WEBVTT - Sports Talk with Austin Elmore -- 10/3/25 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:10.120 The following takes place between six pm and seven pm. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.480 You want answers. I think I'm entitled. You what answer 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.280 the truth? You can't handle the truth? 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:16.840 Truth? 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:17.599 Truth. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.680 Hi, Hello, and welcome in Sports Talk on a Friday night, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.040 seven hundred wl W. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.840 My name is Austin Elmore. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.320 Happy, honored to be with you, filling in for one 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.559 Lance McAllister on a beautiful Friday night in the Tri 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:45.680 state area. Gonna be a perfect night for high school football. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.559 Big one at the pit tonight between Mohler and Elder, 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.200 and we'll keep you updated with anything we can find 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.680 out about high school sports. We're gonna talk Reds, We're 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:01.200 gonna talk Bengals. Shocker, I know. On Sports Talk an 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.840 hour from right now. Joe Daneman from Fox nineteen. He 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.640 was in Los Angeles covering the Reds trip to the 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.040 wild Card round to take on the Dodgers. We'll get 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.760 his perspective from somebody who was there and someone who 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.320 was in the clubhouse after their season came to an 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:21.000 end and a sense of accomplishment is what he got. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:22.760 I want to talk to him about that. We'll do 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.680 that at seven o'clock. We'll also talk to Joe about 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.160 the Bengals, who get set to host the three to 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:32.280 one Detroit Lions at pay Corps Stadium on Sunday afternoon, 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.520 a four to twenty five pm kickoff. You'll hear it 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.880 right here on the Home of the Best Bengals coverage. 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.440 The Bearcats are in action tomorrow nip at noon against 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:46.840 number fourteen ranth iow number fourteenth ranked Iowa State. The 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.000 Bearcats actually favorites in this game due to a bunch 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.160 of injuries for Iowa State. And earlier this week on 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.560 my other show, since He three point sixty that I 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.320 co host with Tony Pike, Tony talked to UC quarterback 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:03.000 Brendan So and the interview was fantastic. It was really 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:04.920 really good. So I'm going to bring back a good 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.400 chunk of that to play for you in the second 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.000 hour as well. And then I want to do what 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.040 Lance normally does on Friday nights, which is get to 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:17.919 an off the beaten path topic, because one week from 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.480 right now, I will be in Green Bay, Wisconsin. I'm 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.440 going up to lambeau Field to watch the Bengals play 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.800 the Packers. Lambeau Field is towards the top, if not 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.960 the very top of my sports bucket list, and so 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.799 I want to get into that topic with you sports 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.280 bucket list? What is on your list? What have you 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.000 crossed off, what are you about to cross off? What 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.560 have you added recently? Because I'm fired up to go 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.800 to lambeau Field, and if you've been to lambeau Field, 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.360 I would love any recommendations you might have for my 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.520 trip coming up next week. That is in our number three, 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.480 but in hour number one we start with the Reds. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.360 I think it's fair to say that the twenty twenty 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:05.760 five Red season was a failure. I think it's fair 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.680 to say that. I think it's also fair to say 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.000 that it was a success. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:13.200 Now. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.720 I have a hard time saying that because I don't 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.919 believe it was a success, but I can see the 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:23.160 path one would take to get to that conclusion. I 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.040 also think it's fair to say, more than anything, that 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.720 it was a failure, a failure because a couple of 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.720 years ago, when this young corps of players was brought 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.800 to the big leagues, they got a bunch of experience, 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.720 they were in a tight playoff race. They were in 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.240 a race for the most part in twenty twenty four 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.680 before things fell apart in the second half. They have 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.680 more than enough big league experience. And then they went 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.160 out and signed a manager and Terry Francona, who has 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.320 plenty of pelts on the wall and plenty of experience, 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.640 and a guy who came out of retirement and is 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.400 being paid a lot of money to do so to 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.320 get this team to the next level. And instead they 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:09.760 had a terrible offensive season. They won just eighty three games, 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:14.800 and quite frankly, I thought they were embarrassed against the Dodgers, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.360 because that could have been a series that you, at 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:22.760 the bare minimum, pushed the Dodgers to three games, But 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.720 because Hunter Green didn't show up and apparently was tipping 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:30.800 his pitches, and because of some questionable decisions by that manager, 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:36.039 the season, to me, has a bad taste in my mouth. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:40.160 It left a bad taste in my mouth because I 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:46.279 firmly believe that the standard should be to compete for championships, 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.520 and this team really wasn't close, and you could tell 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.880 by the way that Los Angeles performed against them. And 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.880 I understand that those two teams are not even remotely 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:02.200 close to one another when it comes to talent and 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:08.839 payroll and everything in between. I understand, but I would 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.680 like to see a Reds team that's more competitive than 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.800 the one we saw against the Dodgers. And there is 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:20.239 no excuse for the awful season that Matt McClean had, 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.039 No excuse for the regression there, there's no excuse for 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:28.760 another awful defensive season from Elie de la Cruz. To me, 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.240 there's no excuse for the power outage that De la 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:35.160 Cruz experienced, only to try to get it back and 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.599 bring back that leg kick to his swing at the 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.720 very end of the year. There's no excuse for continuing 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:46.200 to ask guys to play injured. There's no excuse for 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.920 significant games that were played by Connor Joe and Garrett 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.880 Hampson and Christian Incarnassi owned strand there's no excuse for 0:05:54.960 --> 0:06:00.720 him taking another step back in his development. This season 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.839 could have and should have went a lot better for 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:08.680 the Reds than it did. And I'm bothered by the 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.400 idea that I heard callers on this show earlier this 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:17.520 week that seem to be happy with the idea that, hey, 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:23.200 we made the playoffs. That's cool. It's a successful season 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.240 in the eyes of many, because hey, we made the playoffs. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:32.160 Shouldn't the bar be higher than that? Shouldn't the standard 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.840 be bigger than that, Shouldn't it be more than just, Hey, 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:44.000 we made the playoffs. It's been thirty one years, almost 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.680 thirty one years since they've advanced in the postseason. That's 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.839 the longest drought in North American professional sports for a 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:56.280 team not to advance in the postseason. The Chicago Cubs 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:00.000 have won the World Series in the last ten years. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.960 Cleveland Browns have won a playoff game in the last 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:11.880 five years. The Reds haven't advanced in the postseason. And 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.520 we're often told about the rich history of this franchise 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.320 and the great players, and the great moments and the 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:23.680 great teams, and yet the Reds don't live up to that. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.520 And while I am happy that they made the postseason, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.680 I'm also not naive to think that they earned their 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:38.440 way in Eighty three wins in most years is not 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.120 going to get you in Over their last sixty five games, 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:46.679 Cincinnati was thirty three and thirty two. In that same stretch, 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.720 the Mets were playing to a ninety six lost pace, 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.360 and the Reds were still nearly beaten out by the 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:57.320 Arizona Diamondbacks who sold at the trade deadline, and the 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:02.280 San Francisco Giants who sold at the trade deadline, and 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.480 when it came down to it, the Reds couldn't beat 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.000 the Pittsburgh Pirates in a series, and if not for 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:12.760 an Oel v Marte spectacular catch, likely or possibly could 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.320 have been swept by Pittsburgh with the season on the line. 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.280 So forgive me for not feeling like this season is 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.080 a success or like I'm happy with the fact that 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.240 they just made the playoffs. Now let's go from there. No, 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.680 this is year three of this young core, and they 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.800 have two playoff games in which they gave up eighteen 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:40.440 runs in sixteen innings. And oh, by the way, Andrew Abbott, Nicklodolo, 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:45.400 Chase Burns an Emilio Pagan combined to throw twenty seven 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:51.680 pitches in those eighteen innings or sixteen innings. Everybody else 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.160 gave up eighteen runs, including the guy who's supposed to 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:59.320 be your ace in Hunter Green. The idea that you 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.679 should just be happy that they got there, I don't. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.360 That doesn't sit right with me, And I don't think 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.079 that's a ship that should sit right with you either. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.720 And I think now this off season is the time 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.160 to really turn up the heat because you know what 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.920 I've already heard this offseason. I heard it several times today, 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.679 is Oh, that's good enough for the Reds. That's good 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.800 enough for them, That's just good enough. Just make the 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.720 playoffs and get a bunch of butts in the seats, 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.440 and uh, we'll be good from now on. You know, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:34.560 that's good enough for the Castellini family. Just enough, just 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.319 be competitive. If you're the Reds, is that what you 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:42.280 want people saying about you? That you're good with a 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.920 playoff appearance in an early exit, that you're happy with 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.920 eighty three wins. Shouldn't the Reds want to change that 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.439 narrative too? I'm sure the players do, I'm sure the 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.800 manager does. Shouldn't the rest of the organization want to 0:09:55.800 --> 0:10:01.800 feel that way too? Reaction five one three, seven, nine, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.840 seven thousand. Phone lines are open. Is this Red season 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.880 really a success? We'll take a break. This is sports 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.480 Talk on seven hundred WLW. Sports Talk seven hundred wl W, 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.720 Austin Elmore with you talking Red's here in the first 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.040 half hour and maybe the whole hour, we'll see five one, three, seven, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.040 four nine, seven thousand is the phone number. Let's go 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.960 to Miamisburg and talk to Barry. Hello, Barry, what's up? 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:30.520 Hey? 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:31.240 How's it gone? 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:31.440 Star? 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.040 I'm good man? What's on your mind? 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:40.479 I'm quietly optimistic, and I'll explain why. Okay, how many 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.520 miserable one run games did we lose this year? 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.000 Quite a bit, very a lot. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.679 All right, Let's say. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.640 We have marginal improvement in a couple of different areas, 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:01.400 not big improvement, marginal improvement, which is realistic. 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.079 Okay, Sure we turn ten. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.920 Of those miserable one to one losses one run ball 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:16.080 games into a one run win. Maybe it's two to one. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.200 I don't know, maybe it's one nothing in our favor. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:24.600 It doesn't matter. If you move ten of those miserable 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:32.280 losses into the win column, we become ninety win team 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:37.760 and respectable in other ways. Also, you know, it's doable 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.800 with what we have. The baseball gods just have. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:42.880 To smile on us. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.160 Well, how is it doable with what they have? 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:45.440 Like? 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.120 Where do you feel like that improvement is going to 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.920 come from? 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.880 I'm hoping we don't have extended bad luck with batting. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:02.120 And let's say that something that's just beyond your control. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.120 You know, as a batter, you're not having a good 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:11.720 day hopefully we don't have as long extended periods of that, 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.480 and hopefully, you know, a couple other things fallow our 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:22.200 way that our fifty to fifty and didn't fall our way. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:27.680 So you're basically your strategy is hope they get luckier. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:35.840 Marginal improvement, so that you know, instead of walking off 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.160 the field with our heads in the dust, we win 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.000 a few of those borderline games. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.760 Yeah, no, I hear you, Barry, and I think that's 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.440 I certainly think it's within the realm of possibility, and 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.959 thank you for the phone call. I mean, I think 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.640 it's in within the realm of possibility. I went into 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.400 this year thinking Matt McClain and him coming back to 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.800 the lineup would have a huge impact and that would 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.280 marginally improve them in every category. He had the worst 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:05.120 offensive season, one of the worst in Red's history. Keep 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.000 Bryan Hayes was good for a couple of weeks, really 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:13.120 good defender, nothing offensively. Where is it going to improve 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.360 in the margin? That's what I want to know. What 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.640 about Jason and Williamstown what's up Jason? 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:19.080 Hey? 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:19.880 How are you doing? 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:20.400 Good man? 