1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: It's nice size, Dan Ray, I'm doing Easy Boston's News Radio. 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Dan Watkins. There is, of course, 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: an ongoing story at the Massachusetts State House that we 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 2: had been following here on Nightside very closely. Back in 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to seventy two percent of the people 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: who went to the polls during a presidential election here 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts in which the Democrat Vice President Harris beat 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: the eventual winner for the Republican Donald Trump, seventy two 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: percent agreed with a ballot initiative that the state auditor 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: should be allowed to do her job and audit the 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: state legislature, the State House of Representatives, and the state Senate. 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: This has been an ongoing story, and a few weeks 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: ago I learned that one of the gubernatorial candidates, Republican 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: goubernutural candidates here in Massachusetts Minogue, had offered to pay 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: for outside council to represent the auditor's office. So we 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: have with us right now the Republican one of the 17 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: three Republican candidates for governor, Mike Minogue. Mike, welcome to Nightside, 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: first time with us here. Appreciate you spending a few 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: minutes with us. This evening. How are you. How are 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: you tonight, Dan? 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I just finished the RTC of Natick 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: and it's good to be with you. Thanks for having 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: me on. 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: Yep. I'm very familiar with Naateic spent about twenty years 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: out of that part of the state, beautiful part of 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: the state lot it spent a lot of time at 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: the Natick, the West Suburban Hockey Arena, coaching pee wee 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: and midgid and all of that hockey. So I love 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: Natick and I hope you did well out there tonight. 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: You did. 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: You as I said, find yourself now in alliance with 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: the State Order of the Colnwalth of Massachusetts, Die and Intosauglio. 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: Some might say, how did that happen? Why'd you tell us? 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: Some how you decided to get involved in this. It's 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: really become a crusade. 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 37 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: So back in March, when I was just you know, 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: considering and thinking about what was happening with the state 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: and reviewing the balance sheet, it was pretty appalling that 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: we had voted this in in seventy two percent of 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 3: the population or the voters wanted it done, and they 42 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: were not doing it. So I reached out to the 43 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: state auder Diana to Zaglio, and I met with her 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: and she had two issues she was trying to solve, 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: which was one to find a lawyer and a law 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: firm that would take on the ag and the Commonwealth state, 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: and two would be funding for the lawyer. So I 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: decided that I would assist because I think it's the 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: right thing to do, and I did do that, and 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: so that process has gone on until last week, and 51 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: now they're going to go to the phase two and 52 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: move on to the next thing. So I'm very grateful 53 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: to the lawyer, George vain And for his work and 54 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: courage and credit to the auditor who continues to push 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: back against corruption. And we should all remember we are 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: not political enemies. Corruption is not a blue or a 57 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: red issue. It's an American issue. And every taxpayer, all 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: our citizens, do not want their tax dollars wasted. And 59 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: we know we've got tons of waste, fraud, and excess. 60 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: And it's not just in the legislature, it's in the 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 3: sixty three billion dollar budget. That's where we need to 62 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: get to. And when I am governor on day one 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 3: are to bring in outside agencies. I'm going to start 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: auditing every different department. 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: I was sixty three, I soon to be probably sixty 66 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: four billion dollar budget has certainly grown exponentially in the 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: last I don't know since since let us say, the 68 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: turn of the century, under both Republican and Democratic governors. 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: So here we have a Republican candidate for governor and 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: an incumbent Democratic Secretary of State if from my point 71 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: of view, definitely try to do what is in the 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: interest of the vast majority of people here in the 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: common Wealth of Massachusetts. I believe a part of the 74 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: problem is that this has become a one party state, 75 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: and that in a normal state, where there's some sort 76 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: of a balance between Republicans and Democrats you have you 77 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't have a problem like this. But I think things 78 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: are out of whack when you look at the composition 79 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: of the legislature. I think there's four state senators who 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: are Republican and thirty six Democrats, and there are about 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: twenty five state representatives and about one hundred and thirty 82 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: five Democrats. This is a problem for anybody, including yourself, 83 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: running for governor. And I think it's great that you 84 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: have on this issue worked with Democrats, and I assumed 85 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: that would be indicative of what you might be able 86 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: to do if you have the good fortune of being 87 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: elected governor. 88 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: And we need people that have been successful in the 89 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: military or private se to go in and replace our politicians. 90 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: Our politicians have failed us. We need public servants who 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: are coming in to solve problems. And you're one hundred 92 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: percent right. The one party system allows overspending, which they 93 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: do every year. Over taxing, we've eate taxes and Massachusetts 94 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: takes more of your income than ninety percent of America. 