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Speaker 2: It's not Friday, it's Tuesday, but we're gonna do Tech

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Speaker 2: Dave Hatter coming up at six thirty. Congressman Warren Davidson

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Speaker 2: right now. Briga McCowan Hudson Institute Professor at Miami University.

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Speaker 2: Scoop with Bright Barton. News Today Tech editor Colin Maydine returns,

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Speaker 2: this is an awesome development. Elon Musk is now labeling

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Speaker 2: because I am elated about this development because it confirmed

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Speaker 2: something I've been saying on the radio without confirmation for years,

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Speaker 2: guy in Texas who's on X saying some guy in

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Speaker 2: I got to chuck a lot of them anyhow. No,

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Speaker 2: it's some random dude in pick a country, Bangladesh. There's

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Speaker 2: sturing the pott of division in this country on social media.

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Speaker 2: And Elon Musk is just one guy doing on one platform.

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Speaker 2: I want this kind of feature on TikTok again. We'll

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Speaker 2: at six point thirty on that one as well. That

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Speaker 2: Dear God, will all the uh, the tiktoks and every

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Speaker 2: One commentator who knew that an Austrian has been running

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Speaker 2: Accorded to one who wrote one of the most openly

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Speaker 2: an account dubbed America first sixty seven thousand, almost sixty

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Speaker 2: Maga is dead ninety three thousand followers located in Europe somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Call you old fashioned, but I don't think folks from

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Speaker 2: This ex account called Warhamster twenty three thousand followers, wrote

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Speaker 2: showed the screenshot of where the account is. The United

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Speaker 2: Arab Emirates guy posting a Congo Leese man, our tax

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Speaker 2: money goes to Israel. He's not an American citizen. He's

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Speaker 2: funded with our taxpayer money. No it isn't. You're not

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Speaker 5: think that? Oh there there's an interesting source of information.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I might want to see what she has to say. Well, well,

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Speaker 5: it's just to start our emotions. Look at this idiot.

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Speaker 5: We I mean, you know, she's she doesn't make any.

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Speaker 5: What is she saying? So let's counter it with whatever?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's that's that's all this has turned into.

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Speaker 5: So you're right, you have to have a foundation that

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Speaker 5: teach us? Like directly, what did we hear them saying?

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Speaker 5: And if you grew up in a family and they're

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Speaker 5: and that's gonna be the default reaction that you're gonna

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Speaker 5: And so that's that's the thing we got to combat

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Speaker 5: when we're talking to people. We got to understand, Hey,

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Speaker 5: this is what we're dealing with, you know with where

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Speaker 5: where did you come from, how were you raised? Get

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Speaker 5: to know people if you're going to talk to them,

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Speaker 5: and and you know, find out what they're all about.

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Speaker 5: That way you understand, you know what you can say

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Speaker 5: and can't say, and how you can talk to them.

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Speaker 5: And by all means, you know, have conversations over to holidays.

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Speaker 5: You only get so many times running to people. You

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Speaker 5: don't have to be combative about it, you don't have

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Speaker 5: to be insulting, but understand that you know where their

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Speaker 5: people are coming from, so you know, you know to

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Speaker 5: find a little inroad here and there. And by all means,

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Speaker 5: please tell people when you talk to them, don't vote

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Speaker 5: Democrats have a great time off. Brian I'll talk to

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Speaker 5: you when you get back.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Tom, I truly appreciate it, and you have a

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Speaker 2: sorry for her, but not much of a level. He's

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Speaker 2: Extinction Rebellion, who decided it was prudent to protest what

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two bucks along with the other thirty

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Speaker 2: claimed the dye they used was a fluorescent, non toxic

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Speaker 2: tracking water flows, monitoring leaks, or, in the case of

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Speaker 2: Chicago's celebrating St. Patrick's Day. They claimed the dipos no

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Speaker 2: ecological threat. Sure looks like an ecological threat when you

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Speaker 2: have your water fluorescent green. They claim the stunt was

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Speaker 2: still designed to, in their words, draw attention to the

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Speaker 2: massive effects of climate collapse. I struggle with that phrase

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Speaker 2: climate collapse. I mean, it's raining outside, there's still a

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Speaker 2: climate out there. What would a complete climate collapse look

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Speaker 2: like where we have no climate? What does that mean? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This protest coincided with the end of coincided

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Speaker 2: with the end of that cop thirty UN climate conference

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Speaker 2: where they didn't even co two. At least that's my

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Speaker 2: boiled down conclusion on that. Yeah, they didn't do anything.

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Speaker 2: They all flew in, They all tore down the rainforest,

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Speaker 2: they all burned up tons of carbon flying in and

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Speaker 2: show for it. They also died fountains around Europe Genoa, Padova, Turin,

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Speaker 2: from the rialto bridge in Venice as well. Videto Province

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Speaker 2: Governor Luca Zia said that Thunberg and this extinction rebellion

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Speaker 2: stunt was a gesture that risks having consequences for the environment.

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Speaker 2: He also called.

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Speaker 3: It thank you.

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Speaker 2: There she is, you can hear it in her voice.

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Speaker 2: Governor also said the action was the disrespectful act towards

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Speaker 2: our city, its history and fragility. Greta Thunberg inventing an

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Speaker 2: act of environmental terrorism. Well, we can call it that,

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Speaker 2: can't we. She can call what's going on climate collapse.

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Speaker 2: I can call dying Venice green a well, act of

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Speaker 2: The victim said the shirt was sorry. The police said

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Speaker 2: weapon with intent to kill, felony first degree arson mister

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Speaker 2: Counting Jail under a he wasn't in front of Judge

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Speaker 2: Silverstein A seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars secured bond idiots.

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Speaker 2: Let's see A couple of suspected amorous burglars apparently couldn't

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Speaker 2: wait till they got home, decided to have a little

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Speaker 2: the corner of the police. This described as X rated

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Speaker 2: incident unfolded in the early hours of October twenty fifth

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Speaker 2: at Moncherie Restaurant, Scottsdale, Arizona, Brian Morrow and Carrissa Sukinik.

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Speaker 2: At least that looks like how it's pronounced apparently forced

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Speaker 2: cash register, but as soon as the activity began, as

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Speaker 2: soon as they broke into the restaurant, that's when they

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Speaker 2: decided to well get it on. Cop said the pair

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Speaker 2: was caught on the surveillance video camera, Yes, says doing

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Speaker 2: the nasty. What do you think that means? John doing

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Speaker 2: the nasty? Then they apparently scattered fl hours everywhere and

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Speaker 2: then ransacked the bar before leaving. Employees discovered the restaurant

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Speaker 2: had been burglarized after coming to work the next day,

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Speaker 2: telling local media they stole about four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: bucks from the register. They also made a discovery yes

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Speaker 2: the security footage which shows the couple having sex with

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Speaker 2: their faces in full view of the camera, allowing the

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Speaker 2: Scott's out to Police Department detectives to easily identify Moro

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Speaker 2: and the second egg woman by viewing the footage and

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Speaker 2: gathering tips from the community, They arrested the two for

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Speaker 2: burglary and booked them into the Maricopa County Jail. What

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Speaker 2: do you think word's going to get fully out that

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Speaker 2: there are video cameras pretty much literally everywhere you are,

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Speaker 2: whatever you're doing is going to be caught on a

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Speaker 2: video camera. We have to walk there. What was that inhabited?

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Speaker 2: One more time? Thank you, Sean's in on the joke. Okay,

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Speaker 2: don't snort ketamine for five years in a row for breakfast, lunch,

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Speaker 2: and dinner, or you're going to pee out your bladder. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what happened. A person described as a tradesman

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Speaker 2: was addicted to ketamine, and that addiction so severe he

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Speaker 2: would snort lines for breakfast while operating machinery at work,

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Speaker 2: and this went on for a long time. Alex Logan

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Speaker 2: thirty one and said he would sniff ketamine off his

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Speaker 2: phone on the way to work, and then, of course,

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Speaker 2: being a tradesman, would be climbing scaffolding, driving scissors, lists,

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Speaker 2: all under the influence seven grams a day ketamine habit

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Speaker 2: described as eventually shredding his bladder so badly he had

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Speaker 2: to curl up like a fetus on the shower floor

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Speaker 2: just to yearnate. Everyone was aware of this, family and

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Speaker 2: friends noted his problem. He was a self confessed dangerous,

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Speaker 2: ridiculous behavior. He knew he was doing badly, but he

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Speaker 2: just continued to do it, calling him an addict wasn't

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Speaker 2: until Alex started feeling unusual pains in his back and bladder.

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Speaker 2: He began to recognize how damaging this ket addiction was.

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Speaker 2: Developing alternative cistitis, which is the shedding of the bladder

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Speaker 2: lining until it's effectively shrunken or destroyed. He said he

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Speaker 2: began experiencing electric shock bladder pains, causing him to rake

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Speaker 2: Gugs are bad. Fivety six fifty five KRSD talk Station

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Speaker 2: Tech Tuesday coming up at six thirty. Calls are welcome.

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Speaker 2: Got some other tech news to talk about after the

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Speaker 2: top of the air news among other topics. I hope

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Speaker 2: you can stick around six o five a fifty about

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Speaker 2: GARSD talk Station. Ryan Thomas, wishing everyone a very happy

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Speaker 2: Tuesday and any very happy Thanksgiving. Last day of work

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Speaker 2: this week. Still waiting to find a news covering for me. Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I hope someone's covering for me tomorrow, Sean McMahon covering

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Speaker 2: for the vacationing Joe Strekker, who I hope is enjoying

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Speaker 2: his time off. I always enjoy hearing from you five one, three, seven, four,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Shawn. He's updating the page currently, so yesterday's podcast

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Speaker 2: will be there. Christopher Smithman and Money Monday's Brian James

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Speaker 2: should be momentarily available if you're interested. Of course, I

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Speaker 2: always enjoy hearing from smith Maman. He was on just

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Speaker 2: on fireos he usually is. I think he was a

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Speaker 2: little heightened on in terms of the flame scale yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Coming up bottom this hour, we got a special edition

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Speaker 2: of Tech Friday on a Tuesday, so it's Tech Tuesday

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Speaker 2: with Dave Hatter. Interest I says, Dave Hatter says how

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Speaker 2: to not get scammed on Black Friday. Plus he apparently

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Speaker 2: has some cool tech gadgets and gifts to recommend this year,

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Speaker 2: and again I have to imagine they don't involve Internet

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Speaker 2: of Things. We'll see one hour from now, Congressman Warren

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Speaker 2: Davidson returns. We've got a multitude of topics, and since

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Speaker 2: he served his country proudly, maybe we'll ask him about

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Speaker 2: this idea that service members should refuse orders and a

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Speaker 2: real gray area on that one, as we talked about yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's one thing to say, don't you know,

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Speaker 2: ignore illegal orders? What is illegal? In the context of

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Speaker 2: this vagary that we have with regard to waging of war?

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Speaker 2: What is illegal? If I ask you, is it illegal

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Speaker 2: for Trump to blow up drug boats off the shores

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Speaker 2: of Venezuela, and you say yes, and I ask you,

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Speaker 2: what is the legal basis for your statement that it

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Speaker 2: is legal? Then you got to engage in that conversation,

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Speaker 2: don't you Did you get an opinion from lawyers that

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Speaker 2: are versed in international law and laws of warfare like

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Speaker 2: the Constitution? For example, I could ask you the same

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Speaker 2: thing about maybe Vietnam. I don't know. Maybe there was

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Speaker 2: an authorization for you some military force there, but it

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Speaker 2: never was a war that was declared, even though we

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Speaker 2: lost almost fifty five thousand US soldiers during that what

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Speaker 2: i'll call war. So it's a very complicated, multi layered conversation.

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Speaker 2: We have to have, and I'm of the mind that

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's appropriate or right or lawf well

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Speaker 2: personally for Trump to blow up boats off the coast

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Speaker 2: of Venezuela and we have no declaration of war there

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Speaker 2: or even an authorization for you some military force. We

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Speaker 2: can argue about it, but it hasn't been resolved, you see,

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Speaker 2: So what is lawful? Maybe docgor SMC. Davison can offer

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Speaker 2: insight into that. BRIGHA mccow and Hudson Institute's Brigham McCowan

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Speaker 2: Charged Conversation Podcast Brigham Account. He'll be at seven thirty

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Speaker 2: in studio talking about energy policy. Eight oh five the

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Speaker 2: Inside Scoop with bright Bart News. We're gonna be talking

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Speaker 2: to tech editor Colin Maydan about Musk and his new

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Speaker 2: awesome feature on X. I talked about it the last hour.

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Speaker 2: You now know where the people are posting from, or

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Speaker 2: you now know that a Trump maga supporting X account

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Speaker 2: is actually a guy in Bangladesh, among other revelations stirring

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Speaker 2: the pot division in our country. Thank you foreign actors.

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Speaker 2: At least thank you Elon Musk. One of multitudes of

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Speaker 2: social media platforms is at least letting you know where

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Speaker 2: the people are who are stirring the potted division. Plus

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Speaker 2: Meta shut down its own internal analysis and research showing

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Speaker 2: it well that this social media stuff is really dangerous

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Speaker 2: for users. The Daniel Davis Deep Die following Colin me

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Speaker 2: and he'll come on at eight thirty. We've got a

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Speaker 2: lot to talk about with him. So before I get

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Speaker 2: to other topics, I got mad on the line. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what Matt has to say. Matt, thanks for calling.

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Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday to you.

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Speaker 7: Oh morning, Ran. I was just sitting there doing a

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Speaker 7: puzzle and I felt something crawing on my hand. It

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Speaker 7: was a deer tick, so there's still Oh no, it was.

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Speaker 7: I got rid of it. But anyway, just before warn

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Speaker 7: everybody they're still out there.

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Speaker 2: That's creepy.

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Speaker 7: I want to comment on a couple of things you

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Speaker 7: said articles usually yesterday. One of them was on healthcare,

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Speaker 7: and I gotta say there I said, most of the

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Speaker 7: problem with healthcare is our own doing.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 7: When I was when I was younger, my health was

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Speaker 7: going it was okay, but it was starting to head

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Speaker 7: in a you know, bad way. So I realize I

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Speaker 7: got to stop this. So I studied and made changes.

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Speaker 7: Now Here we go fifty years later. My health is

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Speaker 7: really good. Whenever I do that annual physical and have

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Speaker 7: the blood drawl, yeah, everything looks good. No prescription drawn.

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Speaker 7: So that's you know, people need to I mean, I

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Speaker 7: know it's hard to do, but believe me, in the

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Speaker 7: long run, you're gonna be way better off.

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Speaker 2: Matt. I couldn't agree with you more. That's one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons I like what Robert F. Kennedy Junior is doing.

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Speaker 2: Junior's doing talking about you know, what we put into

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Speaker 2: our body now, I'm I don't want to gravitate toward vaccines.

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Speaker 2: It's a very controversial topic. But what you are eating,

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Speaker 2: processed foods, the type of the amount of sugars you

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Speaker 2: put in your body, all of this, I mean, you

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Speaker 2: really need to pay attention to that. And the healthier

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Speaker 2: you are and the better you eat, the less likely

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Speaker 2: it is you're going to have problems. Matt. I share

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Speaker 2: with you the results of the blood tests and everything.

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Speaker 2: I got four years in a row to look at

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Speaker 2: the last time I had a physical, which was fairly recently,

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Speaker 2: and I am infinitely better now than I was four

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Speaker 2: years ago, just because I changed my diet. No, I

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Speaker 2: haven't exercised yet, but I'll get around to that at

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Speaker 2: some day. But see, it's just really important. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: want to stay as far away from the healthcare system

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Speaker 2: as you can. And some suggested reading for you, Matt,

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Speaker 2: to confirm what you obviously know. There's a great Epic

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Speaker 2: or Epoch Times article by Shannon Stapleton November twenty third,

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Speaker 2: dated headline Spiraling costs and Broken Insurance What went wrong

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Speaker 2: with Obamacare subtitled mass subsidies, one side fits all system

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Speaker 2: has pushed up prices across the board or across the

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Speaker 2: broader medical insurance market. It's like a twenty page article

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Speaker 2: breaking down, point by point how we got to the perilous, disgusting,

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Speaker 2: failed place we are with America's healthcare. So if you

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Speaker 2: want a little additional reading to dive on into the

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Speaker 2: details on that, A strongly encourage It's Epic Times or

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Speaker 2: Epoch Times dot com. Anyhow, here's the sorry state of affairs.