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.480 What's on a so real quick to the previous call 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.240 it real fast that's fine and dandy, but the problem 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:28.840 is they still have to win a playoff game, and 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.800 the last time I checked, we lost without what like 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.440 five and like whatever, So even that one run still 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:38.040 doesn't mean anything. Anyways, back to what I was gonna say, 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:42.080 I'm forty now. I was born eighty five. I kind 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:46.600 of remember the Nasty Boys nineteen ninety remember, you know, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.520 the ninety five season, kind oft before the players strike 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.720 all that stuff went down. That team was good. But 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.679 ever since then, really since I was about ten years old, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.880 I've not been excited about any Red team, even the 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.920 Dusty Baker twelve twenty thirteen, you know that time for 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.480 ins in twenty ten twenty. I just didn't see it 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.920 back then. I mean, yeah, they were great players. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.120 We had with Bato and all. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.240 Them back then, but the problem was I just didn't 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.319 see them being a World Series team. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:16.160 Now. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:21.200 The thing is I Castelini family super nice. I'm torn 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.520 saying this because I had some issues medically and they 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.840 went above and beyond for my family. The Castelini family did. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.880 They were super nice people, but when it comes to baseball, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.080 they do need to sell the team that I'm sorry. 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.240 I'm done with every year. I feel like we are 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:41.920 having this conversation on this radio station every single year. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.920 You can say the same thing about the Bengals too, 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.240 But I mean, it's just so bad, it's so old. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.400 It's so like I'm gonna be dead and we're still 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.920 gonna be probably about like a hundred the year there's 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.720 gonna be some DJ or you know, some radio hosts 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:57.600 fifty years from now. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.440 Well what about next season, guys? Yeah, Jason, thank you, 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.720 thank you for the phone call. I appreciate it it 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.680 and I certainly empathize with that. I understand a lot 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.480 of people feel that way. I believe the Castelin needs 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.360 to be good people. I believe that they want to win. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.080 I really do. And I just don't know if the 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.800 plan right now is viable and the people in charge 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:24.240 of executing the plan right now are capable. But I 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.000 do think there's some things to build on now. It 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.360 falls into the organization's hands to actually build on that. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.480 Let's talk about that, because if they're not going to 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.600 play the same game as the Dodgers financially, there are 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.080 other aspects of the organization that they have to get 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.960 buttoned up. Let's talk about that. Will continue your phone 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:46.080 calls next Sports Talk seven hundred WLW moment from the 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.160 NL Wild Cards series that is seared. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:49.880 Into my memory. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.320 It was right after Hunter Green got shelled and gave 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:59.040 up five earned runs to the Dodgers, and Terry Francona 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.240 goes out to the mound and calls on the bullpen, 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.600 calls in Connor Phillips out of the bullpen to pitch, 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.160 and as they're going to a break, they're showing on 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:12.120 television a Dodger's coach standing in front of the dugout 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.720 with Taoscar Hernandez, who was due up, and he's on 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.840 an iPad and he's showing him something on the iPad, 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:23.160 and Hernandez looks up from the iPad, looks at the coach, 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.320 smiles at him, sticks his tongue out, and proceeds to 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.880 walk towards home plate. He launched one to write center 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.520 for a home run right after that. Come to find 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:39.040 out a day later, Hunter Green and others were tipping 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:44.360 their pitches. And I couldn't help but wonder, how is 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:51.760 this possible? How is it possible that Hunter Green in 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:56.680 the playoffs is tipping his pitches? How are the other 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:02.160 players tipping their pitches, And it made me wonder, why 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:07.000 isn't there self scouting, Why isn't there something within the 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:11.120 Reds organization to prevent this, especially going into the playoffs. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.639 And also it made me wonder, why don't the Reds 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.960 ever seem to take advantage of pitchers tipping their pitches. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.919 You know, Mike Napoli is on the Red staff and 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.679 one of the big reasons he's here is because of 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.080 his ability to pick up on those tells. Well, rarely 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:31.760 has the Reds offensive explosion happened to where we find 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.040 out a team was tipping their pitches. And maybe we're 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.040 not going to find out about every single time that 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:40.760 it's happening. But it made me think, if you're the 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:45.720 Reds and if you choose not to spend as much 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.920 money as you could to be competitive, and you choose 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.800 to get guys off the bargain bend and the scrap heap, 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.760 like Austin Hayes for example, if that's the way you 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.959 choose to do business, and it is my belief that 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:00.840 that is the way the Reds choose to do business. 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.199 They could spend more, they could be more aggressive, but 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.760 they choose not to. I'm not saying they can spend 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:09.720 at the level of the Dodgers or the Mets and 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.000 teams like, that's not what I'm saying, but I'm saying 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.720 they could do more, but they choose not to. If 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:18.080 you're going to live a life like that, if that's 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.879 the way you're going to approach your team, wouldn't you 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.760 think that you got to have the other stuff buttoned 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:26.600 up your self? 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.720 Scouting has to be nails. 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.920 Your minor league system, your minor league development, your hitting philosophy, 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:39.959 your video system, your iPads, your data, your tracking, everything 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:47.000 else needs to be buttoned up. I would think, isn't 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:51.400 that part of it? Wouldn't you think so? I would 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:56.560 think so. And that's the thing, like, if you're going 0:18:56.640 --> 0:19:02.919 to sorry, someone just came into my studio trying to vacuum. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:07.600 I don't need it vacuumed. I just lost my trade 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.960 of thought there. But if you're not going to spend 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.280 as much money as everyone else, you've got to have 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:17.320 all the other little things buttoned up. Let's look at 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.439 the Milwaukee Brewers for example. You know, the Brewers have 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:25.480 a lower payroll than the Reds. They won ninety seven games, 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.040 set a franchise record won the division over the Reds 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:34.800 by fourteen games. They scored ninety more Reds than ninety 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:39.520 more runs than Cincinnati. They gave up eighty or fifty 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:44.760 fewer runs than the Reds. Milwaukee did Milwaukee. How many 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.760 guys can you actually name on Milwaukee? Most people can't 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:54.040 name that many. But their operation is so buttoned up 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.280 in the way that they acquire players, in the way 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.560 that they developed players, in their advanced scouting, and their 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.320 self outing all of it. Hell, you want another stat. 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.520 You know how bad the Reds offense was this year? Well, 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:11.120 the Reds offense had a seven point two percent barrel percentage. 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.600 That's how many times you're hitting the ball on the barrel. 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:18.280 Seven point two percent. That was twenty eighth in Major 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.720 League Baseball. You know who was twenty ninth the Milwaukee 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:26.879 Brewers at six point six percent, and yet they still 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.760 scored ninety more runs than the Reds and won fourteen 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:35.399 more games. That tells me that all the other parts 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.560 of their operation are buttoned up. So if you choose 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.439 to play ball that way, which is not spending to 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.359 the maximum, not getting the biggest talent, not getting the 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:49.120 biggest free agent, not doing all those other things. You've 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.320 got to be able to button up the rest of 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:57.639 your organization so that you can be more competitive. The 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.320 Reds also stopped running the basis stealing bases this year. 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.560 That was their identity last year and they basically stopped 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.760 doing it this year. Is that a Terry francona thing? 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:10.959 And if so, why are you going away from one 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:16.760 of your strengths. That didn't make sense to me? And 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.560 I hope that going into this offseason the Reds say, Okay, 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.239 this is how we're choosing to do our business. This 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:24.600 is how we're trying to build. This is our plan. 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.320 Where can we clean it up a little bit so 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:29.520 that we have an advantage so that we can be 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:33.000 more like Milwaukee. The red should be doing everything in 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:38.600 their power to be like the Milwaukee Brewers. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:42.240 seven thousand. Let's go out to people's and talk to Tony. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:43.359 What's up, Tony? 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:44.880 Hey? 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:45.800 I was going good? 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.280 So I feel like there were successes. 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:51.520 There were failures obviously. 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:53.600 Yeah. 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.920 I think our biggest thing is going to be consistent. 0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:00.480 Staying consistent. Every player I feel like on the team 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.840 at some point that the season showed, you know, their 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:05.920 ability to be a star. 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:07.760 Everybody, everybody had a highlight. 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.160 And it's gonna be Perry's job this off season two 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.520 work on that and get the get our players to 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.880 be more consistent and be able to go out there 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:20.000 on a nightly basis like the first caller. You know, 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:24.040 we lost so many games by one point. You know, 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.760 look look at what we only had, what was it one, 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.800 one or two series that we actually got slept. You know, 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:33.160 like how early into the season did every other team 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:37.560 had been slept. So obviously we were doing some things right. 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:42.119 You know, we did some stuff wrong. But you know 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:45.959 it's it's gonna be his job to capitalize on go 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.240 to go to the office this off season and say 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:51.040 it's what I need. You know, hopefully the office is 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:55.520 able to uh find him some missing pieces and and 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:57.160 and get him some things that he needs. 0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:58.560 I have faith in Terry. 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.760 I think he's got to see under his belt with 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:04.640 the organization. Now he's done these players for a year, 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.960 so you know, hopefully next year we can come back 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.880 and he can't work with these players and get them to. 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.239 Yeah you're good, Tony, and thank you for the phone call. 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:17.520 And I hope that's the case. 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.280 I hope that he can go to the front office 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.199 and say, Okay, this is what we need, this is 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.679 my vision. There were times this year I thought I 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:27.440 was gonna love Terry Francona, and there were times where 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:29.919 I felt like he had no feel for the game whatsoever. 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:34.640 You know, with Francona specifically, he is what has made 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.800 him great over the years is balancing the data and 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:43.720 the analytics and his gut. He's also never managed a 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:47.240 team with less talent than this team. In my opinion, 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.399 there was a lot of Hall of famers, should be 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.639 Hall of Famers, might someday be Hall of Famers on 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.720 his teams in Boston and in Cleveland, just to name 0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:01.600 a few, Kurt Shilling, Pedro Martinez, David or t Manny Ramirez, 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:10.040 Jason Veritek, Corey Klueber, Shane Bieber, Trevor Bauer, Jose Ramirez, Kipness, 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:14.159 Jason Kidness was fantastic for a little while. Like there's 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.320 been a lot more talent on those other teams, and 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.960 so when he makes mistakes or when he goes off 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.840 the gut or maybe it doesn't quite exactly work, it 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:27.000 gets magnified. I was not blown away by Terry Francona 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.480 this year, and I hope that they have a little 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.440 bit more of an understanding of the players that they 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:34.800 have or the players that they want to have, and 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.760 how they can improve in the offseason. 0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:39.800 Let's go to Ryan, Ryan, what's up. 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.320 Well, he made my point a few of my points 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:46.160 that I was going to make. 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:48.560 We got to spend more money. 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.960 We need a backup for everybody we got that is 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.320 going to replace everybody when someone goes down. We've got 0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.520 to have somebody that can step up until those shoes. 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.920 I think they did go out and spend the money. 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:02.880 And they got Terry. 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.280 And now hopefully they're going to build a team around him. 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.200 And I think as Reds fans, we need to come 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:14.399 together and force the Castelinis and the ownership to either 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.159 put their money where they just you know, it's like 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.240 what happened with Joe Burrow to get the highest draft pick, 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:24.199 the most wanted quarterback in the league, but you. 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:25.040 Don't protect him. 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.120 So we get Tito, you know, one of the greatest 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.400 of all time, and we're not going to give him 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.840 the club that he needs. 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:34.840 To win championships. 0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:38.960 And so I think Tito was frustrated the season with 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.879 the quality of the play of the team, which but 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:44.919 at the same time he was able to get this 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.320 team to gel at the right time. And another thing 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:50.920 is they need to take it back to where they 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:52.040 did at the end of the season. 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.879 Eight dollars tickets, three dollars beers, get thirty thousand people 0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:01.400 in that stadium, build new Reds fans, create hy When 0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.439 I was at all the Cups games, all the Mets games, 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:08.080 all the Pirates games, that's the energy we need in this. 0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:09.840 Town, all the time for the Reds. 