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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's News radio.

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Speaker 2: Where we have our guest our scheduled guests for this hour,

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Speaker 2: albeit a little bit late. I'm Dan Voroni, founder of

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Speaker 2: Potomac Care.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to be with you.

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Speaker 4: Tell us a little bit. I had you on the

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Speaker 4: show with me.

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Speaker 2: I think it was on February eleventh, and we were

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Speaker 2: talking about the US economy that has, of course been

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Speaker 2: a major issue. Democrats have been emphasizing the affordability issue

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Speaker 2: that people are finding their grocery store shopping more expensive.

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Speaker 2: The gas prices. Even though they've dropped down, they still

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Speaker 2: feel that there are many items out there that are

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Speaker 2: more expensive. Tell us a little bit about your company,

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Speaker 2: and also about the book that we talked about, and

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Speaker 2: we'll come back to that. But you're the founder of

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Speaker 2: a company called Potomac Care. What does Potomac Care do?

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Speaker 2: And you not an economist, but you describe yourself as

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Speaker 2: a financial.

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Speaker 3: Advisor, economic strategist, economic strategy.

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Speaker 4: Strategists, Okay, for companies, for companies.

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Speaker 3: No, actually tell you what My company is called Potomac

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Speaker 3: Core Consulting. We do market research and strategy work for

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Speaker 3: trade associations here in the Greater Washington, DC area and

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Speaker 3: around the country. In addition, I'm an author and I

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Speaker 3: do economic strategy in economic analysis on the basis of

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Speaker 3: the work that I do as an author.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we will talk later on about the book.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's let's let's start again. As I say,

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Speaker 2: a little bit late here, so I want to try

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Speaker 2: the conversation. The President is telling us that we're in

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Speaker 2: America's golden age and that the economy has never been better,

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Speaker 2: But all the poll seems to suggest that people are

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Speaker 2: not happy with the economy. Now, I know that people's

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Speaker 2: thoughts about the economy are a little viewed by from

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Speaker 2: which political party they may be beginning from. But how

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Speaker 2: do where do you see this economy over the past year?

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Speaker 2: What are the pluses and what are the minuses that

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Speaker 2: you've seen develop over the last year since the since

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Speaker 2: President Trump was reinaugurated in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Well, essentially, what I saw is I saw the Republican

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Speaker 3: majorities in the House and Senate come together to pass

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Speaker 3: the Big Beautiful Bill legislation, and that is the centerpiece

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Speaker 3: of the Trump economic policy. And within that policy, there

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Speaker 3: are tax cuts. The tax cuts are intended to put

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Speaker 3: money in people's pockets and to drive wage growth and

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Speaker 3: job growth. Let meew examples of what I mean. So

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Speaker 3: from a wage growth wage growth, it's up at four percent.

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Speaker 3: What's good about that is that we've got inflation down

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Speaker 3: to about two point four percent. So when people getting

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Speaker 3: pay increases, pay increases are exceeding inflation, which is a

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Speaker 3: big win over the last year. The second win is

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Speaker 3: starting this year as a result of the Big Beautiful Bill.

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Speaker 3: The withholding rates are on taxes on federal taxes are

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Speaker 3: lower than they were a year ago. So that means

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Speaker 3: that everyone should have noticed in their paychecks this year

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Speaker 3: Security up to a point, both up to a point.

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Speaker 3: But what they do is is they give people working

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Speaker 3: In addition to that, on the job creation side, UH,

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Speaker 3: as part of this big beautiful bill, UH, small small

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Speaker 3: businesses specific specifically have got the ability to write off

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent in the first year purchases of new

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Speaker 3: We're seeing it come together. UH. The capital investments are

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Speaker 3: up year over year. That's the big win. And why

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Speaker 3: I think what I'm sharing with you is that we've

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Speaker 3: continue to increase. I think business investment will increase, which

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Speaker 4: Okay, now, the criticism is that the stock market has

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Speaker 2: Well today, but overall it's been trending upward. And many

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Speaker 2: people will say, look, people who are highly invested in

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Speaker 2: is whether they realize they're not invested in the stock market.

