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Speaker 1: Nils Gravillius, private detective extraordinaire the Gravilious Detective Services Office

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Speaker 1: on the West coast to us here in the Ohio

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Speaker 1: River Valley, and he joins us tonight to talk about

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Speaker 1: many things. I guess the top of mind stuff, Nils,

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Speaker 1: is the Nancy Guthrie case. But welcome, it's great to

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Speaker 2: Well, it's my pleasure. I want to give a shout

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Speaker 2: out to everyone in the Ohio River Valley. Yes, even

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Speaker 2: the rascals down over in Puthington in Baja Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I happen to live in northern Kentucky, so I resemble

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Speaker 1: that remark. Thank you. The Nancy Guthrie case. And as

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Speaker 1: a private detective, gosh licensed in nineteen ninety two, but

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Speaker 1: before that you were a soldier. You conducted clandestine operations

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Speaker 1: literally all over the world. What is your take on this?

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Speaker 1: It's one of the stranger cases we've been confronted with

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Speaker 1: But what's your observations on the investigation thus far? Nils?

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so, Gary JFF Walker, this is what I think.

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Speaker 2: If this is a bona fide kidnapping for ransom, it

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Speaker 2: is the highest profile kidnapping for ransom undertaken in this

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Speaker 2: country since Patty Hurst in the mid seventies. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: that makes it extraordinary. If that is the case, I

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Speaker 2: am skeptical. This may very well be a homicide that

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Speaker 2: was either staged to look like a kidnapping or incorrectly

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Speaker 2: identified as a kidnapping by the Pima County sheriff. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to gainsay the man. I don't know the

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Speaker 2: sheriff in that county, but they've searched Nancy Gothrie's property

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Speaker 2: a couple of times now. I think yesterday they were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the manhole covers being removed and they're examining those.

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Speaker 1: I guess for a possibility that they may have dumped

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Speaker 2: That is correct, And if that's the case, chances are

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Speaker 2: very good it's somebody very close to Nancy. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to speculate who might have done it without any evidence,

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Speaker 2: but it doesn't look good. They've also served searched once

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Speaker 2: at her daughter's house, Anny Gothrie's house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is too if it's someone close, if

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Speaker 1: it's an extended family member, for example, they seem like

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Speaker 1: the three Guthrie children, her three kids, an Annie, and

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Speaker 1: their brother seem pretty tight knit, and they seem very close.

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Speaker 1: And if they had any inkling that anyone in their

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Speaker 1: they'd say so?

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Speaker 2: One would think so. But you know, Gary, I think

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Speaker 2: we're speculating a bit here. Yeah, sure, because we just

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Speaker 2: don't have enough information. And you're heading in the right

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Speaker 2: direction with this. There's something very awry with the whole thing,

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Speaker 2: whether it's a kidnapping or murder. What if there's someone

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Speaker 2: close to the family who isn't a good person, someone

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Speaker 2: like that. And we see these things over and over

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Speaker 2: again depicted in popular culture, like in Game of Thrones, right,

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Speaker 1: Well, anyway, it does boggle the mind at this point,

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Speaker 2: It is truly so now Gary, I'm going to point

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Speaker 2: there was a very active kidnapping ring, kidnapping for ransom

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Speaker 2: ring operating out of San Miguel Deiende, Mexico. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not trying to blame Mexico for this problem, but it

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Speaker 2: it was you know, highly stayed age, highly planned, almost

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Speaker 2: The kidnappers operating out of out of San Miguel de

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Speaker 2: Allende were chile and communists who had had to flee

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Speaker 2: to Mexico with their eyes of Pinochet and just turn

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Speaker 2: their their craft. You can, you can find it easily

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Speaker 2: in a Google search. The last one, the leader of

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Speaker 2: it could be somebody mimicking their modus kidnapping for ransom,

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I certainly considered that it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope I'm wrong. But they found a blood

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Speaker 1: Gary, I agree, I agree, But I was mentioning wanted

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Speaker 1: to switch gears. Nils Gravillius as our guest private detective

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Speaker 1: extraordinaire and author of the upcoming book, The Last law Man,

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Speaker 1: True Stories of a Private Detective, which will be out

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Speaker 1: here fairly shortly June.

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Speaker 2: June of this year. All right, you can pre order

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Speaker 2: it on Amazon.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've plugged that. We've plugged the book every time

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Speaker 1: you've been on Nils as we should. The pre order

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Speaker 1: sales must be up around one million by now. I'm

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Speaker 1: certain it.

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Speaker 2: May be two million. Okay. If it hits three million,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go to Cincinnati over the summer.

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Speaker 2: I'll do a studio event with you if you could

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Speaker 2: survive it, and I'll take you to a to a

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reds game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, what do I get if I if we

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Speaker 1: don't sell three million.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll send I'll send an aged leathery porn star

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Speaker 2: out to visit you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, My wife will appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Nils No, no wrong, Jeremy is a nice guy. I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm being funny. I'm being funny, so I'm being

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Speaker 2: unnecessarily Laura.

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Speaker 1: Let's switch. Let's switch gears here a little bit. Democrats

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Speaker 1: push for body cameras on ice agents, which I was thought, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: that sounds fine to me. They you say, they may

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Speaker 1: soon regret it. And I've had the same thoughts. As

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Speaker 1: the footage emerges of these people who are protesting ice

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Speaker 2: Democrats can't run, can't run away from this idea fast enough.

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Speaker 5: Gary.

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Speaker 2: They're not trying to. They're now trying to limit how

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Speaker 2: the footage can be used, you know, as if they

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Speaker 2: would wouldn't advantage themselves with video footage. Remember when they

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Speaker 2: served search wants at Marra A Lago and at Roberstone's house,

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Speaker 2: that sort of thing. They had Missus Stone and handcuffs

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Speaker 1: It almost seems at this point like a failed fad,

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Speaker 1: because you know, the White House, President Trump and Ice

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Speaker 1: I just think that people aren't going to be putting

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Speaker 2: Well, it's uh, these are the kids who were chewing

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Speaker 2: Then I dye my hair purple. Then I wear an

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Speaker 1: Like, well, if it stopped them from trying to transition

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Speaker 2: It is. There's a video footage out of Minneapolis over

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Speaker 2: the next quarantine they're not going to have anything to do.

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Speaker 1: They won't have any boyfriends or girlfriends. Right, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: Oh what else is? You know? Something I wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask you about, Since you conducted all these clande clandestine

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't care to speculate, gay I could say, but

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Speaker 2: we probably do have them though. Well, okay, let's go

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Speaker 2: back in time, shall we.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy seven, Jimmy Carter Stansfield Turner fired seven hundred

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Speaker 2: clandestine operators of the CIA, all of their old jockstrat commandos,

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Speaker 2: they all got fired, right, and then two years later

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Speaker 2: I think they're finally getting back to meat and potatoes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you know that we had to have them

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Speaker 2: and do those things. I think Cuba is teetering.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you on the show. Welcome back.

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Speaker 6: An organization called All Sides to the Blind study. They

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Speaker 6: But if you don't, you know, I call I called

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Speaker 1: Very creative, right, did you get like a bunch of

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Speaker 4: For your new show.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate where where do people Where do people hear

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Speaker 6: So you can watch it on YouTube? Yeah, so it's

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Speaker 1: Right, and there's been a bunch of in depth reporting

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Speaker 1: ID when I vote, I have to show my ID

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Speaker 1: when I buy a beer. I have to show my

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Speaker 1: ID to do all these things. You can't get on

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Speaker 1: a plane without a real ID. Why wouldn't you have

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Speaker 1: to have at least a photo ID that's legitimate to

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Speaker 1: cast a ballot and prove you're a citizen, because voting

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Speaker 1: is for the citizens of this country, not the citizens

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Speaker 1: of every other country.

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Speaker 2: At the world. I'll get this.