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Speaker 2: I was talking with Tom earlier about being able to

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Speaker 2: engage in logic and reason critical thinking skills when analyzing

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Speaker 2: in the context of that Elon Musk showing you that, yes,

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Speaker 2: the division is being stirred by foreign actors. In many,

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Speaker 2: many cases, you have to be in a position to

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Speaker 2: be able to analyze what you're reading. Are you in

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Speaker 2: an echo chamber you just believe what you read, or

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Speaker 2: are you going to put critical thinking skills to it?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: Sadly, as I said to Tom, I doubt the children

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Speaker 2: la critic or have critical thinking skills. They don't engage

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Speaker 2: in critical thinking. They're just fed information and they're not

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Speaker 2: challenged by their thoughts and opinions, and of course they

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Speaker 2: don't challenge what's being fed to them. Pivot over to

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Speaker 2: math horror show at UC San Diego. Go ahead, editorial

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Speaker 2: board of The Wall Street Journal pointing out something really,

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Speaker 2: really pathetic, but very revealing. University of California San Diego

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Speaker 2: considered one of the nation's top public universities. Check out

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Speaker 2: US News and World Report. They rank EC California San

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Speaker 2: Diego number six, number six in college ranking. So how

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Speaker 2: comes this new University of California San Diego Faculty and

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Speaker 2: Administration Committee regarding student preparation report notes quote Over the

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Speaker 2: past five years, you see, San Diego has experienced a

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Speaker 2: steep decline in the academic preparation of its entering first

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Speaker 2: year students, particularly in mathematics, but also in writing and

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Speaker 2: language skills. This trend poses serious challenges both to student

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Speaker 2: success and in the university's instructional Mission Journalis says that's

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Speaker 2: an understatements. Do college students even know what these words mean?

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Speaker 2: Here's the fun facts, folks. One in eight of number

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Speaker 2: six rank you see, San Diego freshmen have math skills that,

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Speaker 2: in the words of the report from the faculty, fall

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Speaker 2: below middle school level middle school a thirtyfold increase since

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Average high school math GPA was an a

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Speaker 2: minus for students taking a middle school remedial course to

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Speaker 2: suggest rampid grade inflation in high schools. Oh no, really

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Speaker 2: effects exactly a bit of a The UC Board of

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Speaker 2: Regents move in May of twenty twenty to stop requiring

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Speaker 2: the SAT in the name of making admissions more equitable

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Speaker 2: and improving educational quality. All those pesky SAT scores earlier.

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Speaker 2: Faculty Senate report note of the SAT and act, in

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Speaker 2: their words, adds substantially to UC's ability to predict student success.

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Speaker 2: It's a predictive thing, folks. It also confirms the failure

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Speaker 2: of K through twelve education. Yeah, your teacher can give

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Speaker 2: you an a little Johnny, but go ahead take an

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Speaker 2: independent test. Take the SAT of the act. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if that a stands up to a little bit of scrutiny.

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Speaker 2: It's math T two is always four. There's the equation.

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Speaker 2: Work it out. This isn't some subjective, politically based thing.

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Speaker 2: It's pure simple two and two is four mathematics. There

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Speaker 2: is one answer. One answer is right, and the other

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Speaker 2: answers are, oh, that's right wrong U see San Diego

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Speaker 2: report corroborates or corroborates worries that scrapping the SAT would

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Speaker 2: erode a mission standard, noting that a mismatch between student

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Speaker 2: course level and grades and their actual levels of preparation.

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Speaker 2: In other words, they don't have the foundational skills to

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Speaker 2: even be in college. This report from the UC University

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Speaker 2: of California also blames the university's increased admission of students

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Speaker 2: from what they call under resourced high schools. General describes

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Speaker 2: this as a euphemism for schools with more minorities and

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Speaker 2: low income students. What the report doesn't say is that

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Speaker 2: the university may have increased admissions from these under resourced

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Speaker 2: high schools in an effort to circumvent the state ban

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Speaker 2: on racial preferences, and there is one. Declining student preparation

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Speaker 2: Here's widespread at the state's university is about half of

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Speaker 2: the UC campus. Math chairs say that, in their words,

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Speaker 2: the number of first year students that are unable to

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Speaker 2: start in college level pre calculus doubled over the last

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Speaker 2: five years. College level pre calculus was used to be there,

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Speaker 2: used to be a standard course for California's top high

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Speaker 2: school sophomores. Huh, they don't do that anymore. Twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 2: California started it down the slippery slope of declining standards

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Speaker 2: by dropping algebra as a requirement for eighth graders. Now

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Speaker 2: many of its top college students can't even add fractions.

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Speaker 2: Politicians blame rising unemployment among recent college grads on artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 2: In the journal's opinion, maybe the real problem is the

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Speaker 2: not so soft bigotry of ever lower expectations. Well amen,

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Speaker 2: middle school, I mean, think about that. The number six

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Speaker 2: rank college and whatever you you know, US news and

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Speaker 2: war reports say me you want about it, Oh, it's

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Speaker 2: a bunch of fabrications. They do this every year. It

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Speaker 2: is relied upon. But out of all the colleges they

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Speaker 2: come in at number six. One in eight can't do

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Speaker 2: and you may be wondering why the Justice Department's cases

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Speaker 1: Maybe.

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914
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916
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Speaker 2: he wasn't actually keyed up about indicting Comy and James,

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Speaker 2: so he stepped down, after which Miss Halligan was appointed

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Speaker 2: to the position. Well. Ms Sebert's exit gave Trump the

919
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Speaker 2: opportunity to name another interim prosecutor for a new three

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Speaker 2: month term. That was the Trump position, the administration's position,

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Speaker 2: But apparently that's not what the law says. According to

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923
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Speaker 2: have let the President evade the Senate confirmation process indefinitely

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Speaker 2: by stacking successes one hundred and twenty day appointments, and

925
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Speaker 2: that makes perfect sense. You can circumvent the Senate's advice

926
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927
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Speaker 2: So Halligan has been unlawfully serving. According to the judge conclusion,

929
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Speaker 2: her efforts on indicting Comy and James were unlawful exercises

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Speaker 2: it could, But based on the logic of the ruling,

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I agree, it is pretty scary. It's hard

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Speaker 1: you know, if you've used these things, you'll find that

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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to understand. Now, I'm not a teenager,

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Speaker 1: little crazy to see how impactful this stuff has been

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm not really that surprised to see that

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Speaker 1: having so many distractions thrown at you all the time

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Speaker 2: So it isn't always just younger. This was even more disturbing.

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Speaker 2: A guy named Jose Ignacio Tarrillo is cited in the

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Speaker 2: article thirty four years Old, says even though this band

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Speaker 2: it's really addictive. He says he hasn't been able to

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Speaker 2: quit the character AI program even though he no longer

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Speaker 2: Even at work. He takes his phone out every couple

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Speaker 2: He said, I don't even have anything new to say.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I do it. So these are

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1041
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Speaker 2: operating the delusion that they're expecting to hear from him.

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Speaker 2: It's a damn computer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It's interesting, Brian, because along with those same lines,

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Speaker 1: the New York Times just had an article what ope

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Speaker 1: and AI did when chat gpt us just lost touch

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Speaker 1: So I'm reading directly from the article. Teas. One of

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Speaker 1: the first signs came and Mark sam Altman, the chief

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Speaker 1: chat tpt. These people said the company's AI chatbot understood

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Speaker 1: there was no person ever had that was shedding light

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Speaker 1: on the mysteries of the universe. Oh lord, Yeah, it's uh,

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Speaker 1: you know that It goes on to say it was

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Speaker 1: a warning that there's something wrong with the chat bot. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah. It's you know, I think

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Speaker 1: that this is just mine. I'm not a psychiatrist, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I just I think what's happening is these

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Speaker 1: things want to answer your questions. Again, one of the

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Speaker 1: And I think because they want to please you, they

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Speaker 1: come away with this idea that or it knows me

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Speaker 1: better than any other person. Well, because it's telling me

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Speaker 1: what you want to hear, as opposed to perhaps the

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Speaker 1: reality of a situation. So yeah, I don't know, it's

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Speaker 1: not good. I don't have an answer for you. I

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Speaker 1: don't know where this all goes in the long run.

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Speaker 1: But when you see this sort of negative psychological effect

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Speaker 1: this stuff is having on people, it's kind of disturbing.

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Speaker 2: It is very disturbing. Most notably when they start to

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Speaker 2: egg you on and encourage you to engage in criminal behavior.

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Speaker 2: Self harm and even suicide has been well documented. You know,

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Speaker 2: one of the folks that was interviewed on this, I

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Speaker 2: think it was the guy who created this character AI

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Speaker 2: program quote. The difficulty logging off doesn't mean something is

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Speaker 2: wrong with the team. It means the tech worked exactly

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Speaker 2: as designed. And that is a very revealing statement. Points

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Speaker 2: out this is what they want, these tech companies. They

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Speaker 2: want you to spend hours, I guess engaging with artificial

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Speaker 2: intelligence for nefarious reasons. I don't know, but it's scary

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Speaker 2: as how. I only bring this up day because there's

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Speaker 2: parents out there, there's grandparents out there, maybe even young

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Speaker 2: people out there that might not fully appreciate what's going on.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you got to keep in mind the

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Speaker 2: whole time you're not dealing with a real person. That

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Speaker 2: in and of itself is enough to keep me from

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Speaker 2: engaging in a conversation with him. Sorry, Dave took you

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Speaker 2: down a road you weren't necessarily prepared for. No, you

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Speaker 2: were prepared for it. How to not get scammed on

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Speaker 2: Black Friday. We'll bring Dave back to talk about that

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Speaker 2: one after I mentioned my dear friends at Cover Sincy

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Speaker 2: covers enough. And sure, John Rollman to the team at Covers,

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Speaker 2: since you can point out all the what they call

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Speaker 2: that aren't covered. How about your out of pocket liability?

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Speaker 2: You know you could add a very affordable layer of

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Speaker 2: them regular day to day type of medical expenses. Yes,

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Speaker 2: have down the road, like which policy do I use?

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Speaker 2: That's a simple one. But if you get a claims denial,

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Speaker 2: do you want to spend a couple of hours on

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Speaker 2: the phone with an insurance company? Do you know what

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Speaker 2: on the challenge. See if they can do something better

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Speaker 4: This is fifty five krc an iHeartRadio station.

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Speaker 2: Sick forty one about krc A de talk station. Tech

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Speaker 2: Friday on a Tuesday, So Tech Tuesday with Dave had

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Speaker 2: our interest it dot com? All right, we know there

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Speaker 2: are scammers, thanks to you, Dave. Maybe we've all been

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Speaker 2: scammed ourselves, and it has a lot of it going

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01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 2: on in there. But how do we avoid getting scammed

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Speaker 2: on Black Friday? Specifically, all the sales are on and

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Speaker 2: I guess don't issle online or something.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you know, Brian, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I go quite that far, because I'm sure that's how

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Speaker 1: most people are going to shop.

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01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting it's.

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Speaker 1: The old education and awareness and skepticism, you know. I

1147
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: don't know if you recall. I think we talked about

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Speaker 1: this earlier this year, before Prime Day, a cybersecurity company

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01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: had done some research and found somewhere around two hundred

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01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: thousand fake websites set up to scam people around Amazon

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01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: Prime Day. So again, I don't think the average person

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01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: really understands how easy it is to spoof something. To

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01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: make some spoof in general would be making something look real.

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01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: It's safe, whether it's an email, a text message, a

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Speaker 1: phone number, a whole website. It's really pretty easy, and

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Speaker 1: you can do it at scale. Again, in something like

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Speaker 1: three or four months, Ckily, two hundred thousand fake websites

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Speaker 1: were set up around Prime Day, so you can expect

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Speaker 1: a similar sort of approach to Black Friday and Cyber Monday.

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Speaker 1: And here's one headline from malware Byte Labs, a security company.

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Speaker 1: Black Friday scammers offer fake gifts from big name brands

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Speaker 1: into bank accounts, and you know, without getting too deep

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01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 1: into the article, you know they talk about brands being

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Speaker 1: impersonated or spoofed. They mentioned Walmart home depolos. And when

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Speaker 1: you when you couple the spoofing with you know, people

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Speaker 1: looking to get good deals. Let's see, Uh, you know

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Speaker 1: when inflation is high, Uh, it's you know, it's easy

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Speaker 1: to send out a billion emails. It's easy to follow

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Speaker 1: that up with a billion text messages. Right. It costs

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Speaker 1: virtually nothing for the bad guys to send out these

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Speaker 1: very realistic looking emails and texts. You know, they're using

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Speaker 1: AI to get rid of all the old school tells.

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01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: Where the grammar is wrong, it doesn't lead right. You know,

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Speaker 1: they can copy contents from the legitimate website of a retailer.

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Speaker 1: So my point is this, the spoofing coupled with the

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Speaker 1: ability to reach large vinds people, whether it's email, text,

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Speaker 1: social media, some combination of all of the above makes

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Speaker 1: it really easy for him. And once you understand that, right,

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Speaker 1: then hopefully you'll say, Okay, I need to be a

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Speaker 1: lot more skeptical on anything any kind of deal that

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Speaker 1: I get right, regardless of how it came to me.

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Speaker 1: And I need to be cautious before I find a

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Speaker 1: deal that seems to be true and act on it,

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Speaker 1: because you know, when you get right down to it,

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Speaker 1: in some cases, you're going to hit a fake online store.

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Speaker 1: It looks exactly like the real thing. Maybe the URL

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Speaker 1: has just ever so slightly changed, there's one character or

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Speaker 1: something that's different, and you know they're going to make

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Speaker 1: it easy for you to either a get nothing. They

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Speaker 1: just steal your money, b send you some sort of

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Speaker 1: cheap knockoff product that's no good, or see possibly some

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Speaker 1: combination of all of the above, including some kind of

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Speaker 1: malware so they can steal all their usernames and passwords.

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Speaker 1: Malware you know, think keystrokelogger sitting in the background capturing

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Speaker 1: everything that you're doing. So it really is important to

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Speaker 1: move slowly, be cautious, be skeptical. You know, if it

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Speaker 1: seems too good to be true, it probably is. And

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you get something right, whether it's again, text, email, whatever,

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Speaker 1: and you think it might be legit, you want to

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Speaker 1: look into it. Don't click the links, don't call the numbers,

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Speaker 1: you know you might be calling the number that's spoofed

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Speaker 1: to somewhere, to some call center somewhere where you're going

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Speaker 1: to get professional con artists on the phone. We will

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Speaker 1: tell you whatever sort of lies they need to tell

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Speaker 1: you to get your money. That's the other thing people

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Speaker 1: don't understand. When you actually get on the phone with

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Speaker 1: these people, you know they're essentially professional con artists, and

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Speaker 1: in many cases, thanks to all the data it's been

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Speaker 1: leaked about you that we talk about all the time,

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Speaker 1: they mail enough about you it seems very credible and

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Speaker 1: very realistic. So you know, go out of band, don't

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Speaker 1: click the links, don't call the numbers, go to If

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Speaker 1: you get an email for a deal that seems to

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Speaker 1: be too good to be trueful, then you go to

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Speaker 1: the Walmart website and see if you could find that

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Speaker 1: deal there. You go, go to the Amazon website, go

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Speaker 1: to the Target website. Whatever you know, go on, don't

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Speaker 1: take debate, go on your own to the legitimate place,

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Speaker 1: and you know, move carefully.