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Speaker 2: But they're saying that maybe Wall Street's doing well, but

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Speaker 2: the argument is that people on Main Street aren't doing well.

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Speaker 2: Do you accept that argument or is it that the

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Speaker 2: main street economy is a trailing is not a leading indicator,

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Speaker 2: it's a trailing indicator.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I would offer that for those in the

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Speaker 3: invested in the stock market as a result of you're

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Speaker 3: for a one K, if you're a middle career professional,

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Speaker 3: you're in the stock market because if you're for one K,

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Speaker 3: I think that there's quite a bit of participation in

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, more people are invest in the

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Speaker 4: My guess is Dan Vorone. He's the founder of Potomac Core.

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Speaker 4: That's the correct title.

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Speaker 2: If I missed that before, I apologize, he's an economic strategist.

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Speaker 2: As an economic strategist, do you see companies private companies?

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump made a point the other night in the

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Speaker 2: in the State of the Union that they have actually

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Speaker 2: laid off more people in the federal government than they've hired,

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Speaker 2: so in for the first time in a long time,

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Speaker 2: hiring in the government is flat. At what point do

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Speaker 2: you think the hiring is going to bump up? I mean,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty thousand jobs per month is not

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Speaker 2: a bad number, but it's not a blow your socks

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Speaker 2: to see hiring step up to accommodate all this new

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Speaker 3: You know, I have an important historical parallel. I went

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Speaker 3: eighty three. The economy started to improve eighteen to twenty

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Speaker 3: four months. The good news is that President Trump signed

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Speaker 3: his tax legislation in July of last year July of

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Speaker 3: retroactive to January of last year. I believe as we

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Speaker 2: My guest is Dan Baroni. He's the founder of Potomac Core.

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Speaker 2: He's an economic strategist for trade associations.

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Speaker 4: He knows a.

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Speaker 2: Lot about the economy and if you have questions, if

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Speaker 2: you're not feeling good about the economy, feel free to

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Speaker 2: call and ask questions. There are certain items that people

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Speaker 2: buy right now. For example, coffee and chocolate are two

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Speaker 2: very expensive products. Those costs have not come down, and

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Speaker 2: there's someone who likes chocolate and likes coffee. There are factors,

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Speaker 2: There are factors there there, but but important things that

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Speaker 2: have come down. The most important, uh price that I

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Speaker 2: be good for the in my opinion, good for the economy. Dan,

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Speaker 2: I want to take a quick break here. We do

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Speaker 2: newscast at the bottom of the hour and maybe get

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Speaker 2: some phone calls on the other side.

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Speaker 4: See if people want to call and talk about bear experience.

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Speaker 2: And maybe you can do some economic strategy for them,

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Speaker 2: uh And, and we can talk with them about how

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Speaker 2: there beer economy can be can be improved. If obviously,

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Speaker 2: if the economy does not improve, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a tough November for Republicans and it will be a

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Speaker 2: tough final two years for President Trump. If, on the

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Speaker 2: other hand, the economy does improve and the Republicans benefit

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Speaker 2: from that, it could be it could turn Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: into a much more significant president.

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Speaker 4: It's as simple.

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Speaker 2: As that, uh And and I can't put it any

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Speaker 2: more simply. We'll take a break. My guess, Dan Varoni

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Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray. Hey, Dan Boston's News Radio.

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Speaker 2: My guest is that Dan Veroni, Dan, let's let's look

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Speaker 2: into your crystal ball. You're suggesting that you've given me

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Speaker 2: some numbers that I'm sure President Trump would like. How

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Speaker 2: confident are you that we are on the right track

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Speaker 2: and we're going in the right direction. I mean, listening

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Speaker 2: to Donald Trump the other night, do you think it was all,

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Speaker 2: you know, strawberries and cream. But there are people who

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Speaker 2: are who are struggling. There'll always be people who are struggling,

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Speaker 2: and the point is to bring as many of those

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Speaker 2: people along as possible. Will this be, in your opinion,

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Speaker 2: a recovery that will continue and will really help a

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Speaker 2: lot of people, both, you know, people who are at

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Speaker 3: So I think it's going to be a rise and

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Speaker 3: tide that lifts the boat's economy. I feel very good

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Speaker 3: the people at the middle up. And I feel very

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Speaker 3: good about it on the basis of the investments being

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Speaker 3: made and those investments are being driven by these tax cuts.

