WEBVTT - 11-11-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.360 Do you want to be an American idiot? 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.240 All right, here we go on it's Tuesday morning, slowey, 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.880 seven hundred w and in a cold one at that's 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:12.160 also Veterans Day twenty twenty five. Thank you for all 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:13.720 of you who have served our country. More on that 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.920 a little bit later on. It looks like Congress may 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.400 be actually getting off their butts and moving forward. Here 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.800 could pass a funding passage this week and ending. And 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:24.759 once that happens, by the way, Trump should sign it, 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.880 and that will end the longest government shutdown in our 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.320 nation's history. In the history of America, we have never 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.400 been shut down this long. We're seeing. Of course the 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.680 snap benefits also flight delays and cancelations are part of 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:40.080 this thing. It's going to take a while for that 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:44.239 to get back together. But on this is Representative Greg Landsman, 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.760 who also is sitting on his hands right now in 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.120 his house. Greg, how are you. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.000 I'm about to go to DC, but yes, I'm down. 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:52.519 Good, are you? 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:53.400 I'm fine? 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:54.120 Veteran? 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.160 Yes, And thank you to all those who've served, by the. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:01.160 Way, yeah, everyone, everyone who's listened, who's served, genuinely, from 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:02.240 the bottom of my heart, thank you. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.440 I was in the service. I'm a Navy veteran. Yeah, 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.000 for twenty twenty four hours. I was in for twenty 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.200 four hours on a media tour. So I think I 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.080 get I think I get complimentary ice with my soda today. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.880 I believe if I get a pope, I could complimise. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:17.319 Yeah. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.800 Yeah, well we didn't get invade for that twenty four hours. 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.800 Before I go to DC, I'll do a bunch of 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:27.240 veterans today events and they're the best. We honor the 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.040 Veteran of the Year, both for Warren and Hamilton County, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.840 and they're just remarkable, remarkable human beings. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.399 Yeah, and so critical to what it is we do 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.000 here now, and sometimes we was sight of that, like 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.840 with the shutdown. It seems counterintuitive thinking veterans and talking 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.000 about the history of this great nation, the successes and 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.800 challenges we face, and then we're fighting over dumb stuff largely. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:51.480 But we have eight Senate Democrats, including Schumer, who broke 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.600 ranks to get this deal done, and it's going to 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.120 reverse the reductions in force and the where we're allegedly 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.320 getting a vote on the Affordable Care Act text credits 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:04.480 should be coming soon and refund Sam. Maybe the question 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.480 would be then why now, why is this happening now? 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:10.639 You know, I don't know. I mean, it's not clear why. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.160 These folks sort of, I think gave in because you know, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.840 at the end of the day, there wasn't real bipartisan 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.560 negotiations the president. And this is the first time ever 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.920 in my life I've ever seen a president sort of 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.200 not participate in something like this. I think the whole 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.200 thing has been absurd. There should never have been a shutdown. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.000 If if if you're you got a government that's this 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.320 close right that, you know, it's it's almost an equal 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.799 number of Democrats and Republicans in both the House and 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.560 the Senate, even though Republicans have the majority, Like you've 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.680 got to work together. Everyone has to work together. And 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:45.720 it's like it's the American way, like we do. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.280 Better when we work together. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.720 And there's been none of that. And so in the 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.880 absence of that, a few of these Senate Democrats decided, look, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.040 enough enough and we'll get what we can. But you know, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.200 they they feel like we gotta do it now, and 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.200 without the healthcare for peace, I can't abandon thirty two 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.120 thousand people might diss story too about to see skyrocketing 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:15.760 healthcare costs because they didn't extend the affordable care accessidies. 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.080 Are you voting an acid? 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I think most of us who 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.320 have been like fighting this healthcare fight will have to 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:25.040 vote against it. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:27.720 But the fact is is. 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.040 Like we're going to be here in the same place. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.400 It's money in three months. Like this is not a 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.680 long term funding bill. This was reopened the government, I 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.000 mean everyone thankfully, food assistants will go out and all 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.280 these other things that have been held up. I believe 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:49.080 unnecessarily by the administration. They could have provided relief during 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.880 this whole thing. But we're going to be back. And 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.760 the question is is that our Republicans and Democrats are 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.720 going to work together, you know, And I think in 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.520 the next round, Democrats need to be crystal clear about 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.480 what they're focused on, and it should be entirely on 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.240 the American people and costs and the things that are 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.040 going to bring costs down, like health care. I believe 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.440 that from the beginning it should have been reopened to 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:20.160 government and extend the subsidies so that people don't see 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.520 their healthcare premium skyrocket. That's crystal clear, and that's what 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.520 they ended up landing. On. But at our last, you know, 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.480 the eleventh hour, I think Republicans have to you know, 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.279 sort of buck Trump or push Trump to actually work 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.080 with Democrats because we need each other and we can't 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:36.760 keep doing this. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.480 What would be great, Greg Lansman. I mean, let's face it, Democrats, 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.080 you guys, you're not making healthcare more affordable. You're making 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.640 it worse with subsidy because you're giving people taxpayer money 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.560 to pay outrageously expensive care that doesn't solve the problem money, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:54.359 and it causes prices to go up, just like college subsidies, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.159 Like okay, we subsidized college and the price goes up 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.520 ten percent a year. But Republicans have been complained about 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.360 this for ten years and still have no plan or 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.120 alternative that's better. That's a failure. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.240 Yeah, it's a failure. I mean, there's no question about it. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:13.920 But I believe in this idea that people generally, at 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.640 the end of the day, want their tax dollars coming 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:21.919 back to them, and you know, when they're looking, fewer 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.520 and fewer people can get health care through their employer. 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.200 More and more employers are saying, look, go to you know, 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.039 we can't afford it because health care costs have gone 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.080 a big time, and a lot of that has to 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.200 do with how much profit is taken out throughout the system. 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:42.760 And then you know, when you go to the marketplace 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.039 and you buy your healthcare, which small businesses have to do, 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.680 farmers or all these folks who are not working for 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.080 a big company that can afford healthcare, you look at 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:54.880 a premium and you're like, Okay, I need a little 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.080 bit of help. And that's where these subjecties come into play. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.160 And it goes to the insurance companies, which may be 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.120 a problem, but you know, the fact of the matter 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.880 is is that these insurance companies are going to continue 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.680 to raise the cost and until we have real reform. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.159 And in the meantime, you're either leaving these folks out 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.720 to go into medical debt or lose their health care altogether, 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.240 which will raise everyone's. Else is the people who are 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.520 going to leave that lose their healthcare, the healthy ones, 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:25.599 because they're going to look at it and they're say, 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.680 I'm healthy, I can't afford this without any support, without 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.880 any subsidy, and everyone's healthcare costs are going to go up. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.720 I think it was a huge, huge, huge policy and 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:40.640 political mistake for them not to include these extensions. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.640 I have no problem with extending this for a limited 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.560 period of time, but a year or whatever it might be. 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.560 But there's also got to be a concrete go listen, 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.760 we have to blow this up and fix the problem. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.240 The subsidy. Yeah, I agree with I get why we 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.920 subsidize it. It makes a problem worse. But simply pulling 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.400 the carpetif from people is punitive, is what it is. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.640 You know, this is them that both sides agreed on 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.960 for the time being, and so you've got to continue that. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.800 I don't like it any more than anyone else does. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.840 I get that. But you simply say we're turning to 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.560 spick it off, and hey, good luck, because now you're 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.360 going to flood hospitals, emergency rooms and it's just gonna 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.560 it's just going to increase the cost of healthcare and 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.800 make it worse for everyone involved. Instead of sitting down 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.000 and solving the problem, going Okay, we're going to stend 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.920 this for a period of time and we have X 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.320 amount of days or years, whatever it is, to come 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.520 up with a solution that's going to bring costs down 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.080 and take care of people who fall between the cracks, 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.760 but at the same time make healthcare accessible and bring 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.480 the cost down like the rest of the world. I 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.640 know it's a big problem, but we've been talking this 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.440 now for generations. I don't know why we can't get 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:40.320 together and solve this. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.480 Leadership, right, I mean, ultimately, when we solve big problems, 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.720 it's because there's been a big time leader, and you know, 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.280 we don't have that right now. And then this is 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.440 this is an indictment on both sides, but we just 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.560 don't have the kind of big time leaders that can 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.400 get people in a room, and so all these really 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:09.560 complicated issues. I spent Saturday in South Lebanon and it 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.520 was on immigration. It was with a group called Braver Angels. 