1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: It's up on her site on Facebook. I recommend you 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: follow her if you care about matters going on and 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: the shenanigans going on around downtown Cincinnati or Cincinnati generally speaking, 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: the person to follow is a Signal ninety nine. She's 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: got the feed from all the people with the inside scoop, 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: she's got whistleblowers, and she always brings the goods with 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: her to support the allegation she makes online welcome back 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine. I wish you were here, but I 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: understand that what you weren't able to make. But it's 10 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: say okay, because you're right there on the phone. 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Good morning. Yeah. I was kind of icky this morning 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: and I thought I didn't have a voice actually when 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: I called Joe at like one point thirty this morning. 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: So it's slowly coming back, but just letting you know. 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: I love Congressman Davidson, I know, and I have a 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: list of people that I would love to send to Iran, 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: but we could talk about that later. 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: I think we all have our list. It wouldn't take 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: long for me to fill out quite a few eight 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: and a half fi eleven sheets of paper with people 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: that like to go there, experience what life's like under 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: the Iitola and then come back here and be thankful 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: that we live in America. Anyway, I tell you what. 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: I could just go into any of the various topics 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: of some of them, which I rattled off before the break, 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: but I kind of want to make a dealer's choice. 27 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: What's really hot on your radar right now? Signal ninety 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: ninety you want to talk about here on the fifty 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: five KRC Morning Show. 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: Well, can we start with the Cincinnati Fire Department? Yeah, 31 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: let's do that, Okay, So let me just preface this 32 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: by saying, we love the Cincinnati Fire Department. These men 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: and women do a phenomenal job every single day, and 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: we're grateful for them. But you know, I don't know 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: if you caught the video of the Public Safety Committee 36 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: meeting a couple of days ago with Chief McKinley answering questions, 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: but I can't count the pinocchios. Okay. There were so 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: many pinocchios and his answers that I got a little 39 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: bit feral. So I had to do a screen recording 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: of that and post it, and I think I wrote 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: like a novella about it, calling out everything that he misrepresented. 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: It's insanity to me that he thinks nobody's going to 43 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: fact check this well and me crazy? 44 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that was going to be my question, which 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: is Okay, beyond the general accusations of basically lies, Pinocchio 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: is of course translated into lies, that person spoke, misspoke, 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: or said the wrong thing. Why would anyone do that? 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: To what end would someone lie? In what particular context? 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Would would it? Would you think it would benefit him 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: to say something that is demonstrably false. 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know a lot of leaders get away with 52 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: it every day, Brian. If they didn't do it, we 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have much content on our page. Actually, I 54 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: mean we'd have some means and and you know, some 55 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: touchy feely stuff, but calling him out, blowing them up, 56 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: we wouldn't have that much. If people told the truth 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: and were transparent and had actual integrity, Okay, would probably 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: be boring. 59 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: That is fair enough. I'll tell you what possible we'll 60 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: bring back. We'll talk about some of the details about 61 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: which the Chief McKinley well prevaricated on, along with a 62 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: whole bunch more, including the antics involving Judge carry Bloom 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: and Connie Hamil Canny Prosecutor Connie Pillage. That one's crazy 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: signal and I'm looking forward to that discussion as well. 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Folks can stick around. We'll continue with signal ninety nine. 66 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: I'll start with foreign Exchange, where I'm going to be 67 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: about KRCD talk station signal ninety nine on the program 68 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: this morning, talking about local. But I like to call 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Shenan again before we pivot away from Chief McKinley in 70 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: his testament of the other day, what did he lie 71 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: about specifically? Got you hot and bothered? Dave? Signal ninety nine. 72 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, when Scottie Johnson asked him, Hey, how are 73 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: you How are we doing with personnel? Are we fine? 74 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: Or do we have a lot of you know, work 75 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: ahead of us? As far as the compliment, the compliment 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: is the number did you need to have to operate 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: safely like the police? 