WEBVTT - 12-11-25 Midweek Crisis with Dan Carroll 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.320 Oh, another big night on seven hundred WLW. Three hours 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.760 of live radio coming your way five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:18.320 eight hundred the Big One. If you want to get 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.760 on board, I'm Dan Carroll. We call this the Thursday 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:26.000 night edition of the Midweek Crisis, and Joe Waddell is 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.440 running the big board in the seven hundred WLW command center, 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.360 so I want to thank him for that. Where do 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.040 we start tonight? Snow is moving in. If you're out there, 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.760 you're driving around, maybe you're driving in that snow and 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.680 you want to pass along some road conditions. I would 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.720 be more than happy to hear about that. Hear how 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.599 things are going out there. I know I left here 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.239 last night. Joe Wadell, how was your drive home last night? 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.639 Little tricky? Yeah, that snow is coming down last night, 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:58.920 probably the same thing heading home tonight. You know, you 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.600 gotta be uh, you got to be realistic about your 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.319 ability to drive in the snow sometimes. And then we 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.280 might be in for one of those days tomorrow talking 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.240 about three and a half four inches on the ground, 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.560 So we will see what happens. Wintertime is not wintertime yet, 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.959 but wintertime certainly feels like it's here. What do we 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.319 in one hour from now. I've got a guest on 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.800 this guy I've never had on before. His name is 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.280 what did I hold on once? Pete Caldwell is his name, 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:36.000 and he is a neighbor of mine out in Anderson 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:40.520 Township and a friend, a mutual friend of ours, sent 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.520 me a narrative that he wrote about an experience he 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.760 had downtown. And I'm going to read that here in 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.360 just a moment. But before I do that, I want 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.000 to give some props. Look, I sit up here and 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.240 I'm behind this microphone, and I hammer the media all 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:02.160 the time, but I also try to point out instances 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.000 where they do things quite well. And I want to 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:11.160 give some props to WKRC Channel twelve. And I came 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.400 across the story as I was getting ready for the 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.480 show today. It came across the story that they did. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:21.000 Morella Porter is the reporter that did this story. And 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:26.440 they asked the question, why has in Cincinnati spent the 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:31.520 over thirty million dollars allocated for street repairs across the 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:37.560 city nearly two years after Cincinnati closed the one point 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:42.640 six billion dollar sale of its railway in March of 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:47.320 twenty twenty four. So they say, nearly two years. I 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.520 was going to say, if someone had told me it 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.280 had been nearly two years since that sale closed, I 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:56.040 would not have guessed that. So it was in March 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.400 of twenty twenty four. This is the end of twenty five. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.840 Is maybe a slight stretch to call it two years 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:09.160 nearly two years, maybe, but in any case, it's a 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.920 good year and a half year and ten ten months 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.760 something along those lines. It's been a while, nearly two 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.799 and a half years or two years, I should say. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.000 After Cincinnati closed it's one point six billion dollar sale 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.960 on the railway in March of twenty four, people across 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.680 the city scratching their heads. Complaints about city streets aren't 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.920 hard to find. Some areas on Queen City are of 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.520 concerned me, said Sandra Oliver. The roads out here they 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.400 broke by muffler. Half of it fell off, said Brook Logan. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.880 We need the roads saved. And they make a good point. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.320 This money that came from the railroad sale was supposed 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:55.760 to go to infrastructure. Things that like street repairs, wasn't 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:56.480 supposed to be. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:57.000 Spent on. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.080 The late you know, the hottest social program of the 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.680 day wasn't supposed to be sent on spent on virtue 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:11.800 signaling stuff like that. Although, yeah, we'll keep an eye 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.960 on the money and I wouldn't be surprised if some 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:17.040 of it winds up doing that. It's talking to Todd's 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.960 nswer the other day. He explained to me how the 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.919 hell some of that money may wind up doing things 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.920 like that. But Cincinnati's got the money to fix the road. 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.919 It's almost thirty four million allocated and available for street 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:34.080 repairs and bridges. But so far about only six percent 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.200 of the money that is there that is available, has 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:44.360 been spent on fixing roads. And they asked the question, 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:51.360 what is taking so long? Why aren't these roads being 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:58.200 fixed the money is there. Council Member Anna Alby says 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:02.560 she regularly gets comments complaints about potholes and road quality, 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.440 and people haven't seen the impact of the rail money. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.520 She says, if we can't even get the contract of 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.800 the contract sign how do we actually show residents that 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:19.280 what they took a vote on where they're spending dollars 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:20.200 is making a difference. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:22.839 The city has something. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.440 Called the on track Dashboard, and I look this up 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:30.000 and it's got a breakdown of all the money that's available. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.880 It doesn't go I mean, there's a fair amount of 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:37.039 detail there, but it doesn't really answer a lot of 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.080 questions and a lot of pie charts and stuff like 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:45.800 That city has projected received roughly fifty five million annually 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.880 from the railway cell. We ought to have roads in 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.360 Cincinnati that are just fantastic, I think with that. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:53.920 Kind of money floating around. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:59.400 So that's the kind of reporting that local TV local 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.440 news to be doing, and so big thumbs up to 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:08.320 Channel twelve on that one for reporting that story. Now 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:12.920 to this piece that was sent to me and written 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:21.800 by Pete Caldwell, and this really points out it gives 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.760 you a real life example of what happens in downtown 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:30.520 Cincinnati as a result of the kind of leadership that 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:37.680 we have in downtown Cincinnati and in Hamilton County. And 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.279 Pete Caldwell writes, I haven't seen or heard any media 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:45.120 mention of a shooting that occurred Tuesday night around nine 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:49.240 point thirty on East McMicken near the Grant Park Playground. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.599 My family and I were at ryan Geist Brewery with 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.040 a large group of friends. My son left early about 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.359 nine thirty PM to go home to Deer Park. I 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.600 got a call a few minutes later from him. Panicked, 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:07.719 he inadvertently drove through a shootout on East McMicken among 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.400 what appeared to be local marauding criminal elements who infest 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.200 the area. He was surprised by the loud noise of 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.800 the guns, which were fired from an intersection as he 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.080 drove by, and the shaking of his car with the 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.920 impact of the bullets. He heard ten to fifteen shots 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:29.120 ring out, ducked his head below the dashboard, drove on 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.120 a couple of blocks before pulling over to assess the situation. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:38.240 He found no holes in his person, but found four 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.200 bullet holes in the side of his car at driver height, 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:46.440 about three feet apart. One exploded his side view mirror 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.360 right by his head. Had him in driving a one 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:56.480 one hundredth of a second faster or slower, he might 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.920 have likely caught a bullet to the torso or the 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:03.160 head and would have joined a growing list of victims 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:09.120 of downtown crime. Cops swarm the area. Police took his 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:13.280 report after the chaos died down. He was very helpful 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.160 and professional of the police. Where I should say I 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:22.840 should just be happy that he was spared through the 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.360 hand of providence or lady luck, but I find myself 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.080 a day later filled with anger and frustration. The cops 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.000 at the crime scene admit that all they can do 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:37.120 to try to catch these slugs and criminals. That's all 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.560 they can do, is try to catch these slugs and criminals. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.800 But the judges, who don't live in these areas keep 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:48.479 letting them back out of jail with little or no consequence. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:54.160 As usual, these perpetrators all scurry into the dark escape 0:08:54.200 --> 0:09:00.200 apprehension and no one sees anything. This comes on the 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.800 tale of my daughter getting her car shot up in 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.200 another gunfight while parked in front of the Aaron Off 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.520 Center back in June June twenty third, in which a 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:12.240 woman was shot in the middle of the street. That 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.760 one was later in the evening around two am, so 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.880 police were slow and hardly responded, waiting until the gangsters 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.480 had fled, and so not to have to waste their 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:26.760 time capturing, arresting, and risking their lives and careers should 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:32.040 a violent criminal decide to resist. The mayor and council 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.839 have obviously decided to do whatever they can to prevent 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:40.120 riots and the subsequent expensive settlement cases. But police have 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.160 amazing video of the whole thing, which never was shown 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:49.160 by media, and then he says you should public records request. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:54.600 A couple of months after that, September, fifteenth to ten 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.640 to twelve year old kids brazenly followed the same daughter 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:02.440 into a bar on Walnut Street where she worked. She 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.959 was sprayed in her eyes from close range with a 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:09.199 mace pepper spray. No use chasing them down the street, 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:14.480 especially when blind and boogered up. They're just kids and 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.559 everyone knows that they're immune to consequences. Of course, I'm 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.120 angry with these animals that are allowed to perpetrate crime 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:26.199 and violence at increasing rates, But I'm also disgusted at 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.199 the ignorant voters who keep electing these soft on crime 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.240 judges and politicians, and the media who only covers the 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:37.480 stories after they get broadcast on social media by citizens, 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:42.959 mayor perval, the city manager, city council, the pseudo government 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:47.840 organizations like three CDC have tried their hardest to hide 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:53.120 the reality of the violence and crime downtown. People who 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.920 have no ability to vote in the city, but who 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.200 have long kept it alive with their patronage and spending 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.960 a voting the only way they can with their feet 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:09.760 and wallets which we'll be walking, eating, and drinking elsewhere. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.640 My family, as Anderson townshippers, have heeded the call of 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.199 the media, city leadership and the people who went downtown 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:23.080 to succeed, and have often led our left our suburban 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:28.400 neighborhoods where free parking, safe restaurants and entertainment establishments abound, 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.040 and driven downtown two over the rhine to help keep 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:39.240 businesses alive and enjoy what was a nice city. It's 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.680 just not worth it anymore. Similarly, my daughter and son 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.520 have had to replace their car windows multiple times after 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.400 smashing grabs, just part of the privilege of living or 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.800 working in the city, which is so common that police 0:11:55.520 --> 0:12:01.400 won't even show up to take a report. The city 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:07.960 voters have spoken they value criminals more than residents, businesses, 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:15.400 and customers, and they can have it. That's Pete Caldwell 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:22.360 and everything he says, everything he writes in this narrative, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.240 you know it and I know it. It rings true. 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.680 And we have heard the frustrations from Ken Kober. We've 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.280 heard the frustrations from if you talk to police officers 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.920 who were on the street. We've heard the frustrations from 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:45.520 people who are downtown every day and in this last election, 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.040 I wrote on my social media and and this was 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.840 a day after the election, there had been another violent 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.720 incident on short Vine, and I wrote, this is what 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:04.400 the voters of Cincinnati apparently once because they vote in 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.320 the exact same members of council, they vote in the 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.640 exact same judges that do not address crime in a 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:16.160 serious way, a serious or a meaningful way. And it 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:21.960 goes on and on and on, and think about what 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:22.760 he writes here. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:25.480 But for. 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:31.760 A small change in timing, but for being a few 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.360 inches one way or a few inches the other way, 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:39.920 Like when President Trump got shot in Butler, Pennsylvania, had 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:44.720 he not turned his head, we would have seen a 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:50.000 live assassination on TV, the bullet going through his ear. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:52.880 Had he. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:14:00.600 Just been just millimeters the other way, it would have 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:05.480 been a completely different outcome. Same thing downtown. If you've 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.679 ever have you ever had a gun pointed at you 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:08.400 in anger? 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:08.760 I have. 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:16.600 That is a moment in your life that things get 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:23.200 very real in an instant, in a very quick way. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.360 Have you ever been to a building that you frequent 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:32.640 or a car and you see a bullet hole in 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:38.680 it and you know that a few hours ago or 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.400 a day before or last night, you were right there 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.160 where that bullet hole is. Now, what if you had 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.280 been standing there when that bullet came through. Those are 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.800 the kind of things that Pete Caldwell has to think about, 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.160 and his son and his daughter have to think about 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:02.720 windows busted out from smashing grabs. Look, you can't prevent 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:09.880 everyone knows you can't prevent every crime from happening. But 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.120 it has gone on for say, it has been such 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:20.080 a major issue for so long now in Cincinnati, and 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.920 the people who commit the crimes a relatively small number 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:35.480 of individuals. They know that the consequences are they're not 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.920 long term, and they don't care if it if they 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.240 have a criminal record. So some people in this world 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:49.320 just don't care. It's it's a regular part of their 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:54.400 life that they've got warrants out for their arrest, that 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:59.480 they are regularly stopped by police. They are arrested with regularity. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.320 They go into the system, they get processed through the 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:09.240 justice center, they've got legal counsel appointed for them, and 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.000 then they go in front of a judge who is 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:15.160 going to send them on their way. And it happens 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.520 again and again and again, and there are just certain 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:22.360 elements of society, certain people who that's just part of 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:29.600 their normal routine. And we've got a system in Cincinnati 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.240 that allows that to happen. But the other side of 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:37.160 that are real world consequences. People do get killed, people 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.920 do get shot, their lives are altered forever. They've got 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:46.480 property that gets damaged or destroyed. How does that affect you? 