1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: This is the Joe Show. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Ashley believes that kids are soft. She believes parents are soft. 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: She doesn't know who's more soft. I think that I 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: think that the world is soft now eight hundred four 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: ninety three. I suppose maybe she here Ashley talk about 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: why she says is before we get into it, because 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: seeing what you wrote, I agree with you. When I 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: saw this news story, I'm like, that's ridiculous. But what happened? 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: So there was a football player that made it. He's 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: not it fumbled. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 4: Would he fumbled the ball? They could have got a 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 4: point and I could have won. I'm assuming. 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: Okay, let me you explained the football talk and I'll 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: explain why I'm upset. 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: All right, So there is a player who had a touchdown. 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: He was about to score a touchdown, and this has 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: happened a couple times this year already, but essentially right before, 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: right before he scored that touchdown, right before he crossed 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: the line, he celebrated too early, and he dropped the ball. 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: He like threw the ball, and people are so he 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 2: dropped it, But that doesn't explain it if you don't 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: see it. 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: He intentionally dropped the ball. He knew what he was doing. 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 4: He was excited. 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: He dropped it early, though, and that drop caused his 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: team to lose the game. It's it, one thousand percent 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: was his fault that they lost the game. Anyone and 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: everyone has said that he was the only thing that 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: sports shows were talking about the next day. It was 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: a massive mistake on his end. 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: So then you go to the sideline and his coach 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: obviously is upset about the miss the mishappy hat on 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: the field, So the coach goes up to him. He 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: roughs him up a little bit, just like any other 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: All he did was push him in the chest. 36 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: That's all he did. 37 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: Mind the guy has on pad, so you probably didn't 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: even feel it. And the guy, the coach is fine 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars for I mean, what did they 40 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: say it was? I just thow he was fine one 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars to put in his hands on the player. 42 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: He didn't physically harm this player. Back past, yes, I 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: remember playing basketball. I would leave practice sometimes crying are 44 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: the games, crying because of how my coach was talking 45 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: to me. But it was tough love. I didn't feel 46 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: like she was trying to harm me. I didn't think 47 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: she was trying to belittle me. She was trying to 48 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: make me a better player and a better person. I 49 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: just think now parents they see their kids get in 50 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: tough love, or the kids get in tough love, they 51 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: go back to their parents, they complain and it is 52 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: an issue. Which is why we have so many softies 53 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: out here now. 54 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: Way too many soft yes, ultra, because. 55 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: How are you finding this coach one hundred thousand dollars 56 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: for just doing his job. 57 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: I had a football coach, you remember, coach zin Yeah, 58 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: we both have zin Zim. 59 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,559 Speaker 1: Let me get one. 60 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: He would grab our remember he would grab your face 61 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: mask and he'd be like and he'd yell at you, 62 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: and then he'd go he would be fine, and you 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: would listen up. 64 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: He'd probably be fired. 65 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: Now yeah he would kid or my parents would go 66 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: up to him and this. 67 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they would have an issue. 68 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you should hit anyone in it's 69 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: up a little bit, you get ruffed up a little bit. 70 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: My parents would spank me. 71 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: I learned I will never forget get in into it 72 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: on the court at a basketball game. 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 4: And my parents didn't do nothing. They just send the 74 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: crowd and let it happen. They're like, yo, this is 75 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: her lesson. 76 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Maybe like did you talk back? Did you show boat? 77 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: Did you do anything that you were told to do. 78 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: I just feel like a lot of kids are coddled 79 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: now and parents are just allowing it. 80 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: Not all, but a lot of them. 81 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: Now, you heard what Ashley has to say, obviously followed 82 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: by me. Jed didn't give his opinion just yet. We'll 83 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: ask him eight hundred and four on the ninety three 84 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: ninety three. I want to make this very very very 85 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: clear too. By the way, they don't beat kids up. Well, 86 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm just kidding it, but what makes this clear? At 87 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: no point do I ever want this show to turn 88 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: into everyone agrees with each other. If you just heard 89 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: this and you are offended by what we just said, 90 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: you've got the oportunities to call in and share it. 91 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: We're not going to be like. 92 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: You're an idiot or any you want to hear your opinion. 93 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: But you can call us an idiot. That's okay. We've 94 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: got thick. 95 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: Skin, like going back and forth for listeners. 