Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 2: All right, here we go on it's Tuesday morning, slowey,
Speaker 2: seven hundred w and in a cold one at that's
Speaker 2: also Veterans Day twenty twenty five. Thank you for all
Speaker 2: of you who have served our country. More on that
Speaker 2: a little bit later on. It looks like Congress may
Speaker 2: be actually getting off their butts and moving forward. Here
Speaker 2: could pass a funding passage this week and ending. And
Speaker 2: once that happens, by the way, Trump should sign it,
Speaker 2: and that will end the longest government shutdown in our
Speaker 2: nation's history. In the history of America, we have never
Speaker 2: been shut down this long. We're seeing. Of course the
Speaker 2: snap benefits also flight delays and cancelations are part of
Speaker 2: this thing. It's going to take a while for that
Speaker 2: to get back together. But on this is Representative Greg Landsman,
Speaker 2: who also is sitting on his hands right now in
Speaker 2: his house. Greg, how are you.
Speaker 3: I'm about to go to DC, but yes, I'm down.
Speaker 4: Good, are you?
Speaker 2: I'm fine?
Speaker 4: Veteran?
Speaker 2: Yes, And thank you to all those who've served, by the.
Speaker 3: Way, yeah, everyone, everyone who's listened, who's served, genuinely, from
Speaker 3: the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Speaker 2: I was in the service. I'm a Navy veteran. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty four hours. I was in for twenty
Speaker 2: four hours on a media tour. So I think I
Speaker 2: get I think I get complimentary ice with my soda today.
Speaker 2: I believe if I get a pope, I could complimise.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we didn't get invade for that twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: Before I go to DC, I'll do a bunch of
Speaker 3: veterans today events and they're the best. We honor the
Speaker 3: Veteran of the Year, both for Warren and Hamilton County,
Speaker 3: and they're just remarkable, remarkable human beings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so critical to what it is we do
Speaker 2: here now, and sometimes we was sight of that, like
Speaker 2: with the shutdown. It seems counterintuitive thinking veterans and talking
Speaker 2: about the history of this great nation, the successes and
Speaker 2: challenges we face, and then we're fighting over dumb stuff largely.
Speaker 2: But we have eight Senate Democrats, including Schumer, who broke
Speaker 2: ranks to get this deal done, and it's going to
Speaker 2: reverse the reductions in force and the where we're allegedly
Speaker 2: getting a vote on the Affordable Care Act text credits
Speaker 2: should be coming soon and refund Sam. Maybe the question
Speaker 2: would be then why now, why is this happening now?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I mean, it's not clear why.
Speaker 3: These folks sort of, I think gave in because you know,
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, there wasn't real bipartisan
Speaker 3: negotiations the president. And this is the first time ever
Speaker 3: in my life I've ever seen a president sort of
Speaker 3: not participate in something like this. I think the whole
Speaker 3: thing has been absurd. There should never have been a shutdown.
Speaker 3: If if if you're you got a government that's this
Speaker 3: close right that, you know, it's it's almost an equal
Speaker 3: number of Democrats and Republicans in both the House and
Speaker 3: the Senate, even though Republicans have the majority, Like you've
Speaker 3: got to work together. Everyone has to work together. And
Speaker 3: it's like it's the American way, like we do.
Speaker 4: Better when we work together.
Speaker 3: And there's been none of that. And so in the
Speaker 3: absence of that, a few of these Senate Democrats decided, look,
Speaker 3: enough enough and we'll get what we can. But you know,
Speaker 3: they they feel like we gotta do it now, and
Speaker 3: without the healthcare for peace, I can't abandon thirty two
Speaker 3: thousand people might diss story too about to see skyrocketing
Speaker 3: healthcare costs because they didn't extend the affordable care accessidies.
Speaker 2: Are you voting an acid?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I think most of us who
Speaker 3: have been like fighting this healthcare fight will have to
Speaker 3: vote against it.
Speaker 4: But the fact is is.
Speaker 3: Like we're going to be here in the same place.
Speaker 3: It's money in three months. Like this is not a
Speaker 3: long term funding bill. This was reopened the government, I
Speaker 3: mean everyone thankfully, food assistants will go out and all
Speaker 3: these other things that have been held up. I believe
Speaker 3: unnecessarily by the administration. They could have provided relief during
Speaker 3: this whole thing. But we're going to be back. And
Speaker 3: the question is is that our Republicans and Democrats are
Speaker 3: going to work together, you know, And I think in
Speaker 3: the next round, Democrats need to be crystal clear about
Speaker 3: what they're focused on, and it should be entirely on
Speaker 3: the American people and costs and the things that are
Speaker 3: going to bring costs down, like health care. I believe
Speaker 3: that from the beginning it should have been reopened to
Speaker 3: government and extend the subsidies so that people don't see
Speaker 3: their healthcare premium skyrocket. That's crystal clear, and that's what
Speaker 3: they ended up landing. On. But at our last, you know,
Speaker 3: the eleventh hour, I think Republicans have to you know,
Speaker 3: sort of buck Trump or push Trump to actually work
Speaker 3: with Democrats because we need each other and we can't
Speaker 3: keep doing this.
Speaker 2: What would be great, Greg Lansman. I mean, let's face it, Democrats,
Speaker 2: you guys, you're not making healthcare more affordable. You're making
Speaker 2: it worse with subsidy because you're giving people taxpayer money
Speaker 2: to pay outrageously expensive care that doesn't solve the problem money, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and it causes prices to go up, just like college subsidies,
Speaker 2: Like okay, we subsidized college and the price goes up
Speaker 2: ten percent a year. But Republicans have been complained about
Speaker 2: this for ten years and still have no plan or
Speaker 2: alternative that's better. That's a failure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a failure. I mean, there's no question about it.
Speaker 3: But I believe in this idea that people generally, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, want their tax dollars coming
Speaker 3: back to them, and you know, when they're looking, fewer
Speaker 3: and fewer people can get health care through their employer.
Speaker 3: More and more employers are saying, look, go to you know,
Speaker 3: we can't afford it because health care costs have gone
Speaker 3: a big time, and a lot of that has to
Speaker 3: do with how much profit is taken out throughout the system.
Speaker 3: And then you know, when you go to the marketplace
Speaker 3: and you buy your healthcare, which small businesses have to do,
Speaker 3: farmers or all these folks who are not working for
Speaker 3: a big company that can afford healthcare, you look at
Speaker 3: a premium and you're like, Okay, I need a little
Speaker 3: bit of help. And that's where these subjecties come into play.
Speaker 3: And it goes to the insurance companies, which may be
Speaker 3: a problem, but you know, the fact of the matter
Speaker 3: is is that these insurance companies are going to continue
Speaker 3: to raise the cost and until we have real reform.
Speaker 3: And in the meantime, you're either leaving these folks out
Speaker 3: to go into medical debt or lose their health care altogether,
Speaker 3: which will raise everyone's. Else is the people who are
Speaker 3: going to leave that lose their healthcare, the healthy ones,
Speaker 3: because they're going to look at it and they're say,
Speaker 3: I'm healthy, I can't afford this without any support, without
Speaker 3: any subsidy, and everyone's healthcare costs are going to go up.
Speaker 3: I think it was a huge, huge, huge policy and
Speaker 3: political mistake for them not to include these extensions.
Speaker 2: I have no problem with extending this for a limited
Speaker 2: period of time, but a year or whatever it might be.
Speaker 2: But there's also got to be a concrete go listen,
Speaker 2: we have to blow this up and fix the problem.
Speaker 2: The subsidy. Yeah, I agree with I get why we
Speaker 2: subsidize it. It makes a problem worse. But simply pulling
Speaker 2: the carpetif from people is punitive, is what it is.
Speaker 2: You know, this is them that both sides agreed on
Speaker 2: for the time being, and so you've got to continue that.
Speaker 2: I don't like it any more than anyone else does.
Speaker 2: I get that. But you simply say we're turning to
Speaker 2: spick it off, and hey, good luck, because now you're
Speaker 2: going to flood hospitals, emergency rooms and it's just gonna
Speaker 2: it's just going to increase the cost of healthcare and
Speaker 2: make it worse for everyone involved. Instead of sitting down
Speaker 2: and solving the problem, going Okay, we're going to stend
Speaker 2: this for a period of time and we have X
Speaker 2: amount of days or years, whatever it is, to come
Speaker 2: up with a solution that's going to bring costs down
Speaker 2: and take care of people who fall between the cracks,
Speaker 2: but at the same time make healthcare accessible and bring
Speaker 2: the cost down like the rest of the world. I
Speaker 2: know it's a big problem, but we've been talking this
Speaker 2: now for generations. I don't know why we can't get
Speaker 2: together and solve this.
Speaker 3: Leadership, right, I mean, ultimately, when we solve big problems,
Speaker 3: it's because there's been a big time leader, and you know,
Speaker 3: we don't have that right now. And then this is
Speaker 3: this is an indictment on both sides, but we just
Speaker 3: don't have the kind of big time leaders that can
Speaker 3: get people in a room, and so all these really
Speaker 3: complicated issues. I spent Saturday in South Lebanon and it
Speaker 3: was on immigration. It was with a group called Braver Angels.
Speaker 3: They pulled together ten Republicans and ten Democrats and they
Speaker 3: had already spent a day in September working through the
Speaker 3: immigration issue, and I think it was five hours. They
Speaker 3: came to what would be really good transformative policy on
Speaker 3: border security and immigration reform, and you know, it just
Speaker 3: reminded me, and then we got a chance to talk
Speaker 3: through it. It reminded me that the American people, the vast
Speaker 3: majority of people, are somewhere in the middle right seventy
Speaker 3: eighty percent of us are somewhere in the middle. We
Speaker 3: just need the kind of leadership that said, look, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to I'm not going to be hyperpartisan. I'm
Speaker 3: actually going to solve this. And so you know, with
Speaker 3: a big time leader, you could have somebody say, look,
Speaker 3: I'm going to put people in a room on immigration,
Speaker 3: I'm going to put people in the room on healthcare,
Speaker 3: I'm going to put people in a room on costs,
Speaker 3: and you would see big, big change.
Speaker 2: All right, So we're back to this anyway. Representative Greg
Speaker 2: Landsman on the show, and it looks like we're going
Speaker 2: to get opening up the government here after the longest
Speaker 2: shutdown in our history. Democrats like yourself want the shutdown,
Speaker 2: say we're not going to settle for the promise of
Speaker 2: a vote, but that's what happened, and one said it's
Speaker 2: an awful deal and a total failure too. So are
Speaker 2: you going to be punished for this by your constituents,
Speaker 2: so specifically the progressive and Democrats for for what happened here?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I've been in this fight on
Speaker 3: the on the healthcare piece, and you know where last
Speaker 3: majority of folks are which is reopen, extend the you know,
Speaker 3: extend the subsidies, make sure that people don't see skyrocketing
Speaker 3: health care costs. And and my position hasn't changed, So
Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to keep petting for this and
Speaker 3: and and I think my constituents are there with me.
Speaker 3: I think they're relieved that the government's going to be opened.
Speaker 3: And yeah, at the end of the day, I think
Speaker 3: they hate the chaos and the I'm the opposite of that, right,
Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm about as structured and disciplined and
Speaker 3: reliable as you get.
Speaker 6: So my sense is.
Speaker 3: That people are and I do. I hear this so
Speaker 3: much traveling around the district, which I've had the opportunity
Speaker 3: to do more so because of the shutdown. I've been
Speaker 3: all over and it's been that part's been great. People
Speaker 3: are so tired of the hyperpartisan politics, the fact that
Speaker 3: everyone's yelling at them at each other and not focused
Speaker 3: on them. They are they're they're underwater. I mean, farmers
Speaker 3: are panicked in terms of what they're dealing with, small businesses.
Speaker 3: Everyone is struggling, not a little bit of pain, but
Speaker 3: a lot of pain in terms of trying to pay
Speaker 3: their bills and they look to you know, politics and
Speaker 3: they're like, well, there's just fighting with each other. This
Speaker 3: is this is absurd, And you know, I'd stay out
Speaker 3: of those fights and try desperately to find people to
Speaker 3: work with. And we had a crew that was working
Speaker 3: on a you know, a bipartisan solution, but they're just
Speaker 3: there just wasn't ultimately any interest from the White House
Speaker 3: and others.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously it's two sides of willing to negotiate here,
Speaker 2: but you mentioned that vast majority of the silent majority
Speaker 2: in the middle. It doesn't seem like it's getting better.
Speaker 2: It seems like it's getting worse. And you know, whether
Speaker 2: it's the healthcare or what's going with the economy, it's
Speaker 2: our federal dead and we can talk about all those
Speaker 2: things that it doesn't seem like the needle's moving. It's
Speaker 2: more about messaging, posturing in our side or their side
Speaker 2: of winning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, that's what I see. That's you know, this
Speaker 3: has been nice to be sort of away from all
Speaker 3: that because quite frankly, like you come back here and
Speaker 3: that's not what people want and it's not what they're
Speaker 3: talking about. And this is my community of my people
Speaker 3: I love it, and it's it's a good reminder that
Speaker 3: this is this is broken. The whole thing is broken,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know it's going to require like it
Speaker 3: is entirely possible that it's gotten so bad that what
Speaker 3: follows this is some sort of postpartisan you know, crew
Speaker 3: of leaders who just work right and they're focused entirely
Speaker 3: on on their constituents, which is the way democracy should work.
Speaker 3: Whether or not that happens, you know, that is up
Speaker 3: to us. But I you know, like I do think
Speaker 3: that's I mean, look, I'm I'm a little bit more optimistic.
Speaker 3: I think it's so bad. It's funny that that people
Speaker 3: are going to say no, Like if you if you're running,
Speaker 3: do not be one of these partisan hacks. We can't
Speaker 3: do it anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like, you know, moderates aren't necessarily taking
Speaker 2: things back. I mean, you have a better perspective at
Speaker 2: than I do. I mean, you're a moderate, but you're
Speaker 2: few far between. Is a very small coalition.
Speaker 3: I'm a pragmatism, somebody who likes to get to work
Speaker 3: and some things, I'm moderate on some things, I'm progressing
Speaker 3: on the conservative I feel like I'm where my constituents
Speaker 3: are and this district and you know, the district is
Speaker 3: more sort of you know, pragmatic. But if I look
Speaker 3: at election results and in Virginia and in New Jersey,
Speaker 3: you know, Mikey Cheryl is a good friend, and Abigail
Speaker 3: Spamberger is a friend, they are very much like me.
Speaker 3: They are very much pragmatic folks who focus entirely on issues.
