1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: This is your all of a sudden football is back 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: in the air Leader Fan Fan Radio Network and k 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: f a N dot Com. Two minutes one second past 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: three o'clock Central Standard Time. Welcome you back to a 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: very snowy addition of the Bumper to Bumper program on 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: ah Well, it almost feels snow nomi like Wednesday afternoon 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: here in the twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul. 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Barrero. I'm joined as always by Guardsy, 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the producer of the broadcast, and we are delighted that 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: you are long for today's ride. That will, I think, 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: take us all the way till six thirty again tonight 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: it will six thirty three until six thirty. There will 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: be a heavy Olympic. There will be a heavy Olympic emphasis, 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: as has been the case really ever since the Winter 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Olympics began. On this today, we'll give you some updates 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: on guests in that regard. We'll certainly keep you posted 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: on USA versus Sweden. The puck has just been dropped 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: for the start of Piriod number two, in the wake 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: of a dramatic, really good quarterfinal matchup shocking between the 20 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: allegedly unstoppable Canada and the checks and the checks had 21 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: them right where they wanted them until they didn't they did. 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Canada ends up winning it, scoring Leyden regulation to tie it. 23 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: Think it without about three minutes to go, and then 24 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: winning it in the three on three ten minute overtime. 25 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: What about three or four minutes into it, I'd say, yeah, 26 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: it seemed like it was out that long after Cheske 27 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: had a great opportunity to end good saved by your 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: guy Bittington, and the rest is history. I thought, yeah, 29 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean it was a great opportunity. I thought it 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: almost felt like he got a little bit off too 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: far to the lest I didn't think he made the 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: most of the opportunity. It's still a good play by 33 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: the goalie, for sure. So there will be plenty of hockey, 34 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: There'll be plenty of other subjects covered between now and 35 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: six point thirty tonight. But I look out when I 36 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: look out the window and I see this stonami, I 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: think football. I feel like it's back in the air. 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: I'd kind of forgotten about it because when it gets 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: to fifty two degrees, it feels like well spring's coming. 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: We're in the abyss, we're moving past it. There's nothing 41 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: left to say about the Minnesota Vikings at this point, 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: so why bother yet? I now feel inspired to reopen 43 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: our Minnesota Vikings quarterback investigation. It's an ongoing investigation on 44 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: this program in which we attempt to explore exactly how 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: we got here and where we might be headed, two 46 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: very pretty crucial issues for any professional football team, certainly 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: this one included. And it's funny, you know about halfway 48 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: through this season, well, I think I don't remember the 49 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: exact date, but it was after one of JJ McCarthy's 50 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: most disastrous performances. And there were several. We're gonna have 51 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: to narrow that down. I know it was one of them. Yeah, 52 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: I got a text from a listener who has I 53 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: think some knowledge of my background, maybe was trying to 54 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: create a callback situation that would get my attention. And 55 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: the premise of the question was, is it possible that 56 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: the Vikings drafted another Bobby Douglas. Now, Bobby Douglas is 57 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback that we have occasionally talked about on the show, 58 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: but that is not very well known, certainly to the kids. 59 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure a lot of old times outside 60 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: of Chicago area would remember him, because there wasn't really 61 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: much reason to Bobby Douglas was a he hailed out 62 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: of I believe it was a Kansas University or the 63 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: University of Kansas. I never know which is right. In 64 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: the case of the Kansas Jayhawks, well they call themselves KU, 65 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: but I think it's the University of Kansas. Very Confusiah, Yeah, 66 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: it's exactly it. I you at least says we are 67 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Indiana University. Don't call us University of Indiana. We don't 68 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: really like it. And by God, now you better call 69 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: us exactly what we want to be called. But I digress, 70 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: And Douglas was one of several You think the Vikings 71 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: have had difficulty over the decades figuring out the quarterback 72 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: position double a ball, compared to the struggles of the 73 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: Monsters of the Midway, really going all the way back 74 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: to my childhood, I mean my early childhood. I'm talking 75 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: about going back to the early sixties. They did win 76 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: an NFL title in sixty three, and obviously they won 77 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in eighty five, but between sixty three 78 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: and eighty five they used pretty much every quarterback and 79 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: they were all terrible, and one of them was Bobby Douglas, 80 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I remember the text. I don't know 81 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: if I commented on it publicly, because I didn't know 82 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: in that day whether I really want to go into it. 83 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: I didn't even think it was fair because there were 84 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: two things about Bobby Douglas that stood out in the 85 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: time I watched him play. He well, he wasn't very productive, 86 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't very accurate, and in a football sense, he 87 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: had some dufust factor to him. Did he call himself ten? 88 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: He did not, but that was his number. I'm looking 89 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: at him, right. But what part of the reason I 90 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: stayed away from it was well, yeah, erratic thrower. But 91 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure at that point it was fair to 92 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: say that the dufus factor might be high with JJ McCarthy. 