95 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: And overregulating it's just slow. And because they're failing us, 96 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: we don't solve any problems. And people are bailing young 97 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: and old, and sixty percent of the people leaving are 98 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: between the ages of twenty five and forty four. That's 99 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: our future. So we need a new kind of governor 100 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: who's going to serve a purpose and help make Massachusetts 101 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: again the best place to live, work and raise a family. 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: One of the things we have talked about is what 103 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: they call outflow out migration. U HAUL does this survey 104 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: every year and they find that there are more people 105 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: leaving Massachusetts than coming to Massachusetts, and that is obviously 106 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: a real issue. How confident are you? And we're going 107 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: to be talking with Diana Desauglia in just a few minutes. 108 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: She is now in front of the court, in front 109 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: of the State Supreme Court. How confident are you the 110 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: State Supreme Court, which, by the way, have some of 111 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: the members have been appointed by Republicans and some have 112 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: been appointed by Democrats. But sometimes they get together and 113 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: they come down with crazy decisions like the Maddest decision. 114 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're familiar with that one that we've been 115 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: fighting for the last couple of years. I don't think 116 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: most people in Massachusetts know that if the Parole Board 117 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: continues on the track they're going because of the Maddest decision, 118 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: we'll have about one hundred and fifty first degree murderers 119 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: who committed their crimes at the ages of eighteen, nineteen, 120 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: and twenty, which will soon be walking the streets of Massachusetts. 121 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: I know that's a different issue, but it's to me 122 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: so indicative of where our priorities are totally backwards in 123 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 2: this state. 124 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 125 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: The number one role of the governors to keep the 126 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: community safe and uphold the law, and that's very simple 127 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: thing that we need to do. It's also why We 128 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: also need to get rid of this sanctuary state status, 129 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: and we need to remove the criminal, violent gang member 130 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: illegal immigrants. That's compassion and common sense, and we do 131 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: not want to send these people back into the community. 132 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: But if you just look at why we need a 133 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: new kind of governor, the auditor is fighting for the legislature. 134 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: We need a new kind of governors. On day one, 135 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: I can open the books, bring in the third party group, 136 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: and I can start auditing the entire sixty three billion 137 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: dollar budget. I can also hold these parole bols accountable 138 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: because I get to appoint them, and we can have 139 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: a different mindset that is not about campaigning on problems. 140 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: It's about and nearly most of these things around the audit, energy, education, healthcare, 141 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: there are solutions immediately to be implemented, and that's why 142 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: we need to have a new kind of leader in there. 143 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: My last question is the Democratic Attorney General, Andrea Campbell 144 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: has actually been a roadblock to the Democratic State Auditor 145 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: as she attempts to do her job. As voted and 146 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: the valid initiative in twenty twenty four by seventy two 147 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: percent of the population. As someone who's never been a 148 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: held public office, what do you think when you see 149 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: that sort of interreaction amongst between two Democratic constitutional office holders, 150 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: the Attorney general and the auditor. To me, it's inexplicable. 151 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: And I've been around a long time. I'm just curious 152 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: what your reaction is to that seeming interomural warfare within 153 00:08:58,840 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. 154 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: Well, in a way, it's not even a one party 155 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: system anymore. It's just a corrupt party. But that's one 156 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: of the things about being a public company CEO. We've 157 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: never had a governor of Massachusetts has been a public 158 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: company CEO. I was a CEO for nineteen years of Abumed. 159 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: I grew that company from little to over a billion. 160 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: I got it to zero debt and very profitable. Most important, 161 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: I created thousands of jobs and saved hundreds of thousands 162 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: of lives. In the public market, as a CEO, you 163 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: are audited and if you don't you will be fired. 164 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: If you do something wrong, you will go to jail. 165 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: That's the accountability that the private market has that we 166 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: don't have in our government. And if we have a 167 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: new kind of leader coming in that will hold people 168 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: accountable and bring transparency to the entire budget, we will 169 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: shake out billions of dollars in waste, fraud and excess, 170 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: and I will give money back to the towns that 171 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: are being bankrupt by Beacon Hill. 172 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: We will be talking with Diana Dezaglio in the right 173 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: after this break. But I'm sure that she's very appreciative 174 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: of you taking an interest in her fight, because it 175 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: doesn't appear to me that she has too many allies 176 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: on Beacon Hill. But I think she is representing the 177 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: people of Massachusetts up there, and eventually she will be 178 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: rewarded for it with a successful audit of the state legislature. 