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Speaker 2: Perfect illustration of my son, for example, doing exactly what

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Speaker 2: you recommend. Yesterday, I heard him on the phone. He

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Speaker 2: works for what I'll loosely describe as a private equity

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Speaker 2: for me. He does all their tech work and consolidation

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Speaker 2: is systems and ordering and things. Anyway, working with I

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Speaker 2: believe it was some foreign company and there was some

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Speaker 2: email which had a PDF attached to it, and he thought,

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Speaker 2: this seems out of the ordinary, this, this is not

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Speaker 2: an appropriate response to what we were talking about in

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Speaker 2: our relations, and so he immediately called the principles at

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Speaker 2: the company and said, don't open that. I want to

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Speaker 2: talk to the person who purportedly send it first to

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Speaker 2: find out if it's real, because I really don't think

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Speaker 2: it is. So there you go, raised eye, skepticism and concerned.

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Speaker 2: Immediately call the appropriate people and tell them not to

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Speaker 2: open it. So heed. The advice Dave had is always

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Speaker 2: handed and out great advice. Speaking of advice, cool tech

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Speaker 2: gadgets and gifts this year, we'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if any Internet of Things devices are in

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Speaker 2: his list. More with Dave Hatter after Galaxy Concrete Code

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Speaker 2: is again I mentioned for Galaxy, the project's done. My

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Speaker 2: daughter in Eric's backpatio looks absolutely fantastic. Compared to what

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Speaker 2: it looked like before, it looked terrible. There's no question

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Speaker 2: about that, which is why mom and Dad get a

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Speaker 2: little housewarming gift with the Galaxy Concrete Coatings covering. It's gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: It transformed that ugly cracked, previously painted yet flaked off

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Speaker 2: back patio, which is a prominent area of their home,

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Speaker 2: into something that is really beautiful. It pops. It's gorgeous,

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Speaker 2: and that could be any concrete surface that you have.

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Speaker 2: See applications for homes, for example, garages, the patio I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: pool decks, walkways, basement floors. How about commercial applications or

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Speaker 2: industrial applications the factory flooring for example. Everything that's got

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Speaker 2: plain old concrete, even deteriorated, is going to look magic

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Speaker 2: and it comes with a lifetime guarant You never have

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Speaker 3: Fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 2: Aircdtalk Station Tech Tuesday with Dave Otter Interest It dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Find Dave and the crew for your business computer needs.

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Speaker 2: All right, cool tech gadgets as we fast approach Black Friday,

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Speaker 2: the holiday gift giving season, Dave, what are we talking

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Speaker 2: about here?

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Speaker 1: Let's start out with some tech adds. Son, it's so cool.

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Speaker 1: So here's the headlines with you, Brian at letcgroups urge

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Speaker 1: parents to avoid AI toys this holiday season.

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Speaker 2: I saw that. I thought about you, even mentioned on

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Speaker 2: the program earlier this week or yesterday in fact, Dave, Yes, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I won't read the whole article, but you know it

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01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,480
Speaker 1: warns about that. And then along the same line, specific

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Speaker 1: example ar powered Teddy Bear talking about sexual fetishes and

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01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: instructing kids how to find knives.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know before you buy your kids or

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Speaker 1: grandkids any sort of Internet connected devices. You know, we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about this off and on for years, going

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Speaker 1: back maybe ten years. There was like a Mattel Barbie

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Speaker 1: that caused the big start to record your kids conversations

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Speaker 1: and do all kinds of things. You know, it's not

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Speaker 1: just the potential danger of their kids talking to something

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Speaker 1: like this that tells them how to go find knives.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to find that there's a crazy quote

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Speaker 1: in here. Here you go. This is from the toy

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Speaker 1: Knives are usually kept in safe places to make sure

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Speaker 1: everyone stay safe. You might find them in a kitchen

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Speaker 1: drawer or a knife block on the countertop. It's always

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Speaker 1: important to ask an adult when looking for knives so

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Speaker 1: they can show you where they're stored. That apparently was

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Speaker 1: an actual answer. I'm reading a quote from the article

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Speaker 1: about it. This ai Teddy Bear saying, so again, I

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Speaker 1: would encourage parents and grandparents to stay away from that

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Speaker 1: sort of stuff for their kids. To mention with people

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Speaker 1: working remotely, you know, you're plugging this stuff into your

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Speaker 1: home network. It's creating all kinds of security holds. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's always my concern with these Internet of Things devices, Brian,

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Speaker 1: It's that you don't necessarily understand how to configure them

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Speaker 1: correctly or understand the risk. But now on the tool

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Speaker 1: side of things, you know, like more people need more

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Speaker 1: power than ever. There's all kinds of power banks out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, essentially batteries that you can charge up and

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Speaker 1: take with you. And this is important not only because

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Speaker 1: you need the power when you're out, but you know

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Speaker 1: people will I mean I've seen it. I know people

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Speaker 1: that will do this, they'll just basically plug into anything

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01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: making fine to charge up their device and creating like

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01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: a rental car or whatever where it sucks all your

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Speaker 1: data into the intertainment centers. So if you have one

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Speaker 1: of these power banks or Anchor is a big company

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Speaker 1: that makes these sort of things, they're relatively inexpensive. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can get one of these power banks and charge

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Speaker 1: it up, take it with you and make sure that

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01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: you always have power, whether it's through a laptop, phone, tablet,

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Speaker 1: or whatever, without the need to be scrambled around trying

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Speaker 1: to find a place where you can plug into some

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01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: random charging for it where you know, we've talked about

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Speaker 1: juice jacking before. I've had people try to argue with

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Speaker 1: me if that's not real. But I can tell you

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Speaker 1: they make special charging cables and so forth, but have

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Speaker 1: tip to them that can interact with your device, so

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Speaker 1: it's always good to be cautious. Something like that makes

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Speaker 1: a good gift, especially for students or people who are

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Speaker 1: needing to be on a computer or device on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis. Another thing that I think is a pretty

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Speaker 1: cool gift is an RFID blocking wallet. Well, yes, right,

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Speaker 1: because you know we're increasingly in this space that you've

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Speaker 1: got tap to pay NFC communications, And there's been a

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Speaker 1: bunch of stories recently. You know, we've talked about skimmers

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Speaker 1: in the past where they put them in like a

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Speaker 1: point of sales system or something. But you know, now,

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Speaker 1: if someone can get close enough to you, they can

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Speaker 1: potentially read your credit card.

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Speaker 2: That's scary. Show standing in line, the guy behind you

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01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 2: with a reader can just you know, get up close

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Speaker 2: to your wallet in your back bocket.

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Speaker 1: Your Yeah, someone bumps into right. Oops, they bumped into you.

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Speaker 1: And like the old school where they try to literally

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Speaker 1: pick your pocket, here they're just doing it digitally. So uh,

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Speaker 1: like this, this is a pretty interesting one. The Extor

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Speaker 1: e K S T E R r f I D

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Speaker 1: blocking leather wallet. Uh, it's got the r f I

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Speaker 1: D coding to block the cars inside it. Uh. It

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: can have an optional Bluetooth tracker because and then who

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Speaker 1: hasn't lost the wallet at some point and wanted to

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Speaker 1: find it. And it's kind of cool because it's powered

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Speaker 1: by the sun, so it's it's uh, you don't need

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Speaker 1: to barry in this thing for the tracking capability to work,

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Speaker 1: so it's uh, it's pretty cool. There's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: these things out there. They're not cheap. This particular one

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: is one hundred bucks, but one hundred bucks will be

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01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: a small price to pay to keep you from hand

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01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: all your money stolen it from your bank accounts or

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: your credit cards to charge to the max because you know,

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Speaker 1: someone bumped into you. You know, all Apple watches and

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Speaker 1: that sort of thing. I'm not a big fan of those.

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01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, I got my phone on me all the time.

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Speaker 1: Do I really need yet another device that tracked me?

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Speaker 1: Probably not. Just looking through the list of some other

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Speaker 1: interesting things here, you know, for me, Brian, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to avoid all of the Internet of Things devices. I

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Speaker 1: don't have reels, I don't have nests in the stats.

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Speaker 1: I don't want any more smart devices than I already

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Speaker 1: have because the vast majority of them are basically privacy

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Speaker 1: and security dumpster fires. You know, I don't have a rumba.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to buy any of that stuff anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Here's one Rebel smart Air Friar compact. Why do smart Air?

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Speaker 1: Why do I need that? You know?

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Speaker 2: Come on, okay, you know was at a time, Robert,

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Speaker 2: I think that what you know.

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Speaker 1: I would have thought one last thing, something that is

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Speaker 1: worthwhile for a lot of people is like a Wi

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Speaker 1: Fi extender. You know a lot of times people will

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Speaker 1: have hot dead spots in their house or whatever. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can buy a Wi Fi extender and in many

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01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: cases fill those dead spots and get much better coverage

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Speaker 1: in your building if you have something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to have a problem with that. I

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Speaker 2: got one of those mesh systems, so I have like

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Speaker 2: repeaters in the house, and so I never have a

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Speaker 2: dead spot.

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Speaker 1: Anymore, which is good. Which is good.

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Speaker 2: Dave Hatter, we're out of time six fifty seven. Intrust

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Speaker 2: it dot com. Rely on Dave and the crew at

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Speaker 2: Interest I t for your business needs. Dave, I wish

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Speaker 2: we had more time. I enjoy these conversations. We'll get

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Speaker 2: back to regular order next Friday. And you know, from

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Speaker 2: my listening audience and me, my family, to your family

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Speaker 2: and everybody to Interest I TA, I hope you truly

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Speaker 2: have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday.

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Speaker 1: Well, Brian, same to you and Jael and all your listeners.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I appreciate you, my friend. We'll

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Speaker 2: do it again next Friday, six fifty seven. Come up

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Speaker 2: with six fifty eight. Be right back. It's seven six here.

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Speaker 2: I fIF you've got Kerosene Detalk station. Very happy Tuesday

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Speaker 2: to segue into Thanksgiving, the last day of the week,

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Speaker 2: and happy to have as always, any day of the

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Speaker 2: week's great day to have Congressman Warren Davidson, proudly representing

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Speaker 2: the eighth District Heneral, Ohio, back on the program. Congressman Davidson,

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Speaker 2: welcome back in and advanced early Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to

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Speaker 2: you and your family.

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Speaker 6: Happy Thanksgiving to you as well, Brian. And what an

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Speaker 6: eventful few days. I mean, I just spoke with you

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Speaker 6: last Thursday, but there's.

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Speaker 2: Been a lot going on. Uh yeah, it's really a

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Speaker 2: question of where do we begin.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You enlisted in the Army third Infantry. You then went

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Speaker 2: to West Point, You then went to Ranger School. You

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Speaker 2: were in the seventy fifth Ranger Regiment. You hundred and

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Speaker 2: first Airborne Division. You know about the Military Code of Justice,

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01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 2: what's legal and what is illegal? Or do you here's

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Speaker 2: a question. We had this video that was issued by

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Speaker 2: the Democrats, and I hope you don't mind me using

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Speaker 2: this as the first topic to talk about, but I

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Speaker 2: figure giving your proud military experience, you might be able

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Speaker 2: to chime in on it. The Democrats, I think six

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Speaker 2: of them, sent a video out which included a statement quote,

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Speaker 2: right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming

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01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 2: from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws

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01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: are clear. You military personnel can refuse illegal orders. You

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01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: can refuse illegal orders. They said it twice. You must

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01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: refuse illegal orders three times. What is an illegal order,

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Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, in the context of let's say, bombing Venezuela

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Speaker 2: in boats, in ships, in international waters or elsewhere. That's

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Speaker 2: one of the things I believe they were commenting on.

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Speaker 2: Is a service member to know and do you or

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Speaker 2: I even know if it's unlawful or lawful to blow

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Speaker 2: up a boat off the shores of Venezuela right now?

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Speaker 2: Don't you need illegal opinion or some sort of ruling

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Speaker 2: from the Supreme Court because this is kind of outside

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Speaker 2: of the realm of the Constitution, which says you have

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Speaker 2: to have a declaration of war to wage war against

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Speaker 2: a foreign country. Congressman Davidson, Well, there's a lot there,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: Fundamentally.

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Speaker 6: Uh, Look, these guys were trying to sew discord and

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Speaker 6: u division within our military and frankly within our country

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Speaker 6: they thought it would be kind of this cool video

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Speaker 6: or it was actually more malicious than that, And it

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Speaker 6: was frankly designed as an early stage of what you

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Speaker 6: know is a known as a color revolution. This is

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Speaker 6: how you do regime change operations. And a lot of

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Speaker 6: these people know that, well, I mean some of them

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Speaker 6: former CIA backgrounds that you know, this is a doctrinal thing.

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Speaker 6: And if you if you define domestic enemies to the

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Speaker 6: Constitution and then you use a battle cry don't give

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Speaker 6: up the ship. Uh, well, there's a lot of implied

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Speaker 6: things there, and you know, I think they're getting the

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01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,839
Speaker 6: scrutiny they've deserved for this. Does it does it amount

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Speaker 6: to treason? I don't know. Does it amount to sedition?

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure, but it sure does sound like it's

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Speaker 6: more serious than the seditious conspiracy charges that people were

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Speaker 6: sentenced to long sentences in jail with under underwrite. And

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Speaker 6: so does it count a seditious conspiracy?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Maybe, But is it really dumb? Absolutely really dumb? And

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Speaker 6: it was meant to divide our country in our military

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Speaker 6: and that it certainly has.

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Speaker 8: So, Look, these.

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Speaker 6: Aren't good people. I mean, when you look at their backgrounds.

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Speaker 6: Yet Okay, they served their country. And that's what I

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Speaker 6: always teld people. Hey, being a veteran's awesome. You should

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Speaker 6: serve your country if you can. It's one of the

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Speaker 6: best decisions I made in my life was to join

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Speaker 6: the army. But let's be clear, being a veteran does

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Speaker 6: not inoculate you from being dumb, and we just saw

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Speaker 6: that with that video.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for whatever reason, Bob McDonald's I went to

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Speaker 2: West Point comment just went through my mind when you

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Speaker 2: made that last day in Congressman Davidson. Anyhow, so I

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Speaker 2: guess you know going back to does this constitute seditious behavior?

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Speaker 2: You don't know. I don't know that requires a legal determination. Again,

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Speaker 2: when pressed on all the television programs of the talking heads,

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Speaker 2: each of the individuals who were involved in this video

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Speaker 2: couldn't cite a single illustration of an unlawful order that

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Speaker 2: Trump allegedly has made. So I think they got backed

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Speaker 2: into the corner on that one. But your point is

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Speaker 2: well taken, Congressman Davidson.

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Speaker 6: Well, thanks, Look, I always tell people, Look, when you

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Speaker 6: first get to basic training, make sure you tell the

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Speaker 6: drill sergeant all the things you're not gonna do. It'll

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Speaker 6: really help you get clear on how it works.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. Congress and Davidson. The other thing I

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Speaker 2: wanted to bring up, and I wanna catch you off

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Speaker 2: guard because I want to hear what you are prime

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Speaker 2: to talk about this morning in terms of all the

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Speaker 2: events that are happening. I saw this bizarre comment, and

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Speaker 2: of course coming from James Carville, you'd expect it to

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Speaker 2: be bizarre. They he wants the Democrats to engage in

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Speaker 2: what he called pure economic rage. This is what they're

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Speaker 2: going to run on. He said, It's time for Democrats

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Speaker 2: who embrace the sweeping, aggressive, unvarnished, unapologetic and altogether unmistakable

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Speaker 2: platform of pure economic rage. This is our only way

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Speaker 2: out of the abyss. He's, of course, focusing on inflation.

