16.760 other than maybe one person possibly understand how AI works, right, 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.840 and how you're able to simply turn that that that 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.959 element off. By the way, so Rebecca Scherndorff, she's on 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.520 the show with the Ohioans for Child Protection. She was 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.440 critical during the clergy abuse cases, and now we're talking 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.560 about something called Sea SAM. It's called child sexual abuse material. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.600 You heard the name James Strall of the second out 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.600 of Columbus, just a horrific criminal here involving AI generated 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.720 images used on women and some children. And now two 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.000 cases one in Mason one and Evendale where you have 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:47.040 younger people that are using AI to generate naked images 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.080 of people or they take their face and their likeness 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.120 and put it on essentially an AI generated nude body 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.200 and then disseminating it to other students. In the case 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.240 of stroller, he was doing it with women that that 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.840 he knew and was doing in the workplace. A different story. 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.120 But on those two things, amazing case I said involves this. 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.800 I believe seventeen year old I said, facing fifty plus 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:10.199 colomny charges. The court didn't mention AI specifically there, and 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.920 that's an element of it. And the stroller case is 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.840 children and women. So when you look at it, is 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.800 AI generated SEESAM, which by the way, is child sexual 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.280 abuse material. Hear that term a lot se SAM. It's 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:26.160 crossing all demographic lines right now. And does the law 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:30.160 dictate that it's specifically about children or its include adults 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:30.920 for everyone. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.320 This actually is offering protection to everyone, and it goes 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.880 a step further to also protect you from someone feeling 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:40.599 your identity using. 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.720 AI gotcha, which which is. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:47.000 The impacts seniors and financial crimes. So I think the 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:51.200 senators try to make a well rounded bill here, and 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.319 it should sit in state. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:53.959 Law as well. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:59.280 We shouldn't leave room for criminals to be able to 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.560 exploit people on our state because we don't have as 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.599 robuts of laws as the other forty five states in 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:06.199 the country. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.840 Yeah, this is an interesting angle from a I guess 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.800 the First Amendment standpoint, because this is going to be 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.160 things like this are going to be challenged, and that's 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:15.559 the way the law works. You know, you don't have 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.840 to agree with going, well, we should be protecting children 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.320 and innocent people from this nonsense. However, the Constitution talks 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.320 about First Amendment. What dictates in the first Amendment. So 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.160 I'm looking at the case right now out of Sturgis 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.920 and this guy, I think Sturgis, Wisconsin. I want to 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:34.319 say that the age there is upholding a federal or 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.960 a statute to state statute that band's possession of child 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:41.360 sex dolls and computer generated sexual material and includes identifiable features, 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.200 and so the sex doll that looks like a child, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.320 it's kind of disturbing. They want to continue to enforce that. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:52.240 There are critics out there that argue purely AI generated images, 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.600 ones that don't use a real child's face, unlike the 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.840 ones we're talking about here, are victimless and protected expression. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.560 What's your response to that argument? We're talking about AI 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.800 general image is not of real people in their face, 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.520 but rather just AI generated bodies, naked bodies, and in 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.160 this case of children. What do you make of that. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.160 Well, I think if we look at this in the 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:16.520 larger contexts that RAIN estimates that sexual violent crimes, the 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:22.000 actual individuals only have about a two percent convictionary. And 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.560 part of the problem is the delayed disclosure which Ohio 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.080 has an old statue limitations while in the book that 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.400 isn't updated to reflect the rest of the country on this. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.360 But take that load conviction ary and then look at 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.520 what other stakes have done. They have found the individuals 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:44.959 that buy these child sextuals are actually most likely offenders. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.000 And it's a much easier case to make that you 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:53.040 have purchased something like this which is clearly for use 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:57.240 for sexualizing a child and also can be used in 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.079 a grooming process if you think about it, but is 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.280 most certainly not a normal purchest and is it the 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.439 red flag behavior? And so some states have gone the 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:11.640 route of criminalizing those kinds of devices, such as child 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:18.080 sex dolls, in order to identify more child exploiters. As 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:24.880 a free speech we have a long history of regulating 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.000 things that you say and material that you can produce 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:33.040 when it causes harm to others, and when you have 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.360 tens of millions of images that do not depict an 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:42.360 actual person, but is still sexualizing children. You are moving 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:48.400 a certain group of people along a tangent of exploitative 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.560 thoughts about minors, and they may start acting on them. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.400 An example of this, as there has been an uptick 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:01.600 in strangulation content in regular pornn there has been a 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:09.120 corresponding uptick of strangulation on our college campuses. Now, strangulation 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:14.200 is a felony, and you can survive a strangulation and 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.079 still die later because this is actually cutting off the 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.520 blood to your brain when you're strangled. This is more 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.880 involved than you know, like holding your breath. Right, This 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.080 isn't just oxygen that we're talking about, and a person 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.680 that's been strangled is actually at risk of strokes even 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:37.560 six months later posts surviving the strangulation. But you have 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:42.760 young people that see this material and it's been normalized 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:47.040 as a kink, even though it is deeply harmful and 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:51.360 a pelony, right, And I think that's just an example 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.120 of where you see a performance of something that's harmful 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:59.400 sexually seeping out into the real world and harming real people. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.120 It's going to be an interesting challenge because, as you 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.680 said that, I don't disagree with you because it's horrific 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.920 what we're talking about here, Rebecca. But he said, you know, 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.080 they watch AI generated images which aren't real things. I 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.880 mean it's like it's like a cartoon. Essentially. It looks 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.120 a real life, but it's it's not real in real life, 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.520 if that makes sense, And they might act on that, 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.440 see that, And that's a slippery slope, I think from 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.400 a constitution perspective, and I think you'd agree with me. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.200 Is like, Okay, well I have a gun and I 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.040 might shoot someone in to metal homicide. I may, I 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.880 may not. That's a slippery slope right there that they 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.760 you know under the law, I guess under I know 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.960 if it's habeas corpus or not. But essentially it's like, okay, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.680 in this case, when we're talking about real people, there 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.760 are real victims there, whereas with AI generated image there 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:44.720 is no victim. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.960 Well, and I think this is going to depend on 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.960 the details. And this is why we import and judges, 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.520 because our lawmakers put the words on paper, and then 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.520 our prosecutors have discretion from there, and then we still 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:03.000 have our grand jury in place even before charges are brought, 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.120 and then it goes before a judge and a jury, right, 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:11.040 and those processes are in place. Actually, they had a 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.320 whole other layer to our law. There's what's written in statute, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.760 and then there's the case law that occurs after the 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.080 writing of a statue, and so you can have aspects 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:24.280 of it that are tossed out when there are valid 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.600 concerns regarding free speech. But at the same time it's 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.360 soll legal for you. And i's goes, you know, to 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.320 the stereotypical theater and shoutfire, and we make it into 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:40.840 a situation where someone claims, well, that wasn't actually this individual, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:46.240 but because they altered their image just enough, right, sure, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.160 and because there's also problems with real child sex abuse 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:55.080 material then being altered by AI to make it look 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.720 safe in order to claim then that it's okay. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.240 Yeah, I think people like the Straller guys should be 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.320 buried underneath the jail, quite honestly, and anyone doing this 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.280 stuff to exploit people, it's criminal. But we do have 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.840 to watch the constitution, constitutionali of it. I think we're 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.000 all rooting for these people to go to prison or worse. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.399 But at the same time I understand the perils of 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.359 enacting a law that says Hey, anything AI generated is 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.840 is you know, if it's child porn, it's no go. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.479 It's It's going to be an interesting conversation that's going 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.119 to develop, for sure, But I appreciate what you do. 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.480 Rebecca Scherndorf for Ohiles, for Hines for child protection. As 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.760 Ohio now tries to get their laws up to speed 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.840 here to match the federal one. We have a man 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:39.440 in Columbus, first one prosecuted under this new law. Federally, 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.120 the DOJ believes first person in the United States convictim 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.160 to the Take It Down Act is James Straller out 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.240 of Columbus, Ohio, and just absolutely horrific things that he 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.560 did to women and involving AI and deep fake porn. Rebecca, 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.080 all the best, Thanks for jumping on this morning. Love 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.159 it all right, Yes maam you too. We got to 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.000 get a news update in run a little bit late 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.160 here on this Thursday morning. We have Reds baseball coming up, 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.400 and hopefully how about three out of four in Miami 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.440 that would be awesome before they head back here against 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.120 the Angels. We'll have it for you today inside Pitch 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.080 at eleven o'clock on the home of the Red seven 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:11.080 hundred WW. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.640 Take a look at your watch. It's Real Estate Time 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:20.960 with Michelle Sloan Remax time Agent extraordinaire from Sloan sellshomes 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:25.200 dot com. Now pay attention, then take notes. There might 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:29.480 be a pop quiz at the end on seven hundred WLW. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.879 Yeah, we haven't switched times on this, It's just we 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.520 have Red's Baseball today coming up at eleven o'clock, a 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:39.000 Verrier eleven o'clock Inside Pitch Getaway day at Miami. Can 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.960 the Reds take three or four? We're gonna find out, 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.040 because last night not so good, not so good. But 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.960 today I maybe we'll start another a five game winning 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:48.800 street kuos. My wife is here to talk real estate 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.719 and stuff. And by the way, I don't know if 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:52.560 it happened minutes ago. I'm not quite sure because I'm 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.359 not there. But we had that ge plane flyover at 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.560 even Dal two thousand feet off the ground, and you 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.439 know if people will see that and flip out, so 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.320 they're just testing. It's like a flying laboratory. It's pretty cool. 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.000 So two thousand feet off the ground is pretty pretty 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.159 low to the ground right there, right. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.640 I did not see it, so I'm assuming that it's 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:12.240 not near me. 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:17.040 But yeah, wow cool, so right, so that's good, that's okay, 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:20.160 that's kind of fun thing to do today. Ge Anyway, 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.120 what's going on with you? 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.800 I have a question for you. Did you take like 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.760 a bite out of the middle of a banana on 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:33.240 the counter and like right in the middle of the banana? 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:34.920 Yeah? 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:36.760 Yeah, that morning, that's what I do. I got an 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.600 extra five I got up early, Michelle, extra five minutes 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.280 before my arm went off. Okay, you know what mean 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:43.320 to do. I got a got up of bed, I 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.000 walked in, I walked in the kitchen and took the 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:46.959 bite out of the middle of banana, because that's what 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.040 I do it at five forty five in the morning. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:56.320 Absolutely, okay, well either I was okay, it was you, 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:56.879 thank goodness. 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:58.879 How big a bite? Well, how big a bite was it? 0:19:58.960 --> 0:19:59.800 Let's do some research. 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:06.520 So it was like a human indentation. Yeah, in the 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:11.040 middle of the banana. The outside of the banana was gone. 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:15.320 Something had been gnawing on the inside of the banana. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:21.000 So here's it describe it. The peel's gone. So whatever 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:22.560 aid it? Took a bite out of the middle of 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:23.560 the bana. 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:28.719 Right, and took the peel and some of the juicy 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:30.160 stuff whatever. 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.320 The banana banana material not the case. 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:35.919 It took the whole time. It took a bite. I 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.640 mean it could have been not a little bite. We've 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.280 been having a little issues with a few mice wanting 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.679 to come in and cracking noises. I was hearing. We 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.639 I think we had a discussion about this. So I 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:53.480 am on high alert for any type of what this 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.240 is vicious activity. 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.480 Yeah, I know what this is because you have I 0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.439 believe you. Is it you You have a client that 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.159 involves squirrels in an attic. 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:07.840 Well, that's happening too. I have somebody in the neighborhood 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.520 is complaining about squirrels in their attic and they're like, 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:14.920 do I have to replace all of the insulation? And 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:19.160 the answer she said, because it's very expensive. And I'm like, yeah, 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:25.320 you do, because any infiltration of animals in your home 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:30.480 leaves droppings, leaves urine with this gross but it is 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:37.080 what it is. All animals do it. So and yeah, 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:41.240 So right now in Cincinnati, we're seeing squirrels looking for 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:46.200 places to nat and the squirrels are if they get 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:50.000 into your attic, it's a nice warm place where they 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:54.439 can where they can have babies, ye, but they also 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:59.080 do a lot of damage. So with that you need 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.359 to your You're going to have to probably call a 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.439 professional because you need a full remediation, meaning you're going 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:08.600 to have to get all of that insulation material out 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.640 of the attic, you'll have to replace it. Then you're 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.520 going to have to steal the holes where they got in. Yeah, 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:16.159 it's a whole. 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:19.360 Thing, the whole thing. I know someone who same thing, 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.399 They had mice in the addict didn't think anything of it, 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:23.280 and then finally like, yeah, I've got some mice up there, 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:26.240 call somebody, and they had a whole colony of mice 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:27.560 up there to the point where they had to take 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.840 out and replace the insulation to the tune of seventeen 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:32.760 thousand dollars. 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:37.800 Ooh mama, Yeah, that's not good. And then there's also 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.119 if it's been up there for long enough, you have 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.920