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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI A six on demand. Debbie, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi you, Debbie, Hi, How

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Speaker 1: can I help you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? You bring such joy and you touch my

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Speaker 2: life in so many ways. I have a situation that

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Speaker 2: has brought me deeper into my faith. I was on

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Speaker 2: life sport a couple of years ago, but now I'm

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Speaker 2: having these dreams.

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Speaker 1: They they.

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Speaker 2: Diagnosed me with post traumatic stress disorder. My dreams are

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Speaker 2: that I'm at my own funeral and all these people

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Speaker 2: so real. I could, you know, I hear everything they

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Speaker 2: say and how they miss me and all stuff. I'm

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Speaker 2: just wondering, is there any place in the Bible where

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Speaker 2: I can go to get some guidance to try to

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Speaker 2: deal with this?

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Speaker 1: Well? Sure, specifically, no, there's nothing specific about PTSD. Now

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Speaker 1: I would say, what is it that your physician? Why

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Speaker 1: do they think that you have this? Because this was

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Speaker 1: because of an illness?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because I was on life support. I say,

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Speaker 2: the Good Lord pulled me through. I know he has

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Speaker 2: a plan for me. I'm just waiting for him to

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Speaker 2: tell me what that is. But I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: guess I'm confused. I don't know why I'm having the

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Speaker 2: dreams and why it would be.

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Speaker 1: Well dreams.

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Speaker 1: Dreams play many parts in scripture, and sometimes a dream

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Speaker 1: is a dream, and most often people try and see

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Speaker 1: dreams as literal. But the most common theory, and one

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Speaker 1: of the best theories, is if you imagined a mirror,

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Speaker 1: a big mirror that was reflecting one of your bedrooms,

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Speaker 1: let's say in your home, and you could see everything.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it's your bedroom. It's got the clock on

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Speaker 1: the table, the lamp, that beautiful lamp that you love

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Speaker 1: so much. You can see your bed, the window with

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Speaker 1: kids playing on the outside, and a tree and a

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Speaker 1: bird and all these things in that mirror. And then

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Speaker 1: if you went and you broke that mirror, and the

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Speaker 1: twisted pieces now would shift their perspective, and now maybe

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Speaker 1: you would just see the bird instead of the kids

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Speaker 1: just above the bird, so it would look as if

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Speaker 1: the lamp was on top of the bird's head. And

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Speaker 1: all these things are a distorted view of something that

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Speaker 1: you already know or things that are in your life

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Speaker 1: on a day to day basis or are in your

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Speaker 1: heart or your head. So a dream often is very disjointed,

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Speaker 1: and that's why when you wake up and you try

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Speaker 1: to piece it together, you're saying, well, I was in

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Speaker 1: my house, but it wasn't my house, but I knew

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Speaker 1: it was my house, but I didn't look anything like

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Speaker 1: starting to try and reconstruct something that is torn apart.

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Speaker 1: It's all piecemeal and it can be confusing. So I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't take that dream per se as literal as much

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Speaker 1: as it is that, Yes, you had a traumatic experience

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Speaker 1: and you thought probably a lot about death and what

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Speaker 1: It also made you think about those that you cared

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Speaker 1: about it and or knew that had moved on before you,

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Speaker 1: and that comes together in a dream that can be

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Speaker 1: So I don't know that you're going to pull direct

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Speaker 1: although it doesn't speak specifically to PTSD, And keep in

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Speaker 1: mind PTSD is thrown around a lot there's very different

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Speaker 1: forms and for different reasons. There's those that come back

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Speaker 1: and different kind. But there's those that get it from

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Speaker 1: watching someone they care about passing away, or in your case,

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Speaker 1: you going through something physically draining that was scary and

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Speaker 1: potentially life threatening, and you go through all those things

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Speaker 1: and they cause you to wonder about your stability. It's

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Speaker 1: like you live every day with the stability. It's like

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Speaker 1: It's moving all the time. And there's things like that

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Speaker 1: and make you quite nervous. I will say that there

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Speaker 1: ask you to hear it in its fullness. It says,

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Speaker 1: Praise be to God and Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 1: the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort,

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Speaker 1: who comforts us in our troubles. So that we can

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Speaker 1: comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves

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Speaker 1: received from God. For just as we share abundantly in

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Speaker 1: the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ. Now,

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Speaker 1: the word comfort is used so much there it gets

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Speaker 1: kind of tied up in all of it. But when

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Speaker 1: you see it laid out, it's talking about the compassion

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Speaker 1: of the Father and the God of all comfort. Every

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Speaker 1: comfort comes from God. The peace of life that you enjoy,

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Speaker 1: the things the stability in your life, Debbie come from God.