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Speaker 2: I know Donald Trump campaigned on lowering inflation, and he

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Speaker 2: said he was going to try to lower it. That's

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Speaker 2: a very complicated thing to engage in, but I guess

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Speaker 2: economic rage. Is there anything the administration can do to

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Speaker 2: cope with inflation practically speaking? Because this clearly is going

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Speaker 2: to be a dominant part of the conversation as we

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Speaker 2: move into next year of the fall election.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, rage bait is their whole program. And

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Speaker 6: you know they're they're even raging at this.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 6: You know doctor a psychiatrist who says, look, people are

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01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 6: coming in TDS is real. These people can't cope. They

1508
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 6: have Trump derangement syndrome. They're wrecking their own lives, their

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Speaker 6: relationships with friends and family as they obsess about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 6: And that is the Democrat platform is, you know, get Trump,

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Speaker 6: and I think that's going to be their focus. And look,

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Speaker 6: if the economy gives you any any handle to pull on,

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Speaker 6: they'll use that. If there's anything else that they can

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Speaker 6: grab on to, they'll use that. But it is one

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Speaker 6: hundred percent Trump is their platform anti Trump. And so look,

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Speaker 6: is the economy strong. I mean, here's the challenge about

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01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 6: the top ten percent of earners are driving about fifty

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01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 6: percent of the consumption in our economy. You know, so

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01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 6: it is healthy on one end, and the end that

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01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 6: it's healthy on is people that already have assets. You

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Speaker 6: already own your home, you've got a retirement account, you've

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01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 6: got a job that the wages are maybe keeping up

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Speaker 6: with inflation or insulating you a little better. More disposable

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01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 6: income you know, things are you know, relatively good there,

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01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 6: but you know, you look at people that don't have assets,

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01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 6: that are trying to be first time home buyers, that

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Speaker 6: are in a situation where they're living paycheck to paycheck. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: the rate of increases drop. That's where inflation is lower,

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01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 6: but the price level is still very high and wages

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01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 6: haven't kept up with that. And frankly, the solution a

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Speaker 6: lot of my colleagues offer is, well, if you care,

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Speaker 6: then you give subsidies. More government is always the answer,

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Speaker 6: and we're suffering from a fall over to us a government.

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Speaker 6: I mean, what causes inflation. It's massively more spending going

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Speaker 6: into the economy, and the things that you subsidize get

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Speaker 6: inflated faster than the rest of the economy. So, yeah,

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Speaker 6: fair point. If you get the subsidy, it is lower

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Speaker 6: for you, but it raises the overall price level for

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Speaker 6: everyone else, and it turns into this endless spiral of well,

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Speaker 6: then we'll have to increase the subsidies. And that's exactly

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Speaker 6: what's going on with Obamacare.

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Speaker 2: Well, indeed, I'm glad you pivoted over to Obamacare. It's

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Speaker 2: what kept the government shut downs along the extension of

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Speaker 2: these subsidies for people who probably could afford a premium.

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Speaker 2: But oh, law and behold, maybe not with the massive

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Speaker 2: increase in Obamacare premiums because of the massive influx of

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Speaker 2: people who were pre existing condition they just join Obamacare

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Speaker 2: after they've been diagnosed with a pretty significant illness. That

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Speaker 2: is just driven the costs into just impossible to manage amounts.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem in the failure with Obamacare right there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean fundamentally it was designed to work

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Speaker 6: that way. I mean Republican said it was, and you know,

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01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 6: Democrats have been united behind well, Obamacare is their checkdown policy.

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01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 6: What they really want is Medicare for all. Medicare this

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01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 6: is delivery, the delivery vehicle for it. Because the government

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01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 6: just keeps eating a larger and larger portion of the

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Speaker 6: spend and healthcare. I mean, when the Great Society launched

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Speaker 6: back in the sixties under Lyndon Johnson and more government

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01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 6: for more things, healthcare was about six percent of the economy.

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Speaker 6: Now it's almost twenty twenty four percent of the economy

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Speaker 6: is healthcare. And of that huge percentages of government. The

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Speaker 6: single largest expense for the federal government is healthcare, and

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Speaker 6: the rate of growth is just eating the world on that,

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Speaker 6: And of the things you could do with the money,

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Speaker 6: the dumbest is send it to the health insurance companies, right,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you can send it to the doctors and hospitals.

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Speaker 6: They're the ones that are providing the care and they

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Speaker 6: ultimately need it. So you could straight pipe it to

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Speaker 6: the doctors and hospitals, or you can send it to

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Speaker 6: the consumer that's actually getting treated. But you send it

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Speaker 6: to this middleman, and the middleman's still giving you double

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01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 6: digit increases. They're still saying, well, this is out a network.

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Speaker 6: There's still denying claims, and there's still just terrible service overall.

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Speaker 6: So you go deal with the doctors and nurses and

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Speaker 6: you feel like, how these people really care. They're doing

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Speaker 6: great stuff.

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Speaker 8: You look at the things.

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Speaker 6: Obamacare is by design, in my opinion, a disaster. But

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Speaker 6: either way, let's say it's got the most noble intentions,

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01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 6: it still isn't working. And so people away say, well,

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Speaker 6: where's the Republican plan? They've been daried. I mean, we've

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Speaker 6: got dozens of proposals that are out there. I've got

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Speaker 6: several myself. I've always wanted a healthcare committee so that

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Speaker 6: every single hearing is on healthcare, and it's almost twenty

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01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 6: percent of the economy. There's no excuse for not having that.

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Speaker 6: Maybe we'll finally get it, but we'll at least get

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Speaker 6: the debate. I hope between now and Christmas, let us

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Speaker 6: debate further with Congressman Davidson. Congressman Davidson will do it.

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Speaker 6: Congressman's choice on the next topic. I know there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of things you want to talk about. Find it

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Speaker 6: amount of time this morning, but we'll hear what Congressman

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Speaker 2: Twenty here if you've got KERCD talk station. Happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Congressman Warren Davidson on the program. I know there's a

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Speaker 2: million things we could talk about, Congressman Davidson kind of

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Speaker 2: what's uh, you know, what's what's on your mind of

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Speaker 2: what you might want to bring to my listeners and

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Speaker 2: my attention.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, thanks, Brian. I think one of the biggest

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Speaker 6: things is what is Congress doing? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 6: you'd go to Congress and you're sitting here looking at

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Speaker 6: President Trump getting executive orders, all kinds of executive actions,

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Speaker 6: and people are like, well, why aren't we codifying President

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Speaker 6: Trump's executive orders? And you know, some of that frustration

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Speaker 6: was voiced by Marjorie Taylor Green with her resignation, and

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of my colleagues feel that sense

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Speaker 6: of frustration, and it's you know, where's the play call?

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Speaker 6: And I remember when I was first in Congress back

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Speaker 6: in you know, twenty seventeen, I replaced speaker Bainer came in,

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Speaker 6: Paul Ryan was speaker, and I had this little booklet

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Speaker 6: called a Better Way. They had. It was basically the

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Speaker 6: offensive playbook. Here's the things we're going to do. And

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Speaker 6: people say, well, why aren't you doing XYZ? And I go, well,

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Speaker 6: I don't know, but there's a place he here's the

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Speaker 6: bullet points, and you could say this is a plan

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01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 6: right now. There are a lot of things where it's like, well,

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Speaker 6: we didn't even have the playbook for some of this stuff,

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01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 6: and when we do, there's a coalition of folks that

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Speaker 6: sort of say, well, let's not do that. And some

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Speaker 6: of it's the administration some of the things that they

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Speaker 6: want to do, Like, for example, look, I think it's fine.

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Speaker 6: It's a preemptive strike to take out drug boats in

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01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,719
Speaker 6: the Caribbean. Seems like you say, hey, you should get authorization. Great,

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01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 6: let's just do the authorization. I'm for it. These guys

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Speaker 6: are bringing infentanyl that are killing people right here in Ohio.

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Speaker 6: To me, it's a preemptive strike. They plan it on

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Speaker 6: killing Americans. We're going to stop them from doing it.

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Speaker 6: And you know, do I feel that way about every

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Speaker 6: kind of drug that's going on. No, but these cartels

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01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 6: are to me enemies of our country. They've been designated

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01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 6: that way, and I think they're legitimate targets. But let's

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Speaker 6: have the debate on the floor. Administration concerned that if

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Speaker 6: we do that, well, then it might imply they don't

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01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 6: have the authority to do whatever they want and that

1658
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 6: would disrupt what they're actually doing. So you have that

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01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 6: on issue after issue. At the border, we've got a

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01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 6: secure border. Where are the laws that change this and

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01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 6: codify it. A lot of times they don't want to

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Speaker 6: bring those up because they're afraid they'll fail, or in

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Speaker 6: some cases we've passed bills in the House and they're

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Speaker 6: waiting on sixty votes in the Senate. We just saw

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Speaker 6: how important sixty votes is to get something through the

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Speaker 6: Senate with the shutdown. But if you break the filibuster,

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Speaker 6: now you can't use that excuse anymore. You've got to vote.

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Speaker 6: And honestly, some of the Senators don't want to vote.

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Speaker 2: Hiding behind the filibusters so they don't have to go

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Speaker 2: on record.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, that definitely happens. And of course anyone

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Speaker 6: senator can kind of put their thumb on a bill

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Speaker 6: and hold it up and cause delays and everything. They've

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01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 6: got their own process. But there are a host of

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Speaker 6: reasons why everybody's frustrated right now. And I think the

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Speaker 6: other one may be the most common question gotten since

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Speaker 6: I've been elected, as you know, when is someone going

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Speaker 6: to jail? And I think that's why the Epstein thing

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01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 6: resonates so much. People promised accountability for that, and in frankly,

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Speaker 6: a lot of why Trump's you know, you know, big

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Speaker 6: mad at Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green as they

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Speaker 6: signed this discharge petition. Mike, I'm willing to work with

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01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 6: the Committee of Jurisdiction here on the Oversight Committee they've

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Speaker 6: been releasing documents. I think Pam Bondy's released some documents.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't help to say that it's a hoax and

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01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 6: nothing when on the one hand, everybody was going to

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Speaker 6: go to jail that was doing it, and it was

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Speaker 6: a huge scandal. The binders were handed out to journalists

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Speaker 6: and then it just in a matter of weeks disappears, like,

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Speaker 6: where's the explanation for that? That hearing should have happened.

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Speaker 6: It was supposed to during the shutdown. I think it's

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01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 6: back on tap for January. But people need an answer

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Speaker 6: for that. And there's no prosecutor in the in the

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Speaker 6: legislative branch, right we keep unearthing all this rage bait

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01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 6: for people, and people say, well, what's Congress.

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Speaker 2: Going to do?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know about it because we had the hearings.

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01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 6: We've made this stuff public. But the prosecutor is the

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01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 6: attorney general. So I would love a hearing, and I've

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01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 6: told Jim Jordan, the Chairman of Judiciary, this would be

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01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 6: the hearing for me. Don't just bring Pam Bondy in.

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01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 6: Bringing Merrick Garland, who was attorney general for Joe Biden.

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01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 6: No one had any questions for him, No one had

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Speaker 6: any questions for Joe Biden, why didn't Merrick Garland bring

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01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 6: the case? Go back to the previous administration, Bill Barr

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01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 6: and Jeff's sessions were Donald Trump's attorney general's his first term,

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01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 6: and then go back before that and look at Eric Holder.

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01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 6: I would bring every one of those attorneys general. So

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01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 6: this is a scandal that's been going on in the

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01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 6: news for you know, ten fifteen years at this point,

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01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 6: why was there never a case? Brun and have every

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01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 6: single one of those attorneys general give an answer. I

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01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 6: think that would be a good hearing. But here's the thing,

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01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, no matter what comes

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01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 6: out of that, people are still going to be going

1716
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 6: when somebody going to jail, and that's the job of

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01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 6: the Attorney general and the US attorneys around the country.

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01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 6: So they need to be bringing cases, evidence presented at trial,

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01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 6: convictions in jail time. Because it's clear that there's a

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01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 6: kind of double standard on this. And I will say

1721
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 6: Congress has exposed a lot of this, but that's why

1722
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 6: the frustrations there is. Congress did expose it, but what

1723
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 6: are we supposed to do about it? And at the

1724
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 6: end of the day, we could change the funding. We

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01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 6: could change some of the rules, we could remove judges,

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01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 6: we could do some things. I don't want to say

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01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 6: we're powerless here, but you know, it's in action in

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01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 6: certain elements of the executive branch, and inaction and components

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01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 6: of the legislative branch. And I think people are rightly frustrated.

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Speaker 2: Well and just lying in the sand division between the

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01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 2: two party system we have if one side proposes it

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01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: as glorious and brilliant and bipartisan as it would be,

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01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 2: as it's sort of an objective observation of any proposal.

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01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 2: Just because one side proposes that, the other side is

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01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 2: lockstep against this, which means we're not going to get

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Speaker 2: anywhere with anything.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and that's where you've got to have

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01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 6: a play. So, like, how are we going to make

1739
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,759
Speaker 6: sure we don't get shut down again? By January thirtieth,

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01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 6: we should have the we should have the votes on

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01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 6: all the appropriations bills. We've got three of the twelve

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01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 6: done and so we've got nine more. All of those

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01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,759
Speaker 6: have made it out of a committee in the House. Anyway,

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01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 6: the Appropriations Committee. We need slower time and have the debate,

1745
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 6: get the amendments pass, the bills and in the House

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01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 6: we can pass them on a simple party line vote.

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01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 6: Another question is are we going to get the votes

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01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 6: in the Senate, And for some of them probably not,

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01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 6: So what are we.

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01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: Going to do about it?

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01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 6: And then you could break the filibuster in the Senate.

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01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 6: We can't do anything about that in the House. But

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01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 6: that's where reconciliation comes in. So normally you're not supposed

1754
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 6: to put discretionary spending, your normal appropriations in with what's

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01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 6: known as mandatory spending. And that's not priority, that's a

1756
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 6: that's a term. So like if you give it x

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01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 6: dollars to run the Department of Defense or the Department

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01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 6: of Transportation, et cetera, that's a specific dollar amount. We

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01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 6: don't set a specific dollar amount for food stamps, for example,

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01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, we just handed out the last EBT card. No,

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01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 6: it's that if you qualify, then we spend the money.

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01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,799
Speaker 6: So that's mandatory. So the mandatory spending side is normally

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01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 6: dealt with with reconciliation, but both parties have added components

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01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 6: of discretionary spending. Democrats added when they did the Green

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01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 6: New Deal named the Inflation Reduction Act. They put you know,

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01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 6: EPA funding and things like that in there. And when

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01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 6: we did the Big Beautiful bill, we put defense funding

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01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,879
Speaker 6: and border security funding in there, so those are normally

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01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 6: discretionary items. We could just round out whatever we can't

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01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 6: pass across the floor of the House and Senate deem

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01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,480
Speaker 6: it mandatory and basically give a big check to the administration.

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01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 6: Say look, just run the government and that would be

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01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 6: a true power play because it would be party line,

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Speaker 6: and I think we should be ready to run that

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01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 6: play by January thirtieth. Otherwise, you know, Democrats feel like

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01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 6: they don't have to negotiate again.

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Speaker 8: It's like, well, they.

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01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 6: Kept saying, well, where's your where's your negotiation? It's like, well,

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01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 6: the CR was the negotiation. We can't settle for a

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01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 6: CR on January thirtieth. We need off events and I'd

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01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,719
Speaker 6: love to do some of it collaboratively with Democrat votes,

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01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 6: but I would be you know, I'm encouraging my leadership

1783
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 6: team to say, look, we run the reconciliation play, and

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01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 6: even if we don't end up running it, we've got

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01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 6: it ready. And if they don't want to negotiate, fine,

1786
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,919
Speaker 6: we'll just run a pure party line.

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Speaker 2: PLAYU wash rinse, repeat, Congressman Warren Davidson. God bless you,

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Speaker 2: sir for spending time my listeners and me. I certainly

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. I know my listeners enjoy hearing from you.

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Speaker 2: Obviously a man of logic, common sense, and reason, and

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Speaker 2: we wish there were more people like you intelected capacity.

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Speaker 2: I'll look forward to having you back on the program

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Speaker 2: real soon, Congressman Davidson. And again, very happy Thanksgiving for

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Speaker 2: my listeners and my family to yours.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Brian, It's always an honor. God

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Speaker 6: bless you all your listeners, and happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

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Speaker 2: Brigham mccow, it's great to have you in studio. Oh

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Speaker 2: you got that one. We got like twelve microphones in here.

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Speaker 2: He's just trying to figure out which one. I guess

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Speaker 2: I should have cleared that up with him before we started.

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Speaker 2: It looks like NASA in here, Brian, it does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like the old studios much better, Brigham. Uh forecast

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Speaker 2: for global energy demand. What I keep seeing is that

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01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 2: the world is short on energy, and that a windmill

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01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 2: and a solar panel ain't gonna cut it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's just boiling it down to its basic turns Brigham.

