1 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Oh, another big night on seven hundred WLW. Three hours 2 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: of live radio coming your way five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: eight hundred the Big One. If you want to get 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: on board, I'm Dan Carroll. We call this the Thursday 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: night edition of the Midweek Crisis, and Joe Waddell is 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: running the big board in the seven hundred WLW command center, 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: so I want to thank him for that. Where do 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: we start tonight? Snow is moving in. If you're out there, 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: you're driving around, maybe you're driving in that snow and 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: you want to pass along some road conditions. I would 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: be more than happy to hear about that. Hear how 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: things are going out there. I know I left here 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: last night. Joe Wadell, how was your drive home last night? 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: Little tricky? Yeah, that snow is coming down last night, 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: probably the same thing heading home tonight. You know, you 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: gotta be uh, you got to be realistic about your 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: ability to drive in the snow sometimes. And then we 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: might be in for one of those days tomorrow talking 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: about three and a half four inches on the ground, 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: So we will see what happens. Wintertime is not wintertime yet, 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: but wintertime certainly feels like it's here. What do we 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: in one hour from now. I've got a guest on 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: this guy I've never had on before. His name is 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: what did I hold on once? Pete Caldwell is his name, 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: and he is a neighbor of mine out in Anderson 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Township and a friend, a mutual friend of ours, sent 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: me a narrative that he wrote about an experience he 28 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: had downtown. And I'm going to read that here in 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: just a moment. But before I do that, I want 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: to give some props. Look, I sit up here and 31 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm behind this microphone, and I hammer the media all 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: the time, but I also try to point out instances 33 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: where they do things quite well. And I want to 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: give some props to WKRC Channel twelve. And I came 35 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: across the story as I was getting ready for the 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: show today. It came across the story that they did. 37 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Morella Porter is the reporter that did this story. And 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: they asked the question, why has in Cincinnati spent the 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: over thirty million dollars allocated for street repairs across the 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: city nearly two years after Cincinnati closed the one point 41 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: six billion dollar sale of its railway in March of 42 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So they say, nearly two years. I 43 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: was going to say, if someone had told me it 44 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: had been nearly two years since that sale closed, I 45 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: would not have guessed that. So it was in March 46 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. This is the end of twenty five. 47 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Is maybe a slight stretch to call it two years 48 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: nearly two years, maybe, but in any case, it's a 49 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: good year and a half year and ten ten months 50 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: something along those lines. It's been a while, nearly two 51 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: and a half years or two years, I should say. 52 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: After Cincinnati closed it's one point six billion dollar sale 53 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: on the railway in March of twenty four, people across 54 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: the city scratching their heads. Complaints about city streets aren't 55 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: hard to find. Some areas on Queen City are of 56 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: concerned me, said Sandra Oliver. The roads out here they 57 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: broke by muffler. Half of it fell off, said Brook Logan. 58 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: We need the roads saved. And they make a good point. 59 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: This money that came from the railroad sale was supposed 60 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: to go to infrastructure. Things that like street repairs, wasn't 61 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be. 62 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: Spent on. 63 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: The late you know, the hottest social program of the 64 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: day wasn't supposed to be sent on spent on virtue 65 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: signaling stuff like that. Although, yeah, we'll keep an eye 66 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: on the money and I wouldn't be surprised if some 67 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: of it winds up doing that. It's talking to Todd's 68 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: nswer the other day. He explained to me how the 69 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: hell some of that money may wind up doing things 70 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: like that. But Cincinnati's got the money to fix the road. 71 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: It's almost thirty four million allocated and available for street 72 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: repairs and bridges. But so far about only six percent 73 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: of the money that is there that is available, has 74 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: been spent on fixing roads. And they asked the question, 75 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: what is taking so long? Why aren't these roads being 76 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: fixed the money is there. Council Member Anna Alby says 77 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: she regularly gets comments complaints about potholes and road quality, 78 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: and people haven't seen the impact of the rail money. 79 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: She says, if we can't even get the contract of 80 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: the contract sign how do we actually show residents that 81 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: what they took a vote on where they're spending dollars 82 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: is making a difference. 83 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: The city has something. 84 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: Called the on track Dashboard, and I look this up 85 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: and it's got a breakdown of all the money that's available. 86 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't go I mean, there's a fair amount of 87 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: detail there, but it doesn't really answer a lot of 88 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: questions and a lot of pie charts and stuff like 89 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: That city has projected received roughly fifty five million annually 90 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: from the railway cell. We ought to have roads in 91 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: Cincinnati that are just fantastic, I think with that. 92 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: Kind of money floating around. 93 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: So that's the kind of reporting that local TV local 94 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: news to be doing, and so big thumbs up to 95 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: Channel twelve on that one for reporting that story. Now 96 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: to this piece that was sent to me and written 97 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: by Pete Caldwell, and this really points out it gives 98 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: you a real life example of what happens in downtown 99 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: Cincinnati as a result of the kind of leadership that 100 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: we have in downtown Cincinnati and in Hamilton County. And 101 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Pete Caldwell writes, I haven't seen or heard any media 102 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: mention of a shooting that occurred Tuesday night around nine 103 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: point thirty on East McMicken near the Grant Park Playground. 104 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: My family and I were at ryan Geist Brewery with 105 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: a large group of friends. My son left early about 106 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: nine thirty PM to go home to Deer Park. I 107 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: got a call a few minutes later from him. Panicked, 108 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: he inadvertently drove through a shootout on East McMicken among 109 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: what appeared to be local marauding criminal elements who infest 110 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: the area. He was surprised by the loud noise of 111 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: the guns, which were fired from an intersection as he 112 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: drove by, and the shaking of his car with the 113 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: impact of the bullets. He heard ten to fifteen shots 114 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: ring out, ducked his head below the dashboard, drove on 115 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: a couple of blocks before pulling over to assess the situation. 116 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: He found no holes in his person, but found four 117 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: bullet holes in the side of his car at driver height, 118 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: about three feet apart. One exploded his side view mirror 119 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: right by his head. Had him in driving a one 120 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: one hundredth of a second faster or slower, he might 121 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: have likely caught a bullet to the torso or the 122 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: head and would have joined a growing list of victims 123 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: of downtown crime. Cops swarm the area. Police took his 124 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: report after the chaos died down. He was very helpful 125 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: and professional of the police. Where I should say I 126 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: should just be happy that he was spared through the 127 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: hand of providence or lady luck, but I find myself 128 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: a day later filled with anger and frustration. The cops 129 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: at the crime scene admit that all they can do 130 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: to try to catch these slugs and criminals. That's all 131 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: they can do, is try to catch these slugs and criminals. 132 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: But the judges, who don't live in these areas keep 133 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:48,479 Speaker 1: letting them back out of jail with little or no consequence. 134 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: As usual, these perpetrators all scurry into the dark escape 135 00:08:54,200 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: apprehension and no one sees anything. This comes on the 136 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: tale of my daughter getting her car shot up in 137 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: another gunfight while parked in front of the Aaron Off 138 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: Center back in June June twenty third, in which a 139 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: woman was shot in the middle of the street. That 140 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: one was later in the evening around two am, so 141 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: police were slow and hardly responded, waiting until the gangsters 142 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: had fled, and so not to have to waste their 143 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: time capturing, arresting, and risking their lives and careers should 144 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: a violent criminal decide to resist. The mayor and council 145 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: have obviously decided to do whatever they can to prevent 146 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: riots and the subsequent expensive settlement cases. But police have 147 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: amazing video of the whole thing, which never was shown 148 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: by media, and then he says you should public records request. 149 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: A couple of months after that, September, fifteenth to ten 150 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: to twelve year old kids brazenly followed the same daughter 151 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: into a bar on Walnut Street where she worked. She 152 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: was sprayed in her eyes from close range with a 153 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: mace pepper spray. No use chasing them down the street, 154 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: especially when blind and boogered up. They're just kids and 155 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: everyone knows that they're immune to consequences. Of course, I'm 156 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: angry with these animals that are allowed to perpetrate crime 157 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: and violence at increasing rates, But I'm also disgusted at 158 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: the ignorant voters who keep electing these soft on crime 159 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: judges and politicians, and the media who only covers the 160 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: stories after they get broadcast on social media by citizens, 161 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: mayor perval, the city manager, city council, the pseudo government 162 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: organizations like three CDC have tried their hardest to hide 163 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: the reality of the violence and crime downtown. People who 164 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: have no ability to vote in the city, but who 165 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: have long kept it alive with their patronage and spending 166 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: a voting the only way they can with their feet 167 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: and wallets which we'll be walking, eating, and drinking elsewhere. 168 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: My family, as Anderson townshippers, have heeded the call of 169 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: the media, city leadership and the people who went downtown 170 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: to succeed, and have often led our left our suburban 171 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: neighborhoods where free parking, safe restaurants and entertainment establishments abound, 172 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: and driven downtown two over the rhine to help keep 173 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: businesses alive and enjoy what was a nice city. It's 174 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: just not worth it anymore. Similarly, my daughter and son 175 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: have had to replace their car windows multiple times after 176 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: smashing grabs, just part of the privilege of living or 177 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: working in the city, which is so common that police 178 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: won't even show up to take a report. The city 179 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: voters have spoken they value criminals more than residents, businesses, 180 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: and customers, and they can have it. That's Pete Caldwell 181 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: and everything he says, everything he writes in this narrative, 182 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: you know it and I know it. It rings true. 183 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: And we have heard the frustrations from Ken Kober. We've 184 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: heard the frustrations from if you talk to police officers 185 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: who were on the street. We've heard the frustrations from 186 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: people who are downtown every day and in this last election, 187 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: I wrote on my social media and and this was 188 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: a day after the election, there had been another violent 189 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: incident on short Vine, and I wrote, this is what 190 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: the voters of Cincinnati apparently once because they vote in 191 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: the exact same members of council, they vote in the 192 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: exact same judges that do not address crime in a 193 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: serious way, a serious or a meaningful way. And it 194 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: goes on and on and on, and think about what 195 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: he writes here. 196 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: But for. 197 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: A small change in timing, but for being a few 198 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: inches one way or a few inches the other way, 199 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: Like when President Trump got shot in Butler, Pennsylvania, had 200 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: he not turned his head, we would have seen a 201 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: live assassination on TV, the bullet going through his ear. 202 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: Had he. 203 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: Just been just millimeters the other way, it would have 204 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: been a completely different outcome. Same thing downtown. If you've 205 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: ever have you ever had a gun pointed at you 206 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: in anger? 