WEBVTT - 12-17-25 Bill Cunningham Show

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<v Speaker 1>Night, Billy Cunningham, the great Americans will welcome this Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>afteroon in the tri State. A little bit mild and

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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot of rain later on. Plus we

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled twelve thirty five today Joe Deaters will be here

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio with Mark Petemeyer to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>dismissal of charges against Elwood Jones and how unjust that is.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's down the road. Jonan, you and I now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, as Senator John Eustad, he is the junior

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<v Speaker 1>Senator from the state of Ohio, and he'll be in

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<v Speaker 1>the chamber tonight. Maybe he'll be somewhere listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>President's State of the State of the Economy address at

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<v Speaker 1>nine o'clock out of the Oval Office. And John Eustaed, Senator,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome again to the Bill Cunningham showing first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>tonight the President is going to address the nation from

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<v Speaker 1>the I think from the Oval Office about nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>when we carry it live. What would you like the

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<v Speaker 1>President to say about the state of things the economy, Venezuela,

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of living, medicaid, fraud, immigration, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want the President to say tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I want him to lay it all out. As

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned, there's let's talk about where it was when

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<v Speaker 3>he took over. The inflation rate under Joe Biden was

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<v Speaker 3>epically high, the highest in the twenty first century. That

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<v Speaker 3>we've lowered it, and that we've were doing three things

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<v Speaker 3>to help people. We're helping them earn more. We're helping

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<v Speaker 3>them keep more of what they earn, working class tax

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<v Speaker 3>family or working family tax cut. And then we're helping

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<v Speaker 3>to lower prices. What have we done more jobs, more

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<v Speaker 3>private sector jobs, and higher earning. That's good. Tax cuts

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<v Speaker 3>for the middle class, no tax on tips, no tax

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<v Speaker 3>on overtime, no tax on social Security benefits, on for

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<v Speaker 3>new for certain individuals, and child tax credits to help them,

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<v Speaker 3>help those, help those families, the ones with little ones,

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<v Speaker 3>help twenty two hundred dollars per family per child, help

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<v Speaker 3>them pay for childcare, other things like that. So we

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<v Speaker 3>help people keep more of what they earn. And then lastly,

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<v Speaker 3>what we've done to attack the administrative state and the

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<v Speaker 3>Green New Deal, lower gas prices. We're doing a lot

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<v Speaker 3>on that front. You know, food like eggs and things

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<v Speaker 3>like that they've dropped, but that we have more work

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<v Speaker 3>to do, particularly in areas like healthcare where Obamacare is failing,

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<v Speaker 3>us opportunities to do more with regulatory reforms. So that

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<v Speaker 3>makes it easier for people to build things like roads

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<v Speaker 3>and bridges and buildings and things like that without all

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<v Speaker 3>of the the additional cost of regulation. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's you want them to lay that out. I also

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<v Speaker 3>want them to you know, I hope if he talks

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<v Speaker 3>about Venezuela, he talks about the fact that these were

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<v Speaker 3>well planned, well executed strikes. They're legal, and we're taking

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<v Speaker 3>out narco terraces and they can't even find narco terrorist

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<v Speaker 3>who are willing to drive the boats anymore. They haven't

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<v Speaker 3>had to blow anybody up down there for over four weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Because these people will not stop. They will stop poisoning

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<v Speaker 3>American citizens. More people have died of overdoses and they

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<v Speaker 3>in the Vietnam War. We should treat those narker terroists

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<v Speaker 3>like the enemies that they are of the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>Centator John Newstead, the average American female, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's two genders. I'm not sure there's one hundred and five,

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<v Speaker 1>but women have babies and men do not, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now we're producing about one point six million,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, one point six babies per couple, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a failing population. Donald Trump wants something called the Trump account,

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<v Speaker 1>in which one of a child is a baby is

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<v Speaker 1>born if they live in a Republican area and the

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<v Speaker 1>baby makes it out of the womb alive. If the

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<v Speaker 1>baby is born, the baby has one thousand dollars deposited

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<v Speaker 1>in their account, and then the money grows I think

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<v Speaker 1>through the stock market over the next twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you explain what the Trump account is.

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<v Speaker 1>My producer Tony Bender's thinking about having more babies because

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to get a thousand dollars and the baby's account.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain to Tony Bender, whose wife is very fertile, that

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when you have a baby today because of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you for helping to support the population, Tony,

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<v Speaker 3>and you and your wife. So this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll get a thousand dollars and deposited into the account,

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<v Speaker 3>and with what Michael Dell's promised, every low income child's

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<v Speaker 3>going to get two hundred and fifty dollars more. And

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<v Speaker 3>then you can continue to save for that to pay

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<v Speaker 3>for their education and whatever you want to do. It's

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<v Speaker 3>really helping. I thought it was a good idea in

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning, But what I really love about the Idea

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<v Speaker 3>Bill is that it's going to teach a whole generation

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<v Speaker 3>of children about saving and what happens when you save,

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<v Speaker 3>and how interest your cruse and how you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>really helping not only to provide a tangible benefit through

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<v Speaker 3>these Trump accounts, which we hope more people will contribute to,

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<v Speaker 3>and by the way, I hope employers will say to

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<v Speaker 3>their new employee, to their employees, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>contribute everywhere additional into these accounts. So I hope that

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<v Speaker 3>really takes off, that we start to think ahead, we

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<v Speaker 3>start to save, we start to plan, we start to

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<v Speaker 3>do all those things. And I want you to just

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<v Speaker 3>one last thought. If you took a newborn and you

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<v Speaker 3>put a thousand dollar dollars a year in their account

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<v Speaker 3>until they're eighteen years old, and you put no more

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<v Speaker 3>into it by the time they retired when they were

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<v Speaker 3>sixty seven, and it earned an interest rate of seven percent,

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<v Speaker 3>it would be it would be worth over a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>So these are the things that we're teaching young people

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<v Speaker 3>through these Trump accounts. It's a tangible benefit, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>also I think helps change our culture to think more

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<v Speaker 3>about long term planning and savings.

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<v Speaker 2>That's such a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>This morning, I'm trying to watch MS now, which I

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<v Speaker 1>do so you don't have to. They spent about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds on the Trump accounts, which is a great idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be implemented. That's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they went back, of course, as Susie Wiles

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<v Speaker 1>and the stupidity she had and giving an interview to

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<v Speaker 1>the Vanity Fair. They went back to sliming Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that later CDLs. I have friends in

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<v Speaker 1>the trucking business and the number of accidents. We have

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of illegals, many from trucking companies in

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Europe that don't understand that the English can't read

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<v Speaker 1>a sign, and they're driving eighty thousand pound monsters around

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<v Speaker 1>this super slabs. What can you do about the CDL

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<v Speaker 1>crisis the truck and Bozo would love me to bring

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<v Speaker 1>this up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do this on his behalf.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do about the illegals driving trucks handing

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<v Speaker 1>down CDLs by New York and California.

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<v Speaker 2>What about that?

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, that's the fraudulent. I'm going to be on

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<v Speaker 3>some legislation to try to address this, saying that one

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have had a driver's license for one

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<v Speaker 3>year before you even apply for a CDL, and that

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<v Speaker 3>the test can only be given in English. That way because,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, if you're supposed to read road signs,

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<v Speaker 3>those are in English. If you don't understand English, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't read the road signs. Just things like this that

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<v Speaker 3>can help to make sure that we are keeping our

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<v Speaker 3>roads safe and if we get and by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>people who are doing this illegally, not only keep not

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<v Speaker 3>only it's not safe for our roads and everybody who's

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<v Speaker 3>on them, but it's undermining the wages of other truckers,

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<v Speaker 3>the truckers who are doing it the right way, the

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<v Speaker 3>American citizens, the people who have legitimate CDLs. You're under

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<v Speaker 3>mining their wages and their opportunity to work. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>to crack down on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I speak to my friends at Fox News head on

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<v Speaker 1>Maya Cook the other day, and Minneapolis is the headquarters

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<v Speaker 1>of a Somali clan that's looted the treasury for billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars with false claims because of autism, food stamps,

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<v Speaker 1>section eight, all that kind of stuff. And she pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out that in Columbus, Ohio, it's the second largest Somali

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<v Speaker 1>clan in Columbus. And she made the point that in Columbus,

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio, there's looting of the American taxpayer out of

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<v Speaker 1>these so called welfare programs. And so I would ask,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, what percentage of these welfare programs are

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<v Speaker 1>paid by the state, what percentage by the federal government?

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<v Speaker 1>And if true, why isn't Mike DeWine addressed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I see no evidence of her allegations of anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that in Ohio. It's certainly true in Minneapolis. And

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<v Speaker 3>you said, Kim Walls up there wouldn't do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've known about this. The community up in Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 3>threatened to accuse them of racism.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did they do.

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<v Speaker 3>They just backed down and went away and didn't stop

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<v Speaker 3>the fraud, and the and the kids that were supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to get the meals didn't get them, and the and

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<v Speaker 3>the criminals took the money and maybe even funded some

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<v Speaker 3>terrorists organizations that were king into those details.

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<v Speaker 2>But look, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Look every program bill that the federal government runs and

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<v Speaker 3>the rules were set up under Joe Biden. They're getting

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<v Speaker 3>ripped off. For example, these these tax credits for enhanced

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<v Speaker 3>premiums for healthcare. This is what happens. There's zero dollar premiums.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's happening is that unscrupulous insurance brokers signed people

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<v Speaker 3>up to them okay, and and then the money goes

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<v Speaker 3>directly to the insurance company. You as an individual, may

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<v Speaker 3>never know you were signed up because you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to pay any any bill, any any time. The GAO

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<v Speaker 3>has established that at least twenty billion dollars has been

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<v Speaker 3>stolen out of that program. And we ask the Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>simply to say, okay, make every petty pay at least

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<v Speaker 3>five dollars so we know there's a real person and

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<v Speaker 3>we don't get ripped off. And I had a bill

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<v Speaker 3>to do that bill and the Democrats blocked it. They

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<v Speaker 3>blocked it and they don't want us to get it

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<v Speaker 3>solving these fraud problems. And it's you know, I'm all

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<v Speaker 3>for providing services to people are in need. We have

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<v Speaker 3>the Christmas spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a compassionate nation.

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<v Speaker 3>We want people in need to have them, but we

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<v Speaker 3>don't as taxpayers want to be ripped off by people

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<v Speaker 3>who build these programs in a way that this fleecing

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<v Speaker 3>the American taxpayer. And every time you try to put

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<v Speaker 3>something in place like this, the Democrats want to block it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think in Ohio we do a better job

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<v Speaker 3>at it than most states, but the federal rules. This

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the disincentives that occurs if it's completely

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<v Speaker 3>paid for by the federal government. The states have no

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<v Speaker 3>incentive for policing it because it costs them more money

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<v Speaker 3>to police it, So they don't spend as much time

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<v Speaker 3>policing it because they don't pay the consequence. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>something that's very frustrating. I'm trying to change it every

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<v Speaker 3>chance I get.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometime today or tomorrow or maybe next week. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>discharge petition in the House, signed by all the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>and four Republicans to extend the Obamacare subsidies for three

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<v Speaker 1>more years. So keep the fraud, keep funding insurance companies,

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<v Speaker 1>and not healthcare for the next three years. And I

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<v Speaker 1>would assume that'll go nowhere in the Senate. Am I correct?

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<v Speaker 1>And what's your position on Yeah, we've already we've already.

