1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Many things, episode of one of two one third down. 2 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: This is a doozy third and eleven from their own 3 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: seventeen Carson Wentz put. 4 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: The ball and he gets it, goes back to past 5 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 3: and now he is stamped back at the eight yard line. 6 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: That was getting happy. Herbert under center and off the 7 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: doll upside, runs into a host of keys, but then 8 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: he takes off down and as. 9 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: In the in zone touchdown l A Targers. 10 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: That is their first. 11 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 4: Rushing touchdown of the twenty twenty five season. Second and 12 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: ten Herbert for the back two was left out of 13 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: the shotgun Hey right side end zone caught. 14 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: Touchdown rat Mconukee, who blowbot blue by Jeff Ohuda like 15 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: he was tied to a. 16 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 3: Post tighten in motion. 17 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: To the left of Herbert. He rolls out to the 18 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: right looking to the end zone. Now it's between the 19 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: Asmarks flicks it to the endzone and the spot touchdown 20 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: LA Chargers. That is Pray Harris, the Mississippi rookie with 21 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: his first National Football League touchdown reception. Herbert has thrown 22 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: three and the Chargers lead thirty to ten. West fot 23 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: Te Devas who's at ball the right side left that 24 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: ball went right to a number of the LA Chargers. 25 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 2: It's an interception with a pass intended for Jefferson r 26 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: Jane Micks that Clemson. He picked it off and he 27 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: returned to fifteen yards just like that at all, Bros 28 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 2: Merges Avi or Scott on a gun line heads to 29 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: the right side across the line of scrimmage of the 30 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: thirty five and he'll he will bounce off a Charger nicely. 31 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 2: That's a game of ten yards and the Vikings first down. 32 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: We're now down to ten seconds to go in the game, 33 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: and that's going to be as the Vikings walk on 34 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: another play, they're going to hoist the white flag and 35 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: the LA Chargers improved to five and three. 36 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: The Minnesota Vikings drop two, three and. 37 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Four after losing thirty seven to ten to the LA Chargers. 38 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: Stage press upon a mom in France. 39 00:03:45,720 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: Away, Jan Hassen, Minnesota, what's going on? You already to 40 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: have some fun today with KFA N nine to noon 41 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: and the Friday Football What it's the Friday Football Feast, 42 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: the Nick Madden and the Street Team, ladies and gentlemen 43 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: around of applause, and that street team would be a 44 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: plus of all a pluses if they actually took some 45 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: shirts and threw them out to the crowd. 46 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: Anybody want free shirts? 47 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: Hey? 48 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 5: Hey, come now, you go ahad and do it. No, man, 49 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 5: they're on the table, Go ahead and do it. We're 50 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 5: ahead of the curve here, brother. Anybody want free shirts? 51 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: I mean, come on the football teams three and four 52 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 5: you want free shirts? I mean we're here to clothe you, 53 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 5: We're here to feed you, and we are here to 54 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 5: hopefully provide you entertainment via nine to Noon, an FM 55 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 5: one hundred point three Kfan and the Friday Football Feast, 56 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 5: Nick Madden and the Street Team, Jared Wells, Ladies and Gentlemen. 57 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: Jay Dove is our engineer. 58 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: He's the best and the engineer for the KFA in Minutes, Soda, Vikings, 59 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: Vast and never expanding audio network. So he will be 60 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: in Detroit this weekend with yours truly. Alex will be 61 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: there too. Alec as in Alec lewis from the Athletic 62 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: Ladies and Gentlemen. He's a co host of the Friday 63 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: Football Feast, Mad Producer Nordo producer of nine to Noon. 64 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: He's a co host of the Friday Football Feast and 65 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: Devin Ward is guiding the great Ship Love Covenant from 66 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: FM one hundred point three k FAM. Happy Halloween, ladies 67 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: and gentlemen. Everybody ready to have a funky good time 68 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: this weekend on Halloween. 69 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: Make a little noise, Jan has it? 70 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 6: Come on? 71 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: I know this thing's three and four, but it's a 72 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: Friday into the weekend, It's Halloween, and everybody's gonna get 73 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: all loose today. The Minnesota Vikings are three and four, 74 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: all right. The game eight days ago at so far 75 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: against the LA Chargers proved Loserville indeed does sound better 76 00:05:54,680 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: in FM. The Lions as usual are quite good and 77 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: it beating the Minnesota Vikings five consecutive times. But it's 78 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: JJ season, ladies and gentlemen. JJ season. 79 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: Take number two, as in J J. 80 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: McCarthy, So let's get excited to watch this kid quarterback 81 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: grow as the leader everybody following the Vikings hopes he 82 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: will be. This Lions game has some priorities as nine 83 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: to noon rolls, and priority number one would involve said 84 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: quarterback JJ McCarthy and some form of improvement some signs 85 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: that we see from JJ McCarthy, whether the Minnesota Vikings 86 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: win or lose. Priority number one let's keep this quarterback 87 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: on the field, let's watch him improve, and let's continue 88 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: to move on Nordo, good morning. 89 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 7: Good morning. Yeah, that's why I did that segment earlier. 90 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 7: This week is three and four. 91 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 3: That's ugly. 92 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 7: Injury issues ugly, the quarterback situation due to health ugly ugly. 93 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 7: And at this stage of the game, we're going into 94 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 7: a weekend where Ford Field Halloween asked might feel like 95 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 7: a haunted house. But at this stage, the expectations need 96 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 7: to be altered, and maybe our focus is a fan 97 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 7: base needs to be altered. We want this team to 98 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 7: win every game, there's no doubt about it. But after 99 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 7: the build up to seeing number nine take the field 100 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 7: opening night at Soldier Field, to the ankle injury and 101 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 7: then poof, he's gone for six weeks, the ability to 102 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 7: see this kid back on the field and at the 103 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 7: end of this season, regardless of the record, again, I 104 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 7: want a playoff team. I was sold on a roster 105 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 7: that was a playoff team independent of a quarterback. 106 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: That's what I wanted, and that's what I want. 107 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 7: But with number nine at the end of the season, 108 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 7: I want to know what we have in this kid 109 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 7: and seeing some levels whatever that is materially of improvement, 110 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 7: whether it's time and rhythm of the offense, decision making, 111 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 7: using that mobility, protecting himself in the pocket, having a 112 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 7: couple of badass tackles at his disposal on Sunday certainly 113 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 7: will help. But seeing that improvement from JJ is a 114 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 7: topic for me. 115 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: Alex Lewis covers the Minnesota Vikings for the Athletic and 116 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: the Athletic dot Com, which means he's at all the 117 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: press conferences, including offensive coordinator Wes Phillips and or head 118 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: coach Kevin O'Connell. He's gathering all of the steam during 119 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: the course of the week. JJ McCarthy, take number two, 120 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: What are you feeling? 121 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: What are you hearing? And good morning? First of all, 122 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna dress up. I did, as 123 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: Jay leno. I mean we didn't talk about it. I 124 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 3: really I expected you to walk in with some Ah. 125 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: What do I you know? 126 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: With JJ? And good morning? Good morning? Thank you by 127 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: the way, Uh with JJ, I'm kind of gonna flip it. 128 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 8: Like the thought before this season was that he was 129 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 8: being handed the keys to this ferrari, and this has 130 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 8: not been a ferrari. 131 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: It's been like a Mazda. And that's really like, I know. 132 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 8: No offense anybody who drives a Mazda or Mazda for 133 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 8: sponsored or endorsed by Mazda. 134 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 7: But your local Mazda dealers brings you. This portion of the. 135 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 8: Fact is the offensive line has not been nearly good enough, 136 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 8: so much of that is a byproduct of health. And 137 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 8: then the interior defensive line that was overhauled this offseason 138 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 8: has not been good enough either. And the more I 139 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 8: watch this league, the more I cover this league, it's 140 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 8: really two things. 