Speaker 3: They like solving problems, and they aren't partisan hacks. They
Speaker 3: one big So I do think if if you know,
Speaker 3: if both parties allow the folks who you know, who
Speaker 3: are who represents that big majority, uh, you know, if
Speaker 3: they let them out of primaries or they can find
Speaker 3: their way out of a primary, those are the folks
Speaker 3: that are going to win, whether they're Republicans or Democrats
Speaker 3: like they just you know, if you if you if
Speaker 3: you decide that you're going to you know, cater to
Speaker 3: the far lefter the far right, you may win a primary,
Speaker 3: but that's just not going to get the country anywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But again it's the rules of engagement written by the
Speaker 2: Democrats and Republicans. I'm going to look at redistricting here
Speaker 2: in Ohio on how you're bearing the part of that
Speaker 2: right now, it's going to be hard for you. But
Speaker 2: I can also point to California and what they're doing there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all awful.
Speaker 3: I mean, I on the California piece, like, I understand
Speaker 3: why they're doing it, but I don't understand why they're
Speaker 3: celebrating it. Partisan jerry mandering is one of the worst
Speaker 3: things that has ever happened to our democracy. And then
Speaker 3: that's not hyperbolic. It takes away, you know, the power
Speaker 3: of voters. You know, in these instances where you do
Speaker 3: partisan jerrymandering, where they do it, the decision is made
Speaker 3: before people even get their valid and it's terrible. So
Speaker 3: you know, Congress has to pass and this is going
Speaker 3: to require I think those of us who are so
Speaker 3: passionate about it to start organizing and be louder about
Speaker 3: it and get people engaged in this pass an anti
Speaker 3: partisan jerry mandering bill to protect the democracy. You know,
Speaker 3: both Republicans and Democrats have to stop doing it and
Speaker 3: return power back to people because the reason why things
Speaker 3: are so bad economically is because we've lost so much
Speaker 3: of our power and the folks at the top can
Speaker 3: can rig it, and they've rigged it. They've rigged it
Speaker 3: for themselves and they're making money hand over fi at
Speaker 3: our expense. You know, just one you know example, because
Speaker 3: I was out in Warren County and talking to farmers
Speaker 3: this week and or last week. These huge megafarms. They
Speaker 3: have all this private capital, they get all this money,
Speaker 3: and they're just that plus the tariffs, they're just taking
Speaker 3: it out on our farmers. I mean, it's this is
Speaker 3: this is a real crisis for farmers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I mean it's not like we're cutting off you know,
Speaker 2: we're a lot more productive when it comes to farm
Speaker 2: line where they're just a generation to go. I mean,
Speaker 2: and that's that's a separate discussion entirely. And you know,
Speaker 2: we're moving more towards AI and we need to put
Speaker 2: those things in for sure. I don't want to get
Speaker 2: off in the weeds here because we're talking about the
Speaker 2: government reopening and healthcare and how that all fits into
Speaker 2: the thing. And we're just going to do this again
Speaker 2: in three months, right, it's a few weeks from now,
Speaker 2: Are we going to have another shutdown? And if I
Speaker 2: were looking at and go yeah, probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless unless unless the disposition of the White House changes.
Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, I know this skills or
Speaker 3: sounds potentially part of some. But I would say this
Speaker 3: if it was a Democrat and the Democrat in the
Speaker 3: White House wasn't negotiating. The President of the United States
Speaker 3: has to engage. They have to engage. They are the
Speaker 3: they are the person in charge. They have to bring
Speaker 3: people together. And again, this deal would have been done,
Speaker 3: you know, within a matter of days. There should never
Speaker 3: have been a shutdown.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You know, my understanding is that when they went in
Speaker 3: there and they had this one conversation with Trump about it,
Speaker 3: he was supportive of of the healthcare supports and understood
Speaker 3: that they needed to get past It was Johnson who said,
Speaker 3: well wait a minute, because you didn't have the votes
Speaker 3: you know, on his side. But he you know, if
Speaker 3: you rely entirely on partisan votes, you're not going to
Speaker 3: get a good result.
Speaker 6: You're going to get this.
Speaker 3: You're going to get this.
Speaker 2: It's chaos. Yeah, and we're just gonna I think we're
Speaker 2: gonna have more of it in just a few short
Speaker 2: months again. But you know, for the for the short term,
Speaker 2: make sure people are whole. Let's keep it the way
Speaker 2: it is. I don't like having to pay more for it,
Speaker 2: but this doesn't do anything. Actually, what we just did
Speaker 2: with the shutdown makes government even more expensive because we're
Speaker 2: borrowing more money and we're going to do that with
Speaker 2: healthcare subsidies or just transferrents of wealth. I'd rather it
Speaker 2: be that we have some sort of health I don't
Speaker 2: know what it's going to look like in the future.
Speaker 2: I'm more libertarian, Greg, I think that the free market
Speaker 2: can solve this if government backs off, put some roadblocks
Speaker 2: in and rules for everybody, and especially this day and
Speaker 2: age when people are helding multiple jobs. It's the gig economy.
Speaker 2: It makes no sense to till your employment benefits to
Speaker 2: your workplace. Most Americans get it through their workplace, but
Speaker 2: that's a dwindling number. The big companies can afford it.
Speaker 2: The bulk the bulk of business in America small business
Speaker 2: and like my wife, we're small business people. We don't
Speaker 2: pay benefits. We can't afford that. And if we're going
Speaker 2: to have a portable gig economy, these things have to
Speaker 2: work together. Greg Landsman, Representative, Now get back to DC
Speaker 2: and do something about it. All right, take care, thanks again,
Speaker 2: be well saved. Travel's got to get a time out
Speaker 2: in and uh, remembering our veterans today with Honor Flight.
Speaker 2: By the way, Honor Flight turning twenty years old, twenty
Speaker 2: years old, and it was there's a chakra for you.
Speaker 2: It started right here in the Tri State details coming
Speaker 2: up next to the Scott flund Show seven hundred WOW
Speaker 2: Scott plumb Out seven hundred WLW on the eleventh day
Speaker 2: of November twenty to twenty ft. Also, it is Veterans Day,
Speaker 2: and of course a lot of you know, places are
Speaker 2: doing things, well we should. A lot of places are
Speaker 2: doing things for veterans. I know, the Casino's got free
Speaker 2: food for veterans this afternoon, a bunch of other places
Speaker 2: as well. Just google it, our check seven hundred ww
Speaker 2: dot com got more on that one. One of the
Speaker 2: things we do for veterans. This is a really really
Speaker 2: cool thing that started just twenty years ago. On Or Flight,
Speaker 2: the nonprofit organization that provides free trips to d c
Speaker 2: for military veterans to visit the memorials dedicated to their service.
Speaker 2: And I mentioned it's been gone for twenty years, so
Speaker 2: the twentieth anniversary is today. That organization in the Tri
Speaker 2: State and Dayton and on. This is Adam Arrow is
Speaker 2: a news director at ABC twenty two in Dayton twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven now and he's got a piece that's
Speaker 2: running on about four stations for markets in the Buckeye
Speaker 2: State as well, including here in Cincinnati. Adam, welcome back.
Speaker 6: How you been, Hey, doing well, Scott? Thanks a lot
Speaker 6: for having me. This is a wonderful program. It's that
Speaker 6: we've been able to highly invest in over the last
Speaker 6: during my time over the last ten years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is cool and it came on to
Speaker 2: its own as I said in two thousand and five,
Speaker 2: and you may have heard about it too, But these
Speaker 2: are and these the trips are it's a one day
Speaker 2: trip to d C. Veterans get to go to the
Speaker 2: memorials and they're taken by either loved one or a
Speaker 2: volunteer guardian who system throughout the day and then they
Speaker 2: fly back and it's really really cool. What do you
Speaker 2: know what memorial say?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 6: They visit most of them. So we've had an opportunity
Speaker 6: to go on three of these trips. They'll go to
Speaker 6: the US Marine Corps Memorial, to go to the Lincoln Memorial,
Speaker 6: the Vietnam Memorial, the Korea War Memorial, and the World
Speaker 6: War Two Memorial. This all started Scott in Springfield back
Speaker 6: in two thousand and five. A man by the Earl
Speaker 6: Morse was a physician assistant over at the Springfield DA
Speaker 6: And it was right after the World War Two Memorial
Speaker 6: was built in DC. It built two thousand and four,
Speaker 6: and he was speaking with some of the World War
Speaker 6: Two vets and trying he said, hey, guys, he decided
Speaker 6: to go to your memorial now that it's finally built,
Speaker 6: and it's like, well, we don't think we can make it,
Speaker 6: you know, for age or monetary reasons. So that really
Speaker 6: frustrated him. And he had belonged to an aero club
Speaker 6: over at Right Path and so that's the Air Force
Speaker 6: base here up in Dayton. And he started talking to
Speaker 6: somebody these of their small pilots and they just decided,
Speaker 6: you know what, we're going to fly them ourselves. And
Speaker 6: so six pilots took off in two thousand and five
Speaker 6: and took a handful of these World War Two veterans
Speaker 6: to DC and it just snowball from there. It inspired
Speaker 6: a movement across the country. Now there's one hundred and
Speaker 6: twenty eight I believe hubs across the country, including Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is incredible and it started right in Springfield
Speaker 2: in two thousand and five because someone said, hey, how
Speaker 2: come we can't get these guys and women to see
Speaker 2: what it is we built for them. And yeah, it
Speaker 2: makes sense in retrospect that you know, you should be
Speaker 2: able to see the memorial you help craft, absolutely, and
Speaker 2: it continues to grow as well. You mentioned there's over
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty nationwide, and I think other cities
Speaker 2: just continue to get on and say, hey, this is
Speaker 2: something we need to do well.
Speaker 6: And especially it's a ball of too right because there's
Speaker 6: you know, unfortunately there's not as many World War Two
Speaker 6: vets with us anymore, so it's evolved into mostly Vietnam
Speaker 6: and some Korea. Thats taking the DC And for these
Speaker 6: Vietnam guys, I mean, you know, they were craped on
Speaker 6: when they came back, the majority of them were, and
Speaker 6: they didn't get that welcome home. Many of them hid,
Speaker 6: you know, who they were and what they did, and
Speaker 6: they don't talk about their service. And then they get
Speaker 6: an opportunity to go on this honor flight and it's
Speaker 6: very cathartic for many of them, and they get that
Speaker 6: welcome home when they come back to the airport and
Speaker 6: everyone's cheering for them and telling them thank you, and
Speaker 6: throughout the trips they're getting the sixty kind of treatment
Speaker 6: while they're in DC, and it just means the world
Speaker 6: to these guys. And you can see it in their faces.
Speaker 6: You see the gears, you see the hugs. You know,
Speaker 6: when you get to that wall, especially in the Vietnam Wall,
Speaker 6: it's one of the most powerful experiences, you know, that
Speaker 6: I've experienced as a civilian. You know, I don't have
Speaker 6: a military background, but seeing these guys and the weight
Speaker 6: that it lifts off their shoulders, it's truly remarkable.
Speaker 2: He's Adam Arrow, ABC twenty two and Dayton twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven now has a store that's running in four markets,
Speaker 2: including Sincy. Regarding today the twentieth anniversary on this Veterans
Speaker 2: Day of Honor Flight that takes our veterans to DC
Speaker 2: for a one day trip, It's long day for these guys,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 6: It is a long day.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: We went on the trip for Honor Flight Dayton back
Speaker 6: in September, which was really exciting because they for the
Speaker 6: first time they took military aircraft. They two sea some
Speaker 6: teens on the right pad and they took one hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty six vets to DC, which was the first
Speaker 6: time they've done that in the program's history. They typically
Speaker 6: will take commercial airliners to try to maximize how many
Speaker 6: vets they can take on the trip. So that was
Speaker 6: kind of the catalyst to doing a special tonight, which
Speaker 6: is a half hour special, and we're going to re
Speaker 6: air that story that we did. It's a long form story,
Speaker 6: and then we talked to Earl Earl Morris, who founded
Speaker 6: on a Flight, and we did a story with him
Speaker 6: just talking about the genesis of the program. And then
Speaker 6: we also include a second trip that we took in
Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, which was the first trip that Honor
Speaker 6: Flight Dayton had taken coming out of the pandemic, and
Speaker 6: so that was highly emotionally charged because you had a
Speaker 6: lot of vets that weren't able to go because the
Speaker 6: program had to be shut down for a couple of years.
Speaker 6: So all in all, I mean, it's a thirty minutes
Speaker 6: of a couple of trips and just the history of
Speaker 6: this great program.
Speaker 2: Adam Ara on how's the funding. It seems like we've
Speaker 2: got enough corporate sponsors and backers to keep this thing going,
Speaker 2: and that's true in here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 6: What about Dave, Yeah, it's the same thing, right, It's
Speaker 6: all donations, you know, these Honor Flight boards, they they
Speaker 6: all volunteer their time. They go out and solicit sponsorships
Speaker 6: and donations. And because you know, reserving a commercial airliner
Speaker 6: is not cheap, right, I mean it's it's you know,
Speaker 6: one hundred thousand dollars, you know, just to do that.
Speaker 6: So they, thankfully it's an easy program to get behind.
Speaker 6: So there's been a lot of great businesses throughout the
Speaker 6: tri state and across the country that have financially backed
Speaker 6: this program to get these vets on these trips because
Speaker 6: you know, some of them will put it off and
Speaker 6: they won't go. And really the push right now is
Speaker 6: to get as many of these guys and men and
Speaker 6: women on these trips as possible because it truly does
Speaker 6: make a big difference in their lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: In fact, I'll tell you, I'll tell you one story.
Speaker 6: We had a guy on our trip in twenty twenty
Speaker 6: two who went and he passed away before the story aired,
Speaker 6: but I found out from his family that he was
Speaker 6: buried in his Honor flight. Sure, I mean, that's the
Speaker 6: kind of power that these trips have on these guys.
Speaker 6: And he's not unique to that. There's been many, many
Speaker 6: cases of that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's nice to have some respect. But I
Speaker 2: think it's closure for a lot of these guys, well,
Speaker 2: especially the Vietnam era vets that that get to go
Speaker 2: see that memorial, that have those memories. But that's also
Speaker 2: true of Korean War and World War Two vets, which
Speaker 2: of course that that generation is tapping out, so to speak.
