1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden show. You like it, you 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: love it, you want more of it. The number to call, 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: like I said, is eight three three four one two WXDX. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be joined by Mike the course of the 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Sporting News to talk Tomlin. 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: He's a Tomlin guy. 7 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: At three thirty Steelers, I mean, but that'll be the 8 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: the the argumentative points. And then at four o'clock, very 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: excited if Penguin was looking ben Kindall at four point thirty, 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: equally excited to have Stanley Cup champion. 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Tyler Kennedy. 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Kennedy since that guy quit mister Kennedy then he became 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: mister Anderson in another company. I was bad pr for TK. 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: No more Kennedy. But let's talk Steelers. That Colts game. 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Like I said before, it's it's it's just I mean, 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: we all know how it's gonna end. The only hope 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: is that the field's so bad and there's so much 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: sand on it that it slows Jonathan Taylor, don maybe 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: you know what they should do, put like a pit 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: of quicksand speaking of blazing saddles, which I referenced before, 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,639 Speaker 1: and Taylor could just disappear and not be heard from again. 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: But this game against Indie at Aquasure, it's like discussing 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: an alien invasion or a big natural disaster or an 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: epidemic or a nuclear bomb. Okay, here's what's coming, and 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: you can't stop it. I'm stunned that the Steelers are 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: only three point underdogs. In fact, it's time to get 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: on the bet Park sports book right now, mooie pronto 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: and make a bet because this is gonna be U 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: g l y. You ain't got no alibi. That defense sucks, yeah, yeah, yeah, 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: it sucks. Yeah yeah. Tomlin explain having only ten men 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: on the field for that two point conversion by Green 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Bay by talking about and I quote transition components whatever 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: that means. And the defense only let up a few 34 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: bad third don conversions according to Tomlin. 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: And he also said you need touchdowns instead of field goals. 36 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: So basically what Tomlin is saying is if it wasn't 37 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: for a few bad breaks, the Steelers would be seven 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: to zero. 39 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: Transitional components. 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody else does all kinds of lists and not Rushmore's. 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 1: How about this, We should rate the Steeler scapegoats top 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: ten scapegoats for the way things are going currently Number 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: one by far is Tomlin. Number two, I'd say TJ. 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: Watt representing that crappy defense and making. 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: Forty one million. 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Number three the whole defensive backfield bit slay more than 47 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: the rest because he's totally washed. That said, if you 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: put the whole defensive backfield room into a burlap sack 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: and beat it with a baseball bat, whoever got a 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: broken bone would deserve it. Number four DK Metcalf not bad, 51 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: just disappointing, and maybe it's not on him, but that's 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: too bad. Number five all the tight ends. Number six, 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: the stooge media, number seven, all the other coaches, number eight, 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: the DVE Morning Show, number nine, Peyton Wilson, and number 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: ten everybody who isn't Aaron Rodgers. So that is my 56 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: list of steel or scapegoach. You can call in now 57 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: to add on at eight three, three, four one two 58 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: w XDX. I want to revisit something I talked about 59 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: in the opening segment two and I heard this discussed 60 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: on another program, and it really is fertile territory. Miles 61 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Garrett lines up on lines up all over the place, 62 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: not just in one spot, and often they use him 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: against the other team's weakest point in the offensive line 64 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: and he prospers because of it. Michael Parkson's the Green 65 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Bay same thing. 66 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: TJ. Watt won't do it. 67 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: They talk about it, but everybody says he doesn't feel 68 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: comfortable linding up anywhere else. Well, TJ, I don't feel 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: comfortable with you sucking at forty one million. That makes 70 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: me very uncomfortable. But they just let this guy do 71 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: whatever he wants. This guy's never won a playoff game. 72 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: This guy's a loser. He's a loser. If he was 73 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: a gym teacher, he'd put himself on one of the 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: teams in Jim class and that side would lose at dodgeball, softball, whenever, 75 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: the frig. He's a loser and I know that because 76 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't win enough. But they let him do what 77 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: he wants. It just that placed over there. I get 78 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: so steamed up talking about it. And I don't even 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: like the Steelers that much. You you, the guys should 80 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: be mad because they just don't know what they're doing. 81 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: They don't know what they're doing. 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One oh five nine The X Bagging 115 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: quarky bagging. 116 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: Great story, compelling and rich ty Exit one nine. 117 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I got nobody responding to my invitation to call up 118 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: and tell me what it feels like to know that 119 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: your Steelers are gonna get killed by Indianapolis on Sunday. 