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.160 I was hoping for a World Series threade this year 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:13.119 because I thought. 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:17.520 Hey, never know, but that was our World Series. We 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.959 just played the champions out there. They're the big dogs. 0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:22.879 They got the best of the best of the best, 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.800 the highest paid players, the most hampered players. 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:28.240 They got it all. 0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:31.240 So we did great. You know, I thought we were 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:35.359 gonna we just we can't like the last color said consistency. 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.640 When what is your definition of great? Do you think 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:44.520 they were great? The Reds were great and out in 0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.000 LA that's what you thought. 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:50.919 Listen, Hunter Green got choice. 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.840 Yeah, you hadn't performed great and that Martinez was not great. 0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.639 Matt McClain defensively was not great. 0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:00.000 No, Matt McClain blew. 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:02.040 He should have He shouldn't have been. 0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.240 In LA he should have been sent down. 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.000 And that's that's your that's your boy, Tito, that's your boy. 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.360 Nick Krawl, Ryan, thank you for the phone call. That's 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.040 what I'm saying. Like, there are positive it takes from 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.119 this season, Don't get me wrong, there absolutely are. But 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.879 at the same time, it's like I was supposed to 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:20.879 count on on Matt McClain to be the guy this 0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:22.840 year that's really gonna help this offense, hump. 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:24.160 He was terrible. 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:28.000 So now going into the offseason, he's a huge question mark. 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.560 Who's gonna play second base. You can't look me in 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.160 the eye right now with a straight face and say, 0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.920 Matt McLean is the opening day second basement next year. 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.560 You can't do that. He's got to go and earn 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.520 that this year, at least in my opinion. Let's go 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:43.880 to Springboro and talk to Aaron. 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:49.359 What's up, Aaron, say Austin, I'm gonna take the other 0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.399 side of a couple of these arguments. Okay, the first 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.800 off and McClean that this was a comeback season from 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:59.240 a terrible shoulder injury, okay, and that's a very, very 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.719 tough injury to come back. So I think next year 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.399 will be the telling factor whether or not he reverts 0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.800 back to his rookie season or if you know, it's 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:07.560 more of the same for this year. So I'm gonna 0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.840 give him some grace. But you got to move him 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:11.520 over to short stoff. You got to get Ellie out 0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:15.520 in left field or possibly even right, moving Barka, you know, 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.520 over to the other side. I don't think he was 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:19.560 touched Freedol. He's too good at a center fielder. But 0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.120 get Ellie the hell out of short stop, no doubt 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.520 about it. You can put Stewart at second base. But 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:28.040 the bottom line is the castelines are on the clock 0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.080 right now. They're good people, good community leaders, all that. 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.080 But you know, when they bought the Red they said 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.119 they would bring a championship baseball to Cincinnati. 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:36.960 Clearly they haven't delivered. 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:39.880 It's one of your other callers was talking about, you know, 0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.440 the fan support was there this year. I went to 0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.280 more games, watch more games than I have in many, 0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.760 many years. And they're an exciting team, but they're also 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.960 very frustrating team. You know that they did two point 0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.440 one million and in attendance, and guy only knows what 0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.480 they did in merch sales, alcohol, food, all that good stuff. 0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.360 So the Castolines can spend some money and still be 0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.560 very profit. Well, we all know they're not could go 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:03.560 out and get Schwber, but there are some big bats 0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.160 out there that they could get. I think you put 0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.560 one more big bat in that lineup, and you give 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:12.160 La some protection, and you give Steers some protection. I think, 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.400 you know, if they're pitching can hold together, I think 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:17.840 they're they're very close to make a deep run in 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:19.960 the playoffs. They're not that far away from the Dodgers. 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.120 They're really not. You look at the you know, the 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.960 seven games or eight games they played against them, they 0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:26.160 were all pretty tight. 0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:27.480 They were all pretty darn close. 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.480 Obviously, Hunter Green, you know, scrapped the bed the other night. 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:35.640 But you know they didn't. They didn't lay down even 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.560 in Game two. You know, my son was out there 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.360 in Los Angeles in that game. He's a he's Dodgers fan. 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.680 He's out there playing for college baseball. But bottom line is, 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.960 you said it was exciting they brought in Sasaki and 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.440 you know red side the bases loaded in the ninth 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:49.880 you know, freedom was a tying run at the. 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:53.040 Plate, and again they couldn't get that big hit by 0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.840 Mike Count. In eight games against the Dodgers this year, 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:59.760 the Dodgers outscored the Reds forty eight to twenty four. Well, 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.240 but I do see what you're saying, and I appreciate 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:04.280 the optimistic side of it. 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:05.520 Aaron, thank you for the phone call. 0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.760 And I think the Eli to the outfield conversation, I 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.840 think that's a conversation that needs to be had. He 0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.800 had his worst season defensively, and I think you know, 0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:16.880 there was a lot going on. He lost his sister, 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.480 he was trying to play one hundred and sixty two games. 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.360 There were some other off the field stuff going on 0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.120 for him. He was dealing with a quad injury. He 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.880 had tweaked this swing. I felt like there was just 0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:28.640 a lot on the plate of Elie de la Cruz 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.760 this year, and I'm gonna trust that he's going to 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.240 get better next year, but again I can't bank on that. 0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.800 And defensively it was really bad. And my whole thing 0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:43.160 with moving Ellie to the outfield, which I was finally 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.720 on board with this year after how poorly he played 0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.600 at shortstop, My whole thing was, well, you get Matt 0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.560 McClain to play shortstop. Well, now, I don't know if 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.000 that's the case. I don't know if he can play shortstop. 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:55.120 I don't know if he's going to be a part 0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.920 of this lineup. And yes, McClain is coming back from 0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.600 a devastating shoulder injury, and historically it takes time for. 0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:02.960 Those people to return to form. 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:07.200 However, if it's about winning right now, and specifically winning 0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.320 before the end of this decade, when Ellie de la 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.520 Cruz's contract is up, you don't have a bunch of 0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:17.960 time to wait, you don't and so there needs to be, 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.600 in my mind, urgency now. Our caller said that the 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.480 cash Delini's are on the clock. I don't think that 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.760 they are. I mean, it's their clock. They can set 0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.640 it to whatever they want. But I do think there 0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.080 is got to be some urgency this year because number one, 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:32.960 in twenty twenty seven, I don't think we're gonna play 0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.560 baseball because of the lockout. Number two, I don't think 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.560 Terry Francone is gonna manage much longer. So there has 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.280 to be urgency now about getting it in and trying 0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.360 to find a way to win. In my opinion, there 0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:46.440 is and there are plenty of good things to take 0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.960 from this season. But I just don't know if I 0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.400 fully believe in the plan and then the people making 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:58.200 the plan and executing the plan to execute said plan. 0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:00.400 I want to talk to Joe Dana and when we 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.320 come back after the news, because Joe, even though he's 0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.400 out at the high school game right now, I think 0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.560 has decided to give us some time. And he was 0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:13.080 out there in Los Angeles and he talked about there 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:19.280 being a sense of accomplishment in the Reds clubhouse after 0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.240 they lost to the to the Dodgers, and that kind 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.720 of rubbed me the wrong way. I'm looking for some 0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:31.680 perspective on that from Joe Daneman when we return. Easier 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.640 said than done, all right here on the Home of 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.560 the Reds, seven hundred WLW. 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:58.280 The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm. 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.440 Hi, Hello, Welcome in our number two sports talk on 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.600 a Friday night, seven hundred WLW. My name is Austin 0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:11.560 Elmore in for Lance McAllister. Tonight, we've talked Reds and 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.200 Bengals in hour number one. I want to continue that 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:18.120 split conversation with a man who covers both for Fox nineteen. 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.360 His name is Joey d. 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.520 Joe Danoman surely somewhere near a high school football field 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.840 right now, but shows to take time to spend with us. 0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.360 And Joe was in Los Angeles covering the Reds and 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.440 the Dodgers in the National League Wildcard round. Joe, what 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.120 was that experience like for you? 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.080 Well, I'm sure we're going to talk about one of 0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.680 the tweets I put out there after the game, the 0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:44.120 sense of accomplishment one. 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.800 Yeah, and listen, it's on my paper. 0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.480 Yeah, I know it is. And it's a great debate point. 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.520 It's a great talking point because you never know what 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.800 you're going to walk into when you walk into a 0:33:56.840 --> 0:34:00.360 locker room or a clubhouse after the season ends. I 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:04.400 think people would be surprised sometimes how emotionless it can be, 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.040 especially for guys who woul played such. 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:07.760 A long season. 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.560 So I wasn't sure how what it was going to 0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.320 be like when I walked in young team, first playoff experience, 0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.600 had some chances to do some damage late in both games, 0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.480 couldn't come up with the big hit when they needed. 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.920 When we walked in, it was a lot of handshakes. 0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:22.360 It was a lot of hugs, and you could just 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.480 feel the tone in the room. And I asked multiple 0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.800 guys this. I wanted to make sure I wasn't misreading 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.320 the room. I said to Spencer Year and A TJ. Friedel, 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:33.480 I said, correct me if I'm wrong, if I'm misreading 0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:36.319 the room. But it feels like a sense of accomplishment 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:38.080 in this room. And they both agreed with it. And 0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:42.000 we can debate whether that's the correct reaction the Reds 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.279 should have had. Should fans be disappointed, should the team 0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.600 be disappointed? I think that's different for every fan how 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.840 they digest the season. But let me say this for 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.279 the team, they were all row one hundred percent disappointed 0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.719 in the way they played. They're disappointed that it came 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.239 to an end after two games. They thought they would 0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:04.520 have tooken that to a third game and taken the 0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.200 Dodgers to the break. But the idea of a sense 0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:11.480 of accomplishment, to me, I think personally, is the correct 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.279 tone for this team to have when it's such a 0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.920 young group and they set a goal before the season 0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.759 of getting to the playoffs. They backed in. Let's be 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:20.520 honest about it, that the Mets had to have a 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.600 collapse again, and that happened, but the red did get there. 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.719 They accomplished what we said before the season they should accomplish, 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.759 and that's getting to the playoffs. That's why, to me, 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.920 it felt like the right reaction for the Reds to 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:37.080 feel like they accomplished something. Whether the season was a 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.400 success or not, I think that's a different debate, but 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.240 that's absolutely how it felt in there, and I confirmed 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.160 that with multiple players that that was the correct feeling. 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.840 Do you think the organization itself feels a sense of 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:50.560 accomplishment after this season. 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:55.360 That's tough to say, because that's different the sense of 0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.960 accomplishment for the players. The young players who did this 0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.440 for the first time understand that this could be step 0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.760 one and a multi step process that a young group 0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:06.960 has to go through to ultimately get to where they 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.200 want to go. That should be looked at as a 0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:14.840 sense of accomplishment. The organization's a different conversation because the 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:19.560 organization understands what they have, understands what they need to 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.960 build around, and did they do enough to build around 0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:24.400 this team? That's the question. 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:24.680 Now. 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.359 If we looked at what they were at the All 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.239 Star break and what they added to get better. I 0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.640 think we would all argue they did a pretty good 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.480 job they being the front office of getting guys who 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:39.040 can supplement and help this team make a push in 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.360 the second half, that if there was an opportunity they 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.200 could take advantage and do it. And the guys like 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:47.200 Miguel and Douhrer and Zach Lettel, those guys did help. 