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:17.680 They pulled together ten Republicans and ten Democrats and they 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.400 had already spent a day in September working through the 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.440 immigration issue, and I think it was five hours. They 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:29.400 came to what would be really good transformative policy on 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:35.520 border security and immigration reform, and you know, it just 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.440 reminded me, and then we got a chance to talk 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.439 through it. It reminded me that the American people, the vast 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.840 majority of people, are somewhere in the middle right seventy 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.120 eighty percent of us are somewhere in the middle. We 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.439 just need the kind of leadership that said, look, I'm 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.920 not going to I'm not going to be hyperpartisan. I'm 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.240 actually going to solve this. And so you know, with 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.440 a big time leader, you could have somebody say, look, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.520 I'm going to put people in a room on immigration, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.000 I'm going to put people in the room on healthcare, 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.600 I'm going to put people in a room on costs, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.239 and you would see big, big change. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.640 All right, So we're back to this anyway. Representative Greg 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.040 Landsman on the show, and it looks like we're going 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.880 to get opening up the government here after the longest 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.480 shutdown in our history. Democrats like yourself want the shutdown, 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.200 say we're not going to settle for the promise of 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.719 a vote, but that's what happened, and one said it's 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.840 an awful deal and a total failure too. So are 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.960 you going to be punished for this by your constituents, 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:30.560 so specifically the progressive and Democrats for for what happened here? 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:33.240 I don't think so. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.959 I mean, you know, I've been in this fight on 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.160 the on the healthcare piece, and you know where last 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.440 majority of folks are which is reopen, extend the you know, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.640 extend the subsidies, make sure that people don't see skyrocketing 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.760 health care costs. And and my position hasn't changed, So 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.200 you know, I'm going to keep petting for this and 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.720 and and I think my constituents are there with me. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.240 I think they're relieved that the government's going to be opened. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.439 And yeah, at the end of the day, I think 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.439 they hate the chaos and the I'm the opposite of that, right, 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.280 Like you know, I'm about as structured and disciplined and 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.000 reliable as you get. 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:11.839 So my sense is. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:15.040 That people are and I do. I hear this so 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.640 much traveling around the district, which I've had the opportunity 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.120 to do more so because of the shutdown. I've been 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.600 all over and it's been that part's been great. People 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.360 are so tired of the hyperpartisan politics, the fact that 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.840 everyone's yelling at them at each other and not focused 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:37.640 on them. They are they're they're underwater. I mean, farmers 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.439 are panicked in terms of what they're dealing with, small businesses. 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.240 Everyone is struggling, not a little bit of pain, but 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.280 a lot of pain in terms of trying to pay 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.559 their bills and they look to you know, politics and 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.960 they're like, well, there's just fighting with each other. This 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:58.200 is this is absurd, And you know, I'd stay out 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.720 of those fights and try desperately to find people to 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.600 work with. And we had a crew that was working 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.440 on a you know, a bipartisan solution, but they're just 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.840 there just wasn't ultimately any interest from the White House 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:12.720 and others. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.559 Yeah, and obviously it's two sides of willing to negotiate here, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.480 but you mentioned that vast majority of the silent majority 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.880 in the middle. It doesn't seem like it's getting better. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.440 It seems like it's getting worse. And you know, whether 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.439 it's the healthcare or what's going with the economy, it's 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.080 our federal dead and we can talk about all those 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.640 things that it doesn't seem like the needle's moving. It's 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.880 more about messaging, posturing in our side or their side 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:37.240 of winning. 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.440 Yeah, totally, that's what I see. That's you know, this 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.440 has been nice to be sort of away from all 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.600 that because quite frankly, like you come back here and 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.320 that's not what people want and it's not what they're 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:53.720 talking about. And this is my community of my people 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.880 I love it, and it's it's a good reminder that 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:00.840 this is this is broken. The whole thing is broken, 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:05.680 and uh, you know it's going to require like it 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.480 is entirely possible that it's gotten so bad that what 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:12.880 follows this is some sort of postpartisan you know, crew 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.559 of leaders who just work right and they're focused entirely 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:22.000 on on their constituents, which is the way democracy should work. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.120 Whether or not that happens, you know, that is up 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.680 to us. But I you know, like I do think 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.880 that's I mean, look, I'm I'm a little bit more optimistic. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.199 I think it's so bad. It's funny that that people 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.320 are going to say no, Like if you if you're running, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.600 do not be one of these partisan hacks. We can't 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:40.280 do it anymore. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:45.680 Yeah, it seems like, you know, moderates aren't necessarily taking 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.400 things back. I mean, you have a better perspective at 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.280 than I do. I mean, you're a moderate, but you're 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.080 few far between. Is a very small coalition. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.280 I'm a pragmatism, somebody who likes to get to work 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.959 and some things, I'm moderate on some things, I'm progressing 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.479 on the conservative I feel like I'm where my constituents 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:08.000 are and this district and you know, the district is 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.720 more sort of you know, pragmatic. But if I look 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:18.760 at election results and in Virginia and in New Jersey, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.040 you know, Mikey Cheryl is a good friend, and Abigail 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.920 Spamberger is a friend, they are very much like me. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:30.000 They are very much pragmatic folks who focus entirely on issues. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.920 They like solving problems, and they aren't partisan hacks. They 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.560 one big So I do think if if you know, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:42.800 if both parties allow the folks who you know, who 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:47.679 are who represents that big majority, uh, you know, if 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.320 they let them out of primaries or they can find 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.000 their way out of a primary, those are the folks 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.480 that are going to win, whether they're Republicans or Democrats 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:59.520 like they just you know, if you if you if 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.200 you decide that you're going to you know, cater to 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.480 the far lefter the far right, you may win a primary, 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.840 but that's just not going to get the country anywhere. 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:08.120 Yeah. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.400 But again it's the rules of engagement written by the 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.839 Democrats and Republicans. I'm going to look at redistricting here 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.000 in Ohio on how you're bearing the part of that 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:18.480 right now, it's going to be hard for you. But 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.760 I can also point to California and what they're doing there. Yeah, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:23.640 it's all awful. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.240 I mean, I on the California piece, like, I understand 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.240 why they're doing it, but I don't understand why they're 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.640 celebrating it. Partisan jerry mandering is one of the worst 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:34.680 things that has ever happened to our democracy. And then 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:39.120 that's not hyperbolic. It takes away, you know, the power 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.640 of voters. You know, in these instances where you do 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:46.600 partisan jerrymandering, where they do it, the decision is made 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:51.520 before people even get their valid and it's terrible. So 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.400 you know, Congress has to pass and this is going 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.240 to require I think those of us who are so 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.240 passionate about it to start organizing and be louder about 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.160 it and get people engaged in this pass an anti 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:08.600 partisan jerry mandering bill to protect the democracy. You know, 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.080 both Republicans and Democrats have to stop doing it and 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.160 return power back to people because the reason why things 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.840 are so bad economically is because we've lost so much 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.480 of our power and the folks at the top can 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.960 can rig it, and they've rigged it. They've rigged it 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.840 for themselves and they're making money hand over fi at 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.360 our expense. You know, just one you know example, because 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:35.520 I was out in Warren County and talking to farmers 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.920 this week and or last week. These huge megafarms. They 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.080 have all this private capital, they get all this money, 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.640 and they're just that plus the tariffs, they're just taking 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.600 it out on our farmers. I mean, it's this is 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.720 this is a real crisis for farmers. 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:52.840 Yeah. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.280 But I mean it's not like we're cutting off you know, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.200 we're a lot more productive when it comes to farm 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.000 line where they're just a generation to go. I mean, 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.720 and that's that's a separate discussion entirely. And you know, 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.680 we're moving more towards AI and we need to put 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.240 those things in for sure. I don't want to get 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:07.920 off in the weeds here because we're talking about the 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.680 government reopening and healthcare and how that all fits into 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.240 the thing. And we're just going to do this again 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.960 in three months, right, it's a few weeks from now, 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.600 Are we going to have another shutdown? And if I 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.480 were looking at and go yeah, probably. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.320 Yeah, unless unless unless the disposition of the White House changes. 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.520 I mean, I you know, I know this skills or 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.840 sounds potentially part of some. But I would say this 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.280 if it was a Democrat and the Democrat in the 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.240 White House wasn't negotiating. The President of the United States 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.920 has to engage. They have to engage. They are the 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.680 they are the person in charge. They have to bring 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:47.280 people together. And again, this deal would have been done, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.360 you know, within a matter of days. There should never 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:51.320 have been a shutdown. 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:52.200 You know. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:54.680 You know, my understanding is that when they went in 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.040 there and they had this one conversation with Trump about it, 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:02.720 he was supportive of of the healthcare supports and understood 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.040 that they needed to get past It was Johnson who said, 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.639 well wait a minute, because you didn't have the votes 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.680 you know, on his side. But he you know, if 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.159 you rely entirely on partisan votes, you're not going to 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:13.879 get a good result. