1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I tell you Boston's 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: News Radio. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Good evening everyone, and welcoming. And it is a Tuesday 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: night weather a little warmer today, but still not what 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: you would call tropical, that is for sure. And I 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: guess it's gonna get cold again next weekend. We will 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: talk tonight at ten o'clock about Boston's inept effort to 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: clean the city streets. We're gonna be talking with Boston 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: City council Ed Flynn. Next, we'll be talking with Ernie Bach, 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: the president of Music Drives us Say children's nonprofit, which 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: has done a lot of good at celebrating its twentieth year. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: Its anniversary twentieth year, we'll celebrate it tonight with Ernie 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Bark Junior. However, during the first hour, we have four 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: very interesting guests. I will remind you I am Dan Ray, 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: the host of Nights I'd heard every Monday through Friday 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: night from eight to midnight right here on WVZ, Boston's 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: news Radio. Rob Brooks is I broadcast remotely. Rob is 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: back in the control and he is all set to 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: take your calls, but not until the nine o'clock era 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: because we have four great topics to talk about. Would 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: you like a front row seat to Boston sports. Well, 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: there's a new podcast with four of Boston's best connected 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: sports journalists. They share their extraordinary stories over the last 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: five decades. I worked with all of them in some 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: form of fashion. Bob Ryan and Dan Shaughnessy from The 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: Globe have been on this program on many occasions. Mike 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: Lynch from Channel five, former placekicker at Harvard and Swampskin 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: High School, and my great colleague, former colleague, Bob Lobell. 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: And they are telling their stories to two colleagues w 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: b Z colleagues, former news director Peter Brown, who is 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: with us. Welcome to Night Side, Peter. I think this 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: is your first appearance on my radio. 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: Show, you know, Danny, It's an honor, and thank you 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: so much for giving us a few minutes to talk 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: about this. 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: My pleasure in alongside physically, but alongside telephonically. His old 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: friend Alan Miller, who really was Bob's producer for as 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: well as Bob Neumeyer's producer and Alice Cook's producer for 39 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: so many years. A great guy, one of the great 40 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: party animals of the nineteen eighties. My good friend Alan Miller. 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: How are you come? 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: Well? 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: Dan, thank you so much. 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: So, okay, how did this idea occur? And I want 45 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: you guys to tell the story. I understand that, but 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: I want to hear it from you. Guys. Go ahead 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: with whoever wants to lead off? 48 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: Alan, you want me to kick it off? 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 5: Kick it off, Pete? 50 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: All right? 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: So, so Alan and I both come from new sports backgrounds, right, 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: and so you're always thinking about what's the best way 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: to tell a story? And what better story is there 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: to tell than Boston sports. Everybody's got an opinion, right, 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: So I had this idea about how do we capture 56 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: the history of Boston sports, and what better way to 57 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: do it than to go to the real storytellers. So 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: I call up Alan first and I said, so I 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: got this idea, what do you think? And Alan's like, 60 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: I love this idea. So Alan and I talked about 61 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: who are the folks we'd love to start with. So 62 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: we thought the really really good storytellers. Now that there 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: aren't others out there, there are many, but we decided 64 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: to start with Lobi and Lynchy and Dan Shaughnessy and 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: Bob Ryan just because of the depth and breadth of 66 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: the stories they covered, and as the title says, that 67 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: I came up with one one day obviously didn't take 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: a lot. Was the idea of these guys sat in 69 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: the front row to the major sports stories over the 70 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: last five decades. 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: No question. I wonder if we were to add up 72 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: the number of years between the of them and throw 73 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: Allen's year covering sports as well and yours Peter, we're 74 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: talking about probably sixty seventy years in TOTO. 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: I believe more it's gonna be. I think it could 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: be closer to one hundred with all of the years, 77 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: particularly those four storytellers. 78 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well make sure. Yeah, Bryan's been there, shot us, 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: he's been there thirty years or more. God, yeah, it's 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: got to be close to one hundred. I think you're right, Alan, Alan, 81 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: this was a big ass from Peter. You guys are 82 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: not making, by the way, any money of this. This 83 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: is free. This is available on YouTube and you've already 84 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: posted how many these are? Eight or ten minute day? Next? Correct? 85 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: Is that the figuration? 