96 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: Kate, I love that you're going to break this down too, 97 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: by the way, because it is a complete double standard, 98 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: and I immediately thought of this person when it happened. 99 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: What did Travis Kelsey a couple of years ago? 100 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. As soon as I didn't see this. And 101 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 5: I'm not the most sports centric person either, Ashley, Yeah, Like, 102 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 5: as soon as I heard you talking about it, I'm like, 103 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 5: but what about Travis Kelsey a couple of years What 104 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 5: do you do? 105 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: He pushed his coach in the chest, he pushed. 106 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: It was not believe it because I. 107 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 6: Travis Kelsey, sorry to interrupt, Travis Kelsey was fine. He 108 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 6: was fined fifteen thousand dollars. 109 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: How much? Fifteen thousand? Why was that coach finding one 110 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: hundred thousand? 111 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 6: I think that well that I think. I'm not saying 112 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 6: the fine is the amount is fine. I'm just saying that, 113 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 6: you know, Travis Kelsey was fine. I don't think a 114 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars. 115 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 5: Is I don't think the organization why instead of in 116 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 5: my opinion, being seated the next game. I couldn't believe 117 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 5: he put his hands. 118 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: I was disgusting. 119 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie that one. I was reading, you 120 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: don't put you the players. I've never touched my coach, 121 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: never touched. 122 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: Like that. 123 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 6: Like, it's not like he has the physical ability to keep. 124 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: Up with any of these people either. 125 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: Anna, you're a boxer. 126 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, so if I don't, if I don't do something right, 127 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 7: my coach punches me on my head. Oh, I get 128 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 7: punched often. So I'm definitely on Ashley's side. If you 129 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 7: have pads on, bro, you'll be all right. You'll be 130 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 7: all right. 131 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: If I'm that player, I'm coming out him saying, Hey, 132 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: don't find my coach like he's just doing his job. 133 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean in my case, in my casey, I'm 134 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 7: going to hit my coach back if I get the 135 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 7: cab because we'll fight. Yeah, I know he's gonna beat 136 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 7: me up. So you know it's. 137 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: Abuse is never okay, But ruling with a little bit 138 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: of fear sometimes it's not that. But also at the 139 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: same time, and Tommy's not this type of boss, but 140 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: I do respond. 141 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 7: Uh. 142 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: I'll never forget when I did something on the air 143 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: and I it's like, I'm gonna keep doing it, and Tommy, 144 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: uh swore at me, And I never did that thing 145 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: again because I realized Dad. 146 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: Didn't like it. 147 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna make Dad man on purpose. Sometimes you 148 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: kind of gotta make it a little fear in them. Yeah, 149 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: you wrong with a little fear in your heart? 150 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: Marcia, are you a parent? 151 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 7: I am a parent, and my kid plays multi sports, right, 152 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 7: and she's been in sports prior to being five. She's 153 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 7: just turned ten. Now she cries a lot when the 154 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 7: coach is yell at her and whatever. But I'm like, 155 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 7: you're in sports, expect coaches. The coaches have expectations and 156 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 7: if you don't deliver the towards their expectations, they're gonna 157 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 7: be upset with you. If you plant the same sport, 158 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 7: You've got to grow some skin. These parents sit down 159 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 7: and through a feet when the coaches talk to their parents, 160 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 7: and they believe their kids are better than the coaches. 161 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 7: Concerns are the coaches coaching, Like, if you think you 162 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 7: can coach your kid, gotta take your kid off the 163 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 7: team and go coaching right, is the best on the team. 164 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: It's like you didn't bring your kid to practice. 165 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 7: Bro right, Right. So I coach my kid and people 166 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 7: ask me to coach their kids. I'm like, no, I said, 167 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 7: your kids can't manage my style of coaching, and I'm 168 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 7: not going to be arguing with your kid yourself. No, 169 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 7: I stick to coaching my kid. 170 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: That great mom, I love you, Marcia, Heather. Go ahead. 171 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: You got three kids who are football players. 172 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, they're all in flag and their coach says on 173 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 8: the field, I'm your daddy. I pop them on the 174 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 8: butt or whatever, like pay attention. 175 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: And you're okay with that? 176 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, because my boys definitely they need the discipline. 177 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: See there, we got great parents and Tampa baby baby, 178 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: y'all are just like rough these kids up. 179 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: Love your Heather, Love your Heather. And we're not talking 180 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: about don't hit. 181 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: Anything like that. 182 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: It's just like, hey, like you messed up. There are 183 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: punishments for being a little ale. 184 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: But all right. 185 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 2: I was very curious as to how that would go. 186 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: Uh and I went pretty damn well. 187 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: So cool. I thought we were running into fire. We're 188 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: going to run into a fiery building. 189 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: Allowed to touch my kid. It's like, come on,