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:14.600 You're going to get this. 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:15.600 You're going to get this. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.280 It's chaos. Yeah, and we're just gonna I think we're 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:19.560 gonna have more of it in just a few short 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.600 months again. But you know, for the for the short term, 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:23.879 make sure people are whole. Let's keep it the way 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.600 it is. I don't like having to pay more for it, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.760 but this doesn't do anything. Actually, what we just did 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.680 with the shutdown makes government even more expensive because we're 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.560 borrowing more money and we're going to do that with 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.919 healthcare subsidies or just transferrents of wealth. I'd rather it 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:38.680 be that we have some sort of health I don't 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.200 know what it's going to look like in the future. 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.240 I'm more libertarian, Greg, I think that the free market 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.920 can solve this if government backs off, put some roadblocks 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.480 in and rules for everybody, and especially this day and 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.600 age when people are helding multiple jobs. It's the gig economy. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.679 It makes no sense to till your employment benefits to 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.560 your workplace. Most Americans get it through their workplace, but 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.959 that's a dwindling number. The big companies can afford it. 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.919 The bulk the bulk of business in America small business 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.120 and like my wife, we're small business people. We don't 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.119 pay benefits. We can't afford that. And if we're going 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.399 to have a portable gig economy, these things have to 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.760 work together. Greg Landsman, Representative, Now get back to DC 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.800 and do something about it. All right, take care, thanks again, 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.080 be well saved. Travel's got to get a time out 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:25.080 in and uh, remembering our veterans today with Honor Flight. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.240 By the way, Honor Flight turning twenty years old, twenty 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.639 years old, and it was there's a chakra for you. 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.560 It started right here in the Tri State details coming 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.520 up next to the Scott flund Show seven hundred WOW 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.960 Scott plumb Out seven hundred WLW on the eleventh day 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:48.120 of November twenty to twenty ft. Also, it is Veterans Day, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.560 and of course a lot of you know, places are 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.880 doing things, well we should. A lot of places are 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.600 doing things for veterans. I know, the Casino's got free 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.879 food for veterans this afternoon, a bunch of other places 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.960 as well. Just google it, our check seven hundred ww 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.239 dot com got more on that one. One of the 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.400 things we do for veterans. This is a really really 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.720 cool thing that started just twenty years ago. On Or Flight, 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.680 the nonprofit organization that provides free trips to d c 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.400 for military veterans to visit the memorials dedicated to their service. 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:18.679 And I mentioned it's been gone for twenty years, so 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:22.679 the twentieth anniversary is today. That organization in the Tri 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.040 State and Dayton and on. This is Adam Arrow is 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.680 a news director at ABC twenty two in Dayton twenty 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.920 four to seven now and he's got a piece that's 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.880 running on about four stations for markets in the Buckeye 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.359 State as well, including here in Cincinnati. Adam, welcome back. 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.119 How you been, Hey, doing well, Scott? Thanks a lot 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.199 for having me. This is a wonderful program. It's that 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.040 we've been able to highly invest in over the last 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:46.280 during my time over the last ten years. 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.159 Yeah, it really is cool and it came on to 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.640 its own as I said in two thousand and five, 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.320 and you may have heard about it too, But these 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.560 are and these the trips are it's a one day 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.480 trip to d C. Veterans get to go to the 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:02.840 memorials and they're taken by either loved one or a 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.359 volunteer guardian who system throughout the day and then they 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.720 fly back and it's really really cool. What do you 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:08.840 know what memorial say? 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:09.199 Is it? 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.440 They visit most of them. So we've had an opportunity 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.000 to go on three of these trips. They'll go to 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.600 the US Marine Corps Memorial, to go to the Lincoln Memorial, 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.720 the Vietnam Memorial, the Korea War Memorial, and the World 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.080 War Two Memorial. This all started Scott in Springfield back 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.640 in two thousand and five. A man by the Earl 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.760 Morse was a physician assistant over at the Springfield DA 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:34.680 And it was right after the World War Two Memorial 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.800 was built in DC. It built two thousand and four, 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:38.920 and he was speaking with some of the World War 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.040 Two vets and trying he said, hey, guys, he decided 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.760 to go to your memorial now that it's finally built, 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.160 and it's like, well, we don't think we can make it, 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.600 you know, for age or monetary reasons. So that really 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.760 frustrated him. And he had belonged to an aero club 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.560 over at Right Path and so that's the Air Force 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.879 base here up in Dayton. And he started talking to 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.120 somebody these of their small pilots and they just decided, 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:02.840 you know what, we're going to fly them ourselves. And 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.200 so six pilots took off in two thousand and five 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:09.879 and took a handful of these World War Two veterans 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:14.320 to DC and it just snowball from there. It inspired 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:16.479 a movement across the country. Now there's one hundred and 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.000 twenty eight I believe hubs across the country, including Cincinnati. 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.879 Yeah, that is incredible and it started right in Springfield 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.080 in two thousand and five because someone said, hey, how 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.920 come we can't get these guys and women to see 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:31.399 what it is we built for them. And yeah, it 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.520 makes sense in retrospect that you know, you should be 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.600 able to see the memorial you help craft, absolutely, and 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.200 it continues to grow as well. You mentioned there's over 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.679 one hundred and twenty nationwide, and I think other cities 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.240 just continue to get on and say, hey, this is 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:45.480 something we need to do well. 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:47.880 And especially it's a ball of too right because there's 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.040 you know, unfortunately there's not as many World War Two 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:54.200 vets with us anymore, so it's evolved into mostly Vietnam 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.119 and some Korea. Thats taking the DC And for these 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.399 Vietnam guys, I mean, you know, they were craped on 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.600 when they came back, the majority of them were, and 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:04.639 they didn't get that welcome home. Many of them hid, 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.399 you know, who they were and what they did, and 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:09.480 they don't talk about their service. And then they get 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.960 an opportunity to go on this honor flight and it's 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.399 very cathartic for many of them, and they get that 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.480 welcome home when they come back to the airport and 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.840 everyone's cheering for them and telling them thank you, and 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.840 throughout the trips they're getting the sixty kind of treatment 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.520 while they're in DC, and it just means the world 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.400 to these guys. And you can see it in their faces. 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:28.919 You see the gears, you see the hugs. You know, 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.400 when you get to that wall, especially in the Vietnam Wall, 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:35.520 it's one of the most powerful experiences, you know, that 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.159 I've experienced as a civilian. You know, I don't have 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.800 a military background, but seeing these guys and the weight 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.159 that it lifts off their shoulders, it's truly remarkable. 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:48.119 He's Adam Arrow, ABC twenty two and Dayton twenty four 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:51.120 to seven now has a store that's running in four markets, 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:55.160 including Sincy. Regarding today the twentieth anniversary on this Veterans 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.600 Day of Honor Flight that takes our veterans to DC 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.400 for a one day trip, It's long day for these guys, 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:02.760 isn't it. 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:03.520 It is a long day. 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:03.720 You know. 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.000 We went on the trip for Honor Flight Dayton back 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.240 in September, which was really exciting because they for the 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.480 first time they took military aircraft. They two sea some 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:14.520 teens on the right pad and they took one hundred 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.040 and fifty six vets to DC, which was the first 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.560 time they've done that in the program's history. They typically 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:22.720 will take commercial airliners to try to maximize how many 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.560 vets they can take on the trip. So that was 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:29.080 kind of the catalyst to doing a special tonight, which 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.040 is a half hour special, and we're going to re 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.440 air that story that we did. It's a long form story, 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.560 and then we talked to Earl Earl Morris, who founded 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.600 on a Flight, and we did a story with him 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:42.760 just talking about the genesis of the program. And then 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.080 we also include a second trip that we took in 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:48.160 twenty twenty two, which was the first trip that Honor 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.639 Flight Dayton had taken coming out of the pandemic, and 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.440 so that was highly emotionally charged because you had a 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:55.399 lot of vets that weren't able to go because the 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:57.480 program had to be shut down for a couple of years. 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.760 So all in all, I mean, it's a thirty minutes 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.080 of a couple of trips and just the history of 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:05.480 this great program. 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.200 Adam Ara on how's the funding. It seems like we've 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.920 got enough corporate sponsors and backers to keep this thing going, 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.080 and that's true in here in Cincinnati. 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:18.760 What about Dave, Yeah, it's the same thing, right, It's 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:22.360 all donations, you know, these Honor Flight boards, they they 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:26.600 all volunteer their time. They go out and solicit sponsorships 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:30.720 and donations. And because you know, reserving a commercial airliner 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:33.359 is not cheap, right, I mean it's it's you know, 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.320 one hundred thousand dollars, you know, just to do that. 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:40.200 So they, thankfully it's an easy program to get behind. 