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Speaker 6: Senate Minority Chuck Schumer came out and said that the

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Speaker 6: voter ID. He's saying, it's so racist, yes, so incredibly racist,

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Speaker 6: that it is equivalent to Jim Crow. Meanwhile, let me

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Speaker 6: tell you a couple of factors here. Right Meanwhile, CNN

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Speaker 6: did a poll they found with the Democrat voters or

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Speaker 6: across the board, support for voter ID is over eighty percent,

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Speaker 6: and among Black Americans in the mid seventy percent, like

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Speaker 6: seventy six percent around that. So, imagine you're sitting at

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Speaker 6: a table with your black friend and you're like, well,

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Speaker 6: this is racist because black people can't get IDs and

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Speaker 6: your black friend, what do you think your friend's going

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Speaker 6: to say to you? That is one of the most

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Speaker 6: racist things I've ever heard. Like, that's I'd be offended

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Speaker 6: you I'd imagine too. Imagine if your black friend is saying,

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Speaker 6: I have an ID, I can vote, and you're like, no,

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Speaker 6: you're not. You're just too victimized to realize it.

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Speaker 3: Like what kind of a narrative is that?

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Speaker 6: And it makes you question, like, well, if that's not

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Speaker 6: the real issue, then what is the What is the

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Speaker 6: problem with voter ID The constituents wanted and by race

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Speaker 6: people wanted, So what is the real issue with it?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the biggest issue when it comes to voting,

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Speaker 1: I think this year with the midterms. Besides, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's the economy stupid first and foremost, as you mentioned

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Speaker 1: the affordability issue, but then the scandals The other part

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Speaker 1: is this redistricting. Virginia is trying to outlaw Republicans in

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Speaker 1: much the same way Massachusetts has done with their representation

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Speaker 1: in that state, basically locking out any Republicans. As we

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Speaker 1: head towards the midterms, all the noise it was made

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Speaker 1: about Texas and Missouri and some of these other states

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Speaker 1: redistricting which benefited Republicans is being counterbalanced by something that

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Speaker 1: Democrat led states have been doing for years. Is there

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Speaker 1: jerry mandering?

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Speaker 6: Well, the I only with that is it depends on

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Speaker 6: how you determine what racism is. You know, when I

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Speaker 6: was growing up, and I'm sure you're growing up, if

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Speaker 6: you looked at the dictionary and read the definition of racism,

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Speaker 6: it's it's discrimination based on a person's race, creed, and

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Speaker 6: you know anything else like this right based on the

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Speaker 6: national origin. They've actually redefined racism. If you were to

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Speaker 6: read the dictionary right now as we speak, the Webster

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Speaker 6: Dictionary and read the definition definition of racism, it's no

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Speaker 6: longer about discrimination based on race. It's discrimination based on

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Speaker 6: socioeconomic factors. It's it's social economics. And so, in other words,

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Speaker 6: they say it's only racism if you're a racist downward

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Speaker 6: but not upwards. So it's they believe it's perfectly justified

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Speaker 6: and not racist to be racist, for example, against white people.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's kind of racist, frankfully. And that's

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Speaker 6: the narrative being used to block redistricting because they say, well,

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Speaker 6: more white voters are Republican, and you know that if

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Speaker 6: your redistrict in favor of Republicans, you're you know, excluding

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Speaker 6: equal representation. But guess what, we don't live in, you know,

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Speaker 6: an equity country where you have like a you know,

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Speaker 6: a white person is a two thirds vote or something

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Speaker 6: like that.

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Speaker 3: Because that's the way they're doing it.

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Speaker 6: Frankly. You know, we're bringing back like slave there or requirements.

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Speaker 6: But they but they downgrade the weight of a vote

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Speaker 6: of a white person by effectively doing that, they're saying

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Speaker 6: you count as less than a vote effectively.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's the new three fifths clause basically.

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Speaker 6: That that is, I mean, in terms of redistricting. That's

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Speaker 6: one of the chiefs.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing in Hakeem Jeffries was on the same track.

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing. The Democrats, Schumer and Jeffries are

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Speaker 1: going against eighty percent of the country in poll after poll.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the CNN poll, but in every poll I've

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Speaker 1: seen eighty percent of Americans plus I think you should

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Speaker 1: have an ID, a photo ID to vote. It is

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Speaker 1: another one of those eighty twenty issues. It's like boys

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Speaker 1: and girls' sports. It's they keep clinging to these ideas

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Speaker 1: that are not popular for anyone, but they're fringe and

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Speaker 1: their inner party power.

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Speaker 6: I mean, and again it makes you question what the

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Speaker 6: real issue is because I mean, it's a it's a

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Speaker 6: bizarre thing if you come out and establish a narrative

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Speaker 6: claiming victimization of one group is the entire basement, and

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Speaker 6: that group comes out publicly and says, no, that's not

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Speaker 6: the case, and you're saying the quiet, sit down.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: It is like, like, you know, what is the real issue.

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Speaker 4: We're dealing with?

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Speaker 6: And that that's leading I think a lot of people

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Speaker 6: to say, well, maybe it's not about race. Maybe it's

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Speaker 6: because you guys just don't want voter security for some reason,

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Speaker 6: you know, Like you know, I think if they believe

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Speaker 6: that ID was racist, they be fighting to overturn ID

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Speaker 6: to buy.

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Speaker 2: Alcohol, sure, absolutely, or.

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Speaker 6: Heck or heck overturning you know, gun registration.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say that was my next go to Joshua.

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Speaker 1: You know that that Well, you don't have to register

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Speaker 1: your gun? What you just you just told me you

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Speaker 1: wanted to take guns away, but now you don't have

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Speaker 1: to register a gun because it's racist to prove who

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Speaker 1: you are. Okay, you can't have you can't have it

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Speaker 1: both ways, man, the Joshua Phillips Show it how often

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Speaker 1: do you do a drop on that on YouTube? Josh?

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Speaker 6: So the Josh Phillips Show is once a week. It's

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Speaker 6: Tuesday's four pm Eastern. Okay, of course you can watch

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Speaker 6: it anytime. And yeah, so the Josh Philip chofending want

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Speaker 6: to check it out.

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 1: Fantastic The Epoch Times, it's it's you know what, it's

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Speaker 1: fully examined it because it's just such great balanced news reporting.

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Speaker 1: And you guys do a fantastic job, and so do you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again for being here. Thanks for being on the show.

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Speaker 4: Josh, yeah, anytime.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, great, we continue on this nightcap in

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Speaker 1: just a few minutes. America's psychiatrist, the terrorist therapist, doctor

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Speaker 1: Carol Lieberman. When was the last time that you had

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Speaker 1: a therapy session? Maybe time again? Seven hundred WLW therapist herself,

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Speaker 1: doctor Carol Lieberman joins us again on the nightcap, Doctor Lieberman, greeting,

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Speaker 1: salutations and all of that. It's great to talk to

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Speaker 1: you again.

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Speaker 3: How are you hey, same here, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Among other things. You know that the elephant news story

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Speaker 1: in room for the last week plus has been the disappearance,

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Speaker 1: perhaps kidnapping, perhaps worse, of Nancy Guthrie in the foothills

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Speaker 1: of Tucson, Arizona, from her home. And it's into the

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Speaker 1: ninth day now, almost to the tenth day since anyone

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Speaker 1: last saw her, anyone as far as we know, and

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Speaker 1: the family last saw her. And you've heard the police

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Speaker 1: from Savannah and her siblings to bring their mother back.

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Speaker 1: There was a deadline today and still know Nancy as

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Speaker 1: far as we know. Any comments on what your family

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Speaker 1: goes through at a situation.

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Speaker 7: Like that, well, I mean it's torture, you know, it

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Speaker 7: has to be torture because not knowing and knowing how

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Speaker 7: precarious the whole thing is. She has a pacemaker, she's

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Speaker 7: missing her medications, which could be certainly within within a

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Speaker 7: day of not getting.

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Speaker 2: Them even.

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Speaker 7: But I'll tell you the thing that that struck me

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Speaker 7: from the beginning and that I still think is the

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Speaker 7: is the moral of this whole thing, that you know,

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Speaker 7: what people could learn besides just how how terrible it is,

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Speaker 7: and that really adult children should be much more concerned

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Speaker 7: about their older adult parents. The fact that she was

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Speaker 7: living alone, though I know she had good cognitive feels

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Speaker 7: there was nothing she wasn't to ner dementia or anything.