120 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: But that doesn't. 121 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: Surprise me from a fan base so disloyal that you 122 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: sold your tickets for this past Sunday Nights game and 123 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: let Green Bay Packers fans take over the stadium. You're gutless, 124 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: old yeller, ain't no dog. You know who knows Ben 125 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger knows the two time Super Bowl winning going to 126 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame quarterback Ben Knows. Here's 127 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: Ben Roethliberger's podcast with some great strategy for that Steelers defense, 128 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: not just against Indianapolis, but moving forward. 129 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 4: Well, you got a guy in Ramsey that I think 130 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: can do that. Put him in the slot and let 131 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: him cover. 132 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: The tight end. 133 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: If you've got a valuable weapon tight end, you know, 134 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: I just think that it's I think you're wasting him 135 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 4: outside on the corner position to try and lock down 136 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: one of their best wide receivers. Yeah, so that's a 137 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: change that I would make if I was a defensive 138 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: coach of the head coaches, I would I would really 139 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: focus on him. 140 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: That sounds pretty Put Jalen Ramsey in the slot. If 141 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: the other team's going to valuable weapon tight end, have 142 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Ramsey lock him down. That's just one hundred percent a 143 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: terrific idea. It's a better idea for that defense than 144 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: either Tomin or Carol Austin have had in recent memory. 145 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure they've had an idea. 146 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: They just go out there and do the same thing, 147 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: the same thing game after game play worse than the 148 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: second half because they don't adjust, which we're gonna talk about. 149 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: That's a great idea by Ben Roethlisberger because Ramsey at 150 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: thirty one, he just can't stay with the Jamar Chases 151 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: of the league anymore. The fast elite wideouts can't do it. 152 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: We've seen that. But he could stay with a good 153 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: tight end like say Tyler Larren of Indianapolis, and Ramsey 154 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: is physical enough to make it work. People have wanted 155 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: Been to be the offensive coordinator, Maybe Ben should be 156 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. And in that vein, here's more Ben 157 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: talking about what happens in the second half of Steeler games. 158 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: And then it seems like the last two weeks second 159 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: halfs have been all the other team. Yeah, none of 160 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: us now. Is that coaching? Is it players? Is it adjustments? 161 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: Is a lack of adjustments? I don't know, but it 162 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 4: just feels like the second half of ball games where 163 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: we stink and and I'm just asking a question, are 164 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: we making the proper adjustments? 165 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: A dumbfounded Ben, We stink and I don't know if 166 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: they're making adjustments. 167 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: You know, Ben, you know, and you know that they 168 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: are not. 169 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: The Steelers coaching stinks, stinks, The strategy is minimal, The 170 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,479 Speaker 1: adjustments at halftime are non existent. Halftime for the Steelers 171 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: is just the chance to pee and have a smoke. 172 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: That's it is. 173 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: The Steelers only strategy is to show up. 174 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: And be the Steelers, and it ain't working. 175 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: Uh. 176 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: I forgot to say the trifecta last hour was but 177 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: it was by Dandy's PiZZ and Hogies, which is great 178 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: on Route eighty eight in Bethel Park. 179 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: Let's go to Jeff. 180 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 5: Jeff, you're on with Mark Hey, Mark Hey, I absolutely 181 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 5: agree with you. 182 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 6: Sunday in the coach game. 183 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: I'm a big Steeler fan. I have no faith in 184 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 5: us winning that game. 185 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 6: You know, I look back at last Sunday, I'm not even. 186 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: Sure Jordan Lungy he the TJ. But even playing the 187 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 5: game that day maying sure, he breathed on him. And 188 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 5: like you said about the adjustments, where are they? You know, 189 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 5: our defense it's it's just non existent. And for Tomlin 190 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 5: to come out and say, well, you know, we got 191 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 5: to finish drives. We can't set over field goals. You 192 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 5: know that wasn't the problem. 193 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: The problem was Well, no, that that that was a problem. 194 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: But that's on him too. You can choose to go 195 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: for it on some of those fourth down's. You can't 196 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: rely on Boswell you know, every time you're close if 197 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: you don't want to. But yeah, the fact that he 198 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: never criticizes the defense first, because that's his baby, that's 199 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: absurd because it's by far the biggest problem. 200 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 6: Exactly. I'm just I'm not optimistic about a win on Sunday. 201 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 6: I think three point spread. I think that's a good 202 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 6: bet to take the Colts because I think they're gonna 203 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 6: win by a two toshdowns. 