1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray. I'm doll you Easy 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Boston's news Radio. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, good evening. Welcome on into a Wednesday night, 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: a middle of the week edition of Nightside. We have 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: a two days down, three go, three days to go 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: to the weekend, and we have four really interesting guests 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: during this first eight o'clock hour. My name is Dan Ray, 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Rob Brooks. The producers back in the well the iHeart 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: headquarters and making sure. I hope that your Verizon phones 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: are working. We're trying to follow that story, but Verison 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: apparently had a huge problem today. Hey, electronics, when they work, 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: it's great, but when there's a problem, it affects a 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: lot of people. So I hope you would not affect it, 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: particularly if you're a Nightside caller. We will be talking 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: later on tonight with a couple of interesting guests and 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: hopefully a bunch of interesting callers. Wegman's supermarket chain has 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: decided to test some face shou recognition cameras in some 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: of their stores to help identify individuals who pose a 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: risk to their people, customers, and operations. We're going to 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: talk with Professor Eric Leernard Miller, Professor Chair of the 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: faculty U mass Amherst demanding College of Information and Computer 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: Sciences to discuss this development. Also moving out of Massachusetts 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: where more people are moving out than moving in, And 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: we're going to be talking with I Lea Cummings, vice 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: president of Communication for United Vanned Lines. You're thinking about 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: moving out of Massachusetts? If so, why we'll talk about 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: that beginning at ten o'clock. So we have an interesting 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: program lined up and we have four very interesting guests. 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: We're going to start off with Jamie Blackburn. Jamie is 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts Society Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, a great organization, Angels, 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: housing policy specialist, new campaign seeking and peck discrimination in 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: mass rentals. Jamie, I am so with you on this. 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: If you know anything about me or anything about this show. 34 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: We are huge fans of family pets. They are that 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: they're family pets, they're members of the family. As far 36 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, what is the MSPCA trying to do 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: legislatively to make it a little easier to keep the 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 2: family together. Good evening and welcome and happy New Year. 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: Oh great, thanks having new you to you and thanks 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: for having me onme. You're right, so MSPCA Angel has 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: launched a new campaign, Action for Pet Inclusive Housing, really 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: in response to the housing crisis we're having broadly in 43 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: the Commonwealth. But I'm sure you speak to anyone that 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: has a pet that rents a home, and you know, 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: the ability to find a rental that you can afford, 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: that is willing to take your fifty pounds, you know, 47 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: Labrador is more and more difficult by the day, and 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: so you know, in response to this, you know, the 49 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: MSPCA has just seen a real dramatic rise in the 50 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: number of animals been handed over to our to our 51 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 3: shelter specifically because of housing related pressures for their owners. 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: And it's really become just such a heartbreaking crisis. 53 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: A heartbreaking crisis. You got cut off there a little bit. 54 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: I assume that's what you said. 55 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, a heartbreaking crisis we've seen, you know, in about 56 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: the last two and a half years, over three thousand 57 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: animals have been surrendered to our shelters across the state, 58 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: all because of housing and our organization has spent over 59 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: a million dollars caring for those animals that would otherwise 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: have homes. 61 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I say with you, I am with you. One 62 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: thousand percent on this, So do not construe my question 63 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: in any other way than you know. Basically, they said, 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: devils advocate question, what do you say to some you know, 65 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: small real estate owner maybe owns a three deck or somewhere, 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: and he says, look, you know, I of an elderly 67 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: person who's who's deathly afraid of dogs, and I you know, 68 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: And also the argument, and I want you to take 69 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: on that argument of it's someone else's property. I mean, 70 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: for me to go and rent someone else's property, I 71 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: certainly should have a right to enter into a conversation 72 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: and all of that. But if if for some reason 73 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: the owner I don't know, you know, is a little apprehensive, 74 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: are there any property rights that we need to balance 75 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: here for rent for real estate owners? 76 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: Oh, certainly there's there's lots of room for for balance. 77 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: I think the important thing to emphasize about our campaign 78 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: is expanding market choice. You know, quite frankly, in Massachusetts, 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: we have one of the most expensive and competitive rental 80 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: markets in the nation, and folks are spending upwards of 81 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: three thousand dollars on a one bedroom apartment. And folks 82 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 3: that you know, work full time professionals that are often 83 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 3: shut out of home ownerships because very difficult to reach 84 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: home ownership here in Massachusetts, especially if you are of 85 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: millennial age, and so, you know, we're really all about 86 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: increasing market options and market choice and so that certainly 87 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: there's lots of room for conversation. I think we're really 88 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: focused on building partnerships with larger portfolio holders, you know, 89 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: thousands of units, rather than small holding landlords. 