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Speaker 1: So it talks about God being the author of all

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Speaker 1: God the author of comfort, but God actively comforts you

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Speaker 1: in your troubles. Why so that you also can comfort

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Speaker 1: others in trouble with what with the comfort that you

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Speaker 1: receive from God? But verse five is interesting because it

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Speaker 1: doesn't say if there's no if here there's no maybe.

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Speaker 1: It says, for just as we share abundantly in the

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Speaker 1: sufferings of Christ, not if you have sufferings like Christ

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Speaker 1: or any of that. It's for just as we share

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Speaker 1: abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort

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Speaker 1: abounds through Christ. And really focusing on God and letting

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Speaker 1: God be your stability, because the world is not stable.

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Speaker 1: There are sharp corners to it. There are scary things

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Speaker 1: that happen, there are scary people, scary circumstances, and there

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Speaker 1: are ugly things. There are accidents, there are ugly things

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Speaker 1: that happen. And if you focus on those things, if

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Speaker 1: you define yourself by that moment, if you define yourself

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Speaker 1: by the things that have happened to you, then yes,

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Speaker 1: that will build up inside you and that will become

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Speaker 1: your focus. If you focus on God, the unchanging creator

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Speaker 1: of all creation and the author and distributor of comfort,

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Speaker 1: and you use what comfort you receive to comfort others

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Speaker 1: to the best of your ability. That's what you're called

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Speaker 1: to do right now, That's what God wants you to do.

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Speaker 2: I devoted just about every minute of my datium since

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Speaker 2: I woke up out of on life support. And it

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Speaker 2: makes me such joy when I do that, and when

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Speaker 2: I mind myself falling back, that's when I start all

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Speaker 2: this stuff up again.

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Speaker 1: Had a girl. That's exactly right. So is there a

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Speaker 1: way for you to donate your time or to spend

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Speaker 3: Something I've done that.

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Speaker 2: I've done. I'm in Los Angeles and I walked through

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Speaker 2: to talk about God or anything like that until my

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Speaker 2: life support a couple of years ago. And I always

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Speaker 2: and I find myself talking to them about Him now

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Speaker 2: and their problems, and when I get hold it makes

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Speaker 2: do that. It's and it just seems like I'm in

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Speaker 1: Well, I beg to differ. I think you sound great,

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Speaker 1: and I will tell you there is and again there's

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Speaker 1: different types of PTSD, and I don't want people to

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Speaker 1: time is going to play a part. But everything you're

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Speaker 1: that will be the path to your peace. Talk about

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Speaker 1: the things that are important in life and the afterlife.

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Speaker 1: Also to look at solutions rather than just problems, because

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Speaker 1: And I know that there are going to be things

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Speaker 1: you really think about what it means. It it takes

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Speaker 3: Thank you for taking my call. I'm totally confused. Okay,

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Speaker 3: take part in take part in Bible studies, but we

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Speaker 3: have a conflict. And basically this is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Did Mary actually die, was buried or did she not

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Speaker 1: Well, there's that question is answered differently depending on what

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Speaker 1: the Catholics would say that she did not die, but

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Speaker 1: as a Protestant, Protestants would say that absolutely Mary did die.

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Speaker 1: So really there and there's it doesn't say in scripture

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Speaker 1: the question. As to what answer that you may get. Gary,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 4: Hello, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm well, Gary, How are you all right? How can

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Speaker 1: I help you?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: My question for you is a I have a I

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Speaker 4: have a real hard time in believing, just believing in

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Speaker 4: the Bible, believing in God. I want to Oh, I

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Speaker 4: see I see people go to church. I see them,

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Speaker 4: I see them happy, I see them successful. I try

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Speaker 4: to read Bible verses, and it's just really really hard

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Speaker 4: for me to uh two, to have faith and let

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Speaker 4: everything go. And I'm just so I'm so nervous and

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Speaker 4: I'm so scared, Like I just feel like there's a

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I do want to point out

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