204 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: Mike, take the Colts and give the points. Get on 205 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: the bet Parks app now, thank you for the call. Okay, 206 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: up next the corseat one O five nine X the 207 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: Spirits Summer New to join us for the Exsers Halloween. 208 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: Cruise on Thursday, October thirtieth. The CRU's that sail at 209 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: eight pm. 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He is a Pittsburgher, 226 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: he writes for the Sporting News. He's the great Mike 227 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: the course. He Mike, you're a Tomlin guy. How much 228 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: blame does Tom Win get for this mess? 229 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 8: Oh? 230 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 7: I think plenty. 231 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 8: I think what what where the blame is getting mister though, 232 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 8: I strongly believe that when they made the Ramsey Smith 233 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 8: trade for Minca Fitzpatrick, look I had I have no 234 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 8: problem with trading one very good player for two very 235 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 8: good players. 236 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 7: That's usually a pretty good deal. 237 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 8: But they didn't have any backup plan for filling the 238 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 8: safety spot vacated by Menca, one other than jan Thornhill, 239 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 8: which isn't a backup plan. 240 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 7: That's a backup. 241 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: No, he's a backup, which makes backups. 242 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 8: He should be a backup and he should play three 243 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 8: snaps a game or something like that. He shouldn't be 244 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 8: out there as your regular free safety. 245 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 7: Uh and uh, you know I I have I have 246 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,359 Speaker 7: often heard. 247 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 8: Uh, the the phrase mark take the top off the defense, 248 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 8: And I never really understood exactly where that came from 249 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 8: or why it originated or how it like they're just 250 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 8: the linguistics of it, like what. 251 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 7: How does that make sense? Until I watched this. 252 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 8: Defense play and then I can see it because there 253 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 8: is It's like it's like a bottle of beer with 254 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 8: no top on it. There's nothing to prevent the flow 255 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,239 Speaker 8: of the football toward. 256 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 7: The end zone. That's that's what I see when I 257 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 7: watch these guys. 258 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: Well why is that the case? Why is that d 259 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: that bad? 260 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand what you're saying about the safety 261 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: situation that, but I ain't just. 262 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 8: That it's well it's not just that, but it is 263 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 8: a but it everything that Minka did, there was a 264 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 8: lot of criticism of him last year and the year 265 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 8: before for not getting a lot of turnovers, but he was. 266 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 7: Keeping everything together. 267 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 8: Everybody more or less, not always, but more or less 268 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 8: was where they were supposed to be. 269 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 7: And he was always where he was supposed to be. 270 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 8: And they didn't complete a lot of long passes against 271 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 8: the Steelers last year. 272 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: It took. 273 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 8: Nearly to the end of the year before somebody hit 274 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 8: one more than forty yards against them. 275 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 7: Uh. 276 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 8: And now that that doesn't that doesn't happen. There's nothing 277 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 8: stopping it. 278 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 7: It's not all of it. 279 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 8: I put some of it on Sleigh, just it's just 280 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 8: not it's not happening anymore. 281 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 7: Is he still an NFL player? 282 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 6: Yes? 283 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 7: Is he an NFL starter? Not in any way. 284 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 8: And and they they rode that much too deep into 285 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 8: this season. Brandon Eckles revealed himself to be a better 286 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 8: NFL corner today than Slay did after probably the first 287 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 8: three four weeks. And we're still we're still seeing Slay 288 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 8: out there. I don't know what will be the case 289 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 8: this week, but I'll be shocked, honestly if if Brandon 290 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 8: Echols is not the corner on that side that's getting 291 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 8: the most snaps. 292 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, just the. 293 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Whole defensive backfield, Mike. They got this dugger guy from 294 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: New englad but all he is is in dB that 295 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: other teams don't want. Did somebody cast aside? And that's 296 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: almost the old defensive backfield. 297 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 8: Isn't it Well No, I mean Joey Porter was a 298 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 8: borderline first round. 299 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the exception and not the rule. 300 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 7: What right, But then I was gonna say in Jalen Ramsey. 301 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 8: So that's two guys right there, that that's half your 302 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 8: secondary but in back and to Shaun Elliott when he 303 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 8: was healthy is a third. 304 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 7: But the problem is for me that if if you 305 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 7: have two out of the five that. 306 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 8: Aren't competent or aren't playing at the level necessary to 307 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 8: succeed against quality NFL teams, then it doesn't matter if 308 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 8: Joey Porter does his job because it's a group of effort, 309 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 8: especially given that the amount of times you're playing in 310 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 8: uh in zone coverage which is completely collective, or in 311 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 8: man demand where you. 312 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 7: Expect some help. 313 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 8: So then there's some collective uh and and it's the 314 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 8: collective doesn't happen. 