141 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Can you run the football? Can you stop the run? 142 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 8: He can't do those two things, it's probably not worth 143 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 8: even talking about anything else. So around JJ this weekend, 144 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 8: from a protection standpoint, can that group be engaged? And 145 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 8: then defensively, can the Vikings take some of the pressure 146 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 8: off of him for him to do what he needs 147 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 8: to do, which is stay healthy, see the field well, 148 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 8: get the ball out quick, and be accurate like those 149 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 8: That's the thing when in the first two games he 150 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 8: held the ball too long and he wasn't accurate enough. 151 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: Those have to rise to a certain level. 152 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 8: But he has to be put in a position where 153 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 8: not everything is absolutely. 154 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: On him for this thing to go Okay Sunday Priority 155 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: number two Sunday Noon for the boom Ford Field Bastin 156 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: never expanding KFAM, Minnesota Vikings Audio Network. Look the part 157 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: of an organized bunch, all right now? Eight days ago, 158 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: you know when Loserville was sounding better in FM. Looking 159 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: the part of an organized bunch, to a certain extent 160 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: means limiting penalties and seeing things or enduring things in 161 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: games offensively or defensively that aren't going the right way 162 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: and not taking an hour for them to change. Those 163 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: would be a couple of examples. This is a tough 164 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: team to beat in the well A. It's a tough 165 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: team to beat. B It's a tough team to beat 166 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: in the penalty battle. See, it's a very tough team 167 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: to beat in the turnover battle. This team is plus 168 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: six in the turnover differential. They are number one in 169 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: the NFL for forced fumbles. They are number one in 170 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: the NFL with strip sacks, and they only have five 171 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: gives this year. They've only given the ball away five 172 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: times through seven games. That's a fifth best in the NFL. 173 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: So win one of those categories and let's just look organized. 174 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah for me. 175 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 7: You know, we talked about turning the page earlier this week, 176 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 7: turning the page on these pre snap penalties and just 177 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 7: clamping around and thankfully again due to the health of 178 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 7: the offensive line, hopefully banking that into the weekend, the 179 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 7: idea that you're going to have four out of your 180 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 7: preferred five save for the center of course, pre snab penalties, 181 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 7: weird holds, ineligible men down field. I mean, if you 182 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 7: want JJ to show improvement this weekend, a long Jordan 183 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 7: Mason run that's taken back by a holding penalty and 184 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 7: suddenly you're first and twenty, you're setting your QB up 185 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 7: for a lack of success. You're setting yourself up for 186 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 7: a punt, and you're setting yourself up to lose a 187 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 7: track meet against a team that doesn't. 188 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: Make these mistakes. 189 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 7: And from a defensive standpoint, you know, just the tackling 190 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 7: needs to improve. I mean, the organization of the team 191 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 7: maybe in some ways leads to basic or fundamental exec 192 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 7: cution of the team on Sunday. All those things off 193 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 7: a Thursday into potentially a haunted house at Ford Field 194 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 7: on Sunday. 195 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: All that needs to be better and priority number three, 196 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: I mean, this really could have gone about nine deep, 197 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: but for the purpose of time. Priority number three yours truly, 198 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: and several others we'll be looking for. Is let's start 199 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: establishing identities, all right? The Minnesota twenty twenty five Minnesota 200 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: Viking sadly lack identity. And it was very easy to 201 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: find the identity of this team last year. I mean, 202 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: you could start with Van Ginkle and Grenard and what 203 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: they would pose from a threat standpoint, off the edge 204 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: against adversarial offenses. Now, the expectation absolutely is that Andrew 205 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: Van Ginkle will play this weekend opposite Jonathan Grenard, who 206 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: I believe will play despite some injury report terrorism. So 207 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: let's start establishing identities. Maybe with forty three and fifty 208 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: eight with the arguably as good an edge duo last 209 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: year as any duo in the National Football League. 210 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: That was a sweet identity, Alec. 211 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: The identity of the three to four Vikings is it 212 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,479 Speaker 2: null and void at this minute? And from a scribe standpoint, 213 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: a covering standpoint, what are some things that you would 214 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: think would be cool to say? 215 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: No, you're right like that is? 216 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 8: I mean, I remember in London, in the postgame press 217 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 8: conference after the win against Cleveland entering the bye week, 218 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 8: one of the things that Kevin O'Connell talked about was like, 219 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 8: we have to use this bye week to identify what 220 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 8: our identities are. And it didn't I mean coming out 221 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 8: of that obviously losing two games. It doesn't feel like 222 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 8: they've settled on any specific areas. I thought entering the season, 223 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 8: and I said this many times with both you guys 224 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 8: that the defensive line and the run game we're going 225 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 8: to be the scaffolding of this team as they developed 226 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 8: JJ into this season, and it really doesn't feel like 227 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 8: the defensive line or the run game have. 228 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: Been strengths at all. And I guess my question at this. 229 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 8: Point is can you, now nine weeks into the season, 230 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 8: get to a place where those things can be the idea? 231 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: I know, but that's I mean the run game. 232 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 8: For me, Like obviously game script plays a part in 233 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 8: how many times you're running the ball and the effectiveness, 234 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 8: but just establishing that to be able to then run 235 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 8: play action with JJ, which makes it easier for the 236 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 8: quarterback feels huge. 237 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: Sunday and moving forward. 238 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, this play action you're about to see from the 239 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, in case you forgot about it, it's high, 240 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: high end. The quarterback barely gets sacked. He it's about 241 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: seventy five percent of his passes, second best in the 242 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: NFL behind Drake May And it is a lot of 243 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: short stuff. They don't go over the top a lot. 244 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: They try to beat you from ten to about twenty 245 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: or twenty five and watch those guys run. 246 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: So that's all coming up this weekend now. 247 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: Alex inclusion nine to noon is a courtesy of Steve's 248 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: Appliances and Steve's Appliances dot Com and part of the 249 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: timber Tech What's on Deck set list includes one of 250 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: the great defensive players in the history of Minnesota Vikings football. 251 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: We just walked in, Chad Greenway. We'll return to the 252 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: feast around the corner. Plus we have much more coming 253 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: up a little later. We thank you very much for 254 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: joining us at Buffalo Wild Wings chan Hassen. Happy Halloween 255 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: you and your super special kids and everything. And make 256 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: sure everybody has a great time and it is all 257 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: safe this evening. Okay, we are at Buffalo Wild Wings 258 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: chan Hassen and we are feasting with Chad Greenway around 259 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: the corner. 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Hey, thank you for coming out today, 279 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: you as you're fantastic man. 280 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: We really appreciate that. And what we also appreciate is 281 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: our first guest. Today we have two on site guests, 282 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: and our first is one of the better defensive players 283 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: in the history of Minnesota Vikings football. He is one 284 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: of the great tacklers in the history of Minnesota Vikings 285 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: football ladies and gentlemen, Can I get a witness and 286 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: a rockous round of. 287 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: Applause for Chad buring Ways. Thank you, good to be here, 288 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: good to be back on site. 289 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: This is a courtesy of Grey Duck Vodka and Great 290 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: Duck Spirits. Where you've been all our lives? Holy yeah, 291 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: you've you don't come to Monticello, which is understandable. You're 292 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: in Lexington, uh with with with your daughter. 293 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: What was the first? First? What was happening there? The first? 294 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: Uh her official visit? Official bill? Thank you? They paid 295 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 3: for this one. I love that was taking every moment 296 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: of that one. In no doubt. 