Speaker 2: And I know they prioritize these flights, so if you
Speaker 2: are the older, you are the you know, for example,
Speaker 2: World War Two veterans get top priority. Correct.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they'll they'll go out of their way to
Speaker 6: make it work. And I can't emphasize it enough. There's
Speaker 6: hubs all across Ohio. Just google Honor Flight Ohio and
Speaker 6: you'll find a hub near you and you can get
Speaker 6: on one of these trips, apply and go because it
Speaker 6: is it is one of the most incredible experiences. I
Speaker 6: can't speak enough about the people behind the program and
Speaker 6: how much work they put in.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you covered this in the piece, Adam,
Speaker 2: but they do flightless Honor Flight. Now for those veterans
Speaker 2: who are unable to.
Speaker 6: Travel flightless You mean the RV trips.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they call them flightless honor flights and for those
Speaker 2: who physically can't make the trip to DC anymore.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that that is a neat part of it.
Speaker 6: There's also the Honoring Yesterday's Hero program, which is where
Speaker 6: they take photos of the families better and take them
Speaker 6: to DC and take a photograph of that photo with
Speaker 6: an American flag at the memorial representing the conflict that
Speaker 6: they served in. So they did they go, They really
Speaker 6: go out of their way to try to honor these
Speaker 6: these men and women in every way possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Talk about how the guardian process works too, because
Speaker 2: not all vets are bringing someone with them, especially the
Speaker 2: older ones that have lost people around them. And so
Speaker 2: you can also volunteer to become one of those guardians.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So one of the things when they first started
Speaker 6: the program was e Remorse made it a point. He said, look,
Speaker 6: rule number one, they're not going to pay. And rule
Speaker 6: number two, when you fly these guys out, you're going
Speaker 6: to stay with them all day. You're not going to
Speaker 6: wander off to go do something else. And so you
Speaker 6: can volunteer and you can have family members they don't
Speaker 6: do spouses because they want it to be a much
Speaker 6: more focused trips. But you know, I've seen granddaughters or grandsons,
Speaker 6: you know, be a guardian for their for their grandparents,
Speaker 6: or a son or daughter. In fact, we talked to
Speaker 6: a son and daughter, a father and daughter pairing on
Speaker 6: our last trip that we went in September, and it's
Speaker 6: just a remarkable experience. And to be able to see
Speaker 6: it just from a from their perspective, and to be
Speaker 6: with them all day, it's just it's amazing to say
Speaker 6: the least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is pretty cool. You also volunteer, as they said,
Speaker 2: and there's a cost to you to do that, but
Speaker 2: I mean, to get to see that up close and
Speaker 2: that personal on the day is is it's enriching for everyone,
Speaker 2: but you're also helping out of that and having that
Speaker 2: story come to a conclusion their service for our country.
Speaker 2: And this also includes not just war veterans too, but
Speaker 2: I know the terminally ill veterans from any area are
Speaker 2: eligible here provided you know that it's based on age
Speaker 2: sixty five and older, and the older you are, the
Speaker 2: more prioror you get for obvious reasons, but even terminally
Speaker 2: ill veterans get a chance to go to this.
Speaker 6: Well they do, and you know some of these that's
Speaker 6: you know, they they're so humble and they feel bad, like, well,
Speaker 6: I didn't serve in the actual conflict, but I served
Speaker 6: during the conflict, right Like I wasn't in a battle
Speaker 6: or anything. But you know that doesn't matter. You served
Speaker 6: your country and that's what that's what it comes down to,
Speaker 6: and that's what these trips are designed for. You don't
Speaker 6: you don't have to have served in a in a
Speaker 6: battle or you know any of that stuff. If you're serve,
Speaker 6: if you served your country, I mean, that's that's who
Speaker 6: that's what they're looking for to take on these trips.
Speaker 2: All right. So sure, So if you're in Dayton, this
Speaker 2: is on when.
Speaker 6: The Dayton Specialty. So that half hour special airs on
Speaker 6: ABC twenty two tonight at seven and then it airs
Speaker 6: on Fox at ten thirty tonight. So and in Cincinnati
Speaker 6: it air is at ten this morning on Star sixty four.
Speaker 6: So it's also wearing a Toledo and Columbus as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, So if you're hearing this and you want
Speaker 2: to check that out or go to a date in
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven now and you can watch it
Speaker 2: on demand, i'd imagine as well. Adam Arrow, news director
Speaker 2: up there, thanks again for jumping on this morning. And
Speaker 2: it's an important story and an important day, so I'm
Speaker 2: glad we're getting the word out about this. And if
Speaker 2: you're looking to volunteer or maybe make a donation and
Speaker 2: get involved, you can reach out to a Honor Flight,
Speaker 2: which was created right in Springfield, so right here in
Speaker 2: our community. Thanks again, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thanks God, I appreciate your time.
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Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 2: Scott blown back on seven hundred WWT first snowfall yesterday.
Speaker 2: But if you're in the city of Cincinnati and you
Speaker 2: went to the new and highly publicized snowplow tracker website,
Speaker 2: it was not working. Wasn't up. Why Well, he's I
Speaker 2: would call him mister Plow. He just ran a very
Speaker 2: successful re election campaign and he won. That'd be council
Speaker 2: Member Seth Walsh. Congratulations. By the way, I'm glad you
Speaker 2: got your seat back or retain your seat. I guess
Speaker 2: I should say thanks, Scott.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: This morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you too. We talked a lot about transportation. I
Speaker 2: saw your you know, your campaign ads featured snow removal issues.
Speaker 2: It's one of the big big things for people. Obviously
Speaker 2: they felt made that connection, being November and all that.
Speaker 2: So let's go back to this now. We know the
Speaker 2: headaches and heartbreak we had this time last year, or
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit later earlier than last year, but
Speaker 2: two weeks ago the city I think it was two
Speaker 2: weeks ago, we had this, you know, this whole crowdsourcing thing,
Speaker 2: and we're having a contest to come up with a
Speaker 2: better way to get the information about plows working. And
Speaker 2: we've got these investments and we've instructed all the plow
Speaker 2: drivers and workers how to use these tablets and we
Speaker 2: put them in the plows and you can see if
Speaker 2: it's coming down your road or where they are, and
Speaker 2: if you if they're missing you, you can somehow send
Speaker 2: a message back to central Command, the High Command. We'll
Speaker 2: get a plowed to you. We'll get your plowed out.
Speaker 2: We did all this, it snowed yesterday and it wasn't
Speaker 2: on Why.
Speaker 5: Well, I think some bl answer Scott is there weren't
Speaker 5: snowplows out there yesterday. The ground was pretty warm, so
Speaker 5: snow wasn't sticking. They did a lot of pre treatment
Speaker 5: for the streets and you know, it resulted in pretty safe,
Speaker 5: clean streets very quickly yesterday. But I think there's a
Speaker 5: fair there's a fair question there. You know, why why
Speaker 5: are we not including when we're pre treating the streets,
Speaker 5: so you know your streets getting pretreated. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of information. I think people love to know that we're
Speaker 5: not quite there yet. But yesterday some blansters just there
Speaker 5: weren't clouds out there because the weather was taking care
Speaker 5: of it for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think typically, and it's I think it's an
Speaker 2: important point is that we weren't plowing. But certainly you
Speaker 2: know where I lived and coming from Warren County to
Speaker 2: Hamlin County, the roads were well, they were in need
Speaker 2: of some some treatment for sure. You know, maybe not
Speaker 2: plowing technically, but I think when you're a constituent, when
Speaker 2: you're a voter, when you're taxpayer homeowner, you look at
Speaker 2: it going. I don't care plowing or just treating. I
Speaker 2: just want to know you guys are doing your job.
Speaker 2: I just want to know you're out there tackling the problem,
Speaker 2: and I go log on the site that you guys
Speaker 2: pouted the hell out of and it's saying, Wow, there's
Speaker 2: nothing to see here. Forget it. I go here we
Speaker 2: go again with the communication. I think that's I don't
Speaker 2: think that's an unfair analysis of this.
Speaker 5: No, No, it's not unfair at all. And I talked
Speaker 5: about city communication all the time. I think it's the
Speaker 5: only thing we know about each other at this stage.
Speaker 5: But yesterday was the first day that really builded two
Speaker 5: debut things I think we needed. Let me back it up.
Speaker 5: We actually got a briefing yesterday that was coincidentally prepared
Speaker 5: before the snow is planned. And one of the things
Speaker 5: they talked about was there a forty four major areas
Speaker 5: of failures that we had in this last snow emergency
Speaker 5: right back in January. I think a lot of people
Speaker 5: like to try to downplay and say, well, was ten
Speaker 5: inches of snow, what did you expect us to do?
Speaker 5: And the answer is how it? And the reality is like,
Speaker 5: there was a lot of reasons why we couldn't get
Speaker 5: it resolved, and there are forty four major areas to
Speaker 5: resolve it. They have been working incredibly diligently and you
Speaker 5: know that I'm not wont to hold back a criticism.
Speaker 5: So I hope this comes across genuinely here because they
Speaker 5: have worked very diligently to get the entire operation scrapped
Speaker 5: and rebuilt since January, including bringing to a new director
Speaker 5: of Public Services who has just impressed me a snow end.
Speaker 5: Yesterday they debuted it, and I think, like many things
Speaker 5: of the city, we just missed the market on how
Speaker 5: we can do the pr I think we forget that
Speaker 5: people want to play with the new shiny things just
Speaker 5: as much as we want to debut them. And so yesterday,
Speaker 5: you know, it snows and you're like, where's the snowpod tracker?
Speaker 5: It was a design for this, and so there's a
Speaker 5: lot of disappointment, including myself initially, and I asked the briefing, like,
Speaker 5: why aren't we showing off the snowpops, like because there's
Speaker 5: not snowflops, and they're like, oh, that makes sense. But
Speaker 5: I do think that there was a lot more we
Speaker 5: could do in the communications. I think there's more we
Speaker 5: could do to showcase what we're doing to get people
Speaker 5: out there and have you ride along in the snow,
Speaker 5: possibly like here's how it's dramatically different because it is,
Speaker 5: and there's still a lot more work we have to do, right,
Speaker 5: let's not sugarcoat it. There's a lot of work that
Speaker 5: had to go to the rebuildings entire operation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I so were you treating streets at all yesterday
Speaker 2: during the event or was it just a pre treat
Speaker 2: and hey, it's going to melt anyway?
Speaker 5: To my understanding was we did a lot of pre treatment.
Speaker 5: There were some areas that we were getting reports on
Speaker 5: that we were getting out there and doing treatment on.
Speaker 5: But within the city limits, it sounded like they had
Speaker 5: it pretty well under control and that the pretreatment did
Speaker 5: its job. One of the things that I don't think
Speaker 5: they've talked about that, and it sounds insane, but these
Speaker 5: guys actually went out to cities I experienced massive snowfall,
Speaker 5: Denver being the most recent one. How do you guys
Speaker 5: handle this? And they took those lessons they came back
Speaker 5: and to used it to get ready yesterday and you know,
Speaker 5: short of a few car accidents that that I've heard about,
Speaker 5: which you know, I think is on all of us
Speaker 5: to make sure we're driving safe and snow weather. I'm
Speaker 5: from Michigan or from Buffalo. We know what this is like. Yep.
Speaker 5: It sounds like things actually worked pretty smoothly yesterday in
Speaker 5: terms of the actual road condition.
Speaker 2: And that's the hardest parte. I guess that's my point.
Speaker 2: It's the lack of communication. It's getting the ball to
Speaker 2: the goal line and fumbling. And I look at this way.
Speaker 2: For example, our peers around this Louisville, Kentucky Transportation canbiet
Speaker 2: cabinet O Dott Warren County, Butler County. They're active on
Speaker 2: social media saying hey, we're treating the road street. I
Speaker 2: was looking through this morning school and so the only
Speaker 2: thing on there was come and meet. I think a
Speaker 2: police dog was the only text or the only social
Speaker 2: message from a post from the city. At the very least,
Speaker 2: you know, communicate that on social and say, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: we only turn the app on when we are plowing streets,
Speaker 2: not pre treating streets. And then people go, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: yeah that makes sense. But to leave people hanging like
Speaker 2: that is that's just incompetent, isn't it.
Speaker 5: You know, it's frustrating. I think it's frustrating, and I
Speaker 5: think it's part of a culture mindset that I'm personally
Speaker 5: trying to get shifted to the city hall, which is
Speaker 5: they try to solve the problems. They don't necessarily communicate
Speaker 5: how they solve the problem. And that's what we saw yesterday. Hey,
Speaker 5: the problems solved, So no, we knows the problem solved.
Speaker 5: Worried about why the snowpout tract and you did.
Speaker 2: All this hype about the app and so people are
Speaker 2: naturally going to go, oh, I'll see why you know
Speaker 2: what's going on with And it's like, wait, it's down
Speaker 2: and it feels like you failed when actually everything worked.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: You know, there's nothing worse than turning in your paper,
Speaker 5: but the professor loses it. So you're like, well you didn't.
Speaker 5: You didn't do the work in the first place. Right, Ultimately,
Speaker 5: we have to get better if you are as a city.
Speaker 5: I keep saying this over and over again to you.
Speaker 5: I've said it to them personally. I had them on
Speaker 5: their offices yesterday as the snow's coming down, and I
Speaker 5: was like, why are we not showing everybody what we're
Speaker 5: doing because we've put in a lot of work, we
Speaker 5: were ready for this. We've knocked it out of the ballpark.
Speaker 5: I think you'd be blown away. If you meet Mark,
Speaker 5: you know, when you get a chance to get him
Speaker 5: audio to talk about the work he does for public services,
Speaker 5: to make sure that we are ready. But then when
Speaker 5: you're right, when we missed the lowest the lay ups
Speaker 5: to say, hey, it's the first snowfall of the years,
Speaker 5: let's see where the free treatments are. How do you
Speaker 5: know what are we doing. Let's show you with our
Speaker 5: snowpous look like. Let's show you what the tracker looks like.
Speaker 5: We did hype it up a lot. We weren't ready
Speaker 5: to show off shiny new toys. How lets people play
Speaker 5: with them? And I think we can do better at that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but I also think that that's a pr issue and
Speaker 5: the real problem of making sure people get safely to
Speaker 5: it from work. We actually did great on it, and
Speaker 5: the only complaint you've had so far was take County
Speaker 5: Warren County, which I'm gonna take the rare moment to
Speaker 5: deal say. It wasn't the city Cincinnati that failed on
Speaker 5: that part.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I mean, it wasn't a horrific event
Speaker 2: by any means. It was a little bit of snow yesterday,
Speaker 2: but a good test I think for the system and
Speaker 2: it seems like, you know, and I think it's also
Speaker 2: unfair all the people you mentioned Seth is like everyone
Speaker 2: will blame them and go, well, you guys screwed this up. No,
Speaker 2: we did our jobs. It was just a lack of communication.
