1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:02,519 Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: Peng was with a monstrous win yesterday at home against Boston, 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: rallying from three yeeld down to win in overtime. I 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: hate to jump the Steelers to the front of the 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: line with the Pittman news and the Gainwell news and 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: the Samuel news and the James Pierre news and the 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Hulcombe news, because it's all leading to ten and seven 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: and a first round exit again. And anybody who'd like 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: to bet a noisy couple grand on that, come a colin. 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: You can follow me on Twitter at Mark Madex. Let's 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: join now by Tommy Football. Tom what's your take on 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 2: getting Pittman again. He's not a number one receiver, he's 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: twenty eight years old. It's another move for right now 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: and we're not even true who the quarterback is. 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it's a good move. He's a good player. 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: He's twenty eight years old, going to be twenty nine, 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: so there's still some runway there. You could think that 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: he still has some prime years left. As you said, 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: his prime years are as a number two wide receiver. 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: So now they have two number two wide receivers. But 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: I think most people don't view it like you and 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: I do with DK Metcalf, and I certainly don't think 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 3: the Steers. 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: They think he's the number one. He's just not a 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: number one. 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: I agree. 27 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: The reason Seattle got rid of him is because they 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: know what a number one looks like. 29 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: It's Smith and the Jig both right. And they knew 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: they didn't need. 31 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 2: Metcalf given his baggage, which certainly reared its ugly head, 32 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: you know when he smacked the guy in Detroit. But 33 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: but you know, you know, stuff like that aside the dumbness, 34 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: neither one's the number one receiver, and I think you 35 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: need one for that McCarthy offense. 36 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: I think you need one period. 37 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: I think if you're bringing back Grandpa game manager, he 38 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: needs all the help he can get. 39 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: And just like how Seattle told you about DK Metcalf, 40 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: how he's not a true number one, Indy kind of 41 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: telling you the same thing with how they handled free agency. Right, 42 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: they go out and they re up with Alec Pierce 43 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: one hundred and sixteen million dollars I believe was the 44 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: deal for him. They bring him back, he's clearly their 45 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: target for a number one wide receiver, and then they 46 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: move on for Michael Pittman. So these former team are 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: letting us know what they think we're getting their rejects. 48 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean they may be rejects on a very 49 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: subtle we got a better guy level, but they're rejects. 50 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: Nonetheless, they're making too much money right now for a 51 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: number two wide receiver Dk Metcalf. Certainly is you overpay 52 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: a little bit for a guy like Pittman? Whatever twenty 53 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: million per year and I don't know about that, but 54 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: it's not DK money. DK's egregious. 55 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: Oh, DK's getting quarterback money. Egregious. 56 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: Yes, at that price, he should throw to himself. Now, 57 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: who's the quarterback? I mean Pittman got traded for he's 58 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: not a free agent. But did he come here not 59 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: knowing who the quarterback is? And it won't be Malik 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: Willis because he signed with Miami. 61 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: Right. 62 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: Every time an option disappears with Rogers having not decided it, it, well, 63 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: it pisses me off and it makes the Steelers again 64 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: look so weak. 65 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: And so often don't you see these options go by 66 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: and you see, like I think, Millik Willis got forty 67 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: five million guaranteed, and look, he's only had like one 68 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: good game in the NFL to get that. That's nuts, 69 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: But that's still not insane to me. I mean it's 70 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: not you know, it's more than justin Field's money, but 71 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: it's still not you know, crazy amounts. So and with 72 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: the wide receiver market for the past couple years, I 73 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: feel like we kept seeing these trades go by and 74 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: it'd be like, oh, that guy went for a fourth 75 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: round pick, that guy went for a fifth round pick, 76 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: and it's just like, there are gettable players that can 77 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: help move this franchise forward that they just decide that 78 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: they don't want to go out and get. And you know, 79 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 3: who knows if Milie Willison is going to be great 80 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: or not. But I would rather take the swing at 81 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: someone like that than running it back with forty three 82 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: year old That. 83 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Would rather Rogers telling me what he's going to do 84 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: right now. They didn't have to, you know, just let Willis. 85 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: I mean not that they would have gone, they wouldn't have. 86 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: Paid will I don't think they wanted that, No, yeah. 87 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: But but it's just And somebody said, Flacco is another 88 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: option of quarterbacks if Rogers retires. 89 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they can't be serious, can they. 90 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: Well, that's the option where you wait for Rogers until 91 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: end of May early June, and he decides to burn 92 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: you and say I'm going to retire, and then that's 93 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: all you have left, right is a Joe Flacco the 94 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: only one that would possibly be left on the scrap 95 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: heap to go get. So I could absolutely see them 96 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: pivoting there if Rogers does burn them eventually after a 97 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: couple of months of waiting. 98 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: Would you have rather had James Pierre re up than 99 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: a Sante Samuel Junior? That trump is a bit weird 100 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: given Samuel's short tenure. Then again, we got a new coach. 101 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sante Samuel was better than James Pierre before he got. 102 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 1: That injury, new defensive coordinator too, new defense. 103 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: He just was a better player, like a Santa Samuel 104 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: is a legit number two corner in this fair enough, 105 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: but he got hurt, and who knows that he's ever 106 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: going to be that way again, and he, you know, 107 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 3: test run last year, passed it. So he gets the 108 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: one year, four million dollar deal, but I think there's 109 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: still a ceiling higher on him. They got to draft 110 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: that position, though, and I would have loved to see 111 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: them attack that position more aggressively in free agency with 112 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: a more top end player to be the number two. 113 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: Do you agree with my assessment that the inside backers 114 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: are overrated and maybe Cole Holcomb should play ahead of 115 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Payton Wilson. 