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:53.640 How does that ruin your life? How does that make 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.200 your day a miserable day, or a miserable week, or 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:02.960 a miserable month or year. So these are the real 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.680 consequences of crime. And so Pete Caldwell is going to 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.639 join me in the ten o'clock hour and we and 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.600 we'll discuss this a little bit further. Also coming up 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.000 after the news here at the bottom of the hour 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.680 is my buddy, Representative Adam Bird. I'm going to talk 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.639 about the new law that is on its way to 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:27.040 Mike the Wines, the Deak that changes the marijuana policy 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.840 in the state of Ohio. I really don't have a 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.800 dog in this fight, but maybe you do. So what's 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.920 the deal with the with the you know, with the 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:41.200 new the weed law. We'll talk to that and Bird 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.960 about that as we roll on till midnight tonight on 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.639 the Thursday night edition of The Midweek Crisis. Here on 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.800 seven hundred WLW. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:55.679 Right back on the Big Ones. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.479 Seven hundred W l W nine, We rolled till midnight 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.880 to night on the Thursday night edition of The Midweek Crisis. 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.360 And Ohio wallmakers have sent a bill to Governor Mike 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.080 DeWine that creates a whole bunch of new criminal offenses, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:15.200 from buying weed in Michigan to smoking in public areas. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.480 And here to talk about that, because look, I really 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.960 don't know that much about marijuana laws. I don't know 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:26.600 much about marijuana in general. And State Representative Adam Bird 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.040 of Claremont County and New Richmond is here, and Adam Bird, 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:31.240 great to have you back on the show. 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:35.159 How you doing, Dan, It's great to be with you. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.600 It's to be with you. And that introduction was interesting 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.320 because it sounded like you were going to introduce me 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.960 as an expert on marijuana, and well, that's not the 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.960 way typically someone would. I'm not an expert, but I 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.199 do know what I do know about the law we 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:51.680 just passed. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.600 Have you guys been talking a lot about marijuana up 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.240 there and up the Columbus. So I hope you hope 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.920 you know a little something about it. But why do 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.879 why did we need to have changes to the to 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.920 the marijuana laws that we have in Ohio to begin with? 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.080 Well, that's that's the right question right there, Dan, And 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.800 it's it's because we were the wild wild West here 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.040 in Ohio for so long. And and as you know, 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.920 when when a ballot initiative issue to a couple of 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.199 years ago gets put on the ballot, who do you 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.600 think writes the language for that issue to language, it's 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:27.359 the motors boat on. 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:31.840 It's not lawmakers, No, probably some lobbying group. Probably some group, 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.520 the you know, pro marijuana sales lobbying group. 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:36.399 I guess I don't know. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.920 It's a lobbying group that represents big marijuana. They're the 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.040 kinds of that. They they're the ones who write that language. 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.040 So there's a lot of language in there that most 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.840 Ohioans don't really want. Now, Uh, most Ohioands, I think 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:52.880 when they go into the ballot box, they don't really 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.720 read all of it, but they do know generally that 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.000 this says, I can you know that we're going to 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.359 legalize marijuana? So they've oh, yes, if that's what they feel. 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.600 They don't realize everything that's in there that has been 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.399 put in there by the big, big marijuana lobby. So 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.840 you know, at this point it's on us to make 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:15.080 some common sense changes to protect children and to protect communities, 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:20.080 to protect employers, to protect you know, neighbors and so forth, 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:23.320 and so you know we're going to go. So why 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.159 didn't we do this two years ago? Well, because we 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.879 wanted to take some time to listen to constituents, and 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.800 in the end we were struggling dan to get the 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.080 right Now, we need fifty votes for something to pass 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.800 in the House, we need seventeen votes for something to 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.080 pass in the Senate, and it was taking a while 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.639 for us to get agreement with that many people to 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:46.200 take something pass. 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.280 So the first line in this story that was written 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:53.480 by Morgan Trowell and it was posted by Channel nine 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.600 on their website. The first line of this story says, 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.720 lawmakers sent the bill changing marijuana policy to government, the 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.399 govern it or Mike the Wines desk, creating a slew 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.960 of new criminal offenses from buying weed in Michigan. Is 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:09.159 it illegal from for people in Ohio to go to 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:13.040 Michigan and and buy marijuana and buy weed in Michigan? 