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.760 Kee Brian Hayes would argue for a month's help before 0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:54.360 he just stopped hitting the ball altogether. But organizationally, no, 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.360 they have to look at it different. The organization. While 0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.279 it's so hard to try to compare this team to 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.600 a Dodgers team or to a Yankee team, or pick 0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.520 your high dollar organization, Uh, it feels like you're comparing 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.560 apples to oranges just because of what they can spend 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:15.160 and what they can build. But but if we have 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.680 conversations with Reds players and red Off Reds Off front 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.840 office members in spring training pointing to what the Arizona 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.799 Diamondbacks did a couple of seasons ago, then it can 0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:26.520 be done and they know it can be done, and 0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:30.120 so organizationally, I wouldn't say this was an accomplishment, uh, 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.960 because just getting to the playoffs for any organization should 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.719 not be the standard should not be enough. But that 0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:39.240 also comes with the understanding of what I saw watching 0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.120 the Dodgers play that that was different. I mean that 0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.000 what they have talked about them is just different from 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.799 the Reds and and and so maybe maybe it's a 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.239 hard thing for us to hold the organization to a 0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.440 higher standard. But if if you're going to be a 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:57.640 professional organization and an ownership group in a professional organization, 0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.960 you have to have a higher standard than just getting 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:00.880 to the playoffs. 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:04.640 What did we learn about Terry Francona this season and 0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:08.440 how can that shape what we can expect from the 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.160 Reds moving forward. 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.200 You know what's interesting is they played one hundred and 0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.040 sixty two games and two playoff games, so one hundred 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.200 and sixty four games, and it never felt like they 0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:24.239 ever landed on an offensive identity or maybe even just 0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.440 an identity for the team. It kind of felt like 0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:29.719 it changed given on the matchup. And maybe that's what 0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:33.839 he had to do with a team that did have faws. Right, 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:35.960 is the idea that in some games you have to 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.080 lean on pitching and defense, and then in some games 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.440 you have to put an extra stick in a lineup 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:43.480 and just try to outscore another team depending on the matchup. 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:48.960 But understanding how Terry Francona manages a game, it doesn't 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:52.160 feel like that's what he wants it to be. I 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.600 feel like he wants to have an identity, whether that's 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.560 different from what he managed twenty years ago to looking 0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.760 at how you manage now. Certainly you can make that argument, 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:05.680 but the idea that it's just felt unsettled all the 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:07.799 way to the final game. I mean, you think about 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:12.440 these teams, especially the Dodgers, and the Dodgers might not 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:16.799 be a great barometer for this conversation Austin, because they 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:18.640 have what they have said at the top of the lineup. 0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.480 It's pretty simple, right, it's a square. 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:21.120 Peg in a square hole. 0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:23.840 It's show Hey, it's Mooki, it's Freddy, it's the ostre, 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.239 and we're not moving these guys. But it felt like 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:28.239 for the Reds even up to the final day, like 0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.080 who's hitting third, who's hitting clean up? And if you 0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.480 make the playoffs and still have that kind of turnover 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:37.600 where it's such important positions inside your lineup, it's interesting 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.240 and so I wonder if that will change next year, 0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.000 that the fact that they didn't run at all this 0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.440 year was so different from what they were and that 0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.439 seemed to be the identity of this team and that 0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:52.240 went away this year. So I don't know, even after 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.440 having a full year of Jerry Francona, the idea that 0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.400 the lineup was just unsettled all year long, to me 0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.520 was surprising, And I wonder if that'll change in year 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.360 two or if that's just the way it's going to 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.200 be with a team that's just never going to have every. 0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:09.920 Whole filling Talking to Joe Daneman, Fox nineteen final Reds 0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:14.920 question for you, the biggest question for this organization going 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:17.040 into the offseason is what. 0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:20.320 How are they going to remake this bullpen? 0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:22.960 Because the bullpen was a big. 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:24.840 Part of what they did in the second half of 0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.279 the year. I would say it became a strength if 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.560 you look at what they were early in the season 0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:31.680 to where they were at the end, where they had 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.560 so many guys they could go to guys we didn't expect. 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:37.520 They could go to the guys like a Connor Phillips, 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.880 and then you had Chase Burns in the bullpen even 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.200 you know, Big Sugar gave them, gave them some innings 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.320 out of the bullpen. I'm just naming guys, but a 0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.719 lot of these guys are going to leave, you know, 0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:52.440 the the Emelio Pegans, that Tony Santion. It turned out 0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.520 to be a strength, but that's where so much turnover 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.839 might happen for this team. And I always said, if 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:00.640 you look at the Reds and this, they've got of 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.960 young pitchers and yet on young position players. When they 0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:08.480 start investing in a bullpen, you'll know they feel they're ready. 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.240 And they started investing a little bit in the bullpen 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.959 this year and it helped them get to the playoffs. 0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:15.799 So while everybody's gonna say you got to get the 0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.080 outfield back, you got to get that right handed back, 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.879 that might be Noelvie Marte that might be taking care 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.200 of already within the organization. To me, the big question 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.760 of the offseason is they're going to lose some pictures 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.200 from their bullpen from attrition. Guys are going to sign 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:31.120 other places. 0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:32.799 How are they going to rebuild that. 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.440 And what kind of urgency are they going to have 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.840 to make sure it's a strength for next season, because 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.560 we saw how important it is for them. 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:44.200 Let's flip over to the Bengals. A big game coming 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:47.879 up at pay Corpse Stadium against the Detroit Lions. What 0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:50.680 is a after the last two weeks. What is a 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.560 realistic expectation for the Bengals on Sunday afternoon? 0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.400 That it has to look better? And I know that 0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:00.799 might be a cop out, because when you play in 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.319 the NFL, it's the any given Sunday you should be 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:06.040 out there thinking you're going to win. But let's be 0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:07.920 realistic that the Lions are one of the best and 0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.960 most dangerous offenses in the NFL, and the Bengals have 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.600 looked like they've looked the last two weeks. I think 0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.880 for the coaches to keep this locker room and for 0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:20.400 the players to still believe for the final eleven weeks, 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.880 after this game, there has. 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.280 To be belief that it can be better. 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.200 It just has to look and feel better than it's 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.000 felt in Minnesota then it felt in Denver. I don't 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.000 know what that means or what that looks like. I 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.520 think we'll know when we see it, but it just 0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.800 has to look better than it has the last two weeks. 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:41.040 It can't be a blowout, it can't be scoring less 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:44.320 than ten points. This team has to play better football 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.600 for Zach Taylor, for the coaching staff and for the 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.280 players all to look at each other and say, Okay, 0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.279 we believe we can still be competitive for the rest 0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.440 of the season. If this thing is another blowout, you're 0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:58.600 going to start wondering about a locker room that's going 0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:02.120 to become fractured and coaches that might start losing players. 0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.520 So it just has to look better on Sunday. Whatever 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:06.200 that is, I think we'll know at once we see it. 0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:10.000 Zach Taylor said this week that he has unwavering faith 0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.719 in Jake Browning. What was your responsor what was your 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:16.080 reaction to that, and what do you make of the 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:20.759 movement that the Bengals should look elsewhere for another quarterback 0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:21.920 not named Jake Browning. 0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:27.000 I give Jake Browning a two or three week window 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.560 here to prove needs to be the quarterback for the 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:32.319 rest of the season. And I don't know what the 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:36.520 other options might be, whether it's everybody's talking about Russell Wilson. 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.840 They're not going to take on the payroll of Kirk Cousins, 0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.520 but there are other quarterbacks out there that they could 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:44.000 go get. But the question is once you get them 0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.120 to Cincinnati, how long does it take them to get 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.600 them comfortable in the playbooks so they can go out. 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:50.200 And help you win football games. 0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.080 I don't know what that answer is. The shame of 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.920 the season is is the AFC feels open, the AFC 0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:59.160 North feels vulnerable, and the Bengals are in a position 0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:00.880 where right now it does and feel like they can 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:01.799 take advantage. 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:02.879 But to answer your. 0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:06.120 Question, he's got the Lions game, he's got the Packers game, 0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.440 and I think maybe the short week with the Steelers 0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.640 they had no option but to play him. So I 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.920 think he's got a three week window to do exactly 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:17.040 what I said last question, and that's just feel better. 0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.560 It has to feel better than Jake Browning because you 0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.360 think back to twenty twenty three, and we all do 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.919 this auction, right, we go back to twenty twenty three 0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.359 and we say, oh, Jake was four and three and 0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.520 they were competitive, And you think about anybody in life 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.400 you have this baseline test. Think about like athletes with 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:35.799 the concussion baseline test they take and then you use 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.640 that to evaluate if something's wrong. So if we use 0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:42.000 twenty twenty three as the baseline, I don't think the 0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.759 roster is that much different two years later. I don't 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.920 think they're that much worse on the roster two years later. 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.360 So at some point the fingers kind of do go 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.520 back to Jake Browning and say, what's up, man, Why 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.560 aren't you playing like you did two years ago. So 0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.480 I think the spotlight and the cross hairs are on 0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.879 Jake Browning a little bit more or than people might think. 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.960 He's got this window here of a few weeks to 0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:06.600 prove he should be the guy for the rest of 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.319 the season. And let's be honest, Look, the Lions are 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:13.360 an unbelievable offense. Maybe I would argue the best offense 0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:15.760 in the NFL. If you can score on their defense, 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.960 the Bengals should score some points against the Lions. If 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:22.520 they're not able to move the ball, score touchdowns and 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:26.560 score points against the Lions, those crosshairs get even bigger 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:28.719 on Jake Browning. I think he's got a three week 0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:30.759 window to prove he should be the guy for the 0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:31.359 rest of the year. 0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.920 Talking to Joe Danavan Fox nineteen, Joe, it's a Friday night. 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:37.000 I know you guys are all over the high school 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:40.200 football coverage. My sources tell me you're at the pit 0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.600 right now, getting set for Elder and Moler. What do 0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.440 you expect tonight? What's the atmosphere going to be like tonight? 0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:47.719 I hear a band back there. 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:50.920 Yeah, you can hear right now. The band is finishing 0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.680 up last minute preparation. So it sounds great. It sounds 0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.120 like high school football. It was really cool Austin. When 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:59.040 they were bringing the band out, the announcer said, the 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:02.640 best place in the country to watch high school football 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:03.759 is right here at the pit. 0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:04.440 It's one of those. 0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:05.279 Goosebump kind of things. 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:05.520 Right. 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.400 You got Moeller who's only got one loss. You've got Elder, 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.279 who's undefeated after six weeks for the first time at 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:14.960 almost twenty five years. This is a Cincinnati as a 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:19.680 yet evan y two brand name teams playing in Cincinnati's 0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:23.960 best high school venue. And the greatest part, Austin, you 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:27.640 can watch this game live on TV on Fox nineteen 0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:32.200 ninety Wow nineteen point three digital station. You can watch 0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.719 it live tonight on Fox nineteen Pretty cool. 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.480 That is incredible. Joe, thank you so much. Thanks for 0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.840 making some time for me. Man really appreciate it. Have 0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:41.520 a great weekend. 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:47.960 Talk to you Tuesday. Cincondadi Cincondadi's ESPN fifteen thirty on 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:50.360 Cincy three fifty Austin. 0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:56.160 Yes, Joe, Yes, yes, yes, Joe joins us every Tuesday 0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.200 on our show down the Hall, and he made some 0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:01.479 time for me. And that is a sold out game 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:05.320 at the pit by the way, ten thousand standing tall 0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:08.960 on a purple Friday. We'll keep you updated as it 0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.560 goes along. Let's get into a little bit of Bengals conversation. 0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:15.640 Let's do that next right here, seven hundred WLW just 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:19.080 about halfway through, coming up half an hour from right now. 0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.160 We're gonna go off the beaten path with your sports 0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:25.799 bucket list? What's on it? What have you crossed off? 0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.520 What have you added to it? This, of course, because 0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:31.480 I'm going to lambeau Field next week to watch the 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:35.120 Bengals play the Green Bay Packers. I booked this trip 0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.440 a long time ago, and I keep reminding myself it's 0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:39.960 because I love football more than I love the Bengals. 