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<v Speaker 3>Had to vote in the Senate and it was defeated

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<v Speaker 3>in the Senate. There's only there's only there's one important

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<v Speaker 3>condition that because look, I'm empathetic to the pastors, to

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<v Speaker 3>small business owners, the farmers, the people like that who

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<v Speaker 3>are trapped. They only have one choice under Obamacare. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one program. You have to sign up for it if

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<v Speaker 3>you want insurance, and it costs too much. It's broken.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to fix it. And I'm willing to support

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<v Speaker 3>subsidies for another couple of years as long as we

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<v Speaker 3>eliminate the fraud, as long as we put income caps

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<v Speaker 3>on it so we're not subsidizing the insurance of millionaires,

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<v Speaker 3>and in the long run, take the money away from

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<v Speaker 3>the insurance companies and send it to the individuals so

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<v Speaker 3>that they can go shop and have more control over

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<v Speaker 3>their own destiny. These are simple reforms that we've asked for,

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<v Speaker 3>the ask from the Democrats in return for supporting the

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<v Speaker 3>enhanced premiums, and they won't do it, and so we're

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<v Speaker 3>to standstill. Although I hope, I hope that we can

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<v Speaker 3>fix this because it's not that individual. It's not the farmer,

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<v Speaker 3>the pastor the small business person's fault that their government

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<v Speaker 3>gave them a crappy healthcare program. It's our responsibility to

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<v Speaker 3>fix it. But the Democrats don't seem to want to

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<v Speaker 3>go along with us and eliminating the fraud and the

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<v Speaker 3>waste that's in the system, because you can't in good

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<v Speaker 3>conscience vote for something that you know has been ripped

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<v Speaker 3>off to the two to twenty billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I know in Obamacare, about five percent of American people

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<v Speaker 1>get their head health care, which they don't get through Obamacare,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's about five or six million people that's completely

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<v Speaker 1>fraudulent and they don't exist, but they continue to actually

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<v Speaker 1>pay the money. And those who do get into the

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<v Speaker 1>system understand that they pay large premiums. The deductibilities are

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<v Speaker 1>five to ten thousand dollars each. In other words, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you have medical care or medical claims, often the

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<v Speaker 1>insurance company will fight you in order not to pay

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<v Speaker 1>your claim. It's completely broken. So when you walk around

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<v Speaker 1>the halls of power they're in Washington. John used that

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of a normal guy from Ohio, and you

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<v Speaker 1>walk around, you run into Chuck Schumer, you might run

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<v Speaker 1>another Democrats like senat raccoons. Do you have private conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about what the hell are you guys doing Why can't

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<v Speaker 1>we have five dollars to determine if it's a real

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<v Speaker 1>person or a bot getting the money? What do they

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, whisper in your ear? Well, the insurance companies

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<v Speaker 1>pay us a lot of money. By the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>insurance companies are the ones who penned Obamacare, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how the Democrats collect the money.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they actually tell you John Used that you're new here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just playing a game to make sure we get

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<v Speaker 2>to like them.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you, well, I can. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 3>this that there are some like Chuck Schumer who would

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<v Speaker 3>rather see the system fail so he can blame Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>than be part of solving the problem. There are others.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a handful of Democrats who recognize that it's a

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<v Speaker 3>real problem and want to join us to fix it,

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<v Speaker 3>but they have a hard time getting around their leader.

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<v Speaker 3>They're there, Chuck Schumer does not want to actually solve

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<v Speaker 3>this problem. He doesn't want to solve the fraud. Then

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<v Speaker 3>you have the really far leftiest that that that just

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<v Speaker 3>believe that should be socialism and socialized medicine, and they

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<v Speaker 3>they have no interest in looking at putting market forces

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<v Speaker 3>in here to try to solve some of the fraud front.

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<v Speaker 3>So he kind of got the three kind of got

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<v Speaker 3>the three groups. You have the radical left that wants

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with it. You have the political left

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<v Speaker 3>that just wants the political issue to run campaigns on.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you have then you have some of them

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<v Speaker 3>who are genuinely concerned and want to do it, but

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have enough stick inside their uh their conference

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<v Speaker 3>to actually get things done. But I'm gonna we'll keep,

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<v Speaker 3>We'll keep trying. You can't get what try to give up,

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<v Speaker 3>you just keep. You can't give up. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>try to keep fighting for the people that you represent.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you what's going to happen in five

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<v Speaker 1>or ten years, I would love to hear it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>about five trillion dollars spend in healthcare directly or indirectly,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about twenty two percent the whole American economy.

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<v Speaker 1>The American people, because of the premiums and the deductibilities,

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<v Speaker 1>are going to get so urinated off that they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to say throw their hands up and say, government, you

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<v Speaker 1>do it. We're going to have Medicare for all in

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<v Speaker 1>five or ten years. It will be like the DMV

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<v Speaker 1>or like the fraud we have president in Obamacare, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we then we're going to lose the essence of

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<v Speaker 1>freedom in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I fear is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of that strategy is to make it so

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<v Speaker 1>difficult and so hard to sign up and make it

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Bender types will throw up their hands say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had it.

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<v Speaker 2>Government.

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<v Speaker 1>You do a great job with the DMV, you run healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're now we got problems.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the issue. Right now, every American has access to

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<v Speaker 3>health care, but they don't have health insurance. Okay, in

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<v Speaker 3>Britain they have access to health insurance, but they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have access to health care. Why the government pays for

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<v Speaker 3>your insurance, but you can't get in to see a

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<v Speaker 3>doctor because they operate their healthcare system on scarcity and

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<v Speaker 3>so if you really get sick, you have to wait

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<v Speaker 3>six months or a year to actually go see a

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<v Speaker 3>doctor to get treated. And the American system does not

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<v Speaker 3>need to look like the European system. It needs to

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<v Speaker 3>look like an American system where we have market forces

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<v Speaker 3>where we because what's happened is the more government gets

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<v Speaker 3>involved in healthcare, the more the prices go up. The

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<v Speaker 3>more the prices go up, the less choice consumers have.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to empower consumers. That's why I like the

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<v Speaker 3>ideas of not sending the money to the insurance companies,

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<v Speaker 3>of sending it to the individual so that they can

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<v Speaker 3>have more choice on where they go access to their health care.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready for the big question?

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<v Speaker 3>Always running?

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<v Speaker 2>You're running?

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<v Speaker 4>Mate.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike DeWine has not endorsed for Veke Ramaswami, and he

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<v Speaker 1>says nice things about doctor Amy act and the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>nominee whenever, whenever he can, do you, as US Senator,

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<v Speaker 1>endorsed now for Veke Ramaswami.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we held Vivike and I held a news conference

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<v Speaker 3>where we jointly endorsed each other and we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be on the same ticket at the same time, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to bring home a victory for the Republican

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<v Speaker 3>team in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Will you talked to Mike about that?

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<v Speaker 3>I am am confident that Governor Dwine will ultimately endorse

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<v Speaker 3>for Ake Ramaswami. He knows good and well that Amy

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<v Speaker 3>Actin is not up to being governor of the state.

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<v Speaker 2>God help us all if she wins.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's well, let's continue with mar Senator drog

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<v Speaker 1>you staid, thank you very much and we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be listening and watching tonight at nine o'clock for the President.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to be with you. God bless America.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more coming up next after the news

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<v Speaker 1>will be Joe Deaters and Mark pete My are laying

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<v Speaker 1>out the case against Elwood Jones and White injustice was

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<v Speaker 1>done to the victim. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>ww Bye Billy Cunningham The Great American Studio With me

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<v Speaker 1>now is Joe Eaters, former Hamny County Prosecutor also on

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<v Speaker 1>the High Supreme Court. Now and Mark Petemar, who spent

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<v Speaker 1>how many years prosecuting criminals?

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<v Speaker 2>Are Mark? Did you spend forty.

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<v Speaker 4>Four year for six months when I was activated for

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<v Speaker 4>Desert Storm? So you know it's where the bodies are buried?

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<v Speaker 4>Forty four years by Joe. First of all, you want

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<v Speaker 4>to make a statement, Well, I just want to make sure.

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<v Speaker 6>That your listeners know that I am on the Supreme

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<v Speaker 6>Court and this has got nothing to do with the

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<v Speaker 6>Supreme Court. I voluntarily recused myself from anything to do with.

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<v Speaker 5>The Jones case, and.

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<v Speaker 6>I felt compelled to write this letter Bill that you

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<v Speaker 6>have now, and I think it's on your website too,

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<v Speaker 6>laying out my concerns with MS. Pillage's press conference clearing

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<v Speaker 6>Elwood Jones of the murder of rote of Nathan, and

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate the opportunity to come in here and talk

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<v Speaker 6>to you about it. I brought Mark with me. Mark

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<v Speaker 6>was the trial attorney in this case. I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>that many people know Mark's reputation, and I wish he

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't here to listen to this, but it's stellar. He

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<v Speaker 6>was the lead prosecutor in all the Lucasville riot cases.

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<v Speaker 6>He was in that office forty years about maybe the

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<v Speaker 6>best prosecutor in the state of Ohio. And Mark was

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<v Speaker 6>the trial attorney. And I send to be here with

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<v Speaker 6>us just in case you had questions about the facts

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<v Speaker 6>of this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pete Meyer did Eldwood Jones murder wrote a Nathan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, tell me why? Well? A lot of evidence. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I was speaking to Joe before.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we've tried some tough cases where you really

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<v Speaker 4>rely on eyewitnesses only, and those are the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the tough cases and people criticize this because it was

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<v Speaker 4>only quote only a circumstantial evidence case, And to me,

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<v Speaker 4>circumstantial evidence is unrefuted facts, and these are the unrefuted facts.

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<v Speaker 4>Elwood Jones was working on the second floor of the

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<v Speaker 4>Embassy Suites hotel in the afternoon of I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was a Friday afternoon setting up a banquet room when

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<v Speaker 4>a couple arrived to go into the room next door

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<v Speaker 4>to where he was working. That was Joe Kaplan and

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<v Speaker 4>Elaine Schube. Elwood could have easily seen them go into

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<v Speaker 4>that room, and our theory, as he did see them,

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<v Speaker 4>knew that it was a couple staying in that room.

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<v Speaker 4>Later that night, after Elwood got off of work, wrote

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<v Speaker 4>to Nathan, our victim showed up. Elwoodt did not realize

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<v Speaker 4>now that there are three people in the room. The

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<v Speaker 4>next morning, the couple that first arrived went down to

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<v Speaker 4>breakfast and wrote to Nathan is in the room. She's

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<v Speaker 4>going to take a shower. And Elwood is also working

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<v Speaker 4>in the room right next door.

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<v Speaker 2>That day.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a banquet room with the door open. And Elwood

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<v Speaker 4>is a thief. He's a career thief. And our belief

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<v Speaker 4>is is that he saw an opportunity, went in the

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<v Speaker 4>room because he thought it was open and confronts Rode

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<v Speaker 4>to Nathan. Roda Nathan is savagely beaten. She died of

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<v Speaker 4>blunt force trauma. There was very little blood at the

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<v Speaker 4>scene because it was just beaten to death. About a

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<v Speaker 4>half hour later, the couple comes back from breakfast, open

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<v Speaker 4>the door and they find Rotea Nathan laying on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>All she had on her was a bath towe.