116 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: I think they're overrated, and I guess co Hulton can 117 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: play ahead of Payton Wilson, but I think they're both 118 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: kind of disappointing. Cole Holcomb is just I don't think 119 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: any good and Wilson's been a disappointment. 120 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: Was to be he got hurt, had that one real 121 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: good season. 122 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: And then he got hurt in the middle of the year. Yeah, 123 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: but he just hasn't been the same. And I don't 124 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: know Manyton. 125 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: Wilson just runs his big fat Yeah, Roe's the best, 126 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: the best cover inside backer. And I saw a Scott 127 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: and report like they on lot and I know who 128 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: knows who's who's making those the criteria, but but but 129 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: said he's just. 130 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Terrible at coverage. 131 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: Well, the only person who believes he's good as him, well, 132 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: the only person who talks about it anyway. 133 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: Well, I remember too, he said that in training camp, 134 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: and then in the preseason game to follow he gets 135 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: like burned on a route for a touchdown and it's like, oh, 136 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: it's preseason, but that ended up being an omen for 137 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: what was to come. He he's been very disappointing. They 138 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: tucked him up so much. He was a player, talked 139 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: himself up so much, and the Steelers did too. Like 140 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: coming out of college, you know, this guy one defensive 141 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: Player of the year, the college version of it at 142 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: NC State had the injury history. But if he gets 143 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: over that, he could be a diamond in the rough. 144 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: And he's just in the rough. 145 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Pittman thing, getting back to that, 146 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: I mean it's a good get. I just it's another 147 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: right now, you know, get over the top. Ex They 148 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: can't even see the top from where they're at. I mean, 149 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: they're gonna finish third in the division. I think if 150 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: Jackson and Burrough both stay healthy. I mean, you want 151 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: to make a splash move, get Max Crossby like the 152 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ons didn't. 153 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 3: You can't evaluate the Pittman move either. Because of what 154 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: we just discussed. There's no quarterback yet. We have no 155 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: idea who the quarterback is. It's the same thing that's 156 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: last year that we were stuck in. It's just like, 157 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: oh we got DK Metcalf, that's great. Who throws him 158 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: the ball. Now, probably Rogers sat answer keeps. 159 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: Saying over and over again, they told Benny couldn't play 160 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: no more. They told Troy couldn't play no more. They 161 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: told heins he couldn't play no more. They cut friggin' 162 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: Frank O'harris, one of the top three players in franchise 163 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: history in terms of impact, and they just wait and 164 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: wait and wait for a guy who's barely been here. 165 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: Rogers is like a cult leader. He has some kind 166 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: of magnetic poll he does, no he does. I'm not 167 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: kidding that interview we do with McAfee. I mean it 168 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: was like an alien, like somebody from another planet wanting 169 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: to come. 170 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: Here and start a kingdom. 171 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: The Ben part is so bizarre to me too, because 172 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: that was this ownership, Like, this was this group that 173 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: you know, was like, hey, it's time fest to move 174 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: on Ben Roethlisberger. So like the other ones that you cited, 175 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: there was other ownership influence there with the de Troy 176 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, but this was this owner like 177 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: he did that to Ben? Why why wait for Rogers? 178 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: They just believe he's the best option, and this year 179 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 3: that's just simply not the case. 180 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 5: Well, well, Willis? I mean, who else now that Willis 181 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 5: is Murray? Murray's better option, but he's going to Minnesota. 182 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 5: That seems like dundee. I think so too. 183 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: You know, whenever I look at a big offseason move 184 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: for football team, tom, here's how I judge it. Do 185 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: I think this team will do better this year than 186 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: the last because of who they got. I look at 187 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: Max Crosby going to Baltimore. I think, yeah, that's an 188 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: impact kind of move. I look at Michael Pittman going 189 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: to the Steelers, I say, well, you know, okay, maybe, 190 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: but maybe not who's throwing him. 191 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: The ball exactly. 192 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: That's the That's the big part right there, is we 193 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: don't know who the quarterback is right now to evaluate. 194 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Even if I knew it. 195 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: Was Rogers, I'm not sure that this makes the team 196 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: appreciably better. 197 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: Let's assume it is, right. 198 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: I think Alec Pierce, who Indy retained, would have made 199 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: the team significantly better. 200 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: I think he's trending up to becoming potentially a number 201 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: one wide receiver. I don't know if he's there yet, 202 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: but I think Indy c is that and they would 203 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: rather have. 204 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: Him legit deep threat though and combat catches and they're 205 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: lacking that big time. Yeah, and well Pittman's good at 206 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: that physical Yeah, Tom, only in Pittsburgh. I heard somebody 207 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: a caller on another show talking about how great Pittman 208 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: wasn't blocking only in f ing Pittsburgh. 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Here's an. 226 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: Pittman's numbers last year with Daniel Jones, Philip Rivers, and 227 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: Riley Leonard a quarterback, were better than all of the 228 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: receivers behind Metcalf combined. 229 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: Tom, who would you rather have a quarterback Daniel Jones 230 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: or Aaron Rodgers? Daniel Jones And it's not even cool 231 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: even after hurting. 232 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: His acl like, coming off of that injury, I'd still 233 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: rather choose Daniel Jones. 234 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: Gamble on that. 235 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 236 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: Kabali says Rogers is going to decide this week. He 237 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: said that last week he said that the year before, Mom, 238 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: how long do we get there? Twenty more minutes? 