90 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's get let's get specific, if you will, 91 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: and that is, are you folks, and again I am 92 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: with you one thousand percent of this? Are you willing 93 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: to exempt let's say people who own, you know, a 94 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: couple of rental properties. Obviously, if there's some building that 95 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: has five hundred units in it, clearly they should be 96 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: be willing to take some percentage of their owners with 97 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: Are there any specific concessions? I have people who are 98 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: listening to my show right now who are renters and 99 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 2: people who are home own those small landlords. YEA file. 100 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: Does it take any into consideration that at all? Or no? 101 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's important to discuss what's in the 102 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: legislation right actually the. 103 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: Priorities it is. 104 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have two bills in front of the legislature 105 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: and UH and and to be cleared, you know, neither 106 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: of them have any sort of directives for landlords in them. 107 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: Are We have one bill that's aimed for public housing 108 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: UH and reinstating a state aided public housing UH PET 109 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 3: program UH that is similar to the elderly Housing program, 110 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 3: So the one that's focused on public housing exclusively. And 111 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: then we have one bill that talks about preventing breed 112 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: restrictions from insurance companies and also preventing hoas from being 113 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: able to institute UH indiscriminate bands by breed and by 114 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: and by weights, and so that folks that own their 115 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: homes within an h o A would be able to 116 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: their pets with them. That that piece of legislation also 117 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: requires hotels to accept pets during a state of emergency. 118 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's do this. I think it's a great idea. 119 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: UH. 120 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: First off, let's talk about how people who want to 121 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: support these pieces of legislation can get in touch with 122 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: you or what call to action do you have for 123 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: my listeners tonight who have been persuaded by your arguments 124 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: as they say, I'm with you one thousand percent. I 125 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: want to be somewhat considerate to people who own you know, 126 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: small three family you know, three deckers and stuff like that. 127 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: But what should people do? Could they get in touch 128 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: with you at the MSPCA. We always can tell them 129 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: call the legislators, but sometimes they need a little more 130 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: direction than that. They need the bill numbers and information 131 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: about when the bills are going to be, when there'll 132 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: be testimony at the state House. What can we suggest 133 00:07:59,680 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: to people? 134 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, If folks want to get involved and really 135 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: learn more about the work we're doing to expand access 136 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: to pet inclusive housing is they can go to MSPCA 137 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: dot org slash housing. They can get all the information 138 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: that they need about the two bills that we're that 139 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: we're putting forward, as well as some of the other 140 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: work that we're doing really to build dialogue with landlords 141 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: and housing providers around how we can better accommodate pet 142 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: families in Massachusetts and make sure that people can keep 143 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: their families together and not have to surrender their pets 144 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 3: simply to avoid you know, avoid homelessness and to keep 145 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: a roof over their heads and to stay in their 146 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: communities and find rental housing that they need. So go 147 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: to MSPCA dot org slash Housing to learn more and 148 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: to read up on these bills and lend your support. 149 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: We like to think of Massachusetts as fairly forward looking 150 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: and open minded. How do we stand in relation to 151 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: the rest of the states around the country on this issue, 152 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: if you. 153 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, that's a really great question. So Massa tend 154 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: to be out a little bit more out in front, 155 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: and we have, but we also have a perfect storm 156 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: with high rates of pet ownership combined with that really 157 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: really expensive housing market, and so you know, we really 158 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: can do better in the percentage of market share. So 159 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: rentals that are pet inclusive and Massachusetts are hovering about 160 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: seven percent of the entire market. And so there are 161 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 3: other states and other metro areas especially that do this better. 162 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: Texas Austin, Texas, for one, they have you know, they've 163 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: ranked at the top for pet inclusivity amongst rental units. 164 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: Massachusetts is very low on that scale in terms of 165 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: market choice. Right where can consumers, where can tenants find 166 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: rental units that they're willing to pay for and bring 167 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: their animals with them? There's very limited market choice here 168 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: and that's what we're seeking to change. 169 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: And one thing which I always have to mention when 170 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 2: we have someone from MSPCA Angel there are always great 171 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: pets that are available that people can adopt. Shelter animals. 