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Speaker 1: talk station, Happy Monday, Happy Monday. Some say, will a vacation?

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Speaker 1: I mean war man wow, war you know wow? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you read my mind, Jes Strecker. I was looking for

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Speaker 1: that SoundBite from one Ona Ryder. Send it to you

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. Yes, welcome into the morning show, Happy

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Speaker 1: Monday to you. Try to make it so anyway, and yes,

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Speaker 1: we're at war apparently. Uh, it's kind of interesting when

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Speaker 1: I woke up on Saturday morning and realized that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump haud go ahead and given the authorization to join

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Speaker 1: with Israel and start, you know, bombing the crap out

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Speaker 1: of it. Wrong. That's kind of what I said on

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Speaker 1: Friday too, I think was David Taylor. I suggested, you know, well,

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Speaker 1: if you've going to vote on the War Powers Resolution

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Speaker 1: next week, what if Donald Trump just launches the military

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Speaker 1: action over the weekend and gets ahead of it. Well

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Speaker 1: that's what happened. I don't know how much of that

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Speaker 1: went into the calculus Donald Trump. And they're still planning

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Speaker 1: on having over War Powers resolution vote, although it's noted

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Speaker 1: given the narrow Republican margins in the House and several

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Speaker 1: Republicans have already suggested they would vote for a war

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Speaker 1: powers resolution limiting or carving the authority Trump has, remember

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Speaker 1: the veto power. Yeah, and they won't have enough votes

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Speaker 1: to override a presidential veto. So here we are, here,

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Speaker 1: we are two three talk to pound five fifty on

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Speaker 1: they were think of your audience. I mean, you're in

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Speaker 1: the middle of these negotiations. And Donald Trump had said, listen,

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Speaker 1: if we don't solve something by way of a peaceful resolution,

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Speaker 1: which meant, of course, Ron had to get rid of

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Speaker 1: al the nuclear weapons and long range missiles and everything.

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Speaker 1: Ron kept saying no, no, no, no, And at some

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Speaker 1: point they walk out. Third round of talks is get

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Speaker 1: you know, is pending or coming up, and then Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump goes ahead. Now that's just the reality of where

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Speaker 1: we are. But what the hell is the iatola thinking?

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Speaker 1: Whose bright idea was it to get together with all

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Speaker 1: the top leadership at one specific place and have a picnic. Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's no way they're gonna do anything about this. Haven't

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Speaker 1: we demonstrated, I mean all the way back to I

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Speaker 1: don't know even Clinton, I guess, but you know, Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama launched rocket strikes on individuals killed terrorists. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we do this almost on a regular basis, and we're

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Speaker 1: gotting pretty damn good at it. He didn't see what

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Speaker 1: happened in Venezuela with that real unbelievable strike. Zip in,

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Speaker 1: zip out. We know exactly where the president is. Let's

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Speaker 1: go in and get him. Let's pull him out and

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Speaker 1: take it back and try in the states man past

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Speaker 1: the hummus blam, is that what you said? You just

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Speaker 1: sitting rout of the picnic? Could I have some more

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Speaker 1: baba ganoosh and then vaporization? Okay? And springing from that

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Speaker 1: sort of scratch your head moment, and I listen, at least,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna wage your war, you gotta call that

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Speaker 1: one a huge victory, at least a battle one. Let's see,

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Speaker 1: within an hour or like twenty four hours of the

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Speaker 1: of the first bombs being dropped, you have wiped out

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Speaker 1: all of the top leadership in Iran. I'd say that's

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Speaker 1: a military victory if there river was one anyway, then

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Speaker 1: pivoting over you, Okay, So you're what's left of the

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Speaker 1: leadership in Iran and you get to you get to

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Speaker 1: make the decisions. What is your response? Huh? Some might

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Speaker 1: suggest launching missiles into literally every country that is surrounding you,

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Speaker 1: withstanding they whether or not they have some sort of

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Speaker 1: neutrality relative to the Iran and the Iranian actions. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they don't like you, But in the final analysis, striking

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Speaker 1: turned out to be. This is not the reaction the

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Speaker 1: Iranian regime was expecting. They responded by striking at least

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Speaker 1: nine countries around the Middle East. The apparent calculation, at

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Speaker 1: least into the analysis by the Wall Street Journal Tehrlan

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Speaker 1: targeting all these monarchies, these rich neighborhoods, the well oil

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Speaker 1: producing neighbors, Tehran could force Washington Israel into rapid de escalations.

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Speaker 1: What would happen if all the countries that god bombed

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Speaker 1: by Iran actually responded the way Iran expected, which is

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Speaker 1: to criticize the United States of America. And there was

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Speaker 1: by squeezing the oil shipments of the Strait of Horn Moves,

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Speaker 1: They're expecting oil to go between nineteen and one hundred

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Speaker 1: The oil, but also tourism was brought up multiple times.

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Speaker 1: it's agreed that the calculus seem to have backfired. Golf

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Speaker 1: infrastructure has been hit by the Iranians. They have decided

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Speaker 1: that well, the Iranians have to be targeted. Let's see

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Speaker 1: if we can change the administration in Iran and give

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Speaker 1: us some sense of peace. These people, I think the

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Speaker 1: Arab nations have finally realized, are batcrap insane. According to

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Speaker 1: Anwar Gargash, the diplomatic advisor to the United Arab Emirates President,

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Speaker 1: he said, Iran is coming to the countries and the

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Speaker 1: actually your number one threat. This has long term implications

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Speaker 1: regardless of whoever is actually empowering in Iran. Targeting Golf

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Speaker 1: to agree with that Iran hit all six of the

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Speaker 1: the mood changed once the run of Iranian responds targeted

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Speaker 1: So there's all these different problems with problems that are

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Speaker 1: shared by the Iranians. How long can they continue to

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Speaker 1: Now development Europe. What do you think they're saying in Europe?

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Speaker 1: It's listener launch this Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: Oh there's all kinds of theories out there, isn't there.

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Speaker 5: So you know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that this really has refreshed our collective

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Speaker 1: And during the polygraph he estimated he did this well,

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Speaker 1: He was freed from custody after a sixty five thousand

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Speaker 1: She was arrested for aggravated assault the deadly weapon, which

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Speaker 1: of surprised that anybody would characterize the jar of pickles

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Speaker 1: those who participated in the well who bought bourbon tickets

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Speaker 1: for example, and everything else. Back over to the stack

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Speaker 1: and stupid. We have an ex con back in trouble

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Speaker 1: a frozen coffee beverage h Daniel Abramowitz, twenty nine years

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Speaker 1: old class if it's the the frappe that he threw

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Speaker 1: at the McDonald's drive through worker. Now it's classified as

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Speaker 1: a felony because his rap sheet includes a prior domestic

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Speaker 6: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.

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Speaker 1: Police arrested them in connection with the January thirty first

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Speaker 1: Them impact contents landed on the victim's facial region, hair

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Speaker 1: how a cop would describe face right cord to police.

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Speaker 1: The battery was recorded by surveillance camera, shocking no one.

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Speaker 1: The victim identified as Abramowitz as the assailant. In addition

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Speaker 1: multiple items on his rap sheet. Criminal history includes other

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Speaker 1: No Angel heat go to Atlanta, Georgia. One's been charged

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Speaker 1: You Angel Thompson had died on more than eighty counts

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Speaker 1: by the Fulton County Grand Jury, including malice, murder, felony murder,

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Speaker 1: aggravated assault, concealing a death, and dozens of accounts related

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Speaker 1: to fraud and identity theft. She's been accused of killing

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Speaker 1: a twenty four year old Nicole Alston. Her body was

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Speaker 1: found the intersection inside of a burning black bag. Her head, hands,

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Speaker 1: She said for eight years she collected Social Security benefits

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Speaker 1: of the fraud two hundred thousand dollars a cording to

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Speaker 1: the Sheriff's office. And finally, this is rather interesting. We

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Speaker 1: go to Lake Worth Beach, Florida traffic stop, gaining attention

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Speaker 1: because of viral video. The woman was cited for using

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Speaker 1: that one. It's like one hundred and sixteen dollars civil penalty,

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Speaker 1: but the it sparked a debate and as soon to

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Speaker 1: driving laws enforced the citation? Is she by the palm

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Speaker 1: beach kind of. SHARE's office said that she was driving

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Speaker 1: using a handheld device while driving, which is in violation

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Speaker 1: of a Florida statue. TikTok video which has gone viral.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, the driver recorded the stop and questioned

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Speaker 1: the deputy's observation. Citation specifically indicates the deputy observed the

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Speaker 1: handheld device while she was traveling northbound on the highway,

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Speaker 1: which says in the citation the device was in her

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Speaker 1: right hand. Fine, she doesn't have one, Yeah, that's why

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Speaker 1: she's challenging it in the citation. In court it was

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Speaker 1: you know, it's facially defective. One can make that argument.

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Speaker 1: Now the police are saying it doesn't matter which hand

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Speaker 1: she was driving around using the device, but specifically you

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Speaker 1: suppose with only one hand. Maybe she's going to argue

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Speaker 1: that she was not. If driver can tests the ticket,

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a right hand five fifty six to

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Speaker 1: fifty five KR City Talk Station. Feel free to call me.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot going on in the six o'clock

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Speaker 1: hour and so, including some you know, constitutional analysis on

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Speaker 1: the launching of the strikes against Iran, the War Powers

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Speaker 1: Act that's being implicated as well, and of course the

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Speaker 1: history of Iran's activities against us. Is the strike justified

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Speaker 1: and lawful? That was going to be a vote descent

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Speaker 1: station at six oh six here fifty five car City

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Speaker 1: Talk Station, Brian townas pushing every one very happy Monday,

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Speaker 1: just Jrecker as Worrey belongs and the executive producer Booth

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Speaker 1: and I still have a phone number you can call.

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Speaker 1: I got CJ on the line to talk five one three, seven,

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Speaker 1: have the war to talk about, lots of issues regarding that,

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Speaker 1: but don't What were you doing on the DJ Fresh

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Speaker 1: celebration day in Cincinnati, Joe? Did you have a party

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Speaker 1: and honor that? I know I have to provol issued

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Speaker 1: a proclamation declaring Friday DJ Fresh Day. And you're like,

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Speaker 1: who in the hell is DJ Fresh? I know you

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Speaker 1: happen to be the one of the acts or the

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Speaker 1: act performing Saturday night at the Riverfront Live when gunshot erupted.

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Speaker 1: There were like five to six hundred people there and

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Speaker 1: nine people got shot. One of them is in critical condition,

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Speaker 1: so great. Fortunately it is not suggested it is a

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Speaker 1: terrorism act like it was in the deadly Austin shooting.

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Speaker 1: And I know that the counter terrorism experts are saying, well,

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Speaker 1: now that we started blowing up Aroun and we killed

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Speaker 1: the Ayatola and the top officials, parenthetical, don't gather together

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Speaker 1: with everyone in your cabinet and all of your top

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Speaker 1: officials in one spot when Donald Trump is president. But

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Speaker 1: that I guess they didn't get the memo on that one. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Over in Austin, a gunman was apparently a naturalized citizen

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Speaker 1: and his opening fire resulted in fourteen people wounded in

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Speaker 1: three people dead, and the police are suggesting that maybe

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Speaker 1: is terrorism and FBI is involved in looking at he

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Speaker 1: is wearing clothing that said Allah on it and apparently

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Speaker 1: an undershirt that featured the Iranian flag started squeezing off rounds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they are popular, Joe, and he probably had a cheg

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Speaker 1: Wavara shirt underneath that one anyway, first started firing rounds

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Speaker 1: out of his suv with a handgun, and he got

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Speaker 1: out of his suv and started squeezing off rounds with

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Speaker 1: a rifle, and then the police well dispatched him. They

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Speaker 1: were there in moments of time, So salute to the police.

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Speaker 1: Without further deo, let's jump over to the phone. So

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Speaker 1: what CJ's got this morning, CJ, thanks for calling. Welcome

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Speaker 7: Oh, good morning to you, and I hope you had

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Speaker 7: a RESTful but also it was full of news.

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Speaker 5: For you all week.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I woke up Saturday morning and I

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Speaker 1: was like, okay, yeah, half of me expected it when

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Speaker 1: I went to bed, just because of Donald getting ahead

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Speaker 1: of the war powers vote, which is still going to

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Speaker 1: go on, and I'm certain we'll be unsuccessful, giving the

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Speaker 1: veto power already has. But yeah, I woke up and

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Speaker 1: it was like my heart sunk. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: like war. I hope no one likes war. And I

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Speaker 1: appreciate all the arguments in favor of bombing the Iranians.

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Speaker 1: We've got a history in them and it's demonstrable that

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Speaker 1: they are evil and terrible, and I love the fact

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Speaker 1: that all these Arab nations are now on our side

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Speaker 1: because Iran, what did they do? They started bombing all

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Speaker 1: the Arab nations in addition to our bases. They were

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Speaker 1: hitting civilian targets, like what, well, the Arab nations are

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Speaker 1: on our side, So that was a miscalculations anyway.

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Speaker 7: And notice that they have not yet hit and I

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Speaker 7: wasn't gonna mention this. It not yet hit Turkey yet.

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Speaker 7: And there's a reason for that because then if they

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Speaker 7: hit Turkey, it does instantly create an Article five situation

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Speaker 7: in which all of NATO then has to come to the.

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Speaker 5: Defense of Turkey.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and they do not want to mess with the

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Speaker 7: Turkish army because then they know that Turkey will send

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Speaker 7: ground troops in they And so the Iranians, while they

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Speaker 7: have been shown some lack of logic in some of

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Speaker 7: their attacks, they are acting logical towards Turkey and Azerbaijan,

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Speaker 7: which is also to the north that has a very

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Speaker 7: close relationship with Israel as well. So it is quite

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Speaker 7: interesting as to where they're attacking Muslim nations versus where

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Speaker 7: they're not. Saudi Arabian UAE does not have a great

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Speaker 7: ground force, so they don't feel threatened from that. Their

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Speaker 7: air forces are very good, but they're not very strong

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Speaker 7: with the ground forces. But what I was going to

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Speaker 7: call about is this on the War Powers Act. I

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Speaker 7: think Trump is going to be in the clear because

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Speaker 7: he did notify the beginning of eight and Congress, which

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Speaker 7: covers him there.