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Speaker 7: But she was out there in this big house in

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Speaker 7: this really deserted, desolate kind of place with all the

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Speaker 7: shrub and she supposedly had limited walking abilities, so there

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Speaker 7: was no way she could have walked to her neighbor

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Speaker 7: if she had some kind of emergency. And you know

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Speaker 7: how they didn't have better security, not just better cameras.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I know they took the camera off the

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Speaker 7: doctor did, but took better security altogether, like having you know,

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Speaker 7: bells going off if someone pushes in your front door

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Speaker 7: and things like that, and also more more contact. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 7: they saw her the night before supposedly, but I just

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Speaker 7: that was a situation that was an accident or a

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Speaker 7: disaster waiting to happen her being in that house, you know,

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Speaker 7: and continuing.

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Speaker 6: To get older.

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Speaker 1: You know, my parents are in their upper eighties now.

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Speaker 1: My dad's eighty nine, my mom's eighty eight. But about

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Speaker 1: four years ago they decided that they were going to

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Speaker 1: go ahead and sell their house because they felt like

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Speaker 1: and their house, believe me, in no way is dwarfed

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Speaker 1: by what where Nancy Guthrie was living there in Tucson,

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Speaker 1: just just a one story ranch house, very nice, but

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Speaker 1: not not all that huge. But they just felt like,

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Speaker 1: you know, they needed to be around people more than that.

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Speaker 1: They did not need around the clock medical care, for example.

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Speaker 1: But they're in their mid eighties, and they decided that

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Speaker 1: they couldn't take care of a house anymore the way

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Speaker 1: they know they should, and they wanted to have closer

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Speaker 1: contact with more people around them. Moved into a senior

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Speaker 1: living apartment nearby, and that's worked out well for them.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you get into your mid eighties, as Nancy

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Speaker 1: Guthrie has eighty four, there comes a time when I

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Speaker 1: heard and then saw the pictures of this house. She

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Speaker 1: was living in a thirty one hundred square feet I'm going.

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Speaker 1: I looked at my wife, I said, can you imagine

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Speaker 1: living by yourself at eighty four in a huge place

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Speaker 1: like that? I mean, why, you know other than she yes,

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Speaker 1: she liked her space and her stuff.

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Speaker 7: And that's I think that that's where the family, you know,

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Speaker 7: grew up and all that. But okay, but then you

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Speaker 7: have a housekeeper that comes every day, you know.

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Speaker 6: Something like that.

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Speaker 7: She had gardeners and pool. People think she did have

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Speaker 7: a housekeeper. Maybe that comes once, you know, maybe once

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Speaker 7: a week or something. But but that is not enough.

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Speaker 7: And and certainly it's just like the actor whose name

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Speaker 7: might keep forgetting, who lived in in Utah or who

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Speaker 7: died He and his wife died some months ago, no, no,

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Speaker 7: I remember his name, but anyway, he and his wife

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Speaker 7: were living in this very desolate place. Also I can't

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Speaker 7: remember who was Utah or something and uh and and

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Speaker 7: they were found dead eventually. I mean, people, I just

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Speaker 7: don't understand children. You know, it's just not you should

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Speaker 7: at least be in touch every single day. And and

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Speaker 7: and then there's this strange thing with the church. You

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Speaker 7: know that supposedly they noticed that she was missing from church.

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Speaker 7: But then there are other reports that say that that

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Speaker 7: church does their service by zoom or by some streaming

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Speaker 7: uh method, and that you couldn't really tell whether she

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Speaker 7: was there, So that there's something strange about that. There

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Speaker 7: is a there are a lot of strange things about

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Speaker 7: this whole story.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 7: I actually just me saying the one interesting thing that

655
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Speaker 7: I tweeted about this yesterday and got a whole bunch

656
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Speaker 7: of attention for it, but that no one's really been

657
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Speaker 7: talking about it. You know, the six million dollar Rounsom. Yeah,

658
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Speaker 7: that is a very specific figure. It's not five thousand,

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Speaker 7: it's not I mean millions, six million dollars. It's not

660
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Speaker 7: one million. It's not five million, ten million, six million.

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Speaker 7: Now that reminds me of John Benet when they asked

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Speaker 7: for one hundred and eighteen thousand, and that was the

663
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Speaker 7: bonus that her father had gotten for Christmas bonus. So

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Speaker 7: there is some significance to six million, and only the

665
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Speaker 7: kidnappers and the family would know what that is. But

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Speaker 7: that's the clue.

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Speaker 1: It is that that is very odd. You know what

668
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Speaker 1: else is very odd. Some of the most strange people

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. I've seen in the

670
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Speaker 1: last three four months protesting against ICE, whether it be

671
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Speaker 1: Minneapolis or anywhere else in the country. These are not

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Speaker 1: well people. And while you haven't examined all of them,

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Speaker 1: you have a broad range of possibilities of the maladies

674
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Speaker 1: they may be suffering from. Yes, and so let's let's

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Speaker 1: go through. The most obvious one is Trump derangement syndrome.

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Speaker 7: Right, and I think that is the majority. You know,

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Speaker 7: in other words, who are these people? First of all,

678
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Speaker 7: they're not protesters, because protesters don't try to attack police

679
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Speaker 7: or ICE. They just carry signs and scream a lot.

680
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Speaker 7: So these are I call rebels. And I have seven

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Speaker 7: diagnostic categories for them. Trump's arrangement syndrome is the number one,

682
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Speaker 7: because ICE agents they see as representatives of Trump, and

683
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Speaker 7: you know, it's like seeing Trump in front of them

684
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Speaker 7: and so and I have defined Trump's derangement disorder as

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Speaker 7: an irrational, quasi psychotic hatred of anything Trump, resulting in

686
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Speaker 7: rage and over the top efforts to destroy him and

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Speaker 7: his work. And then of course it can spread to

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Speaker 7: people who are associated with him.

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Speaker 2: Like J. D.

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Speaker 7: Bands elon musk and ice agents. And you know, I've

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Speaker 7: been working on a detailed diagnostic categories for Trump arrangement syndrome,

692
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Speaker 7: to detailed detailed ways to make a diagnosis of Trump

693
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Speaker 7: derangement syndrome in the mild, moderate, and severe stages, and

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Speaker 7: I am almost ready to propose it. To the point is,

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Speaker 7: I did all this to propose it to the American

696
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Speaker 7: Psychiatric Association so that they included as a real disorder

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Speaker 7: in the diagnostic and Statistical manual, which I know is

698
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Speaker 7: is a tough road to hoe, but yeah, I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's good for you. Another percentage of these anti

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Speaker 1: ice protesters are engaging in celebrity worship, you say, or

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Speaker 1: celebrity worship centers.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, and that is it's an obsessive, addictive disorder.

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Speaker 7: And it's not just being a fan of a celebrity.

704
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Speaker 7: It's really idolizing them and wanting to carry out what

705
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Speaker 7: they're telling you to do. So when we have people

706
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Speaker 7: like Bad Bunny and Billie Eilish and other people like

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Speaker 7: there were a lot of people at the grammysh who

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Speaker 7: were wearing buttons and so on to ice ice or

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Speaker 7: get rid of ice. So there are people who think

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Speaker 7: that they are making their celebrity happy, they're doing what

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Speaker 7: their celebrity wants them to do. Then there are mad hatters.

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Speaker 7: These are people who either have oppositional defiant disorder or

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Speaker 7: a conduct disorder. Oppositional defiant disorder is a is emotional dysregulation.

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Speaker 7: So in other words, they are sort of feeling all

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Speaker 7: feeling with all kinds of feelings like anger and irritability

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Speaker 7: and defiance, and then they get argumentative with authority figures.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see did you see? Did you see

718
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Speaker 1: the guy last week who got arrested with the face

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Speaker 1: tats and the neck tats who was Antifa all the

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Speaker 1: way and he was talking about picking up a gun

721
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Speaker 1: and literally killing and of course he got arrested. But

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Speaker 1: he seems like he would fall into the category of

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Speaker 1: a mad hatter that you're well.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, he would actually be the other one,

725
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Speaker 7: the other type of mad hatter, the conduct disorder. So

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Speaker 7: people with conduct disorder and not only have these angry thoughts,

727
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Speaker 7: they act out on them. Then we have lost souls,

728
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Speaker 7: and I think there are a fair number of those.