207 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: I have. 208 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: That is a moment in your life that things get 209 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: very real in an instant, in a very quick way. 210 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a building that you frequent 211 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: or a car and you see a bullet hole in 212 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: it and you know that a few hours ago or 213 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: a day before or last night, you were right there 214 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: where that bullet hole is. Now, what if you had 215 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: been standing there when that bullet came through. Those are 216 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: the kind of things that Pete Caldwell has to think about, 217 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: and his son and his daughter have to think about 218 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: windows busted out from smashing grabs. Look, you can't prevent 219 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: everyone knows you can't prevent every crime from happening. But 220 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: it has gone on for say, it has been such 221 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: a major issue for so long now in Cincinnati, and 222 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: the people who commit the crimes a relatively small number 223 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: of individuals. They know that the consequences are they're not 224 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: long term, and they don't care if it if they 225 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: have a criminal record. So some people in this world 226 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: just don't care. It's it's a regular part of their 227 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: life that they've got warrants out for their arrest, that 228 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: they are regularly stopped by police. They are arrested with regularity. 229 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: They go into the system, they get processed through the 230 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: justice center, they've got legal counsel appointed for them, and 231 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: then they go in front of a judge who is 232 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: going to send them on their way. And it happens 233 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: again and again and again, and there are just certain 234 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: elements of society, certain people who that's just part of 235 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: their normal routine. And we've got a system in Cincinnati 236 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: that allows that to happen. But the other side of 237 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: that are real world consequences. People do get killed, people 238 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: do get shot, their lives are altered forever. They've got 239 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: property that gets damaged or destroyed. How does that affect you? 240 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: How does that ruin your life? How does that make 241 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: your day a miserable day, or a miserable week, or 242 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: a miserable month or year. So these are the real 243 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: consequences of crime. And so Pete Caldwell is going to 244 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: join me in the ten o'clock hour and we and 245 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: we'll discuss this a little bit further. Also coming up 246 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: after the news here at the bottom of the hour 247 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: is my buddy, Representative Adam Bird. I'm going to talk 248 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: about the new law that is on its way to 249 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: Mike the Wines, the Deak that changes the marijuana policy 250 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio. I really don't have a 251 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: dog in this fight, but maybe you do. So what's 252 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: the deal with the with the you know, with the 253 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: new the weed law. We'll talk to that and Bird 254 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: about that as we roll on till midnight tonight on 255 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: the Thursday night edition of The Midweek Crisis. Here on 256 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. 257 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: Right back on the Big Ones. 258 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: Seven hundred W l W nine, We rolled till midnight 259 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: to night on the Thursday night edition of The Midweek Crisis. 260 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: And Ohio wallmakers have sent a bill to Governor Mike 261 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: DeWine that creates a whole bunch of new criminal offenses, 262 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: from buying weed in Michigan to smoking in public areas. 263 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: And here to talk about that, because look, I really 264 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: don't know that much about marijuana laws. I don't know 265 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: much about marijuana in general. And State Representative Adam Bird 266 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: of Claremont County and New Richmond is here, and Adam Bird, 267 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: great to have you back on the show. 268 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 4: How you doing, Dan, It's great to be with you. 269 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 4: It's to be with you. And that introduction was interesting 270 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 4: because it sounded like you were going to introduce me 271 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: as an expert on marijuana, and well, that's not the 272 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 4: way typically someone would. I'm not an expert, but I 273 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 4: do know what I do know about the law we 274 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 4: just passed. 275 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: Have you guys been talking a lot about marijuana up 276 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: there and up the Columbus. So I hope you hope 277 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: you know a little something about it. But why do 278 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: why did we need to have changes to the to 279 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: the marijuana laws that we have in Ohio to begin with? 280 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the right question right there, Dan, And 281 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: it's it's because we were the wild wild West here 282 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: in Ohio for so long. And and as you know, 283 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 4: when when a ballot initiative issue to a couple of 284 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 4: years ago gets put on the ballot, who do you 285 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: think writes the language for that issue to language, it's 286 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 4: the motors boat on. 287 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: It's not lawmakers, No, probably some lobbying group. Probably some group, 288 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: the you know, pro marijuana sales lobbying group. 289 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. 290 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: It's a lobbying group that represents big marijuana. They're the 291 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: kinds of that. They they're the ones who write that language. 292 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of language in there that most 293 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 4: Ohioans don't really want. Now, Uh, most Ohioands, I think 294 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 4: when they go into the ballot box, they don't really 295 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: read all of it, but they do know generally that 296 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: this says, I can you know that we're going to 297 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: legalize marijuana? So they've oh, yes, if that's what they feel. 298 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 4: They don't realize everything that's in there that has been 299 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 4: put in there by the big, big marijuana lobby. So 300 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: you know, at this point it's on us to make 301 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: some common sense changes to protect children and to protect communities, 302 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: to protect employers, to protect you know, neighbors and so forth, 303 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 4: and so you know we're going to go. So why 304 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 4: didn't we do this two years ago? Well, because we 305 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: wanted to take some time to listen to constituents, and 306 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: in the end we were struggling dan to get the 307 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: right Now, we need fifty votes for something to pass 308 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: in the House, we need seventeen votes for something to 309 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: pass in the Senate, and it was taking a while 310 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: for us to get agreement with that many people to 311 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 4: take something pass. 312 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: So the first line in this story that was written 313 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: by Morgan Trowell and it was posted by Channel nine 314 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: on their website. The first line of this story says, 315 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: lawmakers sent the bill changing marijuana policy to government, the 316 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: govern it or Mike the Wines desk, creating a slew 317 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: of new criminal offenses from buying weed in Michigan. Is 318 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: it illegal from for people in Ohio to go to 319 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: Michigan and and buy marijuana and buy weed in Michigan? 320 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: Is that illegal? Now? 321 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 4: It will be? 322 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: Now? 323 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: Why is that illegal? 324 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 5: Now? 325 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: Do they do they have medicinal marijuana in Michigan recreational 326 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: or what? 327 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: What? 328 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 6: What? 329 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: Tell tell me why? That's? I mean? 330 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: Can you go to Michigan and buy weed there and 331 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: smoke it there? Or you cannot bring it across state lines? 332 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: What? What's the deal there? 333 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 5: That? 334 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: The deal is that before you could do that, Okay, 335 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 4: even under before Issue TO you could do that. After 336 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: Issue TO you could do that. And and now that 337 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 4: we have passed Issue TO and signed by the governor, 338 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: you know, it's going to incentivize some to bypass this 339 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: law and go to Michigan to buy it cheaper than 340 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 4: you could buy it. 341 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: So you can buy it cheaper in Michigan than you 342 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: can in Ohio. 343 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: That's correct, and it's it's often much cheaper. And and 344 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 4: so they were trying to, you know, make sure that 345 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: people weren't going to bypass the law that that we 346 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: have here in Ohio. And and of course, uh I 347 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: think you know, although Mike Dwine that our governor and 348 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: I might not agree on everything, we certainly agree I 349 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: think on efforts to protect children and protect families, which 350 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: is what you know this bill is all about. We 351 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 4: want to make sure that we're protecting them because we 352 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: we were certainly in an area where we were not 353 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 4: protecting children. If you go to a red game and 354 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 4: you're smelling marijuana, that's that's not a family friendly environment. 355 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 4: And if you're if you're you know, I smell, I 356 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 4: smell one. 357 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: I smell marijuana now everywhere I go. I mean, I mean, 358 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: is it is it just me? I mean I smell it. 359 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: I can't go anywhere, but actually downtown, if I go downtown, 360 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean I'm smelling dope. 361 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm smelling. 362 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: If I go to the store and people walk, I 363 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: can smell people walking by and the obviously they've been partaking. 364 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's uh, I don't know. It seems like 365 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: it's very very prevalent anywhere you go now. And I mean, 366 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: I look, I don't know if I don't know if 367 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: that's good or bad. I don't know if it's legal 368 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: or illegal. I don't I if I just to my 369 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: way of thinking, if you're an adult and you want 370 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: to use marijuana, then that's on you. Uh, you know, 371 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: don't don't don't drive under the influence, operate heavy machinery, 372 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: don't endanger anybody else, keep it away from the kids. 373 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: And that that's Uh, I don't know, I feel like that. 374 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: I felt that same way before this whole issue became 375 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: an issue. 376 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 2: I don't know. 377 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you make some good points there, Dan, 378 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: but but I wouldn't use the city of Cincinnati as 379 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: then a good example of whether law is going to 380 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: be a felt or not, because I think a lot 381 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: of picking and choosing by law enforcement in the city limits. 382 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: Hey, Cincinnati, we pay, we pay. What what do you 383 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: think about that? About this this settlement that the city 384 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati just approved eight point two eight point one 385 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: million dollars two million dollars, two million dollars plus for 386 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: the lawyers, and then the these individuals who were here, uh, 387 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: breaking the curfew, not obeying police, causing causing problems in 388 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: the street. They claimed that, you know, anyone who engaged 389 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: in breaking a window or property damage or anything like 390 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: that is not going to be part of the settlement. 391 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: But the whole notion, what kind of message does that 392 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: send that these individuals came into the city of Cincinnati 393 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: did what they did, and then even though it's it's 394 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: four years after the fact, they're going to go ahead 395 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: and get a ten thousand or a twelve thousand dollars winfall. 