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Speaker 1: This Star Tribune led North Star summit that took place

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Speaker 1: five to one carpet Next Day install Studios. Former Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Governor Tim Paulenti was a part of this panel talking

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Speaker 1: and lamenting about how Republicans and they're aligning with Trump,

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Speaker 1: it's going to make it difficult to win statewide races.

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Speaker 1: And yet the other individuals that were a part of

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Speaker 1: this panel, Minnesota Republican Senators Juliet Corman and Coleman excuse me,

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Speaker 1: and Zach Duckworth are both great examples of how, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can still align yourself with MAGA, but also articulate

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Speaker 1: what you stand for and try to take away some

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Speaker 1: of that stereotype attached to the make America Again great label.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to a few of your talkbacks. I

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Speaker 1: want to dive back into this piece and then we'll

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Speaker 1: get into the propaganda that's being peddled by the Star

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Speaker 1: Tribune in the wake of their own summit.

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Speaker 2: I'll explain here in a moment.

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Speaker 3: At a center of American Experiment event and Nape, you

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Speaker 3: are one hundred percent right, John. I heard Temple and

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Speaker 3: he give that speech at a Center of American Experiment

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Speaker 3: event in Naples, Florida, last year, and I almost walked out.

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Speaker 3: We need someone bold enough, with a little chrisma that

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Speaker 3: could do a make Minnesota grade again. And right now

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Speaker 3: the time is ripe. It is ripe. A lot of

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Speaker 3: people are frustrated in this state. The person who steps

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Speaker 3: up and does that will win.

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Speaker 1: You just need to be able to articulate what you

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Speaker 1: stand for and what you believe in. You know, be

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Speaker 1: willing to push back on the label and the stereotype

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Speaker 1: that's associated with because the left has done a very

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Speaker 1: very good job.

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Speaker 2: Relating to that MAGA label.

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Speaker 1: Because the the individuals that you're trying to reach it,

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Speaker 1: even those on the left, are the individuals that would

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Speaker 1: be willing to go and actually listen to you.

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Speaker 2: There's plenty of people that won't.

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Speaker 1: You cannot change their minds, but there are individuals that

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Speaker 1: are willing to listen. So that's going to require you

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Speaker 1: to be as genuine and authentic as you can possibly

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Speaker 1: be to reach those individuals. Now, getting back to this

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Speaker 1: piece all the GOP panelists agree that Republican Republicans have

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Speaker 1: a good shot to get a few wins in next

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Speaker 1: year's midterm elections. Plenty even said Wallace's numbers are softer

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Speaker 1: than they used to be, which sort of creates a

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Speaker 2: Then the article goes on.

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Speaker 1: To say this and again, I chose the left leaning

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Reformer for this very reason. But that's a big

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Speaker 1: if Mike Lindell, the far right wing influencer and Pillows salesman,

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Speaker 1: is moulling a run for governor. If he wins the

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Speaker 1: Republican endorsement, all of his baggage, including his years of

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Speaker 1: spreading disinformation about the twenty twenty election, will be fodder

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Speaker 1: for the democrats well funded campaign. Listen, if the author

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Speaker 1: knew her stuff, and maybe they do, maybe she does,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but you wouldn't even have bothered suggesting that.

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Speaker 2: Listen. Mike Lindel's a good dude. I've spoken to him before.

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Speaker 1: He stands for great stuff, but he too has no

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Speaker 1: the election again. Great guy, but he shouldn't be running.

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Speaker 1: And this is part of the reason why whether or

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Speaker 1: on Mike Lindell, it don't. It doesn't matter that damage

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Speaker 1: is done. Again, great guy stands for great stuff and

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Speaker 1: they wrap up with a little bit more from Polente.

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Speaker 1: It's also not enough to criticize the state.

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Speaker 2: And I actually agree with him on this.

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Speaker 1: To be successful, Republicans need to paint a positive vision

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Speaker 1: We have to say here's what we'll do better.

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Speaker 1: So I agree with Polenty on that he's right, But

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Speaker 1: But again, you need to be genuine, you need to

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Speaker 1: individuals do. They've got great ideas, and they're great public speakers,

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Speaker 1: they're also their own worst enemies, going after individuals within

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Speaker 2: All Right, I've.