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01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 2: Not that I'm gonna get an argument from you, but

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Speaker 2: you know, I've been advocating for small modular reactors forever,

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01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 2: and it seems now that artificial intelligence companies and the

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01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 2: billionaires that run them need that much kind of energy generator.

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Speaker 2: Looks like we're finally going to get something that will

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Speaker 2: deliver on you know, consistent, affordable, reliable, and safe energy.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, you know, And that's something I talk about right

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01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 9: out of the gate everywhere I go, I go, you realize,

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Speaker 9: the world has never used less energy ever, ever, ever,

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Speaker 9: And we've never had an energy transition, and we've had

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01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 9: several of them over the years, from whale oil oil, yeah,

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01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 9: you know, and so forth to nuclear, but we've never

1853
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 9: transitioned to a fuel source that provides less energy, i e.

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01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 9: Less dense. We've always transitioned into a new fuel that

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01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 9: gives us more power, not less.

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Speaker 2: Until now global warming showed up, until global warming whatever.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but you know, the mot of mine is the agency,

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01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 9: international agency that the US set up in the seventies

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01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 9: to scope out energy needs has come out with a

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01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 9: revised forecast and it shows zero signs of peak oil,

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01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 9: meaning when we start using less oil than we used,

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01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 9: or peak hydrocarbons. For this very reason, it's gone. That

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01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:03,600
Speaker 9: was on the forecast.

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Speaker 2: I remember back in the seventies at it being at

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Speaker 2: a science museum and they showed that when the oil

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Speaker 2: was going to run out, countdown calendar.

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Speaker 9: Yes. And you know, just like with the stock market,

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01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 9: a lot of the economists, a lot of stuff we

1869
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 9: look at are rear facing information. And sometimes it's not

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01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 9: one hundred percent accurate. But as of right now, Brian,

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01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 9: we have no signs of using less energy in our

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01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 9: world because four billion people who live in energy poverty

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01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 9: want what you and I have when we get up

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01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 9: in the morning and flick on the light switch.

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Speaker 2: Amen to that. Society does not evolved without energy. I'll

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01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 2: bring them before we take a break here. I think

1877
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Speaker 2: I've observed. I've said it on the program so many times.

1878
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Speaker 2: This isn't this global climate change stuff is not about

1879
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:55,520
Speaker 2: climate change. I think it's about restricting our consumption. Abundant

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01:40:55,680 --> 01:41:00,720
Speaker 2: energy equals productivity and consumption, and that really is to

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Speaker 2: me the target. They don't want us to have houses,

1882
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 2: they don't want us to consume we're all going to

1883
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 2: kill the planet. So how do we get at that, Well,

1884
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 2: we restrict the people's ability to well move about and

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Speaker 2: engage in productivity because of energy.

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Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of truth to that, and

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Speaker 9: it's a mindset. It's a different mindset, right. You know,

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01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 9: you you shouldn't be wealthy, you should be poor, You

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01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 9: should live in the collective. We all need to do

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Speaker 9: our part for the common good. And you know that's

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Speaker 9: one viewpoint. But that's not how America was built. That's

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01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 9: not how we got to where we were. We're a

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01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 9: nation of doers, builders and making it happen.

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Speaker 2: And that makes us evil in the hearts and minds

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Speaker 2: of the leftist, communist, Marxist et cetera of the world.

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Speaker 2: Seven thirty six more with Bring Account from the Hudson Institute.

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Speaker 2: Patient seven nine. Charged Conversations. That's the name of the

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Speaker 2: podcast for my guests here in studio. Brigham Account. We've

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Speaker 2: of the Hudson Institute. You can find him on line at

1904
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Speaker 2: Hudson dot org. Really great website there, Brigham Acount cop

1905
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 2: thirty We had like five gajillion people from all every

1906
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 2: nation of the planet flying into the rainforests of Brazil

1907
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,600
Speaker 2: and cutting down six hundred thousand acres of rainforest so

1908
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 2: they can have their Global Climate change convention with their

1909
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 2: private jets. Blah. So what do they accomplished?

1910
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Speaker 8: You know what?

1911
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 2: Fly read pretty much nothing. I understand CO two was

1912
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 2: almost of their boat and topic.

1913
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, they really didn't getnywhere. With the United States absent,

1914
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 9: we didn't send any official delegations, although a few folks

1915
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:40,799
Speaker 9: went and much to my head scratching, like the chairman

1916
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 9: of the Chamber of Commerce went, oh, maybe maybe the hell.

1917
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Speaker 2: Of a party brig inview, you know, I mean it's

1918
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Speaker 2: not been It's like getting invited to one of those

1919
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 2: elite events. I mean you just go for the sake

1920
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,679
Speaker 2: of eating great food and hobnobbing with the bleeding hearts

1921
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Speaker 2: or something.

1922
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Speaker 1: You know it.

1923
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 9: I read a statistic that said it is the large

1924
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 9: single emitter of CO two for any event in the

1925
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 9: world that goes on democracy, over four thousand journalists there.

1926
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Speaker 9: And you know, I read an article from somebody I

1927
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 9: know at a think tank in Poland this morning that said, oh,

1928
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 9: with the US gone, China stepped up and their display

1929
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 9: and their booth shows that they're taking climate leadership. And

1930
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 9: I'm thinking, is that what it takes just a fancy booth.

1931
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Speaker 2: That's marketing missions. They own the world when it comes

1932
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 2: to windmills and solar panels, and they want to sell

1933
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 2: that stuff to every ignorant company or country out there

1934
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 2: that's willing to cut its throat in the name of

1935
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Speaker 2: eliminating CO two.

1936
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Speaker 9: Yes, you know, and we were talking offline. I had

1937
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 9: a conversation with a deputy minister, like a deputy cabinet

1938
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 9: secretary from a very big nation last week who is

1939
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 9: reemphasizing their commitment to the accelerated deployment of renewables. And

1940
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 9: I said, you know, China doesn't give a you know

1941
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 9: what about any of this, none of it. And I

1942
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 9: got a blank stareback. But I said, I'd give them

1943
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:06,679
Speaker 9: an a plus for energy security because they are doing

1944
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 9: exactly that what the definition of energy security is, which

1945
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 9: makes you prosperous, you know, having unlimited energy at an

1946
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 9: affordable price, that is reliable and when and where you

1947
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 9: need it.

1948
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Speaker 2: It's all of the above strategy. Yeah, they do it all.

1949
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 2: Build a couple of coal plants every few weeks, and

1950
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 2: they build nukes, and they have they use hydro power,

1951
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 2: I will acknowledge. I'm sure they even use some of

1952
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 2: their own solar panels and windmills, but they do. They

1953
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 2: don't shy away from anything that produces carbon dioxide.

1954
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 9: No, they don't at all. In fact, you know, the

1955
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 9: emissions of China and India have increased two and a

1956
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:49,759
Speaker 9: half times what Western Europe and the US have reduced. Germany,

1957
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 9: well it's not you can't. You can't build anything in Germany.

1958
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 9: And you know, on the car front, the Germans also

1959
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 9: don't understand that byd a German Man or a Chinese

1960
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 9: manufacturer which makes evs pretty cheaply.

1961
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 2: Of course they do.

1962
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:09,560
Speaker 9: They have a factory that is almost larger than San Francisco.

1963
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 9: But don't worry out EVW, BMW Mercedes they got this now.

1964
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 2: They don't bigger than the city of San Francisco.

1965
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, wow, the main part, you know, the main

1966
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:24,679
Speaker 9: part right there. Yeah, So no, these guys are scaling

1967
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 9: up in China. They see this as a lever for

1968
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 9: economic productivity and frankly canceling the rest of the world's

1969
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 9: industrial capacity, which is what they do. They go into

1970
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 9: a new market, they dump steel, they drive locals out

1971
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 9: of business, then they raise the rates. This is not

1972
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 9: new for anybody. Why don't we get ahead of that.

1973
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:48,720
Speaker 9: I mean, this religious component that is climate change is

1974
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 9: so fully brainwashed people that like the blank stare you

1975
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 9: got from the leader from that very large country talking

1976
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,679
Speaker 9: about pursuing the CO two emissions and limiting it to zero.

1977
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 9: And when you point something like that out, you just

1978
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:04,520
Speaker 9: get looked at. They don't want to engage in that discussion.

1979
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 9: I mean, this whole COP thirty, you got people from

1980
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 9: all over the planet. Nobody's raising their hands saying, wait

1981
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 9: a second, what about China and India. Australia reduced its

1982
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 9: carbon emissions down to virtually nothing, but what they negated

1983
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 9: from the atmosphere China emits. I think I read ten days, yes,

1984
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 9: ten days for the entire annual effort of an entire continent. Australia. Yeah, yeah, Well,

1985
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 9: I think it's a mixed bag. I think there are

1986
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 9: some people who know the truth, but they don't want

1987
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 9: to speak up for getting labeled a denier. There are

1988
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 9: other people that, you know, really do believe this. And look,

1989
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 9: I get it. We all want to be good stewards

1990
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 9: the environment. But carbon dioxide's plant food, brig them. Yeah, yeah,

1991
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 9: it's a fraction of the environment. It's not mercury, it's

1992
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 9: not lead, it's not something that is carcinogenic. It exists

1993
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 9: naturally in the environment. It's plant food. If we want

1994
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 9: to be serious out fighting pollution, there are other types

1995
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 9: of pollution that cause asthma respiratory disease. And you know,

1996
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 9: here's the other thing, though, is we have some of

1997
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 9: the cleanest actually the cleanest water on record, the cleanest

1998
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 9: air on record since the EPA was founded in the

1999
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 9: early seventies by the Nixon administration. People forget that point.

2000
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 9: The Republicans did that, just like the Department of the

2001
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 9: Interior is cleaned up. I mean, we're doing better than

2002
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:32,440
Speaker 9: we've done.

2003
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 2: Without question, I mean in my lifetime. And you know,

2004
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 2: say what you want about Circle and the cleanups and

2005
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 2: all that that resulted in a cleaner environment. And Brigham,

2006
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 2: how do you get to a cleaner environment? Does it

2007
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 2: not take wealth? Lots of wealth. You don't have clean

2008
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 2: until you get to the point where you're comfortable and

2009
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 2: you have a growing economy that can afford to deal

2010
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,480
Speaker 2: with the pollution that is a result of that growing economy.

2011
01:47:55,680 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 9: Absolutely, And if you only look at we import, you know,

2012
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 9: solar panels and windmills from China, but yet we don't

2013
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 9: consider the pollution that is made by producing those. We've

2014
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 9: off shored all of our climate concerns to somebody else.

2015
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 2: And the European Union buying Russian gas and oil. Okay,

2016
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 2: as long as we're not producing it, we can burn it.

2017
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 2: We just we have clean hands because we're not the

2018
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 2: source of it. That's just, it's crazy questioning this the

2019
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: dogma that goes along with this. Come on, I'll be

2020
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 2: the first person to question this morning. They'll come back

2021
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 2: with any plausible explanation for why they cling to the

2022
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,320
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Speaker 2: You said you have another comment about COP thirty before

2049
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 2: we move on. Obviously thirty meaning they've been at this

2050
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 2: for thirty years.

2051
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, And I guess that's the point the Conference

2052
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 9: of the Parties, as it's now not necessarily governments but

2053
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 9: delegations parties in a fairly loose term, COP.

2054
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 2: The religious loyal Yeah, we're we've.

2055
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 9: Been doing this three decades, thirty plus years, and we're

2056
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 9: no closer to resolution frankly, because you know, each one

2057
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 9: of these tries to pay over different paper over differences

2058
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 9: between countries, and in some cases you have countries wanting

2059
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 9: to fleece those who do have money. Oh they're on record,

2060
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 9: Yeah you got you gotta pay me, you gotta pay me.

2061
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:43,600
Speaker 2: They want to triple the amount for climate transition issues

2062
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 2: in their respective third world countries. That means building stuff

2063
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 2: and things that they can afford because they're miserable economies.

2064
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 2: They want us to show to the burden of it.

2065
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 2: Nothing has anything to do with global warming or climate

2066
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 2: change or sea level rises, which apparently aren't really happening.

2067
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 2: It's just they've used this vehicle as a mechanism to

2068
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 2: guilt us into paying for stuff. There absolutely well free

2069
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:04,919
Speaker 2: distribution mechanism.

2070
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 9: It is a wealth redistribution for sure, and you know

2071
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 9: it'll do nothing to reduce hydrocarbon demand. Yet you know

2072
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 9: everyone lines up every year for the big party, as

2073
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 9: you've pointed out, and with the developing country saying, hey,

2074
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 9: we'd like more emphasis this year on getting off coal. Sorry,

2075
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 9: and news flash, twenty twenty five, we will have used

2076
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 9: more coal this year than any other year in record,

2077
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 9: even though we're not using as much of it other

2078
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 9: people are.

2079
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, at least the folks in eastern Kentucky can

2080
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 2: have a livelihood by selling it to other countries who

2081
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 2: aren't stupid.

2082
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 9: Yeah. And by the way, we have really neat new

2083
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:52,799
Speaker 9: technology that removes most of the pollutants from coal. Ohio

2084
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:56,440
Speaker 9: State's developing something that emits zero emissions from coal.

2085
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 2: No kidding. Yeah, it comes at a large expense though

2086
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 2: for the coaltors. That's the downside risk it does. Indeed,

2087
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 2: so I'd rather have the small modular reactor if you

2088
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 2: deal with the regulatory reform and we get these streamline.

2089
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 2: These things are one size fits all, like putting legos together.

2090
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 2: Once you get a design that works, you can PLoP

2091
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:14,720
Speaker 2: it down and they're small footprint.

2092
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 9: Yeah they are. And you know, we've talked about this

2093
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 9: before that no two reactors across the United States are identical,

2094
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 9: which obviously makes no sense.

2095
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 1: Right.

2096
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 9: You come up with a copy that works, and then

2097
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:26,879
Speaker 9: you replicate it, and the SMRs can be plugged in together.

2098
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,719
Speaker 9: So if you need you know, twenty gigawatts, forty gigawats,

2099
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,720
Speaker 9: one hundred gigawatts, you just plug them all in. And

2100
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 9: so this takes care of the permitting everything else. And

2101
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 9: by the way, the US government just issued a loan

2102
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 9: guarantee of one billion dollars to restart three Mile Island.

2103
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:46,560
Speaker 2: Now does that make sense to you?

2104
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 9: You know, it's the fastest thing that's available because it's there,

2105
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 9: and the reactors themselves are going to have to be recreated.

2106
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 9: But no, I would rather build a brand new advanced

2107
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:03,560
Speaker 9: generation reactor which requires far lower enriched uranium. The byproducts

2108
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 9: that are recyclable, so we get rid of the storage

2109
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:09,840
Speaker 9: issue for contaminated stuff. But you know it's going to

2110
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 9: take five to eight years to get online, So it's rebanned.

2111
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,719
Speaker 2: Opening three miles going to take five to eight years.

2112
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:20,840
Speaker 9: Oh no, sorry, building something new, building something new, right.

2113
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 2: I thought Westinghouse already had these things ready to go,

2114
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 2: just like off the shelf.

2115
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 9: Well they do, but frankly, we need permitting reform.

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Speaker 2: That's see, that's the problem. It's not the availability of

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Speaker 2: the technology, of the ability to build it. It's the

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Speaker 2: permitting reform. It's the environmental lawsuits that gets slopped down

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Speaker 2: in front of it. It's just the multitude of self

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Speaker 2: created impediments and roadblocks to the efficient building these reactors.

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Speaker 9: It absolutely is. And you know, you have both sides

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Speaker 9: of the aisle in DC say we need permitting reform.

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Speaker 9: But the truth is the left doesn't want what the

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Speaker 9: right wants to build. The right doesn't want what the

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Speaker 9: left wants to build, and so we don't build anything,

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Speaker 9: which is just completely backwards right.