0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:42.719 That's what I keep reminding myself, because I don't think 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.359 it's gonna go well. Most people don't think it's gonna 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.919 go well for the Bengals on Sunday against the three 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:51.839 and one Detroit Lions. And we'll get into a little 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.560 bit after the news, because really it is as simple 0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:58.560 as what Joe Daneman said, play better. That's at least 0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.759 what most of us are looking for. And earlier this week, 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:04.480 Zach Taylor met with the media as he normally does, 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:07.360 and a lot of people don't realize Zach and Dan Campbell, 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:09.040 the head coach of the Lions, kind of came up 0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.680 in the NFL together in Miami, and he was asked 0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:16.319 if he ever reflects on those days with Dan and 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.759 Miami and his relationship with Dan Campbell. I thought it 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:22.640 was interesting his response. Take a listen to Bengals head 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:23.600 coach Zach Taylor. 0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:25.680 Got a lot of respect for him. He's done an 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:28.680 unbelievable job. I do reflect back on in twenty twenty 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.040 one when we went up there his first year. I 0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:32.759 don't think they'd won a game yet. I could be wrong. 0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:34.480 Maybe they'd won one. I don't think they'd want any 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:38.040 knowing what they were building. You could tell they played 0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:40.239 with a lot of undrafted free agents on defense, and 0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:42.239 you could just tell they had the identity of their 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.480 coaching staff, their head coach, the way that they played, 0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.440 and they might have had all the talent in the 0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:48.640 world then, and we got the best of them that day, 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.040 but you could see something that was building in the future. 0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:53.160 Whether people believed it at the time or not, it 0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:55.680 was very clear. And so now you're here in twenty 0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:57.440 twenty five and they've had the success they've had over 0:48:57.480 --> 0:48:59.120 the years, they have the success they've had this year, 0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.680 win in three in a row. It's a really good 0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:05.840 football team. I love personally playing playing these types of games. 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:07.440 These are my favorite games to play. This is why 0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:09.800 we do it again. Our backs against the wall a 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:11.640 little bit going in this game off of two losses. 0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.800 That's perfect. You know, I'd like to see Howardbery responds. 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:17.799 Who lives in fear, who thrives in the university. It's 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.880 it's a great opportunity for a coach to really assess 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.359 what guys are made of, myself included. And so again 0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:27.279 it's a tremendous opportunity that we are. We are not 0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:29.040 running from, we are running directly into. 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.960 What do you think the identity of the Bengals is 0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:39.040 if it matches the identity of their head coach. If 0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:42.239 it is like the Detroit Lions and they are made 0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:44.680 in the image of their head coach, what then is 0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:48.759 the Bengals identity. I think the Bengals identity is more 0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:55.239 Joe Burrow, which is calm, cool, collected, confident, and I 0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:59.279 think Zach has some of those traits as well. But 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.319 I think right now the Bengals are searching for their 0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:05.320 identity without Joe Burrow, and it's going to be difficult 0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.400 to find it. Let's talk a little bit more about 0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:09.920 Sunday's game after the news right here on the Home 0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:14.320 of the Best, Bengals covered seven hundred WLW. Matt Ponatowski 0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:20.120 led the Mohler Crusaders on a thirteen play drive resulting 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:24.680 in a touchdown to Cooper McCutcheon, and the Crusaders have 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:28.200 a seven to nothing lead at Elder to start the night. 0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:31.200 We'll keep you updated as it goes. Let's keep talking football. 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:37.839 Let's talk Bengals as I've got as we've gone through 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:41.440 the week trying to figure out this team. Right now, 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:47.319 I've realized there's really not that much to say. They 0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:50.640 have to play better, and until they play better, you 0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.440 really have no idea what the future of the team is. 0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:57.560 If they play that poorly, you can't really evaluate and 0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:00.640 look towards the future. You just start talking about blaming 0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:04.240 coaches and firing people, and you start wondering about should 0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:06.319 Burrow come back, will Burrow come back? Should they go 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:09.600 get another quarterback. I think you look to Friday's game 0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:14.000 or to Monday's game, and you think, yeah, Jake Browning 0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:17.440 could have played better, should have played better. If he does, 0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:21.360 maybe it's more competitive. But I also look at it 0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.440 and say, the defense continues to struggle. The run game 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.680 was okay, but was not existent because they were losing 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:31.680 the entire time. I counted Denver as having two negative 0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:35.680 plays the entire night. The Bengals had one tackle for 0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:38.160 loss and then they forced the interception in the red 0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:42.080 zone on a terrible decision by bow Knicks. This team 0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:44.640 is just stuck in the mud, and they've been embarrassed 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:46.920 two weeks in a row. They've gotten their face bashed 0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:52.000 in two weeks in a row. And to the final 0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:54.680 point that Zach Taylor made in that clip before the break, 0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:56.959 which is that you find out a lot about people 0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.040 in moments like this, He's exactly right. 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.840 Who are they? How are they going to respond? 0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:07.839 Because right now you come into Week five against one 0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.239 of the best offenses in the National Football League, and 0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:13.880 it's supposed to be a stripe the Jungle game, a 0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.920 game that gets the fans excited. This was supposed to 0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:20.279 be a four to twenty five national TV window with 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:23.720 Kevin Burkhart and Tom Brady on the call, but instead 0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:25.839 only a fraction of the country is going to see 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:30.480 this game on television because the Bengals are so bad 0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:35.200 and it's supposed to be a stripe the Jungle, but 0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.839 because Detroit is so good and Bengals fans are understandably 0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:40.560 fed up with the way this team has played through 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:44.160 the first two weeks. There's going to be twenty thousand 0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:47.560 Detroit Tiger fans or Detroit Lions fans there and Honolulu 0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:49.920 Blue is going to ruin the Stripe the Jungle. 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:52.200 That's my expectation for Sunday. 0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.880 It's hard to do stuff like that when the team 0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:01.840 does not the performance on the field doesn't match the 0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.040 performance off the field with the stuff you're trying to 0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:06.799 do as an organization in your marketing and that sort 0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:09.640 of stuff. At the end of the day, it is 0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:13.600 really as simple as they have to play better, and 0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:17.880 this week specifically, you have got to show signs of life, 0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:21.920 because even if you look at the film and you 0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:23.920 look at what Zach Taylor was trying to do. There 0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:27.960 were plays where receivers were open, Jake Browning played poorly, 0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:31.200 he missed them. There were plays where the concept the 0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:34.480 call was right against the coverage, but the offensive line 0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:38.480 didn't give Browning any time. There was times where penalties 0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.680 derailed thirty yard completions and chunk plays. 0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:46.000 That sort of stuff. You've got to clean it up. 0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:48.960 How are you going to react to a team that's 0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:50.879 going to come into your building and try to take 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.520 it over? And are you ready to really quit on 0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.960 the year if you're the Bengals. You know, the thing 0:53:57.000 --> 0:54:01.680 about Zach Taylor is that over his years as the 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:04.799 Bengals head coach, I never felt like they quit on him. 0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:08.840 In twenty twenty, when Burrow went down, I felt like 0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:12.640 it was the exact opposite. Instead of quitting, they dug 0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.719 their heels in and they found a way to win 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:19.600 some difficult games, most notably on a Monday night against 0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:23.560 the Pittsburgh Steelers. They dug their heels in and twenty three, 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:27.480 when Burrow went down, they did not quit. Even when 0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:30.160 Browning played poorly in that first game, they dug their 0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:32.040 heels in They didn't quit for Zack. 0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:34.440 Minnesota. 0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:38.839 With all the turnovers in Denver, with the penalties, it 0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:43.040 felt like the Bengals maybe quit a little bit, and 0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:44.520 you've got to nip that in the butt. And I 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:46.880 wonder who's the guy to step up in the locker room. 0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:48.279 Burrow's hurt. 0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:52.160 Can't be him. Ted Carris is playing atrociously. Can't be him. 0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:55.919 Same with Orlando Brown, Junior Von Bell's gone, Mike Hilton's gone, 0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:58.680 Sam Hubbard's gone. Trey Hendrickson is he one of those 0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:00.680 guys in the locker room? He had really showed up 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:03.239 much either. Who's gonna step up? 0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:04.440 So far? 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:11.239 It seems like it's Jamar Chase. That's interesting, you know, 0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:17.040 Zach and that clip with Dan talked about how the 0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:20.280 Lions at the time in the twenty twenty one season 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.840 hadn't won a game, but yet you could tell that 0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:25.680 they were building something. You could say the same thing 0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:29.200 about Zach's Bengals in twenty twenty. They weren't that good, 0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:32.319 but you could tell they were building something. There was 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:35.360 a clear direction for the organization. 0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:35.600 Now. 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:37.960 Nobody expected them to just rebound and go to the 0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:41.000 Super Bowl the way that they did, but now I'm 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:47.279 wondering what direction really is the organization going here and 0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:52.520 can anything be salvaged this year? And so I don't 0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:57.560 know that anybody expects them to win this game on Sunday. 0:55:57.640 --> 0:56:04.319 It might be a lot to ask, but can you 0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:08.080 at least show signs of life that make me feel 0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:10.600 like this season isn't already in the tank? 0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:13.160 Can you do that? 0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.520 Because you know, coming up, you've got the Pittsburgh Steelers, 0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:19.400 who I think have gotten pretty lucky so far this season. 0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:22.239 You've got the Pittsburgh Steelers on a Thursday night at home. 0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:28.319 The expectation should be to win that game. Baltimore is 0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:31.560 without Lamar Jackson this week and they're already one in three. 0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:35.840 Their season could be over before it even starts. Cleveland 0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.080 is formidable in a tough matchup to a lot of 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.800 people across the league. But by the time Week eighteen 0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:43.000 rolls around, when they come back here, should or Sanders 0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:44.200 is going to be starting and they're going to. 0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:45.359 Be playing for the number one pick. 0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:51.879 The division is certainly still in play, you would think, right, 0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:54.600 And that's with or without Borrow. Just because of the 0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:57.799 state of affairs in the AFC North and across the 0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:01.719 AFC outside of Buffalo. I don't think anybody's really gonna 0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:07.480 pull away, are they? I wouldn't think so. So this 0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:10.160 is a game where it's like, Okay, are there signs 0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:13.440 of life here at all? We're checking a pulse. Are 0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:18.520 the Bengals alive? Are they willing to fight? It really 0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:21.320 is that simple. I don't even care about the stats. 0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:23.600 I don't care if they win or lose. It is 0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:27.480 has this team given up? And can this be indicative 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:30.680 of the direction of the organization. The result that happens 0:57:31.560 --> 0:57:34.560 on Sunday against the Detroit Lions, that's all that matters. 0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:37.680 There's another result that we're gonna be looking forward to 0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:41.640 coming up tomorrow. It's gonna be the UC Bearcats hosting 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:46.720 number fourteen Iowa State. Tony Pike caught up with Brendan Soresby, 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.960 the Bearcat quarterback, earlier this week. We're gonna play some 0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.520 of that conversation for you when we get back. This 0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:57.360 is Sports Talk on a Friday night. Seven hundred Wlwaircats, 0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:01.200 fresh off of a win at Kansas host number fourteen 0:58:01.400 --> 0:58:05.120 Iowa State, and the Bearcats are actually favored in this 0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:07.720 game number one because of the way that they played 0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:12.360 against Kansas last weekend. And number two, because Iowa State's 0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:16.520 defense is banged up, there is a long list of 0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:18.800 guys that are hurt for the Cyclones not going to 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:21.720 be able to go. So the Bearcats have an opportunity 0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:26.400 to take advantage of they hope tomorrow at Nippert Stadium, 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:29.120 I co host a show down the Hall weekdays from 0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:31.480 twelve to three. It's called Sincy three to sixty and 0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:34.520 I do that with UC Hall of Famer, the legend 0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:35.640 Tony Pike. 0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:36.320 Well. 0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:40.200 Earlier this week, the current u SE quarterback Brendan Soresby 0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:43.160 was on the show and Tony interviewed him and I 0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:45.960 wanted to play some of that conversation. It starts with 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:49.640 Brendan talking about what these last few days have been 0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:54.080 like after the win over Kansas, highest rated quarterback as 0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:57.640 it relates to QBR in the country, authoring one of 0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:01.320 the best offenses in the country, off a win against 0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:03.880 a very good Kansas team in a hostile environment, and 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:07.000 now we're turning to Nippert Stadium against the fourteenth ranked 0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:11.000 Iowa State Cyclones. Brendan Soresby is joining us right now. Brendan, 0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:11.600 what's going on. 