179 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: So nice to have you on the show and look 180 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: forward to having you back. 181 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Michael, Thank you for having me. 182 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: Republican candidate for governor. Absolutely, thanks very much, Mike. As 183 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: as I promise when we get back, we when we 184 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: be talking with Diana Desauglio. And again, this is an 185 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: interesting alliance, if you will, between a Republican running for 186 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: governor and a Democratic state auditor essentially trying to accomplish 187 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: what seventy two percent of the people of Massachusetts voted for. 188 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: To me, it is that it's clear that this this 189 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: ballot initiative, the decision of the people, the voters needs 190 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 2: to be followed, uh in, not stonewalled. That's why I'm 191 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: very much concerned about this, and I hope you are 192 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: as well. We will take some questions as the as 193 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: our conversation goes on, but we'll get the auditor with 194 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: us and we'll be right back on Nightside right after 195 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: this quick commercial break. 196 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 197 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Well, we just finished a conversation with the Republican one 198 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: of the Republican candidates running for governor, Mike Minogue, who 199 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: has been supportive of the Democratic auditor here in Massachusetts 200 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: and no stranger to this program, Diana Disaglio, Will the 201 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: auditor joins us. Now, Auditor Dozauglia, Welcome back to Nightside. 202 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to listen to any of 203 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: our interview with Mike Minogue? 204 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 5: I did. 205 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 6: I actually caught the jail and in the car, just 206 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 6: got back home, thankfully. Was in Boston tonight. Got to 207 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,119 Speaker 6: go and celebrate the Chinese New Year festivities in Chinatown 208 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 6: and didn't get to Yeah, did get to catch the 209 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 6: tale end of the interview. Thanks for inviting me on, Dan, 210 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 6: really appreciate it. 211 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: Now, where do we stand at this point, obviously, if 212 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 2: you want to describe a little bit of how important 213 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: his help was to you in this effort. You now 214 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 2: have an attorney who I'm familiar with, who actually ran 215 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: for Attorney General here in Massachusetts, a very accomplished class 216 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: action attorney, Shannon Liss Reardon, who has successfully on behalf 217 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: of plaintiffs sued some big companies in this country, Uber, FedEx, 218 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: and Starbucks, to name a few. Tell us where we 219 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: are in this process. I mean, people are interested in 220 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: this story. My listeners are interested. You'll take a few 221 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: phone calls. I'm sure people know the number six one, 222 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: seven thirty. Where do we stand at this point? 223 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 6: So essentially, we have just filed with the Supreme Judicial Court, 224 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 6: and we did so after months and months and months 225 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 6: of trying to get the Attorney General to represent our 226 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 6: office in court and represent the people in court. But 227 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 6: the Attorney General has done nothing but stonewall us. And 228 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 6: I know this isn't news to your listeners. Your listeners 229 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 6: know all about this. But the Attorney General has essentially 230 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 6: been stonewalling our efforts to sue the legislature into compliance 231 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 6: with the seventy two percent voter mandated law, and you 232 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 6: did just speak with Mike Minogue, who I just heard on, 233 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 6: and you know, he was just talking a little bit 234 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 6: about his attempt to assist our office. He did reach 235 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 6: out to me months ago before he was a candidate 236 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 6: for public office, and it said, look, you know, I'm 237 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 6: happy to try to assist with this and you know, 238 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 6: pay for an attorney who can represent your office since 239 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 6: the Attorney General won't represent you. And I said, what 240 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 6: you know would be expected. I said, thank you for 241 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 6: the offer. I appreciate the offer to pay for an 242 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 6: attorney to represent us. He assisted in finding an attorney 243 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 6: and we talked to Attorney George BN. Great attorney, very accomplished, 244 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 6: does great work. George did his vest to try to 245 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 6: assist our office, but unfortunately, the Attorney General turned his 246 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 6: offer to assist into you know, some sort of an 247 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 6: issue where she kept alleging that it was unethical that 248 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 6: someone assist our office at no cost to the taxpayer. 249 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 6: We went through the State Ethics Commission as a result. 250 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 6: We just wanted to make sure that we were crossing 251 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 6: our tees and dotting our rise and we made sure 252 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 6: to get clearance for Attorney Vn to be able to 253 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 6: work with our office and for Mike Minogue to fund 254 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 6: the attorney doing that work on behalf of the taxpayers 255 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 6: so that the tax payers didn't have to pay. The 256 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 6: State Ethics Commission said it was completely okay for this 257 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 6: payment to occur and for tax payers not to have 258 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 6: to foot the bill. But Attorney General Campbell kept essentially 259 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 6: kicking and screaming about this and saying that she was 260 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 6: still not going to approve Attorney George Vn to be 261 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 6: our special Assistant Attorney General. And really, you know, the 262 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 6: easy was just creating more of a distraction by constantly 263 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 6: focusing on this issue instead of focusing on the underlying 264 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 6: issue of the fact that the legislature's violating the law 265 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 6: right now. So we decided to move on to the 266 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 6: next phase. Of course, are very thankful to Attorney Vn 267 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 6: for his great work trying to assist our office, and 268 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 6: we did decide to move forward with the attorney channelists 269 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 6: reared in for this next phase getting access to court 270 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 6: in avas Atornalist ridden if she would represent us and 271 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 6: represent the Commonwealth in this case in front of the 272 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 6: s JAC and make our case for the voters to 273 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 6: finally get access to the financial receipts and state contracts 274 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,479 Speaker 6: and other administrative and business records of our state legislature 275 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 6: as they deserve. So this is going before the court 276 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 6: right now. We have filed suit. The Attorney General has 277 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 6: promised to work to get the case dismissed. She is 278 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 6: working against the people. You will hear that she's just staying. 