315 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 7: If you get beat, you're done. 316 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 8: And that's it shouldn't be that way on every on 317 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 8: nearly every possession that the Steelers, I mean, think about 318 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 8: the two the especially the I think it was the 319 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 8: second of the two, the ball that that Jordan Love 320 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 8: just threw into the air toward the right side toward 321 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 8: his tight end. 322 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, and and and. 323 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 8: Why can you do that when you're about to get 324 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 8: sacked against the Pittsburgh Steelers because you know there isn't 325 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 8: going to be a stealer near that football when it 326 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 8: comes down. I've seen Deshaun Elliott having been described as 327 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 8: being in place to make a play. He was not 328 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 8: because if he were Mark, he would have caught it 329 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 8: or he would have at worse, knocked it to the 330 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 8: to the turf. 331 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 7: He did not. 332 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 8: He didn't do either. And it wasn't because he was 333 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 8: pushed out of the way. It was because he wasn't 334 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 8: the one who was in command of that spot. Now, 335 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't totally blame DeShawn because his primary 336 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 8: UH contribution is as a run stopping defender. But that's 337 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 8: the problem with the entire defensive backfield is that there 338 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 8: aren't enough guys out there who are who are capable 339 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 8: coverage players, whether they're safeties or corners. 340 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 7: There aren't enough on the field right now. 341 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 8: Maybe Echos changes the math on that a little bit, 342 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 8: I don't unless they execute a trade for a serious 343 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 8: safety from one of the really shot teams in the NFL, 344 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 8: I don't think that I don't think there's a the A. 345 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: I don't think Dougger saves anything. 346 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't even think getting a Hey legitimate starting safety 347 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: would do enough to upgrade the defense. I look at 348 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: that Green Bay game, Mike, and I don't care who's 349 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: out there. Something was very flawed tactically as well, because 350 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: too many of those completions Love got were easy. I 351 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: mean nobody in the area, just just incredibly easy. 352 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 8: Oh no, I agree with you, but I think that 353 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 8: having somebody like Minka, I mean, not that much has 354 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 8: changed on that defense from a year ago. 355 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 7: It's the same guys calling the plays. Whether you want 356 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 7: to put it on Mike or you want to put 357 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 7: it on the DC. 358 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 8: It's the same guys, almost all the same players on 359 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 8: the field. Ramsey's a new addition, and Sleigh as well. 360 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 8: But really the only significant change in personnel to the 361 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 8: negative is the absence of Mencap. And so that's why 362 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 8: I keep going back to that, the fact that you 363 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 8: have guys as open as were on Sunday night in 364 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 8: that second half, remember the first half, I mean they 365 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 8: weren't great because they forced a couple of field goals 366 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 8: that were missed. One of them was a Poke and 367 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 8: the other one was a chip shot or a relative 368 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 8: chip shot for an NFL guy, and he didn't make either. 369 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 8: But even if he makes both of those, the Steelers 370 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 8: still lead the game. 371 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 7: So they were certainly against the quality opponent. 372 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 8: They were well more than adequate in the first half, 373 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 8: but the second half was an abject disaster, absolutely a 374 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 8: disaster because this time, instead of the Steelers adjusting to 375 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 8: the opposition, the opposition adjusted to them and they had 376 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 8: no answer. 377 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike the course of this news. He's 378 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: brought to us by south Fields Kia. South Fields Key 379 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: has the ride in a price you'll love, Mike. I'm 380 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: really down on TJ. 381 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: Watt. 382 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: He's invisible in too many games and he won't vary 383 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: his approach like Garrett and A Parsons do. He won't 384 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: line up different places. 385 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 7: Well, that's not his decision. 386 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm told I'm told it is. I'm told 387 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: it is. 388 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm told he's uncomfortable lining up anywhere else. 389 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 8: Well, I don't think that you can. You can't certainly 390 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 8: can't freelance that. I mean, if you're saying he's going 391 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 8: to them and saying I don't want to do that, 392 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 8: that's a different story. But but he's you're you're right 393 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 8: that he's not effective. I thought early in the year, 394 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 8: when he wasn't getting sacks, he was still being disruptive 395 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 8: this game and in particular the Bengals game, to a 396 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 8: slightly lesser extent. 