86 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 6: That is it? 87 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? Anywhere from five to eight or nine minutes. Dan, 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 5: We've posted about thirty of them so far, and the 89 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 5: response has been terrific. People have really liked them. We've 90 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 5: had over I mean with pretty much no advertise or 91 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 5: any publicity, We've have over almost a thousand subscribers to 92 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 5: our new YouTube channel and almost fifty thousand plays as 93 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 5: of today. So people are enjoying it. And it was 94 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: just really fun to sit down with these guys and 95 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: we didn't really talk about the games themselves. Everybody knows 96 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 5: the ball went through Buckner's legs and Halichak stole the 97 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 5: ball and the Patriots come back against Atlanta and the 98 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 5: Super Bowl was What was great about these guys is 99 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 5: that they told stories about the people involved in the 100 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 5: sports and their relationships with them over the course of 101 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 5: the last fifty years, and it came to be some 102 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 5: just just really great, interesting stories. 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: And Danny, Danny, I was just going to say, this 104 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 3: is Peter that you know. We took about a year 105 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: to do this, so it was just you know, Alan 106 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: and me. I've got a video camera and Alan the 107 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: has got the brains and knows the right questions to 108 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: ask and I got a chance to throw in a couple. 109 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: But it's been a project, frankly love for the for 110 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: the last year. So we launched it just probably about 111 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: I don't know, Alan, maybe a little over a month ago, Yeah, 112 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: like mid December. 113 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's no subscription. See people can sign up. 114 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: How do they? How do they sign up? What is it? 115 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: Let me guess? Is it front Road to Boston Sports 116 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: dot com? 117 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 5: It's if you go to YouTube and it's and if 118 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 5: you type in the search bar front Road to Boston Sports, 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: you'll you'll land on our page and you'll see pictures 120 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 5: of Lynchy Lobel, Ryan Shaughnessy and all the videos that 121 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 5: are attached to it. And there's, like I said, about 122 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 5: thirty videos that we've already released. 123 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: Uh. Alan, I'll ask you this question because I want 124 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: to get you involved in this as well. Was there 125 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: one story, and you know all the stories, was there 126 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: one story that you had never heard? 127 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, there was actually a few. One that really struck 128 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 5: me with We've sat down with my Glinch and as 129 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 5: you know, when she's from Swampscott and his father was 130 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 5: a legendary baseball, football, and basketball coach coach at Swampscott 131 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: High School. So during he's had some great players go 132 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 5: through there. And two of those players were Tony Kindeglierro 133 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 5: and Billy Kindegliero and so WinCE was probably about eight 134 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 5: or nine at the time, and his father was sick, 135 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: and unbeknown it's to Lynchy, he was seriously sick. And 136 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 5: it was right around December, on Christmas time, and his 137 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 5: mom said, hey, guys, you know dad's not feeling well. 138 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 5: I'm not sure what Santa will be able to do 139 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 5: for us this year. So one day, Mike's father's at 140 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 5: home resting. Is a knock on the door and it's 141 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 5: Billy and Tony Kindgliaro, and they wanted to go see 142 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 5: their old coach and they spent some time with Mike's 143 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 5: dad and they came down to to leave that day 144 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 5: and they're going out the front door and they handed 145 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 5: Mike's mom a wat of cash and said, you know what, 146 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 5: I want you to take care of these kids for 147 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 5: Christmas and whatever you need, just come and ask me. 148 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 5: That was Tony C. And it's just like stories like 149 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 5: that just just personalize these guys and just shows the 150 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: humanity of some of these guys. You know, we all 151 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 5: see him in their uniforms and they do superhuman things, 152 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 5: but they're just people, and they're people with hearts. And 153 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 5: it was just a that story just really stuck with me. 154 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, of course, the sad thing about Tony 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: is he had that heart attack in the sun the tunnel, and. 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 5: You know, and being just you know, you're, you're you 157 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 5: tread talks and he was he went. He hit one 158 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 5: hundred home runs faster than any player in Major League history, 159 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 5: including Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, whoever he went to. He 160 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: got the one hundred home runs faster than everybody hit. 161 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: His first home run off for a picture for the 162 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: White Sox named Joel hole In. 163 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, you are a big ball Fanda. 164 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: I went with Billy Bates, who was an old friend 165 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: of mine, had been a trainer and a buddy of 166 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: Tony C. And we visited Tony C when he was 167 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: on his last legs and it was tough to see. 168 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: We sat with him one day and just talked a 169 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: little baseball and he did not participate much, but you 170 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: could see that he was nodding and all of that, 171 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: and it was it was tough. Alan, I asked you 172 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: to jump in here, tell us one of the stories 173 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: that maybe you were unfamiliar with. 174 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: So is this her Peter, Well, who was it? 175 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: Alan? Did who did that story? Was that Alan's? 176 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: That was Alane? 177 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: You got your voices are very similar, by the way, 178 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: and I'm serious. 