172 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: There are the pets right tonight who are sleeping and 173 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: they don't have someone with some place they can call home. 174 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: So if you're someone who's interested, please get in touch 175 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: with the MSPCA and go down there and meet some 176 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: of these pets, not only dogs, but you have other 177 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: other critters as well that will do much better as 178 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: a member of a family. So thanks very much Jamie 179 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: for what you do. What we like to do is 180 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: when this starts to percolate legislatively, have you folks get 181 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: in touch with my producer and I will have you 182 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: or whoever you would like on for an hour and 183 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: we can make it full of presentation and also entertain 184 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 2: phone calls from some of our listeners, but people who 185 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: have questions and we might be able to help. 186 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: We would love that. 187 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, please, Jamie Blackbird, she is with 188 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: the MSPCA the Angels Housing Policy Specialists. Jamie, thank you 189 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: very much, and I do mean happy New Year. Let's 190 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: hope that this year you make some progress on these 191 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: pieces of legs. Thanks again. 192 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: Oh Thank you so much. 193 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: Very welcome. When we get back, we're going to talk 194 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: about the neuroscience behind philanthropy, the science of generosity, exploring 195 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: how giving is good for those who give, as well 196 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: as the people and organizations they help. There's a book, 197 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: neuro Giving the Science of Donor Decision Making by Chary 198 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: and Cocy, USA today best selling author, leading expert on 199 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: the neuroscience of generosity and the author of Neurogiving the 200 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 2: Science of Donor Decision Making. We'll be back with Cherry 201 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: and Cocy right after this quick break on a Wednesday night, 202 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: middle of the week, middle of January. I mean tomorrow 203 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: is the middle of January. It's the fifteenth. Well, actually, 204 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: I guess the sixteenth is the middle of January. We're 205 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: close enough. Coming back on Night Side, we're going to 206 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: talk now with Cherry and Koshi. Cherry and Kosche is 207 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: the author of a book called Neurogiving The Science of 208 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: Donor Decision Making. Cherry and welcome to Nightside. Tell us 209 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: about the book. 210 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me. Oh yeah, thanks for 211 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: having me, and yeah, absolutely so. As I'm sure you know, 212 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people think that they are really rational 213 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: about decision making, that they lest out pros and cons 214 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: about every decision they make, and in reality, people are 215 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: not They're very emotional about their decision making. There's lots 216 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: of things that impact their decisions that they're. 217 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 4: Not aware of. 218 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: And neurogiving is about how people really decide to give, 219 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: how they decide to be generous, and not how we 220 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: pretend they do. The science is really clear. The heart 221 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: moves first and the head follows, and every act of 222 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: generosity is an identity decision and it answers the internal 223 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: question of who am I when it really counts? 224 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's break that down. I understand philosophically what 225 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: you're saying, but we all get male. We all see 226 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: charities that would like to support. Obviously, all of us 227 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: are somewhat constrained by how much disposable income we have 228 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: after we've you've done everything we can and and some 229 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: people have, you know, different resources resources. What what moves 230 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: people I mean is it does there have to be 231 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: a connection between the individual and the charity. I mean, 232 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: if if I see a charity about I don't know, 233 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: you know, saving octopuses or octopi off the coast of Australia, 234 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: it's probably not gonna, you know, get to me because 235 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of octopus pie or octopuses whatever. 236 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: But what's what is it that that that makes people? 237 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: Is it well written appeals? I hope it's something more 238 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: substantive than just a well written appeal. 239 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: It is it is in fact, and and that's really 240 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: the whole point of the book. And the argument is 241 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: that there there can be something that's really persuasive in 242 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: the writing. But it's not going to convince someone who 243 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: doesn't care about an octopus to to suddenly care about 244 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: an octopus. You're not gonna I used to live in Boston, 245 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: I lived in Quincy. You're not going to convince someone 246 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: from Boston to suddenly care about the Knicks or to 247 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: care about the Yankees. And and you know, go, uh 248 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: go root for them in the same way you know 249 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: with a charity. If they don't care about it, if 250 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to them, if you know, they have 251 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: no connection to it, no amount of flashy writing or 252 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: images is going to make them care. So what does 253 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: make them care is some pre existing condition. And what 254 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean by that is that they maybe have some 255 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: inclination from their background to give back to that cause 256 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: or to pay it forward to something. Maybe they're they 257 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: benefited from it in the past, maybe someone in their 258 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: life was impacted from it. So you know, like for you, 259 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: for example, maybe you had a great experience at Boston University. 