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Speaker 1: Been holding off on this all morning long. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I haven't even teased it. Governor Tim Walls says that

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Speaker 2: Now he's not calling a special session.

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Speaker 1: This Star Tribune article subheadline says the Democrat governor says

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Speaker 2: So now what is he going to do?

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Speaker 1: He's going to start holding town halls to talk about guns.

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Speaker 1: On Wednesday, Tim Wall said he'll start holding these town

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Speaker 1: a legislative agreement on gun policy changes continues to elude him.

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Speaker 1: It eludes him because he doesn't have the votes in

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Speaker 2: You and I know that.

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Speaker 1: And he's definitely afraid of calling a special session one

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Speaker 1: having that be exposed. Two he's afraid of more fraud exposure.

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Speaker 1: So what is he doing now? He's attempting to get

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Speaker 2: With the special session.

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Speaker 1: He wants anti GOP campaign fodder for next year's midterm elections.

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Speaker 2: That was the only motivation for calling a special session

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Speaker 1: But now that he realizes there's no way he's going

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Speaker 1: If we're going to hold the special session on safety

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Speaker 2: What you're fascinating to talk to.

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Speaker 1: And if the folks who hold veto power over this,

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Speaker 1: sure like everybody who has been exercising even a little

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Speaker 1: with these clergy, and with doctors and with others, said Walls.

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Speaker 1: It's the end of this piece that really is the kicker.

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Speaker 1: Walls said that he believes the bands could possibly save

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Speaker 1: If Republicans oppose it, he said they should be proudly

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Speaker 2: Because that is a flat out lie. He's not the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: And again, I'm losing my cool on this.

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Speaker 1: We'll also be getting into the commentary that Walls and JB.

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Speaker 1: Pritsker laid out at this North Star summit and how

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Speaker 1: They created this town hall. Walls pedals this misinformation, fear

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Speaker 2: Drink some water.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna keep on Governor Tim Walls wanting to

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Speaker 2: Of which he is the only one that can call it.

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Speaker 1: Looking at the clock, We're going to be talking with

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Speaker 5: I think it would be interesting to have someone go

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Speaker 1: And first off, you have to get into the town hall.

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Speaker 2: Very pleased to welcome.

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Speaker 1: I'm back to the show our adopted senator from Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: Ron Johnson. We have a number of different things that

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Speaker 4: Well, John, hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's lost on a lot of our young people

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Speaker 2: Let's move over to the shutdown which continues.

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Speaker 1: Are you putting any you know, any credit whatsoever on

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Speaker 4: Senator Johnson, Well, I just heard a video that Truckture

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Speaker 4: No, the incitement to violence that elected officials are engaging in.

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Speaker 4: So no, again, there's there's there's nothing positive about leftism

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Speaker 4: that they don't build or construct anything. They just destroy.

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Speaker 4: And it's again it's clear to us. But uh again,

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Speaker 4: when you have the communication armored, your leftist party, the

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Speaker 4: legacy media, you know work preaches the choir here, I

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Speaker 4: don't know how you. I really do not know how

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Speaker 4: you break through the other side. They are thoroughly indocumated

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Speaker 4: and they're not willing to listen. They're not willing to

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Speaker 4: open up their eyes.

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Speaker 1: So your colleague and Senator Joni earnst I said yesterday

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Speaker 1: to Newsmax, we need a special counsel for probe on

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Speaker 1: the FBI GOP surveillance. You were included among these senators

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Speaker 1: wherein former Special Counsel Jack Smith allegedly monitored your phone

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Speaker 1: calls and personal messages and during his probe of Trump's

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Speaker 1: efforts to contest the results of the twenty twenty presidential election.

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Speaker 1: According to Fox News, did you have any indication prior

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Speaker 1: to receiving this document that this had transpired? Did you

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Speaker 1: have your suspicions or did this catch you by surprise

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Speaker 1: along with the other senators.