396 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 4: You know. I mean elections have concert and to stand. 397 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: We know that. And when you elect people that uh, 398 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 4: you know, allow soft on crime kind of policies or 399 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 4: turn the other way and look or cash lists, bail 400 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 4: or whatever the case might be. Uh, what does that do? 401 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 4: That incentivizes people and businesses, by the way, who want 402 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 4: a society where the walls are enforced. It encourages them 403 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: to move away, and it encourages your police officers to say, 404 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 4: you know, forget this. I'm going to go find a 405 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 4: job in Claremont County, Warren County, Butler County, and I'm 406 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 4: going to go work for a place and respect the law. 407 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 408 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: No, kid, So here in Ohio we've got uh, we've 409 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: got legalized marijuana, We've got legalized gambling. What's going to 410 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: be next? Are we going to legalize prostitution? We're going 411 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: to legalize some other vices. I mean what it seems 412 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: like everything everything that that was illegal when I was 413 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: a kid growing up and you couldn't do is legal now. 414 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: And and well yeah, cigarettes. We pretty much outlawed cigarettes everywhere. 415 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere. 416 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you you bring on some really good 417 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 4: points stand and it is frustrating at times, but you know, 418 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 4: we had to pass these laws to bring on marijuana 419 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: and hemp because you know, these hemp products were being 420 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 4: sold to children and we had to bring some regulation 421 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: to that. And now you you know, you can still 422 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: buy a hemp drink, but you have to do it. 423 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 4: You can't sell it to someone under the age of 424 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: twenty one, and it has to be in a MARI 425 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: licensed marijuana store and you can't just sell it out 426 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 4: of a convenience mart like you could before. And we 427 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: just had a wild, wild rest situation because of you know, 428 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: it changed that the federal government in May back in 429 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 4: twenty and eighteen when they accidentally put hemp and language 430 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: to allow it. And so you know, we we've we've 431 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 4: been in that situation. We're finally getting around to controlling it. 432 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what is your sense of I guess the 433 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: the illegal marijuana market is is does that still exist 434 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: with the laws we I've not I've really not paid 435 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: much attention to this at all, but you know, those 436 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: people who might seek to sell marijuana, you know, illegally 437 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: on the street corner, that sort of thing. Uh, you know, 438 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 1: have the you know, grow their own or sell their 439 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: own outside of the legal avenues that we have to 440 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: sell it. Now, what's your sense of the black market 441 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: that we have here in Ohio? And when it comes 442 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: to marijuana sales. 443 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 4: Well, then, unfortunately, I have no idea about the black market. 444 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 4: I I I don't use it. I don't know anything 445 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 4: about it, and I don't even I don't even know 446 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 4: if I know anybody who does. And it's I just 447 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: I don't know abouch about that. But I can tell 448 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: you that that you know, we the issue too that 449 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 4: the voter's approved allow for you to grow a couple 450 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 4: of plants in your own house. It also, the world 451 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 4: that we just passed allows landlords to ban marijuana smoking 452 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 4: and vaping and growing on their property if they want, 453 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 4: and and it forbids people from growing and cultivating on 454 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: behalf of other people. And it's interesting here too. We 455 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: also we prohibited people who are fired for marijuana use 456 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 4: from obtaining state unemployment benefit. So, in other words, the 457 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: law of Ohio might say you can use marijuana, but 458 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 4: your employer can still say no, no, no, not not 459 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: here at work and not under the influence here at work. 460 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. 461 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: Well, at least I think businesses should be able to 462 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: have that, uh, that ability to do that. So I 463 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: think that's a good thing. Let me ask you about 464 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: another another issue. Agriculture is still the number one industry 465 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio and twenty four billion dollars. 466 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump just passed a twelve billion dollar aid package 467 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: for farmers, the people that you know in the agriculture community. 468 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Is this going to help them at all here in Ohio? 469 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: Is this just a band aid? Is this not really 470 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: addressing whatever whatever serious issues that that farmers and those 471 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: in the agricultural community have. 472 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: Well, the Ohio Farm Bureau and the US Farm Bureau 473 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: are obviously important stakeholders and all of this, and and 474 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: many of the farmers that live in my agricultural district 475 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: deeply care about what is in that farm bill and 476 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: the what I am hearing. I know this is not 477 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 4: a good answer for you, Dan, but the Ohio Farm 478 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: Bureau is still dissecting that bill. I've had farmers call 479 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 4: me and ask me what's in it, and I'm like, well, 480 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: you know, I'm your state legislator, not your congressman. So 481 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: we are still you know, I'm still trying to understand 482 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 4: what's in there. I don't have much information on you 483 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 4: for you on that. 484 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: No, that that's okay. 485 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: I just you know, farming is big business here in Ohio, 486 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: and I don't know, and it's the I should read 487 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: more about it. I should know more about it if 488 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to I really I haven't talked about it 489 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: that much. But you got twelve billion dollar aid package 490 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: out there, and you know, farming is big business here 491 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: in Ohio, and and it just seems to me that 492 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of Ohio farmers that 493 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: that may or may not be affected by that. 494 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: And then how do you know? 495 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: Then I was going to ask, you know, how do 496 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: we get in the situation where a twelve billion dollar 497 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 1: aid package from the federal government is necessary for the 498 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: for the people farming in Ohio. 499 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know the answer to that, but I 500 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: can't speculate that there is you know, there may be 501 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: some rampifications by you know, the tariff that Trump is 502 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: putting on certain products in certain countries, and sometimes they 503 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 4: pushed back by slapping a tariff on on soybeans from Ohio. 504 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 4: And you know, so since there's since that happening limits 505 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: trade from Ohio soybeans to Canada or Africa, then those 506 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 4: countries slapped, you know, a tariff on us, and we 507 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: lose a market. So it might be something about that. 508 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: We got about a minute left, Adam Bird, what what 509 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: are you hearing from constituents as far as electric bills 510 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: and energy bills go this winter? 511 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm hearing, I am hearing a little bit about that. 512 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 4: And of course that sticker shock always comes along right now. 513 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: But remember Dan, that we passed House Bill fifteen about 514 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: seven months ago, which said we are not going to 515 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 4: provide at a state of Ohio anymore subsidies for solar, 516 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 4: for wind, for nuclear, for anything. We want the market 517 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 4: to play out and we want, you know, and we're 518 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 4: going to support in all of the above kind of 519 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 4: attitude when it comes to energy. We want natural gas, 520 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 4: we want coal, we want nuclear, solar or whatever. We 521 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: want all of that. And and so when you put 522 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 4: allow the market forces to work, sometimes they're going to 523 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 4: go up. But but I do think eventually they'll come down. 524 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: And and so you know, I hope that we are 525 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 4: putting in place policies that will will reopen you know, 526 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 4: energy producers like Vitra Energy, which owns Zambra Power Station 527 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 4: in Clarmont County. It's sitting there unused, and it's it's 528 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 4: in very good condition. And we're just you know, Vitra 529 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: Energy in Houston, Texas owns that and we need them 530 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 4: to open it back up. We need them to start 531 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 4: producing electricity again. And and and let's start employing people 532 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: from Climat County and that plan again. And we need 533 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: that to happen soon for people, and especially when data 534 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: centers coming. Yeah, we've got a lot of We've got 535 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 4: a lot of people who need that electricity, not just 536 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: homeowners but businesses. We've got Honda here, and we've got 537 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: Intel coming, and we've got andrewl and Pickaway County. So 538 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 4: a lot of good stuff happening. We need energy for 539 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 4: it though. 540 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: All Right, Adam Bird, with that, we got to run 541 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: as always, I appreciate the time, keep up the great work, 542 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: and we will be talking again before. 543 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: Too long, my friend. 544 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 4: Awesome, Thanks so much. Dan. 545 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: All Right, there you go, State Representative Adam Bird. And 546 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: the bottom line is Joe Waddell, no more driving to 547 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: Michigan to get your marijuana needs. So there you go. 548 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: Nine seven hundred WLW. 549 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: Right back on the Big. 550 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: One, seven hundred WLW ten O nine Dan Carroll till 551 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: Midnight Tonight, Thursday Night edition of The Midweek Crisis And 552 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: if you were, if you were with me at the 553 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: beginning of the show, I read you a narrative that 554 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: was written by a guy named Pete Caldwell who lives 555 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: in Anderson Township, and essentially he was telling the story 556 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: of his family. They were out at rhein Geist at 557 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: night and as his son was leaving the event preparing 558 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: to drive home, drove past the shooting that was going 559 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: on on Nick Mickon and wound up with bullet holes 560 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: in his car for his trouble. And it was a 561 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: real life lesson in what happens and how people are 562 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: affected by crime in downtown Cincinnati. We recently just had 563 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: an election where it appears the twenty eight percent of 564 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: voters who showed up are perfectly fine with the way 565 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: things are, and Pete Caldwell has graciously decided to join 566 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: us tonight to tell his story. In Pete Caldwell Great 567 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: to have you on and welcome to seven hundred WLW. 568 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 7: Hi Dan, thanks for having me. 569 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you're here. The story and I read 570 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: the narrative that our mutual friend sent to me, and 571 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: it just it just rings true in every sense that 572 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: there You know, you talk about these these marauding groups downtown, 573 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: that we've seen the video of these running gun battles 574 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: that take place in downtown Cincinnati. We we know that 575 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: there are so many random victims who either get shot 576 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: or killed when these incidents happen. We know that you 577 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: sense the frustration from the police who talked to your 578 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: son that night. He was giving them all the information 579 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: he possibly could to help them affect and arrest, and 580 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: you sense their frustration. But everything you write about this 581 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: is it just just rings with truth from every sector 582 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: that we have heard from. But but I think the 583 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: most overlooked sector of all this are people like you 584 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: and your family, the people who really are the victims 585 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: of these idiotic soft on crime policies that we've had 586 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: so long here for you know, here in Cincinnati and 587 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: here in Hamilton County. 588 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 7: I mean, we're the victims in this case here and there. 