239 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: Uh? 240 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: Yoey likes the Pittman trade, but he kind of echoed 241 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: with kabali tweet it had been the victim of some 242 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: bad QB playing, which is why his numbers aren't eye popping. Well, 243 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: Michael Pittman, if you think your numbers are gonna be 244 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: eye popping, here, I'm afraid I've got some bad news. 245 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: Tom. 246 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: I was at Bob's Diner Carnegie today and there are 247 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: a bunch of old guys in there, and I'm old, 248 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: but older than me, And one guy asked, we will 249 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: have the Pirates were gonna be this year? And another 250 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: old guy at different table said I'm afraid I've got 251 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: some bad news. It was like with with the with 252 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: the with the emphasis, with the Wade Barret thing. It 253 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: was just delightful. Gotta talk Penguins. Penguins are one oh 254 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: and one with both Sid and Gino out and three 255 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: two and two would sit out that since the Olympic break, 256 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 2: and that's acceptable, and the Penguins got guts for days. 257 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: We saw that yesterday and the comeback win over Boston. 258 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: But now you're on the road at Carolina, at Vegas, 259 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: at Utah, at Colorado, at Carolina again, and that ain't 260 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: gonna be easy. Maybe Sid goes on the trip, maybe 261 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: he plays. Maybe they're working the boys. Look he's on 262 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: the play and he might play. Just hold on, he'll 263 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: be back. And maybe it goes bad. 264 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: But maybe the. 265 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: Penguins can tiptoe through this because they just won't go away. 266 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: That win yesterday might have been a season saver. It 267 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: sure felt like it. Five for and overtime over Boston. 268 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: Kind of a bogie team, and after trailing three nil, 269 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: Mantha got a couple, Chinakov got it started with a 270 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: five on three power play goal helped to finish it, 271 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: driving into the net Novak put in the loose pucket overtime. 272 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: Carlson set a pick on the overtime goal. Should have 273 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: been called for interference, but it's good to see the 274 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: Penguins get a call or in this case, a non call. 275 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: Carlson had another great game. He has turned into vintage 276 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: Eric Carlson in the absence of Mike Sullivan. And that's 277 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: the reason why for sure, because carl I mean, I 278 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: don't think Sully can him from playing the way he wanted, 279 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: but Carlson just didn't like him. And I look at 280 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: the New York Rangers and they're placed in the standings. 281 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: I'd rather have Carlson at least right now do We'? 282 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: Had this insane spinner Rooney backhand goal and the Penguins 283 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: defended by the skin of their teeth and the seat 284 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: of their pants, dives and pokes and blocks and body 285 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: it all added up. 286 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: It was a great game. 287 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: The Penguins are in second in the Metro and five 288 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: points safe in a playoff berth and it looks pretty. 289 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Good, my boy. 290 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: They could win a shootout, but they lost one to 291 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: Philly at home on Saturday. 292 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: They're one to nine shootouts. 293 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: Can't win draws, have a losing record at home, and 294 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: all that adds up to a recipe for no playoffs. 295 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: The power play has been in massive decline without SID, 296 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: but nonetheless they just won't go away. It's one heck 297 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 2: of a story, and SID will be back at some point. 298 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: I think in twenty more minutes. Shut up, we'll get there. 299 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: Let's talk to Tommy Hockey. Tom was that game a 300 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: season saver or does it get flushed on this extremely 301 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: difficult road trip. 302 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess there's the potential for it to 303 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: get flushed, but it really felt like a season saver 304 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: in the moment. It was feeling so grim halfway through 305 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: that second period and Bruins going up three to nothing, 306 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: but the Penguins throwing that heart and showing that fight. 307 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 3: It gives you optimism for this road trip that they 308 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: won't just let it get completely flushed, because, as you 309 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: just laid out, there's a ton of reasons why they 310 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: should have let this slip away already and they just 311 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 3: refuse to do. 312 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: So. 313 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: You know what, it'd be great if they could pull 314 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: out a win tomorrow night at Carolina to lead it off. Yeah, 315 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: and then you're within six points of them, and that 316 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: would be added adrenaline, however, probably false. And then you're 317 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: playing with house money. If you can just win two 318 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: games or get four points on this trip, that would 319 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: be enough I think to hang in there. What turned 320 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: that game around, Tom, I felt like it was that 321 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: do Or goal when a fourth lineter, it's a spin 322 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: a roony goal like that to make it three to two, 323 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: to pull within one after being down by three. I 324 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: think it gets your bench going and kind of makes 325 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: the other teams say, hey, what just happened. 326 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: And then Amantha scores like thirty seconds later and then 327 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: the game's tied, so their heads spinning even more. Yeah, 328 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: they needed to make it three to two. When the 329 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: third period started, it was desperation time to get that 330 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: next goal. You go down four to one. It was 331 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: pretty much lights out and I don't want to minimize 332 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: what Chinakov did towards the end of the second period though, 333 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: and they were on a five on three. If you 334 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: don't score their mark, then it was definitely gonna go 335 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: over that. Yeah, so big for getting that goal on 336 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: that five on three. 337 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: And he drove the net with the puck on the 338 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: game winner. 