179 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, we've worked together for so long, I think 180 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: we've become we become one voice. What about you, Peter, Yeah, 181 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: here's the fun story that I found, and this is 182 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: Lobell talking in. Dwight Evans. We played right field for 183 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: the Red Sox during that infamous nineteen eighty six game, 184 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: the game where the ball went through Buckner's legs. So 185 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: it turns out Dwight Evans has the perfect view from 186 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: right field. There was a pickoff play underway, and Marty 187 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 3: Barrett went to sect to cover second base, and they 188 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: pulled Buckner off the first base bag to cover the 189 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: hole that would exist with Marty Barrett. It was a 190 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: pickoff play. The pitcher never got the signal and threw 191 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: an inside pitch to Alan Mookie Wilson. 192 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 5: Yep, Mookie Wilson right. 193 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: It went right down the first base line. Buckner, who 194 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: was hobbled at the time, could not get over in 195 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: time and the ball went through his legs. And there's 196 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: one other kicker to this, Don Shane, the late great 197 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: Don Shane, was a channel four reporter. I want to 198 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: say a few weeks before the World Series, Don Shane 199 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: kid you not went to Bill Buckner and said, what 200 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 3: is your greatest fear? And how present is this? 201 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: Dan? 202 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: He said on video and we have the video. My 203 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: greatest fear is a ball going between my legs and 204 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: us losing a game. 205 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Stanley was the pitcher. Who Who's who threw the ball? 206 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: And uh, the real question that probably no one will 207 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: live and know. I think McNamara never was asked, well, 208 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: I wasn't stapled and put it in as a defensive 209 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: replacement right exactly the game. Well, I'll be looking at 210 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: all of these again, it's just on YouTube. Front Road 211 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: to Boston Sports, Alan Miller, great job, as I said, 212 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: one of the great guys of that newsroom. Always kept 213 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: us laughing, a great sense of humor and a really 214 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: great guy. And Peter Brown, he kept us in line. 215 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: So there was kind of the ying and the yang there, 216 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: and I think you know what I'm talking about. So 217 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: we'll let it go with that. Okay, there'll be no 218 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: front row. We will never have front row to the 219 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: BZ newsroom in the nineteen eighties. 220 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: No, thank god, that wouldn't be good on TV. 221 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: No, gentlemen, thank you very much for your time, and 222 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: thank you very much for this labor of love. It's 223 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: a great gift to Boston sports fans throughout New England. 224 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Talk soon, all right, when we get back, 225 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: we are going to change topics and talk about a 226 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: new book, a true story about It's called The Navigators Letter, 227 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: and this is one that I think many of you, 228 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: particularly some of those who are well, have thought you've 229 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: heard every World War two story. Buckle up, you haven't 230 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: heard this one. Coming back on. 231 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: Nightside night Side with Dan Ray, I'm Boston's news radio. 232 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: All right, I am delighted to welcome Jan cres Dondie. 233 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: She's an author and she has written The Navigators Let, 234 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: the true story of two w World War two airman, 235 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: a doomed mission, and the woman who bound them together. 236 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: I have not read your book, Jen, but I have 237 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: read enough about your book to know it is an 238 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 2: amazing story. Why don't you give us a little bit 239 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: of a head of the headlines here. This is about 240 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: two men, one of whom I guess was your dad 241 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: or was your. 242 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 5: Dad right from the second. 243 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: Small town in Illinois, who went through the war together, 244 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: including both having been airman, both having been shot down, 245 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: and both having been POW's in German prison camps. 246 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 6: Well, that's close, it's very close. Thanks for having me 247 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 6: on the show. You know this at this time day 248 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 6: and I will tell you at the surface, it's about 249 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 6: stopping Hitler's war machine, and it was through two guys. 250 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 6: One was my uncle, one was my father. The book 251 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 6: takes you from Operation Tidle Wave, which was the first 252 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 6: ever low level bombing raid, and this meant you were 253 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 6: zero altitude, meant you were fifty to one hundred and 254 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 6: fifty feet above the ground, so it was seriously one 255 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty bombers. Can you imagine over the roof 256 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 6: of your house. The sound must have been amazing. But 257 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 6: it takes you through the original raid, the Operation tidal Wave, 258 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 6: which my uncle was shot down in, and then through 259 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 6: later high altitude missions when the Air Force gained ground 260 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 6: on Italy, the fifteenth Air Force, and the story sort 261 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 6: of culminates in Operation Reunion, which is the largest evacuation 262 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 6: by air in history, where the Tuskegee airmen flew escort 263 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 6: over and around the clock operation getting twelve hundred men 264 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 6: from Romania back to Italy. That's sort of the book 265 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 6: in a nutshell. 266 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I misunderstood. I thought that the Well, they were 267 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: both from the same town. Obviously they were brothers. 