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<v Speaker 4>They think, oh my god, she must have had a

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<v Speaker 4>heart attack, and they call paramatics and they come and

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<v Speaker 4>they're treating her, trying to revive her from what they

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<v Speaker 4>believed was a heart attack. Two other things were noticed

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<v Speaker 4>by the couple at the time. There was a distinctive

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<v Speaker 4>handweight made necklace that Rhoda always wore around her neck

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<v Speaker 4>and it was missing. Also, Elaine Schub noticed there were

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds of dollars of cash that she had in her

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<v Speaker 4>purse that was taken. One other thing is this is

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, thirty years ago or so, and back

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<v Speaker 4>then they didn't have the electronic key cards. You needed

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<v Speaker 4>a key to get in the door, and the door

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<v Speaker 4>latched automatically. But Joe Kaplan was sure when he left

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<v Speaker 4>the room. He did what most people do, checked to

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<v Speaker 4>made sure it was securely locked because they didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>it open with Rooda in they're taking a shower. When

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<v Speaker 4>Rhoda gets to the hospital, she dies. They take her

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<v Speaker 4>to the coroner's office and lo and behold, they find

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<v Speaker 4>that she died from blunt for's trauma. A couple other

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<v Speaker 4>things about her body. There was a couple of distinctive

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<v Speaker 4>bruises that were developed on her body. One was very

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<v Speaker 4>consistent with a walkie talkie, which some of the workers

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<v Speaker 4>in the hotel were issued. Elwood Jones was one of those.

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<v Speaker 4>There was also a door chain a latch, which is

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<v Speaker 4>kind of an unusual mark to have on a body.

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<v Speaker 4>She also had that on her body, and it told

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<v Speaker 4>us that whoever did this three things we know for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>The person had to have a master key. The person

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<v Speaker 4>also had to have a walkie talkie, and the person

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<v Speaker 4>also had to have one of these door latches. We

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<v Speaker 4>also know that the person that did this took Rhoda's necklace.

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<v Speaker 4>When Elwood Jones arrived at work that morning, everybody noticed

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<v Speaker 4>he was fine. A couple hours later, people noticed that

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<v Speaker 4>his left hand was bandaged, and people said Elwood, what

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 4>happened to your hand? And one person he said, we oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I's taking some trash out and I fell and I

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<v Speaker 4>cut it, And somebody else asked him, he goes, well,

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<v Speaker 4>when I was up on the second floor taking down

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<v Speaker 4>that banquet room, a piece of the floor and fell

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<v Speaker 4>on my hand and he cut it.

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<v Speaker 2>So some inconsistent things.

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<v Speaker 4>Immediately, when Blue Ass started investigating, they realized one very

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<v Speaker 4>important thing. Whoever did this had to be in the

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<v Speaker 4>hotel that morning and had to have a master key,

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<v Speaker 4>and that limited the suspect pool from hundreds of people

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<v Speaker 4>in the hotel to about four people. You know what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying this, I feel like I've given an opening

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<v Speaker 4>statement again. But these are the facts, and this is

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<v Speaker 4>what we presented to the jury. About four or five

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<v Speaker 4>days later, Elwood's hand got very infected and he's thinking,

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 4>I'd better do something about this, and he goes to

0:22:56.840 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 4>some clinic and there's a doctor, John McDonough, who told

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 4>at UC med School, and he was one of the

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.879
<v Speaker 4>best hand surgeons in the country. And one day a

0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 4>month he would volunteer to go to this clinic and

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 4>treat people basically for free. It's almost like God said,

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.959
<v Speaker 4>I want you there that day because I want someone

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 4>to see what Elwood has. And Elwood comes in and

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 4>his left hand has severely sworn. It's Elwood, what what

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 4>happened to your hand? And he gives them a couple

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 4>other stories, and the doctor knows that anytime you've got

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 4>a cut in one of your knuckles, chances are you

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:32.000
<v Speaker 4>pop somebody in the mouth. He also knows that inside

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:36.919
<v Speaker 4>the human gum line there's a bacteria Aikinella crodins. I

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 4>don't know science very well. Hell, I want to Roger

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 4>Bacon I Joe couldn't get in, but he had to

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 4>settle for saying it's just sad, you know, but we

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.919
<v Speaker 4>have standards like you. Anyway, he knew that if I

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 4>don't treat this hand for Kinella crones or tests for it,

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 4>he's going to lose his hand. So even though Elwood

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 4>said I cut it on something, he tested for this

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.160
<v Speaker 4>bacteria that's in the gumb line. Lo and behold, it's

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Aiconella crodins. In fact, he was so sure of this

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 4>he took a picture of Elwood's hand to teach to

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 4>his medical students and said, if anybody ever comes in

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 4>with a hand swollen like this, you've got to test

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 4>for that bacteria because if you don't, they're probably gonna

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 4>lose their hands. So when this came out, everybody started

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 4>focusing on Elwood Blueesh police got a search warrant for

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 4>his car, for his home, for his trunk of his car.

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 4>A couple things they found. Number one, they found alwaukie

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 4>talkie that actually Joe and I went to Washington, d C.

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 4>And had the FBI lab look at it and they

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 4>were able to match it. Again, it's a walkie talkie.

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 4>There were more than one in that hotel, but it

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:46.680
<v Speaker 4>matched all the rivets and everything matched exactly the mark

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 4>on Rood of Nathan's check chess. Also in his toolbox

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:54.639
<v Speaker 4>there was one of these door latches and that also

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:59.719
<v Speaker 4>matched the toolmark, the impression of that door lock on

0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 4>him on her chest, which is again that's a lot

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 4>more unusual than mil walkie talkie. But the absolute thing

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 4>that clinched it all was that pendant of Rooda Nathan.

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 4>There was a picture of taking of Rooda Nathan wearing

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 4>that and it matched exactly that pendant found in the

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 4>trunk of Elwood Jones's car. I think that's a pretty

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 4>darn good case.

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Rhoda is almost reaching back from the grave, saying the

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>evidence of my killing is in possession of the murderer,

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.199
<v Speaker 1>and that man was Edward Jones, and Roota had that

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 1>virus in her mouth. That was so that's how the

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 1>infection occurred.

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Joe.

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>When I read and you looked at the news conference

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>of our new prosecutor, Connie Pillage, she uses words like

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.359
<v Speaker 1>cheat it in quotes that you and Mark cheated. She

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>also used terms that you withheld evidence well. In other words,

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>she's accusing you two of making sure that an innocent

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 1>man is convicted and the guilt guy gets all free. Whoever,

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>this mystery man is with oj Simpson in a sand trap.

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>So how do you respond to this allegation of Connie Pillach,

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>who's never tried a criminal case in her life, that

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you cheated.

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm, frankly, I'm dumbfounded by the allegation. She's further stated

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 6>she's cleared him because of modern medical scientific evidence. I

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 6>don't know what she's talking about. If she is talking

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:33.199
<v Speaker 6>about hepatitis B. The defense's own witness, in his request

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 6>for a new trial, said there was about a thirty

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 6>three percent chance of him getting that by punching her

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 6>in the mouth.

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 2>So it's not how can you exclude.

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 6>Somebody when there's a seventy or sixty seven percent chance

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 6>that that could still be true.

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 2>But the allegation, Look, I said this in the letter.

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 6>I hope the people that are listening to this could

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 6>a chance to read the letter. It's not that it's

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 6>on our website, it's on your website.

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 5>It's just so offensive.

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 6>If she wants to let this guy go, maybe she says, oh,

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 6>you know what, thirty years is enough, the litigation is

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 6>enough in mercy for whatever reason, decides to let him go.

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 6>I got no problem with that. She's the prosecutor. She

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 6>can do whatever she wants. What I take umbrage to

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 6>is accusing the prosecutor's office of what I mean, seriously,

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 6>she's accusing people of a crime here hiding evidence. I mean,

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 6>that's that is outrageous to make that allegation. There's no

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 6>proof of it. And even that, look, we had the trial,

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 6>it went through all the judges in state court affirmed, affirmed, affirmed,

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.239
<v Speaker 6>Then they go to federal court. And when they went

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 6>to federal court, they asked for all these documents from

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 6>Blue Ash Police. We're basically questionnaires given to everybody stated

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 6>the hotel. The vast majority was we didn't see anything.

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 6>That's the thousands of pages of evidence that was hidden,

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 6>and then police runs to the hotel. The Federal Court

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 6>of Appeals, the judge oft at the trial level said

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 6>that the material was in fact immaterial and it would

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 6>not have affected the outcome of this trial. Then it

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 6>went all the way to the six Circuit Court of Appeals,

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.360
<v Speaker 6>Federal Court Appeals on the same issues, exact same issues,

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 6>and they unanimously affirmed that too. So this has been

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 6>litigated before, and to claim now that we've hid evidence

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 6>or that.

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 5>You can exclude this guy.

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Is total bull crap.

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Also, she said the modern scientific when she said that, I,

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think about DNA.

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>That's what I thought. There's no DNA.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>She was talking about a hepatitis B that one third

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of the time is communicated two thirds of time.

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Note also, Mark Petemeyer, you were.

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>In charge of providing to the defense in this case

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>all available evidence. You've been accused of playing a game

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>of Lucy Hyde the football, and that you had these

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>thousands and thousands of pages of inculpatory or exculpatory evidence

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that you refuse. You knew what was in there, and

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to give it to the defense because

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>it proved that Ellwood was innocent. That's the allegation of

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Connie Pillage. You're the guy in charge of giving the papers.

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>What do you say about that one?

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>That's just not true.

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 4>And Bill, you've tried a lot of cases to including

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 4>murder cases, and the rules of discovery back then is

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 4>the basically everything you had you gave to the defense.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 4>One thing they were not entitled to were witnesses statements.

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 4>Now since then the law has been changed. But as

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, if I called Joe Dieters as a witness

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 4>and he's made a prior statement before you cross examine him,

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 4>you can ask the judge to review his prior statement,

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 4>and the judge will do that and if there's anything

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 4>in there in conceit, he said, hey, here, Bill, you

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 4>can cross examined leaders on this because he said some

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 4>things different that happened during the trial a couple times.

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 4>That's the only thing that was not given up. But

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 4>again they had access to it during the trial. All

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 4>this other stuff, these questionnaires at blue ass sent out

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 4>that meant nothing. As far as I know, we never

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 4>got and we certainly never got afterwards. We never subpoenaed

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 4>the records of all the crimes that ever took place

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 4>in that hotel. I remember they had some prostitution ring

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 4>if you going on back there years ago, that a

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 4>lot of people were prosecuted for that, they had some

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.479
<v Speaker 4>undercover cops in there. Those are the kind of records

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 4>they also subpoened. So the vast, vast majority of this

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 4>stuff we never had. But the federal judge got all this,

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 4>all this stuff that they said proved he was innocent

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 4>and that we withheld. Again, we didn't even have it.

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 4>The judges looked at it and says, there's nothing here.

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 4>This is absolutely nothing that exculpitates Elwood Jones.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 2>And that's why it's already been ruled on.

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 4>That's that's why when a common police judge basically overruled

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 4>the federal judge and the Federal six Circuit Court of Appeals,

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 4>it's like, what's going on here?

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>What Judge Cross never been on the bench before. She's

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a brand new judge from the Public Defender's Office, and

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>she held a four day hearing on emotion for a

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>new trial, essentially the appetitis B issue, and not giving

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>over the document she used to explain, what's the motivation,

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Joe Eaters, what's the motivation?

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 5>I have no idea why you would do this.

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 6>I mean, she's parroting the talking points of the defense attorneys,

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 6>which is a good thing sometimes, well for you maybe,

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 6>But she's supposed to be representing the state of Ohio.

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 6>And you know, and I know this is kind of

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 6>personal in nature, but I was the prosecutor and I

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 6>litigated this case for twenty five years, and she clearly

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 6>talked to the defense attorneys. She was in a press

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 6>commerce she said, oh why send them a screenshot of

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 6>my emotions to dismiss the whole case, you know, almost gleefully.

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 6>And she never called me one time. I'd met her.