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:15.120 Man, what's going on? Thanks for having me absolutely? 0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:15.880 How you doing, man? 0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:18.560 How's the week going? You come off a big win 0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:21.800 against Kansas, you know better than anyone. You get to 0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:24.280 enjoy it for a few minutes and then you're onto 0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.160 Iowa State. What's the last couple of days been? 0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:30.439 Like a lot of recovery. Body was a little banged up. 0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:34.360 Right after the game. You know, traveling after a win 0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:37.520 is definitely a lot better. So that was a fun experience. 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:40.120 And then you know, once we got back, just making 0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:42.080 sure we got our bodies right ready to go for 0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:46.960 our Tuesday practice. So the preparation has been good, everybody focused, 0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:48.320 everybody blocked in and ready to. 0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:48.960 Go on Saturday. 0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:52.840 How big of a weight does it lift off the shoulders, 0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:55.600 because you guys have been very competitive and there have 0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:57.959 been times where it's just come up a player too 0:59:58.040 --> 1:00:01.600 short to get the ball back laid against Kansas to 1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:04.320 play as efficiently as you guys did offensively, you didn't 1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:07.360 have Joe Royer in the second half defensively, no Dante 1:00:07.400 --> 1:00:09.760 Corleone in the game to get that ball back, go 1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:12.520 down and finish that off. How much momentum does that 1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:13.800 now build for a team. 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:17.000 Well, I know, just like you know the fans have 1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:19.960 gone through it with the one score ball game is 1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:20.880 not going our way. 1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:21.840 I trust me. 1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:23.920 You know as a player that whenever you're on the 1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:26.240 losing side of those, you start to lose confidence. And 1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:28.800 we were finally on the right side of one of 1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:31.760 those and came out victorious. So, you know, being able 1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:33.880 to carry that momentum going for it would be huge 1:00:33.880 --> 1:00:36.200 for us, knowing that we can do it, knowing that 1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:38.560 we can win those close games and go close it out, 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:42.360 you know, and just playing playing a complimentary football on 1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:44.720 all three phases. You know, that was a really good 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:47.400 offensive team over there in Kansas, and you know, we 1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:49.280 knew that they were gonna be able to score points 1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:50.280 just you know they do. 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:51.480 On they do on everybody. 1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:53.960 So you know, our defense bailed us out whenever they 1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:56.080 needed to, and you know, we were able to put 1:00:56.120 --> 1:00:57.840 some drives together and put points on the board and 1:00:57.840 --> 1:01:00.080 at the end of the day, we won. So we 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:01.640 got to find a way to carry this into this 1:01:01.720 --> 1:01:04.040 week right here and find a way to go be 1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:06.320 a competitive team. And I Aloway stayed really good coach 1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:08.880 team and you know, obviously top fifteen team in the country. 1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:11.640 I thought about two thousand and nine, a game that 1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:14.640 I played against Pittsburgh. We're down, we get the ball late, 1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:18.560 and before taking the field, nothing was ever really said, 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:20.600 but you could just tell and looking in the guy's eyes, 1:01:20.600 --> 1:01:22.480 there was a confidence that you were going to go 1:01:22.480 --> 1:01:24.240 down and win the game. You guys got the ball 1:01:24.280 --> 1:01:27.080 back down thirty four to thirty with a minute forty 1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:30.080 five left, you go on a ten play drive. Take 1:01:30.120 --> 1:01:32.360 me to the sideline before the drive started, Was there 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:35.040 anything that needed to be said or did you guys 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:36.760 kind of know what was ahead of end what needed 1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:37.160 to be done. 1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:41.440 You know, everybody understood what needed to be done. 1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:42.080 Obviously. 1:01:42.120 --> 1:01:44.200 You know we're dapping each other up saying, you know, 1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:46.160 we we got this, we know what we're going to do. 1:01:46.360 --> 1:01:47.520 We know we're going to go put it in the 1:01:47.560 --> 1:01:49.680 end zone. And you know that was that. I don't 1:01:49.680 --> 1:01:50.760 think I don't. 1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:52.800 Ever think there was too much, you know, disbelief from 1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:56.080 anybody on that sideline. I think everybody understood that we 1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:57.440 were going to do whatever it took to put it 1:01:57.440 --> 1:02:00.520 in the end zone. And everybody knows how hard it 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:02.640 is to go do that, especially when the defense knows 1:02:02.680 --> 1:02:05.560 you have to score a touchdown, and we still had 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:08.920 some adverse situations that drive you know, obviously the illegal 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:11.919 touching and you know, just just a couple other things 1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:12.840 that went against us. 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:14.800 But you know, we found a way to persevere and 1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:16.160 go punch it in the end zone. 1:02:16.160 --> 1:02:18.360 And I think that's just a testament to this group 1:02:18.360 --> 1:02:21.640 of the eyes that we have, and you know, everybody's got. 1:02:21.560 --> 1:02:24.160 A common belief in a common goal that we want 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:24.400 to go. 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:26.400 We want to go win some ball games this year, 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:27.640 and we knew what it was going to take and 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:28.080 we did it. 1:02:28.360 --> 1:02:30.400 I want to get to your your offensive line in 1:02:30.440 --> 1:02:32.760 just a moment. But talk about the receiving corps. I 1:02:32.760 --> 1:02:34.840 know Joe Royer didn't play in the second half, but 1:02:34.880 --> 1:02:37.880 he had a huge third and long grab for twenty 1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:41.040 yards that kept the drive alive. We've seen Jeff Codwell, 1:02:41.120 --> 1:02:44.960 Noah Jennings with the one handed catch, Gavin Grover almost 1:02:44.960 --> 1:02:47.360 getting to the end zone getting stopped a few inches short, 1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:50.720 Caleb Goodie, Cyrus Allen with the career day. How fun 1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:53.280 is it now that you've got these guys in the system, 1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:55.920 you can see their confidence growing. How fun is it 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:57.240 to be able to spread the ball around to your 1:02:57.240 --> 1:02:58.120 receiving corps. 1:02:59.080 --> 1:02:59.880 Yeah, it's a blast. 1:03:00.000 --> 1:03:01.720 You know, it makes my life easy, It makes my 1:03:01.880 --> 1:03:04.120 job you know, fun for sure, to just be able 1:03:04.160 --> 1:03:06.600 to go out there and say, hey, you know, let 1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:08.840 these guys will make plays and you know they make 1:03:08.880 --> 1:03:09.600 me look a lot. 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:10.240 Better than I am. 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:13.040 So just finding a way to get these guys the ball, 1:03:13.080 --> 1:03:15.880 and like you said, grow over stepping up whenever Joe 1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:18.520 went down. After Joe made an amazing catch on third down, 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:20.840 you know, we'll be able to get Joe back this week. 1:03:20.880 --> 1:03:23.200 And I believe he's the best tid end of the country. 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:26.800 So that's huge for us. So you know, just the 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:29.400 ability of guys to step up whenever we need them 1:03:29.400 --> 1:03:32.360 to and just make plays is huge for us. And 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:35.360 having confidence and you know, eight guys to go out 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:37.440 there and catch a pass for you is huge for sure. 1:03:37.520 --> 1:03:38.960 So we're really excited. 1:03:38.680 --> 1:03:40.560 About this group of guys that we have, you know, 1:03:40.600 --> 1:03:43.440 out wide for us and you know, at tight end especially. 1:03:43.560 --> 1:03:46.160 So we've been saying it for a long time, but 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:48.560 people think I always give the quarterback answer. I was 1:03:48.560 --> 1:03:51.280 telling the media on Tuesday that you know, I believe 1:03:51.320 --> 1:03:53.200 in all of our guys, but I truly do. And 1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:55.080 you know, I'm willing to throw it to whoever because 1:03:55.120 --> 1:03:56.440 at the end of the day, I know they're gonna 1:03:56.440 --> 1:03:57.080 make a play for me. 1:03:57.880 --> 1:04:00.320 I look at your guys backfield, and whether it's Tyler 1:04:00.840 --> 1:04:04.400 Walker or Evan Pryor, I just can't imagine a defense 1:04:04.640 --> 1:04:07.960 having to negotiate who's getting the ball, because, make no 1:04:08.040 --> 1:04:10.480 mistake about it, Walker doesn't want to run around you. 1:04:10.520 --> 1:04:11.600 He wants to run through you. 1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:15.439 That's demoralizing for a corner or a secondary player coming 1:04:15.480 --> 1:04:17.480 up to make a tackle and then all of a sudden, 1:04:17.480 --> 1:04:20.200 Evan Pryor's got the ability to bounce one or to 1:04:20.240 --> 1:04:22.959 make you miss and then take one the distance You've 1:04:23.000 --> 1:04:25.800 got the ability to run. How much does it put 1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:28.360 on a defense though, when you've got that that power 1:04:28.640 --> 1:04:31.000 and the speed that can hit in the backfield on 1:04:31.040 --> 1:04:32.800 any given day, Yeah, I mean. 1:04:32.680 --> 1:04:34.680 It puts a ton of stress on you and especially 1:04:34.720 --> 1:04:36.960 you know, like you said, I am able to move 1:04:37.000 --> 1:04:38.880 a little bit, which makes it harder on the defense 1:04:38.960 --> 1:04:41.480 back to account for me. And then it gives our guys, 1:04:41.520 --> 1:04:43.920 you know, one less body to have to worry about. Hopefully, 1:04:43.920 --> 1:04:45.800 if I can take somebody away in the run game 1:04:45.880 --> 1:04:47.960 and you know, our guys do a really good job 1:04:48.000 --> 1:04:50.520 in one on one situations and making people miss, running 1:04:50.520 --> 1:04:51.680 through people, whatever that may be. 1:04:52.240 --> 1:04:55.080 So just I think, I think, especially. 1:04:54.760 --> 1:04:56.360 In our back quote right now, we have a ton 1:04:56.400 --> 1:04:59.280 of different different threats and stuff that we present. Like 1:04:59.320 --> 1:05:01.439 you just said, Leads a little bit more power back, 1:05:01.720 --> 1:05:02.720 but he can shake you. 1:05:02.840 --> 1:05:04.240 Evans more of a home run hitter. 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:07.440 And then I don't even know what you want to 1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:09.480 call me, but I can run a little bit. 1:05:09.520 --> 1:05:12.360 So that definitely helps now. 1:05:12.480 --> 1:05:14.880 And then just a pass game obviously being explosive right 1:05:14.920 --> 1:05:15.880 now is helping the run. 1:05:15.760 --> 1:05:18.400 Game as well. So if we can keep that going. 1:05:18.200 --> 1:05:19.680 I think we're going to be a really tough offense 1:05:19.720 --> 1:05:20.120 to stop. 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:22.600 It's just up to us to continue to execute and 1:05:22.600 --> 1:05:24.280 make sure that we're we're on our. 1:05:24.200 --> 1:05:24.800 P's and q's. 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:29.080 The first SAT giving up of the season happened against Kansas. 1:05:29.280 --> 1:05:31.520 I thought it was just the right play call at 1:05:31.520 --> 1:05:33.520 the right time for Kansas. They brought a pressure when 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:35.800 you guys were running. A little play action makes it 1:05:35.800 --> 1:05:38.800 a little bit tougher to block. But the offensive line 1:05:38.880 --> 1:05:40.840 up front. You look at your running numbers, you look 1:05:40.880 --> 1:05:42.880 at the passing game numbers, you look at your ability 1:05:42.920 --> 1:05:46.400 to stay clean at times in the pocket. How important 1:05:46.480 --> 1:05:47.840 is that group up front, Ben. 1:05:48.840 --> 1:05:51.000 I mean, they've been they've been a huge help for 1:05:51.080 --> 1:05:53.640 us this year, especially you know in the past game 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:55.120 in the Run game. You know, they've been doing a 1:05:55.120 --> 1:05:57.840 really good job of blogging for the Run, and then 1:05:57.880 --> 1:06:00.880 they've been doing an excellent job of of walking and 1:06:00.880 --> 1:06:04.240 protecting for the Past. That one sack is is very 1:06:04.360 --> 1:06:06.520 unfortunate because, like you know, on a little boot leg 1:06:06.680 --> 1:06:08.440 like that, the old line really doesn't have anything to 1:06:08.480 --> 1:06:11.280 do with it, So that was unfortunate. 1:06:11.440 --> 1:06:13.040 I was I was trying to do everything. 1:06:12.800 --> 1:06:15.280 I could to throw it away on you know, avoid 1:06:15.320 --> 1:06:16.919 that sack, especially. 1:06:16.640 --> 1:06:17.640 For the big guy's sake. 1:06:17.760 --> 1:06:20.320 But you know, they're playing really well up front and 1:06:20.600 --> 1:06:21.000 couldn't be. 1:06:21.000 --> 1:06:21.880 Happier for that group. 1:06:21.960 --> 1:06:23.960 I love that group of guys, and you know, I 1:06:24.000 --> 1:06:26.040 hope they continue to love me and protect me throughout 1:06:26.040 --> 1:06:27.440 the rest of the season. I'm gonna try to take 1:06:27.440 --> 1:06:29.240 care of them as much as possible because they're putting 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:30.000 their bodies in the line. 1:06:30.000 --> 1:06:30.520 Every player. 1:06:31.040 --> 1:06:32.920 Well, as long as you keep getting to these steak dinners, 1:06:32.960 --> 1:06:34.680 I think they're gonna they're gonna take care of you. You 1:06:34.720 --> 1:06:36.600 said earlier in the week that after wins, you're taking 1:06:36.600 --> 1:06:38.200 the offensive lineman to Jeff Rubies. 1:06:38.280 --> 1:06:38.800 Is that right? 1:06:39.840 --> 1:06:41.320 I take them there. I try to take them there 1:06:41.320 --> 1:06:42.040 after every win. 1:06:43.000 --> 1:06:46.680 You know, obviously Jeff Rubis is a very top spot 1:06:46.680 --> 1:06:49.880 in Cincinnati, so it's kind of tough to get reservations, 1:06:49.880 --> 1:06:51.040 but they usually look us up. 1:06:51.120 --> 1:06:54.840 So are you we talking just the starting five linemen 1:06:54.960 --> 1:06:57.080 or any lineman that plays in the game. How how 1:06:57.120 --> 1:06:58.560 do you decide who gets. 1:06:58.400 --> 1:07:00.360 To go us? 1:07:00.440 --> 1:07:02.080 It's any lineman that plays in the game. 1:07:02.240 --> 1:07:04.760 So after after the Northwestern State we had to make 1:07:04.760 --> 1:07:05.560 some adjustments. 1:07:05.560 --> 1:07:08.000 We had boys I don't know, I don't know about this. 1:07:07.880 --> 1:07:11.920 One, but no, it was, uh, it's usually any lineman 1:07:11.920 --> 1:07:13.560 that plays in the game, and you know, we try 1:07:13.600 --> 1:07:15.680 to make sure that they're taken care of because they're 1:07:15.720 --> 1:07:17.560 doing a heck of a job up for sure. 1:07:17.800 --> 1:07:20.280 They're pushing for those those heavy linemen sets. Then they 1:07:20.320 --> 1:07:21.920 want to they want to get six to seven linemen 1:07:21.920 --> 1:07:22.360 in the game. 1:07:23.160 --> 1:07:26.480 Oh yeah, No, they're they're trying. They're trying to coach. 1:07:26.520 --> 1:07:28.280 Carbo keeps trying to throw other guys in there. 1:07:28.280 --> 1:07:30.000 I'm like, hey, we don't, we don't need to keep 1:07:30.000 --> 1:07:32.000 going this thing. 1:07:33.920 --> 1:07:37.320 That is Tony Pike with Brendan Soresby. Just a really 1:07:37.400 --> 1:07:41.040 impressive dude, really really good conversation. You can find the 1:07:41.040 --> 1:07:44.600 whole thing on the iHeartRadio app with Tony and Brendan. 1:07:44.720 --> 1:07:46.800 And obviously a huge game. If he keeps playing the 1:07:46.840 --> 1:07:49.920 way he's playing, the Bearcats definitely have a chance to 1:07:50.000 --> 1:07:54.280 knock off Iowa State tomorrow. Coming up in the final hour, 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:57.880 we go Off the Beaten Path your sports bucket list 1:07:58.240 --> 1:08:01.160 five one, three, seven, four, nine thousand. That's after the 1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:03.680 News on seven hundred WLW. 1:08:14.880 --> 1:08:27.439 The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm. 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:31.960 I Hello, and welcome in to the final hour of 1:08:32.040 --> 1:08:34.280 Sports Talk seven hundred WLW. 1:08:34.280 --> 1:08:35.400 My name's Austin Elmore. 1:08:35.439 --> 1:08:38.960 Happy to be with you on this lovely Friday night 1:08:39.080 --> 1:08:43.240 in Cincinnati, the tri State and the world. And Lance 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:48.880 typically does an off the Beaten Path topic on Fridays, 1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:51.559 and you know, I wanted to join in on that. 1:08:51.680 --> 1:08:54.120 I wanted to, in the spirit of that, do an 1:08:54.120 --> 1:08:57.519 off the Beaten path topic, and I figured, you know what, 1:08:57.800 --> 1:09:01.120 next week, I am going to something off of my 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:06.040 sports bucket list that I am unbelievably excited about. And 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:09.439 I want to know about your experiences, your sports bucket list. 1:09:10.120 --> 1:09:12.479 What have you crossed off your list? What have you 1:09:12.560 --> 1:09:15.920 added to your list? What have you you know? What 1:09:15.960 --> 1:09:18.720 do you have planned to cross off your list? I, 1:09:18.760 --> 1:09:22.000 of course I am talking about next week when the Bengals 1:09:22.040 --> 1:09:26.400 play the Green Bay Packers. I'm going up to lambeau Field. 1:09:27.600 --> 1:09:30.080 I'm so excited about this. This is like the mecca 1:09:30.600 --> 1:09:33.519 of football. One of the oldest stadiums, one of the 1:09:33.560 --> 1:09:37.519 most historic stadiums in this small and sleepy town in 1:09:37.560 --> 1:09:42.960 Wisconsin that is literally all Green Bay Packer football. It 1:09:43.080 --> 1:09:46.880 is woven into the culture there, and so I'm doing 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:47.800 the whole experience. 1:09:47.840 --> 1:09:49.320 I'm going up a few days early. 1:09:49.560 --> 1:09:52.880 I'm going to tour the stadium, I'm gonna check out 1:09:52.920 --> 1:09:57.080 the Packers Hall of Fame, and then I'm just gonna explore. 1:09:57.439 --> 1:10:01.840 I've been making a list of different restaurants that I 1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:04.439 want to try, people I want to try to get 1:10:04.439 --> 1:10:07.280 in touch with when I'm there, the whole nine yards, 1:10:07.360 --> 1:10:11.880 just to experience this little town that loves football so much, 1:10:12.040 --> 1:10:15.479 in this historic stadium, which is just a bowl all 1:10:15.520 --> 1:10:18.320 the way around, and I can't wait to check it out. 1:10:18.320 --> 1:10:21.640 So if you've been I would love any recommendations you 1:10:21.720 --> 1:10:25.759 have for me, or if you have recently crossed something 1:10:25.800 --> 1:10:29.840 off your sports bucket list or are about to, or 1:10:30.439 --> 1:10:32.000 just want to tell me what's at the top. 