268 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 6: Right, No, they weren't brought they were friends from the 269 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 6: same town. And it's okay, so you're okay, So I'm okay. 270 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: I missed. So your uncle, not your dad, your uncle 271 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: and a friend of his. 272 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 6: Were Well, no, my uncle and my father are the 273 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 6: two men. 274 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: Okay, why don't you tell the story? Tell the story 275 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: because I think I've totally messed it up. I read 276 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: it as I read the reviews. So so it was. 277 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 6: Your well, you know what's interesting on the Amazon the 278 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 6: Amazon quick review. They do it on Ai and it's wrong, 279 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 6: and I don't know how you change it. 280 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what I read. 281 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 6: I'm sure that's where you read it, and I've tried 282 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 6: to get them to change it. But Ai, I think 283 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 6: has Ai is the confused one here. What it is 284 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 6: is no, yeah, well it confused me when I saw 285 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 6: it too, because I thought, now everybody's going to have 286 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 6: this story wrong. But no, it's I've two B twenty 287 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 6: four navigators. They're not brothers, but they're friends from the 288 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 6: same hometown in Illinois. One was one became an eighth 289 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 6: Air Force out of England B twenty four navigator, the 290 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 6: other became a fifteenth Air Force B twenty four Navigator. 291 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 5: Out of Italy. 292 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 6: And the original raid over Plost, which was Hitler's fuel supply. 293 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 6: The Allies felt like if they stopped, if they destroyed 294 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 6: Hitler's fuel, his war machine, meaning if you don't have oil, 295 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 6: your tanks don't roll, your ships don't sail, and your 296 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 6: planes don't fly. The idea was take out his oil 297 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 6: and then metals short. 298 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: In the war. 299 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 6: So Operation Operation Tileway was the very first low level 300 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 6: raid that they flew on and my uncle was shot 301 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 6: down on that went missing in action. Then then they 302 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 6: did some high altitude missions and my father was on 303 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 6: those Overplost, the same target actually the same oil refinery. 304 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 6: They had about eight oil refineries in Ploest and they 305 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 6: were trying to take out all of them, and they 306 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 6: were both. 307 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 5: My father was. 308 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 6: Shot down on the high altitude air raid. So no, well, 309 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 6: I think you'll have to read the story to find 310 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 6: that out for sure. At least one of them was 311 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 6: a POW and the one was involved in Operation reunion, 312 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 6: which was the largest era evacuation in history of twelve 313 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 6: hundred repatriating twelve hundred POWs back to Italy. 314 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: Okay. So the title let's let's let's really confuse people 315 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: the true story of two World War takeing sairman, a 316 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: doomed mission and the woman who bound them together. Who's 317 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: the woman who bound them together? 318 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 6: So the woman that bound them together as another woman 319 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 6: from the same little town that wrote letters. They wrote letters. 320 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 6: This all my journey started from discovering a box of 321 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 6: a foot locker of letters written by these two men, 322 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 6: probably five or six hundred letters, plus telegrams and newspaper 323 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 6: clippings and things like that. And the woman actually is 324 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 6: my mother. So she had all these documents and I've 325 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 6: pulled them away and took a look at him and 326 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 6: started reading them and realized this is a lot of 327 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 6: history here, and I felt like it needed to be 328 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 6: preserved in some way. 329 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: When does the book come. 330 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 6: It comes out actually a week from today. You can 331 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 6: order it now online and pre orders really helped me 332 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 6: because it helps the publisher gauge how many books to print. 333 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 6: But there's so much more to this story. I know 334 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 6: you're probably running out of time line. 335 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: I know we actually have run out of time. So 336 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: the title confused me a little bit because the title 337 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: was the navigator or singular letter letter right. 338 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 6: That's okay, So I can give you a little idea 339 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 6: about that. 340 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: Well, that's okay. To be honest with you, I think 341 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: we've reached the end of the time here. I'm sorry 342 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: about the confusion. I'm sorry that what was sent to 343 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: me was incorrect. Uh. And I do hope people take 344 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: the opportunity to pre order the book ahead of time. 345 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: It is the now. 346 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 6: I love to talk to you again and help help 347 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 6: you straighten it out. 348 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: I'll read the book. 349 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Jane. 350 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: Chris Johnnie, thank you very much for your time. Here 351 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 2: comes the News at eight thirty and we are going 352 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: to talk about some great, great New England Patriots merch 353 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: that you can get if you grab a piece of 354 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: paper and a pencil or a pen and you can 355 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: write some things down. We're going to be talking with 356 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: a good friend of mine who has some fabulous ideas 357 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: as we head towards the big game this Sunday. Be 358 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: right back after the noons here at the bottom of 359 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: the hour. 360 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: It's night side on Boston's news radio. 361 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back everybody. I'm delighted to introduce Jack Dougherty. 