297 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: You're check to chef two, so that matters, yes, But nevertheless, 298 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: when you're not at the the team loses, all right. 299 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: So the team's three and four. It's great to have 300 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: you back here. Chad Greenway and. 301 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: The Minnesota Vikings are big underdogs into this game this weekend. 302 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: They're nine point underdogs. And you were never an underdog 303 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: to the Detroit Lions. And it actually took me about 304 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: forty minutes to figure this thing out. You were never 305 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: an underdog in a game against the Detroit Lions. 306 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: That's incredible. And the Lion. 307 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: The Lions are quite good, as we know, but we 308 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: do have favorite Vikings Lions or Detroit Lions moments from 309 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: over the years. You know, I'd like to begin with 310 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: the two thousand and eight season when they went winless, 311 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: where the Lions played sixteen and lost them all. Yep, 312 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: there was now The Vikings won the division that year, 313 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: and they got a wild card game at home and 314 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 2: lost to Philadelphia. Bad division that year. But nevertheless, the 315 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: Lions went ohen sixteen in two thousand and eight and 316 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: they had a couple of meat You guys had a 317 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: couple of meat grinders against them. I mean, try to 318 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: put him at one in fifteen in one of these 319 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: twelve to ten games, it was aggressive. Hanson kept trying 320 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: to dagger you late at Ford Field. And how about this, 321 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: Dante Culpepper had a seventy yard touchdown pass to Calvin 322 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: Johnson in the Ford Field game in two. 323 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: Thousand and eight. 324 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: So I when I was looking at all of this 325 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: stuff up, I mean, honestly, I will give you a 326 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars bill right now, and if you can't 327 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: name it, there are five of them. 328 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: You'll see. You have to give me twent five bills. 329 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: You have to give me a twenty Okay. 330 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: Five quarterbacks played for the Detroit Lions that season in 331 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. No chance, no bet, no chame. 332 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: You don't want the five to one, no bet? All right, Well, 333 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: at Metrodome when you beat him twelve ten, that was 334 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: the game. Jared Allen Chase Dan Orlofsky out of the 335 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: end zone. So you got Orlovsky, You have Dante Culpepper. 336 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: Any of the constituents here want to throw out any names? 337 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: Jean Hill, Joey Harrington. 338 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 7: Was there a kitten in the mix? 339 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 3: John Hittingum makes number three? Okay? Now the other two 340 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 3: really have the same first name. Oh Man Drew Stanton, 341 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: oh wow from the crowd. 342 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: And Drew he Hens Drew Henson Henson Wow. Yeah, they 343 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: had five quarterbacks that year. We we liked that version 344 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: of the Detroit Lions a little more than the current one. Yes, 345 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: that was fun, the one that found a way to 346 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: go Owen sixteen fans with bags over their heads. Ye, 347 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. It's nearly two decades removed from that. 348 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: But how about a round of applause for the Owen 349 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: sixteen Detroit Lion two thousand and eight. Thank you, thank 350 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: you very much. 351 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 6: I remember in the draft year six lines went nine 352 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 6: took Ernie Simms, linebacker Florida State University. Yeah, at the 353 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 6: time was like god, I would love to be number nine, 354 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 6: and then a couple years later it was like may 355 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 6: of them, I'm happy, I'm just picked up and cheat. 356 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 357 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: Well, the next year, after Owen sixteen, they had the 358 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: first overall pick in the draft. 359 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: Take would have been Staff, the Super Bowl winning quarterback 360 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: Stord choice. 361 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: So that's then, this is now, and you know that 362 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: five quarterback trick is probably not preferred. The Vikings have 363 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: already gone through three. But like brosemers come in and 364 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: mop up type time. So uh, let's begin here with 365 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: the game changer, Jamiir Gibbs. And uh, Jamiir Gibbs. When 366 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: he gets out in space, I mean he's a monster. 367 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: He's an absolute preacher. When Gibbs and Montgomery both score 368 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 2: in the same game, which happens, it's a thing. As 369 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 2: the kids would say, the Lions are fourteen to zero, 370 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: so they're going to try to get that little thing going. 371 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: They got a nice little running game. What do you 372 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: think of that whole thing? And good morning, Yeah, good morning. 373 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 6: I think when you look about Jamiir Gibbs games specifically, 374 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 6: I can think back to my career and a couple 375 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 6: of guys that absolutely gave you terror when you went 376 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: to bed at night before the game. You know, the 377 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 6: Reggie Bushes, the darren Sprolls, the guy out of the backfield. 378 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 3: It was just going to give you an absolute problem. 379 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 6: And the oldest adage from the linebacker coach was if 380 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 6: you were as fast as them, you'd be playing running back. 381 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 6: So you better take a good angle, you better, you 382 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 6: better cut off his routes. You better make sure you 383 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 6: know where your help is and get to them as 384 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 6: fast as you can and cover them up. I think 385 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 6: this game this weekend, especially with JJ coming back, the 386 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 6: state of our offensive line, our ability to stop the 387 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 6: run is gonna is gonna win or lose the football game. 388 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 6: In my opinion, our ability to play in the line 389 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 6: of scrimmage with these guys. This thing has been flipped 390 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 6: on his head in the last five years where all 391 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 6: of a sudden, the Detroit Lions are the team in 392 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 6: the NFL. In the trenches, they're more physical, They're gonna 393 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 6: beat you up. It's a mentality thing. It's a scheme thing, 394 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 6: it's a personnel thing. 395 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: Trench is not just no line but liked McNeil and 396 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 2: DJ Reider and Hutchinson is just grimy, and they're grimy 397 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: and they're tough. 398 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 6: I think if you could define this this Detroit team 399 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 6: in one word, it's grit. You know, they're just kind 400 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: of that team. 401 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 3: And I think. 402 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 6: It's been complete flip when Campbell came in and they've 403 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 6: bought in. It matches the personality of the city. And 404 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 6: we now have to go in and teams have to 405 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 6: go in Detroit and match their level of intensity in 406 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 6: that spot. And I think that's gonna be the biggest 407 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 6: risk and biggest issue we have. 408 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 7: What are you identifying through a practice week in terms 409 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 7: of how to attack that Gibbs in Montgomery duo, because 410 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 7: it feels like a large part of the run game, 411 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 7: they want to get Gibbs to the outside. So now 412 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 7: I'm looking for a great tackling game, whether it's slock 413 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 7: corners or maybe it's Wilson or Cashman that can find 414 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 7: their way to the boundary and make a tackle. But 415 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 7: on that seventy eight yard or he had the other week, 416 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 7: they absolutely washed out the second level with the O 417 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 7: line linebackers nowhere to be found right up the middle 418 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 7: seventy eight to the outside. 419 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: He out runs everybody. 420 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 7: How are what are you trying to identify over the 421 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 7: course of a week that says here's one thing that 422 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 7: they're going to try to do us, and I know 423 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 7: we can beat that if we pay attention. 424 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you have to self scout first of 425 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 6: all and understand where are we having our issues? 426 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: And to me, it's always about simplify. 