260 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: My friend Joy McKee is a great fundraiser there. Maybe 261 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: you feel like you want to give back to your 262 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: alma mater. That's an example of why you might care. 263 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: Someone else might have had a really bad experience of 264 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: their alma mater they don't want to give back. That's 265 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: a different scenario. 266 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: Interesting. What percentage and I know this is always interesting, 267 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: what percentage of Americans over the course of a year, 268 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: you know, talking about people who are you know, adults 269 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: over twenty one actually in some form of fashion contribute 270 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: either by volunteering or making a financial contribution to a charity. 271 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Is a great question, don Yeah, absolutely. University of Chicago 272 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: did that study in twenty twenty five, and seventy five 273 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: percent of Americans made some kind of contribution in the 274 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: last year based on their study, whether that was to 275 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: a monetary contribution or through a gift of time. 276 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: That's that's encouraging. I read a study a few years 277 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: ago which surprised me, perhaps the cynic in me should 278 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: not have been surprised that which state and if you 279 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: know the answer to this on a per capita basis, 280 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: was the most charitable, uh, to our two organizations. 281 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: I believe that it's Utah. Don't don't quote me on that, 282 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: but I believe that it's Utah. 283 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, you might think so with with the the Mormon 284 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: Church out there and tithing. The study that I said 285 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: that I read stunned me. It was Mississippi. 286 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, and. 287 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: Massachusetts was kind of far back in the pack. Which 288 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: was which was disappointing to me. Had there been studies done, 289 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: to the best of your knowledge as to which regions 290 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: or states are more philanthropic than others? Now, I realized 291 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: that that Mississippi has a pretty significant religious base and 292 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: that might contribute to that, But you wouldn't think of 293 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: Mississippi as being the most you know, a particularly affluent state. 294 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: Have there been studies done regionally or statewide that you're 295 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: familiar with? 296 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? 297 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely there. There are different studies that are done every year, 298 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: both in terms of financial giving and in terms of volunteerism. 299 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: And there are different metrics obviously in terms of like 300 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: percent of giving versus total giving. So I mean, you know, 301 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: I used to fundraise in Massachusetts, so I know that 302 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: there's different ways of measuring that. When when I was there, 303 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: I felt like people in Massachusetts were very generous. So 304 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: I think it really just depends on how you're looking 305 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: at it. And there are folks in Massachusetts that are 306 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: contributing to some really important causes there. But you know, 307 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: every state, it really just depends on the circumstances. 308 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and would have to really take in so many 309 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: into accouncil many variables. You know, the the income levels 310 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: at different states are back and forth. Now you're a 311 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: USA Today best selling author and a leading expert on 312 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: this question of neuro givting. When does the book come out? 313 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: Is it already out? And how can people who are 314 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: interested in it? And I think a lot of people 315 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 2: in my audience will be interested in it. How can 316 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: they get it? I assume Amazon is one way, But 317 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: I also see you have a website, neurogiving ban dot com. 318 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, thanks for mentioning that. Yes, it came out 319 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: in early December and was on the USA Today bestseller 320 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: list for a couple of weeks there, which is incredibly 321 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: humbling and amazing. We're pretty sure a nonprofit book has 322 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: never been on the USA Today bestseller list, so that's wild. 323 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's available anywhere books are available. 324 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: So bookstores. Is there anywhere you have this website, neural 325 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: givingbook dot com. I think you may want to give 326 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: that a plug, because that obviously is a website just 327 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: to voted to your book, and I want you to 328 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: help I want to help you sell some books. 329 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so on that website, on neurogivingbook dot com. 330 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: It lits out you know, Amazon and Target and all 331 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: of these different websites. But there's also a bunch of 332 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: bonuses there for organizations that might need some other materials 333 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: to help them take get the most out of the 334 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: book as well. 335 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: That's great, Charian, thank you very much. Pleasure to meet you. 336 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: How long will you win Massachusetts? And how long have 337 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: you been out of the Commonwath. 338 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: I was in Massachusetts in the late nineties early two thousands, 339 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: so it's been quite a while since I lived in Massachusetts, 340 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: but my sister worked there in the early two thousands 341 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: for maybe five or six years, so and I come 342 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: back and visit pretty often. I love Massachusetts. 343 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: And did you go up to did you go to 344 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 2: school up here? Is that what got you up here 345 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: in the first place. 