362 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: He is the owner the founder of a great company 363 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 2: out of Dorchester and now Weymouth called College Hype. You 364 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: know College Hype because College Hype has been very kind 365 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: over the years to my listeners. They provide us with 366 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: nightside gear knightsidgear dot com. You have another site now 367 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: that is it's called my citygear dot com. 368 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, Dan and Dan thanks so much for having 369 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 4: us on. It's mycitygear dot com. And we have a 370 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 4: bunch of spirit wear on there for the Big Game 371 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 4: or Sunday. 372 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: Now I'm trying to located here, but I know that 373 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: there is a variety of t shirts which are quite creative. 374 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I'm looking at one right 375 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: now which is entitled vested in Vrabel. Beautiful looking shirt page, 376 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: colors and all of that. What's the plan here, Who's 377 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: going to benefit from all of this? You have? First 378 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: of all, I guess what we should do is is 379 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: real quickly give some of the different varieties that are available. 380 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: So the vested in Vrabel vested with you know Coach Rabel, 381 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: who everybody loves is invested in them. And I think 382 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 4: that's your favorite shirt too, right, I believe you grabbed 383 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: one of those and what were on today? 384 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 2: You have to do it on night Side pregame. It's 385 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: a good looking shirt, a T shirt. 386 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was inspired by our friend Jody and 387 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 4: Sean Bowman. So that's that's been pretty popular. All the 388 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: sales from that shirt will go to benefit our good 389 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 4: friend Matt Brown from the Matt Brown Foundation, and that 390 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: again you can get my citygear dot com and that 391 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: shirt we had. 392 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: I just I want to mention you know Matt Brown 393 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: has been on the show. You've introduced me to Matt, 394 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: a young hockey player of the age of fifteen out 395 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: of Norwood, Massachusetts's written a book called Line Change. We've 396 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: had Matt on. He's an incredible guy and you've been 397 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: so supportive of him. Also, the proceeds from the sale 398 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: of these shirts, you're doing it as as really an 399 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: active love. You're benefiting a couple of hospitals as well. 400 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, just real quick on Matt Brown. When I said 401 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: to Matt we were going to do it, he said, no, 402 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: don't do it. Do it for something else. Do it 403 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 4: for somebody else, And of course, you just you go 404 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 4: right back to Matt always, So first and foremost we 405 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 4: want to always promote the Matt Brown Foundation because they 406 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 4: do amazing things for the community in Norwood and the 407 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: surrounding communities as well, helping out many families that have 408 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: been faced with paralysis. So that does an unbelievable job 409 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: advising and also financially helping them. So that's that's where 410 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: the vested in Brable will the proceeds from now will 411 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: go to the Matt Brown Foundation so we can go 412 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 4: on and help others. But some of the other the 413 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 4: other benefactors were we came up with this shirt. Kathleen Hickey, 414 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 4: who has been with us, Oh god, it feels like 415 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: thirty forty years, but I think it's about twenty twenty 416 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 4: one years. She came up with with the cultual Health system, 417 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: May the Force Be with You, and they grabbed a 418 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 4: couple hundred and sold them out right away. And what's 419 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 4: great about the shirt then is the nurses were able 420 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 4: to buy them, the doctors they were able to buy 421 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 4: them for patients, so I'm thinking they almost sold out 422 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: of that, but it's May the Force Be with You. 423 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 4: So that was for self, your Health and then the 424 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 4: other hospital, the other hospital that benefited and came up 425 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: with another idea. It was one of Kathleen's clients, Beath Israel, 426 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 4: and they came up with the shirt that just said 427 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 4: may Day and we got a ton in a couple 428 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: of days. And I think they were almost sold out 429 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: as well. 430 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: So it's that real nice when that has a charity 431 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 3: may Day. 432 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: May day has an interesting spelling. 433 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: It does, yes, yeah, spelled with an e at the end, 434 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: m A y E. And for those that don't know, 435 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 4: that would be the quarterback for the Patriots this Sunday 436 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: will be hopefully playing as long as he's not injured. 437 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm sure, I'm sure he will be playing. 438 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: They I think he'll be good. 439 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he should be good. 440 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely. So again you do this, I know that you 441 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: really invested emotionally, uh with Matt Brown. You've introduced me 442 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: to Matt, a great young guy who now you know, 443 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: consigned to live in a wheelchair, but he in his foundation, 444 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: with a large part your help, has been able to 445 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: help other people acquire not only wheelchairs, but portable you know, 446 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: vans that can transport people in wheelchairs. What he's done 447 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: has been amazing and what you've done to help him, 448 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 2: Jack has been amazing to me. 449 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: Well, it's not me, Dan, I would say my company. 