427 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 6: If you can simplify your scheme and take it back 428 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 6: to fundamentals where it's just gap control. We have to 429 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 6: identify how we take on blocks. Now, you're going to 430 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 6: lose one on one matchups within a play, and that's 431 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 6: sometimes how the game gets busted. The run gets busted, 432 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 6: you lose. But you try to simplify your scheme and 433 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 6: get back to what you do well in the run game. 434 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 6: Think that's that's what you have to do. Here is 435 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 6: you may have to simplify your package entirely. In the 436 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 6: past game and coverage just a simple simple the communication, 437 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 6: less communication more in gap control, make sure you get 438 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 6: to your gap, don't try to cross space, and make 439 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 6: a play, simplify the game, and what makes football so 440 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 6: great to me is the biggest The best part about 441 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 6: football is all eleven have to do their job. 442 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: And if all eleven are in. 443 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 6: Their gap doing what they're supposed to do, playing with 444 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 6: the right kind of leverage, now it's that guy's job 445 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 6: to make the play. 446 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: And at that point it becomes a tackling game. 447 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 6: So to me, the biggest caveat here is when you 448 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 6: get guys out in space like Jimior Gibbs, who is 449 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 6: an absolute game changer, that's going to be completely down 450 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 6: to tackling in one on one situations. And how how 451 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 6: much are we run to the backside on a on 452 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 6: a play that we think somebody's going to make the play? 453 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 3: We call it loafing. 454 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 6: If you loaf on the backside of a play, loaf tracker, 455 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 6: you never want to get digged for that thing. How 456 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 6: many how many hats to the ball are we having 457 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 6: on every snap? 458 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 8: I wonder, just as someone whose whole job for a 459 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 8: long time was to stop the run? Like, how hard 460 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 8: has it been for you to watch this defense in recently? 461 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 8: Obviously gets Philly? 462 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: They were better stopping the runn't blitz or cover that 463 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: what you're saying is. 464 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: That what you're saying, please don't put me in that spot. 465 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 466 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 6: I think Tampa too. They don't ever rush the outside 467 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 6: of that unbelievable. The kids, I mean, just just kids 468 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 6: these days. 469 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: I think. 470 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 6: I think when you look at the most frustrating part 471 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 6: from a defensive player is when you physically can't beat 472 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 6: somebody because you're getting to dominate the line of scrimmage 473 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 6: and there's not a whole lot of things you can do. 474 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: I've been a part of those teams to San Francisco game. 475 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 6: I always mentioned because we just got overwhelmed in that 476 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 6: game with their physicality. 477 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: And that's the thing that you risk here. 478 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 6: If we don't go with the right mentality and edge 479 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 6: to us defensively, it's going to happen. 480 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: We got to change your mindset. 481 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 6: And I think on the flip side, when you're playing 482 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 6: with the Williams Wall and our run game was the 483 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 6: defensive un game was the most dominant the league for 484 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 6: several years because our mentality was you won't you might get, 485 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 6: you might get someone in the past game, We're gonna 486 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 6: paint our ears back and try to get quarterback, but 487 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 6: you will not beat us running the football right, and 488 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 6: when you control that part of the game, you now 489 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 6: dictate to that quarterback you better beat us. 490 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 3: And all by the way, we have Jared Allen, Russian 491 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: and these other guys. 492 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 6: So that to me is but it's more of a 493 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 6: mindset and the defensive one game to me as a team, 494 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 6: and I think have we gotten away from that? 495 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: Is it personnel? I think is a combination of things. Yeah, 496 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: I'm curious. 497 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 7: About that because how quickly do you change things the 498 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 7: way we're talking about this, the way that you know 499 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 7: Alex laying it out, establishing the run and stopping the 500 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 7: run two absolute a topics for development of JJ, but 501 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 7: also just being competitive in games. You mentioned the personnel 502 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 7: aspect of it. There are parts of this where it's like, 503 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 7: I don't know if that's going to change. I mean, 504 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 7: we all wake up Friday morning and you are with 505 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 7: me in the feast and we're like Kamani Vadal or 506 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 7: do that as a player, you walk into the locker room, 507 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 7: you're in the film room the next day after a 508 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 7: tough loss, and you're like Kamani Vadal, that's a thing 509 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 7: that really happened. I'm just worried in terms of, you know, 510 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 7: the way you're building it out conceptually, totally agree in 511 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 7: your experience. Will we'll stamp that, But how quickly you 512 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 7: can change them seems like a problem. And there does 513 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 7: feel like from year to year there's something missing specifically 514 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 7: on the interior that is allowing whether it's Bijon. 515 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: Who has a right to change games? 516 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 7: You fantastic gibbs this weekend, Well, we'll get to see 517 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 7: how we handle it. But there's something missing there, man, 518 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 7: that just wasn't here a year ago. 519 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 6: Well, the question you asked last week was who are we? 520 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 6: What's our identity? How do we win or lose football games? 521 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 6: When you're this far into a season. That's who we are. 522 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 6: So we have to flip it and change it. Because 523 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 6: there's enough season left to clearly go win this division 524 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 6: and go make a huge impact and make it runs. 525 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 6: Well what division? Well, we have so many divisional games left. 526 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 6: You can't tell me there's not an opportunity to go 527 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 6: into Detroit and flip your season. This would completely change 528 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 6: the mindset of our fan base, our season, our personnel 529 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 6: or players or coaches. If you can go in there 530 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 6: with the mindset and go do it. The best thing 531 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 6: is that we're an underdog. Nobody's giving us a shot. 532 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 6: Now you have to rally around that in the idea 533 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 6: is like this is who we have be the chip 534 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 6: on the shoulder, Like we are a really good football team. 535 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: We're going to go prove it. 536 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 6: We've got all these things that have happened to come 537 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 6: a way. You can't control, injury being the biggest one. 538 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 6: But you have to make sure it's a mindset. Thing 539 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 6: is like I don't care if they beat us, but 540 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 6: they're not gonna beat us this way. We we've done 541 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 6: a lot of these together for a lot of years. Yeah, 542 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 6: And there aren't many times because football players and coaches 543 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 6: are forever looking for an edge. 544 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 2: Did you see what so and so said here? Did 545 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: you see what so and so wrote there? Did you 546 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: see did you hear what so and so said there? 547 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 2: And quite frequently it's trite. Quite quite frequently they're they're 548 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: trying too hard to muster and or concoct an edge. 549 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: That's not the case. This game doesn't mean as nine 550 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 3: point underdogs. 551 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm not big like national sports, TV, radio, radio guide, 552 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: but just following the vibe from afar locally or nationally, 553 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: there there aren't many who are giving the Vikings even 554 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: a puncher's chance in a game like this against a 555 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: Lions team off of buy they're going to get corner 556 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: Terrrian Arnold back what We're happy for him, he see, 557 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: has a lot to learn and and just who they 558 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: are at five and two and and just losing five 559 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: in a row to them, and O'Connell's never won at 560 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: Ford Field. I mean, there are just some that doesn't 561 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: even get into what the two hundred chains the Vikings 562 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: just gave up on the on the running game on 563 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: the road. I mean, it's just the list is voluminous 564 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: when it comes to Yeah, I like, say, I'm on 565 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: this the ESPN show with Cam Newton in his topic 566 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: first take, Yeah, and my man's got his top hat. 567 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: See for Cam Newton, it's Halloween every day. I would 568 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: love to leave you up there with those guys. 569 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: It's Halloween every day with those top hats. 570 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: But anyway, so if I'm on that show and I'm like, hey, 571 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: this is with all due respect, but A B, C, D, E, 572 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: F and G and Detroit basically can't lose this game. Uh, 573 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: there is a lot of that bouncing around I would imagine, 574 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: so this is the use it as motivation and it's 575 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: a legitimate salvo. 