346 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: I did not. I did not have the pleasure of 347 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: going to school there. I just worked there, so it 348 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: was a great place to work. 349 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you very much. I always like to 350 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: know whenever someone mentions they have a connection, I always 351 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: like to try to flush that out a little bit. 352 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: Thanks Jerry, and hope the book does well. The book 353 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: is neuroscience. This neuro giving the science of donor decision 354 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: making and if you're in the business of fundraising, this 355 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: is another book that you might want to put on 356 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: your to read list, that's for sure. Thanks Jerry. Hope 357 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: to talk very much when we get back on to 358 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: talk about something that is very familiar to all of us. 359 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: That's the new Patriots going to talk with WBZ news 360 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: anchor reporter but also sports officionado Dan Watkins, talk a 361 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: little football and what the prospect is and maybe we 362 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: can each predict the final score. I think the Patriots 363 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: will win, and I think there'll be a little more 364 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 2: end zone activity next weekend. I'll give you a little 365 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: bit of a hint iss to where I'm leaiting coming 366 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: back on night Side. 367 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 6: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on. 368 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 369 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: Now the Patriots have nothing to lose. They're playing with 370 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: house money and next next weekend, next Sunday against the 371 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: Houston Texans with us is a WBZ news anchor and reporter, 372 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: but also sports enthusiast Dan Watkins. Dan, on a scale 373 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: of zero to ten, do you have any sort of 374 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: a worry about this game? 375 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 6: I'd put the worry about a seven. This Houston defense 376 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 6: is legit. They are one of, if not the best, 377 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 6: in the in the NFL, and they are gonna make 378 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 6: it for I think a long day for this Patriots offense, 379 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 6: just because of their pass rush and from what we 380 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 6: saw from the Patriots two rookies on the left side 381 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 6: of that offensive line in their first playoff game the 382 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 6: other night, the way this Houston team can get after 383 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 6: the quarterback, I think it's gonna take some time for 384 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 6: the Patriots to really be able to get some separation 385 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 6: in this in this one, which I do expect them 386 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 6: to do later on in this game. 387 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: I have a friend of mine who was feverishly rooting 388 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: for Philadelphia rather for Pittsburgh, even though Aaron Rodgers is 389 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: a quarterback and very concerned about the Houston Texan game. 390 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: And this friend of mine is a keen observer of 391 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: the NFL, and it kind of freaked me out. Yeah. 392 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 6: Look, and Rogers had a long night Monday night, sacked 393 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 6: four times. I mean, he was looking like he was 394 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 6: a man in his mid forties going against guys in 395 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 6: their twenties. In that one. This Houston defense, as we saw, 396 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 6: can swing a game, you know, at the drop of 397 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 6: a hat. They put up two touchdowns in the fourth 398 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 6: quarter by themselves to really blow that game open. I mean, 399 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 6: that final score a little misleading, thirty to six. It 400 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 6: was a four point game well into the fourth quarter there, 401 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 6: but then all of a sudden, the defense just starts 402 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 6: getting home. Rogers turns the ball over a few times, 403 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 6: and that's what the Patriots really got to try to 404 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 6: avoid doing in this one. And that's keeping Drake May 405 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 6: you know, in a clean pocket. And he's got to 406 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 6: limit the turnovers too. He turned the ball over a 407 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 6: few times against the Chargers. If he does that against Houston, 408 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 6: it might not you know, the Patriots might not be 409 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 6: so fortunate like they were the other night. 410 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston has a pretty good quarterback this guy Stroud, 411 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: but he didn't look great the other night. Now, I 412 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: know that Pittsburgh has always prided them themselves on great defenses, 413 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: but I think the days of Pittsburgh's great, great defense. 414 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 6: Is still currenting them. 415 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: He didn't he didn't scare me. I'll tell you who 416 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: scares me is still the Buffalo team who now has 417 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: to go to Denver. If Buffalo ever survives in Denver, 418 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: and that comes down to the Patriots and the Bills, 419 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: WHOA what a matchup that's gonna be. 420 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, Buffalo is actually favored in Denver this week, and 421 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 6: I like them a lot in that matchup. But going 422 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 6: back to c J. Stroud, He's c J. Stroud is 423 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 6: a very different quarterback home, home and away. When he's 424 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 6: home in that dome down there in Houston, he can 425 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 6: up some big time numbers on the road. He he's 426 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 6: a little shaky to me. And there's a big time 427 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 6: injury with this Houston offense. Nico Collins, their best wide receiver, 428 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 6: was carted off the field with a concussion Monday night. 