93 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: So I filed it away, maybe for a rainy day 94 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: or in this case of snowy day like today and 95 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: today it kind of fits because a story we've not discussed, 96 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: but I'm sure has been the topic of conversation around 97 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: the water cooler and around the fan and maybe on 98 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: several other shows is courtesy of the Athletics Alec Lewis, 99 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: who covers the Vikings for the Athletic and has occasionally 100 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: been on our show. He's on with pa I think 101 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: every week, and others as far as I as I know, 102 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: perhaps and Lewis, in one of his more recent pieces, 103 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: suggested that the Vikings decided to, shall we say, dumb 104 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: it down a little bit during this season. At that point, 105 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm going on, maybe the Bobby Douglas analogy isn't so 106 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: bad by dumbing it down. In his case, he said, 107 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: we virtually eliminated over the middle passing place, which sounds 108 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: preposterous to me. In a National Football league level level, 109 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: how you could even consider eliminating over the middle passing plays. 110 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: It just doesn't even seem in twenty twenty six for 111 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback whisper there could even be a possibility. But 112 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: on the other hand, if he felt obligated to do it, 113 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: that's a four alarm fire. Now that doesn't necessarily have 114 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: to be about dumbing it down. It could also be 115 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: touch And that's where Douglas and the only I mean, 116 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: there's there's two main differences between Bobby Douglas the seventies, 117 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: late sixties and seventies and Jay Jim McCarthy. Bobby Douglas 118 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: was built like a linebacker. JJ McCarthy is built a 119 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: little bit like Rob Dillingham. Yeah, big difference in their 120 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: body types and their strength. Right six. Enormous guy. Douglas, 121 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: enormous guy. I think he was the first quarterback to 122 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: ever rush for over a thousand yards or come close 123 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: to it. Others, you know, I think broke that record. 124 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: But that's basically what he did. He was the first. 125 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: He was the first. Okay, so now I'm thinking to myself, 126 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: maybe that guy had something going when he threw that 127 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: out there. The other difference is Bobby Douglas is left handed. 128 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: As far as I remember, JJ McCarthy is right handed. Correct, Yes, 129 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: he's not a left handed throwing right handed. I don't 130 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: know if it's been established all thumbs from time to time. 131 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: That's very, very true, Davy. Here's the quote, the comment 132 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: in the Alex Lewis p's applying touch to passes a 133 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: pre draft question the Vikings themselves had remained a struggle 134 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Minnesota also removed most of it's 135 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: over the passing concepts throughout the season to keep his 136 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: line of sight as simple as possible. Now, that sounds 137 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: like dumbing it down. The touch part also affects your 138 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: ability to throw passes. You could say shorter passes, intermediate 139 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: passes over the middle. Similar to Douglas. Douglas had a 140 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: cannon of an arm, a cannon. He could have been 141 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: a baseball pitcher. Hell Twins might might have been able 142 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: to add him to their rotation as long as he 143 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: was willing to take you know, salary minimum. But he 144 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: could have. He had no touch on the ball, no 145 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: ability to put they in baseball? What do they call it, 146 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: to pull the string on it? A little bit? Sure? 147 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: Change up where the most important thing isn't to fire 148 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: a fastball. I think Brady does Brady call it a 149 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: one ball? Yeah? That the fastball is the fastball? Yeah, 150 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: sometimes you don't need In fact, sometimes the one ball 151 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: hurts you. And that's all. Bobby Douglas seemed willing or 152 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: capable of figuring out how to throw dufus factor high. 153 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: One of the rumors going around was that he had 154 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: such difficulty recognizing blitzes that the Bears designated a lackey 155 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: to sound a bullhorn on the sidelines when they recognized 156 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: when coaches on the sidelines recognize the blitz coming. I 157 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: don't know if that's ever been confirmed, but it's believable 158 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: because that's how Bobby Douglas rolled. So now I'm starting 159 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: to I mean, how in all seriousness I've said, and 160 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: you said, I think, don't throw too much at him 161 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: from the beginning, run the ball effectively safer passes. I 162 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: don't think that's dumbing it down. I think that's being smart. 163 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: But when you tell me, if this report is accurate, 164 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: that you virtually eliminated rolls over the middle, I'm going, 165 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: what kind of world are we living in here? How 166 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: is that even in your like I said, if you 167 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: have to do that at any point in the development 168 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: of a quarterback, The alarm bells are going off in 169 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: my head and I'm saying, well, is anyway we could? 170 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: Can we give them away? Can we trade them? Did 171 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: you not find that disturbing? I found it, and I 172 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: have no reason to doubt it. Lewis is a very 173 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: accurate reporter, yes, and to other people have responded to it. 174 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: That's an alarming symptom of what seems, among the many 175 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: things that seems to ail JJ McCarthy in trying to 176 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: convince ourselves that he has a chance to be an 177 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: accomplished professional quarterback. Well, I think the only follow up 178 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: I would have is do you intend to ever bring 179 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: those back? And then the second part of that would 180 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: be do you think you will ever be able to 181 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: bring them back? So that would be if for the 182 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: head coach, that would be your two part in a 183 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: press confidence, yes, guards you would raise his hands a coach, 184 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: I've got a two part question, right, and then repeat 185 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: the question'd say do you intend it's probably three? Is 186 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: it true that Alec Lewis reported? Is it true that 187 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: you've eliminated most of your over the middle passing concepts? 