279 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 5: Out of it. 280 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 6: She's not just staying out of it. She's not standing 281 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 6: on the sidelines. She is actively working to oppose this 282 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 6: and working to get this dismissed from the court so 283 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 6: that she can protect her friends, the Speaker and the 284 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 6: Senate President from having to follow the law. They have 285 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 6: subsequently rewarded her with a nice twelve percent budget increase 286 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 6: to her budget and she will see that annually moving forward. 287 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 6: So you can't think of a better example bull of 288 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 6: a quid pro quo. But the you know, the laws 289 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 6: being broken, there's a payoffs happening, and our own attorney 290 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 6: general is working against us right now. So you know, 291 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 6: I heard you talking a little bit Dan about you 292 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 6: know it's it's Democrat and democrat and two constitutional officers 293 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 6: are at odds with each other. Yes we are, and 294 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 6: yes I'm a registered Democrat. But you know, more so, 295 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 6: I'm a kid from ma Fillan and Lawrence, Okay, and 296 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 6: my neighbors are not happy right now. And I live 297 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 6: and work in the communities that I grew up in 298 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 6: and people are upset. They are furious that the law 299 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 6: that they voted for is not being implemented. So yeah, 300 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 6: my party leaders in the party establishment is telling me 301 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 6: to back off and know my role essentially, but sorry, 302 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 6: not sorry. You know, my community is much more important 303 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 6: than the party establishment, and it's the right thing to do. 304 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 6: These people need to follow the law. I don't care 305 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 6: that they're in the upper echelons of the Democratic party establishment. 306 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 6: They're not following the law. So this is a non 307 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 6: part is an issue, and you know it's something that 308 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 6: everybody can agree on. Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative. We want 309 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 6: to know how our tax dollars are being spent. It's 310 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 6: beyond pastime to do the right thing and get this 311 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 6: law followed. I hope the SGC side with the people, 312 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 6: not the politicians. 313 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you it's an extraordinary story. And the 314 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: Attorney General Andrea Campbell is more than an obstacle. She's 315 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: basically become a roadblock and I cannot, for the life 316 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: of me understand you know again, obviously the legislature, the 317 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: Speaker of the House, and the Senate President. Who are 318 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: the people who are who have refused to follow the 319 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: will of the people. They are the politicians who have 320 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: refused to follow the will of the people. They also 321 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: do fund various and sundry offices. And I did notice 322 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 2: that the Attorney General's office received a pretty healthy twelve 323 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: percent increase in their budget when most people who are 324 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: paying those taxes are not getting a raise anywhere close 325 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: to twelve percent. And it is It's a crazy, insane 326 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: story on the face of it. So why don't we 327 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: do this? We got to take a break at the 328 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: bottom of the hour. I know that you have worked 329 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: all day because you're the hardest working leader leader in 330 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: Massachusetts that I know of. You're up early and you 331 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: stay up late. But I got a bunch of phone 332 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: callers who would like to talk with you, and I 333 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: suspect most of them are in your corner, at least 334 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: seventy two percent of them. Yeah, let's take a quick break. 335 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: You can catch your breath and we'll be right back 336 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: on nights side with phone callers for the state Order 337 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: the come Wealth of Massachuset, says Diane and Desauglio. She's 338 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: the auditor. The only thing she would like to do 339 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: is perform her job as auditor and conduct an audit 340 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: of the state legislature, which was approved by the voters 341 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts by it by seventy two percent in twenty 342 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: twenty four. You can't make this stuff up, it says, 343 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 2: seventy two percent. No one there there are very few 344 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: ballid questions. I mean, if if you have a ballid 345 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: question on you know, do you like puppies, I'll bet 346 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: it probably would be seventy two percent or maybe even 347 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: a little more. But you got seventy two percent, and 348 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: they're stonewalling you. You know, unbelievable story Back on Night Side. 349 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: The only line they have opened right now, there's one 350 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: line at six, one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. 351 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: Uh what what a story? Coming back on night Side. 352 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news Radio. 353 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: We're talking with the Massachusetts State Auditor, Diana Dezaglio. This 354 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: is a story that we will cover and will continue 355 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: to cover, and that is her efforts to basically impose 356 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: on the state legislature the will of the people. It's 357 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: as simple as that, despite opposition from the Attorney General. 