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Speaker 2: interesting guests. This first eight o'clock hour, we'll be talked

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Speaker 2: with Emily Sweeney or the Boston Globe. She's the Cold

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Speaker 2: professional dancer from Cirque de Solet, Micah Meka Dubuk will

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Speaker 2: talk with a senior vice president of Comcast New England

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Speaker 2: Region about the Comcast Rise program. It's a great program.

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Speaker 2: name is doctor bron Wennet Carroll, and one in ten

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Speaker 2: Globe Cold Case Files reporter. Emily, you have come up

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Speaker 3: is really frustrating and sad. It involves a teenager, Jennifer

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Speaker 2: How did this case come to your attention? Because this

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Speaker 3: Solvable, right, you know, when she disappeared that that night,

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Speaker 2: You know, given me why, I'm just curious why in

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Speaker 2: that these cases occur and time passes and parents die

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Speaker 2: it just seems that there's that moment in time, the

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Speaker 2: than fifty. It's these are tough stories, tough stories, Emily,

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Speaker 2: and we thank you for doing them again. Well, remind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Cold Case Files newsletter. You could subscribe

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Speaker 3: and you know, try to spread the word about these cases,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's let's let's hope that they get a break.

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Speaker 2: That's that's all they need, is just one piece of information.

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Speaker 2: At this point, I'm sure that who knows, whoever might

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Speaker 2: have you know, done something to her that night. They

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Speaker 2: you so much. You have a great weekend and happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope you have a great Thanksgiving. Dan, thanks

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Speaker 3: for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, gentle, appreciate it. When we get back,

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Speaker 2: we're going to change topics and talk about the Circle

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Speaker 2: to Sole, a wonderful experience that comes to Boston periodically.

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Speaker 2: my name is Dan Ray. That was a sad story.

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Speaker 2: That's a sad story, but we'll lift your spirits a

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Speaker 2: Back on Nightside right after this.

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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, Christmas is around the corner. Actually, Thanksgiving is around

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Speaker 2: performance by the Cirqua Solat. The show opens at the

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Speaker 2: through December fourteenth. It's called Twas the Night Before, based upon,

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Speaker 2: of course, the poem the classic poem A Visit from

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Speaker 2: Saint Nicholas with Us is Micah Dubuque, a professional dancer

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Speaker 2: with Sark de Sole. Micah. I hope I've pronounced that

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Speaker 4: No, you're right, Mikah Davout, that's my name.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for confirming that we finally

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Speaker 4: Well, there's six dancers in the show, and we are

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Speaker 2: Wow. Now a show like this, is this one that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so the show actually started in twenty nineteen, So

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Speaker 2: So when I'm always curious, I know more about sports

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Speaker 2: Now, since this is a show that is themed for

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Speaker 4: Well, since this is Circus Oway's only Christmas show, it

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's let's get a good plug here.

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Speaker 2: It is at the Bok Center Wang Theater. Have you

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Speaker 2: Well, you like it a lot, did you? Grow up

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Speaker 2: Very nice to meet.

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Speaker 2: Very welcome. Congratulations on this show. I know a lot

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Speaker 2: She's a senior vice president for Comcast New England Region

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Speaker 2: and Comcast, through their Rise program, has held an event

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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back everyone. Comcast has a program it's

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Speaker 2: is Caroline Caroline excuse me, Caroline Hennon, I got that right, correct, Caroline,

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Speaker 2: you did. Thanks so much, Dan, Senior Vice President of

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Speaker 6: Okay, that sounds great. So you know, first of all,

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Speaker 2: Now, how many years has Comcast been doing this or

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Speaker 6: Oh, this is actually our fifth year. We started back

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Speaker 2: So do you do this every year in Boston or

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Speaker 2: Give that my listeners a sense of the variety of

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Speaker 6: Exactly. Some of them are brick and mortar, some of

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Speaker 6: Many of them had family members with them. They were

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Speaker 2: So will you now does a Comcast work with them

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So we've already started partnering with each recipient. They

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Speaker 6: So we've one interesting story where we heard last night

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Speaker 2: Now, this I assume is the first year of the

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Speaker 6: Because it is it made it extra exciting for all

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Speaker 2: Okay, and how has it if there were four other

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Speaker 6: You know, that's such a great question, Dan, and they've

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Speaker 6: sixty approach to approaching their business, and so it really

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Speaker 6: does give them a leg up. We all know that

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Speaker 6: opening a small business, you know, can be risky, and

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Speaker 6: not all of them make it. But we have a

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Speaker 6: really really good track record with these recipients. We also

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Speaker 6: stay in touch with them. It's not one and done.