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Speaker 3: What I will tell you is is that small business

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Speaker 3: comprises ninety nine point nine percent of the companies in

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Speaker 3: the US. Two of three new jobs created or created

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Speaker 3: by small business. And when small business has the ability

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Speaker 3: to invest, as they do as a result of these

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Speaker 3: investments and they will bring on more workers. As they

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Speaker 3: bring on more workers, hiring across the board will improve. Secondly,

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Speaker 3: where do we stand.

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Speaker 4: On building manufacturing plants.

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Speaker 2: I mean, a big part of the President's proposals are

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Speaker 4: That's part of his tariff strategy. As I'm sure you

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Speaker 3: Yes, what I would say to you is that manufacturing

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Speaker 3: is nine percent of the US economy, and that is

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Speaker 3: dangerously low. From my perspective, I'd like to see it

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Speaker 2: All right, well said, great summation. Let's go to the

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Speaker 4: On twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Hi, I have a question. You said that the

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Speaker 3: So that's that's a great question. So the withholding rates

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Speaker 3: We learned late last week that our middle child, our daughter,

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Speaker 2: When did the lower rates go into effect? Did they

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Speaker 3: Great question, January first.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that means for two months now you should

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Speaker 4: Janus or no?

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Speaker 4: Janis.

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Speaker 2: First of all, most people at this point have not

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Speaker 4: You're let's take your case.

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Speaker 2: You are living on pension or social security or combination.

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Speaker 6: Of both, security plus investment.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 6: The investment income would put me over so that.

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Speaker 4: Well, it'll bughts you over. But what I'm saying, how

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Speaker 6: Figure, almost thirty thirty.

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Speaker 2: Thousand dollars, okay, and then your investments generate for you.

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Speaker 2: I mean you're a multimillionaire and you get ten million

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Speaker 4: What do you get on an averaging investments every year?

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Speaker 6: Well, the share was up okay, good?

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Speaker 6: How much I think I had twenty two thousand dividends?

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Speaker 6: And then capital gains I don't know, around six thousand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a total income Janis, of about sixty

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Speaker 2: So security is going to drop your your taxable income substantially.

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Speaker 4: You're going to be happy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, No, I'm just I'm just considering generally when

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Speaker 4: Well, I know that.

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Speaker 2: But all I'm trying to say is that what I'm

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Speaker 4: Dan. I don't know if you're.

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Speaker 3: I think you are going to have a very happy

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Speaker 4: I want you to call me.

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Speaker 6: I'm not concerned in myself. I'm just trying to understand

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why that's why Dan Varroni's with us tonight.

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Speaker 2: Janis I got to run because they you, I gotta

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Speaker 2: take a quick break. But do me a favor when

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, all thanks, good night. Back on night Side.

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Speaker 2: Right after this one line six one seven two four

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Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got a lot of calls. Let's get

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Speaker 2: to Michael and Canton. Michael, you're next on nights Side

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Speaker 8: Go right ahead, Michael, Hello, Dan, good do good to

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Speaker 4: Two dance here, Michael, go right ahead. What's your the

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Speaker 8: Dan may recognize, Dan may recognize me. I was actually

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Speaker 8: I picked up on the tariff comment in the most

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Speaker 9: You think this will just blow over?

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Speaker 3: So, I think a great question. Uh, And and I

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Speaker 2: I also think that if you read the Supreme Court decision,

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Speaker 9: We've actually seen both sides of the tariff equation. Being

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Speaker 2: Good for you, well, Michael, I appreciate you call like

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Speaker 2: Have you called my show before? Is this your first time?

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Speaker 9: No, it was my first time calling in.

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Speaker 8: But I'm gonna a listener and studio.

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Speaker 3: We used to you.

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Speaker 2: We got to give you a round of applause. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much. Come on back.