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Speaker 5: He also.

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Speaker 7: He also can come back to the fact that he

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Speaker 7: said multiple attempts on his life from the Iranian leadership himself.

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Speaker 7: He has also had a If you think back to

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Speaker 7: twenty fifteen, the Iranians.

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Speaker 5: Took a US naval ship.

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Speaker 7: And Obama rewarded them with almost fifty six billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: I never could figure it out and loads of money.

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Speaker 7: He gave them loads of money, saying, hey, this is

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Speaker 7: going to help the Iranian economy, And all it did

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Speaker 7: was helpamas Hezballah created the Lutis and all this others

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Speaker 7: and made that missile ballistic system crazily good, and it

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Speaker 7: allowed Iran to sell oil at.

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Speaker 5: A cheap discount to China.

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Speaker 7: I think in reality here this is all about China,

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Speaker 7: is that while we may hate war, we may hate

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Speaker 7: all of this, is that by doing this, it is

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Speaker 7: going to cripple the ability of China to get cheap

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Speaker 7: oil and gas in the future from.

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Speaker 1: Iran, because it it all comes, it all comes to

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Speaker 1: the straight of horror moves, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And even the stuff that they don't get through the

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Speaker 7: straight of hor moods from Iran, They're not going to

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Speaker 7: have access to it anymore.

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Speaker 5: And so that oil is going to become a lot

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Speaker 5: more expensive to them.

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Speaker 7: The ability for them to attack Taiwan is going to

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Speaker 7: go down drastically. And another thing that this hurts is Russia.

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Speaker 7: Russia no longer has access to all these drones from

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Speaker 7: Iran any longer. And now it's going to force Putin

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Speaker 7: to go to the to go in and negotiate at

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Speaker 7: a much harder and deeper level than he has in

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Speaker 7: the past where he kind of plays you know, hey,

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Speaker 7: I want to negotiate and as we talk, seafire, let

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Speaker 7: me throw a bunch of drones and missiles at Ukraine.

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Speaker 5: It's going to stop that as well.

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Speaker 7: That this war with Iran, while it may, I wish

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Speaker 7: Trump had done more to prepare the country. I wish

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Speaker 7: he had gone to get the war the authorization from

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Speaker 7: Congress prior to it. It is going to reset the world,

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Speaker 7: and it does have the possibility. I don't know how

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Speaker 7: what my problem right now with Trump is we know

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Speaker 7: how to win wars, we don't know how to win.

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Speaker 5: The peace in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's always the question is.

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Speaker 7: What are we doing when the bak the war stops

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Speaker 7: and now you've got to bolkanize Iran that has proxies

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Speaker 7: in eastern Iraq.

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Speaker 5: I think the fascinating part of all.

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Speaker 7: Of this is is Pakistan attacking Afghanistan?

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Speaker 5: Was this coordinated with the US as well? And where

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Speaker 5: did that come from? About that?

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Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden Friday they're attacking Afghanistan.

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Speaker 7: It is very There's a lot of fascinating things that

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Speaker 7: in twenty thirty years, if I'm still alive, those books

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Speaker 7: are going to be fascinating to read.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree. And you know, the other thing to

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Speaker 1: your point, the flow of the drones previously manufactured interrupt

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Speaker 1: assuming previously manufactured. I suspect that was probably one of

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Speaker 1: the top target lists, the drone manufacturing facilities. But Russia

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Speaker 1: is not getting them. But then on the corollary is

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Speaker 1: the other side, and so far as the Russia Ukraine

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Speaker 1: conflict is concerned, we're using up so many of our

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Speaker 1: offensive and defensive weapons now bombing Iran, we need to

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Speaker 1: use those resources that might have gone to Ukraine or

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Speaker 1: literally anybody else in the world that is demanding military

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Speaker 1: hardware from the United States. It's all staying with us

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Speaker 1: or being repurposed in the Middle East, which means sounds

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Speaker 1: of me like Zelunsky and the Ukrainians may struggle with

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Speaker 1: getting military hardware and equipment to well continue to wage

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Speaker 1: war against Russia. That's kind of a two way street there,

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Speaker 1: don't you think.

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Speaker 5: Cj oh Absolutely, And now.

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Speaker 7: That you bring that head up, there was a report

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Speaker 7: last week that Crump was holding munitions to Taiwan. Now

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Speaker 7: we know why is that, we need it for Iran

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Speaker 7: as well, and so there's going to be that side

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Speaker 7: of the coin as well.

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Speaker 5: And I think it.

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Speaker 7: All comes back to both Republicans and Democrats the politics ideologically.

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Speaker 7: You got to think more like Thomas Soul, what are

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Speaker 7: the tradeoffs? And the tradeoff here is is that, yeah,

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Speaker 7: Trump probably should have gone to Congress. He's got ninety

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Speaker 7: days now to do it. He may even have a

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Speaker 7: constitutional argument that since Iran has been at war with

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Speaker 7: US for forty seven years, does he even need a

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Speaker 7: war powers Act because it could be you know, hey,

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Speaker 7: we're being defensive. We've had the War on Terror Act

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Speaker 7: in place in two thousand and one, which has its.

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Speaker 5: Own constitutional issues. I believe for something to.

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Speaker 7: Go on that long, he could go about a lot

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Speaker 7: of different legal ways around the War Powers Act that.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't make this constitutional.

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Speaker 7: As you said, I don't know if the founder has

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Speaker 7: ever thought of anything like this where we would have

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Speaker 7: an act that gives military action for almost thirty years now.

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Speaker 1: Now, Like many observers over the entire history of our country,

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Speaker 1: the framers could not have anticipated fill in the blank,

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Speaker 1: the telephone, the Internet, you know, drones, immediate missiles, right,

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Speaker 1: existential threats that can happen in a moment's time right

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Speaker 1: where it was a different place back then. But we

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Speaker 1: still have that document. But the War Powers Act is

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Speaker 1: a perhaps a constitutional, but many argue unconstitutional delegation of

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Speaker 1: the authority that vested in Congress to declare war and

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Speaker 1: giving it to the president, at least on an interim basis,

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Speaker 1: That too will be argued. Thank you, CJ. Great observations

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Speaker 1: from you, sir. I appreciate you calling in six to sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you can do it as well. I want

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Speaker 1: to mention Peter shbia KELWIAM seven Hills go to seven

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Speaker 1: zero eight three thousand dot com. That is the website

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Speaker 1: be talking Hey six pick about ker City talk station station.

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Speaker 1: It's bringing from CJ's comments. I know we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into this, and I thought Jonathan Turley did a great

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Speaker 1: job outlining this constitutional reality we're dealing with with the

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Speaker 1: launch of the attacks in Iran. And he points out

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Speaker 1: some of already declared the strikes unconstitutional, including Representative Thomas

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Speaker 1: Massey and others ro Conna, for example. He points out, though,

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Speaker 1: and this is true, the precedent favors the president in

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Speaker 1: this action, though the attack does trigger obligations of notice

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Speaker 1: and consultation with Congress. Of course n of the War

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Speaker 1: Powers Act turtly rights. I'm highly sympathetic to those who

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Speaker 1: criticized the failure to seek declarations of war from Congress

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Speaker 1: before carrying out such operations. Indeed, I, Jonathan Turley have

784
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Speaker 1: represented members of Congress in opposing such wars. We lost.

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Speaker 1: The courts have allowed presidents and presidents to order such

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Speaker 1: attacks unilaterally. Of course, Article two, Section two the Constitution

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Speaker 1: states the President shall be commander in chief of the

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Speaker 1: Army and Navy of the United States and of the

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Speaker 1: militia of the several States. However, the Constitution already expressly

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Speaker 1: states that Congress has the power to declare war under

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Speaker 1: Article one, Section eight. Our last declared war was World

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Speaker 1: War II. Since that time, Congress and the courts have

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Speaker 1: allowed for resolutions to support the declaration requirement. They have

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Speaker 1: also allowed for unilateral attacks on other nations. President Trumb's

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Speaker 1: referred to this action as a war and said that

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Speaker 1: it would not be a limited operation. Attack will resultant

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Speaker 1: calls for compliance with the War Powers Resolution passed by

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Speaker 1: Congress in nineteen seventy three, which requires, quote in the

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Speaker 1: absence of a declaration of war close quote, that the

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Speaker 1: President report to Congress within forty eight hours after introducing

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Speaker 1: the US military forces into hostilities. Warpowers Resolution mandates that

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Speaker 1: the operation must end with sixty days absent Congressional approval. Notably,

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Speaker 1: there was a recent secret briefing of the Gang of

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Speaker 1: Eight that may have included foreshadowing in this operation. Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State Marco Rubio confirmed Saturday that he has given

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Speaker 1: notice to those senators under the War Powers Resolution. Here's

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Speaker 1: what it says. The President, in every possible instance, shall

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Speaker 1: consult with Congress before introducing US armed forces into hostilities

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Speaker 1: or into situations where imminent involvement hostilities is clearly indicated

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Speaker 1: by the circumstances, and after every such introduction, shall consult

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Speaker 1: regularly with the Congress until the United States Armed Forces

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Speaker 1: are no longer engaged in hostilities or have been removed

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Speaker 1: from such situation. Just says consult regularly. War Powers Resolution

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Speaker 1: limits the authority to quote hostilities or into situation where

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Speaker 1: imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances,

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Speaker 1: and can be exercised only pursuing to one a declaration

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Speaker 1: of war, two specific statutory authorization, or three a national

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Speaker 1: emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories

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Speaker 1: or possessions, or in its armed forces. President Trump is

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Speaker 1: side of the documented attacks in Iran and its proxies

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Speaker 1: on US forces and its allies. It's also a state

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Speaker 1: sponsor of terrorism, has continued to seek unclear nuclear weapons

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Speaker 1: and defiance of the demands of the international community. Recently,

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Speaker 1: the International Atomic Energy Agency announced that Iran had again

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Speaker 1: barred it from those sites. There has been historically deferent

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Speaker 1: and paid to presidents exerting such judgments under this vague standard.

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Speaker 1: Here's where we get into documented history about presidents going

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Speaker 1: off on their own, certainly the case with the attacks

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Speaker 1: in Bosnia and Libya under Democrat presidents, even with the

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Speaker 1: highly differential language, Presidents have long shafed limitations of war

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Speaker 1: powers resolutions. Nixon's veto of the legislation was in fact overridden.

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Speaker 1: Past democratic and Republican presidents, including Obama, have asserted their

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Speaker 1: inherent authority under Article two to carry out these operations.

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Speaker 1: There is always a fair amount of hypocrisy in these moments.

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Speaker 1: There was no widespread outcry when Obama attacked Libya, particularly

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Speaker 1: from Democrats. When I Jonathan Turley represented members to challenge

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Speaker 1: the undeclared war in Libya, Obama, like Trump, dismissed any

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Speaker 1: need to get congressional approval and attacking the capital city

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Speaker 1: before nation and military sites to force regime change. Figures

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Speaker 1: like then secretariest Date Hillary Clinton were lionized for their

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Speaker 1: tough action in Libya. Critics also rely on the authorization

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Speaker 1: to use of military force to assert limits on the

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Speaker 1: president when authorizing limited, defended, defined military actions. Such resolutions

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Speaker 1: date back to the Adams administration with the quasi war

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Speaker 1: in France. No, I don't remember that one either. Two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one AUMF authorized by the President quote to

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Speaker 1: use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations,

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Speaker 1: are persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the

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Speaker 1: terrorist attacks that occurred on September eleventh, two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: It also authorized presidents to take military action to prevent

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Speaker 1: future acts of terrorism against the United States. Interesting that

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and two AUMF authorized the presidents to

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Speaker 1: use quote necessary and appropriate close quote force to defend

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Speaker 1: national security the US against the continuing threat posed by Iraq.

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Speaker 1: Past presidents plural have interpreted these those two the one

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Speaker 1: on the two thousand and two AUMFS to extend to

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Speaker 1: new threats and beyond countries like Iraq. Twenty eighteen report

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Speaker 1: that the Trump administration declared that the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: two AUMF contains no geographic limitation on where authorized force

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Speaker 1: may be employed broadly interpreted it. Obama, Biden, and Trump

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Speaker 1: have sided the two thousand and two AUMF as supporting

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Speaker 1: past attacks in Syria. Biden attacks included targets in Iraq

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two AUMF as well as the two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one AUMF for quote necessary in proportionate attacks

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Speaker 1: was ironic since he previously supported rescinding the two AUMF.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I got to laugh at this, but we

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Speaker 1: clown show of well our broad interpretations of these aumfs,

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Speaker 1: so they didn't have to go down the road of

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Speaker 1: getting a declaration of war anyway. The administration is likely

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Speaker 1: to consult with Congress in a lot of these attacks,

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Speaker 1: and I think they probably already has. Congress can seek

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Speaker 1: to bar or limit operations in the coming days. That's

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Speaker 1: what they plan on doing this week. Given the fluid events,

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Speaker 1: many members are likely to wait and to watch the

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Speaker 1: initial results and frankly the polling of the attacks centcal there. However,

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Speaker 1: these operations could take days or even weeks, and I

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Speaker 1: will interject perhaps months longer. The operation continues, the calls

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Speaker 1: for Congressional action will force increase. As an initial matter, however,

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Speaker 1: Trump is using authority that prior presidents, including Democrat presidents,

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Speaker 1: have cited in carrying out major attacks in other countries.

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Speaker 1: History and prior precedent are on his side in carrying

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Speaker 1: top of the our News with the Empire Youth, Sumner

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Speaker 1: on Teddy Roosevelt. He's doing we Got Money, Mondays, Brian

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Speaker 1: James because it is Monday, and then just recently added

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Speaker 1: gonna give us his commentary on what the war is

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Speaker 1: going to do to energy prices, which is something I

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Speaker 1: led the program off this morning. Jeff, thanks for calling

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Speaker 1: Happy on Monday to you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning, Brian, good morning, Happy Monday.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: What's going to suggest a new venue over there on

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Speaker 8: Kellogg Gavenue for the next listener.

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Speaker 1: Launch Riverfront Live? F k A Annis you.

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Speaker 5: I remember back in the day when it was Annie's.

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Speaker 1: I know you know that Christopher Smithman sent me an

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Speaker 1: instant message over the weekend about that shooting, and I

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Speaker 1: suspect he is going to be talking about when he

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Speaker 1: comes up, and he said, wasn't that formerly Annie's? And

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Speaker 1: I was like, hell if I know? So I looked

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Speaker 1: it up and yes it was, and.