339 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: He's just I was gonna say everything we expect him 340 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,479 Speaker 2: to be, but he's about ten times what we expected 341 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: Igor Chinnakov to be. Amantha with a couple of goals, 342 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: he now has twenty three on a one year deal. 343 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: He's gone, so they're not going to pay him. They 344 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: probably shouldn't. I think this year's probably not liar, more 345 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: of a last gas. Well he's not that old, but 346 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't. I would let him go with 347 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: the clar conscious and good luck to him. But still, 348 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: that's a lot of goals and they're all in tight, 349 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: all trafficky, and that's weird because Mantha is six to 350 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: five tom but he doesn't play big. 351 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: He plays it. He's a lot more finessey than big. 352 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: Plays a skill game. Yeah, and two game tying goals 353 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: yesterday against Boston, just kept tying ties it at three, 354 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: ties it at four. Like he has been such a 355 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: revelation and he's what has been going right for the 356 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: Penguins in a lot of areas. It's just guys are 357 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to say, having career years like Mantha 358 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: might be having, but pretty damn close to it, or 359 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: playing really to the closest to their potential that they 360 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: possibly can at this point, if not for some of 361 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: these guys exceeding it somewhat. I mean, even a guy 362 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: like Carlson returning back to Norris forim is insane. 363 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mantha looks like a no check Men's League version 364 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: of Kevin Stevens. I could see him in Kessel on 365 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: the same line someday at ice Castle out in Castle Shannon. 366 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: Even the overtime goal was weird, A loose puck goal. 367 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: You don't see many of those in three on three 368 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: and Carlson said. 369 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: An obvious pick. Yeah it was. It was like, I 370 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: think that might have even got called the NBA. 371 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 3: But if you're going to overtime now as the Penguins, 372 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. As far as 373 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: I'm concerned, it's everything possible to get this five now 374 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: and three on three over, to get the goal in 375 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: the five minutes, that's everything I have to There's no 376 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: question about it. There was even a party that was like, 377 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: when the game was tied against Philly, do you pull 378 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: the goalie in the offensive zone and go four four 379 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: on three just because. 380 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: Well, you lose the loser points, I know, but. 381 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: If you got up an empty net or in overtime, 382 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: you lose the loser point. That's why in Russia feder 383 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: Off coaches the Red Army team in the KHL, and 384 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: he does that when they get possession and three three, 385 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: he pulls the goalie and it works more often than not. 386 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: How about the six eight guy, Solderblum. I wish the 387 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: Penguins were playing the Nuggets on this road trip and 388 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: not the Avalanche. 389 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: He could post up against Jok. 390 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see him, though, I mean a week 391 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: to a wing with that size, see how he does 392 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: get once he gets settled in with Pittsburgh. I mean, 393 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: if anything, and Kyle shone things, but if anything, he's 394 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: shown an eye for kind of these you know, forgotten 395 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: players and other franchises that still might have some potential. 396 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's no doubt that the Penguin cy Sawder 397 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: blew him differently than the Wings gad and uh and 398 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: or maybe the Red. 399 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: Wings liked him. 400 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: It just felt it wasn't working, and he gave him 401 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 2: a change of scenery and got a draft pick in return. 402 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: It's the same principle as trading for Chinnikov, although not 403 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: every deal is going to hit like that. In fact, 404 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: very few will who's the number one goalie right now 405 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: tom And if they started the playoffs tomorrow, would you 406 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 2: stick with the rotation which nobody does in the playoffs, 407 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 2: or would you pick somebody. 408 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 3: I might be tempted to stick with the rotation even 409 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: though nobody does it. But they've just been so staunch 410 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: on sticking Effe. Except for a couple of stretches this year, 411 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 3: I don't think either of them are playing particularly better 412 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: goalie right now. 413 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: Shifs. 414 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Skinner had that hot run right after he came 415 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: over to Edmonton, and he's played okay since, but only 416 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: okay shilloffs. If we could just eliminate our memory of 417 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: how bad he is in shootouts, I think we'd think 418 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: he's having a great year. 419 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 3: And he bounced back Yesterday's big time after being down 420 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: three to zero. I mean, he made some huge saves 421 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: late in that game. Columbus worries me. Columbus is on 422 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: a ten to one and two run. I was talking 423 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: to a local hockey insider, see I can use that 424 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 3: term two insider, and he said he doesn't expect it 425 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 3: to continue. But that's a that's thirteen games where they've 426 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 3: just been the best team in the league, and their 427 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: top scores were Renski, a defenseman twenty goals in sixty 428 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: five points in fifty five games. And them doing so 429 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: well with the defenseman being a top scorer, and we're 430 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: Rensky's really good. 431 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: I'm not minimizing that. Yeah, but that means it's tough 432 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: to know who's gonna do it. They're tough to get 433 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: a beat on in terms of who you have to stop, 434 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 2: you know. 435 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: I bet people were saying about a month ago the 436 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: same thing about the Savers, right like, oh, this will 437 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: slow down, right, they won't be this red hot for 438 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 3: the remainder of the season. And I don't think that 439 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 3: the Jackets are the Savers. I think the Savers are 440 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: a much better team than Columbus. But it's not a 441 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: guarantee that a team that's just you know, red hot 442 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: on a crazy run will just all of a sudden 443 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: cool down, because that's just the natural ebb and flow 444 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: of things. Usually it could just ride this all the 445 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: way into the playoffs. Columbus is a serious worry. 446 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, Although it's worth noting that the Islanders 447 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: could fade. I'm not sure they're that good. Then again, 448 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure Schaeffer, the rookie on defense will permit that. 449 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: And they gave up way too much for Shan. I mean, 450 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 3: that was a ridiculous movie. I don't think it helps 451 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: Crazy move that much. New Jersey's won a bunch in 452 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: a row, but I think it's too late for them. Yeah, 453 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: I have sixty six points. 454 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: Well, staying with Buffalo, they're in first place now, two 455 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: points out of Tampa in the Atlantic and they beat 456 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: Tampa eight seven yesterday and what is probably the game 457 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: of the year. And like you said, Tom, I get 458 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: why the Sabers are where they are. They got Tompson 459 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: up front and just a great defensive court. I think 460 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: they will come to be glad Pareco turned them down. 461 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: I just don't think they needed him. 462 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: I think they're good enough on defense, and they have, 463 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: like Sockers scored big goals for them. 464 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: Opportunistic. 