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: We don't have. We don't have a full compliment of 79 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: police officers there you go, same thing going on in 80 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: the fire department, maybe correct, so you know. 81 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: Their complement is down. And McKinley said, oh no, you know, 82 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: Cheryl Long and I have discussed this and me and 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: Sheral Long and we're fine where we're at fine, he said, 84 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: We're fine. That's an exact what We're fine. We're not fine. 85 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: We're not anywhere close to fine. They're running overtime on 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: medic units. They've taken five medic units and broke them 87 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: down to be basic life support instead of advanced life 88 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: support because they don't have enough paramedics to stay them. 89 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: He lied about adding a second heavy rescue that's not true. 90 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: That was added under Chief Michael Washington years ago, long 91 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: before Wu Tang Frank blew into Cincinnati. So, and I 92 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: don't know if you know the Wu Tang reference, but 93 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: he's a big Wu Tang fan. And his license plate 94 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: says Wu Tang Won on it, I think is what 95 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: it was or eleven. Yeah, so yeah, so I call 96 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: him Wu Tang Frank. He probably does not like that, 97 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: but I probably don't lose any sleep over that. 98 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: I know you don't. 99 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he just you know, he just lied about 100 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: so many things, and I broke them all down in 101 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: the post on Signal ninety nine, and I actually I listened, 102 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: I watched the whole thing, and then I went, Okay, 103 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: this is an accurate, This is an accurate, This is 104 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: an accurate. This is an accurate. So I reached out 105 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: to some of my CFD homides uh and I said, hey, 106 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: can we confirm this is not correct? And yeah, check them, 107 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: check them all off right down the line. Boom boom, 108 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: boom boom. So got a bunch of facts to back 109 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: that up. The previously in twenty I believe it is 110 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, Chief Washington asked that smoke detectors and 111 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: batteries be put in the running budget to be continual 112 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: every year, and City Manager share Al Long told them 113 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: that's not possible. We don't have the money for that. 114 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: But now that fire fatalities are up five hundred percent 115 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: this year alone, now we have the money for that. 116 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: So that's interesting to me when you know, if we'd 117 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 2: had the money for that last year and the year before, 118 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: the people may have had smoke detectors that worked this year. 119 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: So you know, they're talking about providing now three smoke 120 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: detectors and batteries to what all the residents of the 121 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati signal. 122 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: Who needs them? Yeah, yeah, the residents that need them, 123 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: and the CFD installs them so they make sure that 124 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 2: they're installed properly, that they're working. When they leave, they 125 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: also do safety checks. These are all things that the 126 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: city's provided for a very long time when they have 127 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: the budget that allows that. Now, all of a sudden, 128 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: we have the budget for it. I find that interesting 129 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: well too. But I do have I have five questions 130 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: that I would love for the media to ask the 131 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: city and the Chief of the CFT how much money 132 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: has CFD spent on smoke detectors in so still years 133 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, and twenty twenty six, respectively. 134 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: Question two, how many smoke detectors were actually installed? Question three? 135 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 2: Which neighborhoods were they installed? In? Question four? Which funding 136 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: source did the money come from? And question five, my favorite, 137 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: can you provide copies of purchase orders buying said detectors 138 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: and batteries that are dated and signed by a procurement 139 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 2: official for twenty four, twenty five, and twenty twenty six. 140 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: So those are the questions I'm throwing out there right 141 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: now to Chief McKinley and to share along. Cough it up. 142 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: If everything you're saying is true, show us the receipts. 143 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry, I'm still struggling with a concept smoke 144 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: detectors and life saving they are, you know, as someone 145 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: who would be worried about a fire and would like 146 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: to have their life saved, I think I would probably 147 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: be able to find the fifteen twenty bucks that you 148 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: need to go to the home depot buy a damn 149 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: smoke detector on your own. I mean, that's not out 150 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: of the reach of the vast majority of the people 151 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: in the world, and I would think just you know, 152 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: logic and common sense would dictate you might want to 153 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: put that pretty high in your allocation of funds left. 154 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: But just that we actually buy and pay for smoke 155 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: detectors and batteries regularly for folks, I'm sorry, I just 156 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: struggle with that conceptually. 157 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: Well, you got to understand there's a lot of grants 158 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: out there that cover that type of stuff, and being 159 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: the size that the city is, I'm sure they have 160 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: several grant writers. They could be getting all that money 161 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: for free. So they probably also have deals with manufacturers 162 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: that they can make buy in bulk amounts of smoke 163 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: detectors and batteries. I mean, there's all kinds of things 164 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: that they can do. The most important thing for me 165 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: is they knew about this winter storm that was coming. Yes, 166 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: we all knew, we all knew about the arctic temperatures 167 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: that were coming. Most cities will open warming shelters for 168 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: the people that have no power or have no home 169 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: right okay, to the people that can't afford to heat 170 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: their homes. Most cities will offer those tip proof, childproof 171 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: space heaters. So you might have to put all the 172 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: family in one bedroom and turn a space heater on. 173 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: You're only going to get one, but it's better than 174 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: turning your oven on and leaving it open and burning 175 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: your house down. Call me crazy. We have to anticipate 176 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 2: that that's going to happen every winner when we get 177 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: into those frigid temperatures. That's common sense. Everybody knows that, 178 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: and especially people in the fire industry. 