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 6>One time, I said, if you need anything, feel free

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 6>to call me. Be happy to talk to you about

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 6>the office. But so she talks to the I don't

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 6>know who she talked to besides these defense attorneys that

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 6>she said she talked to. But anyone who thinks that

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 6>Ellwood's been excluded, Uh, I'm trying to be judicious about this.

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 6>It's either dead wrong, or they're lying. You know, they

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 6>just don't understand what this what exclusion means, it's gonna turn.

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 6>It means he can't possibly be the guy.

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 2>That's what Connie Pillage said.

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>This cannot be the guy, Mark Petemer based upon the

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>layout of the case.

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>This can and.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>In fact, there's somebody out there who committed this other

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>than El would now talk about his record.

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Many you didn't talk about it.

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>He was in his early forties when he committed these crimes.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I watched the Curtis Fuller interview at

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Channel five and almost seemed like a he was a

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>boy scout leader. When we come back, I want you

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the previous record of Eldwood Jones. Well,

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>misbehavior is consistent, which includes, by the way, assault on

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>a police officer. Well, talk about that on the other side.

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, the letter is on our Twitter account.

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham with Mark Pete Meyer

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and Joe Eaters on News Radio seven hundred WLW. Now

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>let's continue. Now we have in the studio Joe Meeters

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>and also Mark Pete Meyer. Left it kind of hanging

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>because many times this is such a vicious beating some

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of wrote his teeth was found in our stomach.

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 4>Correct, there was one on the floor of the hotel

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 4>room and one was found in her stomach.

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Now, what was the previous criminal record of Elwood Jones.

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's interesting because when they did the podcast,

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 4>the inquiry reported to the original podcast, she says, well, well,

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:59.239
<v Speaker 4>would't you're not a saint or he goes, no, no,

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 4>I gotta admit I'm I'm a thief. I'm a thief,

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 4>and it was They laughed about that, like it's okay.

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 4>But he was more than a thief. He was arrested

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 4>five or six times for assault, you know, physically beating someone,

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 4>once for domestic violence, which would have been beating his wife,

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.360
<v Speaker 4>once for assault on a police officer. But he was

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 4>also arrested four times, four different times for aggravated burglar,

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 4>which is breaking into someone's residence to steal something. After

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 4>I guess the first couple. He actually was convicted on

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 4>one of those and went to prison, apparently convinced the

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.439
<v Speaker 4>par board that hey, I've been scared straight, I learned

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 4>my lesson.

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to see me again.

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 4>They cut him loose early and with a short amount

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 4>of time, he was arrested and convicted of another burglary

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 4>and went down to prison. So Elwood Jones was a

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 4>career criminal. And what better place for a guy like

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.479
<v Speaker 4>him to work at a nice hotel with a master key.

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like a kid in a candy store.

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>One of the other allegations of County pillage was that

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>there was someone else who would confessed to the murder

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>of with Jones. Can you ferret out the facts in

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 1>that matter?

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 4>Yes, this was first came to light, I think from

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 4>one of his attorneys twenty years after the murder happened.

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 4>But they had a lady who said back around that

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 4>shortly after this happened, she was locked up in the

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 4>justice center and her cell mate was a lady I

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 4>think her name was Linda Reid. And they get to

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 4>be talking, kicking a little bit, and Linda Reid tells this, lady,

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 4>I have to tell you something. You know that person

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 4>that's been arrested on that embassy suite's case. Yes, yes, well,

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 4>my husband the one is really did it, and the

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 4>blue ass police framed that guy for it. But my

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 4>husband is really the one that This is important stuff

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 4>right now, Yeah, this is big. Well, somebody confessed to it.

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>So Mark Petmer's your ears looked like a rabbit.

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:46.959
<v Speaker 4>Well this is you know, it is twenty years later.

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 4>But still, who is this guy? I mean, I never

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 4>remember number one, he didn't work for Blue ass Police.

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 4>Number two, there's no association with him in the hotel.

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 4>And then we find out at the time this lady

0:35:58.000 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 4>is locked up and she's telling her cell mate that

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 4>she's going through a divorce with her husband. So I'm thinking, well,

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of red flag number one. But I only

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 4>under say, you know what, I'm gonna go over and

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 4>pull the domestic relations court case and see, maybe this

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 4>guy is a violent guy and he's constantly beating the

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 4>crap out of her, and maybe it's something like that.

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 4>When I pull the file, I see it's Ken Peller,

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 4>guardian for Ken Peller's a local attorney, guardian for Linda

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Reid versus mister Reid. And I'm thinking, why does she

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 4>have a guardian? I mean, why is she not participating

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 4>in the divorce? So I look further and actually contacted

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 4>Ken Peller. He says she was incompetent, she was mentally

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 4>incompetent to participate.

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 2>That that's the hook upon which Connie Pillage hangar of

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 2>this well.

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 4>First of one, it's double hearsay because the guy that

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 4>really did it is dead. His wife is really dead,

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 4>So the person that did it telling his wife is

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 4>hearsay it, and his wife telling this other lady is

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 4>double hearsay. So number one, it's legally admissible, inadmissible. But

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 4>this lady that said it was found crazy by the

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 4>court so much that she couldn't even participate in her

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 4>own divorce.

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 2>No way in the world. That is evidence. But that

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 2>is the third prong.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 4>Again, Number one is the evidence that we withheld that

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 4>the court said no. Number two is the hepatitis Whi's

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 4>only a third of the people. In fact, the study

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 4>that guy referred to us people that use needles of

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 4>other people, and you're very likely probably to get it there,

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 4>but a third of those people get it, only a third.

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.399
<v Speaker 4>So anyway, those are the three prongs based on that

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 4>he's cleared.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 2>He's ex Yeah.

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Someone else confessed Joe talk about hepatitis, be because you

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>told me off there. There was some reference in the

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.359
<v Speaker 1>optops optops the well.

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 6>The defense initially said we hid the fact that she

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 6>had hepatitis.

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Did you do that.

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 6>Well, it was in the autopsy report that they got.

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 6>It was in black and white. Yes, it was intops,

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 6>she said. And I don't have to tell them what

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 6>defense to pursue. They can do whatever they want. You know,

0:37:56.400 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 6>it's not my job. But they received information she had appetitis.

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.320
<v Speaker 6>You know the reason I wanted to come here, Bills.

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 6>I was so offended by that press conference.

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it was.

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 6>Factually and fundamentally incorrect, and it was so offensive to

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:21.879
<v Speaker 6>accuse my office of hiding evidence to convict an innocent man,

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 6>is it. I don't know that she realizes the magnitude

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 6>of that statement. I mean, if people actually did that,

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 6>they should be in jail. That it's just beyond defensive

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 6>to me. And she I think she owes the prosecutors

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 6>an apology for this, But you know she's obviously talking

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 6>to defense attorneys and that's who she talks to. So

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 6>I guess that's the message you get out of this

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 6>whole case.

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>And Mark Pete Myer. As far as Elwood Jones himself,

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I watched an interview on Channel five. They did have

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 1>a Curtis fall Or positioning himself as a guy who's

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>made a few mistakes in the past, like beating up

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.800
<v Speaker 1>your wife and hitting cops and serving time in prison

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>for burglaries twice twice.

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 2>And now he's seen the light.

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:15.720
<v Speaker 1>And when she uses the term cheated, that you cheated

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>in this case, how does that.

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Strike your heart? It really offends me.

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.439
<v Speaker 4>And again I was asked by Connie Pillets to stick

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 4>around and help with the transition for the office, which

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 4>I agreed to do.

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 2>And I, you know, she's the other party.

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 4>I supported Missy Powers, and I thought, you know, people

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 4>are going to come in and take over the senior

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 4>positions that really have never done this stuff. In fact,

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 4>within the first month, I think we had two different

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 4>police shootings and I always.

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Went on both of those, on all of those.

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 4>So I took the new people out to show you

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 4>how we get involved in these police shootings, what we

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 4>do when we don't do, how we make decisions. So,

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, I did my best to help with the transition,

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, just so because I cared about the office.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 4>I cared about the county forty four years, yes, and

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 4>for them to imply that and Seth Tiger was the

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 4>other person that tried the case.

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I saw much younger Mark Petemyer and a much younger

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Seth Tiger standing up in nineteen ninety Yes, yes, ninety

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>five or six was the trial, and now.

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 4>We're bent over with Walkers, so it's not the same game.

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 4>But again that's I just I was stunned. I mean,

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 4>I just where did this come from?

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.919
<v Speaker 1>Another aspect of the case is I can sense things

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>are often about money, and the county prosecutor is in

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:26.800
<v Speaker 1>charge of representing judges and prosecutors because the county prosecutor

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>has civil responsibilities, thinking as a civil attorney, which I

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 1>think neither maybe you two or none, I don't know.

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 1>You're on the Supreme Court and you're retired more or less.

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>What does it do when the county prosecutor, representing the

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>judges and the prosecutors and the sheriff, et cetera, come

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>in open forums and say, you know what, we cheat

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>it not we but you guys cheated you withheld evidence

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>and there's new stuff that isn't new stuff. What does

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that do for the liability of Hamilman County. To me,

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you're saying we are liable. You know, there's two things

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 1>in a civil suit. A is are you liable for it?

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And b is how much money do you get? And

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>she is the has a civil division that represents the

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>county against lawsuits, and she's basically saying, we didn't accidentally,

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>we may have intentionally sent an innocent man to death row.

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's if it's when Ella's going to

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 1>file this huge civil suit against the county, and if

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>i'm them, witness number one is County Pillage. Hey, you

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 1>said he's exonerated and the office cheated.

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I might.

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:40.320
<v Speaker 6>I sent this letter to the Attorney General's office today

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:45.839
<v Speaker 6>also because if he makes his ridiculous claim, though at

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 6>least no where to go to talk to about the

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 6>facts of the case. I just want to make it

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 6>very clear to your listener's Bill Milevis doesn't cheat. To

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 6>make that statement is highly offensive. Elwood Jones is a murderer.

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 6>We had the right guy, absolutely positively sure, and she

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 6>let him go.

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Now why she let him go, I.

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 6>Have no idea, But her reasons that she stayed in

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 6>her press conference are ridiculous and they're so easily proved

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 6>as false.

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe she said it. At this point, where

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:28.800
<v Speaker 1>do we go from here? Ellwood?

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:32.720
<v Speaker 6>Right now, Elwood is a freeman and there's absolutely nothing

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 6>that can be done about it. But I just hope

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 6>that some truth comes out of that office. You know,

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 6>when they make decisions like this of this magnitude. This

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 6>is a thirty year old death penalty case, and everyone

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.240
<v Speaker 6>forgets about Rhoda Nathan, Everyone forgets about the victim's family,

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 6>and they're this suffering. I talked to her son a

0:42:54.960 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 6>couple of times over the weekend, and his hurt is

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.280
<v Speaker 6>like it happened yesterday's.

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Connie said he was disappointed. Yeah, she said, he's furious.

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 6>And as a matter of fact, we gave I think

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 6>you have his statement bill that he made. He's stunned,

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 6>he's sick to his stomach. It went beyond disappointment.

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Mark Pete Maher as far as it's inexplicable how this

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>diamond special brooch just happened to show up in the

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:32.240
<v Speaker 1>toolbox of Elwood Jones. And there's no answer other than

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody planeted it, you know, the O. J. Simpson defense.

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Somebody somebody killed the other. The two gloves and the

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 1>blood and the car. Someone did it, And so can

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you state for the record, I feel silly asking this

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 1>question whether you plant it the diamond brooch and the

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>toolbox along with the pass key and the chain link?

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Did you plant?

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Did Blue exh police plan it to make sure an

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 1>innocent man was convicted and a guilty man sent free.

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Can you admit whether or not you did that or not?

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I want a lawyer, You want a lawyer. Yeah, take

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 2>the bill.