188 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: Do you intend on bringing those back? Do you anticipate 189 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: having the ability to bring those back with nine? Isn't 190 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: that the question? Because I actually don't hate I don't 191 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: mind it as much. It's troubling, but we've talked about 192 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: it all season. They should have been incrementally bringing him along, 193 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: as opposed to here's the cousin's playbook, good luck with it, 194 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: and now we're stripping stuff away. If you if you 195 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: think you have no chance of bringing that stuff back 196 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: with them, then I think we know what we're doing here. 197 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: Then it's over. Well, here's the kicker. Despite all those 198 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: efforts to dumb things down and to eliminate him. Even 199 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: having to consider certain options in reading the field, he 200 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: still had the worst interception rate in the entire National 201 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: Football League. I mean, I'm just saying so to the 202 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: Texter who sent that text to me, probably sometime last October, 203 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: whatever it was, I'm going, man, pressure it. You might 204 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: be right. I was trying to give jj benefit of 205 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: the doubt of the dufus factor, even though from an 206 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: accuracy standpoint, it's not a bad analogy. But now based 207 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: on this, I'm going, Man's that's a let's just put 208 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: it this way. It's not impossible to get better, but 209 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: those are really significant hills to climb at this level 210 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: of professional football. They really, I mean, well not the 211 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: brightest bulb and has no touch or accuracy to such 212 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: a degree that we just we eliminated because I would 213 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: have thought, you know, front of me was like, well, 214 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: don't be afraid to eliminate the twenty seven yard pass. 215 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: You know, the idea that he's got to go over 216 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: top all the time. Sure, now, maybe over the middle 217 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: passes are actually harder in some ways, but you want 218 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: to talk about challenge ahead if you do not trust 219 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: your quarterback, even in his first year enough to include 220 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: the occasional over the middle pass where you eliminate it 221 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: from your system. You can't trust him to stay healthy, 222 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: you can't trust him to throw over the middle, and 223 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: you really can't trust his football intellect. Godspeed in your effort. 224 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: And if the other quarterback who's allegedly going to compete 225 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: for the job in training camp this year is listening 226 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: to this program live or via podcast later, this should 227 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: be your inspiration to not be afraid to come here 228 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: to say, even if they don't proclaim that the job 229 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: is mine, I've got an excellent chance based on everything 230 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm hearing and reading to indeed win the job. Let's 231 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: do this. Let's get our first pause in again. We'll 232 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: continue to keep an eye on men's Olympic hockey. Is 233 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: it still zero zero? We had? We had a good 234 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: chance there. We're about almost halfway through period two. Looks 235 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: like shots on goal. We're up sixteen fourteen, fairly even 236 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: there and no score for either club. And it's what 237 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: we talked about with Louis yesterday. Sweden is plucky, they 238 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: are dangerous, and it's best one. It's that best of seven, 239 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: it's best one. It's what makes Olympic hockey, I think great, 240 00:15:36,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: but it also is what makes Olympic hockey extremely dangerous. 241 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: Working on my verification code as we speak for a 242 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: hip cricket. Let's see so if I can get that 243 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: in there, see what kind of reaction we're getting via 244 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: the rash Shaw and Bryant k f A and text line. 245 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Do you want to remind you that? Of course? Does 246 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: this now every day? The first three times I do it, 247 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: No matter that the number is accurate, it doesn't matter. 248 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: It makes your I start. It's basically says, shut everything 249 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: down and start over. It's the most maddening I said before, 250 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: the most maddening concept. Nothing brings a show to a 251 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: quicker halt these days. Maybe that's what they're trying to do. 252 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the bit. I'm not exactly sure, but I'll 253 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: try to get to it because I want to hear 254 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: what the folks have to say. Because I'm here, I'm 255 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: assuming we're gonna hear from the mcbowbos, who're gonna say, 256 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: why do you have to do this? Why do you 257 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: have to take these? They come to me, Oh, do 258 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: we have pay dirt? In Cortina, Milano, The United States 259 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: of America have taken a one zero lead over Sweden 260 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: with eight fifty seven ago in the second period. I 261 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: looked up and the puck was in the back of 262 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: the net. I don't know who shot it. Taking a 263 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: look here, I think Hughesy had something to say. Of 264 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: course he did. Good pass there? Good shot? Was that deflected? 265 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: Does Lark? Who is that? Oh? That was it was tipped? Yeah, 266 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: no question, Beauty Larkin pass Markstrom one nil USA, the 267 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: all important first goal in a game that's been very 268 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: nerve wracking. I think it's fair to say the hughes 269 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: brothers get the assists. There you go. Should I text 270 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: garn right now, see if I get a reaction. Should 271 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: I try to get a go, get him going and 272 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: saying why is this game so close? You could, yeah, 273 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: but then he'd be the second person in this segment 274 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: to have a meltdown about the text. You started it 275 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: right about that, and then he would have one in Italy. 276 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: You are one hundred percent correct. It's frustrating. Thanks for 277 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: the spoiler alert, jerk. You didn't know you were supposed 278 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: to to let people know that, Yeah, we're going real time, baby. 279 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: We've always got the policy of this station or this program, 280 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: at least especially in twenty twenty six. Is we never 281 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: apologize for covering the story or following the story. And 282 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: God bless you. We love your loyalty. But if you 283 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: find that a burden or you find that surprising, that's 284 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: not on us, that's unfortunately on you. Although this could 285 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: be a bit, you know, it's also could be possible. 