179 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense. I hear where you're coming from. 180 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: And oh, look, fatalities are up dramatically just this beginning 181 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: of the calendar year, almost as many as a full 182 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: calendar year last year. Signal ninety night, let's pause, bring 183 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: it back. I want to talk to you about what 184 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: happened with the prosecutors Lina Scott and Judge Carrie Bloom 185 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: and Connie Pillach's reaction to the whole situation. This is 186 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: going to blow a lot of people's minds. I do 187 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: believe against station seven fifty five KR seed talk station 188 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: signal ninety nine in the program. And let's putting over 189 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: to the Prosecutor's office and Judge Carrie Bloom and of 190 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: course assistant Prosecutor Linda Scott. Linda Scott, doing her job 191 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: as assistant prosecutor, appealed a ruling from Judge Cary Bloom, 192 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: and she had a back to field apparently appealed quite 193 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: a few of these different rulings. It's what you do. 194 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: If there's a bad he believed there's a bad decision, 195 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: you appeal it to the higher court. And in many 196 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: cases apparently Linda Scott won on appeal, which apparently irked 197 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Judge Carrie Bloom, who accused her of being adversarial. That 198 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: was the accusation. And then, as I understand it, signal 199 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: ninety nine Connie Pilach got involved, and is it true 200 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: that she transferred Linda Scott to a different division after 201 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: this interaction. 202 00:11:52,559 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: So last year Administrative Juvenile Court Judge Carrie Bloom said 203 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: she didn't want Linda Scott in her courtroom anymore because 204 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: there was an adcessary relationship. Well, no, there wasn't. She 205 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: was just tired of losing and having her decisions overturned 206 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: at the appellate level. So that didn't happen. Bloom continued 207 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: to harp about it, continue to harp about it. So 208 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, Pillage approached and I call 209 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: her the con Okay, I called Connie Pillage the Cohn. 210 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: She approached Linda Scott. She said, hey, we're transferring you 211 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: to one of these two divisions and you have to choose, 212 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: and you have two days to decide, and if you don't, 213 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: we're going to let you go. And she said, I 214 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: don't have any experience in these divisions, and why am 215 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: I being punnished for, you know, basically doing my job. 216 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: It was just yeah, it was just put to her. Period, 217 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: you're not going back into you know, to juvenile court. 218 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: So here's your choices. You have two days. Well, then 219 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: yesterday another assistant prosecutor struck up a conversation with Linda 220 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: Scott and told her, well, I think you did cause 221 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: a addentarial relationship in juvenile court. And Linda Scott said, 222 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: how do you figure? You know? I did my job right, 223 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: you know, she she does these inappropriate rulings and the 224 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: appellate court agreed with me. 225 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Well she wait real quick here in terms of the 226 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: organizational structure, the Linda Scott, the prosecutor that appealed these 227 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: decisions in her eye, and of course the appellate Court's 228 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: eyes were inappropriate and overturned. Doesn't she work under Connie Pillaches? 229 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: She does? 230 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: Okay, now, paus pouts. That means either Connie Pillage knew 231 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: that these appeals were being filed or tacitly approved them 232 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: because of inaction. She didn't direct Linda Scott to not 233 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: appeal the decisions. All of this happened under her operational watch. 234 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: Correct, absolutely, okay, absolutely, you're right. So then after this 235 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: conversation happened between these two assistant Bronskuers, which did not 236 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: get heated. There was no unprofessional dialogue. This other assistant 237 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: prosecutor went to HR and claimed that Linda Scott was 238 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: disrespectful and unprofessional, and they fired her yesterday. She didn't 239 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: get a hearing, she didn't get any recourse whatsoever. They 240 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: just fired her. So I hope she's got a good attorney. 241 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I know she's a great attorney, but I 242 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: hope she gets an attorney. And as much as I'm 243 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: tired of paying taxes out through the nose because the 244 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: county wrote a check they can't cash with the Bengals, okay, 245 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm willing to pay more taxes for her to see 246 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: the hell out of the county. So I'm just going 247 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: to say that, well, I hope she does. 248 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: And this sounds to me remarkably similar to the other 249 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: lawsuits you're fighting right now, will be fighting list in 250 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: so far as the on leave chief of police. There's 251 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: no support for the termination. There's no demonstrable, you know, 252 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: misconduct on the job here. I mean to the extent 253 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: she had a conversation. 