729
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Speaker 7: These are lonely people. They feel empty, they have empty

730
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Speaker 7: lives and they are lacking purpose in direction. Then the

731
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Speaker 7: anti ICE mob comes along and they give them some

732
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Speaker 7: purpose in direction, you know, to attack Ice and plus

733
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Speaker 7: it makes them feel part of a group. Then we

734
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Speaker 7: have the regressed rioters. These are people that can be

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Speaker 7: any age in real life, but they have regressed emotionally

736
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Speaker 7: to the stage of either a rebellious teenager or the

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Speaker 7: Terrible twos who have terrible two tantrums on ICE agents.

738
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Speaker 7: Then we have mister and missus personality. These are certain

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Speaker 7: personality disorders where that are more likely to be amongst

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Speaker 7: the rebels because there are certain in other words, certain

741
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Speaker 7: personality disorders are more likely to be involved. A paranoid

742
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Speaker 7: personality of course, because they look at the ICE agents

743
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Speaker 7: and they feel that they that the ICE agents are

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Speaker 7: trying to kill them, and so they get involved on

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Speaker 7: trying to attack.

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Speaker 1: Do you know you mentioned yeah, yeah, you mentioned narcissism.

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Speaker 7: Explain that, yes, Because narcissists feel that they should be

748
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Speaker 7: in the center of everything. And if this is what

749
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Speaker 7: is getting the attention, the media attention and all that,

750
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Speaker 7: you know, these attacks on ICE agents, then they're going

751
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Speaker 7: to be part of that borderline personalities. They are people

752
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 7: with very extreme emotions and it's easy to get caught

753
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Speaker 7: up with it. Anti social personalities, you know, that kind

754
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Speaker 7: of says it all. They are against society. And so

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Speaker 7: this is a way to act out schizotypical personalities. Is

756
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Speaker 7: they're not schizophrenics, but it's a personality disorder disorder, which

757
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 7: is like schizophrenia. Like they're not they're not a chicotic

758
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Speaker 7: all the time. Then, last, but not least, substance abusers,

759
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Speaker 7: because if someone is high on alcohol or drugs, what

760
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 7: do they want to do? They want to find a party, right,

761
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Speaker 7: And so these riots whatever you want to call them,

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Speaker 7: are look like you know, they're having a party.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, certainly, but but and that's a lot of different

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Speaker 1: disorders that are you know, I noticed you didn't mention

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Speaker 1: the awful disorder, which is of course the affluent white

766
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Speaker 1: female liberal. Oh well, yes, they probably one of the

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Speaker 1: other categories.

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Speaker 7: Well, yes, I was gonna say, yes, they're involved, they're included.

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Speaker 7: They're just things. They just have one of these one

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Speaker 7: of these mental illnesses. And yes, the these white women,

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Speaker 7: college educated white women are the ones who are most

772
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Speaker 7: likely to be afflicted with for women Trump, just the

773
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Speaker 7: women who are most likely to be affected by Trump

774
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Speaker 7: derangement syndrome. Actually, of all the people who have it

775
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Speaker 7: are these college educated white women because they have problems

776
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Speaker 7: with relationships and they're problems with men, and so Trump

777
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 7: is an alpha male, so of course they would have

778
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Speaker 7: problems with him.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about your your book Lions and Tigers and Terrorists,

780
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Speaker 1: so mine.

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Speaker 7: How to Protect your Child in a Time of Terror

782
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Speaker 7: as the subtitle and it is it is the first

783
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Speaker 7: half of it is for parents and teachers, and the

784
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Speaker 7: second half is a picture book for kids. And so

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Speaker 7: in the part for grown ups, it tells them how

786
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Speaker 7: to talk to their kids about terrorism, how to recognize

787
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Speaker 7: symptoms that their kids are worried about terrorism, and so on,

788
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Speaker 7: how to answer their most like asked questions. And my

789
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Speaker 7: favorite part is the part the picture book for kids,

790
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Speaker 7: the second half, because it tells them all the things

791
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 7: that they need to know about terrorism without scaring them.

792
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 7: But it has all you know, why to terrorists. I

793
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Speaker 7: talked about what's the terrorists? I talk about how they're

794
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Speaker 7: like the big bully on the playground. Why do they

795
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Speaker 7: want to kill us? Talk about nine to eleven, talk

796
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Speaker 7: about some of the classic attacks like the one in Paris,

797
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Speaker 7: about the cartoon of Mohammed, the Boston Marathons, all of

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Speaker 7: the different key and then at the end for each

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Speaker 7: of those sections, I have what you can do about it,

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Speaker 7: like how to make yourself more resilient, for the parents,

801
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Speaker 7: what to do to grow more resilient kids, and for

802
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Speaker 7: the kids what they can do for themselves to be

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Speaker 7: able to be tougher or you know, withstand terror attacks. Now,

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Speaker 7: this book came out a few years ago, but with COVID,

805
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Speaker 7: we haven't had a continuation of a lot of terror

806
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Speaker 7: attacks because people weren't in out in the streets as much,

807
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Speaker 7: weren't out in concerts as much. But the way society

808
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Speaker 7: is going, especially we're on the edge of war with Iran,

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Speaker 7: you know this is going to be more. There are

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Speaker 7: going to be more attacks, and I mean we have

811
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Speaker 7: more to worry about today than we did before nine

812
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Speaker 7: to eleven. And not just the people flying in in planes.

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Speaker 7: It's more about people who are already in America who

814
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Speaker 7: are terrorists and just waiting for the wolf whistle.

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Speaker 1: She's the terrorist therapist and if you're a if you're

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Speaker 1: a terrorist, I hope you got something out of this tonight, doctor,

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Speaker 1: doctor Carol Lieberman thank you again so much. Appreciate your time.

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Speaker 6: You're very welcome.

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Speaker 7: You have always my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Back in a moment on the Nightcap on seven hundred

821
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Speaker 1: wlw or, we have none other than Pastor Mark built

822
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Speaker 1: El should I have ministries in Washington State and the

823
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Speaker 1: author of America at War twenty four, twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: through twenty twenty six and now he says through twenty

825
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Speaker 1: twenty seven. Also a new book called The Final Tyrant

826
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Speaker 1: is going to be coming out. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But Pastor Bilts, welcome back to the show.

828
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Speaker 1: It's great to have you on again.

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Speaker 3: Oh great, it's always great to be on this show.

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Speaker 1: All right, fantastic. Let's get right down to the brass tacks.

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Speaker 1: Everything that's been going on in Iran is part of

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Speaker 1: this season of war you call it. That's biblically prophesied

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Speaker 1: and it's not so much about diplomacy. You say, as well,

834
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Speaker 1: how did how did your research for America at War

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Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty twenty six point two Iran or

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Speaker 1: Iran as a central flashpoint for global conflict? Does how's

837
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Speaker 1: Iran factor in there?

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Speaker 5: It is amazing, It is totally amazing. And I got

839
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Speaker 5: this from the Book of Daniel chapter ten. In Daniel

840
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Speaker 5: chapter ten, Daniel is fasting for three weeks, and then

841
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Speaker 5: three weeks later this aintel appears and says, I've been

842
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Speaker 5: trying to get to you, but I've been.

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Speaker 3: Battling I ran or Persia for the last three weeks.

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Speaker 5: Well, that happened when you read that chapter in the

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Speaker 5: all month of April.

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Speaker 3: And that is why before I even wrote the book, and.

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Speaker 5: I'm the only one who has this in writing proof.

848
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Speaker 5: When I wrote the book at twenty twenty three, I said,

849
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Speaker 5: I ran, for the first time, what attack Israel this

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Speaker 5: coming April?

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened. But it's all in the Bible,

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Speaker 3: it really is.