465 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: You know, when Thompson's one of the top I don't know, 466 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: top ten forwards anyway in hockey. 467 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: Always loves a When he was here for the Penguins, 468 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: I just thought, you know, the team wasn't good. 469 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: To Mason Zucker's right. 470 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 3: Team was wasn't good enough for a player like him. 471 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: I love him on the Penguins. Now, he'd be perfect 472 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: on the Penguins this year, but he's great for the Sabers. 473 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: And you're right about the defense they're built through that. 474 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: Do you think if Parreco said yes, there's a chance, 475 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: they would have moved like a power to I. 476 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: Think it would have been power. I think that was 477 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: the peace going going back. 478 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: And I mean, I can see why they'd want Paraco 479 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: because he's big and as good as their defense is, 480 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: he would have provided an element at six to six 481 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: that they don't have. But I'm a big Owen Power fan, 482 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: and I know he's the least of their young defenseman 483 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: in terms of how he's developed, but he's still very 484 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: good and I think it'll eventually come better. 485 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 3: And that's what you built your team around. Let the 486 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: young guys that gays that you built up yourself kind 487 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: of get it, get their first chance at least in 488 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: the playoffs before you decide that it's not right. 489 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: Let's see the Devils. Well, the Devils lost yesterday. 490 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: I think it was the Detroit got shut out. 491 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: They had won four in a row. And how far 492 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: are they out of a playoff spot? 493 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: They are? Oh, they're way back there poicts behind the 494 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 2: Islanders in third place. My only fear with the Devil's 495 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: is if they get close, they'll get every call because 496 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: the NHL would love to get Jack Ughes in the playoffs. 497 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, no question about it. He had a hat trick. 498 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 3: I think over the weekend, Jack Hughes like his first 499 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: big game since coming back to NHL action. 500 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: He's a player, no question about that. He's a kid. 501 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm rooting for him. I think he can 502 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: do hockey so much good. Although they've already kind of 503 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: dropped the ball on that. He should be everywhere and 504 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll do more ads and stuff like that. 505 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: But after SNL and Tonight Show, him and Quinn have 506 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: just gone back to being hockey players, and that's opportunity 507 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: lost by the league and by hockey. Up next, I 508 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: teased it in the first segment, we'll talk about the 509 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: new sandwich at McDonald's, the Big arch. I think that's 510 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: named after Archie from Archie's on the sauce side. I 511 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: think he invented it and they stole it. 512 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: One oh five to nine, it's The Woody Show weekday 513 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 6: mornings at six. 514 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: Of course, X Music on one oh five nine the X. 515 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Mark Madden. Forget this almost fifty pounds talk. 516 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: I cruised it's the Mark Man. Okay. 517 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: The Steelers with another get and why don't they just 518 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: let them sign today? And as opposed to legal tampering, 519 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: it's just an insult and waste time when you announced 520 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: it today and you just got to put pen to 521 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: paper on Wednesday. But they signed Jamel Dean quarterback from 522 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 2: Tampa three years U thirty six point seven five mil. 523 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: Tom he is maybe the best cornerback on the market. Correct, 524 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: You could definitely make the argument for that he was. 525 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: And that's not an onerous price. That's reasonable, No, it's 526 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: very reasonable. And again he's not like a number one 527 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: nailed on corner because those don't really get to the market. 528 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: But Joey Porter Junior is supposed to exactly exactly. 529 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: I think now with Dean and Porter and Samuel, that's 530 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: a pretty good group of corners there. 531 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: Does Ramsey state at safety too permanently? Do you think 532 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 3: or do you still toy with getting an improvement in 533 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 3: that room and moving him back to the slot. I 534 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: think he's better in the slot if he just plays 535 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: that nickel position. 536 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you'd have Porter and Dean on the outside. 537 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: Ramseyot say, as kind of your extra guy. 538 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that'd be good. What they got in 539 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: safety though, they. 540 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: Got they got Elliett coming back, Allian it'll be back. 541 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: You'd have to address that room though, and add to 542 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: that a little bit. But you know what, I find 543 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: more value with Ramsey in the slot and having good 544 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: corners than having great safeties. 545 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: I find more value in Jammel Dean than I do 546 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Jr. 547 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: I do too, very honest. I think I think Dean. 548 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: I think with Dean and Porter on the outside, that's 549 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: going to be an impactful position, first time in a 550 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: long time for the Steelers. 551 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: No question about it. So I think that that's a 552 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: huge move for them. I was hoping that they would 553 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: take a big swing in free agency when it came 554 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: to that cornerback position, and I'm glad that they did 555 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: when after a whale, a Day one type of guy 556 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: and not waiting to see who you know, slipped through 557 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: the cracks into Day four and five. 558 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: Now, PZ Junior is due for a new contract after 559 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: this coming season, correct which means he'd be negotiating now 560 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: now that crazy McDuffie deal. He went from the Chiefs 561 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: to the Rams. How does that reset the market? And 562 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: this Porter a guy who can take advantage of that 563 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: or will the Steelers feel he's not at that level. 564 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if he can take the full advantage 565 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 3: of it to outdo Trent McDuffie. But he signed a 566 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: four year, one hundred and twenty four million dollar extension, 567 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: So he's making thirty one million dollars per year from 568 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: the La Rams. He's now the highest paid cornerback in football. 