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Speaker 8: It didn't have got a good concerts there, and I

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Speaker 8: think that they're they're still looking for that mass shooter. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: well and the owners on the news he knows nothing, well.

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Speaker 1: Of course not. But we did celebrate DJ fresh Day,

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Speaker 1: who was performing live Saturday night in advance of the

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Speaker 1: gunplay after have pro ball, honoring him with a proclamation

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Speaker 1: on Friday.

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Speaker 8: How many balloons did they release into the air?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 8: All his helium filled aluminum.

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Speaker 1: Balloons an environmental nightmare exactly. I appreciate the call, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of humor there. It's nice to have

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Speaker 1: on it. Otherwise operating under the cloud of war Dury, Monday,

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Speaker 1: six thirty five. Right now, let me see here. I

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Speaker 1: put my money where my mouth is, and I do

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Speaker 1: that quite often. For your benefit. I bought my daughter

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Speaker 1: and Eric Galaxy concrete coating solution. The talk station at

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Speaker 1: six forty fifty five KRC, the talk station love to

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Speaker 1: hear from You got a comment you want to make

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Speaker 1: five one three seven nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred

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Speaker 1: T Funds. You know, I got a copy of this

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Speaker 1: pivoting over to local stories. We did have a mass

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Speaker 1: shooting over the weekend. They're still investigating it. I'm not

939
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Speaker 1: quite sure if they found anybody yet. But Riverfront Lye

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Speaker 1: was the site formerly Annie's at Kellogg Avenue. Five hundred

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Speaker 1: to six hundred people about one o'clock in the morning

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Speaker 1: when the bullets started flying. Nine people sustain injuries shipped

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Speaker 1: over to UC Medical Center in Good Samaritan Hospital. One

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Speaker 1: victim described in a critical condition that from a statement

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Speaker 1: from a police chief Adam Hanny, since the mayor have

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Speaker 1: to have pervoll talking about gun of course, it's gun violence.

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Speaker 1: It is gun violence, but what is the motive behind

948
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Speaker 1: the gun violence. I think that's what you have to

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Speaker 1: get to, Mayor. You don't need to focus on the

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Speaker 1: gun itself, which is what he is focusing on. What

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Speaker 1: many of these nightclubs and bar shootings have in common though,

952
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Speaker 1: arguments between people with guns. That turns into them shooting indiscriminately.

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Speaker 1: If people have easy access to gun, Pervoll said, across

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Speaker 1: the board and then they get into arguments, it's very

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Speaker 1: difficult to stop that from happening. This brings up the

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Speaker 1: question of whether it's too easy to get a gun

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Speaker 1: in our community. He did say, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have guns, and I might observe that this rarely happens.

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Speaker 1: Thank god. You know, every time I'm asked shooting like

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Speaker 1: this happens, It's on everybody's radar because it's so odd

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Speaker 1: and unusual and so impossible to explain. How did any

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Speaker 1: given individual come to the conclusion that it's great to

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Speaker 1: just randomly fire into a group of people, most of whom,

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Speaker 1: if not any you know, City manager erlong described as heartbroking.

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Speaker 1: But here's the proclamat DJ Fresh was apparently performance over

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. He's one of the acts that was on stage.

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Speaker 1: He received a proclamation from Air aftap Purval last year

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Speaker 1: declaring February twenty seventh, DJ Fresh Day, I did not

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Speaker 1: know this. According to the mayor, DJ Fresh has been

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Speaker 1: an unwavering pillar of his Cincinnati music in the entertainment

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Speaker 1: community for more than fifteen years, demonstrating through his dedication

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Speaker 1: and talent what hard work can achieve. Well, heart, hard

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Speaker 1: work is the answer. That's an interesting change of position.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let me ask you this. If DJ Fresh

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Speaker 1: had not been successful and so wonderful in the entertainment

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Speaker 1: business and then done so much for the community, maybe

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Speaker 1: that's because we're a systemically racist society or something, and

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Speaker 1: he's been held back in spite of his talent. Now

979
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Speaker 1: that doesn't work that way, does it. He provided a

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Speaker 1: service that apparently people enjoy. And I'm not blaming DJ

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Speaker 1: Fresh for the gunplay that happened at the venue over

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Speaker 1: Saturday night in the Sunday morning, So anyway, we did

983
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Speaker 1: make national news on that one. Not exactly a great

984
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Speaker 1: welcome sign for city of Cincinnati. Another story didn't get

985
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Speaker 1: to this morning obviously because of the content involving war

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Speaker 1: in the situation in Iran. We're going to hear more

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Speaker 1: about the energy situation, which I started the morning show

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Speaker 1: with kind of gird your loins and expect the price

989
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Speaker 1: or the barrel of oil to go from where it

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Speaker 1: currently was a couple of days ago, about sixty bucks

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Speaker 1: to maybe ninety or one hundred dollars. Check your futures

992
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Speaker 1: trading on that. Anyway, We had the senior Crossroads Church

993
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Speaker 1: pastor Brian tomb whom I understand was one of the

994
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Speaker 1: founding members of this one of the largest churches in America.

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Speaker 1: He's been suspended a minute independent investigation into what an

996
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Speaker 1: what is described as inappropriate physical humor suspended pending the

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Speaker 1: independent review of inappropriate conduct from late twenty fifteen, during

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Speaker 1: what they say as a video shoot church folks person

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Speaker 1: speaking with Matthew Cappelli of The enquire Isn't it her name?

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Speaker 1: Aaron Caperoni declined to answer questions when reached by the phone.

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Speaker 1: Police are not involved, it says SAYD. The church believe

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Speaker 1: the issue was resolved after the Crossroads Spiritual Board looked

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Speaker 1: into the matter in twenty twenty four and hosted a

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Speaker 1: productive conversation among parties involved. According to the release from then,

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Speaker 1: board reminded Pastor tomb of the weight of his words

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Speaker 1: and actions and formally admonished him to be mindful, to

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Speaker 1: be above reproach that appearance of impropriety kind of thing

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Speaker 1: going on. Release dated. The same community member contacted the

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Speaker 1: church again about the incident. Crossroads then hired an independent investigator,

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Speaker 1: saying in the statement, the Crossroad Spiritual Board has officially

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Speaker 1: suspended past her Tone from all Crossroad responsibilities until the

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Speaker 1: investigation is completed. We're committed to however long the investigation

1013
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Speaker 1: will take and will provide updates as we know more.

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Speaker 1: Anybody know, anybody goes a Crossroads. Quite a few people

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Speaker 1: that are friends of mine that attend that church regularly

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Speaker 1: and have been for a long time. Because it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a letdown, don't you think six forty five y

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Speaker 1: five KRC the talk station. Oh look, another product that

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Speaker 1: I got from my daughter and Eric say, Iraq was

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Speaker 1: attacked by the US during Ramadan, and it's sickening to

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Speaker 1: know that the US is again going to attack Iran

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Speaker 1: during Ramadan. US apparently loves to strike Muslim countries during Ramanan,

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Speaker 1: and I'm convinced that it isn't what these countries have

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Speaker 1: done to violate international law, but about who they worship?

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Speaker 1: She even hitting the bubbling bong of stupidity. So I

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Speaker 1: just I thought it was really interesting the subtle acknowledgment

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Speaker 1: that are on violated Internet law. Yeah, by killing its

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Speaker 1: own people, some rumored to be thirty thousand of its own.

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Speaker 1: But how come we haven't launched strikes on Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Egypt, Turkey, Iran, Algeria, Morocco,

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Speaker 1: all countries that have the largest Muslim populations. That's dominant

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Speaker 1: religion there in some countries that's a theology or theocracy.

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Speaker 1: Are they next cuckoo for coca puffs? Mike Johnson talking

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Speaker 1: about fellow Republicans on a conference call yesterday, the House

1034
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Speaker 1: will likely vote Thursday is the day on the War

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Speaker 1: Powers Resolution, which may may very well or probably won't,

1036
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Speaker 1: limit Trump's authority to take further military action against Iran.

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Speaker 1: This is the one sponsored by Rocanan Congressman Thomas Massy.

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Speaker 1: It's got a couple of other folks on the Republican

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Speaker 1: side that have joined in it. A lot of Democrats

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Speaker 1: are all on board for this. Why because well, evil

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Speaker 1: Orange Man, take Fetterman out. Of that equation, he is

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Speaker 1: all in favor of what Donald Trump is doing. Republicans

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Speaker 1: are rising members to oppose the measure, arguing that it

1044
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Speaker 1: will And here's the problem undercut the Commander Chief at

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Speaker 1: a critical moment. Therein lies the challenge. The dominant view

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Speaker 1: right now as I read it, is that we need

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Speaker 1: to continue bombing Iran until we've bombed their military essentially

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Speaker 1: out of existence. They cannot be left with any offensive

1049
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Speaker 1: capable weapons. Now, whether we can accomplish that or not,

1050
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Speaker 1: whether the people rise up and take over their own country,

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Speaker 1: that's what's hope for. But who knows. But in spite

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Speaker 1: of the fact the Warpower's Resolution does have bipartisan backing,

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Speaker 1: do you think they can override a presidential veto? The

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Speaker 1: numbers don't add up to that. And I found that

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Speaker 1: rather an interesting constitution. Where were so War Powers Resolution?

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Speaker 1: And we're talking about the War Powers Act here, not

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Speaker 1: the declaration of war from Congress, because you know, there

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Speaker 1: are't enough votes to get a declaration of war from Congress.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to rely on that nineteen seventy three

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Speaker 1: Warpowers Act, which many like me think may be unconstitutional

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Speaker 1: because you're not allowed to delegate authority to the executive

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Speaker 1: branch when the constitutions specifically vests that authority in the

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Speaker 1: in Congress legislative branch. That's where the power exists. And

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Speaker 1: under prior Supreme Court case law, if that went before

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, inspite of the conservative makeup of the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court, they do have a lot of years of

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Speaker 1: president to hang their hat on. No, you can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Go back to when they gave Reagan the line item veto.

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Speaker 1: We all would love that. Look, you can scratch out

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Speaker 1: all this excess spending. Remember, don't give me another bill

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Speaker 1: like this. Ever, unconstitutional power of the purse rest with

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Speaker 1: Congress and it cannot be delegated to the president. So

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Speaker 1: we're in the same situation on that, although it's never

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Speaker 1: been before the Supreme Court. But President Trump could veto

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Speaker 1: whatever they passed this week if they do pass it

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, of course, at rent of the whole thing moot.

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Speaker 1: But more fundamentally, if they were to pass it and

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Speaker 1: they were to pull the plug on the authorization, they

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Speaker 1: were to pull the plug on these military actions. Are

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Speaker 1: we just going to pull out and do nothing else?

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Speaker 1: Allowing the Iranians to regroup and re arm potentially, I

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Speaker 1: think the genies out of the bottle at this point.

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Speaker 1: Damn the law. Go back to Jonathan Turley's comments on that,

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Speaker 1: We've got years and years and years and years of

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Speaker 1: presidents doing the same damn thing. Last declaration of war

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Speaker 1: was World War Two. I don't know if Waiver and

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Speaker 1: his stop will apply to that, but therein lies the

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Speaker 1: reality where we find ourselves right now. Anybody's critical Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump because he's Donald Trump doing this, just go back

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Speaker 1: and reflect upon, you know, the all the prior presidents

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Speaker 1: and what was your position on those. I think I

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Speaker 1: personally was critical about killing momark Adaffi and Libya just

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Speaker 1: out of nowhere, dropping a bum on him after wore

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Speaker 1: that that was Obama. Parenthetically, don't go away. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear from Dan Reganold got Teddy Roosevelt to talk about

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01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: there's an empower You seminar taking place, and appreciate Dan

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Speaker 1: and all his efforts to try to educate us with

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Speaker 1: the empower Youoamerica dot org website and all the great

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Speaker 1: seminars are there. Christopher Smithman's joining the program at seven twenty. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he'll probably have a comment about the mass shooting at

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Speaker 1: the disco or whatever that club was, wasn't Annie's anymore,

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Speaker 1: don't away. He's coming up as well as Dan Reganold

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Speaker 1: Today's top headlines coming up at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just can't predict what's gonna happen next.

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Speaker 1: On fifty five KRC, the talk station, it's seven six.

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Speaker 1: If you do have PARCD talk station, Happy Monday, hope

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Speaker 1: you have a happy Monday. Stick around Christmas Smithan coming

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Speaker 1: up at seven twenty. Got Money Money with Brian James,

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Speaker 1: and of course we're gonna ge. We're going to feel

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Speaker 1: the energy prices go up as a consequence of the

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Speaker 1: situation where the straight or removes issues bring him account

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Speaker 1: from the Hudson's. So it's going to talk about just that.

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Speaker 1: Following Brian James, he'll be on at eight forty the meantime,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back and dear God love him, Dan Regnold, the

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Speaker 1: man responsible for Empower You America dot org and all

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Speaker 1: these wonderful education opportunities, and the man who will be

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Speaker 1: conducting the class tomorrow night, seven pm. Empower Youoamerica dot Org,

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Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt. Welcome back, Dan Reganold, It's great to have

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Speaker 1: you on this morning.

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Speaker 9: It's good to be here. So much geez, so much

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Speaker 9: news going on. Oh yeah, and I agree with your

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Speaker 9: comments Brian about that genie being kind of out of

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Speaker 9: the bottle now. But hey, if people want to get

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Speaker 9: away from all the news of the last weekend and stuff,

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Speaker 9: I'm just inviting everyone tomorrow night. I'm going to be

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Speaker 9: doing a class as part of our America two fifty

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Speaker 9: series on Teddy Roosevelt, our twenty sixth president.

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Speaker 1: What would what would Teddy do? Dan reganold real quick

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Speaker 1: here on the you mentioned the genie being out of

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Speaker 1: the bottle, and I just got a response from a

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Speaker 1: good friend and of the greater since you, Rob Ryder, mentioning, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's an interesting point about the genie being out of

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Speaker 1: the bottle, and my followed up with it, Dan, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was rather interesting, and it's sure not what

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Speaker 1: Iran expected. But they started launching missiles and all the

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Speaker 1: surrounding Arab countries. Well, of course, I guess they thought

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Speaker 1: that that might get the Arab countries to collectively condemn

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Speaker 1: the United States for causing the chaos that ensued with Iran.