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Speaker 5: And what's amazing is this coming Wednesday, two days from now,

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Speaker 5: and Zachariah is the day the red horse of revelation rides. Now,

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's going to be this year, but

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Speaker 5: as you very well know, right now, they're talking about

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Speaker 5: going to war with Iran, and if something happens this Wednesday,

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Speaker 5: that'll definitely be an eye opener.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So if some kind of kinetic military activity occurs

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Speaker 1: this week on Wednesday, with the United States involved or

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Speaker 1: Israel involved against Iran. You say, it's another precursor and

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Speaker 1: you heard it here first, folks, that's right. What biblical

863
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Speaker 1: signs indicate that the current tensions with Iran are part

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Speaker 1: of the larger season of war?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 5: And not too long from now is the festival of

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Speaker 5: Perham on the biblical calendar, which is about the Book

868
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Speaker 5: of Esther, which is all about Hayman and Amalk wanting

869
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 5: to kill all the Jews. Well, it so happens this

870
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 5: coming total lunar eclipse falls all that very day, and

871
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 5: according to the Bible, the lunar eclipses refer to war

872
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 5: for Israel, solar eclipses.

873
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: To war with the nations, and so on.

874
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 5: Top of all of this, here in just a few

875
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 5: weeks we have the total looter eclipse on Permon.

876
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: Wow, how do you interpret stuff that's going on, maybe

877
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: politically to most people in the news, with the prophetic

878
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: contests like the recent State Department travel warnings for Americans

879
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: in Iran, how does that fit into the prophetic context

880
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: of what you've been reading and studying.

881
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 3: Well?

882
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean Matthew twenty four talks about nation will

883
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 5: rise against nation, and even ethnic group will rise against

884
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 5: ethnic group, and we're seeing that right now as well.

885
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 5: But along with that line, look at the economy, the economy.

886
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 5: Our dollar is totally worthless, and I see our economy

887
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 5: crashing by the end of this year as well.

888
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: The dollar is going to be toasted.

889
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: You think our economy is crashing. All the economists and

890
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: people with the Trump administration say that twenty twenty six

891
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: is going to be the boom.

892
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 5: Well, as you know, get along of this, we are

893
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 5: like thirty eight trillion dollars into debt. I do know

894
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 5: that one million seconds is only twelve days, one billion

895
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 5: seconds is thirty two years, but one one trillion seconds

896
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 5: is thirty two thousand years. Now you take thirty two

897
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 5: thousand years times thirty eight.

898
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: That tells you. And that's just the US debt. The

899
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 3: global debt is over one hundred trillion dollars.

900
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 5: All the economies are going to be coming down very soon.

901
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: You kind of mentioned writing in twenty twenty three the

902
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: events that are unfolding, or you say unfolding right now

903
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. What other patterns did you observe

904
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: years ago that suggests the current escalation with Iran is

905
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: consistent with the warnings that you've put out.

906
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 5: Oh great questions. Here's what's amazing. It also has to

907
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 5: do with eclipses. In Genesis one fourteen, God that he

908
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 5: created the sun and the mood for science. Well, only

909
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 5: find that refers to is eclipses. But it's not based

910
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 5: on the Gregorian calendar. It is not based on the

911
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 5: Islamic or the Chinese. It's on its calendar. And I'm

912
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 5: the only one who noticed this pattern where there were

913
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 5: these four total lunar eclipses and solar eclipses right after

914
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 5: Israel became a nation in nineteen forty eight. It happened

915
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 5: again when they captured Jerusalem in nineteen sixty seven, and

916
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 5: then in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.

917
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: That happened again.

918
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 5: And what we find you're probably familiar with the nineteen

919
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 5: seventy three jung Kapur war.

920
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: Well, so happens that was the first.

921
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 5: Day, the first day of the year of you believe,

922
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 5: and the very last day of that year you Believed,

923
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 5: fifty years later was October seventh, when Israel was attacked.

924
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 3: So the whole fifty year spread.

925
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 5: Began war with Israel on the year of Jubilee and

926
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 5: war with Is'e on the last day of the year

927
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 5: of Jubilee. There's all of these patterns, and I'm seeing

928
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: patterns coming up over the next few years that show

929
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 5: the same thing.

930
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: The negotiations just in the last week in Oman trying

931
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: to come up with some answer for a ran in

932
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: the nuclear program. How does that nuclear program fit in

933
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: to the biblical framework that you outlined in America at War?

934
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 5: Well, I really believe that we're going to see some

935
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 5: major war take place. The big problem right now is

936
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 5: Cutter Cutter is totally pro harmas finances some Moss, and

937
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 5: here the United States wants both Turkey and Moss to

938
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 5: have so called peacekeeper. But what most people don't know

939
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 5: is in Zechariah won it talks about the last days

940
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 5: and the red horse of war writing and at the

941
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 5: very end of that chatter, it talks about these four horns,

942
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 5: which sole purpose is to divide the land of Israel.

943
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 5: I believe that is the quartet in two thousand and

944
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 5: one that was solely created to divide the.

945
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: Land of Israel.

946
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: And they're made up of the EU, the US, Okay, Russia,

947
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 3: and the UN.

948
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 5: And so what's going to happen is then God says,

949
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 5: and then is zach Rai. He's sending these four angels

950
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 5: that are going to terrorize the four entities that have

951
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 5: been trying to divide the land of Israel. Well, that's

952
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 5: what this year is all about. Is they're going to

953
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 5: be about trying to find peace in the Middle East.

954
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 5: They're going to do it by trying to divide the

955
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 5: land of Israel. And that's where all wars are going

956
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 5: to break out. Well, I mean, and terrorism.

957
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: As long as we have a president in office right

958
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: now who's very pro Israel and who is not in

959
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form ready to tell them that

960
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: there has to be a division within the country of Israel.

961
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Donald Trump has been pretty clear. Donald Trump

962
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: was the guy that moved the embassy to Jerusalem after

963
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, four presidents who had the chance to do

964
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: it shied away from it. So it seems like President Trump,

965
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: as long as he's in office, he seems like he's

966
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: fairly pro Israel and not into dividing it up.

967
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 5: Well, get a load of this. This is going to

968
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 5: be some shock and awe. Most people don't realize. But

969
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 5: Keith Solomon was actually a type of Antichrist he had

970
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 5: all this peace, and what did he do? He tried

971
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 5: to give away twenty cities in the Galilee. Who does

972
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: he think he is he can give away.

973
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: The promised lamp.

974
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 5: I mean, Solomon is supposed to be this revered king

975
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 5: in everyone's mind today. He brought peace, but all of

976
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 5: his peace agreements were unbiblical. God said you're not to

977
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 5: make covenants with other nations, not to marry other nations wives. Okay,

978
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 5: Solomon was one of the most god people of all

979
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 5: the kings, and that is also in another one of

980
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 5: my books. It's it's really a shocking, But people don't

981
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 5: realize Solomon was one of the worst kings, which is

982
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 5: why Israel king divided.

983
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 3: After he died.

984
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: So you're you're equating Donald Trump with King Solomon.

985
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm not.

986
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 5: Well, I'm saying he could be. We'll have to watch

987
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 5: and see if he tries to divide the land. He is,

988
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 5: but you know who knew that Solomon was going to

989
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 5: do that? So I just keep I don't I'm not

990
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 5: pro anybody.

991
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 4: I'm just pro Bible.

992
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 3: Uh. And I questioned everybody's commotives.

993
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 5: Personally, I believe every president, prime minister is the narcissistant

994
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 5: chief and they wouldn't have gotten that way.

995
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: You have to be to put yourself, you know, whether

996
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: you're coming down a golden escalator or or whatever.

997
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I trust no politicians are there?

998
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: Are there any other specific events you can pick out

999
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: in the Middle East that confirm the season of conflict

1000
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: you've predicted with the Feast of pur Arm and all

1001
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: the rest.

1002
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 5: Well as all patterns. Just like when the police are

1003
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 5: trying to find somebody, they look for patterns, And for me,

1004
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 5: I'm like a God tracker. I want to track everything.

1005
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 5: You know, is this a random event or is this

1006
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 5: a God event? But the biggest thing where many Christians

1007
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 5: are confused and in the dark is they don't know

1008
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 5: God's calendar. Now in many people are aware of Daniel's

1009
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 5: seventy weeks. You've probably heard of that, and the last

1010
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 5: week is the seven year tribulation.

1011
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: You might be familiar with that, But people don't know

1012
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 3: Daniel was Jewish.