397 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 7: But this game was not disruptive at all, barely. 398 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 8: Made an impact, and and wasn't really even getting by 399 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 8: his guy and getting late, and sometimes you get by 400 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 8: your guy and it's just not in time to make 401 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 8: the play happen. He's not even getting by on Sunday night. 402 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 8: He was constantly being blocked. And I don't think I 403 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 8: don't know that there's a fair excuse for that Thursday 404 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 8: that Thursday night against the Bengals. They're coming off a 405 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 8: game in three you know that three days earlier. If 406 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 8: you say I was tired, okay, I'm buying it. But 407 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 8: this time you had nine days off, uh, and it 408 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 8: didn't make any difference. You weren't able to make any impact. 409 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 8: I think that he's got to be better than that. 410 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 9: For them to be better than that, how can you 411 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 9: fix that d and just that d do anything, Mike 412 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 9: to make that dent a little better and slow down 413 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 9: the Indianapolis Colts, who are a juggernaut. 414 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the Colts are playing so well. 415 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 8: Uh, They've got excellent receivers, tight end Tyler Warren is 416 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 8: doing a great job. 417 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 7: They're deep guys do a nice job. 418 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 8: Obviously, they've got the best back in the league this year, 419 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 8: and he should be an MVP candidate. Doesn't have to 420 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 8: go to a quarterback for goodness sakes. I you you 421 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 8: kind just hope that you you obviously have to get 422 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 8: yourself together, but you kind of have to hope that 423 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 8: they're that they're feeling themselves a little bit, that they're 424 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 8: not ready mentally. 425 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 7: That happens in the NFL. 426 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 8: You you usually don't see teams go ten and one 427 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 8: and maybe they just let up a little bit in 428 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 8: a game, and you hope you're the one that's the 429 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 8: beneficiary of that. Probably the Steelers won't be because of 430 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 8: the brand, because that they you know, they've this this 431 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 8: team's for for some odd reason. I mean, deb and 432 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 8: I moved to Indianapolis in twenty fourteen, and the number 433 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 8: of times these two teams have intersected since then is phenomenal, 434 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 8: given that they're not in the same division. I mean, 435 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 8: they seem to always be on the field together. So 436 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 8: I don't have super. 437 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 7: High hopes for this game in any way. 438 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 8: But I think that you have to look for some 439 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 8: level of improvement. And I also think you have to 440 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 8: look at this mark. The Steelers have to go into 441 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 8: this game playing what I call basketball. When when you 442 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 8: play in certain NFL games, if you're not playing basketball, 443 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 8: you're getting it wrong. 444 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 7: You have to go. 445 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 8: You have to go with the intent to score on 446 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 8: every single possession, right, you can't. 447 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: You can't do what they like, of course a rock fight. 448 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: It has to you have to be prepared to win 449 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: thirty three, thirty. 450 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 8: One, absolutely you're forty to thirty six like they did 451 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 8: in that in that first Bengals game last year, right, 452 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 8: you were you were going against Joe Burrow and that 453 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 8: those two wideouts, and. 454 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 7: You probably weren't going to stop them. 455 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 8: Uh, And so you got to go out there and 456 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 8: you've got to make sure that you get Yeah, do 457 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 8: you You have to play for the big stop At 458 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 8: certain levels, there might be only one or two in 459 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 8: a game, but you have to go out there and 460 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 8: you have to be gunning to score. 461 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 7: And that's one of the things that was bothersome about 462 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 7: Sunday Night. And I know that that. 463 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 8: There's been some you know, because Mike deflected to it 464 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 8: so quickly in both the post game Sunday Night and 465 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 8: in the Tuesday pressure that it agitates people. And I 466 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 8: think I understand why, but uh, they can't keep crossing 467 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 8: midfield and then start throwing the ball sideways and that 468 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 8: that that blew up almost every Well, yeah, Tom. 469 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: I was talking about about too often settling for field goals, 470 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: Well he's the guy who who ultimately makes that decision, 471 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: not only throwing the both sideways. I mean that's on 472 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: on Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator. But like there were 473 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: a couple of four down plays where in today's football 474 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: you gotta go for it because, like you said, you 475 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: got to be prepared to win a high scoring game, 476 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: you need sevens and not threes. 