589 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 7: But in the long term, it's going to be the 590 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 7: downtown businesses that are going to continue to lose business 591 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 7: if people start realizing the reality of how rampant crime 592 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 7: is downtown. 593 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: And that's the other part that rings true to this. 594 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: You and Iron neighbors. We both live in Anderson Township, 595 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: and I can think of numerous times where I find 596 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: reasons that there's player's plenty. Look, there's all kinds of 597 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: different events that happen in downtown Cincinnati all the time, 598 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: and I can't think of any number of reasons and 599 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: any number of excuses that I can find. And it 600 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: gets easier to find excuses to not go downtown, to 601 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: not attend these events. Why bother, you know, why bother 602 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 1: with the hassle and potentially becoming a victim of crime 603 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: if you don't have to. 604 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 7: Well, we struggle with that for years. My family loved 605 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 7: going downtown. I used to like going downtown, but I 606 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 7: can't separate myself from the statistics. And I know daytime 607 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 7: is different than nighttime, but we were only down there 608 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 7: at seven PM. My son left Ryan guys at nine thirty. 609 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 7: That's not real late. And I always tell the kids, 610 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 7: you know, they're like, you know, most most crime is targeted. 611 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 7: You keep hearing the stories on the media. Most of 612 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 7: the crime is targeted usually know you're you know your assailants. 613 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 7: There's very little random violence. Well I don't agree with 614 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 7: that because my daughter works downtown and she tells me 615 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 7: all the time about these unreported stories. More shoe jings, 616 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 7: more fights, more kids running down the street, cops chasing them, 617 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 7: not than ever makes the media very rarely unless somebody, 618 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 7: you know, a citizen, captures it on their own phone, 619 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 7: puts it on social media, and that gives the media 620 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 7: sort of sort of primes the pump that they can 621 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 7: then cover story. But there's so many stories and so 622 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 7: many incidents that are unreported, they don't show up on statistics. 623 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 7: Therefore the mayor can go out there and say crime 624 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 7: can be down. Well, maybe it is. The reports are 625 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 7: down because people are reporting it. But I mean, I 626 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 7: love downtown, love going down there. That's where the nice 627 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 7: bars are, the nice restaurants. And I've always told the kids, 628 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 7: you know, still got to keep your eye open. And 629 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 7: here's the example of my son. He was not involved 630 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 7: in anything, just went through the crossfire and luckily he's 631 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 7: still find his car, still run somehow. 632 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: How has that affected him that he was that close 633 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: to becoming of well, he was a victimy the way. 634 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 1: I mean his car got hit with bullets. But has 635 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: that affected him? I mean, you know, I was talking 636 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: about this in the first segment. I've had a gun 637 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: pointed at me in anger before. I know what that 638 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: feeling is. And to realize that you were literally just 639 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: inches away or millimeters away, or had he been going 640 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, had he left the bar a minute earlier, 641 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: a minute later. I mean that sort of thing is 642 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: how's he dealing with that, that sort of reality? 643 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 7: Amazingly? Well? I asked him, I said, did you sleep well? 644 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 7: Did you go to sleep? I couldn't sleep that night, 645 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 7: Just thinking run into my mind. You know where we 646 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 7: could be tonight. We could be in the hospital, we 647 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 7: could be playing funerals. He didn't seem to be too 648 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 7: bothered by it roll off of him. But it just 649 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 7: once again, is that I've been warning these kids for years. 650 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 7: You know, something can happen down there. There's things that 651 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 7: happen that won't probably happen in airstonnship. When you get 652 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 7: down there, you're taking some risk on now. I keep 653 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 7: telling I've been using an analogy in the last couple of 654 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 7: days here of if somebody knew there was a landmine 655 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 7: or a bomb in the middle of a one hundred 656 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 7: acre park. Yeah, the odds are probably one in ten million. 657 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 7: You're going to step on it. But there's no way 658 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 7: anyone would go in that park, and there's no way 659 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 7: the government would let you go in the park. They'd 660 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 7: lock it down. But we know that the odds of 661 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 7: something bad happening, whether it's just crime minor crime mugging, 662 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 7: windows broken out, or you can catch a bullet, they're 663 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 7: much higher than that. But as part of what we're 664 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 7: considering normal. And I don't know what normal is anymore, 665 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 7: because I guess it's normal now to walk down the 666 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 7: street and smew weed. Normal to see defecation on the 667 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 7: streets down some of those areas downtown. It's normal to 668 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 7: see the panhandlers chasing down the street demanding money. Things 669 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 7: are becoming normal, and maybe random gunfire is supposed to normal. 670 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: Well, I'm like you, I would like to think that 671 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: that's not normal for downtown Cincinnati. I would like to 672 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: think that we still live in you know, we just 673 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: had a settlement that went out eight point one million 674 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 1: dollars that is going to get paid to people who 675 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: were rioting and disobeying lawful commands by police to disperse 676 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: in violation of a curfew that was put in place 677 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: by Mayor John Cranley. And I would like to think that, 678 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, we don't have those sorts of things that 679 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: go on in downtown Cincinnati. I like to think that 680 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: where we live in Anderson Township, when will you hear 681 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: crime reports? Very seldom? And I think we live in 682 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: a place where we do not want to tolerate that. 683 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: And we wouldn't put up for one minute if the 684 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: sheriff's deputies that patrol Anderson Township would just turn a 685 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: blind eye to that and let that sort of thing slide. 686 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: And I don't think law enforcement in the City of 687 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 1: Cincinnati does that, But I think we have I think 688 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: we have judges, and we have political leadership that doesn't 689 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: really want to address that in a serious way. When 690 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: when the election season was going on and Corey Bowman 691 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: was running for mayor, did you were you like me, 692 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: did you hold out hope that he might have a 693 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: chance that he was talking to people about addressing these 694 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: issues in a serious way in a meaningful way that 695 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: could just electing a new mayor isn't going to change 696 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: the outlook on crime overnight, but maybe bring a new 697 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 1: sense to city Hall and a new way of dealing 698 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: with this. Did you hold out hope that maybe he 699 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: might have a chance of breaking through and hopefully at 700 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: least be the beginning of some sort of change in 701 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: the way this issue is looked at at city Hall. 702 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 7: Well, I was hoping, and I guess I could never 703 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 7: imagine that he couldn't get more than twenty percent of 704 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 7: the vote. Yeah, but I think most of the voters 705 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 7: in Cincinnati get that little blue ticket when they get 706 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 7: to the ballot box, just go down the line checking these. 707 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: How disappointing is that though, because he because you said, 708 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're a guy that you like that, 709 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: you like coming downtown, you like what what downtown has 710 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: to offer, and now you have to seriously think twice 711 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: before you before you pull the trigger on that. 712 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 7: Well, especially since you're paying for it. I mean it 713 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 7: sort of feel a little bit of the taxation and orbitanation. 714 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 7: I mean word in Helda County, we take big taxes, 715 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 7: We have poppy taxes, we have levies going and we 716 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 7: have zoo levees, we have paying for the stadiums or 717 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 7: paying for all kinds of stuff. And you think you 718 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 7: should have a little saying things, but you really have none. 719 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 7: And I was a city worker retired from the city. 720 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 7: So I've paid this city taxes for twenty seven years. 721 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 7: And you think you have some saying, you really don't. 722 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 7: You just pay and you go down there and some 723 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 7: else does and affects the uh, the government. 724 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: So you're actually retired or from working for the city. Yes, 725 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,959 Speaker 1: WHATSD You worked for MSD for how long? 726 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 7: Twenty seven years? 727 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: Metropolitan Sewartistics. So did you were you over there in 728 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: Queen's Gate every. 729 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 7: Day, every day, all down the city every day. 730 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: In Queensgate, all around the city generally speaking, in the 731 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: time that you spent working with the city, did you 732 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: have any concerns about going out and doing your job 733 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: on a daily basis, going to different parts of the 734 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: city on a on a regular basis to do the 735 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: work you had to do. 736 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 7: You knew what areas were very dangerous, but there weren't 737 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 7: as many dangerous areas. They were pretty much defined that 738 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 7: this is an area that scen area. Maybe you bring 739 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 7: a buddy with you, just to have some extra eyes 740 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 7: on site. But I take the last last ten ten 741 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 7: to fifteen years, it changed and you never know where 742 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 7: you could go. 743 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: So you saw a change in the time that you 744 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 1: were that you were working for the city. Is there 745 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: anything that you can put your finger on that that 746 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: caused this to change? 747 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 7: Not really. I mean, I think we used to have 748 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 7: a little more of a mixed city council. We had 749 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 7: a mixed county commissioners. We have some Republicans, we have 750 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 7: some Democrats, we have some charter rights on city and 751 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 7: now it's pretty much one party, one group of one 752 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 7: way of thinking. And I mean, so many areas downtown 753 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 7: have gotten nice. So I feel I don't know if 754 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 7: I'm more mad, angry or just sad that we spent 755 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 7: so much money and product people spent so much money 756 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 7: building up these businesses in these restaurants and Bye Street 757 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 7: and Main Street, and we saw what happened in the nineties. 758 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 7: We had a beautiful Main Street did Bar district down 759 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 7: there that came up mostly prod of money. Was a 760 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 7: very little government involvement. That's sort of before the v 761 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,919 Speaker 7: CDC people got involved, and it was a great place 762 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 7: to go. It was a little dangerous on the outskirts, 763 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 7: but you felt like you were Low Island and there's 764 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 7: cops walking around. You felt some much safe and that 765 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 7: little little island. And then you know, Riot two thousand and one. 766 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 7: Riots came and I watched the police not enforced things, 767 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 7: and they were cold, not to enforce rules. And next thing, 768 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 7: you know, most of the restaurants, bars closed. Now they're 769 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 7: coming back up again a little bit little, but you 770 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 7: hate to see that kind of waste. And I'm afraid 771 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 7: we're gonna see it in Vine Street and you were 772 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 7: seeing the banks. The bank's supposed to have all this 773 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 7: great promise, and now you go down there and it's 774 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 7: not what it was five years ago. It's you know, 775 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 7: they they've affected the uh, the curfews and they don't 776 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 7: really work, and they get the little kids out, but 777 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 7: it's definitely once it gets dark, it's a much rougherreer 778 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 7: than it was imagined you know ten years ago. 779 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: Well, uh, Pete, when when you talk to other people 780 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 1: that who were your neighbors and your friends and Anderson Township, 781 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: do you get the same sort of feeling from them 782 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 1: that like I have that look if we're going to 783 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: go out and do something that Downtown's not necessarily going 784 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: to be my first choice, or my second choice or 785 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: my third choice. 