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Speaker 4: No, but I've been investigating the FBI and the weaponized

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Speaker 4: the FBI and Partment justin now for ten years, so

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Speaker 4: it didn't surprise me in the slightest and should outrage

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Speaker 4: every American and listen, I agree with Joanires that we

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Speaker 4: have to get to the bottom of thisss, but I

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Speaker 4: disagree a special counsel, a criminal investigation will ensure that

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Speaker 4: we'll never know the details. Yeah, I've been doing this

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Speaker 4: for ten years. Anytime Jack John Durham was a Special Council,

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Speaker 4: we never found out all the criminality because he didn't

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Speaker 4: charge people and then they seal the record. So no,

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Speaker 4: what needs to happen is an internal investigation. Tender Grassey

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Speaker 4: and I we've been requesting all this information at Arctic Frost.

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Speaker 4: We've been requesting information on the FBI since the prior

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Speaker 4: Trump administration. Okay, we haven't got So we need is

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Speaker 4: we need a rigorous internal investigation that then turns the

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Speaker 4: documents over to Congress, in other words, over to the public.

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Speaker 4: And if that puts in jeopardy of a conviction, that's

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Speaker 4: fine from my standpoint, trucially because I don't know what

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Speaker 4: crimes we can convict him of. It will be a

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Speaker 4: slap on the wrist like it was with the the

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Speaker 4: you know, the guy who doctored the email that you

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Speaker 4: know provided the PISAC warrant. So no, I am the

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Speaker 4: number one planet private accountability. Here is the full exposure

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Speaker 4: to American people. Have to understand exactly how awful these

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Speaker 4: people are, because again there's no penalty on any crime

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Speaker 4: they could be convicted of. They would even come close

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Speaker 4: to making up for the diction and damage they have

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Speaker 4: inflicted on our body politics. I mean, Russia and China

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Speaker 4: could only dream of inflicting the kind of election interference

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Speaker 4: damage to our George democracy. Then James Clapper, Komy Brennan,

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Speaker 4: all these guys, you know, the list is long, but

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Speaker 4: the head was Obama invite.

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Speaker 1: Do you see this potential revelation in these records released

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Speaker 1: by Senator Chuck Chuck Grassley as sort of the means

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Speaker 1: to continue to expose what you're referring to, or is

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Speaker 1: this the opportunity to move forward on this to hold

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Speaker 1: people accountable. I guess I'm trying to sort of get

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Speaker 1: to the heart of just how big of an issue

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Speaker 1: this is specifically relating to the snooping on the phone

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Speaker 1: records versus what you were just mentioning, and that is

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Speaker 1: the way the FBI was conducting itself as a whole.

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Speaker 2: As you were describing, this is tipically iceberg.

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Speaker 4: And the only reason we know this is the person

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Speaker 4: who catched those records was reapplying for reserfication to be

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Speaker 4: part of that cast team, the cell your analyst survey team.

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Speaker 4: So this is a brag sheet. This is this is

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Speaker 4: a sheet of accomplishment, get re certified to be able

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Speaker 4: to do the same thing again. So they're proud of this. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's how cavalier they were towards this, you know, outrageous

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Speaker 4: breach of separation of powers. So no, this typically ice

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Speaker 4: for again demographically and I have been we've been asking

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Speaker 4: for demanding all the records from Arctic Frost. The only

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Speaker 4: the only other record we got was from whistle blower.

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Speaker 4: So again, cash brutalite. I have a great deal of

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Speaker 4: sympathy for him. He doesn't know what's there. You still

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Speaker 4: got partisans burrowed in protecting this stuff, covering it up.

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Speaker 4: So this is going to be a tough slot. That's

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Speaker 4: why we need a strong internal investigation and then provide

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Speaker 4: the documents to us, not keep them buried in a

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Speaker 4: privileged access file, which is where Jack Smith had this.

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Speaker 4: But where where is all this information? You know, It's

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Speaker 4: just kind of like the Epstein files. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 4: you finally turned something over. Is that all there was? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Does anybody know? I mean to what extent were they doctors?

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Speaker 4: So no, again people do criminals know how to bury

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Speaker 4: their their tracks? Cover their tracks?

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Speaker 1: One last thing, let's go back to the shutdown. Just

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Speaker 1: briefly talking with Senator Ron Johnson. Any expectation on when

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Speaker 1: this is going to end?

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Speaker 4: There?