358 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: Are you getting any support from the Corner Office on 359 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 2: this one, Diana or no? 360 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 4: Now? 361 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, Look, a lot of people you know obviously see 362 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 6: us out at events together, and certainly we attend different 363 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 6: events together, those of us who worked up on Beacon Hell. 364 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 6: But no, I haven't received support from the Corner Office. 365 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 6: I haven't received support from the Attorney General. I've been 366 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 6: pleading with both the Attorney General and the governor for 367 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 6: assistants since this passed into law, but unfortunately, you know, 368 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 6: my requests for assistance have unfortunately fallen on deaf years 369 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 6: and we haven't gotten assistance. 370 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: Now. 371 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 6: Both the attorneys General and the governor do claim that 372 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 6: they for this, but just that's not coming along with 373 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 6: any assistance unfortunately. So you know, I would love it 374 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 6: if the Attorney General could stop colluding with the secrets 375 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 6: and a president to violate the law, and if the 376 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 6: Governor could come out more strongly and really call on 377 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 6: legislative leaders to start following the law and use the 378 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 6: bully pulpit of her office to do so. I think 379 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 6: that that would be beneficial for everybody because right now 380 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 6: what's happening is the secrets and a president are ruling 381 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 6: and reigning supreme and they control the purse strings. So 382 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 6: you know, a lot of people are afraid to stand 383 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 6: up to them. And we see a lot of standing 384 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 6: up to the federal administration. But you know, with all 385 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 6: due respect, in Massachusetts, if you're a Democrat, a statewide 386 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 6: Democrat especially, and you're not standing up to Trump, what 387 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 6: are you doing? You know, I mean this is Masschusetts. 388 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 6: It's a blue state. And if you're a Democratic elected 389 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 6: statewide leader, I mean you have to remember Dan, even 390 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 6: Charlie Baker, right, even Charlie Baker, our former Republican governor, 391 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 6: was standing up to the Trump administration as a Massachusetts 392 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 6: Republican elected governor. Okay, And and he did that, you 393 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 6: know why because he knows where he lives, right and 394 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 6: agree or disagree, you know, he knows where he lives. 395 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 6: So he did, you know, say, he didn't support Trump, 396 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 6: he didn't vote for Trump. And you know, for Democrats 397 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 6: essentially standing up to Trump, that's the floor, not the ceiling, right, 398 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 6: It's it's kind of the bare minimum expectation of being 399 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 6: a Democrat in Massachusetts. Where the real courage comes in. 400 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 6: Where the real courage comes in is standing up to 401 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 6: corruption in our own party. That's challenging. It's very easy 402 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 6: for a Democrat elected official to say that they don't 403 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 6: support Donald Trump. What's less easy to do and more 404 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 6: difficult to do is stand up to party leaders and 405 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 6: say you're breaking the law, you need to be held accountable, 406 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 6: you need to follow the will of the voters, you 407 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 6: need to stop undermining democracy. That is something that you know, 408 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 6: we're not seeing up on Beacon Hill unfortunately, and it's 409 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 6: you know, there are a lot of friends and people 410 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 6: are kind of providing cover for each other, and unfortunately 411 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 6: there's just a lot of going along to get along, 412 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 6: and it's really not okay, and it's allowing for the 413 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 6: law to get broken. So I would appreciate some assistance. 414 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 6: I don't really see it coming anytime soon. So that's 415 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 6: why I'm suing. So we are suing in the SJAC 416 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 6: and we're asking to judge to step in. 417 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: I would just add the Washington Post used to have 418 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: as their slogan democracy dies in darkness. But also it 419 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: sounds to be like democracy dies on Beacon Hill. Maybe 420 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: we should have another slogan here because clearly this is 421 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: a mandate. I mean, there's no doubt about it. Let's 422 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: go to phone calls, madam, auditor. Let me go to 423 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: Mary Beth and Hanover, Mary Beth and Hanover. I was 424 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 2: having a conversation with a friend of mine about you 425 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: the other day. Welcome back, Yes, well, welcome back. Say 426 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: hi to auditor Diana Desauglio. This is a crazy story. 427 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: If you have a question or comment, we'd love to 428 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: hear it. 429 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 7: Yes, so, hi, Diana. 430 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 5: I voted for this. 431 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 7: I just can't believe that they can get away with 432 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 7: not following the law. I work, aside from the restaurant, 433 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 7: I work for a housing authority and we're audited twice 434 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 7: a year. Once is the performance, once is a financial aspect. 435 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 7: We just had it two weeks ago. We don't have 436 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 7: a choice in that. We passed with box playing colors 437 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 7: because we do our job. And this was my director's 438 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 7: first year doing this. Never worked in housing. 439 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 8: She was nervous. I said, you don't have to be nervous. 440 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 8: We're doing what we're supposed to be doing. If they can't, uh, 441 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 8: if they don't want to show their books, why you know, 442 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 8: and what is their reasoning that they told you why 443 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 8: they refuse to do this. 444 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 6: So they essentially just say number one, the number one 445 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 6: reason is really because they don't like me and they 446 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 6: don't want me to audit their books arsenal, a reason 447 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 6: that breaks a lot exactly. But but the other reason 448 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 6: that they're using is cover for the real reason is 449 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 6: that they believe that this is unconstitutional. It's not unconstitutional. 