Speaker 2: And it hasn't been easier. It's never been easier in
Speaker 2: our lifetime. Is only going to get easier to get
Speaker 2: this information through social even a social media, hell, even
Speaker 2: on the web page itself, put say hey, listen, we
Speaker 2: pre treated the roads. Here's what if you're looking for plows,
Speaker 2: here's why at least explain it to be we're going
Speaker 2: to that website. And I think that is also so
Speaker 2: quite honestly a systemic problem for the city because it's
Speaker 2: not just this which is relatively minor. Let's face it,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make a big deal out of something minor.
Speaker 2: But I think it's also emblematic the whole problem is
Speaker 2: is I mean, look at the police department, lack of
Speaker 2: communication from the Mayor's office when it came to Chief
Speaker 2: Fiji and the crime and only recognizing the good things
Speaker 2: and the appearance that aftabs only there for ribbon cuttings
Speaker 2: and the like. Ni he won re election handily, there's
Speaker 2: no debating that. But the problem has always been communication
Speaker 2: with the City of Cincinnati, and I just don't know
Speaker 2: why we're so bad at it.
Speaker 5: I wish I had an answer on that, And again,
Speaker 5: I think it's a cultural issue. I think it's part
Speaker 5: of the form of government that we have. There's an expectation,
Speaker 5: I think from the citizenry that the answers come from
Speaker 5: the politicians, and so the administrative side has taken the
Speaker 5: philosophy of like, we're going to get the problems solved,
Speaker 5: all of the politicians to be the politicians and go
Speaker 5: do the marketing APR well, with all due respect, I
Speaker 5: mean economic development guys. I'm not a PR guy. I'm
Speaker 5: not a guy who know how to put you know.
Speaker 5: I can find really hilarious means on Instagram them and
Speaker 5: so I think that's where the disconnect is. And I
Speaker 5: think part of the job of the politicians and conversations
Speaker 5: that you and I are having here and that I
Speaker 5: had yesterday, is to say to the administration, like, the
Speaker 5: job's not done if you're not communicating it to the public,
Speaker 5: because you have an equal responsibility to the public to
Speaker 5: tell them what you've done to showcase it and frankly,
Speaker 5: be proud of the work you did, because in this case,
Speaker 5: you know this is literally and you have a listener
Speaker 5: that has sent me a letter almost every time I
Speaker 5: have come on here about the sell plops the situation, saying,
Speaker 5: Julius will never solve this problem because for fifty plus
Speaker 5: years we haven't solved the problem. Scott then keep presenting
Speaker 5: like we solved it, but we haven't solved it. And
Speaker 5: this time they've put in a lot of time and effort,
Speaker 5: and and I've seen the work that they put into it.
Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go showcase it. Let's go show it
Speaker 5: off and brag about it. Let's let's let you see
Speaker 5: how much we fre treated the streets. Let's just let
Speaker 5: you see how we change the beat tooth that we're
Speaker 5: using to be able to make sure that we're actually
Speaker 5: aggresed up on it so that yesterday it doesn't go across.
Speaker 5: And all we're complaining about is the snowpile tractor wasn't
Speaker 5: on and working, and we they communicate about that. Right,
Speaker 5: that's actually a win, but it's not framed as a
Speaker 5: win because we're not doing a good job of talking
Speaker 5: about it and we have to continue to push the administration.
Speaker 5: We have to continue to push the city to have
Speaker 5: that expectation that there are a lot of cities that
Speaker 5: are doing a really great job on how they communicate
Speaker 5: their work and their success, which makes people feel more
Speaker 5: confident city, because right now we have to recognize that
Speaker 5: for decades we have failed in some of these areas,
Speaker 5: and now we have to earn your trust back. It's
Speaker 5: not just about saying like trust me on stuff walls, right,
Speaker 5: It's about saying trust me, and by the way, go
Speaker 5: look at yourself.
Speaker 2: And the thing is too you know, it's a young, vibrant,
Speaker 2: democratic led city and so you've got a lot of
Speaker 2: young people in this administration, and that seems like an
Speaker 2: easy thing to fix relative to you know, get a
Speaker 2: and maybe not an influencer per se, but someone who
Speaker 2: is knowledgeable in social media and have them putting videos together,
Speaker 2: put it out on social You know, how we're changing
Speaker 2: the beach juice recipe and all that. That seems relativelyazy,
Speaker 2: and I know other cities do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I would think so too. Again, I'm
Speaker 5: not a pr expert, so I don't want to be
Speaker 5: over here saying exactly how it is. But I agree
Speaker 5: and I'm just as frustrated that we don't do a
Speaker 5: better job at our victory left. And I hope the
Speaker 5: message that they hear here is we want to celebrate you.
Speaker 5: People want to talk about it. If people want to
Speaker 5: feel to talk about what's actually positively happened in the city,
Speaker 5: you get the absence of talking about the positive things
Speaker 5: that we do because we just expect you're going to
Speaker 5: pick it up. You're only going to talk about the
Speaker 5: negative things. And when the negative things happen, it feels
Speaker 5: like that's all that's happening in the City of Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: That's not the case. We have a lot of things
Speaker 5: that we should be very proud of, but we should
Speaker 5: be talking about them outside of the month. Leave us
Speaker 5: to an election, because we do some really great work
Speaker 5: at the City of Cincinnati. There are great people that
Speaker 5: are dedicating their lives to it. Let's talk about it,
Speaker 5: let's celebrate it, and we don't do a good job
Speaker 5: on that.
Speaker 4: You need to be more.
Speaker 2: We need to be more like Trump for God takes
Speaker 2: and break your arm, pant yourself on your back.
Speaker 5: That's that's one way to do it. I mean again,
Speaker 5: I don't even run my social media. So I'm really
Speaker 5: not wanting to criticize it too.
Speaker 4: Hard on this too much, you know, but there is.
Speaker 5: A point to say. You know, again, we literally had
Speaker 5: the snowfall yesterday. This is this is an easy way
Speaker 5: up to celebrate earlier it is. I'm glad to get
Speaker 5: the chance to talk about it, but I wish that
Speaker 5: we did more to celebrate.
Speaker 2: Wait, we had some calls in our newsroom about it,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't about the streetsman, It's like, why isn't
Speaker 2: the snowplot tracker working? And people were more mad about
Speaker 2: the lack of communication. That was because the streets were
Speaker 2: relatively okay. They weren't like, you know, people couldn't get
Speaker 2: up the cut in the hill, you know, the typical
Speaker 2: things we've seen and we get a lot of snow.
Speaker 2: It was more like, you guys, you touted this thing,
Speaker 2: you spent the money, you did the whole contest for it,
Speaker 2: and then it's a nothing burger when we actually had
Speaker 2: a little snow. I think people just wanted to see it.
Speaker 2: To your point, and on the communication thing, I'll point
Speaker 2: this out too, is and this is just another example
Speaker 2: of okay, so interim chief. Henny is the interim chief.
Speaker 2: We're going to get a new public information officer for CPD,
Speaker 2: which I think is needed. Uh, They're had full time
Speaker 2: squat officers, all watches there, the crime center hours have
Speaker 2: been extended, and all these other things that Henny's doing.
Speaker 2: But back to this, he's the interim chief or is
Speaker 2: he the actual chief at this point? I mean interims
Speaker 2: generally hold on and not don't do anything until someone
Speaker 2: else comes in and officially becomes chief and they put
Speaker 2: their stamp on it. If Terry Thigi is still the
Speaker 2: chief technically, why is he making all these changes again?
Speaker 5: Communication, Yes, I mean very much so. I think that's
Speaker 5: a unique situation. I figured he pop on my office
Speaker 5: yesterday talking about this one of your colleagues, Scott. But
Speaker 5: I do think that's a unique situation in the sense
Speaker 5: that interim Chief Heny has inherited a situation where we
Speaker 5: have a public safety crisis that we've been trying to
Speaker 5: get our hands wrapped around. I think the worst thing
Speaker 5: we could do is just put it in rom in
Speaker 5: there and not try what their ideas are. And he
Speaker 5: has great support from the police Department, so I have
Speaker 5: great confidence ideas he's putting forward or their suggestions for
Speaker 5: how they can solve this. But to your point, we
Speaker 5: do need to communicate that way. We need to have
Speaker 5: the press for a while, we need to have the
Speaker 5: introduction to the community, because as a minimum for the contract,
Speaker 5: the investigation is going to go to the end of
Speaker 5: this year, so he's going to be the inner in
Speaker 5: police chief for at least two months, and that is
Speaker 5: not an instant insignificant amount of time. They're very busy
Speaker 5: period in Cincinnati, Like, yeah, how do we do better
Speaker 5: at communicating and making sure people feel comfortable with him,
Speaker 5: whether that's just the short term or long term, and
Speaker 5: make sure they're comfortable with the decisions he's making. I
Speaker 5: do think you're spot on. A lot of the problems
Speaker 5: that we experienced this summer could have maybe been a
Speaker 5: little bit more mitigated if we communicated better. And I've
Speaker 5: said that that's why one of the reasons I come
Speaker 5: on here. Yeah, we just have to keep challenging it
Speaker 5: to say, hey, we can do better on that. Because
Speaker 5: we challenged the snow situations, we said we could do
Speaker 5: better on that, and look, they did better on that.
Speaker 5: And as I said to you last week, my job
Speaker 5: is that you guys never even know my name because
Speaker 5: things are going so smoothly and so yesterday, I think
Speaker 5: things went smoothly enough that we're complaining about communication. That's
Speaker 5: a great problem to have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess I get what you're
Speaker 2: saying is, hey, the plows aren't running and so, but
Speaker 2: if you're treating streets, you put a you know, the
Speaker 2: plows that had the assault on them. Because actually, for
Speaker 2: a minute it was they were on and we were
Speaker 2: watching it early on in the morning and said, okay,
Speaker 2: there's only two streets that I don't know. It was
Speaker 2: like seven o'clock that had been done, and then you
Speaker 2: switched it off, and I went, wow, wonder for that
Speaker 2: having problems with the system or I couldn't put it together. Now,
Speaker 2: what you're saying makes sense because if you had two
Speaker 2: trucks out there that were just assulting the trouble spots,
Speaker 2: that now makes sense in retrospect. But if I'm a taxpayer,
Speaker 2: if I'm a property or you know, citizen of Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: I look at it and go, what the hell are
Speaker 2: they doing here? Just like the breakdown and communication, we
Speaker 2: just need to I know, we've been talking about doing better,
Speaker 2: But it seems like with the police department getting a
Speaker 2: new public information officer, it seems like the city needs
Speaker 2: a little bit more that someone to handle the communications.
Speaker 2: And maybe it's a departmental thing. Maybe streets and bridges
Speaker 2: and the street department needs someone to handle all that's
Speaker 2: up on social media. Not that we want to spend
Speaker 2: more money, but communication's key, and it really undermines all
Speaker 2: the hard work that behind the scenes that the city's
Speaker 2: been doing stuff well well.
Speaker 5: I mean, we have a small but mighty team handling
Speaker 5: communications at the City of Cincinnati, and I don't think
Speaker 5: it s fie overlooked is that they are putting entriagy
Speaker 5: in a lot of situations constantly. And so I think, again, communications,
Speaker 5: you know, there's a strategy to it some of it.
Speaker 5: You know, you can choose one way and then you're
Speaker 5: always wrong and should go the other way. I think
Speaker 5: what we're talking about here is, you know, how do
Speaker 5: we get strategic about some of these victories and talk
Speaker 5: and talk that way. And part of that is, let's
Speaker 5: just you know, we just have to encourage them like that.
Speaker 5: The area that I think would be very helpful to
Speaker 5: be engaged in that doesn't mean that they're not doing
Speaker 5: a good job, but they are a small but mighty
Speaker 5: team here. To your point, we're not spending a lot
Speaker 5: of money on communications in the city. Maybe we need
Speaker 5: to beat that up. Maybe that is a conversation we
Speaker 5: need to have. But those who are working on it
Speaker 5: deserve the kudos for putting on a lot of fires
Speaker 5: constantly throughout the day. There's a lot of Scott clones
Speaker 5: in the city trying to get information from the city.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'll leave it at that. He is a
Speaker 2: council member of a real exs Seth Walsh on the
Speaker 2: Scott Sloane Show on seven hundred ww aka mister plow
Speaker 2: and mister Development. It was good to have you back.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad you I'm glad you won your seat.
Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate it, Scott, thank you too, late, all right.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thanks so much. Hopefully got some answers there.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I didn't drive in the city yesterday,
Speaker 2: but maybe you did. And how did they do? By
Speaker 2: the way, if you're a you're driving in the city
Speaker 2: yesterday compared to maybe years past. Granted to say, very
Speaker 2: small sample sizing, a little bit of snow, But how
Speaker 2: did it all work outside of the snowplow Tracker app
Speaker 2: five one, three, seven four nine, seven thousand eight or
Speaker 2: the Big one talk back on the iHeart Radio app.
Speaker 2: We'll do that next right after news on seven hundred
Speaker 2: WW Scott's floan, I'm his veterans Dave. Thanks to you
Speaker 2: if you served. I've just had Seth Walsh on Counselman
Speaker 2: talking about the snowplot. It was it's not controversial or
Speaker 2: anything like that, like here we go again. It's more like,
Speaker 2: you know, unforced errors. We went to this whole thing
Speaker 2: a year ago with the bridge fire and the lack
Speaker 2: of communication with traffic and transported surface you couldn't get
Speaker 2: people out there directing traffic for a little bit, to
Speaker 2: get people out of parking garages and surface lots so
Speaker 2: they could get home in less than two or three hours.
Speaker 2: And they just simply it was it was ignored because
Speaker 2: it was inconvenience and I don't know was it on
Speaker 2: their radar? Okay, you know, I think this story was
Speaker 2: that they were still lamenting the election loss by the way,
Speaker 2: which I don't doesn't really affect you in the immediate
Speaker 2: short terminal somewhat long term future, but short term virtue. Okay,
Speaker 2: we still got around the city and you know it
Speaker 2: was neglected after the bridge fire. Sure get that and
Speaker 2: you get learned from that. Okay, Well, then we have
Speaker 2: the snow event and the streets aren't plowed. There are
Speaker 2: people and even the city manager said, or maybe it
Speaker 2: was the individual in charge of plowing and said, listen,
Speaker 2: our plows are broken, we don't know enough of them,
Speaker 2: and some streets are not going to get plowed. Not
Speaker 2: a great message. And I absolutely have you made progress
Speaker 2: since then with people like Seth Walsh and others on
Speaker 2: council that have taken it upon themselves and make this
Speaker 2: their cause. So much so he used this during his
Speaker 2: re election campaign just a few weeks ago, that we're
Speaker 2: going to get this thing turned around, and they did.