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:42.600 So there's been a lot of great businesses throughout the 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:45.800 tri state and across the country that have financially backed 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.159 this program to get these vets on these trips because 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.320 you know, some of them will put it off and 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:52.560 they won't go. And really the push right now is 0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:54.280 to get as many of these guys and men and 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.400 women on these trips as possible because it truly does 0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:59.040 make a big difference in their lives. 0:24:59.119 --> 0:24:59.359 Yeah. 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:01.560 In fact, I'll tell you, I'll tell you one story. 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.320 We had a guy on our trip in twenty twenty 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:08.920 two who went and he passed away before the story aired, 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.359 but I found out from his family that he was 0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.679 buried in his Honor flight. Sure, I mean, that's the 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:15.600 kind of power that these trips have on these guys. 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.840 And he's not unique to that. There's been many, many 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:18.480 cases of that. 0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:22.040 So yeah, it's nice to have some respect. But I 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:23.800 think it's closure for a lot of these guys, well, 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.479 especially the Vietnam era vets that that get to go 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.760 see that memorial, that have those memories. But that's also 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.000 true of Korean War and World War Two vets, which 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.480 of course that that generation is tapping out, so to speak. 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.119 And I know they prioritize these flights, so if you 0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.560 are the older, you are the you know, for example, 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:42.560 World War Two veterans get top priority. Correct. 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.560 Yeah, yeah, they'll they'll go out of their way to 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:49.320 make it work. And I can't emphasize it enough. There's 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.080 hubs all across Ohio. Just google Honor Flight Ohio and 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.640 you'll find a hub near you and you can get 0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.159 on one of these trips, apply and go because it 0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.119 is it is one of the most incredible experiences. I 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.760 can't speak enough about the people behind the program and 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:03.719 how much work they put in. 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:05.879 I don't know if you covered this in the piece, Adam, 0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.600 but they do flightless Honor Flight. Now for those veterans 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:09.439 who are unable to. 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:13.879 Travel flightless You mean the RV trips. 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.960 Yeah, they call them flightless honor flights and for those 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.080 who physically can't make the trip to DC anymore. 0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:22.560 Yeah, and that that is a neat part of it. 0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:26.520 There's also the Honoring Yesterday's Hero program, which is where 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:31.280 they take photos of the families better and take them 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:34.240 to DC and take a photograph of that photo with 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:38.040 an American flag at the memorial representing the conflict that 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.720 they served in. So they did they go, They really 0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.119 go out of their way to try to honor these 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.440 these men and women in every way possible. 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.359 Yeah. Talk about how the guardian process works too, because 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.520 not all vets are bringing someone with them, especially the 0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.240 older ones that have lost people around them. And so 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.760 you can also volunteer to become one of those guardians. 0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:57.560 Yeah. So one of the things when they first started 0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.920 the program was e Remorse made it a point. He said, look, 0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.320 rule number one, they're not going to pay. And rule 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.480 number two, when you fly these guys out, you're going 0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:06.960 to stay with them all day. You're not going to 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.760 wander off to go do something else. And so you 0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.840 can volunteer and you can have family members they don't 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.520 do spouses because they want it to be a much 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:19.680 more focused trips. But you know, I've seen granddaughters or grandsons, 0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.080 you know, be a guardian for their for their grandparents, 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.960 or a son or daughter. In fact, we talked to 0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.800 a son and daughter, a father and daughter pairing on 0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:34.280 our last trip that we went in September, and it's 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.800 just a remarkable experience. And to be able to see 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.760 it just from a from their perspective, and to be 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:44.160 with them all day, it's just it's amazing to say 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:44.520 the least. 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.680 Yeah, it is pretty cool. You also volunteer, as they said, 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:47.960 and there's a cost to you to do that, but 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.000 I mean, to get to see that up close and 0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.480 that personal on the day is is it's enriching for everyone, 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.840 but you're also helping out of that and having that 0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.000 story come to a conclusion their service for our country. 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.720 And this also includes not just war veterans too, but 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.040 I know the terminally ill veterans from any area are 0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.000 eligible here provided you know that it's based on age 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.520 sixty five and older, and the older you are, the 0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.679 more prioror you get for obvious reasons, but even terminally 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.280 ill veterans get a chance to go to this. 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:17.960 Well they do, and you know some of these that's 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.560 you know, they they're so humble and they feel bad, like, well, 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.840 I didn't serve in the actual conflict, but I served 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.679 during the conflict, right Like I wasn't in a battle 0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.840 or anything. But you know that doesn't matter. You served 0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.159 your country and that's what that's what it comes down to, 0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:31.920 and that's what these trips are designed for. You don't 0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.199 you don't have to have served in a in a 0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.920 battle or you know any of that stuff. If you're serve, 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:38.719 if you served your country, I mean, that's that's who 0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.000 that's what they're looking for to take on these trips. 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:42.800 All right. So sure, So if you're in Dayton, this 0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:43.680 is on when. 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.840 The Dayton Specialty. So that half hour special airs on 0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.920 ABC twenty two tonight at seven and then it airs 0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:55.200 on Fox at ten thirty tonight. So and in Cincinnati 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.840 it air is at ten this morning on Star sixty four. 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.960 So it's also wearing a Toledo and Columbus as well. 0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:04.960 Okay, good, So if you're hearing this and you want 0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:06.360 to check that out or go to a date in 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.680 twenty four to seven now and you can watch it 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.120 on demand, i'd imagine as well. Adam Arrow, news director 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.080 up there, thanks again for jumping on this morning. And 0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.800 it's an important story and an important day, so I'm 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:17.360 glad we're getting the word out about this. And if 0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.120 you're looking to volunteer or maybe make a donation and 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:24.040 get involved, you can reach out to a Honor Flight, 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.160 which was created right in Springfield, so right here in 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.200 our community. Thanks again, but I appreciate it. 0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:30.160 Thanks God, I appreciate your time. 0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.920 Take care. Yeah. Also, on this Veterans Day twenty twenty five, 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.240 we have all sorts of freebies out there for you 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.200 because plenty of people want to pick up the cost 0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.280 of at least breakfast, late breakfast or lunch today, if 0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.040 not dinner. Well, Gay, I got that naxt I'll share 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.080 it with you right after this. 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You got 0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.800 it all. So and probably many more didn't have a 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.960 chance to mention as well too, but you know what, 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.160 you earned it. Go get it, enjoy yourself, eat free 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.280 all day pretty much. I'd say, what if they say 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.680 veterans going around just you know today as the day is, 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.440 I'm wearing I'm wearing stretch pants and I'm hitting all 0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.880 those spots. So I'm doing all five of those today. 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.000 You go get it, go after it, go on, get 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.600 you some, get you some. And for those of us 0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:53.080 who didn't serve, I would say, in the mortal words 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.000 of SEG. Dennison, the three words you need to know 0:30:56.080 --> 0:31:00.920 are nick rib. Okay, that's that three words. Thank you. 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:05.480 The McRib is back, and that's a deal for all Americans. 0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.120 I think that's appropriate that on this Veterans Day, when 0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.520 we celebrate America and those who served our country at 0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.800 times of peace and times of war, but mainly just 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.760 all veterans, that the symbols of this country. Maybe not 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.840 the flag of the United States, the Constitution, the capital, 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:23.640 all that stuff, it's the fact that the McRib is 0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.400 back today. That is the that's American af right there, 0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:31.640 By the way, we're bringing the mcgrib back on Veterans Day. Perfect, perfect, 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.280 that is the truly the symbolism of this great nation. 0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:39.080 Home of the best Bengals coverage seven hundred ww Cincinnati. 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:40.920 Do you want to be an American? 0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:46.400 Scott blown back on seven hundred WWT first snowfall yesterday. 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.080 But if you're in the city of Cincinnati and you 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.040 went to the new and highly publicized snowplow tracker website, 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:57.000 it was not working. Wasn't up. Why Well, he's I 0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.239 would call him mister Plow. He just ran a very 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.719 successful re election campaign and he won. That'd be council 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.440 Member Seth Walsh. Congratulations. By the way, I'm glad you 0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.240 got your seat back or retain your seat. I guess 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.480 I should say thanks, Scott. 0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:10.280 I appreciate it. 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:11.360 This morning. 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:13.840 Yeah, you too. We talked a lot about transportation. I 0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:18.040 saw your you know, your campaign ads featured snow removal issues. 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.680 It's one of the big big things for people. Obviously 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.960 they felt made that connection, being November and all that. 0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.680 So let's go back to this now. We know the 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.000 headaches and heartbreak we had this time last year, or 0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:29.920 maybe a little bit later earlier than last year, but 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.120 two weeks ago the city I think it was two 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.480 weeks ago, we had this, you know, this whole crowdsourcing thing, 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.200 and we're having a contest to come up with a 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.520 better way to get the information about plows working. And 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.560 we've got these investments and we've instructed all the plow 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.040 drivers and workers how to use these tablets and we 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:46.520 put them in the plows and you can see if 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.360 it's coming down your road or where they are, and 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.800 if you if they're missing you, you can somehow send 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.719 a message back to central Command, the High Command. We'll 0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:56.480 get a plowed to you. We'll get your plowed out. 0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.080 We did all this, it snowed yesterday and it wasn't 0:32:59.120 --> 0:32:59.960 on Why. 