429 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 6: He did not practice today. It sounds like he's not 430 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 6: going to play on Sunday. He's probably not gonna get 431 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 6: cleared in time with that short turnaround. Whereas the Patriots 432 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 6: Christian Gonzalez walked off the field, he was placing in 433 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 6: the concussion protocol. He was at practice today in a 434 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 6: non contact jersey, but he was going through some warm 435 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 6: up type drills there. So that does seem like a 436 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 6: good sign there for the Patriots. Stroud. They got to 437 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 6: be able to get to him, and I think they're 438 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 6: gonna the Patriots are gonna make CJ. Stroud try to 439 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 6: beat him. 440 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: We know they're running game. How's Houston's running game. 441 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 6: It's it's okay. But I think this Patriots run defense 442 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 6: is really good that they'll be able with the limit 443 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 6: the Houston rushing attack and really put this game in CJ. 444 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 6: Stroud's hands and he can be he he can be shaking. 445 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 6: In the playoffs. Each of the last two seasons, Stroud 446 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 6: and the Texans have won their first playoff game and 447 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 6: then they go on the road in the divisional round 448 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 6: second time, and they you know, in the second round, 449 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 6: they just don't look as good. So I'm expecting something 450 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 6: like that. And this Patriots past pass rush was fantastic 451 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 6: Sunday night. 452 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm gonna put you in the spot here. Actually, 453 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a question you wouldn't expect. Who's 454 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: a better team? Who batches up better with the Patriots 455 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 2: Houston or the Chargers. 456 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 6: Houston top to bottom? This Houston defense is another notch 457 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 6: ahead of the Chargers. 458 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 2: Okay, So now we've got to pick a score. So 459 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: I think on Friday night when we do the twentieth hour, 460 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to give people a chance to pick the score. 461 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: So I'll let you go first, or I'll go first, whichever, 462 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: whichever you want. Houston and the Patriots. 463 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 6: All right, I'll go Patriots twenty three Houston sixteen. 464 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: Okay. I think it's gonna be a little higher scoring 465 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: than that for some reason, and I don't know why 466 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm going. I'm gonna go Patriots twenty seven Houston twenty four. 467 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a tight game. I 468 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: wish it wasn't, but I based listening to what you 469 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 2: have to say, and you know a lot about it, 470 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: and what my own sense is and what my secret 471 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: spies tell me, or who followed the NFL a little 472 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: bit more closely than I do. Although I follow it 473 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: pretty closely, they really follow it closely. I'm going twenty seven, 474 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: twenty four. It doesn't matter by how many points. Right now, 475 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: the pet still the line still favors the Patriots. 476 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, Patriots are still favored by three. And there's even 477 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 6: a three and a half on some books right now too. 478 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I didn't mean to be that close to 479 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: the line, but that's how I feel. And we'll see 480 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: what happens. And I think on Friday night and hour 481 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: eleven o'clock, hour of the twentieth hour, we'll give everybody 482 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: a night side a chance to pick a score, and 483 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put in your score. No one else can 484 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: pick that score, so you have that score because they 485 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: don't want people to be pick against you or me. 486 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: They can pick whatever numbers they want, but they can't 487 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: pick those two scores. And we'll have some sort of 488 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: a nightside prize up. Maybe you'll win it. Dan, very good, 489 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: very good. All right man, great to talk to you. 490 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for a pitch hitting tonight. 491 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 6: Of course, I was actually a little surprised we were 492 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 6: talking about the Pats. I thought you were gonna have 493 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 6: me on to talk about Ranger Suarez. 494 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny. I was checking him out tonight. 495 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: I don't know much about him nationally pitcher with the Phillies. 496 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: When I first heard Ranger Suarez, I thought they were 497 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: talking about some guy from the Texas Rangers. Reminds me 498 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of Nelson Cortez, the lefty that the 499 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 2: Yankees had. 500 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of you know. 501 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: Not not a big guy. 502 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 6: It's a ground ball pitcher. He doesn't throw a ton 503 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 6: of innings, but he is pretty good. And he's he's 504 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 6: in number two. He's gonna slot in right behind Gara 505 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 6: Crochet and it's gonna make those other guys fall down 506 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 6: in line where they should be. Because I was pretty 507 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 6: nervous if they were gonna have Sonny Gravy their number 508 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 6: two starting pitcher. 509 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't know. Maybe Bellow can be. 510 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: I don't like the idea of having lefty lefty. I 511 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: gotta be honest with you, Just like in a lineup, 512 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: I like to have, you know, a left the inn 513 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: a righty or in a lefty. So maybe you move, 514 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: maybe you move Bellow up. I thought Bello was was 515 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: good last year. I mean a little inconsistent, and when 516 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 2: you're comparing the Crochet, obviously no one can stand up 517 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: to that, but I'd go Crochet bellow, uh, and then 518 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: then Suarez and put mc gray of four. 519 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 6: Sure, no, I would absolutely be all for that. But 520 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 6: I think one thing this move does tell me is 521 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 6: that the Red Sox are going to be going back 522 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 6: to the trade market too, because they have they have 523 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 6: like seven or eight starting pitchers right now. You can 524 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 6: never have too many, but they have an Alex Bregman 525 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 6: size hole to fill in their lineup right now. 526 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't know that there's anything that's I mean, 527 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: Bigo is the only guy, and and I guess that 528 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: that would mean what Digo playing third? Or would you 529 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: move Story over the third? Oh yeah, yeah, Bashette, I'm sorry. 