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Speaker 2: Right, mean, well, China keeps moving forward.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they don't have a permitting reform problem, either does

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Speaker 9: Russia or India.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't know, they just do it. Yeah, it's

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01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 2: maybe a reflection of the failed system of government we

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Speaker 2: have here, Brigham. I hate to cast dispersions on Congress

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01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 2: and the fact that we have separation of powers and

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01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 2: Congress should be sitting down for the benefit of all

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Speaker 2: American people and get a better or more efficient energy

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Speaker 2: production and distribution web here in the United States. But no, not,

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01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:33,839
Speaker 2: they'd rather fight amongst themselves.

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Speaker 9: Well, and if I may real quickly, I did a

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Speaker 9: Charge Conversations episode a couple of weeks ago during the

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01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 9: government shutdown that said Who's to blame? And it went

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Speaker 9: into the detail of what Congress's job is and why

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01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 9: they're not doing it and what needs to be done.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's another reason to find Brigham acgown Charged Conversations

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01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 2: where we get your podcasts and prop suggest tracker for

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01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 2: producing that one Brigham account. I wish we had hours

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01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 2: to talk about. Sadly we're out of time in this segment,

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01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 2: but appreciate your willingness to come in and talk about

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01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 2: these important issues little truth in the face of the

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Speaker 2: religion that we're up against.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks Brian, and Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Right back at you, man, I hope you really understand.

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01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 2: You got family in the house and I'm going to

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01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 2: be spending some time with you on Thanksgiving. That's great,

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01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 2: That's what the time of year is all about. Absolutely,

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01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 2: take care of my brother. We'll see you real soon,

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01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 2: and don't go away, folks. After the top of the

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Speaker 2: air News, it's time for the inside Scoopy Bright Bart

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Speaker 2: News tech editor Colin Maydine, and there's a great new

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Speaker 2: feature on X We're going to talk about that as

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Speaker 2: well as Meta not wanting to find out the truth

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Speaker 2: about the dangers of social media cutting off its own research.

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01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 2: That's coming up next. Hope you can stick around.

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Speaker 9: We only deal in what you need to hear these days.

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01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 7: You need to keep an open mind.

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Speaker 9: On fifty five krc the talk station.

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Speaker 2: Just Ibato five here a fifty onio KRCD talk station.

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Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday, Kevin Gordon filling in for me tomorrow, taking

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Speaker 2: the rest of the week off in a honter of Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: and as I always start this time of week and

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Speaker 2: this moment in time. On the Faressey Morning Show, Bookmarket,

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Speaker 2: Breitbart dot com, b R E I T B A

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Speaker 2: r T dot com, It's time for the inside scoop

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Speaker 2: oft Bright Bart News, the return and perfect timing. Welcome

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Speaker 2: back Tech editor Colin Maydin. It's always great talking with you.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Brian, how are you today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great, And you know, I when I saw

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Speaker 2: you're going to be on the program this morning, I

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Speaker 2: was so happy because I just was beaming. And in fact,

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Speaker 2: Breitbart's where I found out about it. Elon Musk has

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Speaker 2: now labeled to count locations on his platform X so

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01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 2: you know, in fact, no, you're not dealing with some

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01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 2: guy in Texas screaming about MAGA or dividing and stirring

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01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 2: the pot of descent in this country. It's actually somebody

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Speaker 2: in Bangladesh or elsewhere. I want this feature on every

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Speaker 2: social media platform. Colin Maydin explain this to my listeners.

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Speaker 10: Well, Brian, yeah, this is a doozy you know, and

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Speaker 10: I actually thought to you.

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Speaker 2: First as we wrote thanks man.

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Speaker 10: You're the kind of guy who can who can you know,

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01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 10: pull us apart for the audience. So you know, we've

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01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 10: always had a problem with foreign influence. Yes, of course,

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01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 10: the two sides of the country kind of disagree who's

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Speaker 10: influencing what right. So you know, people had been begging

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Speaker 10: Elon and his team of Twitter now known as X

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01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:29,240
Speaker 10: to have this feature saying what country are these are

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Speaker 10: these people frump that are posting?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 10: They finally added it. They had a live for a

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Speaker 10: couple hours and turned it off because there was problems,

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Speaker 10: but then it relaunched over the weekend and you know,

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Speaker 10: suddenly all these eyes were opened. Because we have a

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Speaker 10: lot of accounts, especially in the political area, where there

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Speaker 10: are anonymous accounts. You know, they don't have a real

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01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 10: person name on there that is a known person, you know,

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Speaker 10: like a Brian Thomas account as you but you know,

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Speaker 10: American patriot, who the heck is that?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 10: A lot of those accounts, to your point, are in

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Speaker 10: places ranging from Romania to you know, Australia in some cases,

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Speaker 10: but a lot of them are in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

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Speaker 10: So suddenly all these people go turn into super salutes

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Speaker 10: and they're looking at what these accounts are posting. Now.

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Speaker 10: The leftist response to this is haha, conservatism is fake,

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Speaker 10: Maga is fake because all these accounts are fake. But

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Speaker 10: that's not true when you look at it. The political

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Speaker 10: accounts based in these foreign countries are all posting divisions.

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Speaker 2: It's all about that o. The conservative movement this for years,

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Speaker 2: and I'm so I was so excited about this article.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you thought of me because I've been saying

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Speaker 2: this out loud on the program for years without you know,

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Speaker 2: support for what I was concluding. But social media, it's

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Speaker 2: so easy if you're a foreign actor and you want

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Speaker 2: to grew with America, and America is you know, embracing

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Speaker 2: under the umbell of freedom. That's one thing at least

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01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 2: you can unite under. Well, we need to disable that,

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Speaker 2: we need to interfere with that. Let us choose any

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Speaker 2: given subject matter and stir the pot of division. And

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Speaker 2: we can do that from remote control, from anywhere on

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Speaker 2: the globe. And this confirms what I've been saying. You're

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Speaker 2: listening to a bunch of foreign actors who want us

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Speaker 2: to fight amongst ourselves over literally anything.

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Speaker 10: Colin, Oh, absolutely true. Now there's you know, there's a

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Speaker 10: couple of important points here. Firstly, the concept of an

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Speaker 10: anonymous account is not by itself evil at all. We've

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Speaker 10: gone through more than a decade of social media cancel culture,

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Speaker 10: where if you're a conservative and you dare to share

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Speaker 10: your opinions, they're going to try to get you fired.

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Speaker 10: They're going to try to get you, you know, kicked out.

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Speaker 1: Of polite society.

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Speaker 10: So that you know, that's okay. But what this has

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Speaker 10: revealed is very sophisticated actions by people to portray typical Americans.

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Speaker 10: To your point, you know, you have an account that

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02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:07,800
Speaker 10: portrays itself as a as a you know, a gun

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Speaker 10: slinging Texan likes the barbecue for lunch, and you know

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02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 10: drives a jacked a pickup truck. It's a dude in

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Speaker 10: Pakistan that probably works for the Pakistani governments. So you know,

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02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 10: big problem. And you know Twitter already had problems with

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Speaker 10: foreigners because you know, the Twitter was one of the

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Speaker 10: one of the big changes under Elon was they launched

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Speaker 10: a program where you can make money as a verified account.

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Speaker 10: You know, if you're driving traffic, if you're doing big numbers,

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Speaker 10: you can make money like advertising and India, Pakistan accounts

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Speaker 10: base these places were completely gaming that system. So your

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Speaker 10: real influencer sitting in the USA were barely making any

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Speaker 10: money because the system was being completely you know, tricked

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Speaker 10: by folks overseas. And he's been trying to straighten that out.

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Speaker 10: Now it's taken a much, much deeper and frankly more

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02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:09,440
Speaker 10: sinister turn, because you know, exactly to your point, you

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Speaker 10: and others were saying, these aren't Americans, these are people

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Speaker 10: trying to screw with us. Now we know that's true.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, And you know, I love that he anticipated

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Speaker 2: the VPN workaround. And I'm a big fan of epns

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Speaker 2: even for example, and I use this as an illustration.

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Speaker 2: You got a teenager in a state which doesn't allow

2265
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Speaker 2: teens on pornography sites that state, All you need to

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Speaker 2: do is get on a VPN and pretend like you're

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Speaker 2: in some other state or, as the case may be,

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Speaker 2: some other country. That's where your IP address shows up.

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Speaker 2: That defeats the whole ID check thing because that other state,

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Speaker 2: like Illinois, doesn't have the ID verification, so that's a workaround.

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Speaker 2: Same thing goes here. You could be a foreign actor

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Speaker 2: saying that you're in the United States, but if you

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Speaker 2: use a VPN from Bangladesh, it might look like you're

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Speaker 2: in Chicago or Saint Louis or Cincinnati. That's what the

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Speaker 2: VPN will show. But Elon must anticipated that, so he's

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Speaker 2: got the little exclamation point feature that's going along with

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Speaker 2: that exactly.

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Speaker 10: So you know, for anyone that that's not familiar with

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02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 10: how this works, you can look in an account and

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02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:11,400
Speaker 10: click on the date that it says they joined the platform.

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02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 10: It's going to give you all the additional information, including

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Speaker 10: the country they're based in. And to your point, Brian,

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Speaker 10: you know, yes, anyone could VPN and say hi, I

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Speaker 10: am an American, you know, but with that exclamation point,

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Speaker 10: you know.

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Speaker 2: They're on a VPN.

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Speaker 10: You don't know where they're based, but you know if

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Speaker 10: they're saying American patriot or my favorite of all these

2289
02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 10: accounts is Republicans against Trump, you know, which is not

2290
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Speaker 10: Republicans against Trump because it's not American. Uh, you know,

2291
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 10: it's a great that you can see, Hey, I don't

2292
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:49,880
Speaker 10: know where they are, but they're not here and that's

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02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:51,840
Speaker 10: enough information for us.

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02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:55,120
Speaker 2: Well, it provides you an opportunity to exercise some logic

2295
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:58,360
Speaker 2: and reasons. I wonder why they're using a VPN, and

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02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:01,320
Speaker 2: the result is the obvious ques answer the questions because

2297
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:03,760
Speaker 2: there's someplace else. It's just you know, just put two

2298
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 2: and two together. It's simply it may not necessarily be true,

2299
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:09,839
Speaker 2: but more than likely in connection with these divisive posts

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02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 2: related to American politics and other topics, it more than

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02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 2: likely is a foreign actor. And I was surprised in

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Speaker 2: the reporting on this that the China didn't come up

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02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 2: more often, because I mean you had mentioned Bangladesh, Congo's

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02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 2: even mentioned in India, Pakistan, but no specific mention of China,

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Speaker 2: who I kind of figured would be the biggest foreign

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02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:33,920
Speaker 2: actor involved in this activity. It's it's a method of warfare.

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Speaker 10: It is, you know. And for our Democrat friends, I'm

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02:03:39,400 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 10: sure you have some Democrat listeners. Yes, Russia wasn't in

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02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:48,360
Speaker 10: there either, so you know, we could talk all day

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Speaker 10: about that, Brian. There's a lot going on. For one thing,

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02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 10: China may not be as concerned about what happens on

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02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 10: Twitter because they have much larger scale influence operations. For example,

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02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:09,520
Speaker 10: TikTok that is clearly a Chinese thiop right. In other cases,

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02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:15,160
Speaker 10: probably some of these people, if you're talking about the

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02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:19,800
Speaker 10: true you know, nation state security practice level, they might

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02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:24,520
Speaker 10: be hiding out in India. Because one of the very

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02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 10: interesting things that we're going to be following up and

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02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 10: researching on with this is typically when you're dealing with

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02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:36,920
Speaker 10: scammers and basically financial influencers, you know, people who are

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02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 10: not spies but rather doing stuff for money, which is

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Speaker 10: some of what's going on here. The English is bad,

2322
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:48,520
Speaker 10: you know, they don't know how We get scam emails

2323
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 10: all the time that are poorly written in English, right,

2324
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:55,680
Speaker 10: because it's not English as a first language. Speakers who

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Speaker 10: are writing those these are all you know, the Texans

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Speaker 10: sound like Texans, right. That is a level of sophistication

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Speaker 10: that is not there for normal scammers.

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Speaker 2: But it will be if it isn't here already calin

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Speaker 2: though in a moment's time, it will be with artificial intelligence, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean with a statement in proper English, you know,

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Speaker 2: with a Texas flair. Even you can get AI to

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Speaker 2: do stuff like that, it'll tailor a message for it,

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Speaker 2: it'll actually be grammatically correct or maybe even come out

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Speaker 2: in a very colloquial way that'll make it look convincing.

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Speaker 10: Very true.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 10: So when I look at things, when I look at

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Speaker 10: these fake accounts, when I see him coming out of

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Speaker 10: Europe like Romania, I'm thinking to myself, this is the

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Speaker 10: EU trying to mess with us. Right when I see

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Speaker 10: him coming out of India, I'm thinking, that's more people

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Speaker 10: trying to make bucks because there's nothing there's no better

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Speaker 10: way to make money on social media than divide people,

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Speaker 10: enrage people. This is kind of the how it's third

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Speaker 10: model of radio applied to applied to social media. But

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Speaker 10: clearly there's much more than that going on. And I

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Speaker 10: think we're going to see this unfold over time.

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Speaker 2: No question. And further to my point on China, maybe

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Speaker 2: it isn't so much that and I point well taken

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Speaker 2: on them being you know, in other countries. Obviously they're

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Speaker 2: expanding their global footprint China is so they could operate

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Speaker 2: these bot farms elsewhere, but that they are perpetuating the

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Speaker 2: we're all killing ourselves with the climate CO two eradication

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Speaker 2: messaging that that is in their financial best interest. In

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Speaker 2: other words, it's a glorified global marketing campaign to get

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Speaker 2: us to be stupid and buy windmills and solar panels

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Speaker 2: and cut our own throats in terms of energy generation column.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Brian, keep in mind, the Chinese mindset is they'll

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Speaker 10: hang us and we'll sell them the rope.

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Speaker 2: That's what they want. Yeah, they used to commit, They

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Speaker 2: use to assassinate their political operatives and then build a

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Speaker 2: family for the bullet. You may just remember those days

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Speaker 2: back in the you know, shoot them in the back

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Speaker 2: of the head and then charge the family for the bullet.

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Speaker 2: That's China, and they're doing that to us each and

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Speaker 2: every day. Colin maydein Tech editor with breit Bart B

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Speaker 2: R E I T B A r T Breitbart dot Com.

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Speaker 2: I was totally blown away and really disturbed by a

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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal article I read just from yesterday. Teens

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Speaker 2: are saying tearful goodbyes to their AI companions. Some really

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Speaker 2: unbelievable problems these young people are having getting involved with

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Speaker 2: artificial intelligence. And they just have this perception that these

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Speaker 2: fake characters that they create and interact with conversationally and

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Speaker 2: literally spend hours and hours online with them, they perceive

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Speaker 2: them to be almost real. So when you say sorry,

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Speaker 2: young people are not going to let you have access

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Speaker 2: to this anymore. They break down emotionally. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get They're not real people. I mean,

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Speaker 2: where is that message getting out? Colin? Sadly, it appears

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Speaker 2: that Meta also is painfully aware of this. But so

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Speaker 2: rather than look further into the details of the harm

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Speaker 2: social media does the people, they just shut down their

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Speaker 2: research on it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's uh, you know, that's a fun story, Brian.

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Speaker 10: I want to correct one thing he said. Oh, the

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Speaker 10: young people don't think the ais are almost real. There's

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Speaker 10: no almost don't believe they're real and generation right. What

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Speaker 10: you're seeing here, Brian, is a perfect illustration of the

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Speaker 10: economics concept of opportunity costs. Opportunity cost is if you're

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Speaker 10: doing one thing, you can't do another. So our young

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Speaker 10: people are falling in love with AI, you know, warning

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Speaker 10: it when they lose it.

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Speaker 1: What are they not doing.

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Speaker 10: They're not meeting that real humans, They're not forming relationships

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Speaker 10: that are going to make the next generation of Americans.

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Speaker 10: We're going to have a population crisis light China if

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Speaker 10: we don't have people fall in love and get married

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Speaker 10: and so forth, right, and so you know, the meta

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Speaker 10: story you just mentioned is very insidious because what's happening

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Speaker 10: there is as they're internal researchers. So I'm actually starting

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Speaker 10: to admire because they're very sharp and they're they're reaching

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Speaker 10: the right conclusions.