254 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: He said if she said, she said, and they they 255 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: didn't even give her a chance. But gone. 256 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: But this allegation of disrespect and unprofessionalism comes between. It 257 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: was was based on a discussion between two prosecutors. It 258 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: was correct, sort of like a side conversation that only 259 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: tangentially even related to the job of being a prosecutor, 260 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: which does include appealing decisions from judges. 261 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: Correct, Oh lord, that was yeah, yeah, it's crazy. So 262 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know right now. You know, when 263 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: judge Wendy Krost tells Connie Poet which she could jump through. 264 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: She jumps when Judge carry Bloom or Judge Silverstein or 265 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: Judge Branch or Judge Hathaway tell her to jump, Connie 266 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: Pillot jumps. She is doing the bidding of these judges 267 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: that are more concerned with being social workers than they 268 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: are being judges. And it's ridiculous because the two offices 269 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: should not be working together like that. No, it's a conflict, 270 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: a huge conflict. And I can tell you right now, 271 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: with Carrie Bloom on the bench and now Linda not 272 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: end Juvenile Court anymore, there's not going to be any 273 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: more appeals on Bloom's bad decisions. There's not going to 274 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: be any waves whatsoever. It's going to be whatever Bloom wants. 275 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: It's going to be business as usual. And Pilots is 276 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: going to bend the knee because she's terrified of these judges. 277 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: And that's a problem, Brian, that's a huge problem. 278 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: Well, it's misplaced terror, is lucn it's misplaced terror. Hell 279 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: does she have to be worried about judges? They don't 280 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: control whether or not she's elected. We do. 281 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: Well, now she thinks she's going to get primaried if 282 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: she doesn't bend the knee. So I'm just gonna say this. 283 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: Carrie Bloom is up for reelection this year, and Susan 284 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: Lucan is running against her. So if you live in 285 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: Hamlet the county and you want to actually see justice 286 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: happen in juvenile court, I highly suggest you vote for 287 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: Susan Lucat there's an endorsement, and give and so carry 288 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: Bloom the door. 289 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: There's an endorsement. We'll have more of these endorsements as 290 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: we get closer and closer in November. Reminding everyone the 291 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: importance of knowing before you walk into the ballot or 292 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: walk into a casture vote, please have a great understanding 293 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: of which judges are good and which ones you do 294 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: not want on the bench. Pause will bring signal ninety 295 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: nine back. After the top of our news, few more 296 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: things talked about, including Kevin Neary's murderer going free, among others. 297 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Don't go away today, tough headlines coming up at the 298 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: top of the hour. 299 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: The news changes every minute. 300 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: Fifty five KRZ the talk station this sweeptain eight'll five 301 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: give up KRC the talk todation, Beyen times. We's never 302 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: done a very happy Thursday slash Friday Eve, and I 303 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: am enjoying as I always do, my conversations with Signal 304 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: ninety nine. If you're not familiar with her work, go 305 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: to Facebook and search for signal ninety nine and follow 306 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: her antics online. Rub people the wrong way quite often, 307 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: but quite often bringing things to our attention, like this 308 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: situation involving Prosecutor Pillage, Judge Carrie Bloom and assistant Prosecutor Scott. 309 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: So you summed it up real quickly here just to 310 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: put an exclamation point Signal ninety nine on the prior 311 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: topic before we went in to break. As you summed 312 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: up in your reporting on this of elected prosecutor Pillage 313 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: is allowing judges to dictate staffing decisions based upon whether 314 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: they feel challenged. Than the independence of the office is compromise. 315 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: If she's permitting reassignment in this case Prosecutor Scott, reassignment 316 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: or termination which she was terminated because the judge dislikes 317 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: appellate pushback, than the separation between the bench and the 318 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: prosecution is eroding in plain sight. In other words, Connie Pillach, 319 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: which is supposed to prosecute crimes and make sure that 320 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: judges render appropriate decisions, requiring prosecutors to appeal those decisions. 