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Speaker 4: I would appreciate hearing from you again. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Let me go next to Lola in San Diego. Lola,

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Speaker 2: I got pack lines. I'm going to have to push

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Hi Dan both Dan's Hi. So we got robots

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Speaker 2: Well, Lola, the point, the point, Lola, The point is

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Speaker 4: It's like a big ship. It's like a Queen Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Is that And we're still dealing with the problems of

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Speaker 4: It's going in the right direction of fake.

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Speaker 10: I feel those are fake numbers.

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Speaker 4: To take okay, all right, let me let me see it, Dan.

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Speaker 4: Let's see it, Dan, Maroney. You and I can argue, Lola,

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Speaker 4: but let's see Dan. Are those fake numbers?

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Speaker 3: No, they're not fake numbers. Those numbers are kept maintained

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, Lola, do me a favor.

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Speaker 10: Uh not yet, not still, this gets exploded.

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Speaker 2: up and all of a sudden, you're right. I want

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Speaker 2: you to call back and take a victory laugh. If

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Speaker 2: it's Dan from now, if six months from now the

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Speaker 2: economy has gone in a direction that you like, I

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Speaker 2: want you to call me back and.

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Speaker 4: Say, Dan, call you. I know you will.

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Speaker 11: You know me, Yeah, I know I know that.

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Speaker 4: All right, Lola, thanks much. I gotta keep rolling.

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Speaker 10: Come and see us and see what's really going on.

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Speaker 4: I'm there all the time. Thanks, Lola, I know. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Sgulated good night to John in New Hampshire. John want

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Speaker 2: to get you and maybe one more in if I

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Speaker 2: can go ahead, John.

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Speaker 11: Good evening, Dan, both dance think. First of all, I

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Speaker 11: agree with you with everything you've said thus far. I

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Speaker 11: think the economy is absolutely improving and is on a

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Speaker 11: good trajectory for a lot of people. However, I have

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Speaker 11: one concern, and I'd like Dan's thoughts on this. As

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Speaker 11: somebody that is single and in their mid fifties and

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Speaker 11: a couple of relatives that are in the same predicament,

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Speaker 11: I hear a lot of tax credits for people with children,

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Speaker 11: which I'm not against, but the single person in this

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Speaker 11: economy pays the same property taxes, insurance bills, all of

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Speaker 11: the like. And as somebody that's not too far from retirement, I'm,

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Speaker 11: in my opinion, about to be screwed royally as it

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Speaker 11: relates to social security. And although things are improving, I

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Speaker 11: think long term, for a single person in their fifties,

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Speaker 11: it's a small blip up in a large or you're

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Speaker 11: downward trend. Your thoughts please.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Dan, So I'm not are there are there

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Speaker 3: tax advantages that you feel you cannot get as a

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Speaker 3: single person? Is that what you're saying. I'm not clear

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Speaker 3: what you're what you're concerned.

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Speaker 11: Is well, tax advantages and expenses in general for the

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Speaker 11: single person are sure are outrageous. You know, you could

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Speaker 11: have one person in your house or ten people. That

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Speaker 11: there's certain expenses that are simply more for the single person.

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Speaker 11: And am I right?

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Speaker 2: But also also John, from the other side of it,

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Speaker 2: if you're married with three or four kids, kids are

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Speaker 2: expensive and the Congress and present prior presidents have made

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Speaker 2: decisions that having families are good for the country, good

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Speaker 2: for the future. I agree, they're going to They're going

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Speaker 2: to be the people who will be paying your Social

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Speaker 2: Security taxes and my Social Security taxes. It's it's all

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Speaker 2: about a choice, you know. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let's do this. I'm gonna ask Dan Varoni since he

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Speaker 2: started with me late. Let me hold you over, Dan

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Speaker 2: into the next hour because I'm running out of time

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Speaker 2: here fast for our eleven o'clock news. Give me about

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Speaker 2: maybe one segment in the next hour, and John in

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire, stay right there. I want to have your

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Speaker 2: concerns addressed more fully.

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 11: Sure? Thanks?