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Speaker 1: Willy Nearly just launching missiles and apparently don't hit what

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Speaker 1: they're looking or what they're aimed for. They're hitting civilian targets. Well,

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Speaker 1: all the Arab nations that have been impacted have stood

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Speaker 1: up and said and they're condemning Iran. I think I

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Speaker 1: think the Middle East is sick of Iran. With that response,

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Speaker 1: I think they're like, you know what, this is the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the end of Iran. Let them get the

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Speaker 1: job done. They've done nothing but so chaos and and

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Speaker 1: and and and violence and death in this region. So

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Speaker 1: let's start over. Do you think we're near that point? Dan?

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Speaker 9: Those other countries just want this, just want them to

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Speaker 9: go away. They're they're just tired of all the all

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Speaker 9: the drama that's going on. And uh yeah, I think

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Speaker 9: I think you're exactly right on that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sorry we're talking about Teddy Roosevelt.

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Speaker 9: But but you know, you ask what would Teddy do? Well,

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Speaker 9: he would he would speak softly and carry his big stick.

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Speaker 9: This is a bigger than life personality. And the reason

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Speaker 9: I wanted to look at Teddy Roosevelt's life, Brian was,

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Speaker 9: you know, I don't know when it was, but I

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Speaker 9: saw a picture on Mount Rushmore. Of the four presidents,

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Speaker 9: you've got Washington, You've got Jefferson, You've got Teddy Roosevelt,

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Speaker 9: and then you've got Lincoln. And Teddy was the one

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Speaker 9: that knew the least about. And I had to ask myself,

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Speaker 9: why was he so important to be up on that mountain? Yeah,

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Speaker 9: and he was just but as I started to learn

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Speaker 9: about him, I mean, he just was a bigger than

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Speaker 9: life personality. People the people, the people just loved him.

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Speaker 9: He went and he was elected early at the age

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Speaker 9: of twenty two to the New York Assembly. He was

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Speaker 9: at he was at work, his first child was born.

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Speaker 9: He went home to his family, He suffered the amazing

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Speaker 9: tragedy of what of finding his mother and his wife

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Speaker 9: dying in the same twenty four hour period. And he

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Speaker 9: just he just kind of he just went from that

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Speaker 9: to be to to to a life where where he

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Speaker 9: embraced the people of the country and and and and

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Speaker 9: fought for them. His big, his big thing, his big

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Speaker 9: overwhelming thing, which I know you'll like and I sure like,

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Speaker 9: was just fighting corruption and some of his earliest positions.

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Speaker 9: He was appointed to the Postal Commission, and he replaced

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Speaker 9: thirty thousand postal commissioners. Could you imagine doing that in

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Speaker 9: the nineteen hundred sprime Woden like he went on to

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Speaker 9: the police. He became police commissioner of New York. He

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Speaker 9: roamed the streets. The newspapers wrote about him and and

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Speaker 9: and and talked about him personally arresting people, throwing him

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Speaker 9: in jail. He runs for runs for mayor of New

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Speaker 9: York and loses and says, well, I'm going to go

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Speaker 9: out west. He becomes a cowboy. He's got this. I

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Speaker 9: don't know if you've ever seen a picture of his

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Speaker 9: pearl handled revolver he would carry around. And the people

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Speaker 9: in South Dakota and North Dakota, where he had two ranches,

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Speaker 9: loved him and he just loved it. And that's where

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Speaker 9: he had this love of the West. He really was

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Speaker 9: the first president who created a lot of the national parks,

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Speaker 9: and really was almost a father in the national parks.

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Speaker 9: And he had like, at one point fifty thousand cattle,

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Speaker 9: and then one year there was this disease that killed

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Speaker 9: almost all of them. And he was never good with money,

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Speaker 9: and he almost lost everything. Moved back to New York,

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Speaker 9: became governor.

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Speaker 2: There, and.

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Speaker 9: He fights with all like this too bright, and he

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Speaker 9: fights with all the Republican Republican higher ups and they say,

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Speaker 9: let's get rid of this Rosevelt guy. Let's make him

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Speaker 9: vice president. He was almost like he was almost like

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Speaker 9: the Kamala Harris at his time. And he becomes vice

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Speaker 9: president for Will McKinley, a great president, somebody who Trump

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Speaker 9: likes a lot. And McKinley's second term, McKinley's assassinated the

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Speaker 9: first month, and Teddy Roosevelt, at forty three, becomes the

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Speaker 9: youngest president ever. And he's just faced with all these problems,

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Speaker 9: as a coal strike that shuts down the entire country.

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Speaker 9: People are out walking the streets, no heat, no power.

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Speaker 9: He he gets in the negotiation, directly solves the coal strike,

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Speaker 9: becomes a hero, is loved, goes on a hunting trip

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Speaker 9: and doesn't like the way hunters are killing bears, and

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Speaker 9: all of a sudden, people create the Teddy Bear, and

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Speaker 9: the Teddy Bear is formed and people are selling them all.

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Speaker 4: Over the you know, all over the world.

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Speaker 3: That's where that came from.

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Speaker 9: That's where it came from. He has he has huge

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Speaker 9: foreign policy wins, comes up with the big idea, we

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Speaker 9: need a canal in Panama, creates the Panama Canal is

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Speaker 9: down driving a tractor on the Panama Panama crele building it.

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Speaker 9: And he's just this guy is just a larger than

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Speaker 9: life hero.

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Speaker 2: He he.

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Speaker 9: He creates the rough Riders. When when our battleship in Cuba,

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Speaker 9: the battleship Maine is Is is bombed and two hundred

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Speaker 9: and sixty Americans die, and Teddy takes a troop of

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Speaker 9: a troop of rough shot just just every type of

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Speaker 9: person possible down to down to Cuba and with his

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Speaker 9: rough Riders, and he takes him all in a bar

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Speaker 9: and says, hey, everybody beers on me. I mean this

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Speaker 9: is you know, this is our kind of guy. Man.

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Speaker 3: Uh you know, it's the roughrider.

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Speaker 1: I had to look up because I kept here, you know,

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Speaker 1: storming sandwan Hill. He was a rough rider the very

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Speaker 1: first US Volunteer Cavalry Regiment.

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Speaker 9: It was amazing when you see the picture of him,

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Speaker 9: and and he loved the military. He loved everything everything

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Speaker 9: about it.

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Speaker 2: And uh he he he he.

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Speaker 9: You know, So he becomes president at the age of

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Speaker 9: forty three, saw as a coal strike and then immediately

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Speaker 9: the Panic of nineteen o seven happens where there was

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Speaker 9: a series of bank runs. He didn't really understand finance,

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Speaker 9: but he was able to get it solved and solve

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Speaker 9: another really incredible, incredible crisis that happened. You know, this

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Speaker 9: is during the time Brian where nine million immigrants are

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Speaker 9: are entering America through Ellis Island, and I kind of clipped,

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Speaker 9: it's amazing about this is a principal guy. He is

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Speaker 9: so clear on his thoughts about immigration. If we could

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Speaker 9: what happened in the last hundred years, I don't know,

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Speaker 9: but he says, he says, any immigrant who assimilates will

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Speaker 9: be treated equally irregardless of their race or nationality. But

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Speaker 9: they must immig they must assimilate. They must have one country.

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Speaker 9: It's got to be this country. We're going to have

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Speaker 9: one language, one flag. How do we get so far

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Speaker 9: away from that?

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Speaker 1: Oh my word, that was exactly what I was thinking

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Speaker 1: when you were saying that.

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Speaker 9: Boy, he kind of grooms William Howard Taft to be

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Speaker 9: the next president, and he tries to help Taff, but

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Speaker 9: he's such a strong leader he can't watch other people lead,

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Speaker 9: and he kind of breaks up that relationship and starts

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Speaker 9: kind of running on the Progressive Party and tries to

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Speaker 9: run against Taft, but really really can't beat the machine.

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Speaker 9: But this is when he has this incredibly famous.

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Speaker 2: Speech.

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Speaker 9: He goes out and gives This is around the time

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Speaker 9: when he created the Square Deal. He goes out and

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Speaker 9: gives a speech, and an assassin out in the audience

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Speaker 9: shoots him. This is in nineteen thirteen. The bullet God

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Speaker 9: saving moment. The bullet hits a glass case that's in

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Speaker 9: the pocket of his suit, and Roosevelt starts bleeding from

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Speaker 9: his chest. And Roosevelt says, you may notice I'm bleeding,

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Speaker 9: but it's it hasn't hit my lung. And it will

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Speaker 9: take more than a bullet to kill a bull moose.

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Speaker 9: And he keeps talking for an hour.

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Speaker 1: Bad assery.

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Speaker 2: He is a bad ass or.

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Speaker 9: And then he's got this amazing trip. Some people know

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Speaker 9: about this, some people don't, where he goes out on

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Speaker 9: the Amazon River and and he takes a trip overseas

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Speaker 9: where he meets with every foreign dignitary. He's lauded by everyone.

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Speaker 9: But he takes his trip on what's been now called

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Speaker 9: on the Amazon, called the River of Doubt, where he

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Speaker 9: almost dies. His son's with him. He loses twenty five

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Speaker 9: percent of his entire body weight, there's there's fever everywhere,

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Speaker 9: and he barely makes it back, but but he does

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Speaker 9: come back, he survives. He's just champion. He's a champion

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Speaker 9: of the people because that's what he was. He was

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Speaker 9: the guy when people were when he was fighting corruption

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Speaker 9: that said, we've got to treat the workers fairly. He

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Speaker 9: developed the workman's compensation system really nationwide, and people just

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Speaker 9: loved him for what he did. And that's the class

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Speaker 9: we're going to talk about tomorrow night. He's just an

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Speaker 9: incredible larger than life.

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Speaker 1: Character, clearly, and I thank you so much for doing

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Speaker 1: all the research on that. I honestly I'm in your position,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think about Teddy Roosevelt and I at

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Speaker 1: least the ones on the Mount Rush where I know

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Speaker 1: him least, and going to solve that problem tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get seven pm. It's a virtual class, as

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Speaker 1: I understand it. Log in from the comfort of your

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Speaker 1: own home, go to empower you America dot or just

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Speaker 1: click the register button and in advance to attend. Virtually

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Speaker 1: it's gonna I know you always do a fantastic job,

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Speaker 1: So thanks for doing the laboring or on Teddy Roosevelt

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Speaker 1: for everybody tomorrow night, seven pm. We're all going to

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Speaker 1: be tuned in. Dan, thank you so much.

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Speaker 9: Thank you for having me, Brian, and good morning to everyone.

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Speaker 9: And tell my friend Christopher I said, hello, Okay.

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Speaker 1: He's wait six twenty two. If I have ks he

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Speaker 1: talks today. It's Monday. It's that time we get to

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Speaker 1: hear from the former vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: Christopher smith Man. We'll call this smither VN. Christopher. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: My friend's great here for me today as always, and

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Speaker 1: of course good hearing from you over the weekend about

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Speaker 1: the shooting that happened at Riverfront Live.

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Speaker 2: I have to tell you, Brian, my first my heart

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01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: goes out to the victims. Yes, you know, like yours

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Speaker 2: and your listening audience, and it's so unfortunate that you know,

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Speaker 2: you and I are going to have this conversation over

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Speaker 2: and over again, you know, throughout the summer. That's my prediction,

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Speaker 2: and for a lot of different reasons. But the problem

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Speaker 2: with this for me is there are things that we

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Speaker 2: can do, and so for example, you know, I'm glad

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Speaker 2: the mayor held a press conference. We had a mass

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Speaker 2: shooting in Cincinnati. Nine people were shot Signal ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Actually I got my information originally from Signal ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: and in the chaos, they thought thirteen people were shot,

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Speaker 2: and now it went to nine and now and one

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Speaker 2: person still and critical condition. That is incredibly serious. And

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Speaker 2: I also want to say before I get into this

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Speaker 2: direct rant about our leadership locally, is that my hats

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Speaker 2: go off to the UC medical teams, our medical teams

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Speaker 2: across our region, because if they're not doing what they're doing,

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Speaker 2: more people would die, meaning people are being shot. But

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Speaker 2: we have some of the best medical operations in our

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Speaker 2: emergency rooms in this region, and every single weekend they

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Speaker 2: are saving lives. It's like an all out war on

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Speaker 2: our streets and they're in there putting people back together.

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Speaker 2: So my hats go off to every one of those

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Speaker 2: emergency rooms that took the nine people that were shot,

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Speaker 2: because more would be dead or more would be in

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Speaker 2: a worse situation if we didn't have them in place.

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Speaker 2: That's important to say.

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Speaker 1: It is Christopher. I'm glad you brought that up because

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Speaker 1: I have a dear friend, retired Colonel Bob Katarre, who

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Speaker 1: does wound immediate emergency care wound training for folks maybe

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Speaker 1: you're involved in an active shooter situation. He does training

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Speaker 1: to deal with the active shooter. But the critical thing

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Speaker 1: is in need is someone right there ready to take

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Speaker 1: care of the wounds, because you end up with more

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Speaker 1: casualties because people there aren't tending to the people who

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Speaker 1: are bleeding. So we could do society a greade service

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Speaker 1: if we all collectively learn how to deal with emergency

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Speaker 1: wound care. And there are ways to learn and do

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Speaker 1: that so we can be part of the solution to it. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: I mean, should never happen problem, Christopher. I still every

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Speaker 1: time this kind of thing happens, people randomly shooting into

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Speaker 1: innocent people that they have no connection with, I am

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Speaker 1: totally baffled. I don't get it. I really don't. Pausebring

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Speaker 1: Christopher back. I know he's got a whole lot more

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Speaker 1: to talk about this, but I want to mention foreign exchange.

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Speaker 1: I had another, as always terrific foreign exchange experience deep

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Speaker 1: Talk station seven nine on a Monday, right time. It

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Speaker 1: was from Christopher Smidman doing the smither vent. Back over

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Speaker 1: to you, Christopher Smitheman.

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Speaker 2: We are we are in a situation where we need

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Speaker 2: a strong mayor that comes up to that podium and

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Speaker 2: not not just apologize this for the mass shooting, but

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Speaker 2: tells the community what is his plan. That's what's missing.