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Speaker 6: This is what I've heard from other recipients from years

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Speaker 6: ago that the Rise team is still in touch with them,

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Speaker 6: checking in how are you doing? You know. So it's

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Speaker 6: really an exciting thing to be a part of something

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Speaker 6: I'm very very proud of as an executive. But Comcast, well.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly what a big company like Comcast do

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Speaker 2: to help people along the way. It's a great program.

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Speaker 2: I remember we talked about it in September. You gave

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Speaker 2: us a really clear explanation of it tonight, and I

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Speaker 2: just again thank Comcasts for on behalf of all of

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Speaker 2: these winners, and hopefully all of them will be successful

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Speaker 2: and they'll look back last night and the ceremony as

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Speaker 2: such a critical night in the development of their business.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a great effort. I wish more bigger

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Speaker 2: businesses out there would invest some time and help out

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Speaker 2: some of the smaller businesses, because obviously small business has

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Speaker 2: always been the backbone of America. We always think about

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Speaker 2: the big companies, you know, like Comcasts and others. But

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Speaker 2: on that pyramid there are a few big companies like

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Speaker 2: Comcasts at the top of the pyramid, and at the

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Speaker 2: base of the pyramid are all of these small businesses.

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Speaker 2: Mom and pop stores, but Daego's barbershops, you know, vetinarys,

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Speaker 2: you know veterinary clinics. They are what really does make

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Speaker 2: the country work and the country grow. And thanks very

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Speaker 2: much on behalf of all the winners. And I hope

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Speaker 2: that it gets back to Boston pretty soon. It will

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Speaker 2: be a few years. I'm sure that before would ever

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Speaker 2: get back here. But it sounds like you had a

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Speaker 2: great night last night, and I thank you for joining

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Speaker 2: us tonight. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you for your interest in the Rise program

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Speaker 6: and for having me on tonight. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure. Okay, thank you, thank you much. We'll talk so

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Speaker 2: thank you very much when we get back. A tougher

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Speaker 2: topic to discuss, and we're going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: fact that one in ten children children being defined as

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Speaker 2: anyone under the age of eighteen, experienced sexual abuse before

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Speaker 2: the age of eighteen, making sexual abuse a more common

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Speaker 2: affliction than any other childhood illness or injury that parents,

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Speaker 2: of course routinely deal with. And we'll get talking with

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Speaker 2: doctor ron Wynn Carrol. She's a mother of for but

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Speaker 2: she's also a pediatric medicine physician at Boston Medical. She's

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Speaker 2: written a new book. We need to be talking about this,

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Speaker 2: that's the name of the book. We will be talking

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Speaker 2: with doctor Brown and Carolyn Carol right after this quick

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Speaker 2: break on Nightside.

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Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.

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Speaker 2: Delighted to welcome to Nightside doctor Bronwin Carroll. She's the

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Speaker 2: mother of four pediatric emergency medicine physician at Boston Medical Center,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Carroll, Welcome to Nightside.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about a tough subject, and that

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Speaker 2: is that ten percent of children experience sexual abuse before

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Speaker 2: the age of eighteen. I'm sure from many, many sources,

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Speaker 2: both in and out of the family, but is the

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Speaker 2: more I guess is it's more common than any other

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Speaker 2: childhood illness or injury. To me, that's a stunning statistic.

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Speaker 2: You have written a book we need to talk to

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Speaker 2: be talking about this. I haven't read your book, but

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Speaker 2: I did look at some of the promotions, and this

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Speaker 2: is something that you never thought you'd write a book about.

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Speaker 5: No, not at all. I really fell into this by accident.

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Speaker 5: So as a pediatric er doctor, of course, I do

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Speaker 5: see children who've been sexually assaulted and sexually abused, and

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Speaker 5: as a mom at home, I spoke to my own

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Speaker 5: kids about staying safe, but I never thought about it

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Speaker 5: beyond that. Then, earlier this year, my daughter's teacher in

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Speaker 5: Cambridge was arrested for a possession of child sexual abuse materials,

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Speaker 5: and after that happened, the head of school asked me

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Speaker 5: to speak at a community forum for parents to talk about,

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Speaker 5: how do you explain this teacher's arrest to kids? So

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Speaker 5: I did that and afterwards those.