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 6>If if they're gonna frame Elwood, why don't just get

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:07.919
<v Speaker 6>somebody wrote his blood and throw it around his car

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 6>or throw it on his clothes.

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 4>The other thing, one of the first officers interviewed him

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 4>and he wasn't in custody yet and he talked to him.

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:15.840
<v Speaker 4>They could have said, you know, he told me I

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.840
<v Speaker 4>didn't mean to kill her. I didn't think anybody be

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they could make up a statement. The important

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 4>thing is, too, is when as soon as that other

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.760
<v Speaker 4>couple got back to the room, they noticed her necklace

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 4>was gone. So it's not like it was laying on

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 4>the floor and an officer could have picked it up.

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 4>And plus, why would you you're thinking this is a

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 4>piece of evidence, You're gonna put it into evidence. You're

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 4>gonna put it in a little baggy, You're gonna print it.

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna do that. So theoretically one of the officers

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 4>got that, held it till the right time, and then

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 4>somehow put it in his toolbox.

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 2>It's just physically, I don't know how you could do it.

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>So, in a sense, indirectly or directly, Hamnica Prosecutor's office

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>is accusing a dead blue ash police officer of planning

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 1>evidence in a capital case.

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Joe, how does well, It's that's absurd.

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 6>It's one of men the offensive statements made by this

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 6>office that I would hope people ask the hard questions,

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 6>how can you exclude this guy? How can you make

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 6>these statements that people hit stuff? I mean, it's just false.

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 6>It's it is blatantly false. And that's one thing. And

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 6>I said before, if she wants to let the guy go,

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 6>that's her. I mean she's a prosecutor, have mercy. You know,

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 6>he's been in there thirty years, whatever, go ahead, let

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 6>him go. But to then use just falsehoods for the

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 6>reason that evidence was hidden and that new medical scientific

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 6>evidence has excluded him, that's just false. And someone else confessed,

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 6>I mean, she's making false statements, I mean, just to

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:52.319
<v Speaker 6>her constituents about this case and impugning the reputation of

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 6>really good prosecutors that devoted their lives to public service.

0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 6>And she, you know, she's casually offensive comment and it's horrible.

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a concern in the future. There's other

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>noted cases that you two guys handled, and you're two

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>of one of one hundred and fifty prosecutors in Hamlin

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 1>County when you two guys are there, Well, she listens.

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:16.399
<v Speaker 6>To defense attorneys and not talk to the prosecutors. She's

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:18.720
<v Speaker 6>gonna come the same conclusion on a bunch of cases.

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 6>There's noted cases, Wogenstall, Tracy Hunter, just line them up.

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:26.760
<v Speaker 6>Let's come up with something here. Anthony Killer, Anthony Kirkland.

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 6>After all the defense council said, you know, is he

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 6>is he executed yet?

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 4>No, but he's there's that SMI defense cerial mental illness

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 4>that they found a doctor to say he has that,

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<v Speaker 4>and if he does, the judge can take him off

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<v Speaker 4>death row.

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<v Speaker 1>But not on off debt. L would not off death row.

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<v Speaker 1>He got to know our bond and it's walking around

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Hamilton County right now. Well, he's he doesn't even have

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to know our bond anymore. He's three with prejudice, which

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<v Speaker 1>means it's over it could ever be refined. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>concerned this will be repeated? As part of your motivation

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<v Speaker 1>coming here today is to say, Okay, this is Elwood Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>He got thirty years, which is better than nothing. But

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<v Speaker 1>worry about the next case, in the next case, in

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<v Speaker 1>the next case. Have you concerned this this will be repeated?

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<v Speaker 5>I hope it's not, but.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, unfortunately I'll have to speak out on it

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<v Speaker 6>again if it does, and I will, especially if she

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 6>uses the reason, oh, we hid evidence or you know,

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<v Speaker 6>something that's totally false scientifically.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just false.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how else to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as the dead police officer in blue ash,

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<v Speaker 1>his name's been out there, I hesitate to repeat it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's indirectly accusing him or someone like him, of committing

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>serious felonies while wearing the uniform of a police officer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's and by all counts, was a great police officer.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know Marx has said this before. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got kids, he's got a wife, and to hear

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<v Speaker 1>your dead father talked about like this, and if nothing else,

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, somebody has to stand up for a road

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<v Speaker 1>to Nathan.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, she came to this hotel for bar Mitzvah

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<v Speaker 6>from New Jersey. Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Was brutally murdered.

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<v Speaker 6>The evidence is overwhelming on Elwood Jones, and it just

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<v Speaker 6>seems like her name gets lost in the shuffle here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, came here for a Jewish shavenna about Smithsmah and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden she has her teeth punched down

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<v Speaker 1>into her stomach. Can you imagine the violence of that attack?

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty seven year old woman with Elwood had no chance,

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.760
<v Speaker 1>but she fought like a warrior poet and she lost.

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And she lost her money out of her purse. She

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 1>lost her life, She lost her diamond brooch, almost as

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>if she said, the killer has my diamond brooch.

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<v Speaker 6>She lost her life, But think about what her family

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<v Speaker 6>lost because by all accounts, and I talked to her again.

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<v Speaker 6>I talked to her son Val over the weekend twice.

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<v Speaker 6>She was just a lovely woman. Just she kept their

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 6>family together and the loss they feel almost hourly.

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<v Speaker 5>And someone needs to speak for her.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just wish there is more sensitivity to victims

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<v Speaker 6>in that office.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Pete, Maher, thank you anything that you want to

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<v Speaker 2>add I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've asked you a few questions here sir, are you okay,

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, you're okay.

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll say the hell out of my wife, Carol. She's listening.

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<v Speaker 4>How many years, fifty years in May you're going to

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 4>keep you or not? We went to the Roger Bacon

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:33.319
<v Speaker 4>prown together. So, oh my gosh, back in a good

0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 4>old day, back in a good old days. Yes, I'm

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:36.399
<v Speaker 4>not sure there was so Joe, you okay.

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 6>The last thing my wife says said, don't say hi

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 6>to me, So I'm not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well nine stands for news. That's all I know. Well, guys,

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.359
<v Speaker 1>good luck. And by the way, you think it's over,

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just it's over. It's for Elwood is over.

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<v Speaker 2>It's over for Elk. You come forward and confess now.

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 4>And there's legally nothing you can do about it, because

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 4>she dismissed it with prejudice.

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 1>So Ellwood could say, you know, I found the lord,

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 1>beat up cops, beat up my wife, burglarized bunch of places,

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>went to prison a few times, and then all of

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you know, I'm sorry I did, murder wrote,

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm very sorry I did, and I beat her to

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 1>death and I shouldn't have done it, but I suspect

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 1>that will not occur. But if it did, he's still

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a free man. Joe, thank you. You worry about the future,

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>don't you do? This is one case I do. All right, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, sir, thank you. Let's continue with more news

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<v Speaker 1>Radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 7>First of all, I want to say, but the fighter

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<v Speaker 7>the Clamland Browns today will be in the fight of

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<v Speaker 7>the Cincinnati Bengals tomorrow, the fight of.

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<v Speaker 8>The Chicago Bears fans.

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<v Speaker 9>Next year, the fight of the Steelers fans.

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<v Speaker 8>And if you lose this battle, the NFL is gonna lose.

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<v Speaker 10>No more.

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<v Speaker 8>I got a football fans, We'll go to basketball baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>And hell what the NFL and.

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<v Speaker 8>The Browns ever lamed Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 7>Many years ago an American stot of different Frenches, the

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<v Speaker 7>Patrons and Concording Lexington said no to the British. The

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<v Speaker 7>Patrons in World War Two said no the heckl and Mussolini.

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<v Speaker 8>The Patriots and the person go for said no, Samus,

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<v Speaker 8>and the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 11>Today they say no heart, no, no.

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<v Speaker 8>Discies.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a battle for the heart and.

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<v Speaker 8>Soul of America. This is a battle for your moms

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 8>and dads. This is a battle for your children.

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<v Speaker 9>This there's no battle from the integrity of the.

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<v Speaker 8>American Why you life?

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<v Speaker 11>If we cannot lose, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Say no.

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<v Speaker 12>What about call may have lit the match, but the

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 12>torches burning him on Cinerado, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a brown Stone stay in Cleveland. Oh hell's gonna

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<v Speaker 8>break loose?

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<v Speaker 10>God, Hello, buyet.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm broadcastings. I want to thank Matt and

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<v Speaker 1>Reese for saving that thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 13>Today, really today that you stood on that you stood

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 13>on that flatbed truck outside Cleveland's municipal stadium, rent and

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 13>raving like a maniac. Desperate Browns fans needed leadership from

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 13>the Southern command since and what the Browns do and

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<v Speaker 13>want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So that the fur ball was that Were you with

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 2>us that day? Yes, you were there.

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<v Speaker 1>We go into the stadium, Cleveland Municimal the last game

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<v Speaker 1>played right, Bengals and Browns and tearing the hell out

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<v Speaker 1>of the place.

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<v Speaker 14>We got about a minute twenty left in the game

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<v Speaker 14>at this point, and it's getting very ugly in the

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<v Speaker 14>Dog Pound. They're lifting the bleacher seats out and throwing

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 14>them down by the gold post.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Matt racist report that they're tearing seats out

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<v Speaker 1>and everything right, they picked up.

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<v Speaker 14>Just two and a half minutes left on the clock

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<v Speaker 14>there and there are people who are apparently tearing up

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 14>the stands over there and the bleachers and throwing things

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<v Speaker 14>as a firecracker.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever think it would come to this?

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<v Speaker 15>No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 15>They call that the dog pot over there, and that's

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<v Speaker 15>by you have your probably more friends and showed the

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:29.960
<v Speaker 15>enthusiasm than any part of the stadium. And uh, they

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:30.920
<v Speaker 15>come to wear.

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<v Speaker 2>A different kind of outfits.

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<v Speaker 15>They had dog bolt out of them and with their uh,

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<v Speaker 15>I think it's it's they're just expressing their destroysure.

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<v Speaker 2>We're taking place, guys in the bag and uh, Andy

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<v Speaker 2>Furman was with us, and we go behind the Browns

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<v Speaker 2>bench up walks Bill Belichick right, and Andy would send him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, letters, a few Belichick whatever happened to him?

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to Jordan Hudson about that. Yeah, And now, so

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<v Speaker 1>next thing was a young coach name Nick saban Bingo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your name? Said Bill Cunningham. He done Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame chap thirty years ago. Now, Alabama, how about about

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<v Speaker 1>sorry abou him and his wife from a small town

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<v Speaker 1>in East Virginia. Right, they're at a stop line in

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginia. Nick Saban's with his wife about four years

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<v Speaker 1>ago that lou Grozo with Matt and reechs gotta played

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<v Speaker 1>it again for Louke and so uh. Nick Saban looks

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<v Speaker 1>over at the Sitgo gas station, small town in West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>and the guy pumping gas was someone who dated Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Saban's wife thirty years ago. And so Nick Saban says

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<v Speaker 1>to his wife, look at that guy in that jeth

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<v Speaker 1>throw you know that's him. Hell, if you would have

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<v Speaker 1>married him, you'd be pumping gas and uh in Sitgo

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<v Speaker 1>stations and Morgantown, West Virginia. The wife looked at Nick

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and said, look are you kidding me? If I would

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<v Speaker 1>have married him, he'd be the head football coach of

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama and you'd be pumping gas and the SITG station

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<v Speaker 1>in Morgantown, West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a good comeback?

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<v Speaker 2>Did Joe Deeters put the cheese on the cracker several slices? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And as I said, I've had Connie Pilach on before, right,

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<v Speaker 1>yes you have if she wants to come on and

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<v Speaker 1>refute this.