569 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: But even if you're not gonna, you know, reset the 570 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: market as a Joey Porter Jr. And get thirty two 571 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: million dollars per year, that's gonna help you out a lot. 572 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: That's gonna get you towards the upper ends of the 573 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: twenties as far as the deal is concerned. And that's 574 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: I think really got to be one of the more 575 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: top of the line priorities for the Steelers this offseason. 576 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: Would you not agree is to get that extension done 577 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: with Joey Porter Junior? Have that locked up? 578 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 579 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: I think the more you let him think after deals 580 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 2: like McDuffie's, you know what I mean, The more his 581 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: agent or whoever other players. His dad, Oh my god, 582 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: his dad gets in his ziar about you deserve blah 583 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: blah blah. 584 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: And you know, remember when JJ Watt made that argument 585 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: about TJ Watt for his you want to get it 586 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: on early because that price just keeps going up. It's like, okay, whatever, 587 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 3: But TJ. Wat's closer to the end than he is 588 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: at the beginning. With Joey Porter Jr. That applies that logic, 589 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 3: like he is on the rise right now, and I 590 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: bet he'll have an even better season next year than 591 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: this year and his price will go off even. 592 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: I think if you have Dean at the opposite corner 593 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: and Ramsey on the slot, I think that bodes well 594 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 2: for him. 595 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: I do too. 596 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: If they got to get a safety, though in fact 597 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: they don't get a better safety of what they got, 598 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: I'd be tempted to go with Elliott. Elliott's still under contract, right, 599 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: Elliot's still under contract. I'd be tend to go with 600 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: Elliott and Ramsey. 601 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: It's safe because he still haves too, so you can 602 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: still play with Eckles in that nickel position and he's fine. 603 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: But I just think Ramsey is so valuable with the 604 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. If it's possible, I do too. I 605 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: do too for sure. 606 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: Uh, Tom, we got to talk about the new sandwich 607 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: and McDonald's, the Big Arch and McDonald's And I don't 608 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: know if this is temporary, you know, like you know, 609 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: like they do the McRib every once in a while, 610 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: or if it's permanent. I suspect it's temporary, like just 611 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: the promotional item. 612 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: But it's very ray. McDonald's ivelt was something new, except 613 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: this really ain't that new. Okay. 614 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: Listen the ingredients two quarter pond beef patties, three slices 615 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: of white cheddar, crispy onions, uh, lettuce, pickles, you know, 616 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 2: the usual, and a special Big Art sauce whatever that is, 617 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: and a toasted sesame and poppy seed bun. The poppy 618 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: seed so the people who take drug tests will pop 619 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: positive for heroin, I would think, But that strikes me 620 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: as basically the Big Mac with different cheese and crispy onions. 621 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 3: It's like a bizarro world Big Mac, right, like if 622 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 3: you slipped into another reality, this would be their version 623 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: of the Big Mac. 624 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 625 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of this, and I 626 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: guess the difference too, will be the sauce. Right, the 627 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: sauce will be the big differentiating point. It'll be a 628 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 3: different tasting sauce than the classic Big Mac sauce. It's 629 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: tough to beat the Big Mac though, And if you're 630 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: gonna be as close to Big Mac sauce and you 631 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: ever figured that out? 632 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 5: I think that is a recipe that is available. It's 633 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 5: a can the Thousand Island dressing it exactly. 634 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, you blend, you can make it how you blend, 635 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 3: like some mustards and some stuff together. I think there's 636 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: some homemade recipes out there. It's been solved. 637 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: Would you eat a big arch? Yeah? I eat a 638 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: big arch. I would McDonald's guy, I would too, you 639 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: know what. 640 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: I like McDonald's, but it's so bad, like the fries, 641 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: especially so bad for you. I've eat a McDonald's maybe 642 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: once in the last five or six years. 643 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: That makes sense. I mean, I think you gotta walk 644 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: away from that at some point in your life. 645 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 2: Right. 646 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: It's not on the recommended list for Awake. 647 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 5: It didn't make the cut. There's not anything on that menu. 648 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 5: Did they have a salad there of some kind? 649 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: I think they did that for a while, right, like 650 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: a small little like cup of salad or something. 651 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: Awake in one A. 652 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: They gotta get the vegetable chips like the potato chip imitation. 653 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: Back back on the menu. They're out, Tom and that's 654 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: my crew ton for the salad like veggie chips kind 655 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: of things, like veggie straw stuff. 656 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: They're very chippy. I mean they're there, they. 657 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: Are for sure. Veg veggies are good. Veggie straws, veggie chips, 658 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 3: they're pretty good. I'm a fan of those, even not 659 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: on a Tom. 660 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: What do you make in Jessica Alba, who's forty four, 661 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: dating Joe Burrow, who's twenty nine. 662 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: I feel like it's Joe Burrow just living a childhood 663 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: fantasy out right. 664 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: I do too, Like I said on Tim Bens's podcast, 665 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: I bet both of them feel like they're climbing mont 666 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: kiliman Jarro because I you know, Joe Burrow chanced or 667 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: head like a Jessica album poster without questioning on his wall. 668 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: What movies did she do? What was she famous for? 669 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: Probably like when he was growing up, Superhero Guy, Fantastic four, 670 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: when she was the invisible woman like that was probably yeah, 671 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: it was right in her nee. 672 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: She should have been like Rosy Embark there's. 673 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: A great scene there where she goes invisible to take 674 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 3: off all her clothes to become fully invisible, and she 675 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 3: comes back visible in a bron panties. It's fantastic cinema. 676 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: Did she ever do topless? Probably right, that seems like 677 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: something she should do. 678 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: When halle Berry did topless that opened up. Yes, it 679 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: really was. 680 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: They classed it up a bit, didn't it. Although Beverie 681 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: and D'Angelo did topless before anybody else in the Vacation movies, 682 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: she did it with class. 