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:34.000 Of your list. I'd love to hear from you. 1:10:34.160 --> 1:10:38.240 Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand is the 1:10:38.280 --> 1:10:40.280 phone number. Now I don't know that this is at 1:10:40.280 --> 1:10:42.960 the top of my list, it definitely is towards the 1:10:43.000 --> 1:10:47.759 top for me. My number one is still Augusta National 1:10:47.800 --> 1:10:50.160 Golf Club. I want to go to the Masters. I 1:10:50.200 --> 1:10:53.800 want to experience the grounds at Augusta. I have been 1:10:53.840 --> 1:10:57.599 able to cross off one off my sports bucket list, 1:10:58.240 --> 1:11:05.320 and that is Ohio State Michigan. The game the top 1:11:05.439 --> 1:11:08.599 rivalry in my opinion, in all of sports, and I'm 1:11:08.600 --> 1:11:11.400 an Ohio State fan. So I wanted to go to 1:11:11.600 --> 1:11:14.880 the game at Michigan. I wanted to experience the big 1:11:14.920 --> 1:11:17.640 house and the fans and the whole nine yards, and 1:11:17.680 --> 1:11:24.160 so I got to do that at in twenty nineteen, 1:11:25.800 --> 1:11:28.439 right before you know they shut it down with COVID 1:11:28.479 --> 1:11:30.960 and then really right because actually the last time Ohio 1:11:31.000 --> 1:11:33.840 State beat Michigan, I was there and I was blown 1:11:33.880 --> 1:11:37.880 away by how cool that place was. And I don't 1:11:37.880 --> 1:11:40.160 have many nice things to say about the folks in 1:11:40.240 --> 1:11:42.719 ann Arbor. I mean, there is a true hatred there 1:11:42.880 --> 1:11:46.599 for that university. But the stadium was pretty dankole and 1:11:46.640 --> 1:11:49.559 I think about that all the time, that moment walking 1:11:49.600 --> 1:11:52.360 into it, and then just the feeling that you get 1:11:53.200 --> 1:11:56.600 when you're in an. 1:11:55.960 --> 1:11:56.760 Environment like that. 1:11:57.520 --> 1:12:01.120 My producer, Drew wester Heidi he and I were talking 1:12:01.120 --> 1:12:03.360 about this on the break. Drew, what what's at the 1:12:03.360 --> 1:12:04.920 top of your sports bucket list? 1:12:05.240 --> 1:12:08.240 Well, Augusta National for one, Now, that is the that 1:12:08.360 --> 1:12:11.640 is the top. That is the peak. But how attainable 1:12:11.680 --> 1:12:16.240 that is? So the top attainable one I have is 1:12:16.760 --> 1:12:18.960 Fenway Park. Oh, that's a great one in Boston. 1:12:19.439 --> 1:12:19.840 It is. 1:12:20.040 --> 1:12:22.240 I think it's for my money, it's the coolest ballpark 1:12:22.680 --> 1:12:26.480 in the country. The history around it, just how it's 1:12:26.840 --> 1:12:30.160 you know, changed so much, but also kept like the 1:12:30.200 --> 1:12:33.839 original design of it. Seeing the Green Monster in person, 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:37.000 that whole like area around the ballpark is really cool. 1:12:37.040 --> 1:12:40.320 So that that is at the top of my attainable 1:12:40.760 --> 1:12:43.360 sports bucket list. That's cool. Have you ever been to 1:12:43.400 --> 1:12:45.720 Wrigley Field. I've been to Wrigley Field. I've not seen 1:12:45.760 --> 1:12:47.760 a baseball game at Wrigley Field. I've been to a 1:12:47.800 --> 1:12:52.639 concert at Wrigley Field, but I'm I'm hoping to scratch 1:12:52.720 --> 1:12:55.080 that one off. Next season. The Reds have a road 1:12:55.160 --> 1:12:58.439 series in Chicago towards the I think believe it's in August, 1:12:59.040 --> 1:13:00.800 so we're gonna try and get that one crossed off. 1:13:00.840 --> 1:13:03.479 I know, if you'd have told twelve year old Drew, hey, 1:13:04.080 --> 1:13:05.680 when you go to the first the first time you 1:13:05.720 --> 1:13:07.439 ever go to Wrigley Field, it's gonna be for a concert, 1:13:07.520 --> 1:13:09.720 not a baseball game, twelve year old me may have 1:13:09.880 --> 1:13:10.920 like broke down crime. 1:13:11.120 --> 1:13:12.200 Yeah, that's so. 1:13:12.400 --> 1:13:14.880 But what's cool about Wrigley and I would assume is 1:13:14.880 --> 1:13:19.639 the same about Fenway Park, is it feels like you're 1:13:19.720 --> 1:13:23.360 walking back in time. Yes, it's like a time machine 1:13:23.960 --> 1:13:26.320 because so much of it is the exact same and 1:13:26.360 --> 1:13:28.160 the ivy and it hasn't changed. 1:13:28.200 --> 1:13:28.439 Really. 1:13:28.520 --> 1:13:30.840 I went once before they renovated it and once after 1:13:30.880 --> 1:13:34.200 they renovated it to Wrigley and it's still like the 1:13:34.240 --> 1:13:37.400 same feeling. It really is like walking into a time machine. 1:13:38.040 --> 1:13:38.719 It's amazing. 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:41.479 Let's go to the phones five one, three, seven, four, nine, 1:13:41.520 --> 1:13:46.240 seven thousand. Let's go to Glenn in Cincinnati. What's up, Glenn, Hey, 1:13:46.320 --> 1:13:48.880 not much. How you doing tonight? I'm wonderful man. What's 1:13:48.920 --> 1:13:49.439 on your mind? 1:13:50.320 --> 1:13:50.599 Great? 1:13:50.680 --> 1:13:52.960 Not much, Hey, you've been been very blessed. Been to 1:13:53.040 --> 1:13:57.920 Augusta National for uh oh practic and the regular rounds. 1:13:57.960 --> 1:14:01.240 That's a side that you've got to take and if 1:14:01.240 --> 1:14:04.240 you if you ever get the opportunity. But great story. 1:14:04.280 --> 1:14:07.960 You were just talking about Lambeau. We had an opportunity 1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:10.840 to go up there a few weeks ago for the 1:14:11.040 --> 1:14:14.840 Thursday night game against the Washington Commanders. 1:14:14.840 --> 1:14:16.720 Although I still call him the redskin kid. 1:14:17.880 --> 1:14:20.840 Yeah, and great story. But first of all, you got 1:14:20.840 --> 1:14:22.880 to take in the sights. I'm glad you're gonna get 1:14:22.960 --> 1:14:26.760 into the museum. But so we were in the in 1:14:26.840 --> 1:14:29.760 the seats on the lower area and there was a 1:14:30.640 --> 1:14:34.360 medical emergency enough to make fun of that, and a 1:14:34.360 --> 1:14:36.360 gentleman was having a really bad time. 1:14:36.479 --> 1:14:39.479 We had to carry him up to the to the tunnel. 1:14:39.560 --> 1:14:42.640 The EMTs came and was working on him and he 1:14:42.680 --> 1:14:46.080 was in kind of bad shape. But ten minutes later 1:14:46.280 --> 1:14:48.920 is his buddy who was with him comes back down. 1:14:48.960 --> 1:14:50.440 He's set in his seats. 1:14:51.080 --> 1:14:53.679 And I looked over and I said, hey man. 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:55.240 I said, how's your friend? 1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:56.120 What's going on? 1:14:56.240 --> 1:14:57.479 He goes, well, he. 1:14:57.479 --> 1:14:58.479 Seems to be doing all care. 1:14:58.600 --> 1:15:00.559 Now they're take him to the hospital, he said, But 1:15:01.000 --> 1:15:02.720 I drove two and a half hours to come watch 1:15:02.760 --> 1:15:05.920 the game. So I'm gonna get them that after the 1:15:06.200 --> 1:15:08.040 after the game's arm and gonna pick them up. 1:15:10.320 --> 1:15:12.519 That's awesome. I came all this way to watch a 1:15:12.560 --> 1:15:15.200 game at Lambeau. I canna go to the hospital with 1:15:15.360 --> 1:15:18.439 my friend. He got the doctors there, he's fine. 1:15:18.680 --> 1:15:21.360 That's exactly what he said. And we just looked each 1:15:21.400 --> 1:15:22.400 other and laughed, you know. 1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:25.799 And and I'm a Bengals fans, but obviously my customer 1:15:25.880 --> 1:15:28.200 gave me the tickets and couldn't turn down the opportunity. 1:15:28.280 --> 1:15:31.360 But that's awesome. But glad to hear you're going. You're 1:15:31.400 --> 1:15:31.960 gonna love it. 1:15:32.040 --> 1:15:32.719 Great fans. 1:15:32.760 --> 1:15:34.920 They don't care if you're opposing team. They treat you 1:15:35.000 --> 1:15:39.640 with respect. There was three women, older women setting in 1:15:39.640 --> 1:15:42.640 front of us, and they would come out to the 1:15:42.720 --> 1:15:46.280 formation and these women were calling the plays and the 1:15:46.360 --> 1:15:50.360 formations those anybody. 1:15:49.880 --> 1:15:53.519 Else they know they're football man, Yeah, they sure do. 1:15:53.720 --> 1:15:55.680 But glad to hear your going. Hope you have a 1:15:55.680 --> 1:15:59.080 good time, Glenn, Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Yeah, 1:15:59.120 --> 1:16:02.360 I mean the Packers and like their season tickets is 1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:05.080 like legendary. I don't know if you know the story, 1:16:05.080 --> 1:16:08.360 but you know, people when their babies are born immediately 1:16:08.400 --> 1:16:11.680 put them on the Packers' season ticket waiting list. Has 1:16:11.720 --> 1:16:14.240 actually saw a tweet this morning from Darren Revel, the 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:17.080 sports business reporter used to be with ESPN. He's now 1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:21.360 with collect Media, and he said he started an experiment 1:16:21.479 --> 1:16:24.519 nineteen years ago, in two thousand and six, he put 1:16:24.560 --> 1:16:27.280 his name on the Packers season ticket waiting list just 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:30.600 to see how much his name moves. 1:16:30.760 --> 1:16:31.519 Over the years. 1:16:32.040 --> 1:16:33.840 So in two thousand and six when he put his 1:16:33.920 --> 1:16:36.680 name on the list, he was seventy three thousand, two 1:16:36.840 --> 1:16:41.160 hundred and fifty seventh, seventy three thousand, two hundred and 1:16:41.160 --> 1:16:46.280 fifty seventh. Nineteen years later he got his updated report. 1:16:46.360 --> 1:16:48.960 He gets one every year, but here nineteen years later, 1:16:49.000 --> 1:16:52.519 in twenty twenty five, he is at forty eight thousand, 1:16:52.920 --> 1:16:57.200 six hundred and sixty ninth. So he's moved up twenty 1:16:57.240 --> 1:17:01.880 five thousand spots in twenty years and is still forty 1:17:01.920 --> 1:17:05.960 eight thousand spots away for Packers to season tickets. That's unbelievable. 1:17:06.040 --> 1:17:08.240 Let's go to Doug in Cincinnati. What's up, Doug? 1:17:09.560 --> 1:17:12.760 In twenty years and it's still forty eight. 1:17:12.920 --> 1:17:16.519 Oh, Doug's gonna catch up in just a second. He's 1:17:16.560 --> 1:17:19.200 listening to me. Hey, Doug, what's up? 1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:21.559 Well? 1:17:22.000 --> 1:17:35.920 I was calling about sports, and I would like people 1:17:36.120 --> 1:17:46.120 to think that our sports are us running marathons, running or. 1:17:47.760 --> 1:17:48.360 Haddling. 1:17:49.600 --> 1:17:52.680 Sports are us. 1:17:52.800 --> 1:17:55.120 I like that, Doug, Thank you very much. Let's go 1:17:55.160 --> 1:17:57.559 to Jeff in Virginia. Jeff beat that. 1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:05.960 Jeff and Kenwood Rightwood. I went went over to Indian 1:18:06.040 --> 1:18:08.680 Hill to catch our stud quarterback and it's forty two 1:18:08.720 --> 1:18:10.960 to nothing at halftime. So I'm right down the street 1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:12.639 from you, getting ready to get some ice cream. 1:18:12.680 --> 1:18:14.800 Right here, you Gov, But. 1:18:16.400 --> 1:18:19.280 Much like yourself, I'm going to Lambeau next Sunday. I've 1:18:19.280 --> 1:18:24.719 never been. I'm really blessed. My list is so short. 1:18:25.720 --> 1:18:30.479 I've been to World Series, SEC Championship games, Stanley Cup, 1:18:30.600 --> 1:18:37.800 Super Bowls. Yeah, when the Caps made that run in 1:18:37.960 --> 1:18:41.599 twenty nineteen, I got to go to one of those 1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:44.639 games between the Reds and the Nats. With the World Series. 1:18:44.680 --> 1:18:47.600 I've been really, really blessed. But next year I just 1:18:47.640 --> 1:18:49.840 found out last month I won the lottery for the 1:18:49.840 --> 1:18:55.120 British Open and I was looking at the calendar. I'm 1:18:55.160 --> 1:18:58.920 going to try to pull off the trifecta of Wimbledon 1:19:00.160 --> 1:19:03.360 F one race and the British Open if possible. 1:19:05.960 --> 1:19:07.959 That's like a sneaky good one would be Wimbledon. 1:19:09.840 --> 1:19:12.200 Yeah, any F one race is probably the top of 1:19:12.240 --> 1:19:14.200 my list right now, but none of none of the 1:19:14.200 --> 1:19:16.519 ones they're in the US. I want to go to 1:19:16.520 --> 1:19:18.880 one of the ones in Europe. But if I can 1:19:18.920 --> 1:19:22.360 squeeze that out in three weeks and maybe even jump 1:19:22.400 --> 1:19:24.719 over and catch the Tour de France for one day, 1:19:26.240 --> 1:19:28.400 that would be about as good as it gets, I think. 1:19:28.479 --> 1:19:29.200 Yeah, I don't know that. 1:19:33.200 --> 1:19:33.479 Well. 1:19:33.520 --> 1:19:36.240 And plus, while I'm the two days I'm at the 1:19:36.280 --> 1:19:39.800 British Open are the semifinals of the World Cup, and 1:19:39.960 --> 1:19:43.320 heaven forbid, England is in the semifinals. 1:19:42.400 --> 1:19:43.280 Of the World Cup. 1:19:44.200 --> 1:19:47.280 It'll it'll make the Ryder Cup last weekend look like 1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:50.120 a little baby's crib if England's in the in the 1:19:50.200 --> 1:19:50.760 Ryder Cup. 1:19:50.960 --> 1:19:53.519 Yes, yeah, that's that's awesome. 1:19:53.800 --> 1:19:57.439 Great topic. Yeah, great topic. Thanks for hosting Austin. 1:19:57.520 --> 1:19:59.840 Yeah, Jeff, thanks for calling in. I appreciate that and I. 1:20:00.040 --> 1:20:02.120 I'm sure we'll see each other in Green Bay. Yeah, 1:20:02.120 --> 1:20:04.360 I mean, I mean that that's hard to beat. I 1:20:04.720 --> 1:20:08.519 have one of our co workers got to golf at 1:20:08.640 --> 1:20:13.200 Royal Liverpool, which I mean, that's pretty tough to be. 1:20:13.400 --> 1:20:17.120 That's another on my list, yeah, is to play the 1:20:17.160 --> 1:20:21.680 old course Saint Andrews. Yes, which is which is attainable. 1:20:21.800 --> 1:20:24.560 That is That's what I was thinking, that that is attainable. 1:20:24.600 --> 1:20:26.439 So that in terms of you know, Doug was talking 1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:29.640 about like sports that we actually do. I have a 1:20:29.680 --> 1:20:31.800 long list of golf courses that I would love I 1:20:31.800 --> 1:20:32.719 would love to play. 1:20:32.800 --> 1:20:33.040 Now. 1:20:33.200 --> 1:20:35.479 I was just thinking, I'm going to play Augusta the 1:20:35.520 --> 1:20:38.080 seventh at Pebble Beach and yeah, like Pebble Beach would 1:20:38.120 --> 1:20:38.800 be on that list. 1:20:38.840 --> 1:20:39.320 Probably. 1:20:39.360 --> 1:20:41.880 There's there's a ton of golf courses that I would 1:20:41.920 --> 1:20:43.639 love to play throughout the world. 1:20:43.920 --> 1:20:47.400 You know, our guy Bill Cunningham, Willie, he had an 1:20:47.439 --> 1:20:52.200 opportunity to play Augusta National and he turned it down 1:20:53.439 --> 1:20:55.599 to interview a political leader. 1:20:57.479 --> 1:20:59.320 Well, the next time I see Willie, I might just 1:20:59.360 --> 1:21:01.240 smack him up. That's what I told him. I said, 1:21:01.240 --> 1:21:03.600 I've lost all respect for you. I won't name the 1:21:03.600 --> 1:21:05.760 political leader that he interviewed. I don't want to call it. 1:21:06.080 --> 1:21:08.160 That's not that this isn't that type of show. But 1:21:09.280 --> 1:21:12.599 he had been waiting for years, and he the way 1:21:12.640 --> 1:21:15.640 he told the story to me at least, was the 1:21:16.040 --> 1:21:20.559 person that his contact at Augusta had called him and said, 1:21:21.600 --> 1:21:24.639 we can get you on. You fly down tomorrow morning 1:21:25.439 --> 1:21:29.120 at you know, seven am. We get there, you golf, 1:21:29.320 --> 1:21:31.679 you fly back, you're back home at eight, eight o'clock 1:21:31.720 --> 1:21:34.920 at night. It was a The whole thing was a 1:21:34.960 --> 1:21:39.519 thirteen hour ordeal. And he's had to say no, I mean, 1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:41.320 that's incredible. Can't believe. 1:21:41.800 --> 1:21:43.800 Let's go to Mount Orab and talk to Mike. Mike, 1:21:43.840 --> 1:21:45.280 what's on your sports bucket list? 1:21:46.000 --> 1:21:47.960 Hey, Austin, thanks taking my call. 1:21:48.040 --> 1:21:50.479 I was a friend of mine. 1:21:51.520 --> 1:21:54.560 He went to every single major league park. 1:21:54.520 --> 1:21:58.040 In the United States, and him and his son did 1:21:58.800 --> 1:22:01.800 And I'm telling you what, father and son to take 1:22:01.880 --> 1:22:03.240 trips like that. 1:22:02.880 --> 1:22:04.040 That's just awesome. 1:22:04.280 --> 1:22:05.799 That would be that would be great. 1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:07.120 That is really cool. 1:22:07.160 --> 1:22:10.240 I've I've met a lot of people because I go 1:22:10.280 --> 1:22:12.160 to a lot of baseball games. I went to to 1:22:12.920 --> 1:22:15.120 twenty five Reds games this year, and I saw him 1:22:15.120 --> 1:22:16.720 on the road a few times. And I went to 1:22:16.720 --> 1:22:19.920 the Bristol Debacle and all that, and there are so 1:22:20.040 --> 1:22:22.120 many people that they they set out to do that 1:22:22.240 --> 1:22:24.760 over the course of a single summer, and that just 1:22:24.800 --> 1:22:26.680 sounds like so much fun to me to go to 1:22:26.720 --> 1:22:27.519 all those balls. 1:22:27.600 --> 1:22:29.880 Yeah, yeah, that would be great. 1:22:30.880 --> 1:22:33.000 Do you do you have a favorite ballpark, Mike. 1:22:34.320 --> 1:22:38.360 I'd like to see Fenway, be honest, Yeah, that would 1:22:38.360 --> 1:22:40.120 be That would be a good one. Yeah. 1:22:40.160 --> 1:22:41.640 I'm right there with you, Mike. Thank you for the 1:22:41.640 --> 1:22:42.080 phone call. 1:22:42.800 --> 1:22:43.800 All right, thanks luck guy. 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:45.000 That's good stuff there. 1:22:45.040 --> 1:22:48.080 I mean the ballparks that I would most want to 1:22:48.120 --> 1:22:52.599 go to, not besides Fenway Park, Oracle Park in San 1:22:52.600 --> 1:22:55.559 Francisco looks really cool. That looks like one of those 1:22:55.600 --> 1:23:01.200 picturesque different level of ballparks. Yankee Stadium doesn't have the 1:23:01.240 --> 1:23:03.800 same allure that the old Yankee Stadium had to me 1:23:04.640 --> 1:23:07.360 the new one. And I know people that have been 1:23:07.360 --> 1:23:10.799 to that stadium and they say it's fine, it's nothing special. 1:23:12.040 --> 1:23:16.200 But yeah, talking sports bucket lists right here on Sports 1:23:16.240 --> 1:23:20.080 Talk seven hundred WLW. Got a little bit of time 1:23:20.360 --> 1:23:22.479 before the news, and it would behoove me not to 1:23:22.520 --> 1:23:25.160 be late again. I don't want to upset Jack Crumley. 1:23:25.200 --> 1:23:27.960 I'm Austin Omore. This is Sports Talk. We're off the 1:23:27.960 --> 1:23:31.280 beaten path on a Friday night talking about sports bucket lists. 1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:34.000 Because I'm going to lambeau Field next week. We'll continue 1:23:34.040 --> 1:23:36.040 the conversation half the news. We do have a minute 1:23:36.120 --> 1:23:39.639 or so here to talk to Dick in Dayton. Hello, Richard, 1:23:39.680 --> 1:23:40.160 what's up? 1:23:40.840 --> 1:23:44.120 Hello Austin, How are you, buddy? 1:23:44.360 --> 1:23:46.479 I'm wonderful man. What's going on? What are you up 1:23:46.479 --> 1:23:46.960 to tonight? 1:23:47.880 --> 1:23:48.120 Well? 1:23:48.240 --> 1:23:51.759 Nothing, I'm just watching TV. But was telling your screener. 1:23:53.000 --> 1:23:55.280 I think the bucket list I would want to do 1:23:55.400 --> 1:23:58.000 is I have much music and my friends. I would 1:23:58.080 --> 1:24:01.439 love to go to Nashville, Oh, perform down there, maybe 1:24:01.479 --> 1:24:04.600 as a group, you know, maybe go to the Kentucky 1:24:04.640 --> 1:24:05.880 Bluegrass Festival. 1:24:06.080 --> 1:24:08.880 Okay, but what about like like what about like the 1:24:08.920 --> 1:24:09.879 Grand Old Opry. 1:24:09.920 --> 1:24:10.760 That'd be kind of cool. 1:24:11.200 --> 1:24:16.200 Oh yeah yeah, woa yeah yeah. But another thing too, 1:24:16.280 --> 1:24:19.360 I was honored that I got to meet with Dave. 1:24:20.280 --> 1:24:22.720 I think that was one of the best things the 1:24:22.800 --> 1:24:26.560 iHeartRadio in Cincinnati to meet you guys there. 1:24:26.320 --> 1:24:28.000 You know, like, yeah, that was that was one of 1:24:28.040 --> 1:24:29.880 your bucket lists. You got to come down here and 1:24:29.920 --> 1:24:30.840 meet all of us and. 1:24:30.760 --> 1:24:34.040 Hang out for a couple of guys. 1:24:34.400 --> 1:24:37.719 Yeah, yeah, I haven't talked to Dave, but I thought 1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:40.160 that would be and then, uh, you know, in my 1:24:40.280 --> 1:24:43.080 musical career, I'm making a lot of friends. But I'd 1:24:43.120 --> 1:24:44.760 say that's a pretty good bucket list. 1:24:44.920 --> 1:24:46.080 That's a that's a great one. 1:24:46.120 --> 1:24:46.320 Dick. 1:24:46.360 --> 1:24:49.920 Thanks for the call, buddy. Okay, Yeah, you know, Dick 1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:52.599 is a huge fan of us and listens to us 1:24:52.640 --> 1:24:54.160 all the time, so it was a pleasure to meet 1:24:54.240 --> 1:24:56.840 him a couple of months back. We'll take a break, 1:24:56.840 --> 1:24:59.240 we'll continue. I just thought of two more for my 1:24:59.320 --> 1:25:02.080 bucket list. Michael is in Lynchburg. We'll talk to him 1:25:02.160 --> 1:25:05.240 as well. This is Sports Talk on a Friday night, 1:25:05.360 --> 1:25:07.160 seven hundred WLW. 1:25:07.400 --> 1:25:08.840 You're WLW high. 1:25:08.880 --> 1:25:12.479 I'm Austin Elmore with you for the next twenty minutes 1:25:12.680 --> 1:25:16.080 in for Lance McAllister coming up after the nine o'clock news. 1:25:16.120 --> 1:25:19.160 That'll be our friend Sterling. Sterling will take you up 1:25:19.240 --> 1:25:22.600 to midnight tonight here on the big one off the 1:25:22.640 --> 1:25:25.760 beaten Path. We're talking sports bucket lists in honor of 1:25:25.800 --> 1:25:28.439 my trip to lambeau Field next week to watch the 1:25:28.439 --> 1:25:31.519 Bengals and the Packers. And although I don't have high 1:25:31.520 --> 1:25:35.600 expectations for the Bengals. I do have high expectations for 1:25:35.720 --> 1:25:38.960 lambeau Field and crossing that off my bucket list. I 1:25:39.040 --> 1:25:42.880 was thinking of another one too, the Rose Bowl. The 1:25:42.960 --> 1:25:46.360 Rose Bowl would just be chef's kiss for me. Don't 1:25:46.360 --> 1:25:48.840 even care whose plan doesn't have to be my Ohio 1:25:49.000 --> 1:25:54.479 State Buckeyes that setting Pasadena, California, January first, to go 1:25:54.520 --> 1:25:58.479 to the Rose Parade, the whole experience. How awesome would 1:25:58.520 --> 1:26:00.400 that be? To go to the the big stealth bomber 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:03.400 that flies over, that would be so sick. Let's go 1:26:03.439 --> 1:26:06.400 to Lynchburg. Let's talk to Michael, find out what's on 1:26:06.439 --> 1:26:07.559 his sports bucket list. 1:26:07.560 --> 1:26:10.920 What's up, Michael, Hey, Als, how you doing tonight? 1:26:11.040 --> 1:26:12.000 I'm wonderful man. 1:26:13.280 --> 1:26:16.519 So I have been to two of my bucket lists. 1:26:16.560 --> 1:26:19.120 I have been to Cubs and Reds game at Wrigley 1:26:19.160 --> 1:26:21.920 Field and we sat out on the bleachers. It was 1:26:22.120 --> 1:26:26.760 so much fun, got very fun. 1:26:26.920 --> 1:26:29.920 Those people in the bleachers are crazy at Wrigley Field. 1:26:30.560 --> 1:26:33.479 Yes, yes there. But I've also been to a Nordre 1:26:33.520 --> 1:26:39.320 Dame game twice at Norda me chills man. And my 1:26:39.479 --> 1:26:41.559 next one I want to do. I want to go 1:26:41.600 --> 1:26:42.440 to WrestleMania. 1:26:43.200 --> 1:26:45.479 Oh, okay, that's a I kind of forgot about that. 1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:49.320 I was in Phoenix one year when WrestleMania was at 1:26:49.760 --> 1:26:53.040 State Farm Stadium there in Glendale. I did not go 1:26:53.120 --> 1:26:56.200 to the event, but the setup for it was insane. 