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:14.080 Is that illegal? Now? 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:15.639 It will be? 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:16.000 Now? 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:17.680 Why is that illegal? 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:18.240 Now? 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:22.800 Do they do they have medicinal marijuana in Michigan recreational 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:23.320 or what? 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:24.320 What? 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:24.359 What? 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.040 Tell tell me why? That's? I mean? 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.480 Can you go to Michigan and buy weed there and 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.399 smoke it there? Or you cannot bring it across state lines? 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:34.600 What? What's the deal there? 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:35.679 That? 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.560 The deal is that before you could do that, Okay, 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.480 even under before Issue TO you could do that. After 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:46.000 Issue TO you could do that. And and now that 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.440 we have passed Issue TO and signed by the governor, 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:54.960 you know, it's going to incentivize some to bypass this 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:59.280 law and go to Michigan to buy it cheaper than 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:00.119 you could buy it. 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.800 So you can buy it cheaper in Michigan than you 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:04.680 can in Ohio. 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:10.800 That's correct, and it's it's often much cheaper. And and 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.359 so they were trying to, you know, make sure that 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:18.240 people weren't going to bypass the law that that we 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.879 have here in Ohio. And and of course, uh I 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:24.600 think you know, although Mike Dwine that our governor and 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:28.080 I might not agree on everything, we certainly agree I 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:31.200 think on efforts to protect children and protect families, which 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:34.280 is what you know this bill is all about. We 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.679 want to make sure that we're protecting them because we 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:40.320 we were certainly in an area where we were not 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:43.040 protecting children. If you go to a red game and 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.640 you're smelling marijuana, that's that's not a family friendly environment. 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.400 And if you're if you're you know, I smell, I 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:49.959 smell one. 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:54.760 I smell marijuana now everywhere I go. I mean, I mean, 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:57.719 is it is it just me? I mean I smell it. 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:02.120 I can't go anywhere, but actually downtown, if I go downtown, 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:03.520 I mean I'm smelling dope. 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:04.160 I'm smelling. 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.000 If I go to the store and people walk, I 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.520 can smell people walking by and the obviously they've been partaking. 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:13.760 I mean it's uh, I don't know. It seems like 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.720 it's very very prevalent anywhere you go now. And I mean, 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.199 I look, I don't know if I don't know if 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.720 that's good or bad. I don't know if it's legal 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:27.520 or illegal. I don't I if I just to my 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.480 way of thinking, if you're an adult and you want 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:35.199 to use marijuana, then that's on you. Uh, you know, 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:39.440 don't don't don't drive under the influence, operate heavy machinery, 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.800 don't endanger anybody else, keep it away from the kids. 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.240 And that that's Uh, I don't know, I feel like that. 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.480 I felt that same way before this whole issue became 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:51.080 an issue. 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:52.159 I don't know. 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.240 Yeah, I mean, you make some good points there, Dan, 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:56.840 but but I wouldn't use the city of Cincinnati as 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:58.960 then a good example of whether law is going to 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:02.240 be a felt or not, because I think a lot 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:05.560 of picking and choosing by law enforcement in the city limits. 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:09.159 Hey, Cincinnati, we pay, we pay. What what do you 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.680 think about that? About this this settlement that the city 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:17.040 of Cincinnati just approved eight point two eight point one 0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.760 million dollars two million dollars, two million dollars plus for 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:26.000 the lawyers, and then the these individuals who were here, uh, 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:31.680 breaking the curfew, not obeying police, causing causing problems in 0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:35.240 the street. They claimed that, you know, anyone who engaged 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:38.040 in breaking a window or property damage or anything like 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.200 that is not going to be part of the settlement. 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.199 But the whole notion, what kind of message does that 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:46.880 send that these individuals came into the city of Cincinnati 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.440 did what they did, and then even though it's it's 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.160 four years after the fact, they're going to go ahead 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.840 and get a ten thousand or a twelve thousand dollars winfall. 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.639 You know. I mean elections have concert and to stand. 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:03.560 We know that. And when you elect people that uh, 0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.000 you know, allow soft on crime kind of policies or 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.680 turn the other way and look or cash lists, bail 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.879 or whatever the case might be. Uh, what does that do? 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:17.160