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Speaker 1: They just get turned off.

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Speaker 10: So you know, we have these internal researchers talking to

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Speaker 10: each other saying, gosh, this is a drug and we're

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Speaker 10: pushers and they're realizing the ugly truth. Kind of like

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Speaker 10: there's a meme of the Nazi saying, are we the

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Speaker 10: bad guys? That's that's what's happening in Silicon Valley. But

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Speaker 10: they just keep pushing forward and not slowing down.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's someone's got.

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Speaker 10: To slow them down.

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Speaker 2: Illustrative quote exactly on that point, Doctor Ninavassan, director at

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Speaker 2: Stanford's Medicine's Brainstorm Lab for Mental Health Innovation. Quote. The

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Speaker 2: difficulty logging off meaning interaction with the AI chatbots. The

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Speaker 2: difficulty in logging off doesn't mean something is wrong with

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Speaker 2: the team. It means the tech worked exactly as designed.

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Speaker 2: That is, I think that just like hammers. The point home, Yes,

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Speaker 2: they want your children to spend all of their hours

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Speaker 2: engaging with artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 10: The strong comparison that I have yet to see break down.

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Speaker 10: Brian is Big Tobacco.

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Speaker 2: So I mentioned that earlier. You and I are right

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Speaker 2: channel and then right.

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Speaker 10: But you know here here's why I mentioned big Tobacco.

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Speaker 10: What came out about Big Tobacco eventually was all of

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Speaker 10: their advertising, from the Marlborough Man to Joe Campbell was

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Speaker 10: aimed at fourteen year olds. Because if you start a

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Speaker 10: fourteen year old smoking, they'll smoke for life. That's the

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Speaker 10: big tech model. Big Tech desperately wants younger and younger

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Speaker 10: people because if they get you, you're going to stick

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Speaker 10: with them and you can't stop. And you know, we

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Speaker 10: have to the legal system in a sense, and our

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Speaker 10: politicians have to catch up with that cutting edge of

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Speaker 10: what's happening in kids, because even millennials struggle with this

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Speaker 10: because it didn't happen to them when they were ten.

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Speaker 10: It happened to them when they were you know, teenagers

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Speaker 10: reaching twenty years old. Suddenly they're on social media. They

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Speaker 10: weren't ten year olds on social media talking to fake

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Speaker 10: accounts from India exactly.

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Speaker 2: And Colin the other point, mad about the Agger companies,

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Speaker 2: they had their own internal research which confirmed that Yeah

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Speaker 2: Tobacco is bad for you. But they hid that evidence,

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Speaker 2: which sounds me along the lines of what Meta is

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Speaker 2: doing so terrible stuff. It just keeps getting worse every day,

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Speaker 2: I suppose. I mean that, is there a legislative solution?

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Speaker 2: I mean I I was screaming early in the program

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Speaker 2: about TikTok. I want this X feature on TikTok. Not

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Speaker 2: that the Chinese is going to provide it, but is

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Speaker 2: there some mechanism, some simple solution or even complex solution

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Speaker 2: that helps save our young people from this disaster? Or

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Speaker 2: do we just need to take our kids off the

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Speaker 2: damn apps.

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Speaker 10: I have several answers to that, and I'll keep them,

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Speaker 10: keep them brief. You know, eventually we're going to need

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Speaker 10: some legislative solutions.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 10: What I firm believe in my heart is that when

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Speaker 10: I watch I've been watching Kojak from the seventies, yea,

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Speaker 10: and it's a little shocking because every scene, you know,

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Speaker 10: Telly Savalas and others are smoking everywhere in hospitals, police stations.

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Speaker 10: We look at that, you know, I'm sick. I look

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Speaker 10: at that, and I'm a little shocked. Right, I believe

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Speaker 10: in twenty or thirty years, people are going to watch

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Speaker 10: our TV and movies of teenagers staring at phones, and

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Speaker 10: they're going to be shocked. How on earth did these

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Speaker 10: people let these kids ruin their lives with AI convenions

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Speaker 10: of phones?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as we as we crawl from the wreckage of

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Speaker 2: allowing them to do that for so many years. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like looking back at the Great Depression.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 10: Oh right, So how do we get there? That's a trick.

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Speaker 10: That's a tricky question. But you know, you and I

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Speaker 10: have talked before. It really comes down to parents. Parents,

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Speaker 10: right now, you have to be all over your kids

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Speaker 10: when it comes especially to AI, because AI will ruin

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Speaker 10: them in a heartbeat, whether it's cheating on school so

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Speaker 10: they don't learn anything, or you know, getting into sort

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Speaker 10: of this romantic entanglement or for those you know, for

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Speaker 10: people listening who if your child's grandchild, whoever loved one

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Speaker 10: has en sort of you know, mental issue they've dealt

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Speaker 10: with in the past. AI can make that a thousand

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Speaker 10: times worse in about a week. Takes a little take responsibility.

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Speaker 2: You have to you have to say no, they're not

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Speaker 2: your friends or your children, help them out, stop it.

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Speaker 2: Colin made On tech editor Breitbart Thank you Colin for

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Speaker 2: joining the program and on behalf of my listening audience

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Speaker 2: and my family. To you and everybody at Breitbart, I

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Speaker 2: hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday, my friend.

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Speaker 10: Same to you and everyone in Cincy.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to having you back on real soon. Colin,

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Speaker 2: have a great day eight twenty two.

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Speaker 8: Right now.

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Speaker 2: If you have carsee d talk station of Cowen.

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Speaker 2: A thirty six. If you have car Se the talk station, Yes,

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Speaker 2: you can have technical difficulties on the Fify about Cassee

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Speaker 2: Morning Show. Unfortunately, unlike war, no one dies as a

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Speaker 2: consequence of technical difficulty on the morning show. Uh, we

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Speaker 2: have them on the telephone. Daniel Davis retire Lieutenant Colonel

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Speaker 2: with the Daniel Davis Deep Dive every Tuesday at this time,

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Speaker 2: well actually a little earlier on a normal Tuesday. Daniel Davis,

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Speaker 2: can you hear me, sir?

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Speaker 10: I can't hear you.

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Speaker 6: Gar to work this out, and no one died.

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Speaker 2: So that's a positive thing, Amen, my friend. That's one

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Speaker 2: of the joys of being a morning show host. You

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Speaker 2: don't have to worry about people dying. Now you might get

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Speaker 2: attacked for your opinions, but that's okay. I can take that,

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Speaker 2: all right. Dealer's choice, actually, retired lieutenant colonel's choice. Do

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Speaker 2: you want to start with the breakdown in the various

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Speaker 2: Ukraine Russian I don't know what. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: call them multi point proposals? We've got a nineteen point,

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Speaker 2: we got a twenty eight point or something, so far

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Speaker 2: we have no agreement, or alternatively, do you want to

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Speaker 2: start with the varied responses to the Hamas and Hisbala

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Speaker 2: situation with Israel?

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Speaker 1: Sir?

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Speaker 2: Pick your favorite.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so let's go with the Russia situation, since that's

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Speaker 11: the weirdest one, I guess.

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Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, lately, the Kremlin reject Europe's counterproposal. We

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Speaker 2: had this twenty eight point document the Trump administration unveiled

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Speaker 2: last week, which many were saying, you know, was was

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Speaker 2: a gift to Russia, and then the counterproposal from the

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Speaker 2: Europe I think it was like a nineteen point plan,

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Speaker 2: which Kremlin just rejected that. So it would start where

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Speaker 2: we usually end serve, but it doesn't sound like we've

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Speaker 2: gotten anywhere. What's your take on all this, Daniel, Davis.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, it's just more of the bizarre, uh,

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Speaker 11: just confused and just dysfunctional. I mean, there's no better

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Speaker 11: way to put it, more accurate way to put it.

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Speaker 2: This whole situation, because.

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Speaker 11: When the first information was leaked out, if there was

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Speaker 11: a twenty eight point proposal, it was apparently between Steve

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Speaker 11: Witkoff and a guy named Kriill Dimitriov on the Russian side,

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Speaker 11: and the Russian side said, well, from after it was leaked, well,

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Speaker 11: you know, it doesn't address a lot of our issues,

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02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:49,960
Speaker 11: but it does address some issues, so it's a good

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Speaker 11: start point. That's something that we can work with here,

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02:15:52,040 --> 02:15:54,560
Speaker 11: et cetera. But the minute that this thing hit the

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02:15:54,600 --> 02:15:57,720
Speaker 11: airwaves and people in the West started realizing and Kiev

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02:15:57,760 --> 02:16:00,480
Speaker 11: started realizing that there was something that discuss going on

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02:16:00,520 --> 02:16:03,680
Speaker 11: between the US and Russia, people just went crazy. And

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Speaker 11: first of all, over the weekend there was a lot

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Speaker 11: of information out among a lot of the elites in

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02:16:10,280 --> 02:16:13,480
Speaker 11: the West that this was actually a Russian proposal that

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02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:16,800
Speaker 11: they just foist it onto the Trump administration, and this

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02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:19,520
Speaker 11: was you know, obviously then you have to reject it

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02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:20,840
Speaker 11: because it's just their plan.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you had paid any attention at all to

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02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:25,440
Speaker 1: the plan. There was a number of points.

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Speaker 11: And I did six on my show that the Russians

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02:16:28,040 --> 02:16:31,360
Speaker 11: would categorically rejoice, they reject, they would never accept that.

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02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:33,440
Speaker 11: So the idea that it was a Russian plan was

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02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:36,920
Speaker 11: absurd at face value if you paid attention to face value.

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Speaker 11: What I think was going on Brian is that Europe

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02:16:40,520 --> 02:16:43,240
Speaker 11: is absolutely terrified of this war ending. I know that

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02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:47,680
Speaker 11: sounds strange, but they just cannot acknowledge that they have

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02:16:47,879 --> 02:16:50,240
Speaker 11: lost the war, That NATO has lost the war, the

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02:16:50,240 --> 02:16:53,760
Speaker 11: European Union and all their economic accepts have lost this war.

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02:16:54,040 --> 02:16:56,600
Speaker 11: But that is the case, and so they want to

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02:16:56,640 --> 02:16:59,920
Speaker 11: continue the fiction longer. And they're okay with you talk

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02:17:00,080 --> 02:17:01,800
Speaker 11: about people dying a gift.

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Speaker 2: This is real life.

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Speaker 11: People will continue to die on the Ukraine's side because

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02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:10,240
Speaker 11: of the unwillingness and the inability on the Western side

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02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:12,720
Speaker 11: to acknowledge this war must come to an end. And

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Speaker 11: you know, I have some issues with President Trump on

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02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:17,400
Speaker 11: several issues here, but this is one I'm in lockstep

2573
02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:19,920
Speaker 11: with him. I am one hundred percent behind his effort

2574
02:17:19,920 --> 02:17:23,840
Speaker 11: to get this over with by the least objectionable path possible.

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02:17:24,200 --> 02:17:27,760
Speaker 11: And it's important to understand there is no good path,

2576
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:29,800
Speaker 11: there's only the least offensive.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me just I guess I'm kind of curious

2578
02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:36,760
Speaker 2: about European Union's position given what you said, law we

2579
02:17:36,800 --> 02:17:39,480
Speaker 2: had to pull out of Vietnam not exactly a shining

2580
02:17:39,480 --> 02:17:41,200
Speaker 2: moment for the United States. Of course, you know, the

2581
02:17:41,240 --> 02:17:44,280
Speaker 2: Afghanistan withdrawal wasn't exactly a shining moment for the United States.

2582
02:17:44,400 --> 02:17:46,120
Speaker 2: You know, it didn't look good and we had to

2583
02:17:46,160 --> 02:17:48,280
Speaker 2: take our alums. We can't declare a win in the

2584
02:17:48,280 --> 02:17:52,320
Speaker 2: win column, but the futility of continuing in the face

2585
02:17:52,360 --> 02:17:54,920
Speaker 2: of you know, public opposition or whatever the case may be,

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02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:57,160
Speaker 2: we move on with our lives. Is this analogous to

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02:17:57,200 --> 02:17:59,400
Speaker 2: that at all? Are they just unwilling to admit defeat,

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02:17:59,520 --> 02:18:02,720
Speaker 2: or is this much greater in terms of their economic

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02:18:02,760 --> 02:18:05,680
Speaker 2: connection with Ukraine that really matters to them, even though

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02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:07,280
Speaker 2: they can't really do much about it.

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Speaker 11: Apparently, Well, it's a combination of both those in the

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02:18:10,800 --> 02:18:15,119
Speaker 11: worst way on each side. There was actually, interestingly also

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02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:18,560
Speaker 11: over last weekend in the Ukraine media, there was a

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02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:23,880
Speaker 11: lot of ankst that many of the leaders were oblivious

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02:18:24,160 --> 02:18:27,560
Speaker 11: are actually in Ukraine against Europe, saying you know, you

2596
02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:30,920
Speaker 11: guys keep talking this big game about wanting to defeat Russia, etc.

2597
02:18:31,360 --> 02:18:34,240
Speaker 11: But you have given this is a fact, more money

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02:18:34,800 --> 02:18:37,840
Speaker 11: to Russia since this war has started.

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02:18:37,480 --> 02:18:39,920
Speaker 1: To the Ukraine by continuing.

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02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:42,160
Speaker 11: To purchase their oil and in some cases, like with France,

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Speaker 11: even greater levels in this year than the previous two.

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Speaker 11: So the Ukraine side of saying, y'all are just playing

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02:18:48,280 --> 02:18:50,160
Speaker 11: both sides against the middle. You want cash if you

2604
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:52,120
Speaker 11: want the war to keep going on at our expense,

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Speaker 11: and that's the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: I think you know. I laughed. I literally, I don't

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02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:58,280
Speaker 2: know if you heard me laughing. That's like the definition

2608
02:18:58,360 --> 02:19:00,680
Speaker 2: of batcrap in scene, if I may use the term, sir.

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02:19:01,440 --> 02:19:04,640
Speaker 2: The European Union has embraced the zero carbon emissions crapp

2610
02:19:04,720 --> 02:19:06,959
Speaker 2: or so long they have destroyed their own economies, and

2611
02:19:06,959 --> 02:19:10,480
Speaker 2: here they are buying Russian oil to keep the power

2612
02:19:10,560 --> 02:19:14,279
Speaker 2: on because windmills don't cut it well, arguing that Russian

2613
02:19:14,280 --> 02:19:16,800
Speaker 2: needs to be defeated in the war. I can't make

2614
02:19:16,840 --> 02:19:18,280
Speaker 2: any sense out of this other than it say. It

2615
02:19:18,360 --> 02:19:21,760
Speaker 2: sounds like something out of some deranged science fiction maybe

2616
02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:23,960
Speaker 2: Salvado or DOLLI like parallel Universe.

2617
02:19:24,640 --> 02:19:28,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, that's that's probably the least defensive you can

2618
02:19:28,560 --> 02:19:31,920
Speaker 11: say about the European side, because it is totally divorced

2619
02:19:32,200 --> 02:19:36,280
Speaker 11: from military reality. This war is over at the conclusion

2620
02:19:36,360 --> 02:19:38,480
Speaker 11: is already known. It can't end any other way than

2621
02:19:38,520 --> 02:19:42,039
Speaker 11: a Russian victory, and European and the Ukraine side and

2622
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:45,160
Speaker 11: they're just their Ukraine leadership is embedded with this. On

2623
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:47,000
Speaker 11: top of of course, that's the other thing that the

2624
02:19:47,320 --> 02:19:50,000
Speaker 11: Ukrainian people were upset about is all the corruption that's

2625
02:19:50,040 --> 02:19:53,480
Speaker 11: now being exposed at the highest levels. So literally it's

2626
02:19:53,480 --> 02:19:56,360
Speaker 11: about money at the Ukraine leadership level, and at the

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02:19:56,400 --> 02:20:00,000
Speaker 11: European leadership level, it's all about cash, and they always

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02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:01,920
Speaker 11: talk about how much more money they're going to spend

2629
02:20:01,959 --> 02:20:05,199
Speaker 11: on defense, while zero willingness at all.

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Speaker 1: To engage in diplomacy.