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Speaker 2: You know, I can go to my pastor, I can

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Speaker 2: go to my priest. You know, I'm Catholic, and I

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01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: can go get a homily, go there and pray. What

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Speaker 2: we need from our local leaders is a plan. That's

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Speaker 2: what's missing. And for the city manager to blame guns unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: I get the idea that it's easy to say, wow, man,

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Speaker 2: we've got all these guns out here, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: But they're legal gun owners like myself. Who you know,

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Speaker 2: I've gone through the training, I have a license to carry.

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Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of other Americans in

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Speaker 2: the state of Ohio have that. Like who is she

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Speaker 2: talking about? Right? So obviously we the people who have

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Speaker 2: a legal gun. And obviously the person here shooting randomly

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Speaker 2: into a crowd of people and shooting nine people, that's unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: But speak to that, not talking about it's the gun.

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Speaker 2: It's the person who has the gun and their finger

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Speaker 2: on the trigger. People and christ that is the problem.

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Speaker 1: What typically turns out to be the case, and it's

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Speaker 1: too early because I don't think they found the person

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Speaker 1: or persons responsible for this ridiculous behavior in these In

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Speaker 1: these four people getting shot nine times out of ten,

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Speaker 1: it turns out they have a they have acquired a

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Speaker 1: firearm unlawfully. The gun itself shouldn't be held by them

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Speaker 1: because they're under disability from prior convictions or whatever, or

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Speaker 1: they're under age, and yet they've acquired a firearm. They're

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Speaker 1: not looking to the reality that they have not only

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Speaker 1: engaged in murderous activity, but also have violated the law

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Speaker 1: in doing so. So what are we going to do?

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Speaker 1: Their response, basically, if they got their way, is to

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01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 1: try to eliminate all the guns, which will never happen, never.

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Speaker 2: Correct never, And so there speaking into the wind when

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Speaker 2: they hold press conferences and they say things like that

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01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: I was the former vice mayor somebody who might not

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Speaker 2: know that I served as the chair of Law and

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Speaker 2: Public Safety. And here's what a healthy council would do.

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Speaker 2: Number One, you would have your legal department right the

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Speaker 2: owner and say I'd like to have a discussion in

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01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 2: a meeting with you immediately like today. Number Two, you'd

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01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 2: hold it an open meeting on the floor of council

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01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 2: where you bring the owner in with your legal team

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01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: sitting to your right, and you say to the owner, listen, guy,

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01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: on this day, you had control of the door. You

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01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: were the person responsible. You had this group come and

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01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: perform or have the party in our city. Ultimately, dude,

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01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 2: you are responsible. Nine people were shot. What is your

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01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 2: plan to tell the city of Cincinnati this will never

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01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: happen again. I don't want to turn on CNN and

1421
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: see another mass shooting at your location. So, like, what

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01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: you're trying to do is get the owner to come

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01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: up with a plan. Now, if the owner fails to

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01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 2: do that, you shut them down. Dude. You say, Hi,

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01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 2: you can't operate in my city. I'm not gonna turn

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Speaker 2: on the national news. All the money that our corporation

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Speaker 2: spends to brand Cincinnati as a good place, We're not

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01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 2: gonna let you ruin it because you can't control the

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01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: activities that's your location. Your job is to make sure

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Speaker 2: that guns don't get into the operation. And if you

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Speaker 2: can't do that, dude, we're gonna shut you down. My

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01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 2: point is that this mayor and this council, they will

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01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 2: be passing resolutions this week on what's going on in Iran.

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01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: Guarantee it. Just like they were passing resolutions on what

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01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: was going on in Israel and what was happening with

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01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: the Palestinians or what they should have been talking about

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01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: if the mods meaning they packed the chambers for these

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01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: nonsensical things, But they won't introduce a resolution that says,

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01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: we are very concerned about this shooting, we are concerned

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01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 2: about the violence in our urban core, and here are

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01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: the things we're going to do about it. Because guess what, public,

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01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 2: that's what they actually have control over. That's what we've

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01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 2: elected them to do. But they would rather talk about

1444
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 2: stuff they have no control over that they should not

1445
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: be discussing. That's not the city's business. Look for them

1446
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 2: to introduce resolutions about Trump is war powers, what's happening

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01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: in Iran, and nothing about what is happening specifically with

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Speaker 2: the Riverfront live at this shooter, which is in their jurisdiction.

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01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm wondering what they could actually do

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01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: about it. I mean other than scream and cry and

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01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: will and nashteeth about the existence of firearms. Generally speaking,

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01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: the question is how is it that some person comes

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01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 1: to the conclusion they're going to take their perhaps lawfully

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01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: on firearm and start squeezing it off randomly into a crowd.

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Speaker 1: To do about it, how do you deal with someone

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01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 1: who would engage in that kind of behavior.

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01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I have the cooperation, brother, if I'm standing, if I'm

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01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 2: the strong mayor, I'm trying to find the shooter. So

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Speaker 2: number one, I've got it. I've got a something on

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01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 2: the line financially for information about who was doing the shooting,

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01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 2: meaning there's gotta be video, there's gotta be taped. We

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01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,799
Speaker 2: are continually looking for people to cooperate with our police department.

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01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: This is something that we should have heard from the

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Speaker 2: mayor and the city manager. The reason they don't do

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Speaker 2: that right is because they're soft on crime. Because then

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01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: and that's in their head, it's in their culture. Like

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01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 2: if we find the person, right and we arrest a person,

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01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: how many of us believe that they won't be let out,

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Speaker 2: Like they'll come right in and out the door the

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Speaker 2: next day. Meaning they seem to have this i'm gonna

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01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: coddle the criminal kind of mentality. And that's why they

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01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 2: did not speak to that. They spoke to our emotion

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01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: about how we feelorry about what happened. Look strong, Mayor,

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01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: your staff, city manager, Citi's listener, if you're listening to

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01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:10,799
Speaker 2: this broadcast this morning, you are the leaders of the city.

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01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: Your job is to bring the owner into compliance. Right

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01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: if he cannot run an establishment where nine people are shot,

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01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 2: shut him down, don't give them a permit, make it

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01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 2: difficult for him to do business in the city of Cincinnati.

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01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 2: But don't scream about you love black people, black lives matter,

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01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: putting murals on the front of city Hall. But when

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01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 2: it counts, when we need you, when we need you

1484
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 2: to show that you actually care, you do nothing. You

1485
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: don't empower our police department to do their job. You

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01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 2: don't say I love my police and we need you

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01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: now to do everything you can to find the people

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01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: that shot nine people.

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Speaker 4: If that was one of my.

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Speaker 2: Babies right now, I would be going nuts on this mayor.

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Speaker 2: I would be going nuts on this city manager. I

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Speaker 2: would be going nuts on the city solicit heer all

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Speaker 2: nine members of council because they are not showing the

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Speaker 2: leadership for this not to happen again. Brian Thomas, well.

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Speaker 1: Thank god your daughter wasn't implicated, because you are already

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01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: going nuts on the administration. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: She wouldn't be at it. She would not be at

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01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: an event like that, brother, because I'm a dad that

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01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 2: is absolutely on it. Even into her twenties. She understands

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01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: what the boundaries are. They're great parents out there, single

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01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 2: moms every day who wake up and do everything they

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01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: can for their families. The ninety nine percent of the

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01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 2: people that went to that event, law abiding citizens. Has

1504
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it. But guess what happened. We

1505
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: had a owner who did not control that. Listen, you

1506
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: can say, oh, he's snuck it in. Don't bring these groups, Brian.

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01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 2: No one told him to bring this particular DJ to

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01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 2: the city of Cincinnati. If he cannot handle the crowd,

1509
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: don't bring them here. That's what I'm trying to say, Brian.

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01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 2: And if you you've got a strong mayor, you've got

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01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: nine members of council, you've got a city solicitor, Please

1512
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 2: don't get on the mic and act like you don't

1513
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 2: have any power to do anything while you have a

1514
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 2: neural at the front of your city hall that says

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01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: black lives matter.

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01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: Well, it was just two days after DJ Fresh Day

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01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: Proclamation from twenty twenty five. Interesting that maybe you can

1518
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: comment on that as well more with Christopher Smithman a

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01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: true Smith event. Yes it is deep talk station brag

1520
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: as hell, but I'm not gonna take this anymore. That's

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01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman today and every Monday with a Smith Event.

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Speaker 1: It's feven forty two right now. But about KRCD Talk Station, Christopher,

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01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: you suggested that DJ Fresh one of the performers at

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01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: the nightclub over the weekend. Perhaps one of the reasons

1525
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 1: you went did he draw an unsavory crowd or something

1526
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: was was he is he known to draw audiences that

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01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: engage in I don't know. We'll call it criminal behavior

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01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: to boil it down. What's the story on that?

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01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. All I can say is that, Yeah,

1530
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 2: all I can say is that the owner hosted the

1531
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 2: party and it's his house. And at the same time,

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01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 2: he admitted that he was responsible for controlling the door,

1533
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 2: meaning he's clearly right, and he had the metal detectors

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01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: their conversations about whether they were working or not. I

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01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 2: don't know, but he was responsible for that and at

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01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: the end of the day, the buck stops with him,

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01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 2: and so he didn't turn that over to the producers.

1538
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: Are the people that were coming there at a party.

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01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 2: He remained or retained control of his facility, which makes

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01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: him responsible. Look, Brian, I want to say one other

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01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: thing here, because I know our time. I want to

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01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 2: send my big hats off to our troops. You know,

1543
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 2: I have a son who has served and is serving.

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01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 2: He's back, he served active duties back as you know,

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01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,839
Speaker 2: and he's doing National Guard stuff. But we got troops

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01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,879
Speaker 2: all over the world, parents, you know, who are supporting

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01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: their families. They've got husbands and wives and daughters and

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01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: sons who are serving. My hat goes off to them.

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01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 2: My prayers go off to them. The servicemen that lost

1550
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 2: their life, you know, and who were injured, my hats

1551
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: go off to them. I want to be very clear

1552
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 2: that I am pro America. So if you're listening to me,

1553
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: I love the United States of America, I love our flag.

1554
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 2: And that this is not me saying that America is perfect.

1555
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,560
Speaker 2: We are an experiment. But that doesn't mean that I

1556
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 2: don't love this country and the benefits that I get

1557
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: from this country. We have a president who made a

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01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 2: decision that lots of other presidents had not made. Right,

1559
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't have enough information. I'm not the CIA to know. Okay,

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01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: was this the right decision? This is when you say

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01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 2: I support my country, I support the president to do nothing.

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01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: Congress that always sits out there over the next week

1563
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 2: and says, oh, man, we've got to convene. You didn't

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01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 2: come tell me we're gonna take vote. Go take your votes,

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01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: Go do what you're gonna do, whatever you're gonna do,

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01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: which is gonna be nothing. And so that is why

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01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: we don't make progress in this country and in this world.

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01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: Bottom line is, this is a country that has been

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01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: screaming death to America for forty seven years. We finally

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01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 2: have a president that believes them, and so stop saying

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01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: it around the world. I would say over the next

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01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 2: three years. That's the lesson. Don't convene all your generals

1573
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: and your leaders in one room while you are saying

1574
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 2: death to America. You might want to spread out two

1575
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 2: on two, two on two, maybe fifty targets are the

1576
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 2: zoo con But it was a bad idea to say

1577
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 2: death to America and then everybody get together for a meeting.

1578
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 2: Lesson learned. But at the end of the day, we

1579
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,839
Speaker 2: have to be about the business of supporting our leaders.

1580
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: When they are making decisions like this and most importantly,

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01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,839
Speaker 2: supporting our troops. I'm tired of all this anti American

1582
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 2: stuff coming from our Congress and our leaders about what

1583
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 2: they would do if they want to be the president.

1584
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Run for president of the United States of America in

1585
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 2: the next three years. Put your name on the ballot,

1586
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 2: and let's see if Americans choose you. If not, go

1587
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 2: take a vote, Go do something. But stop condemning every

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01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 2: move that's coming out of the White House. From what

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01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 2: I've seen, the people in Iran are very happy about

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01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: the outcome. Right now, they're in the streets. They're saying,

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01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 2: I want change. This probably will go down as a

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01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 2: game changer for the Middle East. Yes, for a lot

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01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 2: of reasons. But at the end, here's what I want

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01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 2: to say. This is a country that is killed a

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01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 2: lot of Americans. That's a fact. I don't know how

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01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 2: many they've killed, but they've killed a lot of Americans.

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Speaker 2: Let's at least give this White House the room right

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01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 2: to see where this thing plays out before we start

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Speaker 2: condemning them. And we don't even have enough information to

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Speaker 2: know where this thing is going.

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Speaker 4: No, we do not.

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Speaker 1: And the other interesting thing is that I've been commented

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01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: about this. I'm not the only one all of different

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01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: Arab nations that the Iranians launched missiles into. I think

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01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,839
Speaker 1: they thought the expectation was that would bring about pressure

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01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: on the United States to back off, to enter into

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01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: a pause, so more discussions and more peace discussions and

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01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: negotiation could take place. But they came out and criticized

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01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 1: the run for the response. They didn't criticize the United States.

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01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: I think they all are looking for future stability in

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01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: the region, a stability that is made impossible because of

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01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 1: the Iranians. Thus far, one.

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01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: Hundred percent Americans out here listening to the two of us, right,

1614
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 2: have to understand that there are times that things are

1615
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 2: happening in other countries that are the interest of America.

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01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: Meaning this is a sponsor. This country sponsors terrorism around

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01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: the world. Right, They are responsible for the murder of

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01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: lots of Americans, our soldiers. And so this president just said, listen,

1619
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to negotiate with you about your nuclear your

1620
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,600
Speaker 2: desire to get a nuclear weapon. If Iran gets a

1621
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon, they're saying death to America. We should all

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01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 2: assume that they're gonna point their missiles towards us, all

1623
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 2: of them. You heard the President say, listen, I'm going

1624
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 2: to clean this up for many generations coming after me,

1625
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 2: meaning I'm gonna make the Middle East a more stable place.

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01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna make sure that Iran stops doing what they're doing.