786 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 7: I think everybody likes the idea of going downtown. They 787 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 7: feel a little safer about doing it during the day. 788 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 7: But I think the ideas are going down there and 789 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 7: night timing. 790 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 2: That's these days are over. 791 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 7: Most people I talk to, they're like, I want to 792 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,439 Speaker 7: not be down there after dark. 793 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're going to go downtown, maybe go to 794 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: a Reds game, go to a Bengals game, go to 795 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: an event. It's you go downtown, you go to the event, 796 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: you leave, you don't want to you don't want to 797 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 1: hang around. And that's It's a shame, isn't it. I mean, really, 798 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: it's just it's just a shame that I mean, it 799 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 1: was that crime was the number one issue during the campaign, 800 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: and we are going to be talking about, you know, tomorrow, 801 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: will be talking about hopefully they can get the roads 802 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: cleared when the snow comes. But uh, you know, we'll 803 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: be talking about crime for a long time to come 804 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: because we know that it at least in this latest 805 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: election cycle, it has not been addressed in any way. 806 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 2: That's going to make any difference. 807 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 7: Absolutely, And at least if you go down here during 808 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 7: the days on a big event day, you've got many 809 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 7: cops down there directing traffic, supporting the event, so you 810 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 7: feel definitely much safer. So you go down the evenings, 811 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 7: you might not see any cops all night. 812 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well, Pete Caldwell, did you write so 813 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: this narrative that I read here? 814 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 2: Did you write? Did you send this into the Inquirer 815 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 2: or the paper or. 816 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 7: I sent it to the Inquirer. I've stayed to a 817 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 7: couple of talk show guys. 818 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 2: Is the quire going to print to you know? 819 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 7: I receive nothing. 820 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 2: Back, so no idea, Well they should. 821 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: I think it's really I think it's really well written 822 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: and really well done. And Pete Caldwell, I appreciate you 823 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: taking the time to tell your story here on the 824 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: radio tonight. 825 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 7: Thanks for having me. 826 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 2: You're hearing it all right. 827 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 1: And I know you're an army guy. Who do you 828 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: like in the Army Navy game this weekend? 829 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 7: Definitely not to. 830 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: Pete Caldwell. 831 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for your service and uh you have a 832 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: great night and all the best to you and your family. 833 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: Great talking to you tonight. I really appreciate it, all right, 834 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: good night, all right, there you go, Pete Caldwell and 835 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this five one three, seven four nine, 836 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: seven hundred The Big One, Joe Waddell, let's go ahead 837 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: and open up the phone lines as we roll on 838 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: till midnight tonight on seven hundred WLW back on the 839 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: Big One, seven hundred WLW ten thirty eight. Want to 840 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 1: think Pete Caldwell coming on and telling his story about 841 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: being downtown, his son, the families at ryan Geist the 842 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: sun leaves, gets caught up in a a gang shooting 843 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: I guess it was. And then and his daughter who 844 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: works downtown, has had her car windows busted out, got 845 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: pepper sprayed or maced by some ten or twelve year 846 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: old kids. She's been caught up in a gunfight as well. 847 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: It is absolutely terrifying in many cases to go downtown. 848 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: People are reacting to that. Five one three seven four 849 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 1: nine seven thousand, one eight hundred The Big One. Let's 850 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: start out with JP on the west side. Then we 851 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: got Christy who also lives in Anderson Township. And then 852 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: Mark and JP. How are you tonight, hey, JP? JP 853 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: going once, JP going twice. We'll put them on hold 854 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 1: and see if we can get them to pay attention there, 855 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 1: Christy and Anderson. 856 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 6: How are you tonight, Hey, Dan, I'm great, Thanks for 857 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 6: taking my call. 858 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,399 Speaker 1: Sure. 859 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 4: Also want to. 860 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 6: Thank Pete Caldwell for making its aware of this extremely 861 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 6: concerning and ongoing violence in our city. And what are 862 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 6: the odds that both of his children have had their 863 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 6: cars shot up in recent It's just crazy to me. 864 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,760 Speaker 6: Thank god both of them are Okay. 865 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 1: It shouldn't happen it, really, I mean, it's it's ridiculous 866 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: that it happens to one of them, but they have 867 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 1: both of them get caught up in this, and his 868 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: daughter has been involved in more than one incident downtown, 869 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, it shouldn't. It shouldn't have to be 870 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: that way. How How can I mean? I used to 871 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: work downtown and I never felt like I had a 872 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: problem going down there, And you know, I never had 873 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: my car broken into, never became a victim of crime, 874 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:50,720 Speaker 1: never saw any crime. 875 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 2: But that was years ago. 876 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: If I had to do that all over again, and 877 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: given the circumstances that we have right now, I don't 878 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: know that I would want to do that. I have family, 879 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: family members who go downtown every single day, and they're 880 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: reacting to this story that we heard from Pete Caledwell, 881 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: and they're telling me that everything he said is exactly 882 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: what they experience almost on a daily basis. 883 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 6: It's frightening. And I have two adult children, one twenty one, 884 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 6: one thirty two who work downtown and in OTR and 885 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 6: I'm worried for their safety. My daughter's co worker was 886 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 6: attacked in a public restroom downtown, but she was able 887 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 6: to fight off her attacker. That happened during the day. 888 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 6: Needless to say, my daughter's company have put in safety measures. 889 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 6: They're actually making all of their employees who work within 890 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 6: the city and other cities as well, because they branch 891 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 6: out beyond Cincinnati, and they have to take a physical 892 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 6: training course, defensive training, and they have to carry math 893 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 6: and they're not allowed to use public restaurants. And you know, 894 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 6: it's imperative that we get better governance within our city 895 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 6: and we have to hold our elected officials accountable. We 896 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 6: live close to downtown, we want to feel safe, we 897 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 6: want to be able to visit downtown. 898 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: Well, the elected officials who let things get to the 899 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: state that things are in keep getting re elected, so 900 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: we you know, we look, election has Elections have consequences, 901 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: And the last time we had a vote, I think 902 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 1: it was twenty eight percent of the voters showed up 903 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: to vote, and the vast majority voted for the status quo, 904 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: keeping exactly what we have right now. And I remember 905 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 1: I put out on my social media, I said, apparently 906 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: this is what voters want. 907 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 2: They want. 908 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: They want there to be regular crime, they want there 909 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: to be in regular incidents. We hear about them on 910 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: short Vine, we hear about them downtown, we hear about 911 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: them over the Rhine, we hear about him, you know, 912 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: on the banks. Just we saw the video that was 913 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,439 Speaker 1: just a block away from from Pay Corpse Stadium where 914 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: you had the running gun battle, and so and I asked, 915 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: I remember asking Chris smitham and I said, is that 916 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,479 Speaker 1: a fair comment? He said, it's absolutely fair. 917 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 2: So well. 918 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 4: To continue on with that. 919 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:37,879 Speaker 6: These crimes that are happening, actions should have consequences, right, 920 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,760 Speaker 6: especially horrible actions. What's happening a slap on the wrist, 921 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,760 Speaker 6: and all we're getting is lip service. 922 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,280 Speaker 4: We need action. 923 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 6: We have to do better for public safety. We want 924 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 6: people to feel safe downtown. We want to visit downtown, 925 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 6: we want to support local businesses and we don't feel 926 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 6: safe doing that. I definitely do not want to go 927 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 6: downtown or to otr. 928 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: Well, all these all these judges that we have that 929 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: believe in restorative justice and all these uh, you know, 930 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of kumbay always of dealing with criminals and crime. 931 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: How we looking? How well is that getting the job done? 932 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 6: Not getting the job done? 933 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 2: Christy. I appreciate the call tonight. 934 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:21,839 Speaker 5: Thanks Dan. 935 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much. 936 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: Let's go to Montford Heiss and we'll say say hey 937 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: to Mark and then we'll try and go back to 938 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: JP Mark seven hundred WLW. 939 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 2: Hey Dan. 940 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 3: A long story and I'll try to keep the short. 941 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 3: But several several years ago, I mean, the girls always 942 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 3: heard are girls always heard about going down to their fireworks. 943 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 3: We had friends bring buckets to chicken the cooler and 944 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 3: it was just, I mean, it was fantastic. 945 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 2: It was a great time. I remember those days. It 946 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 2: was yeah. 947 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 3: And my daughter, my youngest daughter, always wanted to get 948 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 3: down to their fireworks. I said, it's not the same anyway. 949 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 3: We went down there. Long story short, gunfire breaks out, 950 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 3: We get out of there, and it was funny because 951 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 3: the blacks we thought it was fireworks. They knew it 952 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 3: was gunshots. So we took off with them and they 953 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 3: just bum rushed the gates, these ten foot ten foot gates. 954 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 2: And knock them down. 955 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 3: We ended up going the wrong way. Guy down there, 956 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 3: just the bloody mess. The guy got shot. Now coming 957 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 3: up to today, we had to go to I think 958 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 3: of wife for a friend of ours that had passed away, 959 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 3: and it was park in the Washington Park Garage, which 960 00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 3: I wasn't a big fan of, and this was kind 961 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 3: of a high profile because it was a medical professional 962 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 3: here in Cincinnati, and I thought, there's a lot of 963 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 3: money here and if they catch wind of it, you know, 964 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 3: I mean, they're going to be robbing people. 965 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 1: You know. 966 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 3: My mind is just running, and I brought my gun 967 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 3: and I told my wife, I said, if anything happens, 968 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 3: just drop to the ground. 969 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 2: I'll handle it. 970 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 3: And it shouldn't be that way. 971 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: Now, I was going to say, it's it's a shame 972 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 1: that that has to be your mindset when you are 973 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 1: attending even though it was a celebration of life downtown, 974 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,919 Speaker 1: did you feel like you have to do that when 975 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: you come downtown for any reason. It would be nice 976 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: if we lived in the city where you didn't have to. 977 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 3: Entertain that notion, and you know, and their restaurants down 978 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 3: there we would frequently go to, not not going down 979 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 3: there drinking, but they have dinner or if we have 980 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 3: out of town guests. And now you know, people coming 981 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 3: to town, they say, oh, can we go back down 982 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 3: to that place down there? And we didn't know we. 983 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 2: The best not the best idea. 984 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 1: Well, Mark, Yeah, Unfortunately, that is a feeling that is 985 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: becoming all too prevalent, especially for people like us who 986 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: do not live in the in the city limits. 