286 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: That's the way it goes. I wanted to get to 287 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: some of the uh oh, I did look up Bobby 288 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: Douglas's quarterback rating his first year. Yeah, our guys was 289 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: like twenty points better, although it looks like Douglas only 290 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: through thirteen passes his first year, even though he was 291 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: in twelve games, which also tells you how little they 292 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: trusted out. I mean, I guess you could say in 293 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: the Bears case, it wasn't that they just didn't trust 294 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: him to throw over the middle. They didn't trust him 295 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: to throw at all. So eventually he threw more. But 296 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: I think we our guy had a better even though 297 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: our our guys quarterback rating was one of the worst 298 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: in recent memory for a highly tooted first year quarterback, 299 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: definitely better than the left handed chucker Bobby Douglas and 300 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: in a covenant cleanup, he did not run for a 301 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: thousand yards. He stand for nine nine sixty eight, which 302 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: at a record. That's what it was the quarterback yards 303 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: at the time, and since then, according to his Wikipedia, 304 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: half a dozen qbs have rushed for thousand years. That's 305 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: it. It wasn't a thousand, it was near it. He set 306 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: a record. And I think I've said this before. You 307 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: know your career is not meant to be when the 308 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: best game you ever play, perhaps the only really good 309 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: game you play, nobody remembers it because in the same game, 310 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: a player for the opposing team died on the field. 311 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: Oh a wide receiver, yea, Chuck Hughes. We've talked about 312 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: this before. I think it ended up being a heart 313 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: attack or it was some heart issue that was unknown, 314 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: and Douglas looked like a combination of John Unitas. I 315 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: got to do some dated quarterback references because this is 316 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: way back then, and maybe Sid Luckman and the Bears 317 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: won the game and Chuck Hughes. I watched it. I 318 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: remember it vividly. It still haunts me what I remember. 319 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it does because they actually put him 320 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: on a this again smartened days. Okay, so they put 321 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: him on a stretcher on the field. He collapses on 322 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: the field. They put him on a stretcher and as 323 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: they're wheeling him out, one of his arms just flops 324 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: off of the stretcher and you could see it was lifeless. 325 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: There was nothing going on with him, and he passed 326 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: away on the field. Horrific story. A heart attack, yeah, 327 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: re existing severe arterieria. Yeah there. Yeah, a cute coordinary 328 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: Thrombos twenty eight years old in the final minute of 329 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: the game, final minutes of the game, after thirty two 330 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: yard catch man by Hughes. Yeah, oh I didn't remember that. Wow. Yeah, 331 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: look up Bobby Douglas's numbers in that game. He was 332 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: a maestro. We didn't even recognize him. So that's not 333 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: Bobby Douglas. Who is that guy? And that was it? 334 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean that that really I think explains it. Dan JG. 335 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: Will you please reiterate the horrible road conditions, accidents piling 336 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: up minute by minute. Well, yeah, it's it's you know, 337 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a very very 338 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: dangerous commute. I don't think it's just the snow and 339 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: the timing of it, because like here in Saint Louis Park, 340 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: visibility is like twelve feet. It's a snow globe. It's 341 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: any uh started out what rain overnight and win and 342 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: I thought we dodged it, but no, it was the 343 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: calm before the sonami. The temperatures start going down enough 344 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: to where you get you can get snow in a 345 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: lot of places. The winds are blowing around and it's 346 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: been a mess. But I also think because we've had 347 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: a relatively dry stretch, I do think you start relaxing 348 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: a little bit. Not that you think it's over in 349 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota in terms of the winter and you know, mid 350 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: to late February, but I think you do get out 351 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: of it a little bit. You go, Okay, we're in 352 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: a different mode right now, and now we feel like 353 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: we've walked back into the belly of the winter beast. 354 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's I'm assuming the commute is nightmarish. It 355 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: certainly looks that way in our location and through other 356 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 1: parts of the the Twin Cities as well. Let's see 357 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: if a lot of good texts coming in. But we 358 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: got to stay on schedule, don't we. Let's do that. 359 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: We'll stay on schedule. A lot of good quarterback texts 360 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: coming in as we reintroduce, are ongoing. We need a 361 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: special We need some sort of a vital fancy and 362 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: a name for our quarter vikings quarterback investigation. What can 363 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: we call it? It's an ongoing investigation into what happened 364 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: a year ago where we're headed the whole bit because 365 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: then it seems it gives it more gravitas, as we 366 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: say in the business, and that's what we're back to. 367 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: We we're responsible about leaving it alone for a while, 368 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: but I felt we were not doing this story justice 369 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: if we do not acknowledge what Lewis wrote, because I 370 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: do think it's it's rather frightening, at least for me. 371 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: We should we mention that, you know, the US is 372 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: up one nil, yes, and when they go to break 373 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: second or a mission, we're going to call MIKKELETTI. Yes, 374 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: that'll probably be next segment. It probably well how much 375 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: time's left? Yeah, you're right about four and a half. 376 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: Oh that little okay? Yeah, yeah, So the plan is 377 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: a Kessler and Studio at five point thirty and if 378 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: he makes it, that is, and give him the option. 