450 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 4: I'm one of forty. But what's amazing about matter is 451 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: I think it's almost four hundred thousand dollars plus that 452 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 4: he's given away or basically invested back in helping people 453 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 4: so that they can, you know, get through their daily 454 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 4: challenges living with paralysis. So it's been a really interesting 455 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: ride to watch what he has done for others and 456 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 4: what he continues to do, and then when he speaks, 457 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 4: that's a whole other thing, you know, that's a whole 458 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 4: other chapter. That's it's very impressive. As you mentioned his book, 459 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 4: Line Change. 460 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: I've read it. 461 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: Twice, listened to it, and I know a number of 462 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: my family members have and friends and we actually sell 463 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 4: that book and you're alviously one or two, three, four buying. 464 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 5: At a time. 465 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: People will buy that at a time to give out 466 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 4: to a group. And people are really inspired by what 467 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 4: Matt has done and what he's doing, and then what 468 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 4: he's doing now with the marathon that I know you'll 469 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 4: have them on a few times to talk about that 470 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: down the road. 471 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, no, he he competes in the marathon. He's 472 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: competed now two or three times. They raise money for 473 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: with other members of his team. He's a remarkable young guy. 474 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: I want to come back to the Patriots gear. This 475 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 2: is the sort of gear that if people want to 476 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 2: go to a party and just really impress their friends 477 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: with these T shirts, Well, how can they get them? 478 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: They could stop by the store in Dorchester, right, give. 479 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 4: That five forty Gaalvin Boulevard. Sure, they can stop by 480 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 4: five forty Gallvin Boulevard from ten to for the next 481 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 4: right up until game game day, wait up ntil to day. 482 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: I do want to say, though, real quick, Matt does 483 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 4: have a favorite shirt and it's I Hot in Michael 484 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: May's husband. I don't know if he's wearing it tonight 485 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: or not, but I was old with him the other 486 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: night and I showed him all the shirts and he 487 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 4: said I have to have that one. I said, you're serious. 488 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 4: So it's I Hot and Michael May's husband. And for 489 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: those that don't know who and Michael May is, that's 490 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: Drake May's wife. 491 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well okay, So how if people can't cannot 492 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: get to the to the store in Dorchester tomorrow what's 493 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: the easiest way for them to prove to browse the 494 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: T shirts that are available, and the one that I 495 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: also particularly like is the one that it simply says 496 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: six seven. That's the code that kids have been using lately. 497 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: And when I say kids, I mean middle school kids 498 00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: and kids and their teens driving adult nuts because they 499 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: say six to seven. They all laugh and everybody thinks 500 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: there's a joke here, but you guys. 501 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: Have Yeah, no one knows the joke. That's what's funny 502 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: about it. Yeah, yeah, So what it is? So that 503 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 4: shirt it says six seven with the little football in 504 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: the middle, and it's uh, it has it says six 505 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: was History, seven is next. So that was our play. 506 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 4: Our team's very creative, you know, you know, and they 507 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 4: get together and they came up with this with the 508 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 4: direction of Sean and Sam and a few others and 509 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 4: Nolan in six seven six was History, seven is Next. 510 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: We actually sold out of those and we're printing now, 511 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: printing tomorrow. UT's so we'll have them in the store 512 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 4: by twelve o'clock tomorrow. 513 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So if they can't get to the store and 514 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: they want to order, what what can they do? 515 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 4: My citygear dot com. Yeah, my citygear dot com, My 516 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: citygear dot com. And if they order by tomorrow night 517 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: at five, those go out and they should have them 518 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 4: by by Friday afternoon with meal next day. 519 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: Okay, and give give the address one more time. 520 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: So that ere five Fordy Galvin Boulevard, Dorchester, mass right 521 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: near the Eerie Pub in Dorchester and Adams Corner historical location. 522 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, but there we've been there almost thirty years. 523 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: Maybe we'll have to do a little radio shows live 524 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: from there after thirty years. And then the the what 525 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: to the website's my citygear dot com. It's division of 526 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 4: College Hype. 527 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: All right, well, congratulations you you guys are great with charities. 528 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: You've been very helpful with our shadow fund over the years. 529 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: You you've made knightside Gear available to my listeners and 530 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: they can also check out Nightside Gear. But I think 531 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: in the next couple of days go to my citygear 532 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: dot com in the next couple of days and just 533 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: look at some of this Patriot swag. You you've knocked 534 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: that out of the park with this one. Jack Dreaty, 535 00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining. 536 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Stan, and thanks to model in the 537 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: vested and Brable show. We got a few orders because 538 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 4: of your modeling. Ear Well, yeah, couple a couple. 539 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: That's good. All right, thanks thanks Jack, talk soon. All right, 540 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: So we I think it's real interesting. Uh, but from 541 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: a serious point of view, our next guest is incredibly interesting. 