987 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 2: And I appreciate your thoughts on that. 988 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the west side and say, hey 989 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: the JP JP seven hundred WLW Hey JP. All right, Joe, 990 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 1: did we try and talk to JP? I guess all right, Well, 991 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: I guess he's a JP is done for all right, JP, 992 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: We'll see you later. 993 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: You call in. You got to be more on the ball. 994 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm you know, I was talking to Pete 995 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 1: Caldwell there in that last segment, and my phone was 996 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: blowing up with people who were telling me the exact 997 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: same stories. People who work in the downtown area and 998 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: tell me how things that they've changed their ways of 999 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: doing business because of what happens. So uh, we you know, 1000 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: when we have leadership in the city of Cincinnati that 1001 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: tries to tell you everything is safe and everything is 1002 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: copasetic and it's all cool, come on down, I think 1003 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who might say otherwise, and 1004 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: it's a it's a shame that this is what we're 1005 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 1: dealing with. So uh any more thoughts on that five 1006 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 1: p One three, seven, four nine, the big one? What 1007 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: else is going on? What else is going on? Christin Um, 1008 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: who is the the Secretary of Homeland Security, was up 1009 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill today and. 1010 00:59:59,320 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean she. 1011 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: The members of Congress who were trying to make her 1012 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: look bad just showed themselves for the idiots and the 1013 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: clowns and the fools that they really are. There's a 1014 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 1: guy up there, his name is Shrie Fender and he 1015 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: is a Congressman and he was I mean, I mean 1016 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: he really is. He's an ass clown. I don't know 1017 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 1: any other way to what to describe him. He's filed 1018 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth and he was talking 1019 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 1: with Christine nom today and she wasn't taking any of 1020 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 1: his crap and Christine Noam was was on fire today 1021 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 1: and I definitely want to play some of that. So 1022 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Joe Waddell, let's get let's get the audio ready and 1023 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: if you have it there, let's hear cut number twenty one. 1024 01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Christineoam with Representative Scherie Fander on Capitol Hill today. 1025 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 8: I am sick of your lives. The American people are 1026 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 8: sick of this lies. American people demand truth. 1027 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 9: America is very happy that finally they have a president 1028 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 9: in the White House that gets up every day to 1029 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 9: keep them safe. 1030 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 8: Madam Secretary, you're incompetence and your inability to truthfully carry 1031 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 8: out your duties of Secretary of Home Land Security. If 1032 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 8: you're not fired, will you resign? 1033 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 5: Sir? 1034 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 9: I will consider you're asking me to resign as an 1035 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 9: endorsement of my work. 1036 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: This guy, this guy doesn't even know what he's talking about. 1037 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: He has no clue what he's talking about. All he's 1038 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: doing is he got some talking points from the DNC 1039 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 1: and he is literally sitting there reciting talking points, trying 1040 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: to act like he's some kind of tough guy, and 1041 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: he really is just a clown and a joke of 1042 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: a congressman. 1043 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 2: And christin Um. 1044 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Pretty much pretty much put it right back in his face. 1045 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 2: So I like that. 1046 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Here's another guy who was testifying before the committee today 1047 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 1: and we don't hear Christy Noman this one. But this 1048 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: guy's name is George Reedy's and he claims this is Look. 1049 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: The Democrats spend a lot of time preparing for this hearing, 1050 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 1: creating phony narratives and telling a bunch of fake stories 1051 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: to try and make the secretary look bad, and they 1052 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 1: did a pretty piss poor job. This guy, George Reedy's, 1053 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: got before the committee and told his sob story. 1054 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 2: Let's hear cut number twenty two. 1055 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 10: Identified myself as a US citizen and a veteran, but 1056 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 10: that didn't matter. Agents smashed my window, sprayed to your gas, 1057 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 10: and pepper sprain to my car, dragged me out. I 1058 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 10: was choking on gas, unable to breathe, while officer has 1059 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 10: shout at conflicting commands. Even after I complied, I was 1060 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 10: taken to a detention center and held for three days 1061 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 10: without charges, no phone call, no lawyer, no medical care. 1062 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 10: Even though my skin burned from the chemicals, my family 1063 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 10: had no. 1064 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 2: Idea where it was. 1065 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 10: I was released without explanation and without a single charge. I. 1066 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 1: Well, there's a guy who is lying to members of Congress. 1067 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: And thankfully Trisha McLaughlin, who is from I believe she 1068 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 1: is from Cincinnati. She is the number two person at 1069 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security, and she set the record straight 1070 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: on this guy. And so this guy, I mean, when 1071 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:52,959 Speaker 1: you are when you run into law enforcement of any type, 1072 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: do you identify yourself as I'm a veteran, so you 1073 01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 1: can't touch me. Now, Trisha McLaughlin sets the record straight. 1074 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Agents were executing criminal search warrants on July tenth at 1075 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: marijuana sites in Camarillo, California. This guy that you just 1076 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 1: heard Readi's became violent and refused to comply with law enforcement. 1077 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: That's why he was arrested. He challenged agents and blocked 1078 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 1: their route by refusing to move his vehicle out of 1079 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: the road. 1080 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 2: So this was. 1081 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 1: The criminal search warrant at marijuana growing sites in Camarillo, California. 1082 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 2: You may remember this. 1083 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: This story was on the news for I don't know 1084 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: two or three nights, and it turned out there were 1085 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 1: all kinds of children, I mean young kids, little kids 1086 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: who were working at these marijuana grows sites. These were 1087 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: kids that came in the country illegally supposed to be vetted. 1088 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: I read that article last night talking about the three 1089 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: hundred thousand and plus kids that came into the country unvetted, 1090 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 1: put with the people who just abuse them in some 1091 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 1: of the worst ways imaginable, and a lot of these 1092 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: kids turned out. We're working at these California gross sites. 1093 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: And so this guy who I you know, look, he 1094 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 1: maybe it may have been a veteran, which is perfectly fine, 1095 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: that can be true too. But just because you're a 1096 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: veteran doesn't mean you can't do something that makes you 1097 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 1: worthy of getting arrested. And according to Trisha McLaughlin, that's 1098 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 1: exactly what this guy did. He was blocking ice agents, 1099 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 1: God violent, got himself arrested, and yet he conveniently glosses 1100 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: over that when he's given this fake and phony testimony 1101 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 1: to members of Congress on Capitol Hill ten fifty four. 1102 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 1: We got to get to a break. We'll have more 1103 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: Christi nume cuts coming up on the other side, and 1104 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 1: hopefully more You're phone calls five one, three, seven, four, 1105 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 1: seven thousand, one eight hundred, the Big One as we 1106 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: roll on till midnight tonight. On the Thursday night edition 1107 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 1: of The Midweek Crisis seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW 1108 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,439 Speaker 1: eleven eight can carroll till midnight tonight Thursday Night edition 1109 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 1: of the Midweek Crisis. A DC Appeals court has uphold 1110 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 1: or upheld the Trump prohibition on trans in the military. 1111 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: Major win for Trump. Federal Appellate Court upheld the Pentagon's 1112 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: prohibition on trans identifying individuals from serving in the military 1113 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 1: two to one ruling free judge panel DC Circuit Court 1114 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: of Appeals fully palls the march injunction issued by Biden 1115 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 1: appointed district judge. Writing for the majority, Judge Gregory Catis 1116 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 1: Appoint noted how War Secretary Pete Hexth concluded that adopting 1117 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 1: a policy prohibiting gender dysphoria individuals from service would advance 1118 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 1: important military interest of combat readiness, unit cohesion, and cost control, 1119 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 1: despite the Secretary's consultation of existing data and more recent studies. 1120 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: To justify the decision, Katis wrote, the District Court nonetheless 1121 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: preliminary and join the twenty twenty five policy based on 1122 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 1: its own contrary assessment of the evidence. In our view, 1123 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 1: the court afforded insufficient deference to the Secretary's considered judgment, 1124 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: so there is some sanity in the courts out there, 1125 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 1: and that is good to know. Meanwhile, over at Health 1126 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 1: and Human Services, the Department of Health and Human Services 1127 01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 1: has altered the display information under the official portmit or 1128 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 1: portrait of Admiral Rachel Levin. The portrait has been changed 1129 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:21,719 Speaker 1: underneath to include the Admiral's real name, Richard Richard Levin 1130 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 1: is this person's real name. The portrait was recently altered. 1131 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:36,519 Speaker 1: Spokesperson for HHS confirmed digital photograph of the portrait obtained 1132 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: by MPR shows Levin's previously previous name is now type 1133 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: below the portrait. Richard R. Levin, MD and the the 1134 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 1: one time Assistant Health and Human Services Secretary, responded to this, 1135 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 1: calling it an act of let me see if I 1136 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,360 Speaker 1: can find this. I mean, what the heck did I 1137 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 1: do with that? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Of 1138 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 1: course I can't find it when I'm looking for but. 1139 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 2: Let me see. Oh, dun dun, dun, dun, dun. Let's 1140 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,639 Speaker 2: see here it is. That's not it. That's not it. 1141 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 2: That's not it. 1142 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 1: I had it right in front of me a second ago, 1143 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 1: but they they changed the name. And it's uh, it's 1144 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 1: it's biological biological reality. 1145 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 2: And what's wrong with that now? 1146 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: Levin called this a uh I think an act of bigotry. Yeah, yeah, 1147 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 1: and petty. No, it's an act of truth. And so 1148 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 1: when you have an act of truth, this is what 1149 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 1: people like the people like Levin consider to be petty. 1150 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,840 Speaker 1: The truth to them is petty. The truth means nothing. 1151 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 1: The only thing that means anything is is their view 1152 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 1: on the world. The only thing that means anything is 1153 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 1: their agenda, and as long as their agenda is being served, 1154 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,479 Speaker 1: they don't care who gets hurt in the process. Let 1155 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 1: ry remind you of what kind of person this Levin 1156 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:35,759 Speaker 1: character really is. This is a cut of Rachel Levin 1157 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Richard Levin talking about mutilating children and was a staunch 1158 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 1: advocate for experimental surgeries on children. Let's hear cut number three. 1159 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 11: Gender affirming care is life saving, necessary, age appropriate, and 1160 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 11: a critical tool for healthcare providers. As a pediatrician when 1161 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 11: it comes to making sure kids are healthy and happy, 1162 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 11: I know how important care. The deffermed someone's true identity 1163 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 11: can be. 1164 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: What a bunch of crap. It's all lies. Rachel Livin 1165 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,759 Speaker 1: knew it, knew it when he or she spoke those words, 1166 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 1: and most definitely knows it now, But again, the cost 1167 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,600 Speaker 1: to real human beings, the damage that this kind of 1168 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: surgery does, is of no consequence to someone like Levin. 