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.840 Well, I think some bl answer Scott is there weren't 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:07.000 snowplows out there yesterday. The ground was pretty warm, so 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.280 snow wasn't sticking. They did a lot of pre treatment 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:15.000 for the streets and you know, it resulted in pretty safe, 0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.840 clean streets very quickly yesterday. But I think there's a 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:22.000 fair there's a fair question there. You know, why why 0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.920 are we not including when we're pre treating the streets, 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.280 so you know your streets getting pretreated. There's a lot 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.400 of information. I think people love to know that we're 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:33.520 not quite there yet. But yesterday some blansters just there 0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.400 weren't clouds out there because the weather was taking care 0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:37.120 of it for us. 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.560 Yeah, I think typically, and it's I think it's an 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.320 important point is that we weren't plowing. But certainly you 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.920 know where I lived and coming from Warren County to 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.840 Hamlin County, the roads were well, they were in need 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.560 of some some treatment for sure. You know, maybe not 0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.760 plowing technically, but I think when you're a constituent, when 0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.160 you're a voter, when you're taxpayer homeowner, you look at 0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.240 it going. I don't care plowing or just treating. I 0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:00.920 just want to know you guys are doing your job. 0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:03.720 I just want to know you're out there tackling the problem, 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:05.720 and I go log on the site that you guys 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.359 pouted the hell out of and it's saying, Wow, there's 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.840 nothing to see here. Forget it. I go here we 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.319 go again with the communication. I think that's I don't 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.680 think that's an unfair analysis of this. 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.399 No, No, it's not unfair at all. And I talked 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.000 about city communication all the time. I think it's the 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:24.760 only thing we know about each other at this stage. 0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:30.399 But yesterday was the first day that really builded two 0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:34.759 debut things I think we needed. Let me back it up. 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.000 We actually got a briefing yesterday that was coincidentally prepared 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.600 before the snow is planned. And one of the things 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.000 they talked about was there a forty four major areas 0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.840 of failures that we had in this last snow emergency 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.640 right back in January. I think a lot of people 0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:51.400 like to try to downplay and say, well, was ten 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.120 inches of snow, what did you expect us to do? 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.360 And the answer is how it? And the reality is like, 0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.080 there was a lot of reasons why we couldn't get 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.520 it resolved, and there are forty four major areas to 0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:03.640 resolve it. They have been working incredibly diligently and you 0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:05.560 know that I'm not wont to hold back a criticism. 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.839 So I hope this comes across genuinely here because they 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:13.400 have worked very diligently to get the entire operation scrapped 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.640 and rebuilt since January, including bringing to a new director 0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:20.320 of Public Services who has just impressed me a snow end. 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:25.719 Yesterday they debuted it, and I think, like many things 0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.279 of the city, we just missed the market on how 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.480 we can do the pr I think we forget that 0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.200 people want to play with the new shiny things just 0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:34.520 as much as we want to debut them. And so yesterday, 0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.720 you know, it snows and you're like, where's the snowpod tracker? 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.640 It was a design for this, and so there's a 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.680 lot of disappointment, including myself initially, and I asked the briefing, like, 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:44.919 why aren't we showing off the snowpops, like because there's 0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.279 not snowflops, and they're like, oh, that makes sense. But 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:49.759 I do think that there was a lot more we 0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:51.600 could do in the communications. I think there's more we 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.160 could do to showcase what we're doing to get people 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:55.759 out there and have you ride along in the snow, 0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.400 possibly like here's how it's dramatically different because it is, 0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.160 and there's still a lot more work we have to do, right, 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.480 let's not sugarcoat it. There's a lot of work that 0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:05.320 had to go to the rebuildings entire operation. 0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:09.200 Yeah, I so were you treating streets at all yesterday 0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:10.879 during the event or was it just a pre treat 0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:12.120 and hey, it's going to melt anyway? 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.040 To my understanding was we did a lot of pre treatment. 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.319 There were some areas that we were getting reports on 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.319 that we were getting out there and doing treatment on. 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:23.239 But within the city limits, it sounded like they had 0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.000 it pretty well under control and that the pretreatment did 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.440 its job. One of the things that I don't think 0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.960 they've talked about that, and it sounds insane, but these 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.480 guys actually went out to cities I experienced massive snowfall, 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.400 Denver being the most recent one. How do you guys 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.080 handle this? And they took those lessons they came back 0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.520 and to used it to get ready yesterday and you know, 0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.320 short of a few car accidents that that I've heard about, 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.040 which you know, I think is on all of us 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.080 to make sure we're driving safe and snow weather. I'm 0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:53.879 from Michigan or from Buffalo. We know what this is like. Yep. 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.080 It sounds like things actually worked pretty smoothly yesterday in 0:36:58.160 --> 0:36:59.880 terms of the actual road condition. 0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.920 And that's the hardest parte. I guess that's my point. 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:05.920 It's the lack of communication. It's getting the ball to 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.319 the goal line and fumbling. And I look at this way. 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:13.200 For example, our peers around this Louisville, Kentucky Transportation canbiet 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.920 cabinet O Dott Warren County, Butler County. They're active on 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.399 social media saying hey, we're treating the road street. I 0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.160 was looking through this morning school and so the only 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:22.920 thing on there was come and meet. I think a 0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.520 police dog was the only text or the only social 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:30.479 message from a post from the city. At the very least, 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.520 you know, communicate that on social and say, hey, listen, 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.960 we only turn the app on when we are plowing streets, 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.280 not pre treating streets. And then people go, oh, okay, 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.920 yeah that makes sense. But to leave people hanging like 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.839 that is that's just incompetent, isn't it. 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:48.840 You know, it's frustrating. I think it's frustrating, and I 0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:52.760 think it's part of a culture mindset that I'm personally 0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:54.680 trying to get shifted to the city hall, which is 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.680 they try to solve the problems. They don't necessarily communicate 0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:01.000 how they solve the problem. And that's what we saw yesterday. Hey, 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.000 the problems solved, So no, we knows the problem solved. 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.759 Worried about why the snowpout tract and you did. 0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.000 All this hype about the app and so people are 0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.040 naturally going to go, oh, I'll see why you know 0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.120 what's going on with And it's like, wait, it's down 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.000 and it feels like you failed when actually everything worked. 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:16.359 Right. 0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.080 You know, there's nothing worse than turning in your paper, 0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:21.840 but the professor loses it. So you're like, well you didn't. 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:25.400 You didn't do the work in the first place. Right, Ultimately, 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.000 we have to get better if you are as a city. 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.400 I keep saying this over and over again to you. 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.520 I've said it to them personally. I had them on 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.759 their offices yesterday as the snow's coming down, and I 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.560 was like, why are we not showing everybody what we're 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.359 doing because we've put in a lot of work, we 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.680 were ready for this. We've knocked it out of the ballpark. 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:43.279 I think you'd be blown away. If you meet Mark, 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:44.400 you know, when you get a chance to get him 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.640 audio to talk about the work he does for public services, 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:49.879 to make sure that we are ready. But then when 0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.319 you're right, when we missed the lowest the lay ups 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.799 to say, hey, it's the first snowfall of the years, 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.759 let's see where the free treatments are. How do you 0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.359 know what are we doing. Let's show you with our 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.680 snowpous look like. Let's show you what the tracker looks like. 0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.239 We did hype it up a lot. We weren't ready 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.879 to show off shiny new toys. How lets people play 0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.560 with them? And I think we can do better at that. Yeah, 0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.279 but I also think that that's a pr issue and 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.320 the real problem of making sure people get safely to 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.640 it from work. We actually did great on it, and 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.200 the only complaint you've had so far was take County 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.640 Warren County, which I'm gonna take the rare moment to 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.279 deal say. It wasn't the city Cincinnati that failed on 0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:25.680 that part. 0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.840 Yeah it was. I mean, it wasn't a horrific event 0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:30.480 by any means. It was a little bit of snow yesterday, 0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.080 but a good test I think for the system and 0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.439 it seems like, you know, and I think it's also 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.960 unfair all the people you mentioned Seth is like everyone 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.080 will blame them and go, well, you guys screwed this up. No, 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.360 we did our jobs. It was just a lack of communication. 0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.520 And it hasn't been easier. It's never been easier in 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.960 our lifetime. Is only going to get easier to get 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.439 this information through social even a social media, hell, even 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.400 on the web page itself, put say hey, listen, we 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.680 pre treated the roads. Here's what if you're looking for plows, 0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:56.799 here's why at least explain it to be we're going 0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.040 to that website. And I think that is also so 0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.520 quite honestly a systemic problem for the city because it's 0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.480 not just this which is relatively minor. Let's face it, 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.400 I'm trying to make a big deal out of something minor. 