Speaker 2: You know, I was reading some of this about during
Speaker 2: the break here, and some of the things he brought
Speaker 2: up are true. You know, we improved services, has got
Speaker 2: new managers and equipment, the fleets being fixed, are devoted
Speaker 2: money to it. We're taking it seriously. Some of the
Speaker 2: potholes filled a hell of a lot of potholes in
Speaker 2: the last year. Okay, awesome, you kind of need to
Speaker 2: do a victory lap and it congratulates your So I
Speaker 2: was joking about the Trump thing, but he's really good
Speaker 2: at that and taking credit for things that he doesn't
Speaker 2: even do. For that matter, or just as we'll get
Speaker 2: into a second ignoring the truth in reality. But I
Speaker 2: think you also have to do that. I mean, that
Speaker 2: makes him beloved by many people and supportive that he
Speaker 2: is getting the message out there. Whether you agree disagree
Speaker 2: with her. It's not true at all yet to be told.
Speaker 2: But you've got to self promote to some degree. And
Speaker 2: I think that's solely lacking here. It's just communication. We
Speaker 2: live in an era and now where everyone is a brand,
Speaker 2: everyone self promotes. That is the whole purpose now of
Speaker 2: social media. Everyone talks about how great everything is in
Speaker 2: their life, having the greatest experiences, and everything's going to
Speaker 2: be documented and nothing really bad is on. It's all
Speaker 2: the good stuff, which of course adds to our national
Speaker 2: handwringing and thinking we're well, everyone else is having a
Speaker 2: good time, why am I not? Well, it's because they're
Speaker 2: just putting the good stuff out there. That's all you're seeing.
Speaker 2: And the algorithms feed all this, and that's why a
Speaker 2: lot of people are miserable these days. But you can
Speaker 2: also use that to get the word out. How hard
Speaker 2: it would have been to just simply say, look, we
Speaker 2: only use this when the plows our blades are hitting
Speaker 2: the ground. If we get a dusting of snow, yeah
Speaker 2: we're going to treat the roads. Just say that, you know,
Speaker 2: because you hype this whole thing up. We're having this
Speaker 2: big contest and there's a prize, and if you come
Speaker 2: up with a way to get the word out to
Speaker 2: people that were on top of the street thing. I
Speaker 2: mean that. I thought it was a good initiative in crowdsourcing.
Speaker 2: Religion costs all that much. You got the companies to
Speaker 2: kick some money in and help out. Okay, great, awesome,
Speaker 2: you crowdsourced it and somebody came up with a solution
Speaker 2: to it. Yeah, that's that's our capitalistic system at best.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people out there that are
Speaker 2: vying for in this case, compensation which have been a
Speaker 2: new set of tires I think. And so somebody won
Speaker 2: the contest, they got the gift certificate and everybody wins. Awesome,
Speaker 2: And just you know, if it's if it only uses
Speaker 2: you're really gonna use it when the when the blades
Speaker 2: hit the ground, when there's enough snow to plow it.
Speaker 2: And you know, when people go to the website expecting
Speaker 2: to find information out, you should just simply put that
Speaker 2: at the top, going, Hey, by the way, we're treating
Speaker 2: the roads, but we're not tracking it. If there's a problem,
Speaker 2: you know, here's a click on this link or something
Speaker 2: along those lines, or you know, send us a message
Speaker 2: and we'll get after it, or just simply turn it
Speaker 2: on and let us see where the trucks are. Kind
Speaker 2: of cool technology. It seems seems kind of easy. But
Speaker 2: communication has been a huge issue for city Hall and
Speaker 2: this administration in particular. And when you when you do
Speaker 2: something well, you probably should celebrate that or at least
Speaker 2: get the word out, Hey, this is what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Just communicate it. Just communicate it. Not that hard, not
Speaker 2: that hard. And this is I think it's a good
Speaker 2: test for the winter months coming up, so we'll see
Speaker 2: how well all this stuff works when it all gets
Speaker 2: put together, actually gets turned on. Although I would think
Speaker 2: that this would be a kind of a nice little
Speaker 2: test tour, wouldn't it kind of a soft launch if
Speaker 2: you will. Nonetheless, that is behind us and again, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just a light dusting snow, nothing to get too
Speaker 2: worked up about. But plenty of people had reached out
Speaker 2: to us saying, do you know what the hell is
Speaker 2: going on with this website? And that's why I reached
Speaker 2: out to council Member Walsh this morning to talk about
Speaker 2: it on seven hundred WLW. What else is going on
Speaker 2: on this veteran's day? Yeah, I did have this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the President has been talking and you know, back to
Speaker 2: the soft congrigil congratulatory nature of this, and you know,
Speaker 2: I totally understand. He's, as I said, really really good
Speaker 2: at it. He was discussing the issue of affordabilities making
Speaker 2: the rounds after Democrats won the state and some local
Speaker 2: allowed number of local election did really well on Tuesday,
Speaker 2: as usually is the case these off primary elections and
Speaker 2: the like, you know, off off not a every four
Speaker 2: years we get a huge turnout and then the off
Speaker 2: years not so much. Campaign on the cost of living, right,
Speaker 2: the cost of it. This is all about affordability. The
Speaker 2: referendum for this cycle is going to be affordability. And
Speaker 2: he said that's not true. As a con job, and
Speaker 2: I've been really successful in lowing prices, and you know,
Speaker 2: you could have just said, hey, listen, we were much
Speaker 2: much worse under Biden. We had a forty year high
Speaker 2: under Biden, it was like over nine percent inflation. That
Speaker 2: number has come down since I've taken office. I actually
Speaker 2: started a little bit before he took office, just maybe
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks before. But still you could go, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: the election, I want election. Great, it's shifting other way.
Speaker 2: It's going to take a while. You could just believe
Speaker 2: that that. But you know, coming out and saying that
Speaker 2: prices have fallen since he's coming back in office is
Speaker 2: not really helpful. It's, you know, saying everything is down,
Speaker 2: everything's way down. The prices under the Trump administration done substantially.
Speaker 2: Inflation is almost non existent. You know, I think you
Speaker 2: can do that. I think it's a good strategy if
Speaker 2: the president is dealing with intangibles like tray or something
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, Like, I don't really know how the
Speaker 2: tariffs are work in. I know it's adding to the
Speaker 2: cost right now, but you can talk about getting money back,
Speaker 2: some two hundred billion dollars back in taxes, and that's
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court's debating that right now. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact. But the thing is this is measurable. It's
Speaker 2: measured by you. If you're going to the store and
Speaker 2: you're paying more, you don't feel these alleged cuts, then
Speaker 2: it's more. I don't know what. I don't think he's
Speaker 2: looking at any numbers. I just think he's as figures.
Speaker 2: It's like true social If he says it, people will
Speaker 2: believe it. I'm sure there are plenty of people to
Speaker 2: believe it. And there's plenty of things that don't get
Speaker 2: reported because he's Trump one hundred percent on that. But
Speaker 2: in this case, it's measurable by you, and this is
Speaker 2: just a battle that I you know, you could be
Speaker 2: the biggest MAGA Trump support in the world. To look
Speaker 2: at it going, Yeah, I don't think the prices are
Speaker 2: coming down. You know, if prices are coming down, you
Speaker 2: know how much money you have in your budget. Inflation
Speaker 2: has accelerated the three percent year over year inflation has
Speaker 2: increased for about what five consecutive months now, and prices
Speaker 2: where now one point seven percent higher is at Brank
Speaker 2: at the bank. But you know when you hear stories
Speaker 2: about people who can't afford their mortgage because property taxes
Speaker 2: are going up around us. You know, the margins are
Speaker 2: pretty thin, so one and a half percent it's something.
Speaker 2: It's something. And if they're higher this year than they
Speaker 2: were in January, three percent higher than they were a
Speaker 2: year ago, then yeah, we're feeling that grocery prices are up.
Speaker 2: And it's not just beef. It's a number of important products.
Speaker 2: Grocery product get more expensive. I look at it and go, okay, well,
Speaker 2: what's P and G doing. They're in Kroger. They're laying
Speaker 2: people off. Why people are buying less or people are
Speaker 2: buying tide but they're buying less of it and somehow
Speaker 2: really packing that washer and get there. I'm going to
Speaker 2: make sure that sucker is full to the top before
Speaker 2: I put a tide pod in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. And I remember when
Speaker 2: Biden did this, and I poked holes in the theory
Speaker 2: that when Biden was saying, okay, remember the Congression Democrats
Speaker 2: we're screaming about as prices went up, that there's a
Speaker 2: collusion of fixed prices here. This is about food producers
Speaker 2: and they're gouging. Remember the whole gouging thing and shrink
Speaker 2: flesh and gouging. We're gouging we're gouging. People are getting gouged.
Speaker 2: I'm hearing so much of that anymore. Why is that, Well,
Speaker 2: because it wasn't necessarily true. I mean, shrink flation has
Speaker 2: been around certainly. If you look at that little, I
Speaker 2: don't know bag of Doritos, for example, they just decreased
Speaker 2: the product and put a little more air in it.
Speaker 2: But they've been doing that since like the beginning of
Speaker 2: packaged foods. That's nothing new. Look at all, the air
Speaker 2: we get it, while the air has to do more
Speaker 2: settling and at least having a few chips that aren't
Speaker 2: completely smashed at the bottom of bag. That's more about
Speaker 2: packaging and protecting the product. That's like, you know, the
Speaker 2: air cushions the chips. So, yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: air in the bag for a reason. You've filled all
Speaker 2: the way to the top. And actually I've talked to
Speaker 2: extras before about this, said, yeah, if you filled it
Speaker 2: all the way up to the brim and we tried
Speaker 2: to seal it, basically by the time you got it,
Speaker 2: it would be a bag of dust. It's just works.
Speaker 2: They've tried. But there's a reason why there's so much
Speaker 2: air in a bag of chips and yeah, some of
Speaker 2: these packages. Okay, it's went from three point eight to
Speaker 2: three point six ounces and my little tiny self serving
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's like there's like four. It's like the airlines.
Speaker 2: You know, you go in tow youreline, get a bag
Speaker 2: of you would to like a bag of pretzel. Sure,
Speaker 2: and there are two like mini pretzels in there. Why
Speaker 2: even put this in the package? You just like throw it.
Speaker 2: Feed me like I'm a I don't like a carp
Speaker 2: at King's Island. You get the little put the twenty
Speaker 2: five cents and the fifty cents and get a handful
Speaker 2: of food. Just stick my mouth open like a carp
Speaker 2: feed me in that little river. But yeah, I get.
Speaker 2: You know, shrinkflation, it is a thing. But it's not
Speaker 2: like some conspiracy. They don't want to raise prices because
Speaker 2: you'll buy less of it, so we keep the price
Speaker 2: the same and give you less. That's how we get
Speaker 2: around it. It's really the same thing. You're not paying
Speaker 2: more for less, you're paying the same plan for less.
Speaker 2: Makes sense. But the test of this whole thing for
Speaker 2: you and your personal budget. Now, some people don't feel
Speaker 2: it at all. I mean, hell, when I go in
Speaker 2: and I think I'm doing. Okay. I go into Costco
Speaker 2: of all places, and I look at ground beef and go, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm passing on. I'm not buying. I'm not spend that
Speaker 2: kind of money with some ground beef, man, And that's
Speaker 2: Costco price is really really good, like at the regular
Speaker 2: grocery store. It's like I'm doing. I'll be honest with them,
Speaker 2: cooking more chicken thighs like chicken brass wings are crazy
Speaker 2: occasionally looks like a treat now, and it should be
Speaker 2: anyway at my age, Let's face it, I can't can't
Speaker 2: crush wings and pizza and burgers like I used to,
Speaker 2: nor should I. So yeah, chicken thies are pretty damn good.
Speaker 2: They're like bigger chicken wings, and they're a lot cheaper,
Speaker 2: so you buy some of that stuff instead. But you know,
Speaker 2: the test for me would be, and for you would be,
Speaker 2: instead of wearing your political hat and agreeing with everything
Speaker 2: going all right, if all the prices are down and
Speaker 2: stuff like you claim, then why do you want to
Speaker 2: give us all two thousand dollars in relief from the tariffs,
Speaker 2: which to me is silly because it's a we just
Speaker 2: keep borrowing more money to give it away. It's more
Speaker 2: it's subsidy in a different form. You always railed them
Speaker 2: to Democrats and subsidy, and you know, look at healthcare.
Speaker 2: I had Greg Landsman on the first start. If you
Speaker 2: miss that's in the podcast. I'll follow the show here
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WWVD iHeartRadio app and you can also
Speaker 2: stream the show where we are too as well, but
Speaker 2: download the podcast. So first I had a good discussion,
Speaker 2: and you know the knock I have with him and
Speaker 2: Democrats is well, it's all about band aids. It's all
Speaker 2: about subsidy. This whole shutdown was about them going okay,
Speaker 2: well we need to subsidize people more for their healthcare.
Speaker 2: It's too expensive affordable care. It's not affordable if you're
Speaker 2: giving people subsidies. Affordability means you're reducing the cost, getting
Speaker 2: rid of all the red tape, all the bs, all
Speaker 2: the nonsense that drive costs up. Okay, you don't affordability
Speaker 2: isn't taking other money and moving it to give it
Speaker 2: to people who can't afford healthcare. And I'm not saying,
Speaker 2: you know, we should just ignore those people. That's a
Speaker 2: tragedy in out of itself. If all these things expire
Speaker 2: where you canna needt your health care. That's a problem
Speaker 2: for twenty two million Americans. We know these are the rules.
Speaker 2: Both Democrats and Republicans came up with and set this
Speaker 2: whole thing up and have been doing it for a
Speaker 2: long time. I don't think it's entirely fair to pull
Speaker 2: the carpet on our fee bill. Go okay, well you're
Speaker 2: it's three hundred percent of good luck with that. How
Speaker 2: about just doing it temporarily and saying, okay, we've got
Speaker 2: I don't know, two years to come up with a
Speaker 2: solution of health care, you know, whether it's a private
Speaker 2: sector involvement or getting rid of all the subsidy and insurance.
Speaker 2: And I'm the simplest thing to me, I've said a
Speaker 2: million times, is just getting rid of it. To your
Speaker 2: employer can no longer offer healthcare. We are literally hamstering
Speaker 2: this gig economy where so many people work so many
Speaker 2: different jobs, and none of those jobs offer healthcare. You know,
Speaker 2: if you're out in the cry is and I hear
Speaker 2: this from older people is like, well just go get
Speaker 2: a job. Well, okay, but bigger companies can offer healthcare benefits.