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Speaker 1: You just kind of looking at this on a day

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Speaker 1: by day basis. I mean, we're going to head to

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Speaker 1: this weekend with the government still shut down, or do

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Speaker 1: you think there's an opportunity that maybe there might be

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Speaker 1: some on the left that may defect and give the

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Speaker 1: necessary votes.

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Speaker 4: Toand this Democrats seem pretty well dug in. Again, their

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Speaker 4: lives are effective there, they're not being called out by

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Speaker 4: the mainstream media. So the House did the right thing.

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Speaker 4: They passed the tweak and see hour funding levels that

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Speaker 4: they have proved under Biden. You know, the truck Shomers

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Speaker 4: is voted for. I didn't hear fifty fifty five continuing

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Speaker 4: resolutions since I got here, Okay, and all of a

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Speaker 4: sudden he's opposed to it. He's opposed to biden spending levels.

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Speaker 4: So again, this is the balls in Democrats court. But

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Speaker 4: they're dug in and they've got a huge assist by

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Speaker 4: the media. So I don't know when this sounds. I

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Speaker 4: sure hope that we don't perpetuate the fraud of these

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Speaker 4: enhanced subsidies. I mean that would be a major political

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Speaker 4: blunder on our part. And tossed about three hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty to four and fifty billion dollars money we can't afford.

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Speaker 1: Our adopted Senator from Wisconsin, Ron Johnson, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for the time this morning. It was great to

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Speaker 1: speak with you and to keep up the good work,

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Speaker 1: and thank you so much for talking with.

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Speaker 2: Us this morning.

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Speaker 4: A great day.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to.

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Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls, this north Star summit that took place,

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Speaker 1: and we'll just sort of a how it started and

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Speaker 1: how it's going with this. So we mentioned earlier in

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Speaker 1: the hour Walls is going to be holding these town halls.

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Speaker 1: That news broke yesterday. Now it's kind of been buried.

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Speaker 1: I saw the headline last night before I went to bed,

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Speaker 1: and when I got up this morning, it was just

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Speaker 1: a sidebar on the homepage of the Star Tribune, which

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Speaker 1: hosted this north Star event, where in Walls and JB.

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Speaker 1: Prinzker said all this over the top rhetoric. So I

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Speaker 1: want to kind of recap. We covered this a bit yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna work off of Alpha News and again

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Speaker 1: how the started. And then every time I feel like

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Speaker 1: on the show I've read the most ridiculous editorial possible,

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Speaker 1: somebody steps up and proves me wrong. And we'll get

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Speaker 1: to this coming up on the show as well, after

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Speaker 1: we and talk a bit about what transpired on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls, Prinzker told an audience in Minneapolis that

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Speaker 1: they believe that their criticism of Donald Trump could result

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Speaker 1: in both of them being arrested by the federal government.

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Speaker 1: Let me play the quick clip we shared this yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but this was Fox and I's coverage of Governor Tim

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Speaker 1: Walls from this event.

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Speaker 8: I think it makes it be logical for them to

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Speaker 8: come here. We fall into exactly what it looks like.

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Speaker 8: They're trying to target blue cities in places that he

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Speaker 8: wants to make an impact. You can certainly chill voting

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Speaker 8: in states like Minnesota if you target Minneapolis and Saint Paul.

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Speaker 9: There was also a discussion at that forum earlier this

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Speaker 9: afternoon that the about the president targeting perceived political enemies.

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Speaker 9: Both say they believe the President Trump could have them arrested.

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Speaker 1: Do you both believe that you could sincerely be arrested?

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Speaker 10: I'm asking any of you to come visit me in

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Speaker 10: the gulag and.

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Speaker 2: That se yes. I think in all seriousness yes.

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Speaker 1: And Okay, we're gonna need to revisit this again because

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Speaker 1: it's incredibly relevant to the editorial that I'm going to

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Speaker 1: get into from the Star Tribune. But going back to

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Speaker 1: the Alpha News article, Pritz Garn Walls, as you heard,

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Speaker 1: described Trump as a tyrant and an autocrat during their

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Speaker 1: forty five minute discussion that they had with the New

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Speaker 1: York Times political report of Lisa Lehre. The conversation was

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Speaker 1: part again of the Star Tribune's inaugural North Star Summit

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Speaker 1: at the Walker Art Museum. And what's interesting about this

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Speaker 1: whole thing is that this was a setup with this

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Speaker 1: North Star event. We talked about this earlier relating to

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Speaker 1: the Republican angle of this. A lot of propaganda gets spread,

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Speaker 1: rhetoric by Walls and Printzker, and then the Star Tribune

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Speaker 1: comes in on the backside to pedal that propaganda.