450 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: You know, let me tell you something to marry about. 451 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 8: Hey, we're putting money into the government the state of Massachusetts. 452 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 8: We should know where it's going, we should know what's 453 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 8: going on. 454 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 6: I agree one hundred percent. And you know what's about 455 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 6: their argument is that they actually have what's called the 456 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 6: Post Audit and Oversight Committee that actually audits the executive 457 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 6: branch agencies, and they're conducting post audit and oversight hearings 458 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 6: of the Department of Transportations contracts right now, you know, 459 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 6: the contracts that have been under scrutiny recently. They're absolutely 460 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 6: conducting oversight hearings of the executive branch agencies right now. 461 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 6: But they say, oh, and audit for THEE but not 462 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: for me. We can look at your contract, we can't 463 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 6: look at our contracts, so you know what are they hiding. 464 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 6: We all want to know. 465 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 5: Everybody wants to know. 466 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: I will make a prediction. I will make a prediction, 467 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 2: and that is your office will not receive a twelve 468 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: percent increase in your budget from the legislature. 469 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 470 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 7: I mean, it's just I just don't understand how the 471 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 7: not just the big government, but now the stake govement. 472 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 7: And I'll tell you something. It is such a blue 473 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 7: state and I'm an independent and I vote both ways, 474 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 7: and I loved Charlie Baker, and I can't wait to 475 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 7: stop voting these people out. And I hope that others 476 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 7: follow suit. 477 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: But we will see. Mary Beth, so great to hear 478 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: your voice. 479 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 3: Don't be a strange Thank you, Mary Bath. 480 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 5: I won that. 481 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 8: I'm so busy lately, but yeah, anyways, so keep up 482 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 8: the good work, keep pushing. 483 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: Thanks. 484 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 6: Thanks Mary Beth. I can't do it without you. 485 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 7: And when you go to vault, please. 486 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 6: Remember I'm gonna behind your ballot this Guarto, so help 487 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 6: help me out here. 488 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: I will. I'll make a side bed with you, Diane, 489 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 2: And do is ugly that that you will get a 490 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: bigger percentage of vote than any other person under ballot 491 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. 492 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 8: And then I remember when what was going on and 493 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 8: you said, the only people who shouldn't vote for this 494 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 8: are the ones that work for the government. Everyone else 495 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 8: should vote for it. And this is exactly what we 496 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 8: voted for. 497 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you bet you, Mary Beth, thank you so much. 498 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Okay, have a great night. Good night. 499 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: Let me go next to in Dorchester. Paul, gonna get 500 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: you in here before the break. Go right ahead. You're 501 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: all with the Auditor of the come Out of Massachusetts, 502 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 2: Diana Dezaglio. 503 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: Good evening, welcome to the scratch my backstate of Massachusetts. 504 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: The well, God bless you for what you're doing. You 505 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 4: realize that seventy two percent of the people is of 506 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: the five over five million that voted, is you have 507 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: two and a half million people at least behind you. 508 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: But let me tell you, have you heard anything about 509 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: the fix that's going end That our corner office person 510 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: is going to work point a person to the UMass 511 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: Medical School for a million dollars and that's going to 512 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 4: be a retired judge. And the person that's gonna take 513 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: that s JC position is going to put the fix in. 514 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 4: And I'm sad to say that. I, well, that. 515 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: Takes a while. I think this will be this matter, Paul, 516 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: I have no idea what you're talking about, and I 517 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: really don't want to go down that road. I would 518 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: I would simply say that this matter will be addressed 519 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: or should be addressed by the State Supreme Court one 520 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: way or the other, sooner rather than later. 521 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: I've been ready, federal chance. I believe we're going to 522 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: get outside of this state. It is all corrupt. You 523 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 4: will I do not think you will find justice in 524 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 4: the Supreme Judicial Court. 525 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, well let's give them. Let's give so much. 526 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 6: You know, look, I really, Paul, thank you for your support. 527 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 6: I I hear your frustration and lack of concern, not 528 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 6: lack of concern, excuse me, your strong concern for uh, 529 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 6: the courts with respect to making sure that they're able 530 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 6: to do their jobs right. I think that you know, 531 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 6: a lot of people have unfortunately lost faith in the 532 00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 6: judiciary in recent years especially, and this is something actually 533 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 6: that our Chief Justice brought up in her State of 534 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 6: the Judiciary. I watched it if you go online, you 535 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 6: can watch it on YouTube. It's the Chief Justice bud 536 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 6: State of the Judiciary, and she talked at lengths about 537 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 6: how people are losing faith and trust in the court system. 