321 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: You're right, there is no more real this fundamentally just 322 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: there's gonna be no more prosecutions apparently, Signal ninety nine. 323 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: All judge has to do. That's one of these woke judges, 324 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: and you outline a whole bunch of them Bloom, Cross, Hathaway, 325 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: Silversteain Branch. They're just gonna get their way all the time, 326 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: knowing full well that nothing's gonna be appealed. We're gonna 327 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: have a lot of really bad decisions enshrined in criminal 328 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: law here, Signal ninety nine. 329 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and we're seeing it, We've been seeing it, 330 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: and now it's only gonna get worse because once Connie 331 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: Pitts took off this, she got rid, immediately got rid 332 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: of a ton of veteran process sketers that were worth 333 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: their weight in gold, and then a whole bunch more 334 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: fled because they did not want to work for her. 335 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, what's the first case 336 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: Connie Pillot's ever prosecuted herself? Brian, No, No, never, No, 337 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: she just recently showed up. 338 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Oh, she finally did. 339 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: For Jacob Goodwin. But she only showed up because a 340 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: reporter that talked to me at four o'clock in the 341 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 2: morning called Sharon Coolidge, her PIO, and said, hey, you 342 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: guys aren't even put in a notice that you're going 343 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: to appear on this. Are you not going to appear 344 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: on this? All the media is going to be there. Well, 345 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: Connie Pillets said, oh my god, all the media is 346 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: going to be there. I better go, I better go, 347 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: and we better you know, deny this, We better fight 348 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: this early release request. So she did. That's the only 349 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: case till it has ever prosecuted in her life. 350 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: Well, sadly, the voters knew that when they elected her. 351 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: Isn't that a shocking reality? I mean, it was widely circulated. 352 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean she did have a challenger for prosecutors, widely known. 353 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: I knew it at the time. She was not an 354 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: experienced prosecutor. She didn't have the requisite experience one would 355 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: expect someone who's running for that office to have. 356 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: No, and she doesn't have the experience to stay in 357 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: the office. Because right now everything's a plea deal. Everything's 358 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: a plea deal. I'm not going to call her the 359 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: com anymore. I'm going to rename her the Princess and 360 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: the plea. So she just she can't handle the responsibility 361 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: that the office demands. She's afraid to go to trial. 362 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: She's afraid to lose. She doesn't want to take that loss. 363 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: She's terrified she's not going to be endorsed for reelection. 364 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: So right now it's all about just take the plea. 365 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: Take the plea. The problem is a lot of these 366 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: plea deals are murders. 367 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: Yes they're murdered. Well, okay, they got problem cause they 368 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: got an indictment. The guys in front of a judge, 369 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: presumably they have sufficient evidence to convince a jury or 370 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: the try of fact to judge that there's guilty on 371 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: a reasonable doubt. You don't have it. You don't have it, 372 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, but you've got to move forward and try people. 373 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't get a guilty verdict, sometimes not guilty. 374 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: That goes with the territory. There's some really damn good 375 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: defense attorneys out there that can create the illusion even 376 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: of reasonable doubt in the jury. It happens. So you 377 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: lost one, but you got to move forward with it. 378 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: Exactly. And look, I mean, I look at the case 379 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: with Kevin Nary Okay, Yeah. 380 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: I always wanted to talk about that, so that's a 381 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: good pivot point. 382 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevinnary murdered, literally murdered by Earl Jones, which, by 383 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: the way, sidebar, I got two death threats this week 384 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: from Kevin Nary fans. So and then I got a 385 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: couple of people to squawk it about out how wrong 386 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: I was about the post. But I truly enjoyed the 387 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 2: death threats from Earl Jones's loved ones and homies, so 388 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: keep them coming because they don't bother me. But anyways, 389 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: Kevin Nary gets murdered. The jury finds him, finds Earl 390 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: Jones guilty, and they give him life without parole. Okay, 391 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: And he keeps appealing, keeps appealing, keeps the appealing, he 392 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: keeps losing his appeals. He comes up now, just this 393 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: month and Toohnnie's signed with the plea deal. Let's just 394 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: give him eighteen years and let's give him time served. 395 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: So he's got eight more years to do on murder, 396 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: on a racially motivated, premeditated murder. I'm sorry, eighteen years 397 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: isn't enough, and eight more years is certainly not enough. 398 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous to me and she goes into this big 399 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: diet tribe of bet how the laws have changed, and 400 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: you know it would be hard to get another conviction. No, 401 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: it wouldn't. You have all of the evidence that came 402 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: through the first time at trial. You've still got the witnesses, 403 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: you've still got the detective. I mean, come on, it's 404 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: just a lame excuse for I don't want to take 405 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: a chance and lose and look like the inep prosecutor 406 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: that I am. That's what it's all about. Huh, she's 407 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: a sinking shit. 408 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: Brian, Hey, what was that? Hold on? I just had 409 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: to hit the dump button on you. 410 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: On me. 411 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: Didn't you say the S word? 412 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: No, I said, she's a sinking shit. 413 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: Oh well, then I inadvertently it's you know, it's better 414 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: to be safe than sorry Signal ninety nine, because I 415 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: had someone very recently literally use the S word on 416 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: the Morning show, which I can't I can't abide. So 417 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: my apologies for folks out there like what happened. So 418 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: I just deleted a of minutes worth of your commentary 419 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: leading up to what I thought was in an inappropriate 420 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: word use. And I know you well enough that I 421 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: shouldn't have just sort of defaulted to hearing that. But 422 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: in these days with modern discourse, quite often people sprinkle 423 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: their language with saucy FCC non compliant language. That was 424 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: what I thought was going on there, So my apologies 425 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: to you for that. 426 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: That's okay. I would never do that to you. 427 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: I know you wouldn't. But then again, like I said, 428 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: my reaction is to hit it. In a minute. I 429 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: suspect something's been has gone awry here. But what was 430 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: the I mean, the Neary family pleaded with the judge 431 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: not to grant the plea deal, so they were upset 432 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: about it. What was the predicate for sort of unringing 433 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: the bell of a lifetime conviction? Was evidence? With hell? 434 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: What was the basis upon which they did that? 435 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: No, they you know, they tried to say that the 436 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: self defense laws had changed. You got to remember he 437 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: murdered this This nineteen year old kid, jumped in his 438 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: car that was idling with the door open waiting for him, 439 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: drove off and called nine to one one and said, hey, 440 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: I just shot but in self defense. Well, the jury 441 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: saw through that, the detective saw through that, everybody few 442 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: through it. So this time around, Connie Polst says, well, 443 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: you know, with some of the changes in our laws 444 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: with self defense, it would be hard to prove, uh, 445 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: you know that it was murdered. No, it wouldn't. You 446 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 2: still have the text messages, you still have all the 447 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: witnesses of you know, Kevin Neary's workplace where Earl Jones 448 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: showed up and tried to fight him and try to 449 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: get him fired. You you know, there's all these things, 450 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: there's all this evidence. It was. It was a solid case, 451 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: and they did their jobs and they put this guy 452 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: where he belonged, life without parole. But Connie Pillach she 453 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 2: didn't want to She didn't want to gamble that. She 454 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: doesn't want to take that loss. So she wasn't willing 455 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: to risk it. And and this isn't the first homicide 456 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: she's done this on. We're seeing that consistency in her 457 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: pleating down serious felonies. Why, I mean, look at Elwood Jones, 458 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: she didn't even try it. We'll go back against Selwood Jones. So, 459 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: you know, will this lat murderers walk free and give 460 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: lifetime without parole murderers, you know, eight more years to 461 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: do and they'll be young enough when they get out 462 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: to kill somebody else if they want to it just 463 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: it boggles my mind. 464 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: Well, I guess I would want to know in what 465 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: way the laws Ohio self defense statutes have changed the 466 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: fact that it would impact this particular case. She did 467 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: not articulate or explain specifically what she meant by that, 468 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: saying only Ohio self defense statutes have changed, and the 469 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: new provisions will make it more difficult to secure a 470 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: new conviction against Earl Jones. What's specifically changed, given all 471 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: the witnesses and the specifics of the underlying fact set, 472 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how any change in the self defense 473 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: so I might modify the outcome in front of a jury. 474 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: It wouldn't. That's the whole point. It wouldn't. The whole 475 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: thing is a big smoke show. It's like, oh no, 476 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: you don't understand. You know, we had to do this 477 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: to ensure we could put them away for eight more years. 478 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: First of all, who came up with eighteen years? 479 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 480 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: Second of all, what about the judge. The judge didn't 481 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: have to give him eighteen years. She could have. 482 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: Said, no, right, right, right, right right? That is an 483 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: important thing. 484 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: Give them time served. 485 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is an important point. The judges do not 486 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: have to agree with anything necessarily the prosecutor or the 487 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: defendant entered into They have their own discretion in that regard. 488 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: She could have said, no, it's twenty or it's you know, 489 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: thirty or whatever. I mean, that's the judicial discretion. 490 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: He also didn't have to give them time served. Why 491 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: did she give them time served? Judge Talent gave them 492 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: time served? 493 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 494 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: Why? I mean, who does this benefit? Certainly not the victim, 495 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: not the family of the victim, not society. I mean, 496 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: I just can't wrap my head around it. 497 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Brian, I can't either. I can't either. Well, we'll get 498 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: one more segment with you Signal ninety nine here this 499 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: morning on the fifty five Krssey Morning Show, and I'll 500 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: look forward to that. Stick around. Be right back fifty 501 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: five KRC. It's eighteen here at above kr City Talk station. 