530 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, or Marcela Mayer too, he could play third base 531 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 6: as well. 532 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that, That is a that's a big loss. 533 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: I read, you know, Peter Abraham's thing piece this morning 534 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: that said the Red Sox were pretty close in the 535 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: money but wouldn't give the five year on no trade. 536 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: I think no trade clauses are much more important to 537 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: the team than they are out of the player in 538 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: my opinion. 539 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 6: But sure, yeah, frustrating loss regardless. 540 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, to have him for one year it's almost it's 541 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: almost cruel because he seemed like a really good guy 542 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: and certainly a solid con Oh. 543 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 6: He was the leader of the team without a doubt question. 544 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 6: So they got a huge, huge void to fill there. 545 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: Dan Watkins, appreciate your time. 546 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 6: Thank you much, my friend, anytime day, talk soon, yep. 547 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: Thanks. We can talk politics, we can talk sports, whatever 548 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: you want, and we will do. One of my listeners 549 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: last week a little late, suggested that Joel in Natick 550 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: suggest that we do Patriots pick them, and we'll do 551 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: that on Friday night at eleven o'clock. In the meantime, 552 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: we have one more guest coming up, Mike Dian from 553 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: the Axios Boston Reporter, and Boston ranks in the top 554 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: ten for wininter Blues. I don't feel that way. I 555 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: hope you don't. We'll talk with Mike right after this. 556 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 6: It's Night Side with. 557 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: Boston's News Radio. 558 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: Well, welcome back, Mike Dean Axios Boston Boston Axios Reporter. Mike, 559 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: how are you today? 560 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm doing I'm. 561 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: Doing just great. Though, So look, it sounds as if 562 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: Boston has been ranked in the bottom ten or the 563 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: top ten for winter blues. Bottom ten whichever way you 564 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: want to look at it. It's ranks number ten tenth 565 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: in the US for seasonal effective disorder and winter blues. 566 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: And I guess that would kind of go together. So well, yeah, 567 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: I got one with you kind of have one without 568 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: the other. What's the problem? Come on? A little winter? 569 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: We we're used to that. I'm surprised. I would think 570 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: a lot of cities that that have winter blues or 571 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: cities where nothing's going on, there's no snow storms. It's 572 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: you know, going to be thirty forty degrees every day 573 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: for three or four months, at least in Boston. You 574 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: get a little snow here, you get a little ice there, 575 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: and it makes it exciting. What's the factors? Mike, tell 576 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: us the truth there, what's going on? 577 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Look, it's not the most clinical study, this survey, 578 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 4: and basically this is looking at Google searches for terms 579 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 4: like seasonal effective disorder symptoms, seasonal depression treatment, things like that. 580 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 4: So you know, you can call it kind of broadly anecdotal, 581 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 4: but I think it is a good jumping off point 582 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 4: for kind of a conversation about how we deal with 583 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: the winter and what people are looking for solutions for 584 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: I mean, so if Boston is number ten in the 585 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 4: US for Google searches this kind of stuff, we're certainly 586 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 4: looking for solutions. It may not necessarily mean that folks 587 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: in Boston are getting diagnosed with this clinical disorder, but 588 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 4: it means that people are kind of, you know, riping 589 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 4: through the gloomy winter and looking for ways to get 590 00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 4: around it. 591 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, what was give us 592 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: if we were number ten in terms of the tenth 593 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: worst dealing with you know, we'll call it the blues. 594 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: What were the top cities Buffalo? 595 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's a little weird. And this is 596 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 4: a survey from Rapid Garden pos which is it's kind 597 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 4: of a marketing company that yeah, it's kind of garden stuff. 598 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: Their whole pitch is that house plants make it better, 599 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: right anyway, But I'll tell you the So, if Boston's 600 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: number ten, number nine on the list Orlando, Florida. So 601 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 4: I guess you could say it goes to show you that, 602 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 4: you know, the fun's going down to a lack of sunlight. 603 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: All that stuff is true everywhere. 604 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 5: I guess it's all releative that Orlando's a lot closer 605 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 5: to the Equator, and as a consequence, even in the 606 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: darkest day of winter, I think I think the sun 607 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 5: sets down there like forty five minutes on air, which 608 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 5: later if I'm not mistaken. 609 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: Yeah no, you're absolutely right. But you know, if it's 610 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 4: just gonna be relative to what people are used to, 611 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 4: I guess that could be something to it. And the 612 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 4: study kind of suggests that maybe it's not necessarily the 613 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 4: cold or even necessarily the daylight, but just kind of 614 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: people hunkering down in the winter after the holidays, and 615 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 4: folks just kind of you know, batting down the hatches. 