683 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: She wasn't topless in the Vacation she was. 684 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: Oh yes she was. When they were in the first 685 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: one in the hotel room. Remember in the Toldless she 686 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: was tough. They were out mark. Wasn't it silhouetted again? 687 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: I think we saw him? 688 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: Well, everybody please look that up on Google right now 689 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: and fill us in. We we can't use the computers here, 690 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: you know, people would, would you know? Just I don't know, 691 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: but yeah, But but so she is probably one of 692 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: his boyhood fantasies. And she's thirty four and she's still 693 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: really good looking, and she probably figures Nah, never thought 694 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: i'd get a young NFL quarterback again. 695 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: This is pretty good for me too. 696 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: And it's top of the food chain, right Like it's 697 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, I mean, one of the coolest looking quarterbacks. 698 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: She's driving around in the Batmobile with him, remember when 699 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: he bought the Batmobile? Like this is awesome for her. 700 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: You're right, it's a dream come true in both directions. 701 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: Now, getting back to the NFL, and some of the 702 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: movement for second Minca went to the Jets. Who would 703 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: have thought when the Steelers sabotaged their team grievously by 704 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: giving up a number one pick they could have used 705 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: to get Justin Herbert, to get Minka and go eight 706 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: and eight that year? Who would have thought that Minca, 707 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: after an initial very good run in Pittsburgh, made a 708 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: couple first team All Pro. But now he's a journeyman. 709 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: He's a journeyman. Wasn't that great in Miami last year? 710 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, just gonna get washed away 711 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: in New York on the Jets. Now, in my favorite 712 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: stat mark, the Jets win an entire season last year 713 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: without an interception. That's like impossible to believe. Still, after 714 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: a couple of months removed from the season, Minka had 715 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 3: more than their entire team with a whopping one interception. 716 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: Mica has had two picks total in two years. Yeah, 717 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: he just he used to be the takeaway now that 718 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: was his bread and butter, and. 719 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: People made excuses when he was here that, well, the 720 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: other team's just staying away from him, or he's playing, 721 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: you know, deep as the center fielder. But that's not 722 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: the case now because ain't nobody afraid of him at 723 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: this point. I was surprised Kenneth Walker, the Super Bowl 724 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: MVP for Seattle, went to Kansas City. Now I'm not 725 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: surprised Seattle with him go. I mean, he had a 726 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: great Super Bowl, but I don't think he was indigenous 727 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: to their success like some. 728 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: Other guys were. 729 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: That said, Kansas City always seems to get that guy, 730 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: don't they. 731 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: They really do. And I was really thinking they might 732 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: take I love the running back out of Notre Dame 733 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: number nine overall if he gets there in the draft, 734 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: because he's probably gonna be a top ten pick. So 735 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't make it that far. But I'm just 736 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: I'm really worried about what they do with number nine. 737 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: Now they got Kenneth Walker in the fold, there's a 738 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 3: total retooling happening. 739 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: There. 740 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: Big mistake they're making though, is bringing back Kelsey. They 741 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: should have told him to just go away. 742 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: I'm actually very happy the Steelers got Pittman and especially 743 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 2: Dean Jamal Dean right the cornerback, but I'm still not 744 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: sure where it leaves them because I'm still not sure 745 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: who the cornerback is it. 746 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: You need that last piece of the puzzle before you 747 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: can really evaluate the team, and I guess we just 748 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: assume it's Aaron Rodgers, but he could burn you that 749 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: that is still a possibility. 750 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: See. 751 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: I think the reason they traded for Pittman was because 752 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: until Rogers announces publicly, it was going to be tough 753 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: to sign a good free agent receiver, whether it's Well 754 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: Pierce stayed in Indy or ha Dobbs signed with anybody 755 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 2: the Green Bay. 756 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: I'm seeing Dobbs go. Mike Evans went to the Niners. 757 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: Why would anybody sign here if they don't know who 758 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: the quarterback is? But they traded for Pittman. 759 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: That's right, he had no choice, and then they signed 760 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: offered them the extension after the trade. 761 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: And at that point money talks. We got out of 762 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: hockey talk. 763 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: The rest of the show we got Matt Barkowski joining me, 764 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: got up, We got Ryan Malone, Bugsy. So it's gonna 765 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: be a big hockey day because the Penguins, I mean, 766 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: they're the story. They're the story. I mean, I hate 767 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: to burst your bubble, but like I love getting Dean, 768 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: I like getting Pittman, it all leads to ten and 769 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: seven again, it all leads the same thing. This team 770 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: will never truly step way forward until it's willing to 771 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: take a few steps backward. 772 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And they will never do that. And we 773 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 3: just brought up the Chiefs six and eleven. Last year 774 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: they took a step backwards and it was kind of 775 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: forced on them. They didn't want to do it on purpose, 776 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: but once the season went that way, they just fell 777 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: back into it. They just embraced it. Top ten pick. 778 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: Now they're going out and making moves. 779 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: I think Patrick Mahomes is more likely to win another 780 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: Super Bowl than Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. 781 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good take. 782 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: I mean, how could you not say that he's the 783 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: one that always stops them in their tracks. Last year 784 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: was the year they could get away without having to 785 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: face him, and they both failed. 786 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: You know who is gonna win a Super Bowl. 787 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Jessica Alba, no Joe Burrow with 788 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 5: Alba on the stage. 789 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 2: She'll She'll be the cougar version of Taylor Swift. One 790 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: oh five to nine. Tomorrow nights, it's the Pens against 791 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: the Hurricanes. 792 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 3: Game time is seven. Our coverage starts at six here 793 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: every game and the best coverage right here on your 794 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: home of the Pens one oh five nine. 795 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: D X. 796 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: From the one oh five nine the ex Weather Center. 