542 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 5: You know. 543 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: February is heart month, and we're going to talk with 544 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: a gentleman who had a heart transplant twenty five years ago, 545 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about what that experience has 546 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: been like for him. It's an amazing story. We will 547 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: talk with this guest, so you don't want to turn 548 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: that dial, that's for sure. Back on Nightside right after this. 549 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Ray on Boston's news radio. 550 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: All right, well, welcome back. My guest is Kenny Leferrier. Kenny, 551 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: I hope I pronounced your name correctly. 552 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: That's correct. Hi, Dan, good evening. 553 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'm always hesitant to pronounce people's 554 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: names without reconfirming the pronunciation. But I took my best shot. 555 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: My French class from high school in college worked out. Kenny, 556 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: you were a heart transparent plant recipient twenty five years ago. 557 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 5: That's correct. I needed a heart transplant and I'm proud 558 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 5: to say that I celebrated twenty five years last month. 559 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: So you had your heart transplant if I'm doing the 560 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: math correctly, in December or January? Was it January of 561 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: two thousand and one? 562 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 5: That's correct, January twenty first, two thousand and one. It 563 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 5: was actually the day the day after the presidential inauguration 564 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 5: of President Bush. 565 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: Wow, wow, boy, that seems so long go and it is. 566 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: It's twenty five years ago. Now. You live in Charlton, 567 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: and you as a little boy, when you were eight 568 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: years old, you would diagnose with liver cancer, which was 569 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: a horrific thing for you to go through. You beat 570 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: the disease, but the side effects of the treatment, which 571 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: were necessary, left you with a serious heart condition. What 572 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: was your heart just weakened because of the I assumed 573 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: that cheme on the radiation that you had to endure. 574 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's correct. The I received chemotherapy back when I 575 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 5: was eight in the nineties, and unfortunately, one of the 576 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 5: side effects of the chemotherapy does cause kyrie myopathy. It's 577 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 5: a very rare chance. But keep in mind, the chemotherapy 578 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 5: of today is far better than it was back then, 579 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 5: and they learned so much so the chances are still 580 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 5: much lower. But the point I'm making is, yes, the 581 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 5: medication did damage my heart and it required a life 582 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 5: saving heart transplant. 583 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: Now, I think all of us know that in any 584 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: organ transplants, there are some exceptions where I know, you 585 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: can take a lobe of someone's liver or whatever, and 586 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: you know there's some some By the heart transplant, it 587 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: has to be do you have any idea who the 588 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: person's heart you currently have in your in your chest cavity. 589 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 5: So, yes, that's a great question. 590 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: Dan. 591 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 5: I was fortunate to be able to write to the 592 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 5: donor family. I received a deceased donor's heart as part 593 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 5: of my transplant, and I wrote to the family and 594 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 5: I received the letter back from the husband of the donor. 595 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 5: My donor's name was Teresa, and she donated her heart, 596 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 5: and her husband, Dennis wrote to me and was really 597 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 5: really glad that to give Teresa this legacy and the 598 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 5: entire family that she was able to save my life 599 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 5: along with two others. 600 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: Wow, so she was an organ donor. Okay, so correct 601 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: when you receive the heart, Ken, how old were you? 602 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: You said you had the liver cancer in the nineties, 603 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: so you're still a young man. 604 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 5: Well, I'm forty two. If you consider that young, I 605 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 5: suppose you would. 606 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 2: I consider that very young, Okay, I can. 607 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you. 608 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: Very young. I mean theoretically you could still be a 609 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL, think Aaron Philip Rivers. I'm onlysing, 610 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: you know, okay. 611 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 5: Absolutely, I don't think I'll be signing up for that 612 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 5: anytime soon. 613 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: No, I understand that. So when you had this heart transplant, 614 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 2: what was your prognosis. Did the doctor say, hey, Ken, 615 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: you're going to be all set for the next twenty 616 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: five years, or did they say, gee, I mean you 617 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: had to be one of the early heart transplants. 618 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, somewhat early. I mean, transplant has been around for 619 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 5: a long long time, and first kidney transplant was done 620 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 5: in Boston, so I was one of the early ones. 621 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 5: I guess you could say back then. But the prognosis, 622 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 5: the prognosis was good. My life was saved and I'm 623 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 5: live because of it. And the goal of transplant is 624 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 5: to get people not only transplanted, but have them return 625 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 5: to their normal lives and to their communities. And people 626 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 5: need to understand some folks may get the perception that 627 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 5: transplants a short term fix, and that is certainly not true. 628 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 5: I'm living proof that a transplant allows patients to continue 629 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 5: a productive life. And it's been twenty five years incounting 630 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 5: for me and I look forward to another twenty five. 631 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: Now, you work at New England Donor Services. Tell me 632 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: about that organization. 