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<v Speaker 2>My airwaves are yours.

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<v Speaker 16>College basketball, Willie, it was Miami taking the lead early

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 16>and never look back. They've Wright State last night, so

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<v Speaker 16>the RedHawks and Travis Steel for the first time in

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<v Speaker 16>school history eleven and oher congratulations on what he what

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<v Speaker 16>coach Steel has done in love and honor, he said, man,

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<v Speaker 16>and I'm glad he's doing well tonight. Alabama State and

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<v Speaker 16>the Cincinnati Bearcats fifth third arena, six point thirty here

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<v Speaker 16>on seven hundred WLW. Xavier opens Big Big East Conference

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<v Speaker 16>play hosting Creighton at six. When I had on Iris Rolie.

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<v Speaker 16>Did I let her talk on fifty five KRC. Yes,

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<v Speaker 16>also tonight Horizon League Action.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about getting the words out segment. That's what I'm about,

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<v Speaker 2>the words.

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<v Speaker 16>Oakland and Nku at six thirty on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 16>Now, going back to the Bearcats, Gisel James has returned

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 16>to the roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we know why he left the roster?

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<v Speaker 16>I have no idea. I guess bad, happy or something.

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<v Speaker 16>But the top scorer from last year is back on

0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:01.440
<v Speaker 16>the Bearcats roster. The Orlando, Florida native will be in

0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:02.440
<v Speaker 16>action tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to know what it is. I don't know

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 2>what happened. Do we have the right to know?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably probably the green Salad. The salvation has something to

0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 1>do with it wasn't paid enough. The Miami Dolphins are

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:16.640
<v Speaker 1>benching Tua and they're going to turn to rookie quinn

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Ewers as their starter Sunday against the Bengals in South Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>And isn't Arch Manning going to the draft? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think no.

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<v Speaker 16>He says no, he's returning to Texas. He said that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 16>How much money is he getting to return to Texas,

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<v Speaker 16>probably plenty. I'll tell you what if what's his name

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<v Speaker 16>is worth four million in Texas tech, Well, how much

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 16>is Manning worth of Texas? Probably double it or moreo

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<v Speaker 16>Ohio College, Ohio University, the home of Tom Brenneman, can

0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 16>Brew and others, the home of the Bobcats, have fired

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 16>head coach at Bryan Smith for cause today. What's saying

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<v Speaker 16>Smith violated his contract by engaging in serious professional misconduct

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<v Speaker 16>and participating in activities that reflect unfavorably on the university.

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<v Speaker 2>This is sure own more situation.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's very that's all. That's all they said.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 16>John, the defensive coordinator, John Hauser was named interim coach

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<v Speaker 16>and he'll lead the how you Bobcats into the Frisco

0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:21.120
<v Speaker 16>Bowl against UNLV.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a text here in caring minds want to

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<v Speaker 1>know was Gisel James involved in a legal matter?

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<v Speaker 2>What can you tell me, Tony? Well, he probably he

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<v Speaker 2>knows it all.

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<v Speaker 16>Also, Soccer FC Cincinnati has transferred to Alvaro Barriel back

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:43.920
<v Speaker 16>to his Brazilian As Santos FC team for a multi

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 16>million dollar fee.

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<v Speaker 2>Who pays the feet?

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<v Speaker 16>I guess, uh? I guess his Brazilian club. They had

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:57.440
<v Speaker 16>him here on loan, and so he goes back to Brazil. Well,

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<v Speaker 16>I tell you what FC Cincinnati is like upheaval. They're trying,

0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:05.320
<v Speaker 16>they're they're they're they're up, up up, and uh get

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 16>give Jeff Burning credit, right, he's trying. Well, they're trying

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<v Speaker 16>to get better, and they're letting a lot of people go.

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<v Speaker 16>But hopefully it all works.

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<v Speaker 1>You see segment how much money should someone receive if,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact they were wrongfully prosecuted and sent to death

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<v Speaker 1>row for thirty years and the other side's lawyer, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Countye Pillage, Yeah, admits that it was an intentional act

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<v Speaker 1>and that compensation therefore must be paid. How much would

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<v Speaker 1>the taxpayers of Amileton County pay for this one zillions

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty years, thirty years, thirty years. When you're hot,

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<v Speaker 1>you're hot. You've got to see what And they got

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<v Speaker 1>to pay out eight and a half million of those protesters,

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<v Speaker 1>right that broke the law.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta pay him, but they they they put the lawsuit

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<v Speaker 2>in there and they won. Gotta pay him. Segment unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Mack and.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Alfonse go Hartstein and Louis Serkin is going to

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<v Speaker 1>make a fortune because she says, among other things, Connie

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<v Speaker 1>Pillage that the prosecutor's office cheated, and that means Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Eaters and and of course Mark Pete Mayer cheated. So

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<v Speaker 1>the lawyer for the other side, which the taxpayer, just

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<v Speaker 1>admit it. We're gonna pay Ellwood a bunch of money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That they withheld quote thousands of pages of withheld information, your.

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<v Speaker 2>Comments, your two guests for you two guests earlier laid

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<v Speaker 2>it out.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll never happen again. When a Supreme Court justice reaches

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<v Speaker 1>down to the local level and puts the cheese on

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<v Speaker 1>the cracker, takes off the robe and takes back to

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor's office with Mark Petemeyer and others.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I had to go down there and uh, you know, mutiny.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's gonna happen, but all of my

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<v Speaker 1>comments myself have I said, once again, normally there's two

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<v Speaker 1>or three sides to ever story correct, right, So if

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<v Speaker 1>Ledwood Jones, or Alfonska Hartstein, or Louis Serkin or Counnie

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<v Speaker 1>Pillage or Sharon Coolidge, anybody once come on and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I respectful of my guest, Do I let them

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<v Speaker 2>get their words out? Yeah? Absolutely, because I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>all the answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Just when you think you know all the answers, Sei, man,

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<v Speaker 1>someone changes the questions, that's for sure. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to have the county prosecutor come on

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<v Speaker 1>and put some meat on the bones and let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask her about these pieces of evidence that seemed conclusively

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<v Speaker 1>to point in Elwood Jones, but to declare that he

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<v Speaker 1>was wrongfully prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an innocent man.

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<v Speaker 1>The guilty guy is still out there somewhere and the

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Deaters and Mark Petemyer hit evidence and cheated. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if she feels that way, come into the web right here,

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<v Speaker 1>sit sit right there, and let you and I talk,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll ask her the questions and I will be

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<v Speaker 1>as respectful as always as I am. Segment, Get me

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<v Speaker 1>out of the Studge Report, will thee an out of

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful day here at the tri State? And putting

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<v Speaker 1>the cheese on the kracker, we leave you with the

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<v Speaker 1>immortal words of the stew Report.

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<v Speaker 14>Two and a half minutes left on the clock there

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<v Speaker 14>and there are people who are apparently tearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Up the stands over there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Matt Reese interviewing, among others, Lou Groza thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Today it happens segment the Browns moved to Baltimore and

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens were born and quickly won two Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven hundred W BLW.

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<v Speaker 1>My Billy Cunning in the Great American I've been here

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. I've never been with something so dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Supreme Court sitting justice takes off his black robe,

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<v Speaker 1>puts back on his prosecutor's hat and begins by stating,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things, in his statement that I'm appearing. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me read you with the opening line as you go

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<v Speaker 1>to our Twitter x account and get the information before

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<v Speaker 1>addressing the evidence in this case. This is a letter

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<v Speaker 1>from Joe Dieters to County Pillage. I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>clear about the capacity in which I write. I do

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<v Speaker 1>both as a former prosecuting attorney of Hamlet County and

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<v Speaker 1>the citizen of this county, and my current role is

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<v Speaker 1>the justice on the I Supreme Court. I've exercised scrupulous

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<v Speaker 1>caution with respect to matters originating from my former office.

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<v Speaker 1>Consistent with this obligation, I voluntarily recused myself any participation

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<v Speaker 1>in the Elwood Jones case.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's on to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the full news conference in which you dismissed

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<v Speaker 1>the entire case against Elwood Jones. During that conference, you

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<v Speaker 1>publicly proclaim that Jones had been caught cleared of the

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<v Speaker 1>murder of Miss Nathan, asserting that your decision was based

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<v Speaker 1>on quote modern day medical testing unquote that excluded Elwood

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<v Speaker 1>Jones as a suspect quote unquote, Well, it does not

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<v Speaker 1>exclude him as a suspect. There's no DNA involved in

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<v Speaker 1>this case. It is the ability of someone with hepatitis B,

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<v Speaker 1>which wrote ahead wrote to Nathan, had to communicate that

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<v Speaker 1>to Elwood Jones during the time that Elwood Jones was

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<v Speaker 1>viciously punching sixty seven year old wrote to Nathan in

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<v Speaker 1>the face, driving her teeth into her stomach. And according

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe Dieters and Mark Petmeyer, the defense's own expert witness,

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<v Speaker 1>said that the communication that transmission would happen about one

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<v Speaker 1>third of the time, and two thirds of the time

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<v Speaker 1>it would not be transmitted. So is that irrefutable that

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<v Speaker 1>to Elwood Jones is in fact the murderer. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. And the current county prosecutor who's been on

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<v Speaker 1>my show a couple times, and she's welcome to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't beraate anyone. I want to get the story out.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Dieters also said in this letter, you publicly impugned

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<v Speaker 1>the integrity of former members of my office, suggesting they cheated,

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<v Speaker 1>and falsely implied that thousands of pages of evidence had

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<v Speaker 1>been withheld from the defense. By the way, Mark Petmer

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<v Speaker 1>answered that you compounded these accusations by portraying your actions

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<v Speaker 1>as a necessary corrective measure to allege past misconduct. Invoking

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<v Speaker 1>the creation of a conditioned integrity unit is justification, He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>want to say that these assertions by you, assertions at

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<v Speaker 1>County Pillage are false, reckless, and profoundly damaging. They constitute

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<v Speaker 1>a gross dis service to the people of Hamlet County

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<v Speaker 1>and an unjustified attack on honorable, honorable public servants.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what the response should be.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I believe that Connie Pillage, the elected county prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 1>did not hang around to answer questions in the media,

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<v Speaker 1>And with all due respect to the media, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they have the intimate knowledge of the case that

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have because of speaking to Mark and

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe a long time about this matter, and so

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<v Speaker 1>if there's another version of the facts that need to

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<v Speaker 1>get out, I'm more than happy to provide a form

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<v Speaker 1>for Connie Pillage to come on to explain it in

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<v Speaker 1>a non adversarial way. When I have on people I

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with, like Iris Rowley, I think she admitted and

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<v Speaker 1>when she left her she had her say, She got

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<v Speaker 1>her word out, and then you as a listener can

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<v Speaker 1>decide whether it's good, bad, or and different, whether in

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<v Speaker 1>fact you know it's something that you accept her or don't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've also said to Joe and others that, in

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<v Speaker 1>a sense, what difference does it make At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>if the election were held tomorrow Countie, Pillage likely would

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<v Speaker 1>still win. Goes so they can because of the constituency

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<v Speaker 1>the voters of Hamlyn County. Criticisms of the mayor, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Are somewhat interesting, but he got I think seventy eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the vote, and all the crap that came

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<v Speaker 1>out about him maybe cost him one or two percentage points.