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02:20:06,400 --> 02:20:09,680
Speaker 11: That is the state of Western leadership in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: It's a terrible thing to behold, it really is. And meanwhile,

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02:20:13,080 --> 02:20:16,440
Speaker 2: young people and older people are being slaughtered on the battlefield,

2634
02:20:16,720 --> 02:20:19,560
Speaker 2: and just while all this incompetence swirls around, I just

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02:20:19,879 --> 02:20:22,480
Speaker 2: it just breaks my heart. Daniel Davis deep diyes where

2636
02:20:22,480 --> 02:20:24,760
Speaker 2: you get the podcast, find it and regularly listen to it.

2637
02:20:24,800 --> 02:20:27,680
Speaker 2: I do and then the other pivot over to the

2638
02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:31,920
Speaker 2: Trump administration seems to be displeased with Israel's response to

2639
02:20:31,959 --> 02:20:35,040
Speaker 2: an en minor incursion in Gaza, and yet seems to

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02:20:35,080 --> 02:20:38,040
Speaker 2: be okay with Israel's response that has Balla over in Lebanon.

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Speaker 2: What's the difference, Daniel Davis.

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02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:43,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know this.

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Speaker 11: I was telling a colleague just last week that we

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02:20:48,560 --> 02:20:51,520
Speaker 11: claimed that piece has come to the Middle East. But

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02:20:51,959 --> 02:20:54,560
Speaker 11: when you look at the amount of attacks in the

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02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:58,039
Speaker 11: Gaza Strip and especially the West Bank since this you know,

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02:20:58,160 --> 02:21:00,680
Speaker 11: sea spar so called, was brought into effect, you would

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02:21:00,760 --> 02:21:03,120
Speaker 11: never know the Sea spark because they continued to be

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02:21:03,280 --> 02:21:06,960
Speaker 11: lots of attacks and then sometimes the homicide fires back,

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02:21:06,959 --> 02:21:09,200
Speaker 11: and then of course they get this huge response back

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02:21:09,200 --> 02:21:12,320
Speaker 11: from the Israeli side. In my estimation, if I was

2652
02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:14,080
Speaker 11: just looking at the ground, I would never have even

2653
02:21:14,120 --> 02:21:17,279
Speaker 11: known there was an alleged ceasefire. But the fighting continues

2654
02:21:17,320 --> 02:21:19,840
Speaker 11: going on. And then now then you add this issue

2655
02:21:19,840 --> 02:21:23,400
Speaker 11: back in Hezbela and in Beirut, et cetera, and that

2656
02:21:23,879 --> 02:21:28,160
Speaker 11: was also supposed to have been in a semi ceasefire situation,

2657
02:21:28,600 --> 02:21:31,840
Speaker 11: but then Israel just launched into this assassination. You know,

2658
02:21:31,879 --> 02:21:34,560
Speaker 11: decapitation struck, and they continued hit in the southern part.

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02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:36,840
Speaker 11: So it just looks to me like Israel still at

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02:21:36,840 --> 02:21:38,920
Speaker 11: war and I don't know where they're going. I don't

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02:21:38,920 --> 02:21:41,440
Speaker 11: know what the ejective verse because I don't see a

2662
02:21:41,480 --> 02:21:45,680
Speaker 11: militarily obtainable ebjective. I just see lots of shots and firing,

2663
02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:48,119
Speaker 11: and it just keeps the situation rolled up.

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02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:52,680
Speaker 2: Maybe just engage in population control, sir. Sorry, I had

2665
02:21:52,720 --> 02:21:53,959
Speaker 2: to say that.

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02:21:53,560 --> 02:21:57,200
Speaker 11: I hope that's not the case, but it's an ugly

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02:21:57,280 --> 02:22:00,440
Speaker 11: situation with no apparent resolution that I can see it

2668
02:22:00,440 --> 02:22:01,120
Speaker 11: anytime soon.

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02:22:01,400 --> 02:22:04,879
Speaker 2: Someday, sir, someday you and I will have a positive conversation.

2670
02:22:04,920 --> 02:22:07,280
Speaker 2: I know it typiclarly in dark conversations of late on

2671
02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:07,680
Speaker 2: that day.

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Speaker 10: I thought, this week before Thanksgiving, I thought we'd be able.

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02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:15,080
Speaker 2: To have Hello Daniel Davis deep dive every Tuesday here

2674
02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:16,840
Speaker 2: in the fifty five Case Morning Show at eight thirty

2675
02:22:16,879 --> 02:22:19,080
Speaker 2: normally unless we have a technical difficulty where no one dies,

2676
02:22:19,080 --> 02:22:20,959
Speaker 2: which is good, but you can find him wherever you

2677
02:22:20,959 --> 02:22:23,120
Speaker 2: get your podcasts regularly. I encourage you to do that,

2678
02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:25,920
Speaker 2: Daniel Davis, from behalf of my listening audience and my

2679
02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:28,920
Speaker 2: family to yours. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving,

2680
02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:30,640
Speaker 2: that you do have something to be thankful for, and

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02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:32,760
Speaker 2: I'll look forward to another conversation with you next week.

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02:22:33,160 --> 02:22:35,000
Speaker 2: We do look forward to see then, take care of

2683
02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:36,840
Speaker 2: my friend A forty five fifty five care see the

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02:22:36,959 --> 02:22:40,959
Speaker 2: talk station, don't go, I'd be right back. Hey, forty

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Speaker 2: nine fifty five car, see the talk station. Half e

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Speaker 2: Tuesday off the rest of the week. Smoke them if

2687
02:22:48,920 --> 02:22:50,880
Speaker 2: you got a mode for Brian Thomas using up some

2688
02:22:50,959 --> 02:22:54,000
Speaker 2: vacation days. Of course, Thanksgiving is already a vacation day

2689
02:22:54,000 --> 02:22:57,600
Speaker 2: for iHeartMedia. I will be enjoying a gorgeous Thanksgiving dinner

2690
02:22:57,640 --> 02:23:00,640
Speaker 2: with family and considering it's my favorite, I know I'm

2691
02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:02,960
Speaker 2: gonna have a good time. Got a perfect a mindset

2692
02:23:02,959 --> 02:23:05,280
Speaker 2: for that one. I hope you do too. Those terrible

2693
02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:06,720
Speaker 2: things going on in the world, you can choose to

2694
02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:08,640
Speaker 2: be blue and angry about it all the time, or

2695
02:23:08,680 --> 02:23:10,080
Speaker 2: you can stop for a moment and just like I

2696
02:23:10,120 --> 02:23:12,240
Speaker 2: always like to point out on a Friday, what a

2697
02:23:12,280 --> 02:23:15,640
Speaker 2: wonderful world with joy ramone. It depends on where you're looking,

2698
02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:20,760
Speaker 2: So try to be in a good mood please, and

2699
02:23:20,800 --> 02:23:26,520
Speaker 2: don't be that guy or gal at Thanksgiving dinner with family,

2700
02:23:26,680 --> 02:23:29,400
Speaker 2: bringing up matters divisive and political. We got enough of

2701
02:23:29,400 --> 02:23:32,080
Speaker 2: that going on in our day to day world. Sit back, relax,

2702
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:35,680
Speaker 2: have a cocktail, maybe play a card game. Enjoy the food.

2703
02:23:35,800 --> 02:23:38,920
Speaker 2: Regardless of what kind of food you have. You have food,

2704
02:23:39,120 --> 02:23:42,720
Speaker 2: enjoy it and be thankful for it. Anihow And yes, Maureen,

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02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:45,520
Speaker 2: I said population control of Daniel Davis because I knew

2706
02:23:45,560 --> 02:23:51,280
Speaker 2: you were out there listening. She's all about population controlled

2707
02:23:51,320 --> 02:23:53,520
Speaker 2: by our global elites. Annie How, let's go to the phones.

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02:23:53,520 --> 02:23:57,000
Speaker 2: They see what Mississippi James's got. Mississippi James. Good to

2709
02:23:57,080 --> 02:23:58,440
Speaker 2: hear from you, my friend. I hope you and your

2710
02:23:58,480 --> 02:24:01,040
Speaker 2: beautiful bride have a happy thanks and to spend time

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02:24:01,080 --> 02:24:03,000
Speaker 2: with some family. Welcome back. It's good to hear from

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02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:03,400
Speaker 2: you today.

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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I come in peace of everybody and there's

2714
02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:08,640
Speaker 8: nothing you can do about it.

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02:24:08,680 --> 02:24:10,920
Speaker 2: Perfect message, all right.

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02:24:10,959 --> 02:24:14,879
Speaker 8: I want to talk about the elon musk Ai algorithms,

2717
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:18,280
Speaker 8: whatever you know he got going on. Yes, and that's

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02:24:18,280 --> 02:24:20,800
Speaker 8: a good thing. I like it, and I see a

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02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:23,160
Speaker 8: lot of other people. Some of your listeners like it,

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02:24:23,800 --> 02:24:26,560
Speaker 8: but I also hope they like it. When he finished

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02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:30,240
Speaker 8: up his agorithm about the Bibles. You know, the Bible

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02:24:30,320 --> 02:24:34,520
Speaker 8: is black history from the region it was creating. Now,

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02:24:34,520 --> 02:24:37,400
Speaker 8: well it's true or not, that's a different story, and

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02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:41,240
Speaker 8: that's not my point in this conversation. But from the

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02:24:41,320 --> 02:24:44,920
Speaker 8: region that came from those with black, dark skinned peoples

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02:24:44,959 --> 02:24:45,360
Speaker 8: over there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get no argument from me on that, James.

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02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:51,039
Speaker 2: I've agreed with you on that point. You know, just

2729
02:24:51,120 --> 02:24:53,840
Speaker 2: considering the region and that time of the era of

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02:24:53,879 --> 02:24:56,360
Speaker 2: the world, there is no doubt in my mind, and

2731
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Speaker 2: I even acknowledge that, you know, the white Jesus depiction

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02:24:59,280 --> 02:25:02,800
Speaker 2: was was an opportunity to convince Northern Europeans, where there

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Speaker 2: were no people of color during that period of time,

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02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:07,360
Speaker 2: that they should be following the religion. I mean that

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02:25:07,640 --> 02:25:10,600
Speaker 2: that's marketing in a sense, James. So I'm agreeing with

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02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:12,720
Speaker 2: you on that.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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Speaker 8: You mean, but we need this to a larger arena

2739
02:25:16,760 --> 02:25:19,680
Speaker 8: and maybe Eon Musk could get it out there and

2740
02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:22,920
Speaker 8: people will see it's a whole lot of manipulation have

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02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:30,040
Speaker 8: gone on, have destroyed region, colonized people, people, enflaying people's

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Speaker 8: all of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not just Christianity that can be blamed for that.

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02:25:34,959 --> 02:25:37,680
Speaker 2: Anytime there is something that people believe in, I don't

2745
02:25:37,720 --> 02:25:40,560
Speaker 2: care what it happens to be your country, your culture,

2746
02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:43,400
Speaker 2: your religion. It's a divisive reality. And unless you're sitting

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02:25:43,440 --> 02:25:45,400
Speaker 2: across from that group and can say, all right, I

2748
02:25:45,440 --> 02:25:47,160
Speaker 2: don't believe in what you believe, but I can live

2749
02:25:47,200 --> 02:25:49,200
Speaker 2: and play nicely with you in this world we have.

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02:25:49,680 --> 02:25:51,720
Speaker 2: That's one thing. But when it becomes a source of

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02:25:51,800 --> 02:25:55,600
Speaker 2: conflict and anger and division and often war and murder,

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Speaker 2: and then that's a horse of a different color.

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Speaker 8: No, wait a minute, did I say anything about Christianity?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Noll You mentioned the Bible, didn't you. Yeah, okay, well

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Speaker 2: that would be Christianity.

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Speaker 8: There's an eat the Opium Bible.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was King Jane.

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Speaker 8: That's probably the fifth translation of fifth transliteration.

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Speaker 2: Oh how many iterations are there's like fifty thirty of them?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Right, So I wasn't speaking of Christianity. You know, there's

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Speaker 8: an eat the Opening Bible. That wasn't about Christianity. That

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Speaker 8: was about spirituality.

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Speaker 2: All right. I just figured, since you conceded that we

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Speaker 2: were talking about Jesus and his depiction, that we were

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Speaker 2: talking about Christianity generally. But no, you're talking about anything

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Speaker 2: Bible wise.

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Speaker 8: Right, anything in the beginning of what we can fuss.

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Speaker 8: We can go back and it's just accepted belief. It's

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Speaker 8: a theory, it's indoctrination, all that stuff. And the best

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Speaker 8: I can do is narrow down the two or three theories.

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Speaker 8: Now after that, I'm gonnafend some people with my theory.

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Speaker 8: Some people gonna agree with my theory. So this reason,

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Speaker 8: I'd say, hey, if we just don't go to crucify

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Speaker 8: person just because your belief is different there that your

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Speaker 8: indocted nation is different to them, because none of us

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Speaker 8: really know. You know, this world been around here where

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Speaker 8: you look at the world and the earth and whatnot

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Speaker 8: for millions of years.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, there is no.

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Speaker 8: Way we can call ourselves intelligent beings instead of fresh

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Speaker 8: peoples because they just got a different opinion of you.

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Speaker 2: You're exactly You're articulating thoughts exactly along the lines of

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Speaker 2: why I consider myself to be a libertarian, little libertarian.

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Speaker 2: I trust you with your life decisions, James. I can

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Speaker 2: live and play nicely with you in this world, especially

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Speaker 2: in the United States, where, at least up until now,

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Speaker 2: we've enjoyed the freedom and liberty to go different directions

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Speaker 2: and live in the same communities together. That's what I'm

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02:27:48,440 --> 02:27:51,480
Speaker 2: all about. That's what I preach every day. Man, I'm

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Speaker 2: with you. Hey, we're going to get there. We just

2794
02:27:54,400 --> 02:27:56,600
Speaker 2: got to the bone at it. I hope we don't

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02:27:56,680 --> 02:28:01,439
Speaker 2: get there. It just made me think the oldest profession.

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Speaker 2: We all know what that is. Maybe marketing is the

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Speaker 2: oldest profession. Maybe we should look at it along those lines,

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Speaker 2: because there's a lot of marketing going on there and

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Speaker 2: it goes back a long long time. James, have a

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Speaker 2: great Thanksgiving in my best your better half, and I

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Speaker 2: look forward to seeing you. We get back in town

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Speaker 2: for the next listener lunch when you can make it.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the better weather in mississipp at least I presume

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Speaker 2: it is. God bless you, sir. Thanks again for calling.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you tuning into the program wherever you happen to be.

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Speaker 2: That's what the iHeartMedia app is all about. James heads

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Speaker 2: back to Mississippi, he can still tune in and listen

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Speaker 2: to the show and chime in again on behalf of

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Speaker 2: my family to every one in the listening audience. I truly, truly,

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02:28:37,640 --> 02:28:39,680
Speaker 2: truly believe that you and hope that you have a

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Speaker 2: very happy Thanksgiving. Put some thought into it if you're

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Speaker 2: heading in a different direction. Thanks for tuning in today.

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Speaker 2: The head Tech Tuesday with Dave had Ter, Congressman Warren

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Speaker 2: Davidson bring him acount from the Hudson Institute on latest

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Speaker 2: on energy policies. The inside scoop of Bright Barton News

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Speaker 2: on this development with X which I think is fantastic,

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Speaker 2: also meta hiding the main other research that yes, your

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Speaker 2: children are being significantly harmed by social media. It's all there,

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Speaker 2: fifty five Ksey dot Com and of course a Daniel

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Speaker 2: Davis deep dive. Thank you Sean McMahon for covering for

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Speaker 2: the vacationing Joe Strecker. Sean will update the page and

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Speaker 2: include the blog post or the podcast post. Download your

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Speaker 2: iheartmediap while you're there so you can be like Mississippi

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Speaker 2: James wherever you happen to be. And again, from my

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Speaker 2: family to yours, Happy Thanksgiving. Kevin Gordon covering for me tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I'll be back on Monday, and I hope you stick

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Speaker 2: around because Glenn Beck's up next