379 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: Though you know he's not very hardy, he's not as 380 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: hardy as he used to be true, so give him 381 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: the option if he would rather just do it by phone. 382 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: And then, as you mentioned, might as well check in 383 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: with our good friend Pat mcalletty between periods two and three. 384 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: Get his response to really both the Canada finish, which 385 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: was dramatic, and the US one nill lead over Sweden. 386 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: As we approach the end of period number two, stay tuned. 387 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: What do you think of Operation Purple Probe? Does that 388 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: sound too Morning show ish? Operation? I heard them part 389 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: of the probe. It's not bad one I liked the 390 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: best so far. Yeah, I was thinking, like CSI QB 391 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: it's kind of dated. Yeah, you can do that. CSI 392 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: even still on, doesn't matter, doesn't have to be No, 393 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: that's okay. That wouldn't bother me. Quarterback inquiry. No, not alliteration, 394 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: but it rhymes. Well. There's a few coming in, so 395 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on those. I do want to 396 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: get to some texts, and as guards he mentioned earlier, 397 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna at some point, maybe even this segment. Given 398 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: we're inside the final minute of period two US versus 399 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: Sweden Men's Olympic Hockey quarterfinal round, Pat mcletty is going 400 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: to join us for some instant we call it instant reaction. 401 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: I had to remind I had to text Louis. He 402 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: forgot Canada was on earlier today. I texted him about 403 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: a couple of moments in that game, and wow he was. 404 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: He was on the I think on the exercise bike 405 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: or the treadmill, and then sprinted upstairs to see the 406 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: third period pariod. What is it on? Well, here's the 407 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: other thing he did. I texted him, and then he 408 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: text back saying I just tried to call you and 409 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: my phone had not wrong. I know that happens, but 410 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: here's what I found out. He he called. I don't 411 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: even know how he has this number my cafe and 412 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: I heart work number, which I don't even I don't 413 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: even think it was still plugged in. And he left 414 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: a voicemail on that thinking he was leaving me a 415 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: voicemail on myself. I didn't even know you could do that. 416 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: I neither. I had no idea through two or up 417 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: one zero. All right, I'm gonna call Pat here. Yeah, 418 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: call Pat. Meanwhile, I'll get to a couple of texts 419 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: Vikings are saying, soos up for a Sam Donald move 420 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: and not the good kind like the Seahawks made, but 421 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: one like the Jets made. Jets gave up on Donald 422 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: after three uneven seasons, and look at him now. Vikings 423 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: are setting up to get out of McCarthy after three seasons, 424 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: of which he will have played two. Look for him 425 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: to emerge with the Rams in about twenty twenty eight 426 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: as he takes the mantle from Matthew Stafford and gives 427 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: and given the Vikings history of misery hoisting the Lombardi 428 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: that's from doctor Mike. Very well played there, Cels we 429 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: had Cousins played worse under Koc than he did under Kubiak. 430 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: Maybe Koc is not the genius the locals think he is. 431 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: M Line of sight might refer to the tip passes 432 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: that he seems to get every game he can't see 433 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: over the line. I think Jmak will be fine if 434 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: he puts more face paint on. More face paint on. 435 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Isn't the bigger question? How did they miscalculate his readiness 436 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: to play? No question, that's a significant part of it, 437 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: which we have explored. I thought we had a new 438 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: hip with it in the while head coach. How on 439 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: earth did they miss that drastically. Well, that particular point 440 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: does gain, I think, sustain the same issue or even 441 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: reinforce it the idea that we know they were spectacularly 442 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: wrong on thinking he was as ready as they hope 443 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: to just throw him in there, and we see how 444 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: unready he is, and we find out another symptom of 445 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: that unreadiness, and that is that they can't even let 446 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: him throw the ball over the middle. So it all 447 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: kind of works together. Let's go to the puck deck desk, 448 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: say Pat mcalletty, joining us via the Kinetical Water Systems hotline. 449 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: After two periods US one Sweden nothing. Thanks for helping 450 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: us out today, give me your analysis and just sort 451 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: of your the vibe you've picked up through the first 452 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: two periods of this game. 453 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: Well, Dan, and thanks for having me, uh, and and 454 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: great to talk to you. I I thought the United 455 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 2: States needed something and and sometimes in a game, uh, 456 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: when you're just kind of stuck, you you need something 457 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: to get you going, whether it be a big hit, 458 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: a big save, a goal of something. And and and 459 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: I thought I thought the US started playing a lot 460 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: better after they scored that goal. And I think it 461 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: energized them because in that first period. You know, Sweden 462 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: kind of kind of held the held the game. I thought, 463 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: you know, they got pucks in deep, they battled and 464 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: and and when the US was fortunate acting in that 465 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: first period, it was kind of a one and done 466 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: and so but I but I thought the US picked 467 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: it up late in the second period, and you know 468 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: that that goal for them was was huge. 469 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: Uh, describe that keep that play for US. I was 470 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: looking down at my notes or check out something online. 