538 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 6: That we're supposed to get impartial hearings, but a lot 539 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 6: of us feel like we're not getting access to the 540 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 6: types of justice that people deserve. Right, so they recognize 541 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 6: this very much, so that the people are losing confidence 542 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 6: and continue to lose confidence. And I brought this up 543 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 6: recently in one of the or two of the audits 544 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 6: that we just did, where I had two Justices, Justice 545 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 6: Heidi Brigger and Justice Amy Blake say, and this is 546 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 6: for the first time in history, by the way that 547 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 6: we can find say that they just were going to 548 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 6: stop being audited. For the first time. My office has 549 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 6: audited the courts always, essentially my predecessor, Susan Bump audited 550 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 6: the courts quite often, did some very good audits of 551 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 6: the courts. Actually, and when we went in to audit 552 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 6: the courts this year, as we always have, for the 553 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 6: first time, these two judges decided that they're just not 554 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 6: going to be audited anymore. And do you know what 555 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 6: they cited. They cited the Attorney General's defense of the 556 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 6: state legislature. And they said, well, because the Attorney General 557 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 6: is letting the legislature or not be audited. Essentially, they 558 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 6: want in on this and they don't want to have 559 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 6: to be audited either. So you know, I hear the 560 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 6: frustration Paul, and look, I'm I'm concerned too that when 561 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 6: I go to court, I am concerned about getting an 562 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 6: impartial hearing because you know, look, judges are appointed through 563 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 6: Beacon Hill, and there's nothing inherently wrong with that necessarily, 564 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 6: but it does call into question, you know, whether we're 565 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 6: going to get in an impartial hearing or not when 566 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 6: I have two judges saying that they don't want to 567 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 6: be audited anymore. But I need to bring the case 568 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 6: of auditing the legislature before the courts. 569 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: Let me just. 570 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 6: Say one thing, because it's our only way. 571 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: I just want to say one quick thing. A great judge, 572 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: Mark Wolfe once said he quoted Lord acton power corrupts 573 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: and absolute power corrupts. 574 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 6: Absolutely uh, absolutely right. 575 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: True words have been spoken. Paul. I got you in 576 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: before the break, But unfortunately, I. 577 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: Am wait has representation. Did they forget what happened last time? 578 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: Will Paul do me a favor? Talk to your neighbors. 579 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: There's an election coming up. The auditor is running for reelection. 580 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: You must have a website at this point, Diana, I 581 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: assume correct. 582 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh Diana at Diana douglio dot com. 583 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I predict that you will get my email. 584 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 6: It's Diana douglo dot com. Thank you, no problem. 585 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: It's a long day. It's a long day, particularly when 586 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: you got to talk Joe host talking to you at 587 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: ten o'clock in the morning. Thank you, Paul, appreciate your call. 588 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: Please talk to your friends and neighbors and make sure 589 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: they vote. Make sure they vote. Thank you, Paul, and 590 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: keep listening. Keep listening to Nightside, because we'll stay on 591 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: top of this. We'll take a very quick break, going 592 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: to be back. I promise I have three calls. Are 593 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: going to try to get them all in coming right 594 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: back on Nightside. 595 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 596 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: I try to get everyone in. Joe and Lynn. Joe, 597 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: you're next on night Side with the State Order. Go 598 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: right ahead, Joe. 599 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 9: Hey, Diane, I'm so glad that you're on again. I 600 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 9: spoke with you before. I'm the visually impaired person. I 601 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 9: love it when Democrats and Republicans can work together. I'm independent. 602 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 9: You may or may not like Trump. Sometimes you agree 603 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 9: or disagree. I hope these people get punished. I will 604 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 9: vote for you, and I hope they all go to jail. 605 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 9: They should be. There's no excuse. We need to straighten 606 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 9: out this state in a lot of ways, nursing homes, 607 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 9: the way they treat disability. And I hope to meet 608 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 9: you or call you someday. And I just went in 609 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 9: your comments. I am totally in support. This is a 610 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 9: horrific disgrace. These people need to be punished severely. I 611 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 9: like your comments on it. Thank you. 612 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: Thanks, Joe, appreciate you call Diana real quick comment if 613 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: you will. I got other callers want to. 614 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 4: Get to Yo. 615 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 6: Thanks so much for your support. You know, I don't 616 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 6: want anybody to have to suffer because of this or 617 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 6: you know, this audit is not so that people get 618 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 6: in trouble or people you know, have to go to 619 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 6: jail or anything like that. We in the Auditor's office, 620 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 6: we have accountants, we have CPAs, we have people who 621 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 6: look at the financials, who look at the state contracts, 622 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 6: and it's our intention to help make government work better. 623 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 6: We are concerns like you are, though, Joe, that if 624 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 6: they are hiding something, that means there could be something 625 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 6: that is worth hiding, right, and that could be something 626 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 6: more serious than you know, obviously we might have originally thought. 627 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 6: So I hope that that's not the case. I hope 628 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 6: that these folks aren't, excuse me, are not hiding anything 629 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 6: that is illegal or unlawful. And I hope that the 630 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 6: taxpayers get justice and that we're able to just go 631 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 6: in into our jobs and put the receipts out there 632 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 6: and put the contracts out there. But you know, we 633 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 6: do wonder what are you hiding, and if there is 634 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 6: something that's unlawful happening, we are going to we are 635 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 6: going to make that known. 