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Speaker 2: There's something new.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going through the circular nature of how the

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Speaker 1: left operates through the media here in Minnesota. In Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: the event was the inspiration of the Star Tribune CEO

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Speaker 1: Steve Grove, who had left the Walls administration as a

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Speaker 1: cabinet member in twenty twenty three to lead the state's

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Speaker 1: largest paper. Tickets to the to the event ranged from

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Speaker 1: three hundred to five hundred dollars. Listen if I know

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Speaker 1: ahead of time, I was what told everybody, you can

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Speaker 1: just listen to the show for free. I'll recap it,

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Speaker 1: which is what I'm doing now. So you heard the audio, right,

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Speaker 1: and they quote it in the in the Alpha news story.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe you could be arrested? Lear asks Pritzker

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Speaker 1: at one point, you know, said you know, I'm asking

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Speaker 1: any one of you to come to visit me in

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Speaker 1: the Gulag and l Salvador, they're all laughing. It's all jovio,

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Speaker 1: it's all funny. And again I'm setting the table. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to refute all this in a moment. Okay, now again,

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Speaker 1: Walls reiterated this, adding it was not a question of

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Speaker 1: whether Trump wanted to arrest him, but how easy it

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Speaker 1: might be to do so. And again said Walls, if

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Speaker 1: you think you're getting out of this, as the old adage,

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Speaker 1: they're going to come for immigrants, They're going to come

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Speaker 1: for Democrats, They're going to come for you eventually. That

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Speaker 1: came following Walls telling the New York Times reporter that

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Speaker 1: his administration has been preparing for the possibility of the

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Speaker 1: National Guard deployments as I played for you a moment ago.

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Speaker 1: Walls also said he believes that Trump wants to run

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Speaker 1: for a third term. Pritzker then went and drew his

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Speaker 1: Holocaust analogy.

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Speaker 10: What I know is in the early days of the

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Speaker 10: Nazi regime, they started slowly but surely taking away people's rights.

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Speaker 10: And what we're seeing now is the very same thing.

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Speaker 10: They've gone into cities now with the military. Think about

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Speaker 10: that your lifetime. Have you ever seen anything like that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just gonna all right, So this is how

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Speaker 1: it started. That's your setup.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: This brings me to the editorial from this morning Star

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Speaker 1: Tribune written by Rochelle.

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Speaker 2: Olsen Rachelle Rochon.

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Speaker 1: And again, every time I think I've read the most

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Speaker 1: over the top ridiculous take, in this case, Rochelle comes

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Speaker 1: in and says, hold my beer. So let's work through

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Speaker 1: some of this. We'll get to your thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app brought to you by Lyndahl Realty, Minnesota Governor

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Speaker 1: Tim Walls and Illinois Governor JB.

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Speaker 2: Prinsker.

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Speaker 1: She writes, declared on public stage in Minneapolis on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: that they expect to be jailed by President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Now you heard the audio just a moment ago. They

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Speaker 1: were all joking and laughing about it. Which way is it?

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Speaker 1: It cracks me up too, because just as a sidebar

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Speaker 1: like JB. Pritzker get you get the Nazi commentary right.

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Speaker 1: He's an authoritarian, he's a tyrant, he's a dictator. Walls

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Speaker 1: does the same thing, and then within the same event

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Speaker 1: they'll make claims that always got dementia, he's dealing with

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Speaker 1: mental issues. Well, which one is it?

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Speaker 2: Can you pick one?

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Speaker 1: I'm not the first to go and point this out,

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Speaker 1: but you can't be both. Rochelle goes on, and she acknowledges.