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.200 But I think it's also emblematic the whole problem is 0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:13.759 is I mean, look at the police department, lack of 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.479 communication from the Mayor's office when it came to Chief 0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:20.520 Fiji and the crime and only recognizing the good things 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.160 and the appearance that aftabs only there for ribbon cuttings 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.040 and the like. Ni he won re election handily, there's 0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.239 no debating that. But the problem has always been communication 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.400 with the City of Cincinnati, and I just don't know 0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:32.600 why we're so bad at it. 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.680 I wish I had an answer on that, And again, 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.839 I think it's a cultural issue. I think it's part 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.759 of the form of government that we have. There's an expectation, 0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:46.160 I think from the citizenry that the answers come from 0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:50.239 the politicians, and so the administrative side has taken the 0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:52.360 philosophy of like, we're going to get the problems solved, 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.319 all of the politicians to be the politicians and go 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.000 do the marketing APR well, with all due respect, I 0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.399 mean economic development guys. I'm not a PR guy. I'm 0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:00.759 not a guy who know how to put you know. 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:05.600 I can find really hilarious means on Instagram them and 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.040 so I think that's where the disconnect is. And I 0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.759 think part of the job of the politicians and conversations 0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:12.680 that you and I are having here and that I 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.080 had yesterday, is to say to the administration, like, the 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:18.400 job's not done if you're not communicating it to the public, 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.319 because you have an equal responsibility to the public to 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.200 tell them what you've done to showcase it and frankly, 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.080 be proud of the work you did, because in this case, 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.280 you know this is literally and you have a listener 0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:30.880 that has sent me a letter almost every time I 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:34.120 have come on here about the sell plops the situation, saying, 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:36.640 Julius will never solve this problem because for fifty plus 0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.320 years we haven't solved the problem. Scott then keep presenting 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.000 like we solved it, but we haven't solved it. And 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:42.960 this time they've put in a lot of time and effort, 0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:45.279 and and I've seen the work that they put into it. 0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.759 Let's go, let's go showcase it. Let's go show it 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.279 off and brag about it. Let's let's let you see 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.200 how much we fre treated the streets. Let's just let 0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.120 you see how we change the beat tooth that we're 0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:56.840 using to be able to make sure that we're actually 0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.440 aggresed up on it so that yesterday it doesn't go across. 0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:02.319 And all we're complaining about is the snowpile tractor wasn't 0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.560 on and working, and we they communicate about that. Right, 0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:06.920 that's actually a win, but it's not framed as a 0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:08.560 win because we're not doing a good job of talking 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.000 about it and we have to continue to push the administration. 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:13.440 We have to continue to push the city to have 0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:16.040 that expectation that there are a lot of cities that 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:17.840 are doing a really great job on how they communicate 0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.239 their work and their success, which makes people feel more 0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:24.400 confident city, because right now we have to recognize that 0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.640 for decades we have failed in some of these areas, 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:28.879 and now we have to earn your trust back. It's 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.040 not just about saying like trust me on stuff walls, right, 0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.719 It's about saying trust me, and by the way, go 0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:34.520 look at yourself. 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.040 And the thing is too you know, it's a young, vibrant, 0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.440 democratic led city and so you've got a lot of 0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.920 young people in this administration, and that seems like an 0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.080 easy thing to fix relative to you know, get a 0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.839 and maybe not an influencer per se, but someone who 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.960 is knowledgeable in social media and have them putting videos together, 0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.040 put it out on social You know, how we're changing 0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.759 the beach juice recipe and all that. That seems relativelyazy, 0:42:58.800 --> 0:42:59.920 and I know other cities do it. 0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:03.480 Yeah, I mean I would think so too. Again, I'm 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.160 not a pr expert, so I don't want to be 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:07.560 over here saying exactly how it is. But I agree 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.840 and I'm just as frustrated that we don't do a 0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.160 better job at our victory left. And I hope the 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:15.200 message that they hear here is we want to celebrate you. 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:16.880 People want to talk about it. If people want to 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.920 feel to talk about what's actually positively happened in the city, 0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.439 you get the absence of talking about the positive things 0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.279 that we do because we just expect you're going to 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:25.880 pick it up. You're only going to talk about the 0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.360 negative things. And when the negative things happen, it feels 0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.279 like that's all that's happening in the City of Cincinnati. 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.399 That's not the case. We have a lot of things 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.560 that we should be very proud of, but we should 0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:36.400 be talking about them outside of the month. Leave us 0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:38.440 to an election, because we do some really great work 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.400 at the City of Cincinnati. There are great people that 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.840 are dedicating their lives to it. Let's talk about it, 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:44.879 let's celebrate it, and we don't do a good job 0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:45.080 on that. 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:45.839 You need to be more. 0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:48.080 We need to be more like Trump for God takes 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.000 and break your arm, pant yourself on your back. 0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.320 That's that's one way to do it. I mean again, 0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:56.960 I don't even run my social media. So I'm really 0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:58.640 not wanting to criticize it too. 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.960 Hard on this too much, you know, but there is. 0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.680 A point to say. You know, again, we literally had 0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.200 the snowfall yesterday. This is this is an easy way 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.719 up to celebrate earlier it is. I'm glad to get 0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:12.600 the chance to talk about it, but I wish that 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:13.840 we did more to celebrate. 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:15.800 Wait, we had some calls in our newsroom about it, 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.719 and it wasn't about the streetsman, It's like, why isn't 0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.160 the snowplot tracker working? And people were more mad about 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.440 the lack of communication. That was because the streets were 0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:25.600 relatively okay. They weren't like, you know, people couldn't get 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:26.880 up the cut in the hill, you know, the typical 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:28.120 things we've seen and we get a lot of snow. 0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.120 It was more like, you guys, you touted this thing, 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.640 you spent the money, you did the whole contest for it, 0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.440 and then it's a nothing burger when we actually had 0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.160 a little snow. I think people just wanted to see it. 0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:40.479 To your point, and on the communication thing, I'll point 0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:43.920 this out too, is and this is just another example 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.520 of okay, so interim chief. Henny is the interim chief. 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:50.280 We're going to get a new public information officer for CPD, 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.160 which I think is needed. Uh, They're had full time 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.960 squat officers, all watches there, the crime center hours have 0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.120 been extended, and all these other things that Henny's doing. 0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:02.600 But back to this, he's the interim chief or is 0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.040 he the actual chief at this point? I mean interims 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.439 generally hold on and not don't do anything until someone 0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:09.880 else comes in and officially becomes chief and they put 0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.120 their stamp on it. If Terry Thigi is still the 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:15.279 chief technically, why is he making all these changes again? 0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:22.200 Communication, Yes, I mean very much so. I think that's 0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.640 a unique situation. I figured he pop on my office 0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.880 yesterday talking about this one of your colleagues, Scott. But 0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:31.480 I do think that's a unique situation in the sense 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:35.880 that interim Chief Heny has inherited a situation where we 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.200 have a public safety crisis that we've been trying to 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.200 get our hands wrapped around. I think the worst thing 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:41.840 we could do is just put it in rom in 0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:45.279 there and not try what their ideas are. And he 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.279 has great support from the police Department, so I have 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.160 great confidence ideas he's putting forward or their suggestions for 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.719 how they can solve this. But to your point, we 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.160 do need to communicate that way. We need to have 0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:57.560 the press for a while, we need to have the 0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:01.480 introduction to the community, because as a minimum for the contract, 0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:03.239 the investigation is going to go to the end of 0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:05.000 this year, so he's going to be the inner in 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:07.000 police chief for at least two months, and that is 0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.840 not an instant insignificant amount of time. They're very busy 0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:12.160 period in Cincinnati, Like, yeah, how do we do better 0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.800 at communicating and making sure people feel comfortable with him, 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.239 whether that's just the short term or long term, and 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.080 make sure they're comfortable with the decisions he's making. I 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.240 do think you're spot on. A lot of the problems 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:26.640 that we experienced this summer could have maybe been a 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:30.040 little bit more mitigated if we communicated better. And I've 0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:31.719 said that that's why one of the reasons I come 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.920 on here. Yeah, we just have to keep challenging it 0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.000 to say, hey, we can do better on that. Because 0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.400 we challenged the snow situations, we said we could do 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.799 better on that, and look, they did better on that. 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:44.160 And as I said to you last week, my job 0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:45.880 is that you guys never even know my name because 0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:49.080 things are going so smoothly and so yesterday, I think 0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:52.239 things went smoothly enough that we're complaining about communication. That's 0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:53.040 a great problem to have. 0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:55.640 Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess I get what you're 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.480 saying is, hey, the plows aren't running and so, but 0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.080 if you're treating streets, you put a you know, the 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.920 plows that had the assault on them. Because actually, for 0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:04.839 a minute it was they were on and we were 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:07.120 watching it early on in the morning and said, okay, 0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:09.239 there's only two streets that I don't know. It was 0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:10.880 like seven o'clock that had been done, and then you 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:12.840 switched it off, and I went, wow, wonder for that 0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:16.719 having problems with the system or I couldn't put it together. Now, 0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:18.759 what you're saying makes sense because if you had two 0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:21.000 trucks out there that were just assulting the trouble spots, 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.920 that now makes sense in retrospect. But if I'm a taxpayer, 0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:28.080 if I'm a property or you know, citizen of Cincinnati, 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:29.960 I look at it and go, what the hell are 0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.600 they doing here? Just like the breakdown and communication, we 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.040 just need to I know, we've been talking about doing better, 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.840 But it seems like with the police department getting a 0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:40.759 new public information officer, it seems like the city needs 0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.439 a little bit more that someone to handle the communications. 