471 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: Guards he did play the Olympic sounder indicating, uh, breaking 472 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: Olympic Hockey news in this case. What happened on that play, Well. 473 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: It was a set play right off the faith off. 474 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: If you win the draw, you know where you're going 475 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: to go as a player. If you lose the draw, 476 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: it's it's different. Well, Dylan Larkin wins the draw cleanly 477 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 2: back to the point, and and and Jack Hughes was 478 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: lined up as a winger, you know, down low. Well, 479 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: as soon as that draw was run, he peeled back 480 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: to the back to the blue line and and got 481 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: the pass from I don't know who made that pass 482 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: to him audio one of the defensemen right and and 483 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: and he shot it right away, And and Larkin knowing 484 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: his responsibility, he goes to the front of the net, 485 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: and you know, it was a It was a beautiful play. 486 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: It's a set play that they talked about that they 487 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: you know, that they prepare for, and they executed it perfectly. 488 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: And Larkin gets a piece of it and tips it 489 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: in and won nothing. 490 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: You think, I mean again, one nothing is not a 491 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: prohibitive lead. You know how this stuff goes. It's best 492 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: of one, it's not best of seven. So what's the 493 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: key in your mind for the US to bring this 494 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: thing home in the third period? 495 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: I think they have to be aggressive because you know, 496 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: you know, when big games like this, you're it's almost 497 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: like a chess match. You're you're almost like, I don't 498 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: want to make a mistake. I can't make a mistake. Well, 499 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: I think for the US, they you know, they would 500 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: be better off, in my opinion, just being a little 501 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: bit more aggressive, getting getting the puck in and getting 502 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: some sustained time in the offensive zone, because you don't 503 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 2: want to give Sweden. Sweden did a great job there 504 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: there there. Defenseman. You know, we talked about the US 505 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: defenseman and Hughes and McAvoy and you know, these offensive guys. 506 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: But but Sweden has a group of d that loves 507 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: to jump up in the play and get that what 508 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: we call the fourth man involved the three forwards and 509 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: the defenseman, and and they do a really good job 510 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: of that. So you know, I think the US needs 511 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: to be a little bit more aggressive and play with 512 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: a little bit more confidence and not be timid, if 513 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: you will. And if they do that, I you know, 514 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. Both goaltenders are playing great. 515 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: Well, you played the game for a long time, right, 516 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: I think you're describing if you play the game of 517 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: we're not going to make mistakes and trust try to 518 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: protect the lead, that's usually the time you start making 519 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: stupid mistakes. Right, That's that's that almost is the prescription 520 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: for it, right, It's. 521 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: You know, it's like going into a prevent defense. You 522 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 2: see quarterbacks throw the ball downfield, and you know they 523 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: pick up all these yards and all of a sudden, 524 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: from their twenty they are there at the other twenty. 525 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: And and so I think, uh, and and with the 526 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: players that the US have, there's no reason why they 527 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: can't play with a little more sweger if if if 528 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: that's the right word, you want to use and and 529 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: use the skill that they have, because you know, I 530 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: I think if they do that, they're they're going to 531 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: be in good shape. If not, and you have to 532 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: also realize the the the US defense is not the 533 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: biggest decoor. And if Sweden gets in on them and 534 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: starts banging and like like they did in the first period, 535 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: well that's going to tire the US out. It's going 536 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: to give opportunities for for Sweden to make plays and 537 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: and and they have they have forwards up front who 538 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: are as good as the US. So you know, I 539 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: just like to see them be a little bit more 540 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: aggressive in the third and and take your chances. 541 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: All right. The earlier game, which I know you were 542 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: watching and I was as well, Canada ends up coming 543 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: from behind late goal and regulation to tie and then 544 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: they win it in ot uh the three on three, 545 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: OT four to three. How much trouble did you think 546 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: Canada was in. 547 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 2: I wasn't worried at all. You know, when they were down, 548 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: I just like, Okay, who are they gonna put out there? 549 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: They get they get the game time goal, yeah, you know, 550 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 2: I mean they can be celebrating he McDavid McKinnon, Marner, 551 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 2: you know, the list goes on. They are so loaded 552 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: up front. What concerned me in that game for Canada 553 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: is that I don't think they defended very well and 554 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 2: and that could be you know, I was worried about Bennington, 555 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: you know, at the start of the tournament. Well more 556 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: so now, you know, after watching the Canadian defense, I 557 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 2: just didn't think I thought they were a little loose 558 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: and and and they gave they gave the checks opportunity 559 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: to win the game, and and and and Bennington bailed 560 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: Canada out, especially in overtime when they had a great opportunity. 