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Speaker 1: The audience chuckled lightly in the dark theater as Pritzker

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Speaker 1: continued with the joke, I'm asking any of you to

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Speaker 1: come visit me in the gulag. Then Rochelle says, but

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Speaker 1: think about this moment, and it's no joke. Two democratic

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Speaker 1: governors saying that they expect to be imprisoned by the

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Speaker 1: president not for their illegal acts, but for their defiance

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Speaker 1: of Trump's authoritarian aims. The wordplay that she deploys here

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Speaker 1: is so incredibly devious. Yes, they said that, but it's

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Speaker 1: pure fear mongering that Rachelle reinforces in the piece. And

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Speaker 1: then she says, did Walls or Pritzker explain why the

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Speaker 1: president might have a reason to imprison or jail them.

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Speaker 2: No, to a rational person, you would look at that

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Speaker 2: and immediately see what it is.

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Speaker 1: Over the top, inflammatory or joking rhetoric in fear mongering

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Speaker 1: that has no basis in reality.

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Speaker 2: You should have been and if you.

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Speaker 1: Were a writer or an editorial columnist worth actually having

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Speaker 1: your words printed, this would have been pointing out how

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Speaker 1: ridiculous their comments were. But that's not, of course what

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Speaker 1: she does, because, as I mentioned, the Start Tribune creates

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Speaker 1: an nor Star summit, Waltz and Pritzker pedal their nonsense,

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Speaker 1: fear mongering propaganda, and when the dutiful strip columnists amplified

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Speaker 1: that propaganda the next day with an editorial like this,

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Speaker 1: she says, because there is no legitimate reason here.

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Speaker 2: If they were arrested, Trump would.

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Speaker 1: Have been the first to tell us, and yet both

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Speaker 1: governors sounded confident that Trump would come for them sooner

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Speaker 1: or later. The muted response in the audience suggests that

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Speaker 1: those in attendance were not terribly shocked, or those in

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Speaker 1: attendants were fully aware that there was no basis of

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Speaker 1: fact to even go and make that claim by either

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Speaker 1: of the governors. Like Pritzker, Walls also made a joke

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Speaker 1: about being targeted by Trump. The Minnesota governor said he

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Speaker 1: was confused as to why he was higher than Pritzker

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Speaker 1: on the presidential enemy's list, given that P comes before.

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Speaker 2: W in the alphabet.

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Speaker 1: It was so funny, right, Here were two, Rachelle Olsen writes,

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Speaker 1: Here were two legally elected term Midwestern governors announcing on

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Speaker 1: a public stage that they expect to be arrested and

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Speaker 1: imprisoned by the current president for no reason other than

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Speaker 1: a political disagreement. This, as Walls said repeatedly, is not normal.

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Speaker 1: It's sickening, and it's unconscionable. She writes, what a stunning

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Speaker 1: display of irrational bias.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible to me that she lays out.

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Speaker 1: In detail what actually transpired and then expects people, and

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Speaker 1: I know people will, to buy into the ridiculous, over

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Speaker 1: the top propaganda, inflammatory spin of the reality of what happened.

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Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is Walls and Pritzker have

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Speaker 1: no examples of why they would be arrested because they

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Speaker 1: know there.

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Speaker 2: Is no reason to have them arrested.

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Speaker 1: And when we get further into the piece coming up

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Speaker 1: in just a moment here on Twin Cities News Talk,

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Speaker 1: she gets into the Chicago mayor and how that is

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Speaker 1: an example of and Trump making a comment about individuals

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Speaker 1: being arrested, but that is specifically based off of the

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Speaker 1: actions that they are taking that many are legally arguing,

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Speaker 1: and you know, rise to the level of treason. Treason

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Speaker 1: is conspiracy, you know.

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Speaker 2: And just again, And I.

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Speaker 1: Know people will say this, and I know they'll be

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Speaker 1: talkbacks going, why are you covering this? People don't read

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Speaker 1: the star tribute and it's not true.

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Speaker 2: People do. They don't use their brains.

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Speaker 1: They read this in face value and they think that

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Speaker 1: this is the reality without using their brain, without exercising

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Speaker 1: common sense, without being rational. And this is the kind

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Speaker 1: of rhetoric that flams that fans the flames. Excuse me

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Speaker 1: as I cam bine my words that fans the flames

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Speaker 1: to individuals who want to go and commit harm to others.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to your thoughts coming up here on Twin

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