576 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're talking about a lot of external communication. 577 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 6: I want to I want to know what the conversation 578 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 6: is in that locker room and in that defensive meeting room, 579 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 6: because this is a week where you get called to 580 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 6: the carpet by your coach, into the game after the 581 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 6: game last week, into the game this week. You're being 582 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 6: challenged from a manhood standpoint, a quality of play standpoint, 583 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 6: how bad do you want? 584 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: A standpoint like are you just sleeping on your checks? 585 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: Cash standpoint, like the. 586 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 6: Idea of like you have to be challenged, the idea 587 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 6: of just your ability to play football from within, from 588 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 6: the people you care about, their opinion the most, because 589 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 6: you can have an opinion of my game, and you know, 590 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 6: somebody write in the paper can have an opinion, or 591 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 6: the national pundits can have an opinion. But if my 592 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 6: coach or my peer has an opinion and they challenge 593 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 6: me on that, that's to me, what makes the game 594 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 6: so great is when the accountability and the pressure is 595 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 6: coming from within to say we have to clean this up, 596 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 6: because now let's be honest. 597 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: Jobs are one thousand percent at stake. 598 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 6: If you can't flip this and turn this around, it's 599 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 6: going to be on the coaching staff and the personnel. 600 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 6: The fact that if we don't get back or personnel, 601 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 6: we can't this can't be a yearly thing week all 602 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 6: of a sudden, can't stop the run. 603 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: It's interesting. 604 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 8: I had a long conversation yesterday in the locker room 605 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 8: with Jonathan Gernard, and I kind of view him internally 606 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 8: as one of I mean, the clear vocal, you know voice. 607 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 3: It's natural and authentic. Get him. 608 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, And he was very I mean similar to the 609 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 8: conversation you just had, like he was very upfront of 610 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 8: I mean, nobody like this has not been enjoyable. We 611 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 8: expect so much more, I mean it, and I guess 612 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 8: like it does feel like and I'm glad you you asked. 613 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 3: Chad like and brought that up the way you did. 614 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: It does feel like right. 615 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 8: Now, like the motivation and the back against the wall 616 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 8: feeling is at the highest that I can probably remember. 617 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: And it's right and right, it's not concocted. 618 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 8: And they feel that like you could feel in my 619 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 8: conversation with Grenard yesterday like that they they feel like 620 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 8: they have to prove it to themselves internally and that 621 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 8: they you know, they're not trying to prove it to 622 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 8: the world. They're just trying to prove what they feel 623 00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 8: like they are and. 624 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: They have not shown. 625 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think at the end of the day when 626 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 6: he boiled. But what football, What makes football so great 627 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 6: is it's an emotional game. And when you go on 628 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 6: the road and lose and get your butt kicked and 629 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 6: you lack of motion as a football team, like, that's 630 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 6: a problem. Now this is a response, and I'm waiting 631 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 6: to see the response, and I think we're going to 632 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 6: learn a lot about our football team this week, I agree, 633 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 6: And how much passion they have the coaching staff. 634 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's important week for us 635 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: in several levels. 636 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 7: It's a very different circumstances. Two thousand and nine, you 637 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 7: go to the NFC title game, and I know twenty 638 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 7: ten had a bunch of weird oddities, including some off 639 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 7: field related bits. 640 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: What do you mean the dome collapsed but you know 641 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: certain scourger. Yeah, all kinds of funny mans. But Snapchat 642 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 3: not being invented, or you win the Super Bowl. 643 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 7: The reason that comes to mind For me, though, is 644 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 7: the idea that two thousand and nine, albeit it ends tragically, 645 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 7: the build up into twenty ten, we were so close. 646 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 7: Now we're going to run through that door in twenty ten, and. 647 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: Then it started scale. It was weird. 648 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 7: There were just bad things had We had injuries, We 649 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 7: had all sorts of things ultimately bred excuse me, Brett 650 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 7: hitting his head via Corey Wooton on the college stadium 651 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 7: field and his career is over. Is there any how 652 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 7: do you what was it like at that time where 653 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 7: you felt like you were in quicksand you guys probably 654 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 7: had moments like this team is experiencing in the locker 655 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 7: room now. 656 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: It just never you were never able to get out 657 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: of it and move forward. For yeah, it's the two 658 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 3: steps forward to three steps back. Bit. 659 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 6: I mean, you can go and you can do all 660 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 6: the right things and say the right things, and go 661 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 6: to practice and practice the right things and be on 662 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 6: your stuff, and things simply may not go your way. 663 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to the NFL. 664 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 6: Things happened, the dome collapses, coach get fired, Randy Moss. 665 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: Bit, I mean it's a whole thirty for thirty on 666 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: the twenties ten season. 667 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 6: So the reality is is and things can slide quick right, 668 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 6: oh nine Championship game, twenty ten, coaches fired, we move 669 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 6: on path, The organization completely flips and changes. 670 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: It happens fast. 671 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 6: I think the most important thing is at that point 672 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 6: we had a really veteran team and it was going 673 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 6: to start to flip. 674 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: In this case right now. 675 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 6: That you can make an argument is like this team 676 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 6: is ready to win now, right, so we want Yeah, 677 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 6: it's an older roster. So dare you say, like these 678 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 6: next two years are really important or do you slide 679 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 6: the other direction like that happened in twenty ten, which 680 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 6: takes you to twenty eleven and twelve and thirteen, which 681 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 6: were just a mass other than the Agrian year. In 682 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 6: twenty twelve we has hand evolved him seven hundred times 683 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 6: and it worked out great. But the reality is this 684 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 6: is a slippery slope. And if you go laying negga 685 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 6: Detroit this season is over, you mean get blown out, yep. 686 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 6: And and no only that, but just you can lose 687 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 6: in a tough way. But you watch as a fan, 688 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 6: be like they gave everything. 689 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: They got today. Yeah, yeah, and I think it's a fight. 690 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: I think it's a fan. You always appreciate that. Right. 691 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 3: If I'm watching now as a fan, I'm like, you 692 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: can tell when the team quits, Like. 693 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 8: The Chargers game, you start to see the flicker of yeah, 694 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 8: like is the like go going out? 695 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look at the Dolphins last night. Yeah, that is 696 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 3: a team where it is freaking it's it's over a 697 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: big way. Yeah, And I think you can feel that 698 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: from a fan base. You can feel that from the 699 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 3: locker room, from the coaches. 700 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, the owner spends a couple more 701 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 6: days in the office, you know, next week, and everybody 702 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 6: feels a little bit of pressure, and all of a sudden, 703 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 6: my job's at risk, and all of a sudden that 704 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 6: thing slides quick. I think this is a man demand 705 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 6: conversation of it's time to buck up and be a 706 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 6: pro and we got to go put our best foot forward. 707 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 8: Can you feel that slide in the moment or does 708 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 8: it just happen and then you're looking back on it. 709 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 6: You I always took it like this is I have 710 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 6: to make sure I take care of my stuff, sure, 711 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 6: because at the end of the not it's not a 712 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 6: selfish thing. 713 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: It's more of a if I take care of my 714 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: p's and q's and I'm on my stuff. 