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<v Speaker 1>She still won easily, So at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Mark Pete Meyer and Joe Dieters had their say,

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<v Speaker 1>other shoes will drop in this matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you what they are. At the end,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Joe, is it over? He said, yes, it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she dismissed it with prejudice, which means it can't

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<v Speaker 1>be brought again, and the trial court has stamped it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's over done.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you know, as attorneys, we have to shall

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<v Speaker 1>we say, comply with certain rules of ethics from Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>Disciplinary Council. And you can't be a prosecutor if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a law license. On the other hand, if

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<v Speaker 1>someone believes on the other side of the fence that

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<v Speaker 1>Joe or Mark Petemer, I think Mark Store was a

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<v Speaker 1>law license. You know, you work hard to get him

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been a lawyer about forty five years, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he wants to keep it. If anything

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<v Speaker 1>they said was false, that the other shoe could drop

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the other side of the fence,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's got the right to freely speak, and the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court recently gave judges the ability to freely speak and

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<v Speaker 1>be held accountable for their for their words. If it

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<v Speaker 1>is false, then either side can come forward and file

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<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit against the other party. Alleging defamation. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible. I think it'd be wasted effort. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't advise Connie Pillach or Sharon Cooliache or top assistant

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<v Speaker 1>on many things.

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<v Speaker 2>But I haven't spoken to them in the months. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I did, I would say let it go. The

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<v Speaker 2>decision has been made. It's over with.

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<v Speaker 1>The case is dismissed with prejudice, means you can't be

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<v Speaker 1>brought again, and it's files to him by common Police

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<v Speaker 1>court judge and it's over. Elwood Jones is free to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is gone. If he would come forward and

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<v Speaker 1>admit to it all right now, nothing would come of

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<v Speaker 1>that either because he's been dismissed with prejudice and double

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<v Speaker 1>jeopardy has attached, so he can't be tried again for

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<v Speaker 1>the murder. And I hope in his seventies he finds

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord in one sense or another. In my faith Catholicism,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to confession or reconciliation, you admit your sins.

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<v Speaker 1>And in my case, once I got a rosary, normally

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<v Speaker 1>I get an our Father of Hell, mayor I did

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<v Speaker 1>some bad things and the years ago I got I

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<v Speaker 1>got a rosary. Is my penance, and I said the Rosary,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm forgiven. So I hope in a sense that

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<v Speaker 1>Elwood Jones can come to griffs with reality and the

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<v Speaker 1>solitude of his mind, apologize, seek forgiveness, and if it's

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<v Speaker 1>sincere and profound, it will be given to Elwood Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other side of the fence, the taxpayers at

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton County are going to pay out millions and millions

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<v Speaker 1>and millions of more dollars because of the wrongful prosecution

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<v Speaker 1>of Elwood Jones, according to the current county prosecutor who's

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<v Speaker 1>the attorney for the Common Police Court judges. So that

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<v Speaker 1>means sometime probably after the first of the year, there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a decision made by maybe Alfonska Hartstein

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<v Speaker 1>or Bill Gallagher or other civil attorneys who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>sue Hamilton County. In other words, you for tens of

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars because the lawyer for the county has

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<v Speaker 1>admitted that the county is liable for civil damages. She

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<v Speaker 1>said he was wrongfully convicted and implied there was a

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<v Speaker 1>there was an intentional motive by Mark Pete Meyer and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Dieters and doing this. In other words, say the

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<v Speaker 1>theory is that they found an innocent man unconnected to

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<v Speaker 1>the murder, and they conjured up evidence that somebody planted

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<v Speaker 1>to make it easy to convict an innocent man with

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<v Speaker 1>the consequence that the guilty person who did this would

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<v Speaker 1>be set free, would not be discovered. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>you have the lawyer for the county who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>write the check, admit the fundamentals of the lawsuit to come,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a big check. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a big number. Maybe not Bengal number, but how

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<v Speaker 1>do you financially compensate someone who spent thirty years on

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<v Speaker 1>death row? Is it fifty thousand bucks a year? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it one hundred thousand bucks a year? That'd be three

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<v Speaker 1>or four million plus the lawyers have to be paid.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ellwood Jones would come a multimillionaire and you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay it goes The lawyer for the county just

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<v Speaker 1>admitted liability, which is something you want to try to avoid.

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<v Speaker 1>So do either parties have possible lawsuits against the other personally?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's possible Elwood Jones could possibly sue Joe

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<v Speaker 1>and Marca. That wouldn't go anywhere. Joe and Marca. The

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<v Speaker 1>family of the Blue Ash cop who was indirectly charged

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<v Speaker 1>with planning evidence in a murder case, won't mention his name.

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<v Speaker 1>Could sue, but at the end of the day, I

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<v Speaker 1>would urge all parties to stand back. Each party had

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<v Speaker 1>their say. County Pillich, whether you like it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the county prosecutor for the next

1:12:41.280 --> 1:12:45.160
<v Speaker 1>three years. And if she runs for reelection, which is likely,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe went another term. Joe Dieter says the six year

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<v Speaker 1>smile on his face. That is he was just elected

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four. He's been a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>most of my life. I was the MC of the

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<v Speaker 1>swearing in ceremonies for the Supreme Court of Ohio. I

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<v Speaker 1>was proud to do that. Spend my buddy a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>We vacations together, talking to the phone probably ten times

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<v Speaker 1>a week. He's my personal friend and I've urged him. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you've had your say. Connie Pilach had her say. Elwood

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<v Speaker 1>Jones is now in his seventies and is free. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's hard to do what It's time to move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait for the next shoe to drop, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit Elwood will have against Hamilton County for wrongfully prosecuting him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're going to write a check as a taxpayer,

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<v Speaker 1>a big check to Elwood Jones. It will pass it on,

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<v Speaker 1>can't spend all the money he's going to have, and

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<v Speaker 1>he'll pass it on to his family in some form.

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<v Speaker 2>Can parties like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Each have fundamentally different opinions on a criminal case. I

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<v Speaker 1>think one side is supported by the facts, the other

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<v Speaker 1>side didn't. That's my personal opinion. That are they capable

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<v Speaker 1>of moving on and saying, Okay, that's it we.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Connie Pillage has a thousand criminal cases. In fact, if

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<v Speaker 1>I counseled her, which I don't, or Sharon Cooliache, the

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<v Speaker 1>great inquiry reporter working with her, I would have said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you got to do this. Because the judge in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, Wendy Cross, is a newbie judge, a liberal

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<v Speaker 1>public defender type. She essentially ordered a new trial. She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't order a neutril not essentially she ordered a new

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<v Speaker 1>trial of Elwood Johnes something all the other twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>or thirty judges that looked at the same evidence said no.

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<v Speaker 1>But if she's the one with the right answer, and

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<v Speaker 1>people that know Wendy Cross. The judge tell me she's

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<v Speaker 1>a good judge, and they tell me she's a nice lady.

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<v Speaker 1>It never met her, likely never will, but she's a judge.

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<v Speaker 1>She can look at it say okay, this guy needs

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<v Speaker 1>a new trial. At that point, Connie Pillage should have said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I got a thousand cases to prosecute.

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<v Speaker 1>The county commissioners want to cut my budget by ten

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<v Speaker 1>p and I got so much to do. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to dismiss the case and let it go. Don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Joe Dieters and Mark p maher cheating. Don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about impugning the character of Joe Dieters and Mark Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Meyer and everyone in that office. Don't talk about withheld evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't talk about new scientific materials which amount to nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Just say, look, I'm busy. I have a thousand cases.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to spend our time on present cases in

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<v Speaker 1>Hamlin County. This one happened in the mid nineteen nineties

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a very young woman. I'm sure she

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<v Speaker 1>is even a lawyer. Then I want to move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I, like Joe said, sitting right there, if she

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<v Speaker 2>would have done that, which is her right she's the

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<v Speaker 2>county prosecutor, she's the chief law enforcement official in Amony County.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the end of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Move on.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree, Joe disses, Mark Petemer disagrees, Seth Tiger disagrees.

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<v Speaker 1>But she is the right and the power to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and she did it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>But she didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>She justified it by throwing dirt on everyone that went before,

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<v Speaker 1>which is unseemly behavior for a prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, uh, that's where we are once again. I know

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<v Speaker 1>they're listening. And if Sharon Coolidge, who worked for years

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the inquiry, great reporter, she's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that broke all the stuff on Cheryl Long, the city manager,

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<v Speaker 1>having filed bankruptcy. The headhunter couldn't find that, but Sharon

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<v Speaker 1>Coolidge did. If they want to come on uh Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>or Friday and have their say, they will. They will

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<v Speaker 1>be accepted as somebody with a different viewpoint, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>come on and you can respond and then move It's

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<v Speaker 1>time I think to move on. The case is over.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing left to right is a check and

1:17:05.080 --> 1:17:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the check will be written by the county commissioners to

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<v Speaker 1>the tune of millions and millions of dollars to compensate

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<v Speaker 1>Edward Jones. Sometime next year of the year after a

1:17:16.439 --> 1:17:18.960
<v Speaker 1>check will be written. And I hope this ends the matter.

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<v Speaker 1>No more revenge, no more retribution, no more time spent

1:17:23.560 --> 1:17:26.720
<v Speaker 1>back and forth, back and forth. Connie Pillach had her say,

1:17:28.040 --> 1:17:32.080
<v Speaker 1>by their standards, they impuged the character and reputation of

1:17:32.240 --> 1:17:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Joe Dieters and Mark Petemeyer and Seth Tiger. They had

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<v Speaker 1>their say, it's over. Stop it except for the check writing.

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<v Speaker 1>Will that happen? I hope, I have hope. And if

1:17:50.640 --> 1:17:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Connie or Sharon Coolidge want to call me, they have

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<v Speaker 1>my cell phone later today, please do we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and move on. It's time to move

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<v Speaker 1>on and don't have retribution and revenge against anyone. There's

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<v Speaker 1>enough present work to do to keep all parties busy,

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<v Speaker 1>including me. But if she wants to talk, ever say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say, thank you Connie, you're the county prosecutor. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish you well in your office. Thank you see you again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it to twenty five Home of the Bengals News

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<v Speaker 1>Radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 14>What's your favorite moment in this Stadium, nineteen fifty Chapters

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<v Speaker 14>of Day in our first year of the NFL.

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<v Speaker 15>I think kick a sixteen yard field goal with about

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<v Speaker 15>twenty seconds of play? What twenty eight twenty sef I

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<v Speaker 15>thirty to twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot, mister Grose.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate.

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<v Speaker 10>Hello. Bye, I'm broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 3>Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just a young fella, but you don't remember Luke Grose.

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<v Speaker 17>He's got an award named after him, Luke Rose place kicker,

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<v Speaker 17>and he played I think off defensive tackle offensive though

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<v Speaker 17>for the Brownies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when the football was football. They went both ways,

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<v Speaker 2>are as men played y a tittle. Those are the guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how about this?

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<v Speaker 1>That was thirty years ago today, the last day that

1:19:18.160 --> 1:19:21.519
<v Speaker 1>the brown Stadium was opened, and I was there on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of a flatbed truck speaking what are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing there? I was invited by uh screaming like a maniacs.

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<v Speaker 9>All I want to say.

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<v Speaker 7>But the fight of that Cleveland Browns today will be

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<v Speaker 7>in the fight of the Cincinnati Bengals tomorrow, the fight

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<v Speaker 7>of the Chicano Bears fans next year, the fight of.

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<v Speaker 8>The Steelers fans.

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<v Speaker 12>You lose this battle, the NFL is gonna lose the

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<v Speaker 12>war and a football fan.

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<v Speaker 10>We'll go to fast the hall place.

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<v Speaker 8>Hell what the NFL and the Browns ever lay Cleveland?

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<v Speaker 7>Different Americans of different branches. The patrons are not in

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<v Speaker 7>Lexington set.