1627
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: And all I ask, if I would say anything, if

1628
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 2: I could talk to the White House, which I can't,

1629
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: is to say, let's get it done right the first time,

1630
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,719
Speaker 2: so that we're not coming back, no troops on the ground,

1631
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 2: and let's let Israel do their work and let the

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01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 2: people of Iran rise up, which is what it looks

1633
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 2: like they're doing, and take their country back and have

1634
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 2: their own self determination. But let's not forget that this

1635
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 2: is a country that has been saying death to America

1636
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 2: for forty seven years. This president said, I believe them.

1637
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 2: I believe that that's what they feel. They're killing us

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01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 2: from time the time with these terrorist attacks. And all

1639
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 2: I'm saying is I'm not a person for war. I'm

1640
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 2: not a person that wants violets. That's not where my

1641
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 2: head is. But I also understand that times war is

1642
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 2: a necessary part of the work that we do in

1643
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 2: this country, and at this time we should all be

1644
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 2: unifying around the White House. I don't care who the

1645
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 2: president is. If it's Obama, if it's Bush, if it's Clinton,

1646
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if it's Reagan. We get behind our

1647
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 2: president and we see this through. That's what elections are about.

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01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 1: Well, and I will acknowledge and point out up front

1649
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,600
Speaker 1: unexpected comments. This not just the Arab nations supporting us

1650
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: in our actions. Germany, France and UK, which of course

1651
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: didn't participate in the strikes, said yesterday they will take

1652
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 1: steps to the steps to defend their interest and those

1653
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,759
Speaker 1: of our allies in the region, potentially through enabling necessary

1654
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: and proportionate defensive action to destroy Iran's capability to fire

1655
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 1: missiles and drones at their source. Sounds to me like

1656
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 1: the EE or the NATO countries are also on board

1657
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: the suggestion we need to emasculate Iran now while we

1658
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: have the CHAN, So let's take care of business. Krc

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Speaker 1: D Talk station eight oh six at Pity five KRCD

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Speaker 1: Talk Station Thomas right here, wishing everybody very happy Monday listener,

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01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 1: launch the works Pizza cod downtown Lowland on Wednesday. It

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01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 1: is Monday and it is this time when we always

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01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: talk to Monday Monday, Brian James. Monday Monday is the

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01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 1: time of week and thanks to all Worth Financial flowing

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01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: now Brian James to talk about these topics, most notably

1666
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: uh the impact on the conflict going on the Middle

1667
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: East called a war. If you want on the market,

1668
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: Brian James, Welcome back to the Morning Show. I'm staring

1669
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 1: at the Wall Street Journal cover or front page here

1670
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 1: dow Jones looking down a little over a point same

1671
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: thing with SMP five hundred, nasdacked out a little bit

1672
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 1: more north of a point and a half, although really

1673
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: not as bad as I would have thought the markets

1674
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 1: would be in terms of futures. Welcome back to my friend.

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01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: It's good heaving. You want to talk about these things.

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01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish we had happier headlines to talk about.

1677
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 6: You know, here we go again with a little bit

1678
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 6: of a war in the Middle East, and yeah, I

1679
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 6: think we can go ahead and fairly call it a war.

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01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 6: I'm not sure what else happens over there so so far. Yeah,

1681
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 6: like you said, nothing surprising is happening with regard to

1682
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 6: the economics and markets and so on and so forth.

1683
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 6: The stock markets are down because, as we know, we

1684
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,879
Speaker 6: don't like the lack of visibility. That's really the challenge

1685
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 6: that the market faces every time there's headlines like this.

1686
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 6: And of course, as you would not be surprised to hear,

1687
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 6: oil futures are up about nine percent. Fill up now

1688
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 6: if you haven't already, But I have a feeling that

1689
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 6: overnight the price isn't the gas pump changed anyway, you

1690
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 6: may have missed your window.

1691
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 3: Surely, don't need to make light of any of this.

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01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 6: Obviously, there's a lot going on here, and this is

1693
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 6: these are scary times. They were scary before this happened,

1694
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 6: and they just got a little bit worse. But as

1695
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 6: far as what the economic impact and all that stuff is,

1696
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 6: right now, we're kind of following the pattern down or

1697
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 6: oil up, stocks down.

1698
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 3: With the exception of the defense sector.

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01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 6: We're seeing companies like Lockheed Martin and raithing on all

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01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 6: those kind of companies are having a good day.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, because of the situation that we're all.

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01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,799
Speaker 1: In military industrial complex. The whole world's clamoring for weapons

1703
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 1: and missiles, and now they're all being dedicated to committed

1704
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: to the Middle East, which presents a problem for a

1705
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: lot of countries out there, but also for US in

1706
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 1: our long term, potentially long term involvement in the conflict.

1707
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: Lots of reporting about our stockpiles being depleted. So there

1708
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: you go. Maybe you do need to invest in the

1709
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: military industrial complex. At least you get a return on

1710
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: your investment, notwithstanding the grave reality of why can I

1711
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 1: ask you a question, Brian James, if we spin the

1712
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: clock back, but basically a moment in time, OPEK had

1713
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: a stranglehold on US. I remember the embargo back in

1714
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: the seventies. I remember the price gasoling going up, I

1715
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 1: remember gasoline lines. We didn't have much by way of

1716
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 1: domestic production back then, But if, unfortunately we do now.

1717
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: Do you think that the fact that we do have

1718
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 1: so much more production of our own, either in our

1719
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: backyard or maybe like the Canadian oil fields, or perhaps

1720
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: because we took over ven as well as production, that

1721
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: that has softened the blow of what might be more

1722
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 1: worse economic news this morning.

1723
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's really one of the main reasons,

1724
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 6: because it used to be kind of bipolar. There were

1725
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 6: two teams, there was OPEC and everybody else. But that's

1726
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 6: not really the question anymore. Because the US has opened

1727
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:07,560
Speaker 6: up a lot of its own oil reserves due to

1728
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 6: law changes, technological changes with regard to fracking and so forth.

1729
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 3: So you have a little bit of history here.

1730
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 6: So so OPEC still represents about forty percent historically of

1731
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 6: total crude output about eighty percent of proven oil reserves

1732
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 6: around its members there, but it's not the sole price

1733
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 6: center anymore. Global supply also includes a lot of oil

1734
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 6: out of the US, USL, Brazil, Canada and other non

1735
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 6: OPEC producers. So there's just more involvement that the auction

1736
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 6: got bigger. There are more bidders out there to affect

1737
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 6: the market. It's not just everybody sitting around waiting for

1738
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 6: OPEC to tell us what to do.

1739
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: Basic economic principles supply and demand, greater supply. Actually this

1740
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: results in less volatility, which is a good thing. Question

1741
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 1: considering this one element, the price of oil and its

1742
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: global impact, that of course impacts the markets because we

1743
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: of course have international investments through a four to one

1744
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 1: case as well. But I wasn't shocked when you read

1745
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 1: than numbers. Twenty percent of global oil consumption and almost

1746
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 1: one quarter of global seaborne oil trade goes right there

1747
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 1: through the Strait of Hormuz twenty one miles wide. With

1748
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 1: shipping lanes only two miles across in each direction. It's tight,

1749
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,680
Speaker 1: it's close to Iran, it's right there, and by all

1750
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: accounts this morning, it's been effectively shut down. They're concerned

1751
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 1: about minds being placed and have all the problems will

1752
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: go along with that. So you're you're looking at a

1753
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: dense area there in terms of global oil shipment, but

1754
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily US that might be impact because my

1755
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 1: understanding is, and I've read it this morning, eighty four

1756
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: percent of the crude and eighty three percent of LNG

1757
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: goes through the Strait is going for Asia, China, India, Japan,

1758
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 1: and South Korea. Now might their economies be impacted by

1759
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 1: the shutdown of the straits too?

1760
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, but everything is still connected as much as we

1761
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 6: you know, the US is starting to take steps back

1762
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 6: away from globalization, we still have customers all over the world,

1763
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 6: So if their economies are are interrupted, then.

1764
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 3: That's going to affect ultimately the US.

1765
01:37:58,640 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1766
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 6: Well, so you know, there's there's really three paths that

1767
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 6: we're watching here. The first would be I would say

1768
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 6: a contained conflict, which means it just this, this is

1769
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 6: what we've seen in the past. The strikes remain focused on,

1770
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 6: you know, on the military types of targets, infrastructure stays undamaged,

1771
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 6: and the horror moves stays open.

1772
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 3: Oil could still go a little bit higher.

1773
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 6: Of course, fear logistics is always a thing, but that

1774
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 6: premium could go away, as you know, at once the

1775
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,600
Speaker 6: initial shock settles out and the oil flows proved to

1776
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 6: not have been erupted. So if that happens, the US

1777
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 6: economy will see it mostly through gasoline price increases, which

1778
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 6: we've been through this before, and of course more talk

1779
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 6: about inflation and.

1780
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 3: So forth gets a little worse.

1781
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 6: The bigger problem is is, as you kind of hinted

1782
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 6: out already, is infrastructure. So if Iran is not able

1783
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 6: to export as efficiently and quickly as they used to

1784
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 6: be able to and maybe possibly you know, permanently, then

1785
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 6: that's of course going to have a real loss of

1786
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 6: supply Iran. As you mentioned, Iran's exports are still pretty concentrated,

1787
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 6: so even if that's targeted, it's gonna make a lot

1788
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 6: of difference because of that whole global supply chain.

1789
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 3: This results in of course higher crew prices that would

1790
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 3: hang around a little longer.

1791
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 6: That's headline inflation, and again this is just this just

1792
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,560
Speaker 6: makes it a little bit worse than the idea that

1793
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 6: this is a quieter disruption than we've normally seen. But

1794
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 6: really I think the big thing is in anything that's

1795
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 6: going to tie up the horror moves for more than

1796
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 6: a week, that's really kind of the cutoff point where

1797
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,560
Speaker 6: we will be in somewhat uncharted waters. That's going to

1798
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 6: have a more a bigger impact, possibly on macroeconomics, meaning

1799
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 6: simply the bigger picture, not just a disruption, not just

1800
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 6: anger at the gas pump, something that's going to trickle

1801
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:31,799
Speaker 6: through to more industry.

1802
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 3: So we'll be watching this over the next week or

1803
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 3: so to see what the final impact is.

1804
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 1: Well, in your comments about globals, I mean oil is

1805
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: expressed in global supply, and if you take Iron's global

1806
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 1: supply out of it, you are obviously going to end

1807
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: up with less on the market. Of course, more increased

1808
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 1: price per barrel. I've read as high as one hundred

1809
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 1: and ten, although I've seen as low as well. It

1810
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 1: may spike to eighty. So there's this huge range of

1811
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 1: may might and speculation and tea leaf reading what we'll

1812
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: deal with when we come with it. But in terms

1813
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 1: of the percentage of global out put. Do you know

1814
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 1: offhand how much Iran represents in terms of that.

1815
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 6: It's significant enough that it's going to leave a mark,

1816
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,879
Speaker 6: But like you said before, they're not the only provider anymore.

1817
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 6: So we can look though at history and see what

1818
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 6: the impact has been over time, and this will this

1819
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 6: speaks directly to that question.

1820
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 3: So in nineteen seventy.

1821
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 6: Three, we had the Arab Israeli war, oil prices quadrupled

1822
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 6: after OPEC put the embargo in place. Now that was,

1823
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 6: of course, before our current situation where there are more

1824
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 6: players in the oil game. Yes, nineteen seventy nine, that

1825
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 6: was the Iranian Revolution and the oil prices roughly doubled then,

1826
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 6: pretty significant disruptions to production, and that played a role

1827
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 6: in what we like to talk about here all the

1828
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 6: time in terms of stagflation and the FED tightening stance.

1829
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 3: Back then.

1830
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 6: Then we moved to nineteen ninety, oil prices doubled during

1831
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 6: the Gulf War, but the US led coalition was able

1832
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 6: to step in and prevent that from having a larger impact.

1833
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 6: In two thousand and three, after nine to eleven, oil

1834
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 6: prices kind of stayed relatively modest increases Right before the invasion,

1835
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 6: and oil prices actually well right after because supply was

1836
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 6: not severely disrupted during that war, believe or not, so

1837
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 6: this can happen without disrupting the flow of oil. We'll

1838
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 6: just see if all parties want to worry about that.

1839
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: Well, And all I can interject is thank God for drill, baby, drill.

1840
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,560
Speaker 1: We are clearly in a much better position than we

1841
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 1: were even a couple of decades ago. Brian James will continue,

1842
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,640
Speaker 1: We're going to find out this morning about artificial intelligence

1843
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: driving volatility, that and more with Brian James stick around,

1844
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,719
Speaker 1: be right back after I mentioned speaking of energy USA insulation.

1845
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 1: Actually I believe it was my son just the other

1846
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: day talking about his friends complaining about these skyrocketing energy bills.

1847
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 1: Station eight nineteen fifty about kar CD talk station Happy Monday,

1848
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,680
Speaker 1: Monday Monday with Brian James, Muller Financial pivoting over to

1849
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: something that's driving a lot of fear, and I will

1850
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: admit to having a little bit of fear about artificial

1851
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 1: intelligence myself. Brian James don't understand it well enough, but

1852
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 1: I do know it may very well impact the UH well,

1853
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 1: a lot of people's jobs, a lot of people worried

1854
01:41:56,520 --> 01:42:00,520
Speaker 1: about job security. But what is driving the vola flatility

1855
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 1: about which you want to talk about this morning, Brian James.

1856
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 3: Well, there's a few pieces to this, right.

1857
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 6: So first off, AI is of course, just like anything,

1858
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 6: is also playing a role in the algorithmic program trading,

1859
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 6: so it's having a direct impact on transactions that do

1860
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 6: drive volatility in the market. We shouldn't be shocked at that.

1861
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 6: Every time there's a new technological innovation, it tends to

1862
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 6: find its way into the place where people make most

1863
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 6: of their.

1864
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 3: Money, which is the stock market.

1865
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:27,759
Speaker 6: So that's definitely, of course a factor here, but also

1866
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,560
Speaker 6: just the overall idea that right now AI is the

1867
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 6: catalyst driving the market. So there's always a catalyst pushing

1868
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 6: the market in some direction, right. So the original Internet

1869
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 6: wave in the late nineties when Yahoo and Google were

1870
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 6: a thing, that that was the catalyst. Then then we

1871
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 6: had real estate was a catalyst in the run up

1872
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 6: to the two thousand and eight disaster, and then it

1873
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,680
Speaker 6: became mobile technology, social media, so on.