715 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 6: It allows me to be the best version of myself, 716 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 6: which in turn, you hope rubs off on the other guys. 717 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 6: And I think that's you know, that's how you probably 718 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 6: stay in the locker room for eleven years. Yeah, but 719 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 6: not everybody has that mentality because all of a sudden 720 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 6: they're starting to think about a vacation and I'm making 721 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 6: this much money next year anyways, and they're paying me regardless. 722 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: Like natural human in some way thoughts. 723 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, But I think when you have a tighter group, 724 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 6: and you have a good locker room, and you have 725 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 6: a good staff, which I believe we have all those things. 726 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 3: I don't think that happens as this football team. 727 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 7: One thing into Sunday's game for this team win or lose. 728 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 7: We were talking about priorities at the opening the show, 729 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 7: and you watch JJ those first two games and now 730 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,479 Speaker 7: McCarthy's going to get another chance. Take two, twenty twenty 731 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 7: five edition with McCarthy. 732 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: Is there one. 733 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 7: Particular thing that you took out of those first two 734 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 7: games where it's like, if I could see this on 735 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 7: Sunday at Ford Field, part of that turning a corner 736 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 7: one way or another, hopefully it's in the winner circle. 737 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 7: But either way, one thing you see from JJ on Sunday, 738 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,479 Speaker 7: that's like, all. 739 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 3: Right, I think there's a light on upstairs there. I 740 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 3: want to see the ball out of his hand. Quicker, 741 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 3: we know we have our issues. 742 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 6: Get the ball of his hand and put it in 743 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 6: the playmaker's hands and let them make place. I think 744 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 6: that's number one. His accuracy within those throws is going 745 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 6: to be really important. And this is gonna be really 746 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 6: dumb to say, because this is a kid coming off 747 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 6: an injury and had missed. 748 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 3: The whole year. I want to see them be creative 749 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,479 Speaker 3: with the play calling of what he can. 750 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 6: Do, which is run the football, which is give people 751 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 6: rpo looks that we've been getting hit on for years 752 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 6: that we can now do. Freeze that outside linebacker and 753 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 6: give Jaj the ball the chance to slide and gain 754 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 6: five on first down. Like to me, I know that's 755 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 6: the dumb thing to say to a kid coming off injury, 756 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 6: but you either go play to win the game or 757 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 6: you go play it will not lose. And to me, 758 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 6: we go open the play a calling. We allow him 759 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 6: to do what he does. Because the kids athletic and 760 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 6: all of a sudden you run for five, you might 761 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 6: get a little hit. 762 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: Now you're in the game, you're in the flow. You 763 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 3: go make a play. 764 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: Chad Greenway, former linebacker for the Minnesota Vikings. Courtesy of 765 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 2: Great Duck Vodka and Great Duck Spirits. Chad was part of. 766 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: Chad was part of something very strange in a game 767 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: against the Detroit Lions back in the day. We will 768 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: share that and to continue to analyze this contest around 769 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: the corner when we continue at Buffalo Wild Wings, Jan 770 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: Hassen for the Friday Football. 771 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 3: Give it to us on KFA N. 772 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Buffalo Wild Wing Jan Assen for the 773 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: Friday Football Feast. 774 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 3: One of your biggest fans. 775 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: In fact, somebody who has a game, warn what what 776 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 2: number did you wear at at Iowa? 777 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 3: Six? You can act like you don't know what was 778 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 3: it at Iowa? 779 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 2: So like I watched you were there in Iowa was 780 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: focusing on Abdul Hodge man smart guy. 781 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 3: Eighteen eighteen. I was promised number eight of my recruiting visit. 782 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 6: I was a no star recruit, so when I got there, 783 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 6: eight turned into eighteen road j somehow, Yeah. 784 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 3: Pretty good number. 785 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 2: Somebody somebody who has game worn eighteen's from uh from 786 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: Iowa City and actually so they were selling those things. 787 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Yeah, you didn't get any money for it? 788 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, no. 789 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: I think he and his family took a trip to 790 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 2: Korea or Taiwan and they had a bunch of them 791 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: there and he came back with once and it's just 792 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 2: it's a little small, but that's okay. And secondly, maybe 793 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: some game more than fifty twos from the Purple and 794 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: Gold days. Somebody I know of whom you're very fond 795 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 2: Johnny the Mouse Michelson, captain of the eighty three Wisetta 796 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 2: club hockey team, the most formidable club hockey team in 797 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 2: the history of club hockey. In fact, he wore the 798 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 2: seat for this club hockey team. You know him, right, Yes, well, 799 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: he reminds me that in I'm not sure the year, 800 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 2: but do you remember when you intercepted a pass against 801 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: the Lions in the second quarter and you returned it 802 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: to the lions eighteen yard line? All right, everybody go crazy? 803 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: Stuff like that? Oh nine the Vikings offense. Then you 804 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: took over in the red zone. You had a chance 805 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 2: to score, but committed multiple penalties and had a sack 806 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: and went back to the forty yard line and we 807 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 2: punted and you find it. 808 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my last That was my last pick 809 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 3: of my career. Are you kidding? 810 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: You know? 811 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: It was the US Bank my last year. You picked 812 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 3: them off. Get down to the red zone, sky yu, ma, 813 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 3: here we go hit it. I hit to hit him 814 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 3: with one of these. 815 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 6: It didn't work. Shocking at thirty four years old. Whoever 816 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 6: it was, got shepherded out of bounce. We go backwards 817 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 6: thirty yards, pumped the ball, probably probably kicked it in 818 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 6: the end zone. 819 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: Touched back yeah, then probably rip brief. 820 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 6: I think I took it to the nineteen and they 821 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 6: got the ball in the twenty when it was done, 822 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 6: so we actually lost the yard. 823 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good. 824 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for some mouse brings that up occasionally and 825 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 2: and for some reason I can't remember that, but it's 826 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: such an astounding moment. 827 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, why didn't you get to the end zone 828 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 3: at that stage of your career? You did? You did before? Four? 829 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 3: Go to a four six? I had a back, I 830 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 3: had a hammy, I had four kids. 831 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you used all that sweet on that Chargers 832 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 7: pick six that you at the College Stadium. Didn't cost 833 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 7: accidentally like a security guard that was. 834 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: Gerald Hodges, Harold Dodgers, h erld Hoigh. Yeah, and props 835 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: and and there's video of this, by the way, you 836 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 2: might have to look hard for it. Props to the 837 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 2: to the yellow jacket security person at what was then 838 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 2: TCF Bank Stadium, because there was a lot going on 839 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 2: in that play. Philip rivers right to Greenway. He gets 840 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 2: to the house from like eighty crowd sideline. Crowd's going yeah, 841 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: the sideline was unbelievable. Crowd's going nuts. The security person 842 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 2: back right to the end zone, making sure nobody runs 843 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: on the field, never turned around to look at the play. Focus, 844 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean totally focused, I feely even when Gerald Hodge 845 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 2: is a former linebacker trying to celebrate jumps, doesn't see 846 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,479 Speaker 2: said security person buries the person into the wall. 847 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 3: Even a fan. 848 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 6: Last night, I brought this up, and sad man, is 849 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 6: that the one where it took you like thirty minutes 850 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 6: to get the end zone? I was like, well, twenty 851 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 6: seven minutes, But I said, what you forget about was 852 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 6: like what seemed like a twenty play drive to get there. 853 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 6: So I'm already gassed. I catch this thing on the nine, 854 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 6: I'm thinking, really, I angle right sudden, There's no way 855 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 6: I can't get tackled. 856 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 3: If I fall. Now it's me tripping. I have to 857 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 3: go the whole way. Score it. It was great. 