1013
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 5: For Heaven's sake, those seventy weeks are Smita weeks, which

1014
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 5: consists of seven year segments. Was that means that last

1015
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 5: seven year segment of the tribulation can only begin the

1016
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 5: beginning of a Shmiita week. People don't know where we

1017
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 5: are in a Shmida cycle.

1018
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: And it's simple. If the Hebrew year is divisible.

1019
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 5: By seven, it's facially to year of this Shmita week.

1020
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 5: If it's divisible by forty.

1021
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: Nine, the following year is that you believe year.

1022
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 5: Well, guess what that means.

1023
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 3: The tribulation can only start the beginning of a Shmita week. Now,

1024
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: the next meter week begins in.

1025
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 5: Like four years, the fall of twenty twenty nine. So

1026
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 5: that means the potential of the tribulation beginning is the

1027
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 5: fall of twenty twenty nine. If it doesn't begin, then

1028
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 5: it cannot begin for seven more years, the fall of

1029
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 5: twenty thirty six. So I see the potential reality of

1030
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 5: the tribulation beginning the fall of twenty twenty nine very real,

1031
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 5: and we're about to see chaos break loose on the planet.

1032
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 5: But it's all knowing God's calendar and his patterns.

1033
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: How can Americans and other people around the world understand

1034
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: everything that's going on but not panic and have awareness

1035
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: of their spiritual significance.

1036
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 5: Well, that is such a great question, you know. For me,

1037
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 5: it really comes down to trust in God. I've almost

1038
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 5: died about eight times. I've literally had guns at my

1039
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 5: head and the people is telling me they're going to

1040
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 5: blow my head off, and I'm still here. I was

1041
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 5: almost eaten by lions a few years ago in South Africa,

1042
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 5: major car accidents, major medical malpractice, and I just know

1043
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 5: the Bible says all of our days are numbered.

1044
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 3: So for me, if it's not my time, it's not

1045
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 3: going to happen. And if it is, there's nothing I

1046
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 3: can do about it.

1047
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 5: So my goal has just been you know, I'm not

1048
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 5: here on this planet for me. I'm here on this

1049
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 5: planet to build God's keep them. And my prayer is God,

1050
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 5: don't take me out and tell my missions accomplished.

1051
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 6: And I just live that way.

1052
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: So you think you got more to do good? Aund exactly? Exactly?

1053
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: What about even more broadly implicated lessons about global instability

1054
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: and prophecy uh and and how journalist, mainstream media and

1055
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: policymakers miss when focusing just solely on on the headlines

1056
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: of the day. What are they missing? And what is

1057
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio missing?

1058
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 3: What is uh?

1059
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: You know, anybody who's involved in mainstream media missing and

1060
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: reporting on these stories?

1061
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 5: Mark, I think the main thing they're missing is the

1062
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 5: fact her Moos wants to slaughter all the Jews. They

1063
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 5: do not want a two state solution. Our State Department

1064
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 5: has been so fool as thinking they can support Hamas

1065
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 5: or the PLO and running Gaza. There's seeking a peace

1066
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 5: with waking God and we're never going to have peace

1067
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 5: unless we do what God says. And as long as

1068
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 5: they treat this, you know, if they want the you know,

1069
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 5: the big Peace Award, will guess what they can't achieve.

1070
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: It, you know, on biblically.

1071
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 5: But that's what the State Department, everybody's missing is the

1072
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 5: fact that Hamas is a terrorist group.

1073
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: All we want to do is kill Jews.

1074
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 5: How do you make peaceless someone who comes into your

1075
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 5: house and puts to your kids and says, I'm going

1076
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 5: to stay in this bedroom and you'll have peace.

1077
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 4: Hurt.

1078
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: No, No, that's not gonna work. That's not gonna fly

1079
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: with me, that's for sure. The new book, The Final Tyrant,

1080
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: tell me about that, just real quickly.

1081
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 3: Joe The Final Tyrant.

1082
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 5: Basically, most Christians are deceived because they think the Antichrist

1083
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 5: is going to be a Muslim or a Jew. He's

1084
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 5: going to be a Christian.

1085
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 3: The Antichrist is going to be a professing Christian.

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Speaker 5: You wouldn't be fool Gary, if someone can I depart

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Speaker 5: off one hundred dollars bill if it had the Iotolus

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Speaker 5: face on it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, it's the same thing.

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Speaker 5: There's supposed to be a great deception, and the great

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Speaker 5: deception is going to be the fact that the Antichrist

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Speaker 5: is going to be a professing believer. That's one of

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01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 5: the main things. And I go in, I talk about

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01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 5: Stalin being a type of Antichrist.

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Speaker 3: I talk about replacement theology, how the church's focus has.

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 5: Been totally wrong, just like we know with Copernicus, everyone

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01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 5: thought that the Earth was the center of the universe.

1098
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 5: And he goes, I'm sorry, you know the sun is Well,

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01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 5: it's the same thing. The Church thinks they're the center

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Speaker 5: of the theological universe and they're not.

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Speaker 1: Israel Is Yeah, that's amazing. Well, I always am interested

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Speaker 1: to hear what you have to say. We'll watch Wednesday,

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01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and to see what happens on Wednesday. You

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01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: think the horseman's going to ride on Wednesday?

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01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 5: Pastor, I give it a high percentage, But if it doesn't,

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01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 5: look for next year.

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Speaker 3: All that day.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 5: I believe all the prophecies in the Bible of visions

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01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 5: and things happen on the very day some year later.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I definitely will be following up with

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: you and we'll see, we'll see what the report card reads.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, if the war breaks out, you'll have to

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01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 3: call you back.

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Speaker 1: All right, doctor Our pastor Mark builds from Elshadai Ministries

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Speaker 1: E s M is the designation there if you want

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01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: to get in touch with them, and watch for his

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01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: books America at War. It's out now twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty six and also new the Final Tyrant.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Food for thought, guys, eat as much as you'd like.

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Speaker 1: The Nightcap continues well, most offen he handsome goo. I

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01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: don't know if he's got any gou tonight, but I'm

1124
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: sure if he does, he'll be he'll be fine to

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01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: tell us about it. He's very open about his gou

1126
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: and his his release of thereof. But coming on the

1127
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: heels of Super Bowl sixty, which was just, oh my gosh,

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01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: how boring can a game get? That's what I want

1129
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: to know. The One and Only Sports Commando is back

1130
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: that that that game last night, wild Man was enough

1131
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: to put you back up on a billboard.

1132
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 4: I don't have too. I have a little case of

1133
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 4: the gou But I'm really really excited today because Red's

1134
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 4: pitchers and catchers reported that's right. So could you hear Arizona?

1135
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 4: And before we know it, we'll be playing baseball.

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like, I don't know, forty four, forty

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01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: five days away from opening day at this point as

1138
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: we were talking tonight. And the only thing that really

1139
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: really kind of goads me about that is that they'll

1140
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: take away most of my Monday and Tuesday nights for

1141
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: the whole spring and summer. I'm gonna be out of

1142
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out either the I'm gonna be out

1143
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: of workwhile man, you're going to be out of a

1144
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: platform to spew whatever goo you've got. So you know,

1145
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: the bad comes with the good always. You know, there's

1146
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: always a UNI hag. So uh but yeah, pitchers and catchers,

1147
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: position players. I guess next week isn't Yes?

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01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 4: Next next Monday? Yes, yes, And before you know it,

1149
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 4: first full squad workout us next Monday.

1150
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And before you know it, they'll they'll be having

1151
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: spring training games. And oh yeah, which may or may

1152
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: not tell us anything. Usually, you know, outside of people

1153
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: getting injured, they really don't detail much of how the

1154
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: season's gonna go the preseason, right, But.

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Speaker 4: It's nice just to be able to watch it, you know.

1156
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 4: And I know, I mean which good Year was closer?

1157
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 4: I wish they were still in Sarasota then I could

1158
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 4: make the drive. But the average red span does not

1159
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 4: go out to good Year, Arizona. I'm you've got to

1160
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 4: be making pretty good money to make a trip out there,

1161
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 4: because you know, you gotta fly, you got to rent

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01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 4: a car, you got to get a hotel. I mean

1163
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 4: it call it casts them jack to get out there.