Speaker 2: The engine that drives America is business, but in particular
Speaker 2: small business, like eight out of ten businesses or small businesses,
Speaker 2: fewer and fewer in fear of those small businesses can
Speaker 2: afford to give health care to their employees. And we also,
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, live in a gig economy where people
Speaker 2: are doing different hustles, right you, maybe it's door dash
Speaker 2: or maybe you're delivering, you're doing this, I got a
Speaker 2: bunch of part time jobs and okay, great, and you
Speaker 2: know what, that's awesome, But they don't offer health care.
Speaker 2: So buying your healthcare on the open market seems to
Speaker 2: be the way to go. And if we have subsidized healthcare,
Speaker 2: that's bad because it's costing way more than it should.
Speaker 2: Where we're boring that money, it seems to me the
Speaker 2: easiest thing to do would be to simply say, Okay,
Speaker 2: if you're in this business, no more healthcare. You got
Speaker 2: to buy it in the free market, like you do
Speaker 2: with all the other insurance you have in your life.
Speaker 2: And the savings we reap from all the compliance and
Speaker 2: code all that nonsense can go to help those people
Speaker 2: who fall between the cracks, and you still have money
Speaker 2: left over to throw to the deficit. It's like an
Speaker 2: easy it's a slam dunk. But Democrats say, oh my god,
Speaker 2: all these people are getting thrown off by bad private
Speaker 2: business and the like, and it's just that's why're not
Speaker 2: going to get anything done with this. But the idea
Speaker 2: is here. We give everybody two thousand dollars in relief checks.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought the prices were lower than they
Speaker 2: were when Biden was office. You you really can't have
Speaker 2: it both ways, but that's him. He just throw stuff
Speaker 2: at the wall. See what sticks. At some point, I
Speaker 2: think you look at it and go, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe you're doing some good stuff here and there, And okay,
Speaker 2: I'll buy the terrafsh for a little bit longer I can.
Speaker 2: I can stand the pain for a while. We'll see
Speaker 2: if we can get jobs back here and make everybody
Speaker 2: rich again, as promised on the campaign trail. But right
Speaker 2: now I know that it costs a hell of a
Speaker 2: lot to go to the grocery store. It costs a
Speaker 2: hell of a lot. Coming up on the show on
Speaker 2: seven hundred WW just a few minutes here it is
Speaker 2: Veterans Day. We'll talk to our buddy Steeve Baalsco from
Speaker 2: Claremont County Veterans Services on this day where a lot
Speaker 2: of people to flying the flag because you know Veterans
Speaker 2: Day and all that. I saw a lot of flags
Speaker 2: actually driving this weekend. Seen a lot of people just
Speaker 2: having flags in the car, which is cool. Normally it
Speaker 2: was like around election Day or you know fourth of
Speaker 2: July you see somebody to pick up truck. But I
Speaker 2: saw a lot of at least a handful of cars
Speaker 2: this weekend with flags on, which I think is awesome
Speaker 2: and a way to show respect not only our country
Speaker 2: but to those veterans who serve. So we'll get more
Speaker 2: than that with Steve in just a few minutes here
Speaker 2: on seven hundred. But Adan Schaeffer is in at eleven
Speaker 2: thirty five all Worth Financial. It is simply money to
Speaker 2: show heres at six o'clock on our sister station fifty
Speaker 2: five care see but the hull Worth Financial. He's here
Speaker 2: on Tuesday mornings talking about one of the things I'm
Speaker 2: going to get into is the fifty year mortgage with
Speaker 2: him in addition to the government shutdown allegedly ending and
Speaker 2: what that means, but also the fifty year mortgage proposal.
Speaker 2: And then speaking of the President, he offered this up.
Speaker 2: I don't have the make of that, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of leaning towards I mean, it doesn't make if you're
Speaker 2: if you can't afford a mortgage payment. Now it does
Speaker 2: get you own a house, which is a good thing.
Speaker 2: But I don't know at a fifty year rate, how
Speaker 2: do you build equity, because that's the key, you know,
Speaker 2: is building equities. Like I make my payments. I got
Speaker 2: my principle and interest. Okay, here's my interest payment, which
Speaker 2: is going to be huge, the principal very little, and
Speaker 2: even after five or ten years, how much equity will
Speaker 2: have in the house, You're not talking all that much.
Speaker 2: At some point you're gonna want to borrow on that
Speaker 2: equity or user to improve the house or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: I just it seems like you're paying yourself in a corner.
Speaker 2: But in this age when credit card debt is a
Speaker 2: super high right down and is continue to go up. Hell,
Speaker 2: people are buying fast food on layaway for crying out lack.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a good thing or not.
Speaker 2: It gets more people in houses, it's good, it's good
Speaker 2: for you know, my wife's business for sure, being a
Speaker 2: real estate broker. But I wonder you know, with that debt,
Speaker 2: and you look at it's like how much am I
Speaker 2: paying an interest? How much am I haying? In principle?
Speaker 2: And that interest is going to kill the principal is
Speaker 2: the one that works for you, right, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: it's interesting. I don't know why you would also go
Speaker 2: from you know, you get a fifteen or thirty year mortgage.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I went from thirty to fifty.
Speaker 2: Maybe a forty year mortgage, fifty year mortgage, of course
Speaker 2: I don't know older. I may refinance and get a
Speaker 2: fifty year mortgage out because I know I'm not going
Speaker 2: to live long enough to pay that son of a
Speaker 2: gun back. It's a U problem, not a ME problem,
Speaker 2: and not that long from now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We'll get a time out and we got news on
Speaker 2: the way in just a few minutes, and when we return,
Speaker 2: we'll get into Veterans Day twenty twenty five, and then
Speaker 2: Andy Shaeffer here on the Scott Slan Show, I'm the
Speaker 2: Home the Best Bengals cover back at it after the
Speaker 2: week off and Joe Burrow by the way ready to
Speaker 2: go right around Thanksgiving? Is that a good idea or
Speaker 2: bad idea. I'm not sure. It depends on these next
Speaker 2: couple of games. We'll see how it goes. I would
Speaker 2: say that if it doesn't look like you're going to
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, you bring them back, You're risk wrecking
Speaker 2: next season as well. I'm kind of leaning on the
Speaker 2: side of being conservative. But you wonder how much juice
Speaker 2: Joe has and he says he wants to play. Is
Speaker 2: any going to tell him no? That's the big question.
Speaker 2: Seven hundred WDW, Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I don't want to American.
Speaker 2: It's on seven hundred WLW on this eleventh day of
Speaker 2: November twenty twenty five. It is Veterans Day. Thank you
Speaker 2: to all who have served this wonderful country of ours.
Speaker 2: And granted there's a lot of people think it's not
Speaker 2: so wonderful anymore, but still the greatest experiment in the
Speaker 2: history of man coin I believe the United States of America.
Speaker 2: Can we do better? Hell yeah, we can always do better,
Speaker 2: continuous improvement, correct And on this Veterans' Day, we should
Speaker 2: all be flying the flag in front of our homes
Speaker 2: or whatever it might be. You'll see a lot of
Speaker 2: flags out because it is Veterans Day and this opportunity
Speaker 2: to thank a veteran, and I would thank that. Steve
Speaker 2: Balco from Claimout County Veteran Services on the show this
Speaker 2: morning on seven hundred WW. If you are flying that
Speaker 2: flag or whatever, you fly that flag often, I see it, Steve,
Speaker 2: and I look at it and see like an image
Speaker 2: of an individual. I saw Charlie Kirk flag the other
Speaker 2: day of all things. And you know, if you're allegedly
Speaker 2: patriotic enough to fly the American flag, you should also
Speaker 2: then know that you can't do that. You are desecrating
Speaker 2: the flag, that you can't do.
Speaker 7: Those things to it, especially within the boundaries of these
Speaker 7: continental United States.
Speaker 2: Correct, correct, yeah, you're not. You can't alter the flag.
Speaker 2: It's if someone did that with a Bible. What do
Speaker 2: you think the reaction would.
Speaker 7: Be, Oh yeah, yeah, we'd be out with pitchforks and
Speaker 7: torches and right yeah right.
Speaker 2: So well we saw the Trump Bible and people lost
Speaker 2: their minds over that. Right with this, I don't know,
Speaker 2: he put his stuff in. It's like, okay, strying to
Speaker 2: make money off that, like the shoes. But people who
Speaker 2: are fought for this country even and will stand out
Speaker 2: there with the flag that's altered it drives me crazy.
Speaker 7: It does. It does. Where's the due diligence and respect
Speaker 7: to that which.
Speaker 2: You're not a patriot, You're a self absorbed idiot if
Speaker 2: you're doing that right.
Speaker 7: And to realize the power of the United States flag
Speaker 7: in a global economy, every nation knows what the United
Speaker 7: States flag is, Yes, they can identify it. Yeah, they
Speaker 7: all want to become like Americans. As I used to
Speaker 7: tell my Marine Sloany when we will go overseas, this
Speaker 7: is your uh, your Dorothy tour, because Dorothy said it
Speaker 7: right when she clicked her heels and said, there's no
Speaker 7: place like that's a fact.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. And as I get older, you know,
Speaker 2: we travel a lot. When when I fly back to CBG,
Speaker 2: it really puts a lump in my throat to see,
Speaker 2: welcome to the United States of America. Right, How cool
Speaker 2: is that it is? It's awesome. I was usually an
Speaker 2: event Folds of Honor, which I know you're familiar with,
Speaker 2: and we do a golf outing up at TPC in
Speaker 2: Mainfield and they do a great job of this thing.
Speaker 2: We had a flying World War on airplanes we had
Speaker 2: you know, is just come into the whole thing and
Speaker 2: We had service members active and retired that were there
Speaker 2: that were honored, and it raises money for Folds of
Speaker 2: Honor with Budweiser. And it's a wonderful event. And the
Speaker 2: coolest thing is too, is that we forgot about this
Speaker 2: is what when in folded American flag. Thirteen folds in
Speaker 2: that flag what each fold signifies. And they had whole
Speaker 2: display on that out there, and I had to write
Speaker 2: it down because I'd forgotten myself. But the first fold
Speaker 2: is life itself. Second fold is eternal life. Then veterans
Speaker 2: trusting in God, the difference between right and wrong, which
Speaker 2: we miss in this country. God and country. Tribute to
Speaker 2: our armed forces. The eighth fold honors mothers. The ninth
Speaker 2: ist were womanhood. The tenth folders for fathers who's given
Speaker 2: their sons and daughters to military service in their lives.
Speaker 2: The eleventh foldest were Hebrew Citizens for Jewish citizens. And
Speaker 2: the twelfth fold in that flag is for the fatherest
Speaker 2: on the Holy Spirit, and the thirteenth is in God
Speaker 2: we trust. As you present the flag to someone, all
Speaker 2: you see are the stars correct, representing of course the
Speaker 2: states verse thirteen original states, and so even the fold
Speaker 2: of a flag is significant.
Speaker 7: It's significant and even when prison emptying the flag to
Speaker 7: the deceased family, the veterans deceased family, it is presented
Speaker 7: on behalf of the President of the United States, a
Speaker 7: grateful nation, and by the secretary of the branch of
Speaker 7: service that they serve from. It's delivered kneeling to the family. Yeah, Sony,
Speaker 7: I've done over two hundred and forty five funerals for Marines.
Speaker 2: I've done a lot.
Speaker 7: I can't tell you the amount of mothers that will
Speaker 7: hold your hand because you are the symbol of her
Speaker 7: loved one and they don't want to give it up
Speaker 7: if they want to stay in that moment. It's moving now.
Speaker 2: If you see any of these ceremonies, it gets emotional
Speaker 2: coming even get emotional right now. And we're talking about
Speaker 2: the flag and what it means because today is Veterans Day.
Speaker 2: The thing to me, Steve, is it pisses me off
Speaker 2: to know if I see someone mistreating or burning the
Speaker 2: flag right, dragging the flag on the ground or whatever.
Speaker 2: But at the same time as anger's I might be
Speaker 2: people disagree with me all the time and that's fine,
Speaker 2: which is another constitutional right. Is that what other country
Speaker 2: in the world. Are you allowed to desecrate the flag
Speaker 2: because it's a symbol and your freedoms allow you to
Speaker 2: desecrate that flag. It's the most paradoxical thing ever, is
Speaker 2: it is? Do you defend that as a veteran?
Speaker 7: I don't defend that as a veteran.
Speaker 2: No, I meant the idea that concept, right, just like
Speaker 2: you're allowed to do that, you shouldn't do that. But
Speaker 2: you're like, it's the paradox of American, of our country.
Speaker 2: We don't take ourselves seriously. It is.
Speaker 7: It is, but there are many who have shed their
Speaker 7: blood I know, so that to be therefore give it
Speaker 7: the respect it's due on the cost of lives spent for.
Speaker 2: It, Which makes sense because we have holidays like Memorial
Speaker 2: Day and Fourth of July that celebrate these things, and
Speaker 2: we turn into drunken idiots playing country music on boomboxes
Speaker 2: and have swimming pools and a three day weekend and
Speaker 2: all that, and we forget that the Memorial Day is
Speaker 2: the one to me is it's a solemn holiday, and
Speaker 2: we've turned that into now sales and the celebration going.
Speaker 2: People died for this holiday.
Speaker 7: When you go to Israel on their Memorial Day, they
Speaker 7: sound sirens and the whole nation stops, stands at attention
Speaker 7: and pays respect. Can you imagine the United States of
Speaker 7: America coming to a complete stop to pay respect a
Speaker 7: Memorial Day?
Speaker 2: No, because that's who we are. And that's the paradox, right.
Speaker 2: We find it's a certain to like, Hey, I'm having
Speaker 2: a car and I'm going to buy a new car
Speaker 2: right now because they're having a sale because people died
Speaker 2: in service of our country. What are we doing right?
Speaker 7: Right? Everything's turned into a capitalist which capitalism is great.
Speaker 2: However, when you start pushing the margins, you sit and
Speaker 2: think about it, it's like you scratch your go what
Speaker 2: are we doing here? But that is the beauty of America.
Speaker 2: I think that that, in essence is why people want
Speaker 2: to come here is because of those freedoms that very
Speaker 2: few around the world enjoy. And you can talk about
Speaker 2: developed nations in Europe and all that, but by and large,
Speaker 2: arrest of the world does not live like this.
Speaker 7: No, No, absolutely not, absolutely not. There is no place
Speaker 7: like home.