1874
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 3: And so forth.

1875
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 6: Now the flavor of the week is artificial intelligence, and

1876
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 6: it pushes the markets in both directions. So let's take,

1877
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 6: for example, a week ago I'm gonna read you two

1878
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 6: headlines here from recent ups and downs in the market.

1879
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 6: So this came out about six days ago, little less

1880
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 6: than a week. US stocks rise after getting a reminder

1881
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:10,639
Speaker 6: of AI's potential upsides.

1882
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 3: It's an ap news headline. Three days ago, US stocks

1883
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:15,640
Speaker 3: sink and oil prices.

1884
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 6: Rise as worries about AI inflation and possible war hit

1885
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 6: Wall Street. So AI is good news and bad news

1886
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 6: pay apparently, depending on the mood that you're in.

1887
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, Well, in terms of I think about it

1888
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 1: in terms of investing, and my son is involved in

1889
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 1: some trading and he's actually been doing quite well. But

1890
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, he gets something he's in for like five

1891
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 1: minutes and he's out, he gets his five percent hit,

1892
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 1: he goes home, and it really works. Who's going to

1893
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: be doing, I mean, is artificial intelligence is going to

1894
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:44,560
Speaker 1: be making the sort of picking of stocks and the

1895
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 1: selection of stocks along those lines. Is it going to

1896
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 1: be I mean, I hate to say this out loud,

1897
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 1: but removing you from an area of necessity.

1898
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 6: Brian James, Well, that's not what we do anyway. So yeah,

1899
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 6: we have very different approach in terms of that. What

1900
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 6: you're talking about is day trading there and is already Yeah,

1901
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 6: that's definitely not mean we're we're running the other way

1902
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 6: from that approach. My role is to basically help people pull,

1903
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 6: drag them back from the one tree that they're staring at,

1904
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 6: so that you can see the entire forest of their situation,

1905
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 6: figure out what their resources are, and frankly, what they

1906
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 6: can get away with in retirement in terms of timing

1907
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 6: and the cash flow and all that other fun stuff.

1908
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 6: I am not worried about what stock XYZ is going

1909
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 6: to do in the next five minutes versus ABC. Nothing

1910
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 6: wrong with that approach, it's just a different I don't

1911
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 6: think there's a lot of value in providing that to

1912
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,599
Speaker 6: other people because there's just too much, you know, there's

1913
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 6: too much unpredictability in it.

1914
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Speaker 3: And that's not what people tend to worry about anyway.

1915
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Speaker 6: It's all it all tends to be about, how do

1916
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 6: I take care of myself and my family, do what

1917
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Speaker 6: I want to do without being changed at a desk

1918
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Speaker 6: for the rest of my life at a little different approach.

1919
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Speaker 1: And I guess the other component is you and I.

1920
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody really knows how this is ultimately

1921
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 1: going to shake out. It's new technology, and quite often

1922
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 1: it takes time for all of us to adjust to it.

1923
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: And eventually the new technology makes way for new types

1924
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Speaker 1: of jobs. And we since we can't necessarily envision where

1925
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: these new industries and areas are right now when this

1926
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 1: new technology is rolling out, it's almost like it's amazing

1927
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: that we end up landing on our feet down the road,

1928
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: given the gloom and doom stories we read about the

1929
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Speaker 1: new technology. When we've been through this before.

1930
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, and this isn't new, And just because we're talking

1931
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 6: about it this morning doesn't mean we're we are calling

1932
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 6: the attention of the smart money in the world that

1933
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 6: they should be looking at AI and figuring how to

1934
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:24,959
Speaker 6: how to use it in money management scenarios.

1935
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Speaker 3: It's already happening. It's been happening for a while.

1936
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,799
Speaker 6: So there are AI driven trading systems that will literally

1937
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 6: look across the entire order book, across all exchanges, and

1938
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 6: they're looking for inefficiencies. I can buy something at this

1939
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 6: store and send and sell it over here at this

1940
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 6: other store and keep the difference.

1941
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 3: That's really what the that's arbitrage.

1942
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 6: Basically, AI can do it a lot more quickly than

1943
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 6: humanize and even you know some of the past technological

1944
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 6: tools we've out they had out there, Trades get executed

1945
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 6: in milliseconds. Microstructural changes come around and uh, and those

1946
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 6: are reacted to instantaneously, far different than when human beings

1947
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 6: are the only ones pulling the levers.

1948
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: Well, the speed at which we trade now, which you

1949
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 1: just pointed out microseconds, is that ultimately, in the end,

1950
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: that's an improvement that's working to our advantage. That it

1951
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 1: doesn't take you communicating with some guy on a trading floor,

1952
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 1: swap and paper with another guy on the trading floor

1953
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 1: and engaging this longer process to get the trade done right.

1954
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then for those of you thinking, Okay, I'm

1955
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 6: just a regular Joe, I want to take advantage of this.

1956
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 6: How do I do it and keep my day job? Well,

1957
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 6: you kind of really don't. Long gone are the days

1958
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 6: where your broker would call you, leave you a message

1959
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 6: on a pink slip of paper. Hey, what do you

1960
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 6: think about X y Z call me back. No, we're

1961
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 6: down to microseconds. Nobody cares what the end to customer

1962
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 6: thinks of it. It's just going to happen because it

1963
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 6: has to happen.

1964
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Speaker 3: That quickly.

1965
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 6: We don't get the the pleasure or the opportunity to

1966
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 6: review and take a breath and think. That's where AI

1967
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 6: is leading us away from that human moment where a

1968
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 6: brain needs to stop and take a breath and think

1969
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 6: about it.

1970
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's all good, but that's what this

1971
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 3: is about.

1972
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: Speed speed, speed, speed, speed, speed, and just starting to

1973
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 1: shout out of my head. Say with the frozen orange

1974
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 1: juice market trading places, those days are gone, right and.

1975
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 3: The g I Joe doll with the kung fu grip,

1976
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 3: yeso is long and long in the past. That's right.

1977
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: Another good one. It's just shy of eight twenty five.

1978
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: We'll continue. We got one more to talk about everything

1979
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 1: that's happened in the world. But look, the economy is

1980
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 1: remaining resilient. That's five K the talk station A twenty

1981
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 1: eight fifty five K see the talks station Rigga mcgonald

1982
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 1: from Hudson and Suit on energy. What the Middle East

1983
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: conflict's going to do to that and for you and

1984
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 1: I we talked a little about that with Brian James

1985
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 1: on the phone right now all Worth Financials. Brian James,

1986
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 1: let's pivot over to some good news I guess Brian,

1987
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 1: we got a resilient economy in spite of all the

1988
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 1: chaos going on in the world.

1989
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 6: Well, we do have the ability to see you usually

1990
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 6: passed the chaos a little bit, and that's why, as

1991
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,839
Speaker 6: we were talking about earlier, the market doesn't completely collapse

1992
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 6: with the kind of scary headlines we can get over

1993
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 6: the weekend. At the end of the day, cooler heads

1994
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 6: do prevail, and we realize that while we do have conflicts,

1995
01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 6: money still moves in a circle and we'll continue to

1996
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,560
Speaker 6: do so throughout We saw. You know, you can go

1997
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 6: back through history and figure out in World War Two,

1998
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 6: the stock market wasn't down, didn't It didn't just drop

1999
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 6: off a cliff until it hit zero and then sit

2000
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 6: there until the war was over and then we moved on.

2001
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 3: That's not how it works. Money moves in a circle

2002
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 3: no matter what.

2003
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 6: So we do have the ability to still look at

2004
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 6: the economy and just recognize that even if we're on

2005
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 6: somewhat of a wartime footing, that doesn't mean that we

2006
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 6: need to start making decisions drastically differently.

2007
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: Well, what about producer inflation, what about consumer confidence and

2008
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 1: jobless claims and all these things I know mortgage rates

2009
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 1: have come down.

2010
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, and these so we're in a somewhat good situation

2011
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 6: with regard to all this. There's always there's always something

2012
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 6: to be scared about. But you mentioned like mortgage and

2013
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 6: mortgage rates are moving in a positive direction. They are

2014
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 6: down over the last couple three years. If you're somebody

2015
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 6: who was stuck with an eight percent mortgage and you

2016
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 6: were mad that you had to sign on the dotted

2017
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 6: line with that interest rate on the form, well you

2018
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 6: might want to start paying attention because we are getting

2019
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 6: down into the lower sixes and it may be time

2020
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 6: for you to pull the trigger on that refinance.

2021
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 3: People have to move, and that that's not a choice

2022
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 3: everybody gets.

2023
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 6: So it does seem that housing situations are starting to

2024
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 6: loosen up a little bit in terms of those who

2025
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 6: didn't wanted to hold off for a better situation are

2026
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 6: now starting to pull the trigger.

2027
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 3: So we're starting to see a little more.

2028
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 6: Flexibility there in a little bit more of a buyer's

2029
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 6: market than we've seen lately.

2030
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 1: Well that may be the case, but the home prices

2031
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 1: themselves have not dropped. I mean, I would imagine with

2032
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 1: a lower interest rate, the prices might increase, given that

2033
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 1: more people might be inclined to jump into the market.

2034
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, this is definitely not about pricing. This is

2035
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 6: about not the price of the house itself. It's the

2036
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 6: overall cost of owning it. But with interest rates having dropped,

2037
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 6: you know, if you look at the percentage decrease, we're

2038
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 6: actually down about fifteen percent on interest rates. You go

2039
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 6: down from eight to you know, six and a half,

2040
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 6: then that's a larger chunk than you might be thinking.

2041
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 6: So the monthly payment can be a little more palatable

2042
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 6: now to somebody who knew they were going to have

2043
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 6: to move in the relatively short term. So therefore, where

2044
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:55,600
Speaker 6: they weren't going to pull the trigger a couple of

2045
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 6: years ago, we'll just grin and Barrett with this house

2046
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 6: we're not really thrilled with anymore. Now we're in a

2047
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 6: situation where people are saying, Okay, it's just time to

2048
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 6: do this. It may not be perfect, but it's better

2049
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,640
Speaker 6: than it was, so let's go ahead and make the decision.

2050
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 1: All right. In terms of jobless claims, I would think that, well,

2051
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 1: given AI, it's going to perplace everybody's job and replace

2052
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 1: it with a computer algorithm that might be a little

2053
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: concern on that one. But where are we in terms

2054
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:20,759
Speaker 1: of the current jobless situation.

2055
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 6: Well, late late February, initial jobless claims rose to about

2056
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 6: two hundred and twelve thousand, up about four thousand from

2057
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 6: the week before. That was below expectations. That was the

2058
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 6: bumpy one. We got a little bit not too long ago.

2059
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 6: The four week moving average slightly hired to about two

2060
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:39,560
Speaker 6: hundred and twenty thousand, So jobless claims relatively stable in

2061
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:42,719
Speaker 6: recent weeks. Now we'll see, we've got these these headlines

2062
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 6: we just got over the weekend. We'll see if that

2063
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 6: has a direct impact. I think it's going to take

2064
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 6: a while for that to trickle all the way through

2065
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 6: the economy to the jobless numbers. But at the same time,

2066
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 6: people are paying attention and we're going to be thinking.

2067
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 6: Businesses are going to be making big decisions based on visibility.

2068
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,719
Speaker 6: This is how we let off this whole this morning

2069
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,600
Speaker 6: was the market absolutely hates lack of visibility. It's not

2070
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 6: scary headlines, we can handle that. It's the fact that

2071
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 6: we can't really get a good feel and kind of

2072
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 6: predict with any level of confidence what's coming. So therefore

2073
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,879
Speaker 6: companies tend to pull in and just get real conservative

2074
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 6: in the shorter run. Here we'll see if that holds true.

2075
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Well, I know everybody's got the memos an election year

2076
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 1: in November, Oh my god. And inflation is big concern.

2077
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 1: Democrats are screaming affordability, affordability, affordability, and that may be

2078
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: on the rise inflation just looking at the potential increase

2079
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 1: in the price of oil, which obviously impacts literally everything

2080
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: that we do. But where's inflation? At least as of

2081
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 1: this moment in time.

2082
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 6: Inflation is tame right now, We're not We're still stuck

2083
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 6: at that kind of happy place, happy ish place where

2084
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 6: we would really prefer, we would super like it to

2085
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 6: be around two percent, but we're stuck around three And

2086
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 6: we've been in this range for a long time now,

2087
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 6: and so I think all bets are off now for

2088
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 6: what we thought we knew over the past several months.

2089
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 6: We need a little bit of time to let it

2090
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 6: soak through with regard to what is what are oil prices, what.

2091
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 3: Kind of impact is that going to have? And frankly,

2092
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 3: how long is this going to last?

2093
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 6: I think the real difference here it's not conflict in

2094
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 6: the Middle East, because that's been around for a while,

2095
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 6: that ebbs and flows.

2096
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 3: It's the straight hoh horn moves. I think that's the

2097
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 3: big difference. We have not had a.

2098
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 6: Situation where it has been closed off for a period

2099
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 6: for a long period of time, So that's gonna be

2100
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 6: one of the big questions we have to answer over

2101
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 6: the next couple of weeks.

2102
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 1: Well, in spite of the whaling and nashing of teeth

2103
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,919
Speaker 1: about inflation, generally speaking, I see that the consumer confidence

2104
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 1: has actually risen.

2105
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that is because, you know, as

2106
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 6: I talk to you know, clients, every day, we see

2107
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 6: these headlines. We're trying to plan around it, and people

2108
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 6: react differently than they did in the you know, I've

2109
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 6: been doing this for thirty years. People react differently now

2110
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 6: than they used to. Used to be, these headlines were

2111
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 6: absolutely deal killers and we just simply can't handle any

2112
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 6: kind of volatility at all. Now it's just taken for granted.

2113
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 3: This is no fun. The stinks. But I've seen it

2114
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:55,639
Speaker 3: before many, many times.

2115
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 6: You know, I think a lot of people who are

2116
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 6: you know, maybe near retirement age now, we're brought up

2117
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 6: during the eighties and the nineties when there really weren't

2118
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 6: any scary headlines at all. And now ever since the

2119
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 6: turn of the century, it's been every couple three years

2120
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 6: we have some showstopper of a headline that should terrify.

2121
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 6: So I think we're becoming a little more numb to it.