1169 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 1: In Florida, the Attorney General there s filed a lawsuit 1170 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 1: against three of the most insidious argumentations pushing for the 1171 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 1: mutilation of children in fealty to transgender ideology, the World 1172 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Professional Association for Transgender Health WPATH, the Endocrine Society, and 1173 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 1: the American Academy of Pediatrics. The lawsuit brings a racketeer 1174 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: influenced and corrupt organization a reco case as well as 1175 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,720 Speaker 1: a consumer protection case based on the state's contention that 1176 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 1: the organizations knowingly disseminated false information about transition procedures to children. 1177 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: The disinformation campaign then led to children's genital mutilation, chemical castration, 1178 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 1: other irreversible outcomes associated with the interventions, which were very 1179 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:54,759 Speaker 1: profitable to the organizations recommending them. For years, these groups, 1180 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,760 Speaker 1: this is the Attorney General speaking for years of these 1181 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: groups insisted the recommendations were settled science, but behind closed 1182 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:08,760 Speaker 1: doors they knew the evidence was weak. This is the 1183 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:14,600 Speaker 1: Attorney General Uthmyer. He said this in a video he 1184 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 1: posted on social media. He said they knew the outcomes 1185 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,679 Speaker 1: were uncertain and the risks were very real. Parents were 1186 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 1: not told the full story. In fact, some parents were 1187 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 1: told that if they didn't put their kids through permanent, 1188 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:35,799 Speaker 1: life changing, life altering sick procedures like double massed ectomies 1189 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 1: and castration, their child would commit suicide. Not only is 1190 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,479 Speaker 1: that unethical and dangerous medicine, but it's against the law. 1191 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 1: So the State of Florida knows that this narrative that 1192 01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: was being spun by Rachel Levin Richard was completely false, 1193 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:08,040 Speaker 1: completely unnecessary, a complete and total lie in furtherance of 1194 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 1: the agenda of the radical left and this movement that 1195 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 1: is quickly dying, as it should be, it should have 1196 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,200 Speaker 1: died a long time ago. But this movement, this radical 1197 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 1: trans movement, and just because we have a leader in 1198 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,320 Speaker 1: the White House who will not put up with this crap, 1199 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 1: who is outlawing this whole notion that you can surgically 1200 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 1: mutilate kids, it's being done away. I mean, just because 1201 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 1: there's new leadership now that's letting that happen. This movement 1202 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,759 Speaker 1: will it'll die down, It won't go away completely because 1203 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,000 Speaker 1: there will always be people out there who think that 1204 01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 1: this needs to continue. But Rachel Levin can cry and 1205 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 1: complain all he or she wants to about their real 1206 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,040 Speaker 1: name being put up under their portrait of Health and 1207 01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 1: Human Services. But this Levin is one of the most 1208 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,280 Speaker 1: reprehensible characters that you can possibly imagine. Ken and Mason 1209 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. 1210 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 5: Dan I agree with you completely about transgenderism. It's actually 1211 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 5: it's a perversion. There's nothing normal about it. And most 1212 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,800 Speaker 5: kids have no idea what they are until they're twelve 1213 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 5: thirteen years old. My three daughters were tom boys, all 1214 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,479 Speaker 5: of them, but by time they were thirteen or fourteen, 1215 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,640 Speaker 5: they were girls, and they were interested in boys and 1216 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 5: dances and dresses and everything else. The natural progression of life, 1217 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 5: you know, the kids are just playing when they're early on. 1218 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 5: And to perform surgery like that on children as heinous, 1219 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:54,759 Speaker 5: that's that's a crime. 1220 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,839 Speaker 1: And this and this the doctor Levin, this Rachel Levin 1221 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 1: is out there talking about how these surgeries are necessary 1222 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 1: in life saving. It does come complete and utter falsehood, 1223 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 1: a complete lie, and an absolute disgrace and unbelievably dangerous 1224 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 1: to children. And we're supposed to wring our hands because 1225 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 1: they they put the h they put this person's real 1226 01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,360 Speaker 1: name under their portrait of health and Human services and 1227 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,599 Speaker 1: what is and what does he do? He says, well, 1228 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 1: that's petty, and it figures that's the word they would 1229 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 1: use because the truth to leftists and these radicals, the 1230 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,720 Speaker 1: truth to them is petty and meaningless. 1231 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 5: Well, Danie'll remember last September, there were about one hundred 1232 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 5: and forty transgender girls that were going back to being 1233 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 5: a girl. Talk the horror stories of administrators and teachers 1234 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 5: telling them that you know, initially they were confused what 1235 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 5: they were and that they wish they had never performed 1236 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,599 Speaker 5: the transgender procedures ever, and most of them will never 1237 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,720 Speaker 5: be able to have a child in their lifetime. I mean, 1238 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,560 Speaker 5: it was an absolutely heartbreaking the experience. And listen to 1239 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 5: all these girls and how they were influenced by these teachers. 1240 01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,639 Speaker 5: You know, our educational system is a disaster right now. 1241 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 5: Dan They've been doctrinating kids now for up to fifty 1242 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:27,320 Speaker 5: years with all this BS. They're not teaching them reading, writing, 1243 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 5: and arithmetic like they should, developing an educational foundation. They're 1244 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,920 Speaker 5: not teaching them civics like they should. They're teaching them 1245 01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 5: to hate America. You know, I've been at some basketball 1246 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,720 Speaker 5: games in the last two weeks, stand and half the 1247 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,839 Speaker 5: audience won't stand up for the national anthem? 1248 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,679 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I thought we were I thought 1249 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:46,640 Speaker 2: we were past all that. 1250 01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 5: No, I mean, I'm telling you there was half the 1251 01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 5: crowd wasn't standing for the national anthems. 1252 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,639 Speaker 1: That that is unbelieving. And they're doing this in front 1253 01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 1: of How old are these kids that are playing basketball. 1254 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 5: When they're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, and. 1255 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Then these kids are sitting there watching this. That's embarrassing. 1256 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 1: Are the athletes at least standing up for the national anthem? 1257 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,479 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, the school makes some stand up. 1258 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:13,200 Speaker 2: Well thank god. 1259 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,920 Speaker 5: You know, I've told people next to me, get your 1260 01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,040 Speaker 5: rear end up. That's the national anthem. 1261 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 1: If I was on the if I was on the PA, 1262 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 1: I wouldn't start the national anthem until I saw everyone standing. 1263 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 3: You know. 1264 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,479 Speaker 1: I remember I was my son My son was was 1265 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,000 Speaker 1: went to Virginia Tech and he was a swimmer. And 1266 01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 1: this was this was when the you know, the whole 1267 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,040 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick thing was going on and people were taking 1268 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,360 Speaker 1: knees and all this stuff. And you had different little 1269 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,840 Speaker 1: league sports teams, you know, their coaches and their parents 1270 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 1: would tell them to take a knee during the national anthem. 1271 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 1: What a bunch of crap. But the thing that I 1272 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,720 Speaker 1: was most proud of when I would go to these 1273 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,960 Speaker 1: these swim meets and you'd go into these arenas that 1274 01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,960 Speaker 1: would be packed full of people. You would look around, 1275 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,799 Speaker 1: they would play the national anthem before the events would start, 1276 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:07,160 Speaker 1: and there was not one person that was taken a knee. 1277 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Everybody was standing. Everybody was respecting our national anthem and 1278 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 1: respecting the flag, from every athlete who was competing, to 1279 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 1: every person who was in the stand, and it was 1280 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 1: and it was unbelievable. So's there's still wide sections of 1281 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,799 Speaker 1: people in this country who love the flag and respect 1282 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:32,360 Speaker 1: the flag and don't go along with that crap that's 1283 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 1: about taking a knee. And it blows me away, Ken 1284 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,479 Speaker 1: from Mason, that there's still people out there doing that today. 1285 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,800 Speaker 5: Dan, I've been lucky enough in my life in my work, 1286 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,639 Speaker 5: I've traveled around most of the world, and America is 1287 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 5: the best country on God's green earth. These people, it's 1288 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,680 Speaker 5: more than just stupidity. They're completely naive and they've been 1289 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,840 Speaker 5: misled and they don't challenge any thing that they hear 1290 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,920 Speaker 5: has been said to them, if they would go, if 1291 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 5: they could go to Russia and see how life goes 1292 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 5: on in Russia, If they could go to China to 1293 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 5: see how life goes. 1294 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:09,599 Speaker 2: On in China. 1295 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,960 Speaker 5: You know, if they could go to Turkey and see 1296 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,519 Speaker 5: how life goes on there, you know, they would love 1297 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,440 Speaker 5: America with all their heart and soul. People don't understand 1298 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,839 Speaker 5: what a hell hole most of the world is compared 1299 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,519 Speaker 5: to America. America, we have a great These people are 1300 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,600 Speaker 5: allowed to say all these stupid, idiotic things because of 1301 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,920 Speaker 5: our constitution. We have the greatest setup in a life 1302 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 5: of all time in this world. I mean, they're allowed 1303 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,439 Speaker 5: to be idiots if they want to be. You know, 1304 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,679 Speaker 5: they'd be dead if they were in Russia doing idiotic things. 1305 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 5: They'd be dead in China if they were doing idiotic things. 1306 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 5: You know, they don't understand it, They don't get it. 1307 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 5: They think there's a better place. They think in Europe 1308 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 5: it's a better situation. You know, ninety five percent of 1309 01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,080 Speaker 5: people in Europe can't afford a car. 1310 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 1: I think of I think of the election of a 1311 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:07,360 Speaker 1: guy like Mandani and peg I peg a lot of 1312 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 1: that on the failure of our education system. He had 1313 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,960 Speaker 1: so many people vote for him who were young people 1314 01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,680 Speaker 1: who were in their twenties, who were in their thirties, 1315 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:21,519 Speaker 1: that were seduced by his talk of what free buses, 1316 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 1: rent control, free grocery stores, money for this, that and 1317 01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:31,000 Speaker 1: the other thing. Socialism. They've been seduced by this socialism. 1318 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 1: And have they had a decent education and a foundation 1319 01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 1: to fall back on, they would have known the fallacy 1320 01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 1: of the ideas that he's putting out there. They would 1321 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,599 Speaker 1: have known they were being sold to Bill of Goods. 1322 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,680 Speaker 5: And Daniz's led. Like we've been talking about Elanamar in Minnesota, 1323 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,600 Speaker 5: it gets worse day by day. This woman needs to 1324 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 5: go to jail. This woman is a thief, she's a liar, 1325 01:21:58,520 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 5: she's a con artist. 1326 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,640 Speaker 4: You know, we talked about it. She's now worth thirty. 1327 01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 2: Million, thirty million dollars. 1328 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, she's never had a job. 1329 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 1: And Tom tom Homan, Tom, I heard Tom Homan, he 1330 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,680 Speaker 1: was on you know, he might have been on news 1331 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,080 Speaker 1: I think he was on news Max earlier today, but 1332 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:20,360 Speaker 1: he he said they he's got the best investigators at 1333 01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,160 Speaker 1: Homeland Security looking into her now. So she's nice, she's 1334 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,200 Speaker 1: gonna she's going to get hopefully she's going to get 1335 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 1: exposed and get what's coming to her. She's smart, she'll 1336 01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,599 Speaker 1: head back to Somalia before too long. Ken, we got 1337 01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:35,960 Speaker 1: to run, We got to get to a break. But 1338 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,120 Speaker 1: as always, man, appreciate you listening, Appreciate you picking up 1339 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 1: the phone. 1340 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 5: All right, Dany, have a good one. 1341 01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,320 Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Ken from me some eleven 1342 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 1: twenty five at seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW, Dan 1343 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 1: Carroll till midnight tonight, Thursday Night edition of the Midweek Crisis. 