1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Thursday's right now we talk about tech. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: The machines are getting smarter. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: This is tech Talk, brought to you by Skynet. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 3: Mark Saltzman joins us and Mark. It is the holiday 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 3: season and we'll look at that AI making a name 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 3: for itself, the Architects of AI being named the person 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: of the Year for Time magazine in twenty twenty five 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 3: Disney Investing. No I'm not. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm surprised it wasn't three years ago, but it. 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 4: Would be ironic if Time crowned AI as the person 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 4: of the year since it's artificial intelligence, but it's the 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 4: architects of AI is really what they're shining a light on. 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: So yeah, so folks like Jensen Huang Ar Wong, however 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: you like to pronounce it, the head of Nvidia, I think, 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: eighth richest person on the planet and behind the company 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: that is the first the world's first five trillion dollar company, 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: and VideA as well as on the cover there's a 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: Lun Musk and Sam Altman from Open Ai and Zuckerberg 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: of course from Meta. 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 5: So yeah, they're acknowledging that the world. 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 4: Has significantly changed in twenty twenty five, with almost a 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 4: billion people using AI. 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 5: Now that's like one eighth of the world's. 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 4: Entire population, leveraging tools like chat, GPT, Google, Gemini, Grock and. 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 5: So on to get work done. Come. 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, all right, right, write their bosses 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 4: convincing emails on why they can't show up to work. 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're using it for, aren't we 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: Still I find myself trying to make sure that I'm 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: not using AI if I'm looking for a search into 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: different you know, in any sort of browser. I'm trying 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: to you're other one, Well, I understand the what's the word, 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: the convenience, great word. I understand the convenience of it, 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: But I don't want to give AI any more speed 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: than it's already gotten. Yeah, and granted me one out 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: of like you mentioned, one out of a billion people 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: who's not using it isn't going to slow it down 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: very much. 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: So, look, I mean search engines have evolved now, both 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 4: being in Google where you don't even have to go 42 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: to the website that you planned on visiting, which is 43 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 4: not good for those who run those websites and rely 44 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: on traffic and the advertising surrounding it, because you'll get 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: your results before you go there and there's a lawsuit 46 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: going on in the EU, not surprisingly about this. But yeah, 47 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: when you're a user of AI, you are getting what 48 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: you want really fast. But yeah, you're trying not to 49 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: contribute to this AI takeover. Well it's happening. You are 50 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 4: in the minority. I'm not saying you're wrong. 51 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 5: I hear you. It's both scary. I mean even the 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 5: time editors said the same thing. 53 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: They called AI both and I quote, the most consequ 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: consequential tool that's both exciting and frightening. 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 5: And it's true. 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, I know you're trying not to give credence 57 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 4: to it or to rely to heavily on it. 58 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 5: I'm surprised that. 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: Even in radio you and Shannon, aren't you you're not 60 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: using AI to write some content that you want to 61 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: say on the air. 62 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 5: It's so easy. You can do it in a commercial break. 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 5: It's a thirty second. 64 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: All the AI content that is mistakenly given to us 65 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: in a form of news articles is awful and I 66 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: would never even use and iota of it. 67 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 4: You still have to vet the content without question, and 68 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: people ask me all the time every day. I get 69 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: this now because I'm a journalist do use. 70 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 5: AI to write your articles? 71 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 3: No? 72 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 5: Do I use it for research? Yes? It can it 73 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 5: be relied upon. No, like you have to. 74 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: You have to do your due diligence and cross reference 75 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: everything you read because they call it hallucinations when AAI 76 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: tells you something that they that it maintains is factual 77 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: when it's not because it got the source information wrong, 78 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: or how it's it's aggregating and processing the information is wrong. 79 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: But it will tell you definitively this is true when 80 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 4: it is not. So you still have to put some 81 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: hi human intelligence behind the AI that many of us 82 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: are using. 83 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 5: But you know, and I know where you guys are 84 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 5: with the. 85 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: Hollywood community understandably very concerned about AI replacing their jobs 86 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: and also things like, you know, copyright infringement since people 87 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: can create content now with seemingly no respect on the 88 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: whoever owns those intellectual properties. But you probably heard today 89 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: that Walt Disney and open Ai announced this like landmark 90 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: announcement about a huge partnership which I don't think anybody 91 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: saw coming. Apparently, Bob Iger said that this has been 92 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: in the works for a while, but they're partnering with 93 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 4: open ai around its Sora tool, which is to create 94 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: video content where people can now or next year rather 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: be able to use familiar. 96 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 5: Faces i e. 97 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: Disney, Marvel, Star Wars, Pixar characters to create content and 98 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: even have it streamed on Disney Plus if it's good enough. 99 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: That's huge because instead of shunning AI, the creative community 100 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: it seems, is embracing it with some safeguards. 101 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: As you can imagine, you can't do anything. 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: And appropriate with dat mouse the idea of safeguards though, 103 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 2: that's I mean, we're already talking. 104 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: We talked yesterday. 105 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: Open ai has been writing laws that they or I 106 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: should say proposed laws here in California that they would 107 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: like to, you know, offer up as safeguards, but you 108 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: can't have I think we said this yesterday, the fox 109 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: guarding the henhouse in. 110 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: This Yeah, yeah, that's a good, good analogy. 111 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 112 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: Look, and I think I mentioned this on a previous 113 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 4: tech Talk segment with you that I've found my own 114 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 4: articles like clips from me, things that I've written, dished 115 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: to me, like regurgitated to me as if it was 116 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: open AI's content. 117 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 5: But it's mine. 118 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: But they took it from an article that I wrote, 119 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: maybe for USA Today or for Yahoo or AARP wherever. 120 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 4: But yeah, it copyright infringement is a huge issue. But 121 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 4: I guess if you can't beat them, join them is 122 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: maybe the mentality. It's a billion dollar investment as well. 123 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: Buy Disney into open AI, not that they need more money, 124 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 4: but it's also giving anybody who works at the Disney 125 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 4: company free access to the most powerful tools, you know, again, 126 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 4: access to the Sora generated videos that can be streamed 127 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: on Disney. Plus they're getting something out of it, no doubt, 128 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 4: but it's probably because they can't fight it unless legislation 129 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 4: takes it down, takes these companies down for violating copyrights. 130 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 4: But the creative community as equally as concerned understandably about 131 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: AI writing screenplays and being used to create videos like 132 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 4: a computer generated content, you know, instead of having a 133 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: human do it. 134 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 5: You know. 135 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: So it's it's a really tricky twenty twenty six is 136 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 4: going to be interesting. 137 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: Let's just say that. Yeah, okay, I'm going to watch 138 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: your lawsuit Carey. 139 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: Yeah please, you know it, you know it, right, But yeah, 140 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: it's a blessing and a curse. This this AI is 141 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: just like when the Internet came out. I said, I 142 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 4: wrote the same thing. So I've been a journalist since 143 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: the early nineties. I said, this is depending on what 144 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: your occupation is. This is either going to be amazing 145 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: or frightening. And this is I think AI is as 146 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: significant as the Internet for sure. Wow all right, Mark, 147 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: great stuff, Thank you, thank you, have a great afternoon, 148 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: you too. 149 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 2: Mark Saltzman there right. Sure you follow Mark on social media. 150 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: X is probably the best way to do it. 151 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: M A. R. 152 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: C Underscore Saltsman with a Z.