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01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you had to do all of those

1165
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: things for Florida. You just didn't necessarily have to fly.

1166
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: You could drive down like twelve hours or ten hours

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01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: and be there. Uh so if you and if you

1168
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: did drive down, that precludes you having to rent a car.

1169
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: Once you get there, you just got to find a

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01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: place to stay. Yeah, And Zarasota was a real city

1171
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: where Goodyear is like a suburb out in the middle

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: of the nowhere and there's nothing to do in Goodyear zero.

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01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 3: There's nothing.

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01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 4: It's it's all a bunch of stript centers. You have

1175
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 4: to go into Phoenix, you know, to find some action. Well,

1176
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 4: and what kind of action are you looking.

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Speaker 1: For, wild man?

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01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 4: Like maybe a casino maybe, you know, uh huh, or

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01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you know of course that the

1180
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 4: Suns play basketball, but that really there's not there's own

1181
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 4: night night, night life whatsoever in good Year. Come on, man,

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01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:00,879
Speaker 4: there's Goodyear.

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01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,839
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm a person who's so far removed

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01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: from night life. If there was no place to go

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01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: ever again in my life, I'd be fine. I'm not

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01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: a creature of the night like you are.

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I look, you know there was a

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01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 4: club where they were playing some you know, some bands

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Speaker 4: were playing. There's nothing like that in Goodyear. There's some

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01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 4: acoustic acts and stuff like that. But you know, come on,

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01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 4: there's not much to do in Goodyear. There really isn't.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of clubs where bands played and you used to

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Speaker 1: hang all the time, is there one particular show at

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01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: Annie's that you saw was your favorite of all time?

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Speaker 1: Could you pick one?

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Speaker 4: Well, you were there all the time. I'm glad you

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01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 4: brought that up. Any time since the rock Legends played,

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 4: Prisoner played whenever Prisoner played it was you. They never

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Speaker 4: put on a bad show and the place was always

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01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 4: packed and stacked. And in fact, next week, the fifteenth,

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01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 4: they will be the feature act as part of an

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 4: Autism Rock fifteen. They're reuniting for one more show and

1203
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 4: I'm telling you Gary Jeff, it will be asses to

1204
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 4: elbows for this show because everybody's been clamoring for Tim

1205
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 4: and Greg and Steven and Brian to get back one

1206
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 4: more time because they we're going to do it a

1207
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 4: couple of years ago, but they're going to reunite one

1208
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 4: more time and it's going to be crazy. We got

1209
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 4: dej'lvou thirteen thirty, Dangerous Jim and the Slims and the

1210
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 4: Cincia Rock Legends. Prisoner I think at four o'clock next

1211
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 4: Sunday at fred Board Brewery for Autisam Rocks fifteen. Yeah,

1212
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 4: the Prisoner are always a great show and going to

1213
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 4: see Uh there was a band called Oh Now It

1214
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 4: make Escapes Me. Man, I'm getting old. I can't think

1215
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 4: of it now. I think we get done talking, but

1216
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 4: just say Prisoner because it was always always packed and stacked.

1217
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Speaker 4: Now let's get through the super Bowl, man.

1218
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: All right, Let's get through it. I just I mean,

1219
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate the defense that Seattle put on that the

1220
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, the doom defense and all of that. I

1221
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: can't appreciate that as a fan, but my god, I

1222
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: just wanted a sign of life, you know, I wanted

1223
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: proof of life from the Patriots, and I never feel

1224
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: like I really even got it once, not at all.

1225
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 4: I mean it was it was a boring game. I mean,

1226
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 4: in the first half they were shut out, and I

1227
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 4: believe I saw a stat that said any team that

1228
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 4: was ever shut out in the first half or zero

1229
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 4: to fifteen, give it to the Seattle Seahawks, Gary Jeff.

1230
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 4: They you know, they deserve to win. I mean, the

1231
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 4: defense had six sacks, I had three picks. The punter.

1232
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 4: The punter, I mean, an unsung hero. He been the

1233
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 4: Patriots back how many times down there, like on the four,

1234
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 4: the three, the two yard line. And of course you

1235
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 4: pointed out when we talked last week about Kenneth Walker

1236
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 4: the third that he could possibly be an impact player,

1237
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 4: and he proved to be that one hundred and thirty

1238
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 4: five yards rushing and he was the MVP, the first MVP.

1239
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 4: He says Terrell Davis back in who knows when to

1240
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 4: be walk up with MVP. Give it to Seattle. They

1241
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 4: deserve to win. The Patriots. The Patriots had a couple opportunities.

1242
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 4: Greg may was was was off yesterday. Now I just

1243
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,839
Speaker 4: read something where he had taken an injection in his shoulder,

1244
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 4: so maybe that affected it. But they could He had

1245
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 4: no running game, Gary, Jeff.

1246
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: Not zero, no, And if you can't run the ball,

1247
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: you can't pass the ball. It just it's snowballs, wild Man,

1248
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: is what happens. And I said Walker was going to

1249
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: be the factor this past Saturday on the show with Mo,

1250
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: I reiterated what you and I had kind of talked about,

1251
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: and I said, Walker third is just Walker the third

1252
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: is just the few times I've seen him play, he's

1253
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: always impressed me. And uh, and I was, I was right,

1254
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: You were right, We were right wild Man, for once

1255
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: in our lives, right, we were right? Well yes, yeah, yeah,

1256
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: because it wasn't. It wasn't Sam Darnold. I mean, he

1257
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: played well enough to win, I'll give him that, but

1258
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't. You know, Cooper Cup made some

1259
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: really impressive catches.

1260
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, old man, old Man River, Cooper Cup.

1261
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah he did.

1262
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: But it was.

1263
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:22,919
Speaker 1: The story was was Walker all my offensively for Seattle

1264
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: defensively because.

1265
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 4: He helped he upset up, He helped set up a

1266
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 4: number of a number of the field goals and Gary

1267
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 4: Jeb now that this is over, we must focus our

1268
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 4: attention on the uh free agency coming up here in March,

1269
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 4: and Uh, I've got to point this out one one

1270
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 4: more time to you. It's it's it's imperative. It's so

1271
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 4: important that the Bengals on day one when they can

1272
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 4: sign free agents, that they signed to free agents that day,

1273
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 4: not wait till Thursday, not wait till Friday, not wait

1274
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 4: till Saturday. They jump in because they've got a list

1275
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 4: of who they want and make and get two guys

1276
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 4: in here right away and send that message to the

1277
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 4: fan that they're serious, that they're serious about winning. We

1278
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 4: need two defensive players who could start. We need two

1279
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 4: defensive players. We don't need any offense, I should say we,

1280
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 4: But the Bengals don't need any offense. Maybe maybe a guard,

1281
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 4: you know, or or left tackle, but they don't need

1282
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 4: any offense. With the Bengals need defense. And they've got

1283
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 4: to sign two players on day one a free agency.

1284
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: They've got to well on offense as far as that goes,

1285
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: you need somebody who's going to provide good protection for

1286
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow first and foremost. I mean agreed, Well.

1287
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got that sort of I mean.

1288
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: They started to figure it out a little bit after

1289
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: he came back. Yeah, but that that's gonna be consistent.

1290
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: But you're right, it's it's on the line where NFL

1291
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,839
Speaker 1: games are won and lost. It depends on who pushes

1292
01:16:55,920 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 1: who around, and the Bengals get pushed around, especially on

1293
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: running defense. They get pushed around, and it's you've got

1294
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: to find a way to stop that. For the Bengals

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Speaker 1: to not have to score forty points a game on

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Speaker 1: offense with all the weapons they've got just to win games.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the schedule is gonna look like,

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01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: but it's it's got to be it's got to be

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Speaker 1: a little bit easier. Uh, but I mean, you never know.

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Speaker 1: Easy schedules haven't really mattered the last couple of years

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01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: for the Bengals because they always lose the teams they

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01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: shouldn't lose to.

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Speaker 4: Oh tell me about it. Yeah, I've seen the teams

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01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 4: that they're going to play. They have they kind of

1305
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 4: get to get a They're not get to get a break.