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Speaker 2: Everybody, stay right there, We'll listen to the news and

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Speaker 2: we'll be right back Dan, I will promise I'll let

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Speaker 2: you go no later than eleven fifteen.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back on Nightside. Finish up this hour.

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Speaker 1: Right after this, it's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ,

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Speaker 1: Boston's new radio.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna spend there one more segment with Dan Varoni.

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Speaker 2: He's the founder of Potomac Corp. He's an economic strategist,

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Speaker 2: and we're talking about where the US economy is going,

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Speaker 2: particularly in the next year eight to ten months, because

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Speaker 2: between now and the election, the midterms in November, the

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Speaker 2: economy has to kick back if the Republicans have any

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Speaker 2: hope whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: I've held John from New Hampshire over. John. You're a

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Speaker 4: single guy. You you do.

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Speaker 2: Not have some things like you know child uh, you

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Speaker 2: know child deductions and all of that. How else do

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Speaker 2: you feel you're being unfairly treated? And we'll get we'll

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Speaker 2: get Dan Voroni to address whatever your your concern is.

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Speaker 2: Do we have John, rob Have we lost him? Okay,

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Speaker 2: we lost him. We're gonna move on. Okay, double check

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Speaker 2: with them. We're gonna go to Robert in Boston. I

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Speaker 2: told him he could hang around, but he's not there. Robert,

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Speaker 2: you are next on.

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Speaker 4: Nightsager right ahead, Yes, can you hand me? I can

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Speaker 4: hear you? Just fine. I have no idea what happened

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Speaker 4: to John?

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Speaker 5: Okay, God bless him?

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I have a question. This is a statement about Trump.

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Speaker 5: I hope it comes out right now. You being an

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Speaker 5: educated uh.

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Speaker 12: Uh commentative on prolific subcent politics and business. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 12: Now my question you is not haven't you called Trump

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Speaker 12: out on his policies and his decisions, to have a

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Speaker 12: debate with him, to try to talk confess to him,

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Speaker 12: maybe you could change you Well?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of first of all, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think that would be what's called an exercise in

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Speaker 2: futility number one and number two. As you probably know

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Speaker 2: if you listen to my show. I agree with some

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Speaker 2: things that he's done. I disagree with others. I think

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Speaker 2: that his behavior and his attitude is what bothers me most.

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Speaker 4: I wish he was more like Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 2: Reagan would tell a joke and smile and disarm people,

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Speaker 2: where where Trump will will decide to insult someone. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think that works for for for anybody.

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Speaker 5: Are you a Democrat of Republic?

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Speaker 2: I am an absolute middle of the road independent I'm

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Speaker 2: a conservative. Well, no, I'm a conservative. I'm gonna explain

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Speaker 2: to you. I'm a conservative who wants people to call

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Speaker 2: this program whatever their point of view. And there are

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Speaker 2: some issues that you and I might agree on. Some

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Speaker 2: issues we might disagree on, but I want to be

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Speaker 2: able to have a decent conversation with you, and I

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Speaker 2: want you to a decent conversation with me. I'm actually

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Speaker 2: striving to do what is to repair what is wrong

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Speaker 2: with this country. Just because you and I might disagree politically.

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Speaker 2: You might root for the Yankees and I root for

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Speaker 2: the Red Sox. That doesn't make you a bad person.

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Speaker 2: It just makes we we're in disagreement and who we're

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Speaker 2: rooting for. Whether you're a Democrat or Republican, I could

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Speaker 2: care less. If you're a decent person, I want you

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Speaker 2: to be my friend. That's my philosophy.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I share think you should debate him so you could

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Speaker 5: straighten him out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if he accepts, we'll have that debate.

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Speaker 4: Do you have a question for my guest?

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Speaker 5: Well, what is it about the business economy?

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Speaker 4: He's yeah, it's about the economy. You got it, Robert.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you call. If you called before. I do

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Speaker 2: not recognize your voice. Is this your first time calling?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm calling you. This is probably the.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you keep calling. We'll have a lot of

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Speaker 2: conversation next time. I'm going to get back to John. Now. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thanks Robert, thank you my friend John. I I don't

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Speaker 2: know where you were before, but I got you now.