502 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Thomas was Signal ninety nine again. Facebook's a place 503 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: to find Signal ninety nine of the things that she 504 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: reports and writes on which we're talking about here this morning, 505 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: mostly involving well, like I said, I like to call 506 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: it shenanigans, but I'm just I'm still swirling and reeling 507 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: from that whole Connie Pillach terminating the prosecutor for literally 508 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: no reason. Linda Scott no longer has a job because 509 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: apparently she didn't get along with one of her fellow prosecutors, 510 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: had a disagreement of about peeling poor judicial rulings. Side 511 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: nine nine. I didn't realize we had an obligation for 512 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: the function of the prospect who's Alvis, to actually always 513 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: get along with people we work with. Anyway, we got 514 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: three people cited this involving the Hamilton Kenny courthouse chaos melee. 515 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: A fight broke out and I worked there for a 516 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: long time when I was younger, and I don't recall 517 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: this ever happening. Has this become a common occurrence because 518 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,959 Speaker 1: I know, I think that the judges are asking for 519 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: more security in the courthouse. What's the backstory on this? 520 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: And where's your Shenanigan's declaration coming from on this one? 521 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine. 522 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: Okay, First, they need to preface something by telling you 523 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: one of my screen names on Facebook is Sena Anagan. 524 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: Oh that's good. 525 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's that, you know, after my original account 526 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: got banned. But I just thought that's funny. So people 527 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: call me Shenanigan. They used to perfect So this is 528 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: not new. This is something that's been happening more and 529 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: more frequently. You know, the courthouse clears out, they start 530 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: fighting in the hallways, and pretty much nobody holds them accountable. 531 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you something. I understand. Tensions 532 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: are high when you have the victim's family and you 533 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: have the defendant's family and they're all, you know, looking 534 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: hard at each other and they're all upset. I nobody 535 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: understands that better than people that work within the criminal justices, 536 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: and they understand it. However, it's unacceptable to become violent. 537 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: Silence is never the answer. You don't get a free path. 538 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you something else, that these judges would 539 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: start holding every single one of them and contempt and 540 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: throwing them in for thirty days. That would stop immediately, immediately. 541 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: And you know, people keep reporting no officers were injured. 542 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: That's not true. That's not true at all. There were 543 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 2: several officers and deputies that were hit. There was a 544 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: CPD officer that had to file a work comp claim. 545 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: So wherever they're getting their information, which I saw a 546 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: spokesperson say that no officers were injured, that's not true. 547 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: Well I read this morning that three people and one 548 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: juvenile were cited for disorderly conduct involving that melee. None 549 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: of them were cited for assaulting a police officer. 550 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, why were they cited at all? Well, no, 551 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: they should have just immediately been sent straight to jail 552 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: or juvenile for contempt. 553 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: A court agreed that would be a great remedy and 554 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: it would serve as an illustration anybody else who might 555 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: consider fighting that you were going to go straight to 556 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: the jail, do not pass go. That would abeviate some 557 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: of the need to add additional law enforcement personnel if 558 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: you have very strict judges. And this was done in 559 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: the presence of law enforcement, wasn't it. I mean, weren't 560 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: there like officers or or SHARE's deputies right there. 561 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you all county broadcasts went out that 562 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: officers needed assistance. So everybody went, I mean, CPD went, 563 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: all the sheriffs just went. There were several officers in 564 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: court from CPD, There were several detectives, there were court 565 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: services people that are in playing clothes, and there were 566 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: you know, keep the deputies in uniform. Of course, Yeah, 567 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: I know, I know that other courtrooms were affected by 568 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 2: it because their deputies had to secure the prisoner that 569 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: they had in the courtroom at the time so that 570 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: they could go help. So other courtrooms were affected by 571 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: it as well. It wasn't just Judge Winckler's courtroom, it 572 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: was several courtrooms were affected. So this behavior is not okay. 573 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: It should not be condoned. And you want to nip 574 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: it in the butt, like stop this because it's become common. 575 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: It's happened several times over the last year. It just 576 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: put a stop to it. 577 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, but you got to pivot over to 578 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: the criminal justice system at large. That's the point. People 579 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: need to be punished when they commit crimes. If you 580 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: stop punishing people and when they commit crimes, guess what 581 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: word gets out. This is a soft on crime County. 