1306
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 4: But you know, the NFL is all about parody, and

1307
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 4: that's just the way they know. They've drawn it up again.

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01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 4: It starts up front, you know, it always has on

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Speaker 4: both sides of the ball. I mean, the Bengals went

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Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl, you know, both times because they

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01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 4: had a good off some linebacker in the day. They

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01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 4: really did. But you know, of course then they get

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01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 4: pushed around on the defensive side and that's the reason

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Speaker 4: they lost those games.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, have you watched any Winter Olympics, wild man,

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01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: Because I will confess I have. I've seen some curling.

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01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,839
Speaker 1: I tell you what I love is the luge events.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: They are flying down that trail like a bullet. I mean,

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01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: you're laying on your back and you just prayed to

1321
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: God you don't go up and over that rail and

1322
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, wind up in seventeen pieces on the other

1323
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: side of it. But that the Lindsey Vaughan wipeout was just.

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01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 4: Oh, that was awful, you know, and I feel sorry

1325
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 4: for her, but I really don't think she should have

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Speaker 4: After she completed that run, you know, you know, that

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01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,759
Speaker 4: trial run and did well, I think that she should

1328
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 4: have just said, you know, she shouldn't have been out there.

1329
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 4: I mean that was just you know, she was a

1330
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 4: risk and injury and you know, she's had a great career.

1331
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 4: She had nothing to prove. But how you know how

1332
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 4: people you know, these athletes are they think they can

1333
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 4: you know, keep going and keep going. And she wiped out,

1334
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 4: you know, so she most wiped out coming out of

1335
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 4: the gate. That was the scary thing. But I want

1336
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 4: to as you mentioned the Olympics, and I haven't watched much.

1337
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 4: I'll be watching the men's hockey, the women's hockey. I

1338
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 4: fall asleep. I'm not watching that. But I've got to.

1339
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 4: I've got to talk about the two Olympic freestyle skiers

1340
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 4: who decided to talk about immigration and ice and there's

1341
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 4: no need for that kind of crap at the Olympics,

1342
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,759
Speaker 4: and those reporters should have been thrown out the Olympic committee.

1343
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 4: How to make a you know what, You're not asking

1344
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 4: those kinds of questions here, you know, it's all the ones.

1345
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: Who took the bait and answered that they weren't offering

1346
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: that on their own. It was the reporters asking the questions,

1347
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: are are you embarrassed. Are you not proud about your country?

1348
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: And the one kid said, no, I I'm competing for

1349
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: for my myself and my friends. I'm not competing for

1350
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: the United States. But the reporters, you're right, number one,

1351
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 1: key mainstream media reporters trying to interject politics into this

1352
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: event that is supposed to supersede politics. Absolutely ridiculous, ridiculous.

1353
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 4: It is ridiculous, and the Olympic Committee should do something

1354
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 4: about that. And of course that's just no, there's just

1355
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 4: no need. And it's funny that, you know, we get

1356
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 4: two guys. Ime, There's been a couple other player people

1357
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 4: too that have spoken out. But you don't hear any

1358
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 4: of the other countries say anything bad about their country.

1359
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 4: Do you know why? Because by the time they when

1360
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 4: they get back there, they're.

1361
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Speaker 3: Being jail.

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01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Japan, for example, that is absolutely competing

1363
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: in this Olympics. Japan is one of the most closed

1364
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: societies as far as border restrictions and everything else that

1365
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 1: is being complained about in the US. These countries that

1366
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 1: they're competing against, I mean, have more draconian border straight

1367
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 1: in many cases, not the europe, not the Western not

1368
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: the Western European but uh, you know, the Western European

1369
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: countries have let their countries completely go to seed as

1370
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: far as very immigration policy, and we're trying to keep

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01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: that from happening in our country. So, you know what,

1372
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: just stay out of our business and let the athletes

1373
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: be athletes and not political commentation more.

1374
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Speaker 4: You know those two free skeeters who rebelly aging, they

1375
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 4: needed an ID Gary. You have to get in Italy duh.

1376
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 4: They get in there.

1377
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: You had to have a passport. Uh, yeah, absolutely, And

1378
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 1: that's that's lost on people who just have a narrative

1379
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 1: that they're gonna they're stupid, they're gonna stick to no

1380
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: matter what because it's an ideological thing. It's almost like

1381
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: a religion with them.

1382
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they're yeah, they're just they're so burnt out

1383
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 4: on their brains are fried. Absolutely So.

1384
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, so the men's ice hockey you're looking forward to.

1385
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't watch something. I watch some of

1386
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 4: the Lose and I watch some of the Bob Sled.

1387
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 4: You know, now the football is out of the way.

1388
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 4: I mean I have to watch something. I mean, uh,

1389
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 4: you know, I definitely want to be checking that out.

1390
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: What about the men's freestyle figure skating wild man, I

1391
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: have no desire to.

1392
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 4: I mean that those they're they're they're brilliant people. You know,

1393
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 4: those people are those are athletes to be able to

1394
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 4: do what they do, especially on the women's side too.

1395
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 4: My god, I can't imagine doing how they do that

1396
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But I don't know much time we

1397
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 4: got left. I want to talk about Rick Patino real quick,

1398
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 4: all right, win number nine oh two. He's now served

1399
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 4: on the old time list. Carry Jeff. This really gives

1400
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 4: me the case of the go. You see, had not

1401
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 4: won but two chances to hire Rick Patino as their

1402
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 4: head coach. When he was in Greece and did really well,

1403
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 4: and then I had a chance to hire him. And

1404
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 4: then when he went to Iona and they had a

1405
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 4: chance to hire him, and Rick Petit they had a

1406
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 4: chance off. Why would you not give Rick Bettino a chance?

1407
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 4: I don't understand why you've seen never made the effort.

1408
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: I have no words for you a while, man, because

1409
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even Number one, I didn't know that, and

1410
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: number two I can't explain it because it's inexplicable. I mean,

1411
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: is Nancy is Nancy's infra back as president? I mean,

1412
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: what's going on here. It's for that blot and a bottle.

1413
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 6: No, No, she's not.

1414
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 4: She's not back as president. And I think she finally

1415
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 4: retired him, that she went up and screwed up the

1416
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 4: whole program. I think it was it Boston University. They

1417
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 4: had a big scandal up there when she got up

1418
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 4: there too.

1419
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, she's just there to stir things up and

1420
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: cause trouble, upset the status quo, whatever that happens to

1421
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: be at any given time. What about U see possibly

1422
01:23:55,200 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: bringing back Andy Kennedy. I haven't heard that, you know,

1423
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: let's start the rumor.

1424
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 3: Now.

1425
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 4: He was a decent coach. I really liked him. I

1426
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 4: don't know where he's at.

1427
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: Uh, last time I saw me was at UAB University

1428
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: of Alabama, Birmingham.

1429
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, because zim Zimper really screwed him over by by

1430
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 4: screwing up by by screwing up the recruiting process and everything.

1431
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 4: But how about the Miami RedHawks now twenty four and

1432
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 4: oh twenty four and oh.

1433
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: Yes, Sir Al Travis Steele did all he had to

1434
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: do was get out of town.

1435
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 4: That's all.

1436
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: That's all he is. That's all all right, wild man? Well, Uh,

1437
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 1: the super Bowl was really boring, and yes it was.

1438
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: We're done talking about it now.

1439
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 4: I was waiting for you to say something about Bad

1440
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 4: Bunny because I Shriselle didn't watch it. In the super

1441
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 4: Bowl party that we were at, they didn't watch it.

1442
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 4: They switched over to the other one. And that was

1443
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 4: just as bad Country acts, like who are these guys?

1444
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 4: You know?

1445
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: They were actually fairly talented individuals. I like them all,

1446
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: well they are, but that's not my cup of tea.

1447
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm a wied. I didn't even want to talk about

1448
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: Bad Bunny because Bad Bunny, like all super Bowl halftime shows,

1449
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: is irrelevant in my life. It's not It's not going

1450
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: to change one thing about how I live my life

1451
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: or anything else. Wild Man, thank you very much. My

1452
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: friend will send you time.

1453
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 4: We will talk soon. You got it.