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Speaker 2: I think, go right ahead.

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Speaker 11: All right. So, so Dan, my point was, where were

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Speaker 11: you before?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I was looking for you, and had

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Speaker 2: you stepped away from the phone.

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Speaker 11: I had the phone on mute and I forgot to

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Speaker 11: push the button.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that that that could be a problem.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure that that that I

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Speaker 2: had I hadn't lost my hearing.

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Speaker 4: Go right ahead, you're back with Dan Veroni.

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Speaker 11: My point is in my particular case, and I know

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Speaker 11: other people are in the same case. I'm not a senior,

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Speaker 11: so that's not going to help me. I don't have kids.

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Speaker 11: That's not going to help me. I don't I don't

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Speaker 11: I work a salary job. So over time, no help

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Speaker 11: there tips no help there. I got hammered a few

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Speaker 11: years back when they took the salt tax deductions away. Ye,

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Speaker 11: And your point, Dan, you're right in my life the

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Speaker 11: way it's worked out, choice and other wise I don't

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Speaker 11: have kids. But if you listen to what they tell you,

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Speaker 11: I'm right in line to retire in Guan Sosa security

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Speaker 11: when it's going to get cut to shreds.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, they've been threatening that SO security

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Speaker 2: will be cut to shreds for years. It's never going

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Speaker 2: to be cut to shreds, okay. I mean, I'm telling

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Speaker 2: you right now that the older citizens would would be outraged.

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Speaker 2: It's the third rail of politics. It will never happen.

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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. They have and Dan will

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Speaker 2: agree with me, I think on this. They have they

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Speaker 2: have raised the retirement age to you know, by six months,

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Speaker 2: six months, six months.

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Speaker 4: How old are you.

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Speaker 11: Now, John, I'm fifty five now, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're fifty five. You still have at least another

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Speaker 2: ten good earning years, maybe more. You can't take full

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Speaker 2: SO security until you're seventy. So you're fifteen years away

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Speaker 2: from SO security that.

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Speaker 11: That's going to be. In my case, I've already had

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Speaker 11: one massive heart attack. I'll be doing it at sixty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's fine, Okay, so you're ten years away.

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Speaker 2: I would say, your greater concern is keeping your health

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Speaker 2: and keeping yourself in shape so you can enjoy the

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Speaker 2: benefits of retirement.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that's our cast that man being totally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally honest, and make sure you get to your

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Speaker 2: doctors and make sure you stay in shape, and if

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Speaker 2: you're overweight, try awaken one eighty.

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Speaker 11: No, I don't have to worry about that.

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Speaker 4: Good, Okay, Well, that's great, that's great.

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Speaker 2: Well again, the tax code, it's it's voluminous.

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Speaker 4: There's too much to the tax code. I wish we

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Speaker 4: had a flat tax.

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Speaker 2: That's just my own philosophical point of view, but unfortunately

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Speaker 2: we don't. And single people are discriminated against in this

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Speaker 2: country on taxes and those are.

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Speaker 11: Quest go ahead, no no, I said no question about you,

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Speaker 11: no question.

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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, I thought you said question okay.

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Speaker 2: So but again that that's simply a fact of life,

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Speaker 2: and you got to look at it, and you got

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Speaker 2: to say, okay, I don't have some of the tax

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Speaker 2: benefits that are in the code, in the Internal Revenue

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Speaker 2: Code for married couples, but you also don't have the

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Speaker 2: expenses of feeding kids and all of that. So there's

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Speaker 2: a yan and a yang here and then we all

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Speaker 2: make out to your right man.

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Speaker 11: But here's where I disagree with you. It doesn't cost

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Speaker 11: me any less for a car. It doesn't cost me

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Speaker 11: any less in property taxes. It doesn't cost me any

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Speaker 11: lesson an electric bill.

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Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you what it will cost you lesson.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you what it will cost you,

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Speaker 4: and I disagree with that. Tell you why.