477 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, And I you know, I think that one 478 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 8: could have said that when they got the raw deal 479 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 8: on the off side play uh in in on the 480 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 8: first possession of the second half. I think that was 481 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 8: one where you could have gone for it because you 482 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 8: probably weren't going to keep the the Packers to uh 483 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 8: you know, you had you you got him to seven points. 484 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 8: I mean, what were the odds that you were going 485 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 8: to hold him to fourteen in the end. I mean, 486 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 8: you had you had a chance there, you were moving 487 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 8: the ball effectively, and instead you decided on that one 488 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 8: to go ahead and punt it. 489 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 7: And then and you got a good punt. They went 490 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 7: ninety yards. 491 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 8: And that was really the start of the downfall. So 492 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 8: I think they have to think about that more often, 493 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 8: and especially against against Indianapolis. I think you have to 494 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 8: be prepared to try to score thirty five points, and 495 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 8: you know, not hope that that's enough, but try to enforce, 496 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 8: like I said, those couple of big stops that you 497 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 8: might get maybe after they play Renegade in the fourth 498 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 8: quarter or something like that. 499 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: Well, I think you have to be prepared to score 500 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: thirty five points in every game with the way that 501 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: defense is playing. But here's my idea to tweak that 502 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: defense a little bit, to kind of adjust priorities for 503 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: the Colts game mic concentrate on stopping Tyler Warren the 504 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: tight end. Ben suggested putting Jalen Ramsey in the slot 505 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: to cover tight ends. If Jonathan Taylor beats you, he 506 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: beats you, But take away something like the Steelers' strategy 507 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: doesn't take away anything. They just kind of show up. 508 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, And the other thing that you have to think 509 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 8: about is they have not been super aggressive over the 510 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 8: last few games. Uh and and that I think that 511 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 8: impacts your pass rush when you're always trying to get 512 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 8: home for and they're still getting and there's and you're 513 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 8: not getting home with four and they're still hitting open 514 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 8: plays behind you, So you're saving seven guys for coverage 515 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 8: and it's not mattering. 516 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 7: They're still hitting. 517 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 8: I mean, my goodness, sometimes they're hitting guys where there's 518 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 8: literally no one within ten yards. 519 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 7: Of the play of the of the pass receiver. So 520 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 7: I would like to see them be more aggressive. 521 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 8: That's the one thing that I fully criticized the scheme on, 522 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 8: especially against Flacko, but to a lesser extent against Love 523 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 8: the other night. When they did pressure, they had a 524 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 8: decent rate. 525 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 7: Of getting home. 526 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 8: Although they didn't put him on his back, they at 527 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 8: least finally made contact when they were rushing for they 528 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 8: weren't getting anywhere near him. And they're now not gonna 529 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 8: beat Indianapolis if they don't put some pressure on Daniel Jones. 530 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: Finally, one one offensive note, Mike because we spent the 531 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: whole segment talking about the d and rightly so, because 532 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: that's the biggest problem. But I got zero problem with 533 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I wish he'd go deep more, but that's 534 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: maybe not totally up to him. 535 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: And he's so smart. 536 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: His pre snap is amazing, and I think if it 537 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: wasn't for him, the Steelers would be in deeper trouble 538 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: than they even now appear to be. 539 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 7: Oh. 540 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 8: I wrote last week Mark about how not only on 541 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 8: the field, but off the field as well, and I 542 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 8: used the example of him showing up at the Penguins 543 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 8: game looking sharp in his Sydney Crosby jersey with a 544 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 8: bunch of teammates. 545 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 7: Me's done everything you could have asked him to do 546 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 7: on or off the field to be a Steeler I could. 547 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 6: You know. 548 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 7: I was very critical at the. 549 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 8: Time of the of the signing that that I didn't 550 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 8: think he fit the Steelers culture or priorities or any 551 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 8: of that because of all the things that were happening 552 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 8: off the field. 553 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 7: From a really in the last four or five years. 554 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 8: But he set all of that aside to try to 555 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 8: make this football team great and I give him full 556 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 8: credit for that. 557 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: Mike, great stuff. Enjoy the Liverpool game, which kicks off 558 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: in just a few minutes. Come on you rads and 559 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk again next week. 560 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 7: Sounds great, Mark, thank you. 561 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: That's Mike de course, brought to us by South Hills Kia. 562 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: South Hills Kia has the ride and the price you'll like. 563 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: At top of the r we got Ben Kendall, the 564 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: Penguin's great rookie. Gonna be a pleasure to talk to him.