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<v Speaker 2>No to break minute.

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<v Speaker 8>Patrons in World War Two sat heck Goods leading.

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<v Speaker 2>They change the person.

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<v Speaker 9>Go for said Sam, No heart brothers.

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<v Speaker 11>A battle from the heart and soul of America. This

1:20:28.320 --> 1:20:31.040
<v Speaker 11>is a battle for your mom and dads. This is

1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:34.200
<v Speaker 11>a battle for your children. This is a battle from

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<v Speaker 11>the integrity of the American.

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<v Speaker 8>Why you like then we can love can.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 8>You know n may have let the match? What the

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<v Speaker 8>torches burning?

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<v Speaker 7>The one Cineraena Ohio, it's the brown Stone saying Cleveland, Oh, hen's.

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<v Speaker 11>Gonna break loose?

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<v Speaker 1>Go back of a fight to put a plaque? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>where exactly that happened? And you're great speech up in

1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland and at the end of the game, and you

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<v Speaker 1>predicted the NFL is going to go nowhere?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, how about the n f L are gonna like

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<v Speaker 2>what if I way of the Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>That had the one guy with that dog face in

1:21:30.680 --> 1:21:33.600
<v Speaker 1>front of me and then they went to Baltimore. How

1:21:33.600 --> 1:21:39.599
<v Speaker 1>did it work out in Baltimore. Pretty good, Cleveland, Yeah,

1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you think we got problems. Would you rather be a

1:21:42.400 --> 1:21:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Browns fan or a Bengals fan?

1:21:45.320 --> 1:21:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Bengals?

1:21:47.160 --> 1:21:49.719
<v Speaker 1>How about I go in the center with a Buckeyes

1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:52.400
<v Speaker 1>about a Raiders fan or a Bengals fan. Raiders of

1:21:52.439 --> 1:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals, Bengals. How about the Jets or Giants or

1:21:56.800 --> 1:22:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals be that's what. Be happy with what you got,

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<v Speaker 1>know your role.

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<v Speaker 4>And it shut your mouth and at the end, with

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<v Speaker 4>what we're giving you, Matt, they don't ask for much more.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ask And lou Rosa police is interviewed and they're

1:22:12.280 --> 1:22:15.840
<v Speaker 1>tearing apart municipal stadium, the seats and setting out on

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<v Speaker 1>your field.

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<v Speaker 2>Have bonfire started with two minutes to go in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>So were you trying to prevent the Browns from leaving Cleveland? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a Trevizzano and I we're going nuts.

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Browns must stay in Cleveland. How that work out?

1:22:28.080 --> 1:22:31.120
<v Speaker 2>NFL is going to fail if they leave Plus Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing of it is is you look up on

1:22:32.800 --> 1:22:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the TV monitor and it's a beautiful green field on

1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:40.200
<v Speaker 1>TV and you look down on the actual field.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it looked like that that the eighth Army

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<v Speaker 2>was coming through in World War.

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<v Speaker 14>What is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the deal? I mean you couldn't marking anything else.

1:22:52.160 --> 1:22:54.719
<v Speaker 1>People are going nuts or throwing stuff out on the field.

1:22:55.360 --> 1:22:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember the Titans.

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<v Speaker 17>They would spray paint the ground green because of you know,

1:23:00.320 --> 1:23:02.400
<v Speaker 17>by December the ground was all chewed up.

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<v Speaker 2>My predictions were not accurate. Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 1>It's fair to say, are you going to be here

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas morning for the spectacular? Got your family?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, my kid's birthday again. But we can go early.

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>We got Tom, renahand that Scott Sloan, me, you and Eddie,

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<v Speaker 1>the five heads of the five families.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready? I'm ready Christmas morning starting about seven am.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be here now.

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<v Speaker 17>Last year we did the question where one sees one

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<v Speaker 17>segment was supposed to be what was your journey to

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<v Speaker 17>get here to the big point?

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<v Speaker 2>I take the entire show, just take one segment. Show

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<v Speaker 2>exactly right. I got a good segment. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you about the Christmas Day itself. Good save

1:23:46.640 --> 1:23:49.240
<v Speaker 2>it for air. I want to be surprised. Two hours

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<v Speaker 2>are great and I'm you know most of us I

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<v Speaker 2>live close.

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<v Speaker 1>You live out in the in the Kentucky I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you can get there from here,

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<v Speaker 1>and so do my best forty five minutes, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hearing three minutes, so it's gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 17>We're gonna deal with abortion and lethal injection and other

1:24:05.880 --> 1:24:06.800
<v Speaker 17>topics that we've dealt with.

1:24:06.840 --> 1:24:11.360
<v Speaker 1>The more abortion. You gotta talk about the Trump Yes, yes,

1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about the Trump Star. So give me some sports.

1:24:13.960 --> 1:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>And my predictions have not always been accurate. I'm fair

1:24:17.000 --> 1:24:19.599
<v Speaker 1>to say you dis missed that one just by that much.

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<v Speaker 2>HENNFL is gonna amount to nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And Cleveland, the Browns are staying in Cleveland, Art model

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<v Speaker 1>and kiss my ass?

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<v Speaker 2>How'd that work out? Double Super Bowls?

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<v Speaker 2>What will ye?

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<v Speaker 16>Those Miami RedHawks rolled to eleven and oh last night

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<v Speaker 16>as they beat Wright State, Alabama State, and the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 16>Bearcats tonight at six thirty and Jizzle.

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<v Speaker 2>Jane listen up his back Jizzl is busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Gisela is back. He's been added to the roster by

1:25:03.720 --> 1:25:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a head coach Wes Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>Today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he's back. He's a young man. Let's move

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<v Speaker 1>on and keep telling people move on, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the great American.

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<v Speaker 5>Let they move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Led the Cats last year with twelve.

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<v Speaker 17>The past, I don't I don't have repigation, clearly focused

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<v Speaker 17>on the future, in.

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<v Speaker 2>The future, and I don't make any predictions. They played.

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<v Speaker 2>They played Clemson this weekend. Is that crreck?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Cleveland, Brown's play No the Bank Bearcats For Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>Xavier opens Big East play Tonight up against Creighton at

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<v Speaker 1>Sentas Senna and at six pm at fifty five k

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<v Speaker 1>r C Horizon League play Oakland and n k U

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<v Speaker 1>six point thirty on Fox Sports thirteen to sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see Bengals update. The Tua is out, Quinn Ewers is.

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<v Speaker 1>In as the new starter for the Miami Dolphins Sunday again, beloved,

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<v Speaker 1>what about Tua?

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<v Speaker 6>Rock?

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<v Speaker 2>What about Tua? It's hard for.

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<v Speaker 17>Him because he's undersized. It'significantly on your side. Eleven or

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<v Speaker 17>the Bengals got The Bengals gonna have to tee it up.

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<v Speaker 1>College football Ohio UIs Ohio US fired head coach Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Smith for cause today, saying Smith violated his contract by

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<v Speaker 1>engaging in serious professional misconduct and participating in activities that

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<v Speaker 1>reflect unfavorably on the university aka sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only to predict something, it's either sex or money,

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<v Speaker 2>generly sex.

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<v Speaker 16>Bobcats won eight and four in his first season as coach,

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<v Speaker 16>defense bacte penetration. Defensive coordinator John Houser will be named

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<v Speaker 16>interim coach. The ou Bobcats will take on U N

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<v Speaker 16>l V in the Frisco Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>You doing that one? Noting that we got six or five?

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<v Speaker 2>December twenty third. What about if Jimmy Burrow is still

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<v Speaker 2>the decordinator in Ohio? He might take over and rule

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<v Speaker 2>with an iron grip. You go, He's not there? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that the brother? He says?

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<v Speaker 5>His dad?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, his father is still He was? No,

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<v Speaker 2>he was, he was.

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<v Speaker 17>He could go back to Ohio for years, many years

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<v Speaker 17>I covered the head coach. Possibly, he's probably having a

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<v Speaker 17>pretty good time now just watching his son.

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Zach Schuler right now, looks like his contracts through

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seventy seven. Now, why would the Bengals after

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC Championship game was that in twenty two that

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<v Speaker 1>they lost, they reupted into another five years, right, Why

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't they announce that?

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<v Speaker 2>Would anybody have a problem with it? The Bengals, They

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<v Speaker 2>don't do things like that, But why not?

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<v Speaker 17>Is there not some value in seeing what the best

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<v Speaker 17>companies do and doing that at least a little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>No nothing, making no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep quiet, don't take care of your customers, don't shovel

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<v Speaker 1>the seats, Just dust off the snow to the guy

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you. Sit there on a home city

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<v Speaker 1>ice and just sit there and freeze your testicles and

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<v Speaker 1>know your role and shut your mouth and don't complain

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<v Speaker 1>because next year things you're gonna be any of the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing.

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<v Speaker 17>You can think about it, but don't do it. That's

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<v Speaker 17>why Joe Burrow last week was so sullen. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 17>the current situation. It wasn't like, Okay, we're probably not

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<v Speaker 17>gonna make the playoffs. It was knowing looking ahead, knowing

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<v Speaker 17>it's not going to get better. That's when you lose

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<v Speaker 17>all hope. When you know things you're not going to

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<v Speaker 17>get better, hope. That's What he realized is what Bengals

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<v Speaker 17>fans are.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no hope. Do you have hope? Do you have hope?

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<v Speaker 2>I always have hope. Say do you have hope? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's gonna next win a championship?

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go every day, every day, the Reds World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>Won't you ask yourself this and then we'll and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll respond. You see Bearcats win a national basketball title

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<v Speaker 1>or third or Bengals win a super Bowl? Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>putch one. FC wins the MLS. That's down in there too,

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<v Speaker 1>f C.

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<v Speaker 3>You f C.

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<v Speaker 1>Name with the Reds because got the playoffs. All they

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<v Speaker 1>had to do was beat l A in l A

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<v Speaker 1>two or three games. That's all they had to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Or some high school team wins a state check football

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<v Speaker 1>championship around here.

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<v Speaker 17>Way so, by the way, So the Reds couldn't afford Schwarmer, right,

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<v Speaker 17>but they had a significant amount of money they're gonna give?

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<v Speaker 17>Are they gonna then take that same amount of money

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<v Speaker 17>and divvy it out the other free agents that are

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<v Speaker 17>not Kyle Schwarmer.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the players are arbitration eligible. They got

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<v Speaker 1>to save the twenty mil from Martinez.

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<v Speaker 17>We're talking a bunch of nonsense. Are they gonna spend

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<v Speaker 17>money and get good players?

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you? What's on the show? I don't know? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have hope? You winning a national basketball title? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that good? My name's West. Don't get me in this mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Rock, we gotta run, Rock.

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<v Speaker 10>What do you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what you have today? Or yeah we do.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Grace Tucker from the Inquirer right out of

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<v Speaker 2>the gate.

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<v Speaker 4>We got Trags at four o'clock talking about the Bengals

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<v Speaker 4>in the current situation, and much much more.

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<v Speaker 2>Sake, give me out of sous You're core, will you?

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<v Speaker 16>And honor of a nice day here at a tri

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<v Speaker 16>State What's next? We leave you with the immortal words

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<v Speaker 16>of the Stood Report.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got some wise words for that Cincinnati mayor.

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<v Speaker 12>Ain't no joke?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that one? Operation Repo one of the greatest shows

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<v Speaker 2>ever on television. It's Tete Pregnant. No, you predicted that

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<v Speaker 2>a while back and it did not come true. She

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<v Speaker 2>has to get married, is what I say. She has

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<v Speaker 2>her own private island. By the way, you see this,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go, let's go, let's call, let's go, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>on seven hundred WL. Don't you