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Speaker 2: First of all, if you have four kids, you've got

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Speaker 2: to have a bigger house, which is going to be

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Speaker 2: more expensive. Number two, if you have kids, they're going

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Speaker 2: to be driving the car and you're going to be

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Speaker 2: paying for the gas. And in terms of electricity, I

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Speaker 2: walk around my house my kids are now grown up,

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Speaker 2: and when they come over with the grandkids, I'm shutting

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Speaker 2: off lights all night and I'm asking them, you know,

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Speaker 2: do you pay electric bills at home? Why do you

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Speaker 2: have all these lights on?

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Speaker 4: I love it. I'm telling you. I'm trying to make

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Speaker 4: you feel better. John.

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Speaker 2: I got to get one more in here. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: thanks for recall. All right, we'll talk again. Okay, thanks

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Speaker 2: keep calling, uh Dan Varoni. Last call. Bernie is in

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire. Bernie one of my favorite callers. You're all

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Speaker 2: with John with Dan Varoni the right ahead, Bernie.

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Speaker 3: Hey Dan, how are we doing tonight?

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Speaker 4: We'll scrambling tonight. Pal Let's gay.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think I told you I had

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Speaker 7: sixty five trips around the sun loss October, So I've

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Speaker 7: got that in my favor.

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Speaker 4: Good for you.

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Speaker 7: And they also work a lot of overtime. Actually my

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Speaker 7: account says that was the most that they filed this

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Speaker 7: year for overtime.

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Speaker 11: So I got that.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 7: And my tax refund is very good this year. I'll

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Speaker 7: put it that way.

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Speaker 2: Well, give me an idea and give Dan Varoni said,

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Speaker 2: at Dan Varoni, normally.

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Speaker 4: What you doing?

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Speaker 2: What would have you got? Do you think as a

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Speaker 2: what's how much of a differential? Do you think your

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Speaker 2: tax return is better this year? Just give us a

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Speaker 2: rough number based upon.

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Speaker 7: It was six thousands dollars more this year.

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Speaker 4: That's not bad.

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Speaker 3: That's not bad, not a bad, not a bad handshake

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And I suspect you will be voting Republican. I

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Speaker 2: know you well enough in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know what like yourself? Then I'm conservative. I'm conservative.

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Speaker 7: Nobody's given me anything I've worked very hot everything I have,

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Speaker 7: My wife has too, and and like you said, we

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Speaker 7: have I have nineteen year old twins and we help them,

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Speaker 7: and you know, and and the military, yes, you know,

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Speaker 7: and we help them as much as we can because

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Speaker 7: they don't get paid a lot of money, as you

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Speaker 7: well know. And we're in a position where we can

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Speaker 7: help themselves. We just were proud of them, and we

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Speaker 7: and you know what, I see you. This question came

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Speaker 7: up the other night. Do you feel your better off?

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Speaker 7: I think Reagan said it before. You're better off now

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Speaker 7: than you under Biden and my I have of a

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Speaker 7: thousand years, so I don't care who was in the

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Speaker 7: White House. I just think economically, he's doing good things

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Speaker 7: for this time.

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Speaker 4: All right, let me get Dan Varoni to make a

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Speaker 4: quick comment.

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Speaker 2: Because you're a caller who has has benefited you're also

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Speaker 2: a caller who has contributed to UH, to society for

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Speaker 2: in many ways, both as a worker and as a parent.

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Speaker 4: Dan Varoni.

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Speaker 2: Is, is Bernie potentially a bell Weather voter based upon

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Speaker 2: what you foresee coming down the road?

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Speaker 3: Economically, I think Bernie is absolutely a bell Weather voter,

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Speaker 3: and there will be a lot of Bernie around the country.

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Speaker 3: The initial tax refunds have gone out. The second wave

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Speaker 3: will be coming soon and we'll be hearing a lot

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Speaker 3: of three, four, six, eight, ten thousand dollars tax refunds.

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Speaker 2: All right, Bernie is always thank you, my friend. We

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Speaker 2: will talk soon, okay, one of my favorite.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Dan, also thank you.

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Speaker 3: All right, you're welcome. Takeod care, Dave Ronie.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about your book, and let's plug the book.