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:47.160 And maybe it's a departmental thing. Maybe streets and bridges 0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.719 and the street department needs someone to handle all that's 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:51.719 up on social media. Not that we want to spend 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:56.239 more money, but communication's key, and it really undermines all 0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.280 the hard work that behind the scenes that the city's 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.280 been doing stuff well well. 0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.320 I mean, we have a small but mighty team handling 0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.799 communications at the City of Cincinnati, and I don't think 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:08.360 it s fie overlooked is that they are putting entriagy 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:14.000 in a lot of situations constantly. And so I think, again, communications, 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:16.160 you know, there's a strategy to it some of it. 0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.520 You know, you can choose one way and then you're 0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:20.839 always wrong and should go the other way. I think 0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.080 what we're talking about here is, you know, how do 0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:24.960 we get strategic about some of these victories and talk 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.680 and talk that way. And part of that is, let's 0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.520 just you know, we just have to encourage them like that. 0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:32.000 The area that I think would be very helpful to 0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:34.120 be engaged in that doesn't mean that they're not doing 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.080 a good job, but they are a small but mighty 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.600 team here. To your point, we're not spending a lot 0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.560 of money on communications in the city. Maybe we need 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.279 to beat that up. Maybe that is a conversation we 0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:45.080 need to have. But those who are working on it 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:47.600 deserve the kudos for putting on a lot of fires 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.040 constantly throughout the day. There's a lot of Scott clones 0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:51.840 in the city trying to get information from the city. 0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.120 Yeah. Yeah, I'll leave it at that. He is a 0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.080 council member of a real exs Seth Walsh on the 0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:59.280 Scott Sloane Show on seven hundred ww aka mister plow 0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:03.120 and mister Development. It was good to have you back. 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:04.919 But I'm glad you I'm glad you won your seat. 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:07.839 Well, I appreciate it, Scott, thank you too, late, all right. 0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.080 Appreciate it. Thanks so much. Hopefully got some answers there. 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.040 And uh, you know, I didn't drive in the city yesterday, 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:13.880 but maybe you did. And how did they do? By 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:15.759 the way, if you're a you're driving in the city 0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:18.560 yesterday compared to maybe years past. Granted to say, very 0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.200 small sample sizing, a little bit of snow, But how 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.399 did it all work outside of the snowplow Tracker app 0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:26.320 five one, three, seven four nine, seven thousand eight or 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:28.239 the Big one talk back on the iHeart Radio app. 0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.439 We'll do that next right after news on seven hundred 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:37.960 WW Scott's floan, I'm his veterans Dave. Thanks to you 0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:44.560 if you served. I've just had Seth Walsh on Counselman 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.840 talking about the snowplot. It was it's not controversial or 0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.520 anything like that, like here we go again. It's more like, 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:54.359 you know, unforced errors. We went to this whole thing 0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:56.640 a year ago with the bridge fire and the lack 0:49:56.680 --> 0:50:00.000 of communication with traffic and transported surface you couldn't get 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.279 people out there directing traffic for a little bit, to 0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.440 get people out of parking garages and surface lots so 0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:06.440 they could get home in less than two or three hours. 0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:10.200 And they just simply it was it was ignored because 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.440 it was inconvenience and I don't know was it on 0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:16.680 their radar? Okay, you know, I think this story was 0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:19.120 that they were still lamenting the election loss by the way, 0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:21.600 which I don't doesn't really affect you in the immediate 0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.359 short terminal somewhat long term future, but short term virtue. Okay, 0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:27.719 we still got around the city and you know it 0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:30.879 was neglected after the bridge fire. Sure get that and 0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:33.160 you get learned from that. Okay, Well, then we have 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.120 the snow event and the streets aren't plowed. There are 0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:37.560 people and even the city manager said, or maybe it 0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:40.960 was the individual in charge of plowing and said, listen, 0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:43.879 our plows are broken, we don't know enough of them, 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:46.880 and some streets are not going to get plowed. Not 0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:50.960 a great message. And I absolutely have you made progress 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:54.120 since then with people like Seth Walsh and others on 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:56.680 council that have taken it upon themselves and make this 0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.080 their cause. So much so he used this during his 0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:03.000 re election campaign just a few weeks ago, that we're 0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:04.480 going to get this thing turned around, and they did. 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:06.319 You know, I was reading some of this about during 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:07.960 the break here, and some of the things he brought 0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:10.359 up are true. You know, we improved services, has got 0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:12.800 new managers and equipment, the fleets being fixed, are devoted 0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:14.680 money to it. We're taking it seriously. Some of the 0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:17.880 potholes filled a hell of a lot of potholes in 0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:20.799 the last year. Okay, awesome, you kind of need to 0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:23.440 do a victory lap and it congratulates your So I 0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:25.839 was joking about the Trump thing, but he's really good 0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:27.840 at that and taking credit for things that he doesn't 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.520 even do. For that matter, or just as we'll get 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:33.960 into a second ignoring the truth in reality. But I 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:35.719 think you also have to do that. I mean, that 0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:39.360 makes him beloved by many people and supportive that he 0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:42.480 is getting the message out there. Whether you agree disagree 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:45.040 with her. It's not true at all yet to be told. 0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:47.640 But you've got to self promote to some degree. And 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:49.920 I think that's solely lacking here. It's just communication. We 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.200 live in an era and now where everyone is a brand, 0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.360 everyone self promotes. That is the whole purpose now of 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.279 social media. Everyone talks about how great everything is in 0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:01.560 their life, having the greatest experiences, and everything's going to 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:04.520 be documented and nothing really bad is on. It's all 0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:07.960 the good stuff, which of course adds to our national 0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:10.080 handwringing and thinking we're well, everyone else is having a 0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:12.080 good time, why am I not? Well, it's because they're 0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.120 just putting the good stuff out there. That's all you're seeing. 0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:16.680 And the algorithms feed all this, and that's why a 0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.640 lot of people are miserable these days. But you can 0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.759 also use that to get the word out. How hard 0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:24.880 it would have been to just simply say, look, we 0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:27.600 only use this when the plows our blades are hitting 0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:30.200 the ground. If we get a dusting of snow, yeah 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.960 we're going to treat the roads. Just say that, you know, 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.040 because you hype this whole thing up. We're having this 0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.960 big contest and there's a prize, and if you come 0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.640 up with a way to get the word out to 0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:42.400 people that were on top of the street thing. I 0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:45.719 mean that. I thought it was a good initiative in crowdsourcing. 0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:48.719 Religion costs all that much. You got the companies to 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:50.720 kick some money in and help out. Okay, great, awesome, 0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:52.680 you crowdsourced it and somebody came up with a solution 0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:55.640 to it. Yeah, that's that's our capitalistic system at best. 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:55.920 Right. 0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:57.640 There are a lot of people out there that are 0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:00.160 vying for in this case, compensation which have been a 0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:06.279 new set of tires I think. And so somebody won 0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:10.240 the contest, they got the gift certificate and everybody wins. Awesome, 0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:12.960 And just you know, if it's if it only uses 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:14.600 you're really gonna use it when the when the blades 0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:16.399 hit the ground, when there's enough snow to plow it. 0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.200 And you know, when people go to the website expecting 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:21.200 to find information out, you should just simply put that 0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.720 at the top, going, Hey, by the way, we're treating 0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:26.280 the roads, but we're not tracking it. If there's a problem, 0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:28.360 you know, here's a click on this link or something 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.760 along those lines, or you know, send us a message 0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.840 and we'll get after it, or just simply turn it 0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:35.960 on and let us see where the trucks are. Kind 0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:40.319 of cool technology. It seems seems kind of easy. But 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.200 communication has been a huge issue for city Hall and 0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:46.520 this administration in particular. And when you when you do 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:48.960 something well, you probably should celebrate that or at least 0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:50.520 get the word out, Hey, this is what we're doing. 