616 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: Well for a moder you, Mike, but for me, when 617 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: when the Red Sox truck, which leaves on February second, 618 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: winch is over, we just kind of hang on here 619 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: about three more weeks and we're gonna be all. We're 620 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: gonna be all said. Okay, so Orlando, come on, what's 621 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: wrong with Mickey and Donald duck on that they are 622 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: way off? Who's who are some of the other cities 623 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: that even have it worse than Boston. 624 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I'll go starting number one, Minneapolis, Minnesota. 625 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: So right, a bad winter out there for well. 626 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, regardless of we're'll put that aside. 627 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: From Okay, that's not. 628 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 4: A great winter city. Cleveland, Ohio number two, Seattle, Washington, 629 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 4: number three, Atlanta, Georgia, number four. You know, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania five, 630 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: Saint Paul, Minnesota six, Cincinnati, Ohio seven, Portland, Oregon eight, 631 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 4: and like I said, Orlando, Florida nine, and where at ten. 632 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: So I don't want to make a political thing out 633 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: of it, but there's some troubled cities in there. I mean, 634 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: people are not happy in Portland, They're not happy in Seattle, obviously. 635 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 2: Minneapolis they have a lot of these inner walkways and 636 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 2: stuff they have prepared for winter out there, which is 637 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: even tougher Cleveland, I guess, you know. I know, Cleveland 638 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: in the summertime is great with the Rock and Roll 639 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, but I kind of imagine I would 640 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: think that winter in Cleveland's probably pretty dreary. I hope 641 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: none of our listeners in Cleveland are listening right now. 642 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly. And you don't see too much from the 643 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 4: southwest here, No California, no Texas. Orlando is the only 644 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 4: Florida city that pops up on here. So you know, 645 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 4: it's kind of anybody's guests with data like this, why 646 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 4: those areas are searching for these, you know, the seasonal 647 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: effective disorder and things like that, more than other places 648 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 4: in the US. But go to bite to it. 649 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 2: No matter how bad it gets here in Boston, and 650 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: you've been I think you're a local guy, and you know, 651 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: we remember the things like the blizzard of ninety seven. 652 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: You probably were in grammar school back then. I remember 653 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 2: the blizzard of seventy eight, and I remember blizzards even 654 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: before that which were really tough. And I always was 655 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 2: bolstered by this one thought. I thought to myself, no 656 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 2: matter how bad it gets in Boston in the winter time, 657 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: how dreary, how dark, how cold, how snowy, it could 658 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: always worse. We could live in Canada exactly. 659 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a whole other country north of Buffalo we 660 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 4: don't think about. 661 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: Or I've read the other day that Juno, Alaska, which 662 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 2: is right on the water, right on the Pacific Ocean, 663 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: almost bended you to Alaska that they're having one of 664 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 2: the most miserable winters. After all this talk about global 665 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: warming and how the ice caps were melting, it sounds 666 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: like Alaska's having a tough winter, Which is they deserve 667 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 2: it because that's what they're supposed to have. Yeah, I mean, 668 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 2: that's why they moved there. That and for and for 669 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: the checks from the state government. Do you know you 670 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: if you live in Alaska, you get a check from 671 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: the state government by virtue of the fact that you 672 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 2: were a resident there because of all the oil that 673 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: is pumped out of the. 674 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 4: Oil revenue was right? Yeah, yeah, not bad. Yeah, maybe 675 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 4: they should save some of that cash for the winter. 676 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: I think so. I think so. Hey, Mike, how could 677 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: folks get subscribed to? Ask Axios Boston? What's what's the 678 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: easiest way we want to build up your your your base, 679 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: your your your subscriber base. 680 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 4: I appreciate that you can just go to axios dot 681 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 4: com slash Boston or really just google Axios ax iosh 682 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 4: Axios Boston and you'll be invited to sign up for 683 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 4: the daily newsletter. There you can get all the all 684 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 4: the news you'll basically need to start your morning. 685 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: So Axios dot Dash give it to me one more. 686 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 4: Time, Axios axios dot com slash in Boston. 687 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: Perfect, perfect, Axios dot com slash Boston. All right, Mike, 688 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 2: As always, I wish you guys great success. You guys 689 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: are are a great resource. You're doing great work, by 690 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: the way, not only here but in other cities as well, 691 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: and we need, you know, more more legitimate news outlets 692 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 2: and across in every city in America. We got the 693 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 2: first Amendment, let's use it. Thanks so much, Mike, appreciate that. Yeah, 694 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: thanks you my pleasure. When we get back, we will 695 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: get into our talk segment, and we're going to start 696 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 2: off by talking about Wegman's, the supermarket now is employing 697 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 2: in some of its stores facial recognition technology. We're going 698 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: to talk with the professor from UMass about the benefits 699 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: and also I think some of the serious questions about it. 700 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: Coming back on Nightside right after the break at nine 701 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 2: o'clock