561 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: So but but up front, Canada is uh is ridiculously scary, 562 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: and and they are going to be awfully, awfully tough 563 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: to beat. 564 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: The wasn't being of tipped goal? Wasn't there This is 565 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: a time goal on a pretty nifty tip as well, 566 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: where the goalie at that point then had no chance 567 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: where with where the puck ended up. 568 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Devin Tave's shot from the point, and uh and 569 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 2: and and that and that puck was if you if 570 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: you saw the shot, it was going wide when a 571 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: half three feet and and Suzuki Uh, you know, great hands, 572 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 2: Uh finds the puck and and and tips it by him, 573 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 2: and so you know, you know there's another guy that 574 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: even mentioned Suzuki, right, and and you know he's he's 575 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: he's you know, another great player. And so you know 576 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: what what might be concerning for for Canada. Uh, you know, 577 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: we don't know the status is Sydney Crosby who got 578 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 2: hurt and it did not look good just right, knee 579 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: didn't didn't come back in the in the in the 580 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 2: second period, uh, and then all the third periods. So 581 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: you know that, I mean, you know, Crosby is as 582 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 2: good as it gets when you get to you know, 583 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 2: the medal round and and so you know, we'll have 584 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: to we'll have to see, you know, his status for 585 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 2: the next game. But but Canada is really really good 586 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: and really fun to watch. 587 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: The latest reporting I've seen out of Milan is that 588 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: he's going to undergo imaging, which doesn't necessarily mean it's 589 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: a severe injury, but you know, as a sign there's 590 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: there's concern. Uh just described his lower body. It looks 591 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: certainly look like me. Here's a quote from John Cooper. 592 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: You just rarely see it. And so for him, something 593 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: definitely went wrong, but he just thought he wasn't in 594 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: a position to help the team for the rest of 595 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: the night and we'll route real value it. After that, 596 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: it looked to me like he he he got jarred 597 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: and then he tried to sort of skate it off, 598 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: and then he ended up getting sandwiched I think by two. 599 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and then you know, and and that 600 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 2: it started, uh well, he he that was a hard 601 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 2: shift for him because he got smoked in the neutral zone, 602 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, right right by the you know, the face 603 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: up circle, and when flying all the way into the boards, 604 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: gets up and then the guy who hit him, Dudess 605 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 2: is uh. I mean, he hits his heart as anybody 606 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: in the National Hockey League, and and and he hit 607 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: him twice and and I think the second time is 608 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: when you know, his leg kind of went funny. And 609 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's just very unfortunate for Canada because you know, 610 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're going to find a better 611 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: leader overall in that tournament than Sydney Cross me. And 612 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: so that would that that would be a blow for 613 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: Canada if they lose him. 614 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: How big a gap do you believe exists, if any, 615 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: between Canada and the United States from in terms of 616 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: the team makeup and the. 617 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: Talent not much because I would take the US decor 618 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 2: over Canada any day of the week. And you know, 619 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: the goaltending, Uh, the US. You know, the US is 620 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 2: really three guys that could be number one. Uh, they're 621 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: that good. And in Canada, I mean they're relying on 622 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 2: on On, Dinnington and and and so I would give 623 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: the edge to the US on their d and their goaltending. 624 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: And you know, listen, we talked about the big names, 625 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 2: and they are the big names, right McKinnon uh, and 626 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: and McDavid and Crosby and celebraty. Uh. The US is 627 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: probably deeper up front one through four, but their stars 628 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 2: are a little. 629 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: Bit ahead of the game. So, uh, wasn't there another 630 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: who else got challenged? Was it Finland who had come Well. 631 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't see the final one that and you 632 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 2: might know if they won more. 633 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: Than I I think that one guards you look up, 634 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: I think they were behind also had to come back 635 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: and win. Now was down to zero with like five minutes. Swiss, 636 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: That's right, it was the Swiss. That's exactly it. It's 637 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: exactly it. 638 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then you know Slovakia, they you know, they 639 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: are the surprise of the tournament right now. You know, 640 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,959 Speaker 2: they beat Germany today six to two, and whoever plays them? 641 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: Uh? 642 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: And you know, if the US goes out and win, 643 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: it looked like Finland and Slovakia, that's going to be 644 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 2: a heck of a game. I'm you know, I'm telling you, 645 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 2: Oh I believe Well, wait, no, I got that wrong. 646 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: I got that wrong. I think it would be Slovakia 647 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: and UH in the US and then Canada Finland in 648 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: the semi final. 649 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: Argie double checked the pairings. Is I've actually I've because 650 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: they received Yeah, yeah that's true, because yeah, the US 651 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: is a two seed, right, yeah, so it would have 652 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: to correct. 653 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: They would end up playing. 654 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: They would play Slovakia. If US wins, they play Slovakia. 655 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: Canada would play Finland. If Sweden comes back and wins, 656 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: it'll be Canada. It would be Canada versus Sweden. 657 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, I just talking about, you know, 658 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 2: before the tournament, Canada, US, Canada, US. Yes, but I 659 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 2: tell you, you know, the Finns are awfully good team. They 660 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: could be down Florida one or up for to one. 661 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 2: They don't change their game. They play the same way. 662 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 2: Unfortunately for them. Barkovs who plays for the Florida Panthers 663 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: six four, two hundred and twenty pounds centiment. I mean 664 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: just a stud uh you know, is not playing in 665 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: this Olympics. So but but still they're they're awfully offly 666 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: good team. 667 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: Tell me what tops Olympic hockey in all seriousness, I mean, 668 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: I love that it's best of one. Mean, look, I 669 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: love the series. I understand best of seven and then 670 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: the twists and the turns and how you respond to 671 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: what the other team does. But when you factor in 672 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: the talent, you factor in the drama of the fact 673 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: that you just have to you know, win ones. I 674 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: factor in the relative lack of nonsense. There's been some 675 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: pushing and shoving, but still very nonsense. I don't think 676 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: anything tops it. Well, it's a source. 