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Speaker 2: How did you do that? Because I talk about such.

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Speaker 5: A betrayal of us, absolutely, And one of the big

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Speaker 5: problems is that this term has entered into the parenting

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Speaker 5: lexicon of quote unquote trusted adult. And the problem is

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Speaker 5: is this teacher was a quote unquote trusted adult until

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Speaker 5: the moment of his arrest, and so how do you

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Speaker 5: break this down for kids? So I spoke to parents

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Speaker 5: about just speaking to kids about sexual abuse, generally, speaking

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Speaker 5: to kids about pornography, speaking to kids about child sexual abuse, imagery,

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Speaker 5: because the problem is is that large numbers of kids

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Speaker 5: are exposed to pornography on the internet, either intentionally or not.

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Speaker 5: So I spoke about all these subjects, and afterwards I

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Speaker 5: was just inundated with messages from parents and they all

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Speaker 5: said a version of the same thing, which was that

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Speaker 5: nobody had ever spoken to them about any of this before.

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Speaker 5: And so I sort of had this realization that it

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Speaker 5: seemed impossible that as a culture, we were not speaking

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Speaker 5: to parents, giving guidance or even talking about really the

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Speaker 5: biggest serious threat the kids face. And after I had

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Speaker 5: that sort of aha moment. I couldn't just go back

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Speaker 5: to business as usual.

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Speaker 2: So you've written the book. I assume the book is available,

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Speaker 2: although this obviously.

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Speaker 5: Not yet. Not yet, Okay, here's I've learned a lot

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Speaker 5: this year. I've learned, among other things, publishing. It's quite slow.

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Speaker 2: The book.

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Speaker 5: The book will be out at some point.

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five Nike activity in ers when you're probably dealing with

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Speaker 2: five patients time, sometimes simultaneously. It's it's a different pace

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Speaker 2: in publishing. So when will we likely be able to

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Speaker 2: put our hands on the book.

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Speaker 5: I am guessing in twenty twenty seven, would be my guest.

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Speaker 5: But in the meantime, you know, I do feel a

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Speaker 5: sense of urgency about this because the unfortunate reality is

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Speaker 5: of incense born in the United States in twenty two.

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Speaker 5: It's estimated that probably around three hundred thousand of them

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Speaker 5: will be sexually assaulted in the next eighteen years. So

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Speaker 5: I don't particularly want to wait around for, as you say,

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Speaker 5: the publishing industry, which is not the speediest apparently, And

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Speaker 5: so I am trying to provide other resources to parents,

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Speaker 5: and so I have articles in psychology today and actually

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Speaker 5: the Sun Sentinel newspaper in Florida published an op ed

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Speaker 5: this week. There was an article in the huff Post,

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Speaker 5: and all of that can be found on my website.

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Speaker 5: I am new to social media, not really my thing,

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Speaker 5: but I recently did join Instagram, and there I provide

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Speaker 5: reels with talking points for parents and written scripts for

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Speaker 5: how parents can have these tough conversations.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's great, and that's important to get information a

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Speaker 2: lot of parents, even though and I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you're from Boston originally or not, not that it matters,

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Speaker 2: but we had the big pedophile pre scandal with the

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Speaker 2: Catholic ch yes Boston that really broke yest nineties, and

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Speaker 2: uh it has you know, it has just shocked people

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Speaker 2: that again, you know, Catholic priests were involved in this.

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Speaker 2: We find out now that there are other clergymen from

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Speaker 2: men and women I guess from from other religions. And

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Speaker 2: we we read all the time about teachers and trusted individuals.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about a couple of your website locations.

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Speaker 2: So you're on Instagram that you're easy to find on Instagram?

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Speaker 5: Where else I am? I have a website so it's

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Speaker 5: Bronwyn Carol m D b r O n w e

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Speaker 5: n c A r r O l l m D.

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Speaker 5: That's on Instagram, that's on TikTok, and that is also

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Speaker 5: my website. So it's one thing to remember. It's easy

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Speaker 5: to find, you know. As you pointed out, children are

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Speaker 5: overwhelmingly assaulted by people who they know, and it is

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Speaker 5: you ually, the trusted priest, the friendly teacher, the beloved coach,

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Speaker 5: the you know, esteemed member of the community. And the

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Speaker 5: bad news is that those people are everywhere, so you

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Speaker 5: may not you know, you're not going to recognize them necessarily.