2122
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 6: Callus is a good thing, exactly, We've got a little

2123
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 6: thicker skin and we are able to react, let things recover,

2124
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 6: and then react versus reacting to the initial headline.

2125
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 1: Well that's a great development.

2126
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:23,680
Speaker 2: You know.

2127
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 1: Clickbait is what fuels those outrageous headlines, and so people

2128
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 1: are finally coming around to the notion that just because

2129
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: the headline is, oh my god, we're all gonna die

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Speaker 1: look back at history. No, that didn't happen, did it?

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Speaker 6: Maybe exempt from or maybe you know, maybe maybe we're

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Speaker 6: just not as you know, touchy as we used to be.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we're acting. Yeah, well that's I was going a

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Speaker 3: little more positive, but you said it. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Brian Jays, thank you for joining the program every Monday

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Speaker 1: to do money Monday, look forward to next Monday. And

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Speaker 1: another another informative topic was in station Hey forty fifty

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Speaker 1: five KCD talk station, Happy Monday. Try to make it

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Speaker 1: so anyway, and I guess gurd your lluin's for the

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Speaker 1: gas pump coming up. Thank you. Brigham Accown from the

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Speaker 1: Hudson Institute, our energy policy expert, joined the program this

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Speaker 1: morning to talk about just that maybe a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Brigham account, Welcome back, my friends. Great having you on

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 8: Hi Brian, thanks great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Hudson dot Org is where you find Brigham in the

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01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 1: team at the Hudson Institute. I recommend you do that

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Speaker 1: all right straight at Horror Moves seems to be the bottleneck.

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01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 1: We got a problem there. It's effectively shut down from

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01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: while everything I've read this morning, they've been jamming the

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01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:29,640
Speaker 1: GPS signals for the ships. They've threatened to blow them up.

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01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 1: They actually have attacked three of them. Fog of war's

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01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 1: a little difficult, but clearly with that much oil, like

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Speaker 1: twenty percent of the daily global consumption goes to that

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01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 1: tiny little stretch it is. And we talked about this

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Speaker 1: with Brian James a moment ago. Energy prices are going

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Speaker 1: to go up, and thankfully we ain't in the OPEC

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Speaker 1: dominant years back in the seventies. We're going to have

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Speaker 1: a better opportunity to to keep the supply up to

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Speaker 1: maybe it won't be as bad. What's your take on

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Speaker 1: this Brigham account.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, Brian, you've already nailed it. I don't even

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01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 8: need to say anything. No, in all seriousness, Yeah, this

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01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:09,919
Speaker 8: straight over moves is not it's functionally disrupted. That disruption

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Speaker 8: has been driven by two things. Obviously the risk of

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Speaker 8: anti ship missiles and attacks from Iran and its proxies.

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Speaker 8: But really one of the things we're not talking about

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Speaker 8: yet you're going to hear a lot more about today

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01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 8: is a lot of this is going to be driven

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Speaker 8: by the insurance markets, not navies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I read that they're canceling the insurance policies. Effectively,

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Speaker 1: they are.

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Speaker 8: They are withdrawing their war risk coverage.

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Speaker 1: Think about that.

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Speaker 8: You can get insurance against war for the Persian Gulf,

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01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 8: and what that means is without the war risk insurance,

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Speaker 8: ship owners are reluctant to transit, charters will not contract,

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Speaker 8: and banks are not going to finance these voyages. So

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Speaker 8: hundreds of tankers are either anchored or erotic. Now, the

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Speaker 8: good news for America is, as you pointed out, we're

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Speaker 8: not dependent on Middle East or no oil aying longer,

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Speaker 8: and that twenty percent of world volume mainly headed to

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Speaker 8: a Yeah, and the number one supplier is China, So

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Speaker 8: they've got a bigger problem than we've got right now.

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Speaker 8: And you know, we'll see how long this goes on

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Speaker 8: for because as you know, there are stockpiles in place.

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01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 8: Most places have thirty to forty five days supply. Short

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Speaker 8: term prices are up about ten percent today. The longer term,

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Speaker 8: we'll see how long this lasts.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, the litigation attorney to me that did

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Speaker 1: a lot of insurance coverage litigation is quick to sort

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Speaker 1: of glom onto the Wait a second, it sounds to

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Speaker 1: me like these insurers of these ships during offering these

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Speaker 1: wartime policies, maybe at a risk of a bad faith lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: It's like if my insurance company canceled my paid for

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Speaker 1: and in place fire insurance while a fire was raging

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Speaker 1: in my home. I could probably see them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you could.

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Speaker 8: And war risk insurance covers. I mean, this is this

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Speaker 8: is crazy stuff, right, covers, missile attacks, drone attacks, mines, terrorism.

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Speaker 8: This creates a mark driven choke point even without a blockade.

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Speaker 8: If the insurers are able to cancel.

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Speaker 1: Policies, well, it sounds meal like it's probably a dollar

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Speaker 1: for dollar coverage brig them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah it is. It's prepaid insurance, I guess, but you know,

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Speaker 8: I think you know. Back to oil price outlook, they're

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Speaker 8: elevated based on risk premium right, likely trading in the

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Speaker 8: load to mid eighties today there are futures around seventy

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Speaker 8: five to seventy eight. But what we'll call the markets

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Speaker 8: is restoration of the war risk insurance or a clear

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Speaker 8: protection of shipping lanes like the United States did back

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Speaker 8: during the Desert Storm War. When I was there, we

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Speaker 8: used the US flag tankers and US warship. That may

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Speaker 8: be a little bit different deal today. So far, the

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Speaker 8: US and it's coalition partners have hit more than a

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Speaker 8: thousand targets. The idea now that they have complete air

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Speaker 8: supremacy is to knock out everything that can launch something.

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Speaker 1: Well, given that China is so heavily relying on the

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Speaker 1: Iranian oil supply as with other Asian nations, doesn't this

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Speaker 1: provide an incentive for them to not try to protract this?

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Speaker 1: In other words, help the Iranians fend off this attack,

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Speaker 1: because if we get a stable irun in spite of

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Speaker 1: the fact they're no longer a thorn in the western side,

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Speaker 1: you know, militarily long term objective. It will free up

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Speaker 1: their oil and drive the prices down.

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Speaker 8: It will, And you know, what some people have pointed

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Speaker 8: to is a little bit of a three D chess

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Speaker 8: game going on. China has a lot of those critical

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Speaker 8: minerals we've talked about on the program, but they are

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Speaker 8: so highly reliant seventy plus percent on external oil sources.

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Speaker 8: Venezuela gone, Iran possibly gone. What's happening is their sources

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Speaker 8: of oil are being removed from the global market. That's

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Speaker 8: not by accident, that's intentional. So China doesn't want to

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Speaker 8: see the regime fail, and so I think one of

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Speaker 8: the things they'll be doing is try to broker a

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Speaker 8: peace deal. Hey guys, let's stop this. The more and

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Speaker 8: longer this goes on, and the more targets Iran hits,

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Speaker 8: including into the Gulf neighbors, the less appetite there is

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Speaker 8: to let this regime continue.

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Speaker 1: Well in timing is rather interesting, and some are suggesting

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Speaker 1: that the this was an intentional timing thing. We launched

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Speaker 1: the attack on Iran after we kind of shored things

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Speaker 1: up in Venezuela, keeping their supply of oil on and

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Speaker 1: actually maybe improving the supply of oil out of Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: The very corrupt and incompetent nation it well it probably

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Speaker 1: still is, but certainly was under the Maduro regime.

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Speaker 8: Well that's true. We'll have to see how Venzuela goes.

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01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 8: I think you know what the current administration has learned

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Speaker 8: is this notion of nation building hasn't gone so well.

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Speaker 8: It's on the ground not gone so well. So you

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Speaker 8: know the strategy they're applying and we'll see if it

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01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 8: works is eliminate the threat and move on. And if

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Speaker 8: you resume the threat, we'll come back and do it

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Speaker 8: to you again.

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Speaker 1: Breg McCown, I want to bring it back to ask

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Speaker 1: you about what's going on here in the state of Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Headline leaked GOP bill would allow for electric companies to

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Speaker 1: open care CD talk station. Brian Thomas with Hudson Institute

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Speaker 1: find them online at Hudson dot org. Bring him account

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Speaker 1: our energy policy expert. He does know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 1: I think all my listeners remember first Energy House Bill

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Speaker 1: six that resulted in the end of Larry Householder, the

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Speaker 1: trial of executives involved in it, kind of like a

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Speaker 1: pay to play scheme here, you bail me out with

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Speaker 1: a billion dollars because I have a struggling nuclear or

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Speaker 1: have struggling nuclear facilities, and we'll give you fat bank

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Speaker 1: and response. So that's still unfolding and playing out. But

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Speaker 1: I guess, first off, as we pivot over to this

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Speaker 1: new described as leaked GOP bill, why and how is

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Speaker 1: it that First Energy was struggling with their nuclear facilities

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Speaker 1: and even needed a bailout. I thought nuclear power was

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Speaker 1: good and it worked well, But is there something going

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Speaker 1: on behind the scenes, like maybe too many regulations or

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Speaker 1: something associated with using nuclear power? Brigham?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the capital costs up front for nuclear power is enormous,

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Speaker 8: and that's something a current administration and secretary right is

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Speaker 8: trying to get under control of The last reactor, of course,

2278
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Speaker 8: that went online down in Georgia, the volctal reactor, I think,

2279
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Speaker 8: cost twice as much as it was expected to cost

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Speaker 8: from the beginning. That's frankly because of the permitting process

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Speaker 8: and not not yes, although government permitting not necessarily environmental permitting,

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Speaker 8: although that can play an issue, But the National Regulatory Commission,

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Speaker 8: the NRC, seems to have spent more time avoiding licensing

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Speaker 8: nuclear reactors during the history of its lifetime than it

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Speaker 8: has actually getting them done. Plus, the industry has some

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Speaker 8: fault here because there are not two reactors in America

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Speaker 8: that are the same. Right, It's like guys build the

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Speaker 8: same car, license it, and then build it again.

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Speaker 3: Not that hard.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you a really quick sort of

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Speaker 1: tongue in cheet question, Briga mccawan. Does the military have

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Speaker 1: to go through the same regulatory process that people out

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Speaker 1: here in the real world go through? Because are my

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Speaker 1: submarine or friend curubage Mike's out there, he was on

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Speaker 1: a nuclear powered sub That thing had been in action

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Speaker 1: for like decades. That's what happens with nuclear powered subs

2297
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:59,720
Speaker 1: and aircraft carries in alike. The things last for like

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Speaker 1: twenty to forty years, and they've been used since the

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Speaker 1: late nineteen fifties. They have no problem with them, Brigham,

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Speaker 1: how come we can't have some of those?

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Speaker 8: Well they don't in the new versions of those reactors

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Speaker 8: may not even need to be refueled ever during the

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Speaker 8: entire fifty plus year lifespan. Yeah, you're right, And we're

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Speaker 8: talking about small modular reactors. Now, that's what the Navy's

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Speaker 8: done since frankly the nineteen fifties, and no, it is

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Speaker 8: a slightly differencing different program. The Bureau of Naval Reactors

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Speaker 8: in the Navy does talk closely with the DOE, but

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Speaker 8: the designs are simpler, they're consistent. We don't have eighty

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Speaker 8: nine designs. We have far fewer, so it's much easier

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Speaker 8: to do. But you know, Brian, you're really getting back

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Speaker 8: to diltimate questions. Why is the GOP wanting to return

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Speaker 8: and move us away from? Quite frankly, you know, we

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Speaker 8: moved away from utility companies being able to own their

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Speaker 8: own generation and allowing regulated utilities to own their own

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Speaker 8: generation inside a competitive market. It distorts wholesale pricing. It's

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Speaker 8: frankly not very capitalistic. And to your point that twenty

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Speaker 8: nineteen seemed yesterday, and I think they're going to have

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Speaker 8: some issues here.

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Speaker 1: Oh they are. And I got a kick out of this, shocking.

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Speaker 1: No one has any understanding of how legislation is written.

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Speaker 1: Local wcpo's Morgan Trouse seems like appalled at the idea

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Speaker 1: that this was the particular legislation we're talking about here

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Speaker 1: was co written by an energy company. That's what they do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, our elected officials don't know jack squat about energy,

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Speaker 1: so they have to rely on folks in the no

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Speaker 1: lobbyists for the energy companies. Right, stuff handed to the legislators,

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Speaker 1: they look at it, they have it explained to them.

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Speaker 1: It's pre prepared and if it looks appealing and as

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Speaker 1: it's written, it seems appealing and it's good for the Ohiolans,

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Speaker 1: then that's how you get something written. If you left

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Speaker 1: it to any one of our elected officials to literally

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Speaker 1: write something on their own, nothing would get done.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, if I may in our closing minutes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: The reason it distorts the market is you have two scenarios. One,

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Speaker 8: you have the utility companies that own all their stuff.

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Speaker 8: That's in several states other states like US, the electric

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Speaker 8: company buys power from a generator, a different company that

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Speaker 8: is privately backed, privately funded, hence private risk. When you

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Speaker 8: allow the utility company to own their own generation, now

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Speaker 8: that becomes a public risk and we're all going.

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Speaker 3: To pay for it.

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Speaker 1: Is that why our energy bills are going up? Brigham account?

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Speaker 1: You just have to answer that final question for a

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Speaker 1: part company. Mine have gone through the roof, and is

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Speaker 1: it just the price of energy. Is this the transmission

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Speaker 1: lines that they're busily rebuilding or extending. Why are we

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Speaker 1: all paying so much more on our energy bills?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's There are numerous factors, but the bottom line

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Speaker 8: is the energy company can just pass costs along to you.

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Speaker 8: There's no incentive not.

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Speaker 2: To do that.

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Speaker 1: And the old days they used to build it and

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Speaker 1: then recoup the cost after it was built. Right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's true, not the way it is anymore. That Sorry,

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Speaker 1: we have you, Brigham account to explain all these things

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Speaker 1: to us. We're going to get you back on the

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Speaker 1: show for a full hour in studio to talk broader

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Speaker 1: energy energy policy, and maybe we'll do that again real soon. Brigham.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your willingness to come on the program and

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Speaker 1: talk with my listeners and me.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, And you've just give me a couple of ideas

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Speaker 8: for charged conversation.

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Speaker 1: So glad you mentioned