582 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: You can get away with it. Look what Connie Pillach 583 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: is doing or not doing. Look what these liberal judges 584 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: are doing or not doing, as the case may be. Yes, 585 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: we need to stop this, and the way you stop 586 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: it is get tough on it. That's how the criminal 587 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: justice system works. Whether it's people fighting in the courtroom. Hey, 588 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: you know ahead of time you're gonna get sent to 589 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: jail or that you know, if you punch somebody or 590 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: shoot somebody, you know you're gonna do a hard stretch 591 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: of time. That's the penalty you pay. Let the word 592 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: get out. 593 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: Well yeah, but right now, you know Cincinnati crime pays. 594 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: You don't do you don't do serious time unless you 595 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: kill somebody. Well even then, g you might get a 596 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: plea deal for eighteen years. Who knows, you know what else? 597 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: You know what else pays Signal ninety nine. Being in 598 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: a in a position of leadership, Like if you're police chief, 599 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna pay. Like if you're the fire chief, that's 600 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna pay. Or if you were a prosecutor who was 601 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: dismissed because well they just didn't get along, that's going 602 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: to pay too. 603 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that all these lawsuits flying around and more 604 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: to come. I guarantee you this is just the beginning. 605 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 2: Oh you know, yes, it's just going to keep continuing. 606 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 2: And the sad thing is that there are several judges 607 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: up for reelection this year, really hard left leaning judges 608 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: that care more about social work than they do about justice, 609 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 2: and they're running unopposed. They're going to be re elected. 610 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know what Hamilton County is doing, 611 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: but they're not running anybody against these judges. And of 612 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: course it's too late now, but what is happening like 613 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: we're just going to give up, We're just going to 614 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: say this is it. We're just going to have to 615 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: live with, you know, lawlessness forever because we're just turning 616 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: everything over to the extremely far left. I'll tell you something, 617 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with you, Democrat. I can't 618 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: stand the far left and I can't stand the far right. Yeah, 619 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 2: there's no room for them in criminal justice. I'm sorry, there's. 620 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: Just not Well, you know what's frightening is it's either 621 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: one there's a failure of party leadership. And this is 622 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: a county thing here, right, we're talking about These are 623 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: judges that are voted on the entire county. You stand 624 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: a better chance as a conservative or Republican or somebody 625 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: who might make it on the pink slip in the 626 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: county more so than the city. But if it's not 627 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: just party leadership, can't go out. And maybe it's maybe 628 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: it's that nobody that with the law a law degree 629 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: wants to even bother running for judge because they face 630 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: the criticism they face death threats, they face crazy people 631 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: beating each other up in the courtroom. You know what, 632 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't sign up for that job, Signal ninety nine. 633 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: And maybe that's the sorry state of affairs we found 634 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: ourselves in Hamilton County, that it's gone full woke. The 635 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: woke people aren't going to get attacked. The Conservatives are 636 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: people tough on crime, are ergo. No one wants to 637 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: do that role. You think there's anything connected with that 638 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: signal ninety nine or is just for want of party 639 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: leaders to get people rounded up and to run for 640 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: these uncontested positions. 641 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'll answer that in a second. The saddest thing 642 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 2: for me is that many of these judges, prosecutors, sheriffs, 643 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 2: city council members, mayor they pander to the black community. 644 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: They make all these promises and they use the black 645 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: community to get themselves elected and re elected, and then 646 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: you know what happens nothing crickets. Who are the people 647 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 2: being victimized the hardest by violent crime in Hamta County 648 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 2: and in the city of Cincinnati. I'll tell you it's 649 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: the black community all day long. You know, these communities, 650 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 2: it's not their fault. I mean Nobody told them, hey, 651 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: if you keep voting this judge, and nothing's going to 652 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 2: happen to these criminals when they come through the court. 653 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 2: It's just it's tragic to me that people don't understand 654 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 2: that elections have confortation. 655 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: Yeah they do. 656 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 2: And I don't want to become Chicago and I don't 657 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: want to become Portland. You know, it's just common sense. 658 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: What they're doing doesn't work, So stop letting them do it. 659 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: Full stop, exclamation point in bold and cavs Sigle ninety nine. 660 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time on the show this morning. And 661 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: confirmation from someone I know is in the know. They 662 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: can't find folks to run Sadly, I know this firsthand. 663 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: So maybe that is the sad reality we're living with. 664 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: We can't find tough on crime judges to even run 665 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: that scary stuff