Speaker 2: The Taliban, by the way, just banned chess. Did you
Speaker 2: see that? No chess because it's immoral, Like what.
Speaker 7: Because you're taking over kings. The queen has a prenominant place.
Speaker 2: I suppose it is. Yeah, right, something.
Speaker 7: Interesting for you whose father served in the US Navy, correct, yes,
Speaker 7: do you know that there is a time where one
Speaker 7: flag has the privilege of flying above the United States flag?
Speaker 2: I knew this and I forgot it. What does it
Speaker 2: remind me?
Speaker 7: During worship services aboard a naval they'll fly the Christian
Speaker 7: flag above the national answer?
Speaker 2: That's right, yep, yeah, that's the only other time. That's
Speaker 2: the only the time it flies above correct, Godden Country
Speaker 2: in that order. That's right, right, yeah. Steve also from
Speaker 2: Claimont Tenny veteran services on this VET Trend's Day twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, and we're talking about the symbol of that
Speaker 2: service and what they fought for, and that would be
Speaker 2: the flag veterans, and you'll see a lot of today
Speaker 2: is the American flag, and we're talking about what that
Speaker 2: means as Americans, because I want to forget we see
Speaker 2: the American flag. It's become ubiquitous on everything, uniforms, you know,
Speaker 2: football players, where it's on a helmet. In times when crisis,
Speaker 2: when we feel the wolves at the door, we will
Speaker 2: all start wearing the American Flag nine eleven comes to mind,
Speaker 2: and like, and I think it's just so common that
Speaker 2: we've kind of forgotten the symbolism and really what it means.
Speaker 7: The vast, grandiose history of our United States flag, from
Speaker 7: the very hymn honoring the flag to what it represents
Speaker 7: flying foreign shores, bringing democracy to foreign countries that were
Speaker 7: locked down in different molds of politics. But yet there
Speaker 7: is something powerful when when you have four pillars of
Speaker 7: power for a country to see information, economic, and military.
Speaker 7: When the United States flag is flown off the shores
Speaker 7: or onshore a country, it brings the very persona of
Speaker 7: strength of the United States to those shores. It is
Speaker 7: actually a strength we have going forward to calm down
Speaker 7: enemies and to put a piece into a chaotic situation.
Speaker 7: Or it's kind of like your dad. You don't want
Speaker 7: dad coming home.
Speaker 2: Right right?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, Yeah, I get it. The other thing, too,
Speaker 2: is is a tattered flag, and I'm sure to think
Speaker 2: people will probably just take the flag and throw in
Speaker 2: the garbage, which is not You're not supposed.
Speaker 1: To do that.
Speaker 2: No, please don't, no, no, no, how do you properly
Speaker 2: get rid of a flag? So it's tattered, by the way,
Speaker 2: And when do we know it tattered? Means what exactly
Speaker 2: I mean? When when do we know it's time to
Speaker 2: retire fleg? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Absolutely, So as you look at a flag, it should
Speaker 7: be a whole seem to seem still tight when it's
Speaker 7: starts to tear, when it starts to fray, or frequently
Speaker 7: fly in adverse weather and it's whipping in the wind.
Speaker 7: And as she starts to tear or weather or even
Speaker 7: become faded in an excessive amount. Is when you retire
Speaker 7: the flag, put up a new one. But then there's
Speaker 7: a way to dispose of the flag. And in that
Speaker 7: retirement ceremony, the description by law is that in a
Speaker 7: discreete service.
Speaker 4: And what was that?
Speaker 7: So in a private assembly, not in a grandiose situation
Speaker 7: in the four corners of your mall. It is in
Speaker 7: your backyard, in a small, little burned barrel. You burn
Speaker 7: the flag so it can't be used for adverse methods. Now,
Speaker 7: if you're like, well, I feel kind of guilty of
Speaker 7: doing that. The boy Scouts are taught a very ceremoniously
Speaker 7: procedure on how you retire a flag this way, and
Speaker 7: so call your local boy Scouts troops. I've got a
Speaker 7: flag I need to retire. Claremont County. We have a
Speaker 7: flag retirement box. You can put it in there, and
Speaker 7: we have organization veteran service organizations, Boy Scouts, there's quite
Speaker 7: a few that will take the tattered flags, and they're
Speaker 7: teaching the youth as well as adults. This is how
Speaker 7: you respect the flag at its end of life.
Speaker 2: I've done that before. Flags at my house. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: I know. You know, you fold the flag and a
Speaker 2: big ceremony, burn it right.
Speaker 7: And it's not a grandiose let's know how fireworks. Let's hey,
Speaker 7: look at me.
Speaker 2: Let's yeah, yeah, exactly, it's a whole it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2: Steve on there too. Okay, we flow the flag where
Speaker 2: we know how to dispose the flag. What else do
Speaker 2: people generally this when it comes to flag etiquette.
Speaker 7: Oh, you know in this nation of ours that is
Speaker 7: sports addicted. We start out every sport activity with the
Speaker 7: national anthem, and the proper etiquette for the national anthem
Speaker 7: is to get on your feet one if you can.
Speaker 7: If you are handicapped, if you were out and you
Speaker 7: don't have the strength, that's fine, follow step two.
Speaker 2: Step two is.
Speaker 7: There is a way to honor and salute the flag.
Speaker 7: Now for the average citizen, it is putting your hand
Speaker 7: over your heart, right hand over your left chest. That's
Speaker 7: how we salute the flag in civilian attire or by civilians. Men,
Speaker 7: we take off our hats out of respect. And then
Speaker 7: sometimes you're holding that hat with your right hand. That's fine.
Speaker 7: The hand still goes over the heart all while the
Speaker 7: national anthem is being sung. For ladies, it's a right
Speaker 7: hand over the heart. For those that are prior military, obviously,
Speaker 7: if they're in uniform, they're saluting the flag. Some military
Speaker 7: organizations Sloani, actually salute indoors. The Marines do not unless
Speaker 7: we're wearing what we call our cover. It's our hat, yes,
Speaker 7: which means we're under arms, we're carrying a weapon, or
Speaker 7: we're marching with the sword right, So we are under arms.
Speaker 7: We are therefore wearing our cover, and we will render
Speaker 7: a salute indoors. Other than that, there is no salution
Speaker 7: by Marines indoors. So we if you see us, we'll
Speaker 7: put our hand over our heart, whether in uniform, indoors
Speaker 7: or outside in civilian attire. Even as a retired marine myself,
Speaker 7: i salute with my right hand over my heart. I
Speaker 7: don't salute to my forehead as an average.
Speaker 2: Because you're not in uniform police officers, firefighters, you're in
Speaker 2: uniform undercover, then you salute.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: I've seen and i've heard this debate too, that the
Speaker 2: proper etiquette is I don't know if it's for a guy,
Speaker 2: men and women, but you know, standing at attention and
Speaker 2: putting your hands behind your back and like in a
Speaker 2: parade rest kind of Well, that's what you call it.
Speaker 2: I've seen that too before, and I've heard there's a
Speaker 2: debate about which one is correct. Now, typically it's hand
Speaker 2: over the heart. I think that's the way to get
Speaker 2: a heart, which is a salute.
Speaker 7: Standing at parade rest or at ease, which would be
Speaker 7: hands behind your back when you shuffle around, is really
Speaker 7: at a reduced comfort stance. Standing at attention is your
Speaker 7: maximum stance of respect. So to say we would stand
Speaker 7: at ease or hands behind the back or at parade
Speaker 7: rest is to mean nothing significant is occurring, not being
Speaker 7: given or rest.
Speaker 2: Because you've seen it both ways, and the correct way
Speaker 2: is handled with heart correct for citizens, got it? And
Speaker 2: just I mean, these are people are listening to go.
Speaker 2: You know, so, what's okay, I'm standing them at attention.
Speaker 2: I get that. But yeah, the whole point of this
Speaker 2: is to just reflect on the sacrifices made for what
Speaker 2: that flag means, and people like yourself will put their
Speaker 2: life on the line, in those who've given their life
Speaker 2: in defense of this country. It's a very small thing,
Speaker 2: but it's important. It's huge.
Speaker 7: It's the democracy of this nation is built around that flag.
Speaker 7: She flies for liberty, justice and freedom, for all our constitution.
Speaker 7: The whole thing is pinned together. She is our lynchpin
Speaker 7: going forward. It is the visual we see who identifies
Speaker 7: that which we are or should be.
Speaker 2: Do you think the reason why we're not making Canada
Speaker 2: fifty first state of that screw up the whole rhythm
Speaker 2: of the fifty stars? Do we really want? Do we
Speaker 2: really want a fifty first day? I mean it could
Speaker 2: be anything Puerto Rico, like it's fifty stars thirteen start.
Speaker 8: There's a balance, there is a metrical yah pa, right
Speaker 8: now what extra Star Wars you put it? Well, now
Speaker 8: Star Wars extra Star War did you put It's too
Speaker 8: confusing anyway, Steve Balso, thanks again for coming in and
Speaker 8: thanks for your service and all veterans listening on this
Speaker 8: Veterans Day.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thanks, thanks for your service. Appreciate it. Scott's Loan
Speaker 2: Show continues after this on seven hundred W Time to talk.
Speaker 9: About money, how to make it, how to keep it,
Speaker 9: and how to keep others off your stash. This is
Speaker 9: all Worth Advice with Andy Shaeffer. The big question is
Speaker 9: it over? Is a shutdown over? And what the hell
Speaker 9: does it all mean? What did we accomplish?
Speaker 2: If anything? Andy Shaeffer from all Worth Financial, How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Scott you today.
Speaker 2: Everything is good. So it looks like we got a
Speaker 2: deal together. Maybe by the end of the week, maybe
Speaker 2: this time tomorrow or Thursday, or maybe Friday. Government reopens,
Speaker 2: the agencies get funded, people get paid, and then maybe
Speaker 2: in about thirty days everything goes back to normal apparently.
Speaker 2: So from the market perspective, what's changed.
Speaker 10: Well, I think it just helps investors gain a little
Speaker 10: bit more confidence as far as economic data is concerned.
Speaker 10: And there were hundreds of thousands of federal workers that
Speaker 10: were furloughed that weren't receiving incomes. Obviously, travel through throughout
Speaker 10: the United States was made a lot of investors nervous
Speaker 10: and also people that are looking to go home to
Speaker 10: visit their families over Thanksgiving. But in addition to that,
Speaker 10: you know, the ability to travel and navigate is important
Speaker 10: for business as well. And so I think the fact
Speaker 10: that the House has I'm sorry, the Senate has actually
Speaker 10: you know, come to a resolution on that with a
Speaker 10: sixty forty vote that gets passed the House.
Speaker 4: Now that vote will.
Speaker 10: Happen tomorrow, that's likely to be passed, and so you
Speaker 10: know that that helped a lot with the markets. Yesterday,
Speaker 10: we saw the three main in DECKX gained. Technology stocks
Speaker 10: led the way after last week's slide. The NASDAC gained
Speaker 10: about two point three percent and that's its biggest one
Speaker 10: day rally since the two point five percent that we
Speaker 10: had in late May. We did, you know, the Magnificent
Speaker 10: seven companies, Alphabet and Vidia, Tesla, Gold, futures and treasuries
Speaker 10: all rose. And so there is some optimism out there
Speaker 10: with investors, uh, you know, based on the government reopening.
Speaker 2: And the data will start to flow once again. How
Speaker 2: how big one it seems like we really I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not official government data, I suppose, but it seems
Speaker 2: like we got to have indicator from the private market
Speaker 2: to kind of know what the economy is doing. How
Speaker 2: important is that stuff?
Speaker 4: No, it's big.
Speaker 10: You know, we can get some things from the private market,
Speaker 10: the Institute for Supply Management for instance. You know, we're
Speaker 10: able to get that data and that kind of gives
Speaker 10: us a little bit of a guideline. But there's a
Speaker 10: lot of data that you know, is set to be
Speaker 10: released as soon as the government reopens, and that's going
Speaker 10: to be critical for us to understand where are we
Speaker 10: really you know, what does jobs look like, what does
Speaker 10: it look like? And you know, with the December FED
Speaker 10: meeting coming up, you know, with the potential for more
Speaker 10: interest rate cuts, that's going to be critical for the
Speaker 10: Fed as well. So you know, if we reopen on Wednesday,
Speaker 10: it's likely we get a slew of information on Thursday,
Speaker 10: and that's really going to shape you know, you know,
Speaker 10: what our future looks like from a policy standpoint, but
Speaker 10: also from a market standpoint.
Speaker 2: Okay, but based on the data we have right now,
Speaker 2: it looks like we have continued to continue to buy stuff, right,
Speaker 2: so consumer driven economy, steady spending, but there's some cracks
Speaker 2: around the edges.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, so it does seem that the consumer has
Speaker 10: continued to support the economy with steady spending, but we
Speaker 10: are seeing some weaknesses around the edges. We're starting to
Speaker 10: see debt start to climb a little bit. We see
Speaker 10: that climbing to about eighteen point six trillion in the
Speaker 10: third quarter. That's a three point six percent increase from
Speaker 10: a year ago. And even though that's a new high,
Speaker 10: the pace is still in line with the three point
Speaker 10: seven percent wage growth over the past year. So you
Speaker 10: have to kind of balance that and say, you know, yeah,
Speaker 10: it is climbing, but we're also making a little bit
Speaker 10: more money. But we also seeing, you know, some cracks
Speaker 10: other places too, and you know, specifically with our debt levels.
Speaker 10: Credit card balances are continuing to climb at a rate
Speaker 10: of five point eight percent. That's one point two three
Speaker 10: trillion dollars, and four point five percent of all household
Speaker 10: debt is now past due. So there are some cracks now.
Speaker 10: Even though the confidence is softening, and we measure that
Speaker 10: with the University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment Index. You know,
Speaker 10: we've had some of the weakest levels in nearly two years. However,
Speaker 10: most households now expect unemployment to rise over the next year.
Speaker 10: The shutdown has added to the uncertainty, but ultimately we're
Speaker 10: still doing okay at this point.
Speaker 4: So there are some cracks.
Speaker 10: It does seem like we're getting into a place where
Speaker 10: the economy is cooling a little bit, but it's not
Speaker 10: all that bad.
Speaker 2: Okay. I did see this because there's indicator's right, and
Speaker 2: metrics and all this, but this is an interesting test
Speaker 2: to me. So fast food, so companies like Household now, Chipotle, McDonald's,
Speaker 2: Burger King, Wendy's, they've started warring about looking at flagging purchases,
Speaker 2: basically meaning that the purchases among low income customers are
Speaker 2: starting to drop. So what they look at is shopper attitudes.