1344 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:57,639 Speaker 2: I want to get back to Christy Nome. 1345 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:04,480 Speaker 1: She was testified today in front of the Congressional Committee. 1346 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,599 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a it's amazing how how much 1347 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 1: on a on a weekly basis, I get ready for 1348 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,040 Speaker 1: these shows. And I mean, you just see how much 1349 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,439 Speaker 1: the left and Democrats, how much they lie and mean. 1350 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:23,320 Speaker 1: Yet I played Rache Levin earlier. She's lying about how 1351 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,639 Speaker 1: this transgenda gender affirming care is necessary and life changing, 1352 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,200 Speaker 1: life changing for children. It's a complete and total lie. 1353 01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:38,200 Speaker 1: Promila Jaya Paul is out there talking about what Somalians 1354 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 1: did for America, saying that Somalis and Indians and Latin 1355 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:47,080 Speaker 1: Americans built this country, made it what it is today, 1356 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:56,519 Speaker 1: it's a complete that's just completely false. Alyssa Slotkin still 1357 01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 1: trying to get out from under that the d that 1358 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:07,040 Speaker 1: she made with the other seditious six Democrats talking about 1359 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 1: the illegal orders. How are men and women in the 1360 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:14,280 Speaker 1: military don't have to don't have to follow those illegal orders. 1361 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 1: Now she's doing an interview, she did an interview with 1362 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 1: The Daily Beast. She's claiming that the only reason that 1363 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 1: she and the other Democrats released that video, that disgraceful video, 1364 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:36,000 Speaker 1: was because they were approached by so many members of 1365 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:40,479 Speaker 1: the military who were concerned about this very thing. Does 1366 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:46,360 Speaker 1: anyone believe for a minute that they approached her that 1367 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:51,320 Speaker 1: there were so many so many military members came to 1368 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 1: her and said that we are we're concerned about the 1369 01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 1: illegal orders that we might get from Trump. And so 1370 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,599 Speaker 1: she in turn made that video. What a complete that's 1371 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 1: another completing total line. And then these people on the 1372 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:19,519 Speaker 1: committee today talking to Secretary No, they didn't do anything 1373 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,800 Speaker 1: that was for the benefit of the American people. Their 1374 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:29,880 Speaker 1: mission today was to bash Christinome, bash Donald Trump, bash 1375 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:34,880 Speaker 1: his policies, try and make Trump look like the bad 1376 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:39,439 Speaker 1: guy because we're deporting illegal aliens out of our country. 1377 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 1: Still not as many as Obama did, but that doesn't matter. 1378 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 1: Benny Thompson was on the committee. He said something completely reprehensible. 1379 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,880 Speaker 1: But I want to start with this dude Rhode Island. 1380 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,640 Speaker 1: This guy's from Rhode Island. His name is Seth Magaziner, 1381 01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:04,479 Speaker 1: and so he's talking to the secretary and he's trying 1382 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 1: to get her in a gotcha moment and it doesn't 1383 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 1: work out very well. And you're gonna see, you're gonna 1384 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 1: during the SoundBite here, you're going to hear him make 1385 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:21,080 Speaker 1: reference to someone named, say June Park, say June Park, 1386 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,639 Speaker 1: who actually was in the United States military. And as 1387 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 1: he says this, you see a one of his aides 1388 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 1: come up with what looks like an iPad and this 1389 01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 1: guy's picture on the iPad like he's sitting there, like 1390 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,759 Speaker 1: he's bringing actually bringing him into the into the hearing 1391 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:49,640 Speaker 1: by remote. And this, this exchange is just unbelievable. With 1392 01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,799 Speaker 1: Seth Magazine or as this guy's name from Rhode Island 1393 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,320 Speaker 1: and Joe Waddell, let's here cutting Umber twenty three, Please. 1394 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,200 Speaker 2: Jerry, United States military veterans. Have you deported. 1395 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:04,639 Speaker 7: Sir? 1396 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,920 Speaker 9: We have not deported US citizens or military veterans. 1397 01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,679 Speaker 2: I don't believe you served in the military. I haven't either, 1398 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 2: but I think you and I can agree that as 1399 01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,920 Speaker 2: Americans we owe everything to those who have served our 1400 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 2: country in uniform, particularly those who have served in combat. 1401 01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 2: Do you agree with that, sir? 1402 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 9: I believe that people that are in this United States 1403 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,160 Speaker 9: that are citizens have legal status here. 1404 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,720 Speaker 2: Those man, Secretary, We are joined on zoom by a 1405 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,639 Speaker 2: gentleman named sa Jean Park. He is a United States 1406 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 2: Army combat veteran who was shot twice while serving our 1407 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,679 Speaker 2: country in Panama in nineteen eighty nine. Like many veterans, 1408 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,320 Speaker 2: he struggled with PTSD and substance abuse after his service. 1409 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,679 Speaker 2: He was arrested in the nineteen nineties for some minor 1410 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,519 Speaker 2: drug offenses, nothing serious. He never hurt anyone besides himself, 1411 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,320 Speaker 2: and he's been clean and sober for fourteen years. He 1412 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:57,000 Speaker 2: is a combat veteran, a Purple Heart recipient. He has 1413 01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,200 Speaker 2: sacrificed more for this country than most people ever have. 1414 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 2: Earlier this year, you deported him to Korea, a country 1415 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,840 Speaker 2: he hasn't lived in since he was seven years old. 1416 01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 2: Will you join me in thanking mister Park for his 1417 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:11,719 Speaker 2: service to our country. 1418 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 9: Sir, I'm grateful for every single person that has served 1419 01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:15,920 Speaker 9: our country and follows. 1420 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,160 Speaker 12: Can you please tell every one of them needs to 1421 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:19,759 Speaker 12: be enforced. 1422 01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,080 Speaker 2: But you understand that many veterans struggle with PTSD, Many 1423 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:28,000 Speaker 2: veterans struggle with with substance abuse challenges. This man took 1424 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,799 Speaker 2: two bullets for our country. Will you you have brought authority, 1425 01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,280 Speaker 2: by the way as Secretary to issue humanitarian parole to 1426 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 2: do deferred action. Will you commit to at least looking 1427 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 2: at mister Park's case to see if you can help 1428 01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,000 Speaker 2: him find a pathway back to this country that he 1429 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,400 Speaker 2: sacrificed so much for. I will absolutely look at his case, but. 1430 01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,479 Speaker 1: I want you well, it turns out that his case 1431 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:55,240 Speaker 1: has already been looked at. Thanks again to Trisha MacLachlan, say, 1432 01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:59,519 Speaker 1: June Park has an extensive criminal history. Now it's true 1433 01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,240 Speaker 1: we served the military, but again, just because you served 1434 01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 1: in the military doesn't mean that we need to bow 1435 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:09,080 Speaker 1: down to you. This guy has an extensive criminal history, 1436 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,280 Speaker 1: no matter if he's got PTSD or what. Still an 1437 01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:18,200 Speaker 1: extensive criminal history that includes convictions for drugs and weapons 1438 01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:22,680 Speaker 1: offenses as well as bail jumping. These convictions led to 1439 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,120 Speaker 1: his green card being revoked in a final order of 1440 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:32,960 Speaker 1: removal from the United States. His criminal record includes convictions 1441 01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:40,559 Speaker 1: for possessing, manufacturing, or selling a dangerous weapon. And so 1442 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 1: this this fool, this idiot from Rhode Island, Okay, just 1443 01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,759 Speaker 1: a few minds, just got arrested for a few minor offens, 1444 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:55,920 Speaker 1: just some minor offenses. Possessing, manufacturing or selling a dangerous weapon, 1445 01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:02,360 Speaker 1: carrying a loaded firearm in a publica assault, criminal possession 1446 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:07,679 Speaker 1: of a controlled substance otherwise known as crack cocaine, jumping bail, 1447 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,400 Speaker 1: failure to appear in court. 1448 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:14,120 Speaker 2: So this is the. 1449 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,920 Speaker 1: This is the kind of criminal activity that this individual 1450 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,400 Speaker 1: was engaged in. He served approximately two and a half 1451 01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,280 Speaker 1: years to three years in prison for his convictions. In 1452 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:30,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty oh nine, after his release, he was issued 1453 01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:33,679 Speaker 1: in order of removal, but was initially allowed to remain 1454 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:38,400 Speaker 1: in the US under deferred action. So he was ordered 1455 01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:42,479 Speaker 1: out of the United States before Trump even thought about 1456 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:46,840 Speaker 1: running for office. So don't give me this crap about 1457 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 1: how in twenty twenty five he was finally caught up 1458 01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 1: with and sent out following the order that had been 1459 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,519 Speaker 1: issued for him to get the hell out of the country. 1460 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:02,200 Speaker 1: And then we've got one more Benny Toimepson. And if 1461 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,920 Speaker 1: that name sounds familiar, it should because Benny Thompson is 1462 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,080 Speaker 1: the guy that headed up to January sixth committee with 1463 01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:18,519 Speaker 1: Liz Cheney, and he's again going after Secretary Christino. And 1464 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:23,200 Speaker 1: he mentions the two National Guard members who got shot 1465 01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:28,040 Speaker 1: in DC and listened to the way this buffoon, this 1466 01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,200 Speaker 1: clown talks about that cut number twenty four. 1467 01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:32,559 Speaker 2: What you did. 1468 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,720 Speaker 13: Mount in Secretary of you and a gentleman from ct 1469 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:45,519 Speaker 13: N CTC reference the unfortunate accident that occurred with the 1470 01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,479 Speaker 13: National guardsman in Kio. 1471 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,559 Speaker 12: You think that was an unfortunate accident. 1472 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:53,080 Speaker 13: I mean there's a territ Wait wait, look, I'll get 1473 01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:53,519 Speaker 13: it straight. 1474 01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,160 Speaker 12: Then you can shot our National guardsman in the head. 1475 01:31:56,360 --> 01:32:01,640 Speaker 13: Look, musam, will you direct witness to allow me to 1476 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,840 Speaker 13: ask my question? It was an unfortunate situation. 1477 01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:14,439 Speaker 1: Allow me to ask my questions. Benny Thompson refers to 1478 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:19,599 Speaker 1: two National Guard members who got shot as an unfortunate accent. 1479 01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:30,200 Speaker 2: Justin just an accident. We got an Afghan dude who lives. 1480 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:35,040 Speaker 1: In Washington, drives across the country, lies in wait for 1481 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,840 Speaker 1: these two and then shoots them both in the head 1482 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:46,479 Speaker 1: kills one seriously critically wounds another, and he refers to 1483 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:51,160 Speaker 1: it just an unfortunate accident and thank god for Christy Nomes. 1484 01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,559 Speaker 1: She says, you call that an accident. He shot two 1485 01:32:53,640 --> 01:33:03,640 Speaker 1: people in the head. So again we hear democrats, liberal leftists, 1486 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:11,200 Speaker 1: radical democrats lying. Every one of these Democrats on this 1487 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 1: committee has put up a false narrative in front of 1488 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:20,280 Speaker 1: the secretary to try and make her look bad, and 1489 01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,320 Speaker 1: she fired back with this today, Christine om cut number 1490 01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:23,840 Speaker 1: twenty five. 1491 01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,120 Speaker 9: I think it's shameful to see the defense of individuals 1492 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:30,360 Speaker 9: who break our laws. We are a nation of laws. 1493 01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:31,840 Speaker 9: If we are not a nation of laws, we are 1494 01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:33,920 Speaker 9: no nation at all. And that is what we are 1495 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:34,880 Speaker 9: doing every day. 1496 01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,519 Speaker 12: Is following us. If you guys don't like the law, 1497 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,240 Speaker 12: go change it. That's your job. You don't complain. 1498 01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:40,960 Speaker 9: I was raised by a dad who said, we don't 1499 01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:41,960 Speaker 9: complain about things. 1500 01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:43,720 Speaker 12: We fix them. Well go fix them. 1501 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,600 Speaker 9: If you don't like the law, quit belly ach and 1502 01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,599 Speaker 9: quit hitting and attacking our ice officers. Quit going out 1503 01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,639 Speaker 9: and protesting and screaming vile things at them, Quit calling 1504 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:52,120 Speaker 9: them names. 1505 01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:53,559 Speaker 12: We wouldn't let our children do that. 1506 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,839 Speaker 9: Go do something that actually matters by having an honest 1507 01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,160 Speaker 9: debate and changing the law. 1508 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,320 Speaker 12: That's your jobs. You all should be fine, and my viewpoint. 1509 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,400 Speaker 1: You all should be fired, and she's absolutely right with that. 1510 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,320 Speaker 1: I got to call it a night. We will see 1511 01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,439 Speaker 1: you next time on the Home of the Best Bengals 1512 01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,080 Speaker 1: coverage seven hundred WLW