636 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: And sunlight is the greatest disinfected as we know. Carol, 637 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: who is in Randolph joins us. Now, Carol, you are 638 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: with the state auditor, Diana do is ugli Old Massachusetts. 639 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Carol, Oh. 640 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 5: Hi, Diana. I am so happy for what you're doing. 641 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 5: I support you fully. I mean, I work in a business, 642 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 5: in a financial business, I get audited every year, and 643 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 5: my job is to make sure that when I get audited, 644 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 5: everything is pristine. My job is to make sure that 645 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 5: it's the best audit. Ever, I don't understand why the 646 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 5: government doesn't work that way. 647 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 2: It should work that way, and that's the way it's 648 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: supposed to work. And that is what uh the auditor 649 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: wants to do. She wants to do her job, and 650 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: she's being blockaded from doing her job by some people 651 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: up on Beacon Hill who I think have lost their way. 652 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 653 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 5: I support you one hundred percent. I mean, an audit 654 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 5: is like an audit to me in my business is 655 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 5: like it's a reaffirmation that what you're doing is right, 656 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 5: and come in, inspect the books and get if I'm 657 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 5: doing something wrong pointed out, I'll. 658 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 6: Correct exactly exactly. I think it just hit the nail 659 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 6: on the head, right, If I'm doing something wrong, you 660 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 6: just pointed out, let's fix it, right. And that's what 661 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 6: we're there for. We actually, we actually provide a service 662 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 6: to these folks when we go in and we conduct 663 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 6: these audits because if we can find issues that need 664 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 6: to be resolved and we can make recommendations sit on 665 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 6: a we often do about how to resolve some of 666 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 6: these issues. Potentially it can potentially keep them out of 667 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 6: getting into trouble down the road or help them to 668 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 6: get back on the right track if they happen to 669 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 6: have been violating a state regulation and they weren't aware 670 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 6: of it, or if they were violating a policy and 671 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 6: they weren't aware of it, or even if even if 672 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 6: we have a set of best practices to recommend to 673 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 6: them that the office has you know, stumbled upon or 674 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 6: you know, found through its research, and we've done comparative analysis, 675 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 6: you know, with other states, for example, and we've said, hey, 676 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 6: another state does it this way. Maybe this will help 677 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 6: if you look at some of these different initiatives that 678 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 6: this other state is working on, and you know, maybe 679 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 6: we can take a page from their book on this, 680 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 6: because they seem to be doing this a little bit better. 681 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: It's almost like you go to your doctor and your 682 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: doctor does some test on you and he says, hey, 683 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 2: you got to do this, you got to do that. 684 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: And Carol, like I did one more in before the break. 685 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: I loved you, Carl. Thank you as always, Carol, Thank 686 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: you such. 687 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 6: Thank you so much. 688 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 5: Thank you. 689 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 2: Great night. Dennis and Lowell. Dennis, you're the last caller 690 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: of the hour. You were next on Nightside with Diana. 691 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 10: I always seem to be the last one. 692 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: Friend got my fault. 693 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 10: I'm sorry, Uh, I couldn't resist calling you, of course. 694 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 2: Uh. 695 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 10: I've been a big fan of Diana since she first 696 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 10: ran for office, and like you say, Diana, accountability is 697 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 10: the voter's major concern this year, and you're certainly seeking 698 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 10: it into How can I contribute to your campaign? 699 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 6: You can go to Dianadizoglio dot com, www dot Dianadzouglio 700 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 6: dot com. If you don't know how to spell it, 701 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 6: just do a quick internet search for Diana State Auditor 702 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 6: and then go to my website and click. 703 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 5: On the donate by it. 704 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 6: And that's a great question. 705 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 3: Dennis. 706 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 5: I love that you called in tonight. 707 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 7: Thank you. 708 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 6: Anyone else you'd like to contribute, please feel free to 709 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 6: hop online. I do need your support this year. I'm 710 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 6: up against it and taking on the beacon hell establishment 711 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 6: is not easy. I can't do this without you, so please, 712 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 6: if you can give five hundred, give five hundred. If 713 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 6: you can give five dollars, give five dollars. Any little 714 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 6: bit helps. Thanks so much, Dennis, I appreciate you. 715 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 2: Thanks Donna's perfect timing. Thank you very much. Dina Azagio, 716 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: as always, thank you again. You're going to come out 717 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: of this on the other end as the top vote 718 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 2: getter statewide in my opinion. We will see if that 719 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 2: prediction comes true. But I have other predictions that I'll 720 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 2: tell you about later on that they're all good. 721 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 6: To you for your vote of confidence, and I appreciate 722 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 6: my vote. Thanks everybody, you have. 723 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: My vote in my voter confidence. 724 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 6: Thanks Diana, Talk soon, all right, thanks so much, by 725 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 6: bye bye bye. 726 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to talk about an 727 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 2: attorney and her client's fight for freedom. It's a very 728 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 2: interesting case and we will explain it all to you 729 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: on the other side of the ten o'clock news here 730 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: on night side.