858 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 7: You think about just kind of taking a breath and 859 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 7: just stepping out, I mean. 860 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 6: Did I And then when I got one of my 861 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 6: favorite moments of my careers, I got a he is 862 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 6: a loose call, that's right, and it was the best. 863 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 6: It was way better than any of Adrians Adrian's runs. Ever, 864 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 6: let's be honest, and I got that, which is yeah, 865 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 6: which I love. I have that audio all right on 866 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 6: my phone. 867 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 8: The greenway at the feast is you just bring up 868 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 8: memories and him getting roast. 869 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: But these are good ones though, Yeah, right, they are good. 870 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 3: That's what happens when the squad's three and four. 871 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 6: Now, if if nord so Nordo did't produce a show 872 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 6: obviously because actually it's absolutely negative clump, fourth and twenty 873 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 6: bills action like all the stuff that this that you 874 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 6: just regurgitated every he. 875 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 2: Got terrorism out and Scott Chandler catches a stray. 876 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 3: Out of nowhere. 877 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 7: Times bad times, final season. You got to pick against 878 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 7: the Lions. You may have also had Eric Swoop in 879 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 7: the Colts game. Oh end in my career, I run. 880 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 7: I mean in my mind, not in anybody. 881 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,959 Speaker 3: It didn't actually because that could have played again. 882 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 7: That was Adrian's final game too. 883 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, average thirteen plays a game that season. 884 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 6: That was the best they still paid me. I was like, wait, 885 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 6: I thought I had to play every snap of the 886 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 6: game to get paid. No, it's gonna pay thirteen. I 887 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 6: got a serious question for you. And this is actually 888 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 6: after talking to some people over the course. So since 889 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 6: the Chargers game, uh, this jumbo package bit jumbo packages 890 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 6: are becoming quite on vogue around the National Football League. 891 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 6: So you know, in our fishball, we see what we 892 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 6: see under our rock, and that generally is, oh, you're 893 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 6: in Dublin, you know, just trying to maybe have a pint, 894 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 6: pop around to uh some pubs and have a good 895 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 6: time and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers. Uh until you see 896 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 6: tackle Spencer Anderson joined six to seven, befeating tight end 897 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 6: Darnell Washington, and then Kenneth Gangwell. Kenneth Kangwell has the 898 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 6: best rushing game of his career. All right, So then 899 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 6: you move forward and the Judkins from Ohio State does 900 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 6: his thing between the tackles and wide, and then you 901 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 6: get to then you get to the Philly game and 902 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 6: they bring in extra offensive lineman Fred Johnson. 903 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 2: All right, complete run, look down in distance, whole thing 904 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: deep shot. Aj Brown six, Ok, dope, got you play. 905 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 2: Whole Thing's not beautiful, but it was beautiful. And then 906 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 2: you get to the Chargers game. Scott Mattlock. This one 907 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 2: got me because forty four Scott Mattlock is. They seldomly 908 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 2: used fallback, all right. I mean if it's Nasee Harris 909 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: or if it's Omari in Hampton, the North Carolina rookie, they. 910 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 3: Didn't even use him that. They didn't use him that 911 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 3: much with them. 912 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 2: Well, they they played him thirty eight plays the three 913 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: games up to the Vikings game. They played this beefeater 914 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 2: forty one plays in the Vikings game. Why because they 915 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 2: couldn't stop him. And I'm so glad when it comes 916 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 2: to run defense and the handling of these jumbo packages, 917 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 2: because here it comes again, Dan Skipper. I mean, the 918 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 2: Lions are og with the jumbo by the way, Skipper 919 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: was doing it before. You know, while my man Matt 920 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 2: Locke was trying to do something to Boise State with 921 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 2: Ashton Genty. So they're og with the jumbo. Here it comes. 922 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: They got a tie end named Ross Dwellie doesn't play 923 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 2: a ton right, He'll play a ton this weekend. Rock 924 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: Right's got a little blocking to him. I guess, so 925 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 2: does Laporta. Laporta is actually a nice all around player. 926 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 3: Here it comes again. 927 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 2: But what you said earlier with Nordo is so true man, 928 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 2: I tried to share it a little bit like late 929 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 2: last week. Coaches, I can't speak for players, but over 930 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 2: the years, Zimmer probably was ten of ten with this 931 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: Leslie Frazier. 932 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 3: It would get to him too. When you get run 933 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 3: on and you can't stop it. 934 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 2: That bugs coaches more than anything I've seen, and that 935 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: includes turnovers and procedural penalties because it's basically, week after 936 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: week you're in the squared circle, everybody has boxing gloves on, 937 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 2: and you're getting knocked out every single week with roundhouses, 938 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 2: jabs and upper cut. So like, how does that slow 939 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 2: this week? In this jumbo package bit? And in fairness, 940 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: Van Ginkol should be back in the equation. That's huge, 941 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 2: first of all. Second of all, when you talk about 942 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 2: the run game not being able to stop it. It's 943 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 2: like being the weakest guy at the armrestley match. Right, 944 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 2: You're gonna get called out by everybodycause everybody wants an 945 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 2: easy win all of a sudden. The only way to 946 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 2: get better is that is to go win some matches, right, 947 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 2: to go one on one with somebody and win. I think, 948 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 2: at the end of the day is it's a mindset. 949 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 2: And I think when a coach gets so offended by that, 950 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 2: especially you. 951 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 6: Think about zim Er Fraser defensive minded coaches when they've 952 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 6: at defense that's not physical enough to hope against the run, 953 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 6: it's an indictment on them as a coach. Now koc 954 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,479 Speaker 6: offensive coach, quarterback likes to throw the football. There's different 955 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 6: ways to win a football game. Team has built differently. 956 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 6: This now kind of falls into the Flores category. A 957 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 6: defensive coordinator and how personal is he taken it? Because 958 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 6: that's at the end of the day, Like Flora's has 959 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 6: been historically good in a lot of different places, done 960 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 6: really good here. 961 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 3: But what's he known for. Is he known for having 962 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 3: the just. 963 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 6: To sheer run stopping defense, physical up front. No, it's creativity, 964 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 6: it's blitz packages, it's being creative with his personnel. I 965 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 6: would never think of his game and his calling style 966 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 6: and his personnel style is we're gonna stop the run 967 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 6: to be physical and we're gonna beat up a line 968 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 6: of scrimmage and then we'll figure everything else out. No, 969 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 6: it's not that it's exotic looks. It's covered the back end. 970 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 6: We're gonna send pressure. So when you get creative and 971 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 6: all of a sudden that's not working, you can't fall 972 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 6: back to what you built in training camp because you 973 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 6: never built it. If you never built that base of 974 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 6: we're gonna beat you up first, you can't go find 975 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 6: that week seven. You have to have that ingrained in 976 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 6: your DNA from the beginning. I think that's I'm not 977 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 6: saying it's a it's a problem, but it's becoming a 978 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 6: problem because Detroit built it how when we had the 979 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 6: Williams Williams Wall, we built it how Day one, We're 980 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 6: gonna install our run defense with our base fundamental packages, 981 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 6: and you will not beat us with that. 982 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in my gap. I'm gonna spill the 983 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 3: ball to the DJ's and run on at the top 984 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 3: of me. Ben's gonna take care of the backside. 985 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 6: We're gonna have every guy and there's in there gap 986 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 6: except for Chart who's probably in the wrong spot for 987 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 6: him too. But the reality is is when you build 988 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 6: it that way, the first day of pads and training 989 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 6: camp is goal line and short yardage. We're setting the 990 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 6: tone with the front. You could fall back and get 991 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 6: exotic and get creative. But if you can never do that, 992 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 6: you can't go find that week seven because everybody's beat up, 993 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,720 Speaker 6: we're hurt. We can't go toe to toe in pads 994 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 6: week seven and learn something about each other. 995 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 3: You have to set up from the beginning. 