633 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 5: Thank you. Yeah, it's a pleasure and an honor to 634 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 5: work for New England Donor Services. I've been with them 635 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 5: for eighteen years and it's really humbling for me personally 636 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 5: because it allows me to pay it forward every day. 637 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 5: I was a patient on the National waiting list waiting 638 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 5: for a transplant, and now I'm in working hard with 639 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 5: my colleagues, the entire team at New England Donor Services 640 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 5: to help others get the life saving transplants that they need. 641 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 5: And so New England Donor Services is the federally designated 642 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 5: organ pretarement organization that serves here in New England. 643 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: You know, all I do is I ask questions and 644 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: we don't script these interviews. So I'm going to ask 645 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: you a question and if you can help me out, 646 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: that's great. At the time in the era of let's 647 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: say the turn of the century two thousand, when you 648 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 2: received your heart transplant two thousand and one. Yeah, how 649 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 2: much more common today have heart transplants become? I have 650 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: to assume, and I'm making an assumption, and everybody knows 651 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: what the first three letters of the verb the noun 652 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 2: assumption is. I'm assuming that heart transplants were more rare 653 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: when you needed one than they are today. 654 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 5: I would say that I don't know whether I do 655 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,959 Speaker 5: is rare, but I would say that there are far 656 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 5: more transplants happening today than was happening twenty five years ago. 657 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 5: And that's due to a multitude of reasons, as far 658 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 5: as continuing to improve technologies and techniques to expand the 659 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 5: use of all potential organs for transplant. Transplant centers on 660 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 5: themselves that receive organs on behalf of their patients, they 661 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 5: have increased and improved their techniques and technologies. And we 662 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 5: also have more organs today available for transplant than we 663 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 5: ever have, and that is because of some cutting edge 664 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 5: organ perfusion devices and techniques, So many different things that 665 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 5: have come our way to transport organs in x DVO 666 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 5: organ perfusion devices and really improve the function of donated organs, 667 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 5: especially from older and more medically complex donors, and so 668 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 5: it's really it's really vital, and it's continuing to grow 669 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 5: and evolve, and the goal is to continue to transplant 670 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 5: more and more patients with the goal of reducing and 671 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 5: maybe someday eliminating the national organ donation waiting list. 672 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: Woll Boy, It's an incredible story, and yours is an 673 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 2: incredible story. 674 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: I hope, thank. 675 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: You you're feeling great. You sound great. I've never met you, 676 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: so I have no way of knowing how active you are, 677 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: but I'm assuming that you're doing things now that never 678 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 2: would have been anticipated when you first had your heart transplant. 679 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: I've got to assume that things are getting better for you. 680 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: I hope every day, every week, every month. 681 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 5: Absolutely, yes, I've done so many things. And that's another 682 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 5: thing folks need to remember that a transplant not only 683 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 5: saves that patient's life, a transplant enables that patient to 684 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 5: return to life and to be able to graduate high school. 685 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 5: These are some of my examples. I was able to 686 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 5: graduate high school. I was able to go off to 687 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 5: college and earn a degree at Bridgewater State University. I 688 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 5: was able to get married and marry my beautiful wife, Kim. 689 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 5: And not only was I able to enter life and 690 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 5: return to her career and things like that. But my 691 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 5: wife and I were able to have two beautiful children, 692 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 5: my two sons, Cameron and Kayden. They are alive not 693 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 5: on this earth because of the power of donation and transplant, 694 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 5: because a donor family put aside the grief for one 695 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 5: brief moment and chose to support donation, and that donor 696 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 5: became an organ donor. Because of that act, not only 697 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 5: am I alive, but my children are here on this 698 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 5: earth today. 699 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: Ken, just an inspirational interview. Not often do I have 700 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 2: inspirational interviews on Nightside, but this is one that I 701 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 2: will remember for a long time. Kenny Laferrier, Ken, I 702 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: wish you great health for many, many, many decades to come. 703 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. To celebrate Heart Month, which of 704 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: course is February here with us on Nightside. 705 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 5: Thank you. Dan. If I could just ask people to 706 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 5: register themselves to be a don't a donor on register 707 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 5: me dot org on the National Donor Registry. 708 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm sure some people are heading to do that 709 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 2: right now. Thanks again, k Thank you Dan, my pleasure, 710 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 2: Congratulations night, good night. When we come back, when we're 711 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: talking with another I think great person, a philanthropist and 712 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: a businessman and a really good guy. Ernie Bak Junior 713 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 2: talking about his children's nonprofit music drives us his belief 714 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 2: that music has the power to transform lives. Let me 715 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 2: tell you that was a great interview, and we're gonna 716 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: have a great hour with Ernie walk coming up right 717 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: after the nine o'clock news here on Nightside