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Speaker 5: I always say that the biggest threat to your kids

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Speaker 5: may be the nicest guy you know. But the good

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Speaker 5: news is is child predators are like a football team

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Speaker 5: that keeps winning with a single play, and it's like

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Speaker 5: nobody's bothered to watch the tapes to figure that out.

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Speaker 5: So if we can just teach parents and kids to

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Speaker 5: recognize and defend the child predator play, we can really

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Speaker 5: make the world a safer place for kids.

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Speaker 2: I am just going to do with your permission, just

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Speaker 2: go over the website one more time, so it's braun

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Speaker 2: sure and so it's b r w E N and

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Speaker 2: then the last name is Carol C A R R

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Speaker 2: O L L with MD at the end obviously indicating

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Speaker 2: doctor and it's dot com or or what is it?

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Speaker 5: Yep dot com? Bronwyncarrol MD dot com.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and there you empower parents to protect children. Here's

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Speaker 2: just a couple of questions. I've been through the parenting thing.

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Speaker 2: My children are in their thirties now, but we have

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Speaker 2: two grandchildren, a little boy who's three and a half

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Speaker 2: and a baby granddaughter who is just seven months old.

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Speaker 2: So can't talk to the baby granddaughter yet. But what

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Speaker 2: should I or what should their parents be doing with

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Speaker 2: the three and a half year When is it too

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Speaker 2: early to talk? And when when is it too late?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 5: So here's actually what I would say that you your

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Speaker 5: kids should do. You should talk to the baby granddaughter,

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Speaker 5: not because she's going to understand anything that you're saying,

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Speaker 5: but because it gives parents practice saying hard things. And

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Speaker 5: the three and a half year old is listening. So

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Speaker 5: the easiest place to start is with bodily autonomy. And

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Speaker 5: so while you're giving the baby girl a bath, probably

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Speaker 5: her big brother is playing nearby, and you talk about

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Speaker 5: how I'm giving you a bath because I'm your mom,

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Speaker 5: and we're going to keep you clean. But your body

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Speaker 5: is for you, it's not for anybody else. That's it simple.

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Speaker 5: We start there, then the next thing, and the three

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Speaker 5: and a half year old is old enough to begin this.

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Speaker 5: This is the single. If you're only going to give

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Speaker 5: your kids one message, what it should be is that

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Speaker 5: adults do not ask kids to keep secrets. Now, a

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Speaker 5: secret is different from a surprise. With a surprise, the

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Speaker 5: person's going to find out and be happy. So a

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Speaker 5: surprise is baking Daddy a cake for his birthday. Secrets

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Speaker 5: are different. With a secret, the person's never supposed to

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Speaker 5: find out, and if they did, they presumably wouldn't be happy.

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Speaker 5: So for child predators to succeed, they need three things.

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Speaker 5: They need access to a child, they need compliance from

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Speaker 5: the child, and they need to maintain secrecy. So if

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Speaker 5: kids just learned from an early age and we make

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Speaker 5: this a cultural norm that adults don't ask kids to

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Speaker 5: keep secrets, we can right there start keeping kids safer.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that was a brilliant presentation in less

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Speaker 2: than a minute, I think everyone can absorb it again.

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Speaker 2: The website very simple b rn W E N BRON

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Speaker 2: When Carol c R R L L with an MD

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Speaker 2: dot com. I will look forward to having you back.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have you back some night and spend an

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Speaker 2: hour and take phone calls from listeners.

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Speaker 5: If that would work for you, I would love that.

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Speaker 5: I want to spread the word, and I so appreciate

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Speaker 5: your supporting me in getting this message out there.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great, Doctor Carroll, appreciate it. Hope you and your

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Speaker 2: family have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: Enjoy those grandchildren.

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Speaker 2: I sure will. When we get back, we're going to

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Speaker 2: be talking with an attorney from Boston. She's been on

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Speaker 2: the show before. You know where is Wendy Attorney Wendy Murphy,

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Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about a piece of legislation

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Speaker 2: and that she believes is very dangerous at the legislature.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on night Side right after the nine

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