996 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 2: If I'm you, i email Holly today, she'll probably get 997 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 2: you up to Saint Cloud for about fifty large. 998 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you're firing bullets today. He's on fire. 999 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 7: I'm glad you mentioned Flores though, because this is an 1000 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 7: interesting matchup. I know Ben Johnson is gone, but Flora 1001 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 7: has so many good things, and I know the bottom's 1002 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 7: kind of falling out with the rush defense this year. 1003 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 7: But I would say the Lions have had Flores' number 1004 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 7: specifically over the last three seasons, maybe than any other team. 1005 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 3: And we're seeing no matter the personnel too, and that's. 1006 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 7: The key we're inverting safety is a couple of years 1007 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 7: ago and it's Amonra uncovered. 1008 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 3: We're seeing absolute atrocious tackling. 1009 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 7: I think Gibbs is about to be stopped for again 1010 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 7: of seven suddenly it's a fifty. 1011 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 3: Six yard touchdown. 1012 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 7: No matter what Flores through at Ben Johnson, he solved 1013 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 7: it and Gibbs himself eight or nine tds in like 1014 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 7: the last two or three games. If somebody's offended in 1015 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 7: that house, it's gotta be Flores. We can focus on 1016 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 7: Darnold in the red zone last year in the finale 1017 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 7: and all of those things Ben Johnson and now I 1018 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 7: hope Johnny Morton isn't the same, but I mean they've 1019 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 7: had our number, and specifically Flores's number, maybe more so 1020 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 7: than anybody else in the league. 1021 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 2: And to amplify that, and I think Alex Lewis can 1022 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 2: validate it from film watching. Outside of the money Cam 1023 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 2: bind him got with Indianapolis, I can argue the final 1024 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: two games against the Lions ran Cam buying him out 1025 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 2: of town. Jamiir Gibbs ran him out of town because 1026 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 2: I mean with Paul due respect to Cam and we're 1027 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 2: quite fond of Cam, very nice man. 1028 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 3: So it's not the personals business here. I mean, we're talking. 1029 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 2: About three four, five awful angles against Gibbs or whomever, 1030 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he's gone in free agency. 1031 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 3: You know, so, I think it's on a. 1032 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 6: Really good well to your point, why is it hard? 1033 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 6: First of all, this is you know, you have to 1034 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 6: look at how we're losing football games. Is this an 1035 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 6: indictment on Flores? I think in some cases it has 1036 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 6: to be. I'm sure he's taking it that way. I 1037 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 6: love Bryan Flores. I think it is a great football coach, 1038 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 6: one of the one of the best defensive coordinators in 1039 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 6: the game. But at this point, right now, with the 1040 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 6: personnel we have what he's operating with, do you have 1041 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 6: to change your mindset and mentality towards how your calling plays. 1042 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 3: The second thing is why does Detroit? Why is it 1043 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 3: so hard for us to beat them? 1044 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 6: When you can run the football and then have one 1045 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,240 Speaker 6: of the best play action passing games in the league. 1046 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 6: It's complimentary football. I'm gonna hand it, get four on 1047 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 6: first down, get six, get a first down, move the chains. 1048 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 6: I'm going to play action pass. Now of a sudden, 1049 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 6: you're sucked up because you can't stop the run. 1050 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw over the top. Yeah, I'm you know. 1051 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 3: So it's complimentary football. They've built it the right way. 1052 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,240 Speaker 6: The play calling fits that, and if you can't stop 1053 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,240 Speaker 6: a they're gonna get be easy. All of a sudden, 1054 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 6: I'm not as worried about your running game because I 1055 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 6: got you. First of all, we're playing ahead. Can our 1056 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 6: offense stay on the field. Those are all things we 1057 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 6: talked about off air. That that matters the moment. 1058 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 3: The other thing Brian Flores talked about earlier this week. 1059 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 8: Was that, Brian, you know, this Lion's offense has been together, 1060 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 8: Jared Goff, the offensive line, aman Ra Jamison, so they 1061 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 8: can adapt. And Brian Flaworer is like, they can go 1062 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 8: back to something they did against US two years ago 1063 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 8: and have recalled. 1064 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 3: To adapt end game. 1065 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 8: And that's where this Vikings defense like, there are different pieces, 1066 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 8: so the continuity isn't the same to be able to 1067 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 8: adapt the way they have. 1068 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 3: Especially when you don't have a Van Ginkle. So I 1069 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 3: think that's also been. 1070 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 8: Part of why they've had so much success against the 1071 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 8: Vikings is they've been able to adjust an adapt in 1072 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 8: game because of the aptitude of their players and the continuity, 1073 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 8: and that's played a role too, Like I imagine you 1074 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 8: had experience. 1075 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,879 Speaker 6: Well, you mentioned Dan Skipper and what's about to happen 1076 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 6: this week? Yi, I met Dan Skipper is about to 1077 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 6: have that is a mountain of him gigantic. 1078 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 3: I met him. I'm like, what is this? Okay? So, 1079 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 3: but the reality is this, Why are they doing that? 1080 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 6: Because at the end of the day, they know that 1081 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 6: they line up your limited package with those extra linemen 1082 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 6: are in there, you have a limited package. You have 1083 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 6: a couple of pass plays off of that, a trick them, 1084 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 6: a goddam plays, a couple of man routes. But they're 1085 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 6: doing it because they say we're gonna line up, You're 1086 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 6: not going to stop us M and then tell you 1087 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 6: do that. Why would you go away from it. I'm 1088 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 6: gonna hand it to my running back who's really good. 1089 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 6: The chance of been fumbling is low. You can't stop us. 1090 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 6: We're gonna keep extending to change. Your defense is gonna 1091 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 6: stay on the field and get soft and ringing the 1092 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 6: fourth quarter. So again, now go back to what I 1093 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 6: said about JJ running the football, RPOs, quick out of 1094 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 6: the hand, extend drives, keep your offense on the field, 1095 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 6: got and do a rhythm as a play caller. That 1096 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 6: helps your defense more than anything is because they're fresh 1097 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 6: and it keeps the Detroit offense on the sidelines. 1098 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 3: Can we do that for what? For what? Once? This 1099 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 3: season might be the first? Can we go control the 1100 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 3: game hasn't happened yet, You're elite. Anything with Gray Duck 1101 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,879 Speaker 3: or Gray Duck Spirits is selling the hoodies, Yeah, we're 1102 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 3: selling the hoodies. 1103 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 6: Finally got the Legends hoodies on this on this uh 1104 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 6: on the site sout the Legends hoodie. 1105 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 3: So what's that includes. 1106 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,919 Speaker 2: Kylie Wong and Kenny on a toolo yes not long 1107 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 2: and Benley the other two. 1108 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 6: And I'm actually gonna go to Top ten Liquors in 1109 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 6: chan Hassen right now. Sign some bottles, lead to put 1110 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 6: stuff there in products. So top ten Liquor chan Hassen, 1111 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 6: a bunch of signed botts and great up, come support, 1112 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 6: love it, thank you, and. 1113 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 2: Before you leave, make sure you watch NFL Network. Man 1114 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 2: Tito is dressed and like I gasped a couple of 1115 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 2: times when you were preaching football there because I just 1116 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 2: saw him make two of the greatest h imaginary tackles 1117 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 2: for memory Lop I've ever seen, well time you had. 1118 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 3: To do it. 1119 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 8: I will say the thoughts on the wrong game like 1120 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 8: that is that is the conversation that should be happened. 1121 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 3: Hey, that was really good a topic. Chack Greenway. Ladies 1122 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 3: and gentlemen, can I get. 1123 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: A win. 1124 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 3: Around the corner? 1125 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,760 Speaker 2: We settle into the fantasy football feast at ten o'clock. 1126 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 2: Then some bike spits about ten twenty Jason Hatch want 1127 00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:00,439 Speaker 2: to stand up? I want to stand up. Buffalo Wings 1128 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,839 Speaker 2: chan ass him. That's our eleven am guest right there, 1129 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 2: What do you think God? Vikings fans? Are you so 1130 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 2: stuck at three and four you can't even booth the 1131 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 2: knucklehead Midwestern sensibilities? I know, boy, that's super special. There 1132 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 2: we go, Gray Area wins a lot. All right, we'll 1133 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 2: be right back