Speaker 2: And this was from this October and in November two.
Speaker 2: We know consumer sentiment is fairly low according to that
Speaker 2: University of Michigan Datta you cited too, But there's been
Speaker 2: a double digit drop in sales by from customers who
Speaker 2: made less than one hundred thousand dollars, so I mean
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand punds a lot of money. But for
Speaker 2: those under that threshold, we have seen the number of
Speaker 2: fast food purchases dropped dramatically from Chipotle, McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's,
Speaker 2: Taco Bell, KFC, et cetera, et cetera, to the point
Speaker 2: where that's why you're starting to see some of these
Speaker 2: value meals come back, and not the dollar value means anymore,
Speaker 2: like the five and eight dollar value meals, so not
Speaker 2: the value we used to just a few years ago.
Speaker 2: That seems to be a pretty interesting indicator to me.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think a lot of that has to
Speaker 10: do with discretionary spending. I don't go to fast food
Speaker 10: restaurants very often, and when I do, because I go
Speaker 10: in frequently, I do notice the increase in prices, and
Speaker 10: it's significant. And if you're a lower income house sold,
Speaker 10: you really have to watch their pennies and understand as
Speaker 10: the economy slows down, where that money is going. You know,
Speaker 10: are you able to go shopping at Kroger and find
Speaker 10: a chicken to roast and some green beans and paint
Speaker 10: is ten dollars in feed you know, six people within
Speaker 10: your house? Or are you going to spend fifteen dollars
Speaker 10: on a big mac coke and froes? You know, So
Speaker 10: it's coming down to I think everybody knows that the
Speaker 10: economy is pulling off a little bit, and I think
Speaker 10: a lot of people are really just trying to watch
Speaker 10: their pennies and the eventuality that maybe we do go
Speaker 10: into recession over the next couple of years, and that
Speaker 10: you have to have a little bit of cash reserves
Speaker 10: in case things do go sideways. In addition to that,
Speaker 10: people were nervous about losing their staff benefits. You know,
Speaker 10: that weighs on a lot of people's minds. So everybody's
Speaker 10: kind of circling the wagons right now and you know,
Speaker 10: really trying to figure out which way are economy's going now. Ultimately,
Speaker 10: as we continue to see the labor market cool a
Speaker 10: little bit, I think that that allows the Fed to
Speaker 10: cut rates in December and hopefully that will spurn the
Speaker 10: market as well. If you cut interest rates, that will
Speaker 10: increase demand because the cost of borrowing.
Speaker 4: Is a lot cheaper.
Speaker 10: Will also help businesses spend a lot more and also
Speaker 10: maybe open up their cofers to hire a little bit more.
Speaker 10: And so there's a balance there. And I think at
Speaker 10: this point people were kind of in a wait and
Speaker 10: see approach.
Speaker 2: All right, so buying less assuit but everything we buy
Speaker 2: apparently we're all putting on credit cards now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, and I think you know about seventy percent
Speaker 10: of people don't pay off their credit cards on a
Speaker 10: monthly basis, and you know that is a way to
Speaker 10: give some people flexibility. You know, if you are a
Speaker 10: government worker and you don't have income at this point,
Speaker 10: that makes sense, right, You're probably spending a little bit
Speaker 10: more on your credit card with the hopes that the
Speaker 10: government will reopen. And when the government does reopen, not
Speaker 10: only will that help those federal employees continue to earn
Speaker 10: a wage, but it will also help private businesses because
Speaker 10: they do a lot of business with those government entities.
Speaker 10: So that is the optimism that we're seeing from the
Speaker 10: market standpoint is that hey, business is likely going to
Speaker 10: get back to usual. The airports are not going to
Speaker 10: have to cut as many flights as as we need,
Speaker 10: and we're going to see government workers start to be
Speaker 10: employed once again, earn a and hopefully encourage more consumer spending.
Speaker 2: All right, Andy Schaeffer from all Worth this morning on
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW, talking about your money. We also know
Speaker 2: that while student loans, for example, I saw something that
Speaker 2: did delinquities start to go back up again?
Speaker 10: Yeah, they went up again as well, they served. Delinquencies
Speaker 10: jumped from less than one percent a year ago to
Speaker 10: more to fourteen percent following the end of the repayment pause,
Speaker 10: So that's significant as well.
Speaker 4: So yeah, there're certainly cracks.
Speaker 2: All right, very good, And we talked about the economic
Speaker 2: picture moving forward here we'll find and things are just
Speaker 2: kind of I mean, it's slowing, that's for sure, there's
Speaker 2: just no way around it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, a much weaker report came in on the job cuts.
Speaker 10: Corporations announced more than one hundred and fifty thousand job
Speaker 10: cuts last month. That's the highest October total and over
Speaker 10: two decades. You know, we're seeing companies like Amazon plans
Speaker 10: to cut fourteen thousand rolls. Target said it will trim
Speaker 10: about two thousand you know here locally, well, we know
Speaker 10: what's going on with ups and here locally, you know,
Speaker 10: we have you know, cuts from Program Procter and Gamble
Speaker 10: as well. So no, while they're not significant in the
Speaker 10: big scheme of things, you know, they employ thousands and
Speaker 10: thousands of employees, it is a trend and I think
Speaker 10: that right now business leaders are trying to you know,
Speaker 10: trim a little bit of the fact, get lean and
Speaker 10: be able to be nimbled to make decisions moving forward
Speaker 10: based on not only how our economy is going to project,
Speaker 10: but also with with with interest rates at how it goes.
Speaker 2: Okay, I had a concert food expert on not long
Speaker 2: ago from Manhattan Institute about the Supreme Court here in
Speaker 2: the tariff case, which is really going to impact markets
Speaker 2: depending how the Supreme Court rules on the whether or
Speaker 2: not tariffs are in the purview of the President of
Speaker 2: the United States. You know, it's our basically, it's attacks
Speaker 2: and only Congress can tax people. And if your Solicitor
Speaker 2: General admits it's a tax, that kind of underminds the
Speaker 2: argument before the High Court. What impact will this decision
Speaker 2: have on the market's.
Speaker 10: Huge if if if that actually gets rescinded and we
Speaker 10: have to unwind the tariff conversations with other countries. Not
Speaker 10: only will you know, how do we figure out how
Speaker 10: do we do we give them money back? You know,
Speaker 10: and and you know from the revenue that we get.
Speaker 10: And furthermore, that will certainly undermine the leverage that we
Speaker 10: have in these negotiations with other countries, and it will
Speaker 10: make us look significantly weak. Now I'm not an attorney,
Speaker 10: I don't know understand how all that plays out. But
Speaker 10: what I do know is if the Supreme Court rules
Speaker 10: against the ability for the Trump administration to implement these
Speaker 10: tariffs and will have a significant impact not only on
Speaker 10: our economy but the markets as well. I don't think
Speaker 10: that that's going to happen, but that is something to
Speaker 10: keep an eye on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you wonder, I mean, you can only factor
Speaker 2: this in so much if you're the market, right Rob
Speaker 2: wall Street, It'll be interesting because it'll go either extremely
Speaker 2: up or down at least for a couple of days anyway,
Speaker 2: But then we'll figure it out like we always do.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 10: The thing about the markets is that the markets are
Speaker 10: pre predictive indicators of how we feel about the economy
Speaker 10: looking out six months to a year. So the market
Speaker 10: generally will tell us how investors feel about, you know,
Speaker 10: not only certain economic data, but also geopolitical decisions. And
Speaker 10: at the moment, the market is not considering the fact
Speaker 10: that the terroriffs could be rescinded. We will see the
Speaker 10: markets respond, you know, way in advance of whatever decision
Speaker 10: is going to come from the Supreme Court. If that
Speaker 10: writing is on the wall. We're just not quite there yet,
Speaker 10: and the market doesn't believe that that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Andy Schaefer. One of the more interesting proposals coming out
Speaker 2: this week, and this one left me shaking my head.
Speaker 2: Is the President suggesting we should do a fifty year mortgage,
Speaker 2: not a fifteen and not a thirty, not a thirty
Speaker 2: five or forty, but a fifty year mortgage.
Speaker 4: Your reaction, Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 10: You know, And on one hand, the fifty year mortgage
Speaker 10: can be a game changer for people to be able
Speaker 10: to afford a home. It will certainly reduce the amount
Speaker 10: of payments that you're going to have on a monthly basis.
Speaker 10: But while that initially might seem appealing, there are some
Speaker 10: drawbacks and some of that could lead to obviously more
Speaker 10: payover time. You're not building as much equity in your home.
Speaker 10: There's more risk of default, and the reality is, if
Speaker 10: you need a fifty year mortgage, you probably can't afford
Speaker 10: the house. But I do understand on this surface, it
Speaker 10: does make it look more attractive for low income families,
Speaker 10: because the American dream is owning a home and being
Speaker 10: able to afford it. But on the other hand, there
Speaker 10: are a lot of you know, drawbacks and potential pitfalls
Speaker 10: for that fifty year mortgage.
Speaker 4: So if you're if you're if you're going.
Speaker 2: With the biggest loan you can get on a car
Speaker 2: like a new car is at eight years old.
Speaker 10: I don't even mean I mean I see a lot
Speaker 10: of five year loans. I think you can probably get
Speaker 10: an eight year loan. I haven't really researched, you know
Speaker 10: how far out.
Speaker 4: You have to go.
Speaker 2: The point is, is a financial we're just playing more principle.
Speaker 2: I mean the bank is that we're making the payment.
Speaker 10: And that's right, and it's one of those you know,
Speaker 10: you're kind of renting to own. And if you have
Speaker 10: a mortgage where on a thirty year loan where it's
Speaker 10: let's say one thousand dollars a month, and you can
Speaker 10: get a fifty year loan where it's six hundred dollars
Speaker 10: a month, you know, it makes it seem more affordable
Speaker 10: for people. But at the end of the day, you're
Speaker 10: not going to build enough equity. And what we've found
Speaker 10: from a data standpoint is if you are not able
Speaker 10: to build enough equity in your house, you are more
Speaker 10: risk to default and essentially get kicked out of your house.
Speaker 10: So the data suggests that that's not a good idea.
Speaker 10: I know it sounds attractive, but it's probably not advantageous
Speaker 10: for you to look at a fifty year term on
Speaker 10: a mortgage.
Speaker 2: If I'm forty years old, I get a fifty year mortgage.
Speaker 2: To the math there, it seems like the bank thing
Speaker 2: is gonna be holding for a lot out of you
Speaker 2: know you' sixties. Like, hell, I'll take a fifty year
Speaker 2: mortgage out. I don't have to pay that back. I'll
Speaker 2: be dead.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And I think, on the other hand, if you're let's
Speaker 10: say thirty years old, in your beginning of your career,
Speaker 10: you get a fifty year mortgage, that doesn't mean you
Speaker 10: can't pay it off sooner. And I think a lot
Speaker 10: of consumers at this point say, well, I'm struggling right now,
Speaker 10: or I'm just cut my teeth and I have an
Speaker 10: entry level job. But at some point I expect that
Speaker 10: I'm going to make a lot more money and maybe
Speaker 10: I can accelerate this mortgage a little bit more.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 10: There are some positives, but there's certain certainly some drawbacks there.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of debt held though. That's the thing
Speaker 2: a lot of people move to the fifty that that's
Speaker 2: a lot of debt that's hanging out there when we're
Speaker 2: already seemingly at our max.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and that's why I'm not really a big fan
Speaker 10: of it. I mean, if you have equity at home,
Speaker 10: you know, we could see a bubble. And you know,
Speaker 10: when when you hear the term bubble, nobody likes that.
Speaker 10: It brings us back to those thoughts of you know,
Speaker 10: two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, where we
Speaker 10: were lending to people that really couldn't afford it and
Speaker 10: a lot of those defaulted. And I fear that, you know,
Speaker 10: something like this could also create a bubble as well.
Speaker 10: You don't want to make be underwater on your loan
Speaker 10: because sometimes you owe more to the lender than your
Speaker 10: homes are worth. And that's what we're talking about with
Speaker 10: a fifty year mortgage. If you're not paying much into it,
Speaker 10: the bank holds the cards over your head.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: Finally, we are wrapping up enrollment season for not only healthcare,
Speaker 2: about iras and stuff like that.
Speaker 10: Real quick advice, Yeah, I think make sure that you
Speaker 10: do review it. A lot of people say, well, you know,
Speaker 10: everything's going to be the same. You want to make
Speaker 10: sure that you go into your platform with your employer
Speaker 10: to make sure that you know your choices are still
Speaker 10: in line with what your lifestyle needs. You know, whether
Speaker 10: it is adding insurance, whether it's long term disability, make
Speaker 10: sure that you're protected. And if your company does supply
Speaker 10: a decent amount of capital to those premiums on your behalf,
Speaker 10: you want to make sure that you take advantag of
Speaker 10: it because there's a lot of value there. If you
Speaker 10: go out on the street and get a disability policy,
Speaker 10: it's going to be significantly more expensive in a lot
Speaker 10: of cases versus what your employer is going to offer.
Speaker 10: And also kick into that premium whether you have the
Speaker 10: ability to have life insurance as well, you want to
Speaker 10: make sure all that's taken care of and button up.
Speaker 10: So my advice is to make sure that you review it,
Speaker 10: make sure it's in line with your lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it makes sense. And I unlily, I mean,
Speaker 2: we sat down and did the health benefits and one, okay,
Speaker 2: we've got all these new plans, and then about ten
Speaker 2: minutes and well let's just keep them one we have
Speaker 2: and pay a little bit more. I have no idea
Speaker 2: what this means.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, that's when you need to speak with your
Speaker 10: financial advisor to review it with them to make sure
Speaker 10: your idea.
Speaker 2: What all these copays and this and that and and
Speaker 2: it's a PPO and PPF and people just way how much?
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think that it can be complicated, but
Speaker 10: most corporations, especially if it's medium size to a large corporation,
Speaker 10: will have specialists with that corporation to be able to
Speaker 10: help you. I know, at all Worth Financial we have
Speaker 10: you know, our HR apartment holds a number of zoom meetings.
Speaker 4: To review those with employees.
Speaker 10: I think that we've scheduled you know, about a dozen
Speaker 10: of them so that it fits everybody's schedule to be
Speaker 10: able to participate. So hopefully your corporation and your entity
Speaker 10: you know, has the resources to be able to help
Speaker 10: you along with those choices.
Speaker 2: It's final. I'll work another five years to pay for
Speaker 2: the healthcare for this year. It's fine. It's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 4: Everything can be fine.
Speaker 2: Andy Schaeffer, all Worth Financial, simply money nine at six,
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