797 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: This report is sponsored by True Green. 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Restrictions apply 809 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 4: a see signed for details. 810 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: Hi, it's tall, Kathy, You know what stressing over financial 811 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: things is never fun. 812 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: So listen up. Pregay Show one D. 813 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: First hot of the program, brought to us by good 814 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: friends at Shander Rovich, Sendrorovic and Fishman. They only charge 815 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: twenty five percent. Everybody else charges forty. We've been talking 816 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: about Jamel Dean the I think the bigger of the 817 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: two signings today. Although Michael Pittman Junior is are good 818 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: get it wide out, both physical players at their respect 819 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: to positions. But according to our football guru Matt Williamson, 820 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 2: Jamel Dean was ranked fourth overall at cornerback by Pro 821 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: Football Focus and the passer rating against throws into Jamel 822 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 2: Zeene's area of coverage was forty six point nine, the 823 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 2: best in the National Football League. 824 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: Now, I don't like that. 825 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: Pittman's twenty eight, and somebody pointed out on Twitter, well, 826 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: Jamel Dean is thirty and you know what that is 827 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 2: when cornerbacks can take a turn for the worst. 828 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: Uh. 829 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 2: But you know, in a vacuum, these are both good gets. 830 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: These are both good players. But my problem is that 831 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 2: there are signings for right now, right this second. Let's 832 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 2: win as much as we can this year and that'll 833 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: end in the first round. Like it, like it, always does. Uh, Tom, 834 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: what do we got for the trifectam? 835 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: For the day's trifecta, Mark, I was gonna look at 836 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: some of the three bigger deals outside of the Steelers 837 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: that have been made so far in free agency. We 838 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: already talked about the Kenneth Walker one, so let's get 839 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 3: that out of here. Actually, in suben number three, Mike 840 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: Evans going to the San Francisco forty nine Ers, which 841 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 3: just recently. 842 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: Broke, how much he still got left. 843 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: I'm very curious to find that out, especially in an 844 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 3: offense like Shanahan's offense. 845 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: If Campa Bay, well, no, that might be a good 846 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: fit for him in San Francisco. 847 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: But if I'm Tampa Bay, I'm not sure. I'm that 848 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: bothered about him leaving. 849 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: I'm not, But it is a It is an example 850 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: of a franchise moving on from an all time greade. So, hey, 851 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 3: Penguins fans, you're looking for that in a couple of months, 852 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: there's another shining one for you. 853 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: In the Powers with Cuts. You don't want your dressing 854 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: room to become a museum. 855 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 3: I love when you put that. That's a great way 856 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 3: to put it, and I'm that up. I didn't see 857 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 3: a question. Number two, Malik Willis to the Miami Dolphins, 858 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 3: the first quarterback to go off the board forty five 859 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 3: million dollars guaranteed for him. It's a lot more than 860 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 3: what Justin Field's got from the Jets. And it's a 861 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: little bit of a head scratch that the Dolphins went 862 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 3: after him, to be honest with you, because it seems 863 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 3: like they're making a bunch of other moves to be 864 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: really really bad this year, and then they go. 865 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: Out and they sign. Maybe what people think this. 866 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: Is they maybe they figure if they're really bad, he's 867 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: still there when they start to get really good again, 868 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: and he could be part of that because you can 869 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 2: turn it around quickly. 870 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: In football, especially if you haven't. 871 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: The Steelers, well, I don't have that position, especially if 872 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: you try to turn it around. If the Steelers are 873 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 2: just trying to maintain, every move they make is trying 874 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: to maintain. 875 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: You get the quarterback, and everything else just jump starts. 876 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 3: Everything else just starts to fall into place for you. 877 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: I thought two was going to get ninety nine million 878 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: over the next two years from Miami to not play for. 879 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 3: This crazy number one though not a move that was 880 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 3: made today. We're forgetting about it because of the free 881 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 3: agency Frenchie. But the Crosby to the Ravens, I mean 882 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 3: that might be the move that defines the entire offseason 883 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 3: and the future NFL landscape for twenty twenty s. I 884 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: mean that has changed the game for the AFC. 885 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: I like the moves the Steelers have made today. Right now, 886 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: they're the third place team in the division. If Lamar 887 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 2: and Burrow both stay healthy, the Steelers are for sure 888 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: the third place team in the division. 889 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 3: The Ravens probably last year you said you thought they 890 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: had the best roster in football. Without the Crosby move, 891 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 3: you could probably make the case of healthy Ravens this 892 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 3: year would have been the best AFC roster. Now you 893 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 3: ad Max Crosby on top of. 894 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: That, and don't sleep when the Bengals in Burrow presumably 895 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 2: being healthy, if the little worn out from Jessica Alba, 896 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: like people just don't. I mean, Burrow has been in 897 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl and in an AFC Championship game. 898 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: He's the real thing. When he's healthy, that's it. 899 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: When he's healthy, Tom, I honestly think he is the 900 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 2: best pure quarterback the classic drop back throwing and has 901 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: mobility to type a quarterback. 902 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 3: God, it's easy for me to agree with you. I 903 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 3: love Joe Burrow. I've loved him ever since he came 904 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 3: out of LSU, And it is ridiculous that people kind 905 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 3: of like don't take what he's done in the NFL 906 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 3: as seriously as they should because of that injury curbulence 907 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 3: that he's gone through. When he's on the Bengals, who 908 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 3: were seeing franchise that he got to a super Bowl 909 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 3: and was in that Super Bowl. You know, it was 910 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 3: an Aaron Donald sack or forced interception away from maybe 911 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 3: winning that game. 912 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: He just didn't get to a super Bowl. He got 913 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl with the Bengals one oh five 914 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 2: nine The X