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Speaker 2: How can people get to the get the book? Give

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Speaker 2: us the title one more time, and I assume it's

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Speaker 2: available on Amazon and elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. The title of the book is called Rethinking Economic Growth,

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Speaker 3: and everyone can find it on Amazon. I encourage your

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Speaker 3: listeners who are small businesses or listeners who know people

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Speaker 3: who own small businesses to get this book. There are

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Speaker 3: thirty five case studies twelve different industries, and it talks

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Speaker 3: about the power of small business in helping the country

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Speaker 3: achieve consistence three percent economic growth, and there's a roadmap

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Speaker 3: for small businesses. They will get a lot of value

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Speaker 3: from reading this book.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time, Dan. I know we had a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a bumpy start here. Check your phone

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Speaker 2: because Rob is insisting that it was getting dumped directly.

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Speaker 2: And I've had that happen on my phone as well,

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Speaker 2: where the phone doesn't even ring and it goes right to voicemail.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear the voicemails later on tonight. But I think

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Speaker 2: we pulled together, and I think we got a good hour,

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Speaker 2: and I think people have a better understanding of the

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Speaker 2: economy and what it's going to mean. And I hope

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Speaker 2: everybody benefits from it.

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Speaker 4: That's my hope.

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Speaker 3: I say, I hope that absolutely everybody benefits from it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks again, Dan.

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Speaker 2: We'll maybe check back with you in the two or

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Speaker 2: three months and we'll take the temperature of the economy

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Speaker 2: sometime in May or June.

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Speaker 4: Fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Oh it sounds good, look forward to it.

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Speaker 4: All right, take you care now, Barney. Absolutely the book

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Speaker 4: Rethinking Economic Growth. Thank you, Dan, appreciate it all right.

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Speaker 2: We only have about forty five minutes left here, forty

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Speaker 2: minutes left in the evening.

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Speaker 4: And here's what I'm going to do. I haven't done

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Speaker 4: this in a while.

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Speaker 2: We talked earlier tonight about borders, and we talked about

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Speaker 2: ice detainers with Boston City Councilor Ed Flynn. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to give you an opportunity if you want to make

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Speaker 2: a comment on borders, the value of national borders, or

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Speaker 2: if you want to make the argument that we don't

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Speaker 2: need borders, that's okay as well. Also, if you want

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Speaker 2: to talk about the economy, if you've I'd love to

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Speaker 2: know how you're doing. Do you feel that the economy

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Speaker 2: is going to get better for you? That's really the

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Speaker 2: way in which most people will judge and determine how

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Speaker 2: they're going to vote this fall, in my opinion, at

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Speaker 2: least those in the middle who are my listeners for

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Speaker 2: the most part. So we can do that, and we'll

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Speaker 2: also incorporate open lines, so this will be an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: We'll only do it for about forty minutes. We only

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Speaker 2: have a thirty nine left right now. Anyway, open lines,

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Speaker 2: I'd love a little emphasis reaction to the Ed Flynn

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Speaker 2: interview at nine, and reaction and reaction to Dan Voroni's

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Speaker 2: conversation with us during the last hour, the founder of

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Speaker 2: Potomac Core. He's an economic strategist, very clear on what

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Speaker 2: he believes. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten, thirty

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Speaker 2: six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. I'll emphasize

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Speaker 2: to you again the program is Nightside with Dan Ray.

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Speaker 2: My name is Dan Ray. But you are at Night Side. Uh,

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Speaker 2: do not leave me alone here. Feel free. This is

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Speaker 2: an opportunity. Many of you say, won't you do this topic?

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Speaker 2: Won't you do this topic? You have an opportunity. Ask

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Speaker 2: me anything you want. I'll give you an answer. Let's

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Speaker 2: have some fun between now and midnight tomorrow Tgif it's Friday,

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Speaker 2: the weekend actually looks nice here in New England weatherwise,

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Speaker 2: and it will be March on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: We have a lot going for us. Let's go and

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Speaker 4: be upbeat for the final forty minutes of the program.

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Speaker 4: Coming back on Night Side