1:26:56.280 --> 1:26:58.960 I'd never seen anything like that. That's a good one. 1:26:59.000 --> 1:27:01.759 That may reminds me two of the Western the Waste 1:27:01.760 --> 1:27:04.240 Management open out there in Phoenix, which is a crazy 1:27:04.280 --> 1:27:08.040 golf turned especially that was it the sixteenth hole or 1:27:08.040 --> 1:27:11.000 whatever that is. That's awesome though, I mean Notre Dame, 1:27:11.320 --> 1:27:12.479 so like, who did they play? 1:27:14.200 --> 1:27:17.160 The first game I went to, they played in Massachusetts, 1:27:17.240 --> 1:27:20.120 and then the second one I went to, they played 1:27:20.160 --> 1:27:21.400 the Miami Hurricane. 1:27:21.520 --> 1:27:22.840 Okay, that's pretty cool. 1:27:22.920 --> 1:27:26.040 My brother, my brother is a Hurricane sand and I 1:27:26.080 --> 1:27:28.639 got thrubbing in a safe that Dame won that game. 1:27:28.720 --> 1:27:31.439 So a little bit of trash talk that that's off. 1:27:31.479 --> 1:27:34.439 That's a great one, Michael, thanks for calling man, Thank you. 1:27:34.640 --> 1:27:34.840 Yeah. 1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:39.719 Notre Dame legendary stadium. I mean I don't I don't 1:27:39.720 --> 1:27:42.080 have like any real connection to Notre Dame or like, 1:27:42.360 --> 1:27:44.960 but that is that. That's I think in the same 1:27:45.040 --> 1:27:48.160 vein as lambeau Field in the sense of like just 1:27:48.200 --> 1:27:52.080 a historic venue for what it means to college football 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:53.880 and the history of college football. I feel that way 1:27:53.880 --> 1:27:56.559 a little bit about Ohio Stadium as well. If you've 1:27:56.600 --> 1:27:59.640 never been inside Ohio Stadium, you should go. Even if 1:27:59.640 --> 1:28:01.160 you hate Ohio State, and I know a lot of 1:28:01.160 --> 1:28:09.000 people here do, but just the enormity of Ohio Stadium 1:28:09.080 --> 1:28:11.720 and how big it feels when one hundred thousand are 1:28:11.720 --> 1:28:14.320 all cheering is hard to beat. And I'm sure Notre 1:28:14.439 --> 1:28:17.400 Dame is very similar. Drew, you said you had another 1:28:17.400 --> 1:28:18.800 one that you got to experience. 1:28:19.000 --> 1:28:23.000 Yes, the Lahina Civic Center in Maui for the Maui Invitational. 1:28:23.080 --> 1:28:23.800 That's a good one. 1:28:23.880 --> 1:28:27.960 College basketball enters the Fray the Maui Invitational, Yes, the 1:28:28.080 --> 1:28:30.000 first tournament of the year basically right. 1:28:29.920 --> 1:28:33.320 Pretty much, Yes, so you always know it's over Thanksgiving week. 1:28:33.720 --> 1:28:36.080 I've been lucky to lucky enough to go out there twice. 1:28:36.200 --> 1:28:38.720 I went in twenty nineteen oh when Dayton had that 1:28:39.120 --> 1:28:42.080 very very good team. They played Kansas in the final, 1:28:42.439 --> 1:28:44.639 who was also I believe they were the number three 1:28:44.720 --> 1:28:47.200 ranked team at the time. So you basically saw a 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:51.519 final four game and what is essentially high school gym 1:28:51.920 --> 1:28:54.080 that's crazy. It is because there was no Final four 1:28:54.080 --> 1:28:56.240 that year. That's right, correct, that that was the COVID year. 1:28:56.439 --> 1:29:00.280 And that game was just it was so loud. The 1:29:01.800 --> 1:29:05.960 sound was just reverberating everywhere around you. You know you're 1:29:06.080 --> 1:29:09.000 sitting it literally is because like one side of the 1:29:09.040 --> 1:29:11.559 arena was Dayton fans and then the other side of 1:29:11.600 --> 1:29:15.720 the arena were Kansas fans. A high schools, yeah, like 1:29:15.760 --> 1:29:18.240 a true high school game, but it was two high 1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:21.280 level college basketball teams playing against each other. And then 1:29:21.320 --> 1:29:26.880 I also crossed off playing the Plantation Course in Conna Pauli, 1:29:27.479 --> 1:29:31.439 which is where the kapelou excuse me, which is where 1:29:31.479 --> 1:29:35.719 the PGA Tournament of Champions is always held in January. 1:29:35.720 --> 1:29:38.600 So I got to play that this past event that 1:29:38.680 --> 1:29:40.720 is in Maui. Yes, so I got to do that 1:29:40.800 --> 1:29:41.679 this past time. 1:29:41.960 --> 1:29:44.599 This do you have a home there all the time? 1:29:45.080 --> 1:29:46.639 Twice in six years. 1:29:46.680 --> 1:29:49.919 And my dad, who was a University of Dayton graduate, 1:29:51.160 --> 1:29:53.160 you know, he's he's sixty five years old. We went 1:29:53.160 --> 1:29:57.000 out in twenty nineteen and he told us he goes, well, guys, 1:29:57.439 --> 1:29:59.800 whenever Dayton's out here, I'm coming out here, told dead. 1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:01.880 So if you guys want to come. You let me know. 1:30:02.160 --> 1:30:04.920 That's a good move right there. So that's yes, that's 1:30:04.920 --> 1:30:06.000 the couple that I've gotten across. 1:30:06.200 --> 1:30:08.880 Yeah, Mauley is in and of itself a bucket list 1:30:08.920 --> 1:30:11.639 I'm sure for a lot of people. And yeah, college basketball. 1:30:11.920 --> 1:30:14.400 I've been to some First four games in Dayton, so 1:30:14.479 --> 1:30:16.800 I guess the NCAA Tournament you can cross that off. 1:30:16.840 --> 1:30:19.679 I know it's not the exact same environment, the exact 1:30:19.720 --> 1:30:21.920 same thing you're looking for. It did make me think, though, 1:30:22.080 --> 1:30:26.120 a Duke North Carolina game at Cameron Indoor in that 1:30:26.200 --> 1:30:29.759 stadium would be pretty cool because that's another really intimate, 1:30:29.920 --> 1:30:35.800 really small venue that is a huge part of college basketball. 1:30:35.840 --> 1:30:38.280 So that's one that comes from I'm trying to think, 1:30:38.280 --> 1:30:42.360 like a an NBA Finals game. It obviously depends on 1:30:42.400 --> 1:30:45.880 the team and the player, whether that be like a 1:30:45.920 --> 1:30:48.000 Michael like a Lebron James. 1:30:48.240 --> 1:30:49.639 I guess that would be kind of cool. 1:30:49.760 --> 1:30:53.160 I have been to Cameron Indoor, yes, when I was 1:30:53.240 --> 1:30:55.360 very young. I was I think I was six or 1:30:55.400 --> 1:30:58.760 seven years old. Maybe Dayton played there. I believe it's 1:30:58.760 --> 1:31:00.680 two thousand and three. If you can't well, if you 1:31:00.720 --> 1:31:02.439 can't tell, Drew is a big Daton fan. 1:31:02.520 --> 1:31:02.960 That's true. 1:31:03.800 --> 1:31:07.679 I believe that was like the Reddick team, like JJ, 1:31:08.800 --> 1:31:11.680 like that team was really really good. We went to 1:31:12.640 --> 1:31:14.280 so we went to that game. We got to see 1:31:14.280 --> 1:31:17.240 a game there. Awesome place. Like you know, it's kind 1:31:17.240 --> 1:31:20.519 of the same principles as you have put at Ohio Stadium, 1:31:20.840 --> 1:31:23.519 but different because of how small it is. Sure like 1:31:23.560 --> 1:31:26.080 Cameron Indoor is a is a small gym, but it's 1:31:26.439 --> 1:31:28.160 you know, the history. You walk into it, you can 1:31:28.360 --> 1:31:30.400 you know, you just see, Yeah, you look out on 1:31:30.400 --> 1:31:32.240 the court and you just think about all the moments 1:31:32.240 --> 1:31:34.280 that have happened on that on that floor. 1:31:34.360 --> 1:31:36.360 Yeah, that's a that's cool. That's a really good one. 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:39.639 Let's go back to the phones five one, three, seven, nine, 1:31:39.680 --> 1:31:43.400 seven thousand sports bucket lists on this off the beaten 1:31:43.439 --> 1:31:45.760 path on a Friday night. Let's go to Franklin and 1:31:45.800 --> 1:31:47.599 talk to Wayne. Wayne, what's up? 1:31:49.000 --> 1:31:51.280 Hey, I got two that I got to cross off 1:31:51.320 --> 1:31:55.320 my list, all right, hit me one with the Kentucky Derby, 1:31:55.479 --> 1:31:59.360 Oh great one. Yeah, and the other one was the 1:31:59.400 --> 1:32:00.799 Indianapoli Spike hundred. 1:32:01.280 --> 1:32:02.680 Yes, that's another good one. 1:32:02.720 --> 1:32:04.800 Now, did you go to the infield at the NDY 1:32:04.800 --> 1:32:07.479 five hundred because I've heard that place and of itself 1:32:07.640 --> 1:32:10.400 is is it just a ridiculous experience? 1:32:11.200 --> 1:32:12.919 It's a zoom that's the only. 1:32:12.760 --> 1:32:13.960 Thing you can say. 1:32:14.800 --> 1:32:16.960 It's not for a children under eighteen. 1:32:18.080 --> 1:32:20.600 So what was like take me through the Kentucky Derby, Like, 1:32:20.640 --> 1:32:21.200 what was that? 1:32:21.360 --> 1:32:21.439 Like? 1:32:21.479 --> 1:32:22.439 What was your favorite part? 1:32:24.320 --> 1:32:24.479 Uh? 1:32:25.240 --> 1:32:31.200 Probably about an hour before it's post time, seeing all that, 1:32:32.200 --> 1:32:35.200 how people dress. You have a women in their hat, 1:32:36.439 --> 1:32:38.840 a drinking of the mint ju look, which I didn't try. 1:32:39.600 --> 1:32:43.360 I stuck with bourbon. It was just the whole abbiance 1:32:43.479 --> 1:32:43.680 of it. 1:32:43.840 --> 1:32:46.200 Yeah, kind of like the the experience of just like 1:32:46.760 --> 1:32:50.240 participating in this thing with everyone. 1:32:50.360 --> 1:32:52.679 Yeah, all right, well great show, buddy. 1:32:52.720 --> 1:32:54.640 Yeah, Wayne, thank you, I appreciate. That's a good one. 1:32:54.680 --> 1:32:57.120 I had written down Kentucky Derby. I hadn't talked about 1:32:57.120 --> 1:33:00.719 it yet. I've never been to like a legit horse race. 1:33:00.760 --> 1:33:04.280 I've been to like some of the smaller ones, and 1:33:04.520 --> 1:33:07.160 admittedly I don't know very much about horse racing or 1:33:07.600 --> 1:33:10.639 gambling or anything when it comes to that sense. But yeah, 1:33:10.720 --> 1:33:15.639 Kentucky Derby, I mean the just the image of the building, 1:33:15.760 --> 1:33:17.200 I guess is the best way to say it. The 1:33:17.600 --> 1:33:19.439 I don't know if it's a clubhouse or this this 1:33:20.000 --> 1:33:22.519 what am I thinking of the stables? That's what I'm 1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:25.440 trying to say, the stables. Let's go to John and Cincinnati. 1:33:25.479 --> 1:33:26.120 What's up, John? 1:33:27.720 --> 1:33:29.000 I have an unusual one. 1:33:29.080 --> 1:33:32.160 My daughter made it to the American Ninja Warrior, and 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:35.000 I'd like to see her real show. 1:33:35.840 --> 1:33:36.040 Yeah. 1:33:36.120 --> 1:33:39.559 She beat out a lady that actually was on this show, 1:33:39.600 --> 1:33:42.640 which I think was cool. Yeah, and then when she 1:33:42.880 --> 1:33:46.679 was offered to go up there, she couldn't. She says 1:33:46.720 --> 1:33:49.200 she's going to try again. She couldn't because she had 1:33:49.240 --> 1:33:54.160 an important exam. Oh my god, damn, this exam couldn't 1:33:54.240 --> 1:33:57.000 can be repeated, Right, you didn't take you can say 1:33:57.200 --> 1:33:58.599 that day she would have been out. 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:03.160 Wow, that's it's a poll bolter. 1:34:03.479 --> 1:34:08.880 So certain mountain climbers I think make make good and 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:13.000 poll all kinds of Yeah, different sports people make it 1:34:13.000 --> 1:34:13.559 to the show. 1:34:13.720 --> 1:34:16.120 Yeah, that's fascinating, John, thank you for the call. That's 1:34:16.160 --> 1:34:19.200 a really good one. I hadn't thought about that, like, uh, 1:34:19.280 --> 1:34:22.599 the I mean just the sheer strength, that's that. That 1:34:22.640 --> 1:34:25.599 sort of stuff takes. Which he talked about pole vaulting 1:34:25.640 --> 1:34:28.559 and kind of those other different Olympic style sports, which 1:34:28.600 --> 1:34:31.200 brings up the Olympics. How could you not want to 1:34:31.240 --> 1:34:34.679 go to the Olympics, Like specifically Olympic swimming. I think 1:34:34.720 --> 1:34:37.599 would be really cool. To watch track and field I'm 1:34:37.720 --> 1:34:39.760 enamored with. I love to watch track and field when 1:34:39.800 --> 1:34:44.320 that's in season. Some of the other like Olympic sports 1:34:44.360 --> 1:34:45.760 like speed. 1:34:45.479 --> 1:34:46.880 Skating, I think would be cool. 1:34:46.920 --> 1:34:48.640 I might just be nerding out on that one, but 1:34:48.720 --> 1:34:53.000 speed skating or a hockey Olympic hockey, just especially after 1:34:53.040 --> 1:34:55.120 what we saw with the four nations face off last year, 1:34:55.160 --> 1:34:57.320 that would be kind of cool. All right, now we're 1:34:57.320 --> 1:35:00.240 getting into it. Let's go to Brooksville, Kentucky and talk 1:35:00.320 --> 1:35:00.719 to Matt. 1:35:00.720 --> 1:35:03.679 What's up, Matt, Hey, how are you doing. 1:35:03.840 --> 1:35:05.240 I'm wonderful. What's on your mind? 1:35:06.520 --> 1:35:06.720 Well? 1:35:07.000 --> 1:35:10.320 I have two off my bucket list and I've got 1:35:10.360 --> 1:35:12.439 one that I can just say I did. 1:35:12.320 --> 1:35:13.760 It, Okay, hit me. 1:35:13.880 --> 1:35:17.400 The two bucket lists was the Kentucky Derby. It was 1:35:17.439 --> 1:35:20.680 the year that affirmed one the triple crown and him 1:35:20.720 --> 1:35:23.719 and aladar Ran, Neck and net Man. They're all three races. 1:35:23.840 --> 1:35:25.320 That's cool, that's really cool. 1:35:26.800 --> 1:35:31.479 The other was Municipal Stadium in Cleveland. It wasn't for 1:35:31.520 --> 1:35:33.960 a sporting event. I got to see the rolling Stones 1:35:34.120 --> 1:35:34.680 council pair. 1:35:35.280 --> 1:35:37.080 That's awesome, that's really cool. 1:35:38.000 --> 1:35:41.640 Yeah, and then the one, the one a couple of 1:35:42.120 --> 1:35:45.640 the Municipal stadium, it's not there. The third one is 1:35:45.800 --> 1:35:48.160 just to say I did it. I've been there many times. 1:35:48.200 --> 1:35:52.160 I thought the place was pasted. Cincinnati Gardens. 1:35:53.080 --> 1:35:55.400 Yeah, you know, I got to go to sin Cincinnati 1:35:55.400 --> 1:35:58.679 Gardens once and I think it was for like a 1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:04.320 Cincinnati Jungle Cats game, like Arena football. But I thought 1:36:04.320 --> 1:36:05.840 it was a really cool place. It was kind of 1:36:05.880 --> 1:36:11.600 old obviously at that point, but yeah, that's a good. 1:36:10.600 --> 1:36:15.240 But I was there to see hockey games, saw to 1:36:15.479 --> 1:36:19.320 Xavier basketball games there, saw the Shrine circus there two 1:36:19.400 --> 1:36:22.840 or three times, and I just love the place. 1:36:23.040 --> 1:36:24.040 Yeah, that's cool. 1:36:24.080 --> 1:36:27.160 There's there's a lot of people in matt thank you 1:36:27.200 --> 1:36:29.559 for the phone call that I've heard over the years 1:36:29.600 --> 1:36:33.240 that have spoken glowingly at their memories of the Cincinnati Gardens, 1:36:34.000 --> 1:36:36.200 especially back when the Royals were there way back in 1:36:36.240 --> 1:36:38.760 the day in the NBA, which it kind of makes 1:36:38.800 --> 1:36:41.880 me think now he mentioned Xavier basketball. I have lived 1:36:41.920 --> 1:36:45.439 in this city and been in this business for nearly 1:36:45.520 --> 1:36:49.080 ten years now. I have not been to a crosstown 1:36:49.120 --> 1:36:54.200 shootout between Xavier and Cincinnati, and obviously that they're they're 1:36:54.200 --> 1:36:56.959 back and have been for a while now on campus 1:36:57.000 --> 1:37:00.120 for each that would be really cool. That would be 1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:03.240 cool to see, just because I get to experience it 1:37:03.360 --> 1:37:08.280 every day, the true dislike for one another between Xavior 1:37:08.320 --> 1:37:10.800 and Cincinnati. That would be cool to see. Let's go 1:37:10.840 --> 1:37:14.320 out to Batavia, Batavia and talk to Joe. What's up, Joe? 1:37:15.400 --> 1:37:16.280 Hey, how are we doing? 1:37:16.439 --> 1:37:17.200 I'm great man. 1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:21.479 Uh So I want to set this up. So me 1:37:21.560 --> 1:37:22.000 and my. 1:37:21.880 --> 1:37:26.639 Brother, well half brother whatever, grew up, whatever got tickets, 1:37:26.720 --> 1:37:29.240 got tickets to that. I think it was the Bengals 1:37:29.240 --> 1:37:31.400 and Cardinals maybe. 1:37:31.640 --> 1:37:33.760 But we went to the game. 1:37:33.560 --> 1:37:35.440 Where Jerome Simpson did the summersault. 1:37:35.760 --> 1:37:40.439 Yes, yes, I was there. Me and my brother were there. 1:37:40.560 --> 1:37:42.320 We were at the opposite end zone. 1:37:43.000 --> 1:37:45.200 All I saw were his feet in the air, I 1:37:46.000 --> 1:37:47.519 over the heads of everybody else. 1:37:47.400 --> 1:37:48.160 Where we were sitting. 1:37:48.640 --> 1:37:50.920 We had to look up at the jumbo tron and 1:37:50.960 --> 1:37:53.360 we saw him do the summersault and it was insane. 1:37:53.439 --> 1:37:55.840 Me and my brother we high five, We hugged like 1:37:55.920 --> 1:37:59.760 we we made up for all our past transgressions. 1:38:01.479 --> 1:38:04.160 That was That was Christmas Eve. If I'm not mistaken 1:38:05.320 --> 1:38:05.519 it was. 1:38:05.760 --> 1:38:07.160 It was, Yeah, it was. 1:38:07.400 --> 1:38:08.120 It was awesome. 1:38:08.360 --> 1:38:12.720 Yeah, that's a great, Thanks Joe, that's a great that's 1:38:12.920 --> 1:38:15.519 a sports moment there. I was at that game as well, 1:38:16.280 --> 1:38:18.720 and it was a Christmas Eve game. I want to 1:38:18.760 --> 1:38:23.160 say this was twenty eleven. I think it was Andy 1:38:23.240 --> 1:38:27.640 Dalton's rookie year that Jerome Simpson gets the ball in 1:38:27.680 --> 1:38:31.040 this crosser route, gets a block, is running to the 1:38:31.120 --> 1:38:33.280 end zone and just flips over a guy. If you're 1:38:33.280 --> 1:38:36.000 a Cincinnati sports fan, you've seen the clip a thousand times. 1:38:36.760 --> 1:38:37.559 I was lucky. 1:38:38.000 --> 1:38:40.880 We were six rows up in that corner of the 1:38:41.000 --> 1:38:44.240 end zone, so I saw it, like with the naked 1:38:44.280 --> 1:38:47.080 eye right in front of me, clear as day, and 1:38:47.280 --> 1:38:51.720 could not believe what I had just seen. I mean, 1:38:51.720 --> 1:38:53.920 that was That was one of those moments where you're like, 1:38:53.960 --> 1:38:57.439 what the heck is happening. Another one that comes to 1:38:57.479 --> 1:39:00.360 mind when you think of a moment was the two 1:39:00.360 --> 1:39:05.000 thousand and nine Bengals opener against the Denver Broncos. The 1:39:05.040 --> 1:39:09.800 Bengals had been awful on offense all day long, and 1:39:09.920 --> 1:39:13.680 Cedric Benson scores a touchdown with twelve seconds left. I 1:39:13.720 --> 1:39:15.599 want to say, or it might have been like thirty 1:39:15.680 --> 1:39:20.360 thirty five seconds left and Denver with I believe Kyle 1:39:20.520 --> 1:39:24.120 Orton as their quarterback throws one up. It's tipped by 1:39:24.200 --> 1:39:28.519 Leon Hall, caught by Brandon Stokely, taken to the house. 1:39:28.600 --> 1:39:32.320 Gus Johnson loses his marbles in the broadcast booth and 1:39:32.560 --> 1:39:35.559 Cincinnati loses the opener. I think the final score was 1:39:35.600 --> 1:39:39.040 twelve to seven. You want to talk about some heartbreak 1:39:39.120 --> 1:39:41.439 right there for a young man like me, Let's go 1:39:41.479 --> 1:39:42.479 to Pat in Dayton. 1:39:42.600 --> 1:39:44.280 We you got Pat. 1:39:44.600 --> 1:39:48.760 Hey, what's up man? I was just about fifteen years ago. 1:39:48.800 --> 1:39:53.759 I went to a sugar Shane Moseley ooh, and caught 1:39:54.080 --> 1:39:56.760 for guests boxing match in Vegas. 1:39:57.080 --> 1:39:57.320 Huh. 1:39:57.360 --> 1:40:00.160 And you want to talk about saying, where you're in 1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:02.640 a stadium and you've never seen a place like that 1:40:02.760 --> 1:40:05.000 in arena and the way the punch is hitt, I 1:40:05.040 --> 1:40:08.599 mean you can hear them from everywhere in that place. 1:40:09.080 --> 1:40:12.360 And the other thing, it's a smaller arena and you 1:40:12.520 --> 1:40:17.040 brush shoulders with I mean, my nephew was like twelve 1:40:17.120 --> 1:40:20.920 at the time and he got pictures with the vander Holyfield, 1:40:21.120 --> 1:40:25.280 Rashid Wallace. Oh my god, he had no clue who 1:40:25.320 --> 1:40:26.559 these people were, but I'm. 1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:27.719 Like, man, get a picture. 1:40:27.960 --> 1:40:30.280 I'm like a picture that's Vander Holyfield, Like look. 1:40:30.160 --> 1:40:30.639 At his ear. 1:40:30.880 --> 1:40:37.559 Oh, Christian Slater and you know all these celebrities that 1:40:37.600 --> 1:40:42.080 you're just walking by you. It was blew me away. 1:40:42.360 --> 1:40:45.320 Yeah, that's a great one. Thank you for the call, Pat, 1:40:45.360 --> 1:40:48.200 that's really good. I hadn't thought about a boxing match, 1:40:48.439 --> 1:40:50.599 but I've heard that in the past, like with NFL games, 1:40:50.600 --> 1:40:53.639 like you don't realize how violent it is unless you're 1:40:53.680 --> 1:40:57.080 on the sidelines and you can like hear them hitting 1:40:57.160 --> 1:40:59.759 each other. I never would have thought about that with boxing, 1:40:59.800 --> 1:41:02.200 but that's a great observation one that I did not 1:41:02.320 --> 1:41:04.599 think of. If somebody brought to the table at the time, 1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:06.960 fight would be really really cool. Yeah, yeah, that would 1:41:06.960 --> 1:41:09.200 be cool, especially in those those types of arenas. We 1:41:09.320 --> 1:41:13.439 got time for one more. Let's talk to John and Anderson. John, 1:41:13.880 --> 1:41:16.160 you're finishing it off tonight. What do you got for us? 1:41:17.200 --> 1:41:17.519 Thanks? 1:41:17.520 --> 1:41:17.800 Brother. 1:41:17.880 --> 1:41:21.320 I got two of them boats baseball related. The first 1:41:21.320 --> 1:41:24.720 one trip to Cooperstown to see Mark and get inducted. 1:41:24.880 --> 1:41:26.439 Oh, that was just awesome. 1:41:27.439 --> 1:41:27.559 Uh. 1:41:27.800 --> 1:41:29.599 And the next I got to see the Red Steet 1:41:30.080 --> 1:41:34.400 the Red Sox at Senway. 1:41:31.680 --> 1:41:31.880 Oh. 1:41:35.560 --> 1:41:38.320 I've heard a lot of good things about Cooperstown, and 1:41:38.640 --> 1:41:40.920 you got to be there for a red being inducted. 1:41:40.960 --> 1:41:42.479 That's even cooler than normal. 1:41:43.439 --> 1:41:45.880 Oh man, you're bumping elbows with all the greats just 1:41:45.920 --> 1:41:48.440 walking down the street. Can't put a price. 1:41:48.200 --> 1:41:50.519 On that because it's a really small town, right, It's 1:41:50.520 --> 1:41:52.960 just that it's basically just the Hall of Fame. 1:41:53.400 --> 1:41:57.720 Oh yeah, it's the smallest town. It's just little stores 1:41:58.120 --> 1:42:01.000 here and there, little rep Thank you, aunt. I mean 1:42:01.240 --> 1:42:04.200 you're walking in and Pete Rose is walking down the 1:42:04.200 --> 1:42:06.400 street next to you, Eric Davis down the hall. 1:42:06.800 --> 1:42:07.759 Yeah, it was awesome. 1:42:07.800 --> 1:42:09.760 That's cool John, Thank you. Man, I appreciate the. 1:42:09.720 --> 1:42:11.880 Call, no problem, thank you. 1:42:12.360 --> 1:42:13.639 That is that's good stuff. 1:42:13.760 --> 1:42:15.720 I was hoping that the topic would take off a 1:42:15.720 --> 1:42:18.400 little bit and we'd get to hear some sports bucket listen, 1:42:18.400 --> 1:42:20.080 and gladly we did, and there were some good ones 1:42:20.080 --> 1:42:22.519 in there, and definitely some ones that I hadn't thought of. 1:42:22.560 --> 1:42:25.080 So I appreciate everybody for being a part of the 1:42:25.120 --> 1:42:28.519 show that way. 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