677 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 2: Of subject with me, Dan, because I was I got 678 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: hurt five days before the ninety two Olympics, which knocked 679 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 2: me out of the Olympics. But no, there is nothing 680 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 2: nothing like it. And you know, you're playing for your 681 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 2: country and you don't you just have no care factor 682 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: for the guy you're you're going up against, and it's 683 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 2: it's you know, And that's with every sport there, right, 684 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 2: with every Olympic. True, and that's why the Olympics is 685 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 2: so great. And uh, and you want to get the 686 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: goal for your individual self, but on the other hand, 687 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: you're playing for your country and uh and your teammates 688 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: and and there's nothing there's nothing like it. 689 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. The good news is for all the pre Olympics 690 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: fodder and chatter about all the locker room is going 691 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: to be ready and the and the rank and all 692 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: that stuff. It's I I the beauty of it is 693 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: to play itself. The competition itself has rendered all that meaningless. 694 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: Nobody cares at this point, right yeah. 695 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 2: No, no, exactly And and you know, I mean Sweden 696 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 2: US today. If Favors got a deck Eric Sinek, well, 697 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 2: so be it, right and and and that's and that's 698 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: how it should be. You should just not have any 699 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 2: care actor for your opponent when it comes to playing 700 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 2: and competing and winning and and uh. You know, so 701 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: it's great. 702 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: What did this was not why we wanted you on, 703 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: But now that we do have you on, get to 704 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: the bottom of what Louie did or didn't do to 705 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: you when it comes to international play, because I ran 706 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: it by him. He seemed completely gobsmacked. By like he 707 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 1: didn't have any idea what the hell it was about. 708 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: And all I had was second and third hand reports 709 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: that come up. Yeah, you had brought it up on 710 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: Beyond the Pond. So what what what exactly are we 711 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: talking about here? 712 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna I'm going to speak in defense of 713 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 2: Louie because you have to remember he's the general manager 714 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 2: of a team trying to, you know, put all the 715 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 2: pieces together. I mean, this is at the end of 716 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 2: training camp and we we had an exhibition game against 717 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 2: the US Olympic team, the team that was going in 718 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 2: eighty eight to Calgary, and so that lineup that night 719 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 2: was really the majority of the guys that were going 720 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 2: to get sent down to the American League. And so 721 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 2: we played, we played the US I had a great team. 722 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 2: We smoked them. And so after the game, Dave Peterson, 723 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 2: who was the head coach of Team USA, said, hey, 724 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, if I can get you, would you would 725 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 2: you come? And I said, for sure, you know, I'd 726 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: rather go play in the Olympics and go down in 727 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 2: the minors, right And and so that conversation led the 728 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 2: US team talking to Louis and it just didn't work out, 729 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: and that's the story. You know. 730 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: Have you ever run as we know it? Have you 731 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: ever run by Louis later? Have you guys ever had 732 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: a you know, because. 733 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 3: You know, Dan, that was the best thing that ever 734 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 3: happened to me, because if I would have played for 735 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 3: the US team in that Olympic, that would that would 736 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 3: not have allowed me to play on the Italian team. Interesting, 737 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 3: you know, because you cannot play for two countries, and 738 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 3: so I was not a rostered member of Team USA. 739 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 3: So that allowed me to get my passport, become an 740 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 3: Italian citizen and was able to play on the Italian 741 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 3: national team. 742 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: So Louis was actually doing you a favor. 743 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 2: He did me the biggest favor ever, no question about it. 744 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: And by the way, that eighty eighteen was not very good. 745 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say recollection. I was 746 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: in Calgary. 747 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 2: That's why they probably asked me it was scoring, and 748 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 2: you know, but they were they got smoked and uh 749 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: and it was it was not good. So it was 750 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 2: probably you know, you know, Dan, sometimes things just work 751 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 2: out for they sometimes they do and and uh, you know, 752 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 2: and listen, I was not like, Okay, I can't go 753 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 2: I'll go down, you know, and uh. And my employer 754 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 2: was the Minnesota North Start, so I had to do 755 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 2: what they said and we did it. 756 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. I know you want to watch 757 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: period number three, which indeed has begun, and we'll be 758 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: in touch. Thanks for the time, Pat. 759 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 2: Sounds great. 760 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: Take care. Thanks for shing me. Pat mcletty helping us 761 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: out as only he can do. Third period has begun. 762 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: Looks like another good scoring opportunity. Decent scoring opportunity for 763 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: the US ends with the puck being smothered around the net, 764 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: so USA still up one nil less than one minute 765 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: into period number three. We'll keep you posted on that. 766 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: Kessler in Studio is scheduled for five point thirty back 767 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: in just