0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:53.480 Just communicate it. Just communicate it. Not that hard, not 0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:55.000 that hard. And this is I think it's a good 0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:57.640 test for the winter months coming up, so we'll see 0:53:57.680 --> 0:53:59.439 how well all this stuff works when it all gets 0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:01.960 put together, actually gets turned on. Although I would think 0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:04.000 that this would be a kind of a nice little 0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:06.879 test tour, wouldn't it kind of a soft launch if 0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:10.960 you will. Nonetheless, that is behind us and again, you know, 0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.000 it's just a light dusting snow, nothing to get too 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.759 worked up about. But plenty of people had reached out 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:16.960 to us saying, do you know what the hell is 0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:19.120 going on with this website? And that's why I reached 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:22.120 out to council Member Walsh this morning to talk about 0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:27.120 it on seven hundred WLW. What else is going on 0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:34.839 on this veteran's day? Yeah, I did have this. Yeah, 0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:36.799 the President has been talking and you know, back to 0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:40.560 the soft congrigil congratulatory nature of this, and you know, 0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:42.879 I totally understand. He's, as I said, really really good 0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:46.359 at it. He was discussing the issue of affordabilities making 0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:50.080 the rounds after Democrats won the state and some local 0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:52.200 allowed number of local election did really well on Tuesday, 0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:57.000 as usually is the case these off primary elections and 0:54:57.000 --> 0:55:00.480 the like, you know, off off not a every four 0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:02.200 years we get a huge turnout and then the off 0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:05.359 years not so much. Campaign on the cost of living, right, 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:07.920 the cost of it. This is all about affordability. The 0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:10.360 referendum for this cycle is going to be affordability. And 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.520 he said that's not true. As a con job, and 0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:16.480 I've been really successful in lowing prices, and you know, 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.000 you could have just said, hey, listen, we were much 0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:21.239 much worse under Biden. We had a forty year high 0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:23.920 under Biden, it was like over nine percent inflation. That 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:27.640 number has come down since I've taken office. I actually 0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:29.719 started a little bit before he took office, just maybe 0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:32.000 a couple of weeks before. But still you could go, hey, listen, 0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:35.560 the election, I want election. Great, it's shifting other way. 0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:37.160 It's going to take a while. You could just believe 0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:39.640 that that. But you know, coming out and saying that 0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:42.799 prices have fallen since he's coming back in office is 0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:45.960 not really helpful. It's, you know, saying everything is down, 0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:49.399 everything's way down. The prices under the Trump administration done substantially. 0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:53.160 Inflation is almost non existent. You know, I think you 0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:55.879 can do that. I think it's a good strategy if 0:55:55.920 --> 0:56:00.720 the president is dealing with intangibles like tray or something 0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:02.799 like that. Yeah, Like, I don't really know how the 0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:04.440 tariffs are work in. I know it's adding to the 0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:07.319 cost right now, but you can talk about getting money back, 0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:09.640 some two hundred billion dollars back in taxes, and that's 0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:11.640 the Supreme Court's debating that right now. As a matter 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:16.480 of fact. But the thing is this is measurable. It's 0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:20.840 measured by you. If you're going to the store and 0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:25.120 you're paying more, you don't feel these alleged cuts, then 0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:28.239 it's more. I don't know what. I don't think he's 0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.360 looking at any numbers. I just think he's as figures. 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:32.319 It's like true social If he says it, people will 0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:33.840 believe it. I'm sure there are plenty of people to 0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:36.799 believe it. And there's plenty of things that don't get 0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:39.239 reported because he's Trump one hundred percent on that. But 0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.360 in this case, it's measurable by you, and this is 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:44.239 just a battle that I you know, you could be 0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:46.480 the biggest MAGA Trump support in the world. To look 0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:49.279 at it going, Yeah, I don't think the prices are 0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:51.600 coming down. You know, if prices are coming down, you 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:54.320 know how much money you have in your budget. Inflation 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.560 has accelerated the three percent year over year inflation has 0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:00.880 increased for about what five consecutive months now, and prices 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:03.360 where now one point seven percent higher is at Brank 0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:05.560 at the bank. But you know when you hear stories 0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:09.000 about people who can't afford their mortgage because property taxes 0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:11.799 are going up around us. You know, the margins are 0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:14.440 pretty thin, so one and a half percent it's something. 0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:17.760 It's something. And if they're higher this year than they 0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:19.960 were in January, three percent higher than they were a 0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:23.760 year ago, then yeah, we're feeling that grocery prices are up. 0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:28.600 And it's not just beef. It's a number of important products. 0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:31.600 Grocery product get more expensive. I look at it and go, okay, well, 0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:33.680 what's P and G doing. They're in Kroger. They're laying 0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:37.200 people off. Why people are buying less or people are 0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:39.440 buying tide but they're buying less of it and somehow 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:43.040 really packing that washer and get there. I'm going to 0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:45.520 make sure that sucker is full to the top before 0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:46.760 I put a tide pod in there. 0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:47.120 Yeah. 0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:51.160 I get it. I get it. And I remember when 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:53.360 Biden did this, and I poked holes in the theory 0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:57.160 that when Biden was saying, okay, remember the Congression Democrats 0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:00.880 we're screaming about as prices went up, that there's a 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:05.160 collusion of fixed prices here. This is about food producers 0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:07.600 and they're gouging. Remember the whole gouging thing and shrink 0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:10.640 flesh and gouging. We're gouging we're gouging. People are getting gouged. 0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:14.800 I'm hearing so much of that anymore. Why is that, Well, 0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.760 because it wasn't necessarily true. I mean, shrink flation has 0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.160 been around certainly. If you look at that little, I 0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:23.920 don't know bag of Doritos, for example, they just decreased 0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:25.400 the product and put a little more air in it. 0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:27.560 But they've been doing that since like the beginning of 0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:30.960 packaged foods. That's nothing new. Look at all, the air 0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:32.440 we get it, while the air has to do more 0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:35.560 settling and at least having a few chips that aren't 0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:38.680 completely smashed at the bottom of bag. That's more about 0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:40.800 packaging and protecting the product. That's like, you know, the 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:43.240 air cushions the chips. So, yeah, there's a lot of 0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:45.080 air in the bag for a reason. You've filled all 0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:47.120 the way to the top. And actually I've talked to 0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:48.720 extras before about this, said, yeah, if you filled it 0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:50.560 all the way up to the brim and we tried 0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:52.439 to seal it, basically by the time you got it, 0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:55.320 it would be a bag of dust. It's just works. 0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:58.360 They've tried. But there's a reason why there's so much 0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:00.920 air in a bag of chips and yeah, some of 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:03.480 these packages. Okay, it's went from three point eight to 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:06.720 three point six ounces and my little tiny self serving 0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:09.240 Oh yeah, there's like there's like four. It's like the airlines. 0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:10.720 You know, you go in tow youreline, get a bag 0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:12.400 of you would to like a bag of pretzel. Sure, 0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:15.640 and there are two like mini pretzels in there. Why 0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:18.760 even put this in the package? You just like throw it. 0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:20.880 Feed me like I'm a I don't like a carp 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.640 at King's Island. You get the little put the twenty 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:25.520 five cents and the fifty cents and get a handful 0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:28.240 of food. Just stick my mouth open like a carp 0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:34.000 feed me in that little river. But yeah, I get. 0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:35.960 You know, shrinkflation, it is a thing. But it's not 0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:38.960 like some conspiracy. They don't want to raise prices because 0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:40.400 you'll buy less of it, so we keep the price 0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:42.920 the same and give you less. That's how we get 0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.160 around it. It's really the same thing. You're not paying 0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:49.320 more for less, you're paying the same plan for less. 0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:53.040 Makes sense. But the test of this whole thing for 0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:55.240 you and your personal budget. Now, some people don't feel 0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.720 it at all. I mean, hell, when I go in 0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:00.440 and I think I'm doing. Okay. I go into Costco 1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:03.640 of all places, and I look at ground beef and go, yeah, 1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:05.440 I'm passing on. I'm not buying. I'm not spend that 1:00:05.520 --> 1:00:07.000 kind of money with some ground beef, man, And that's 1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:10.000 Costco price is really really good, like at the regular 1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:12.520 grocery store. It's like I'm doing. I'll be honest with them, 1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:15.760 cooking more chicken thighs like chicken brass wings are crazy 1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:18.160 occasionally looks like a treat now, and it should be 1:00:18.200 --> 1:00:20.880 anyway at my age, Let's face it, I can't can't 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:22.880 crush wings and pizza and burgers like I used to, 1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:26.120 nor should I. So yeah, chicken thies are pretty damn good. 1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:28.480 They're like bigger chicken wings, and they're a lot cheaper, 1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:34.520 so you buy some of that stuff instead. But you know, 1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:37.240 the test for me would be, and for you would be, 1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:40.560 instead of wearing your political hat and agreeing with everything 1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:43.120 going all right, if all the prices are down and 1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:46.040 stuff like you claim, then why do you want to 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:50.600 give us all two thousand dollars in relief from the tariffs, 1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:53.960 which to me is silly because it's a we just 1:00:54.040 --> 1:00:55.880 keep borrowing more money to give it away. It's more 1:00:56.320 --> 1:00:58.240 it's subsidy in a different form. You always railed them 1:00:58.240 --> 1:01:00.760 to Democrats and subsidy, and you know, look at healthcare. 1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:02.160 I had Greg Landsman on the first start. If you 1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:04.520 miss that's in the podcast. I'll follow the show here 1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:07.840 on seven hundred WWVD iHeartRadio app and you can also 1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:09.240 stream the show where we are too as well, but 1:01:09.280 --> 1:01:11.360 download the podcast. So first I had a good discussion, 1:01:12.560 --> 1:01:14.160 and you know the knock I have with him and 1:01:14.440 --> 1:01:16.640 Democrats is well, it's all about band aids. It's all 1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:21.280 about subsidy. This whole shutdown was about them going okay, 1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:23.200 well we need to subsidize people more for their healthcare. 1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:25.640 It's too expensive affordable care. It's not affordable if you're 1:01:25.640 --> 1:01:29.480 giving people subsidies. Affordability means you're reducing the cost, getting 1:01:29.560 --> 1:01:31.280 rid of all the red tape, all the bs, all 1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:36.240 the nonsense that drive costs up. Okay, you don't affordability 1:01:36.320 --> 1:01:39.040 isn't taking other money and moving it to give it 1:01:39.080 --> 1:01:41.320 to people who can't afford healthcare. And I'm not saying, 1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:43.840 you know, we should just ignore those people. That's a 1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:46.560 tragedy in out of itself. If all these things expire 1:01:47.640 --> 1:01:49.680 where you canna needt your health care. That's a problem 1:01:49.680 --> 1:01:52.800 for twenty two million Americans. We know these are the rules. 1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:55.800 Both Democrats and Republicans came up with and set this 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:57.680 whole thing up and have been doing it for a 1:01:57.720 --> 1:02:00.280 long time. I don't think it's entirely fair to pull 1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:01.880 the carpet on our fee bill. Go okay, well you're 1:02:02.000 --> 1:02:04.040 it's three hundred percent of good luck with that. How 1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:06.760 about just doing it temporarily and saying, okay, we've got 1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:08.880 I don't know, two years to come up with a 1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:12.520 solution of health care, you know, whether it's a private 1:02:13.120 --> 1:02:16.960 sector involvement or getting rid of all the subsidy and insurance. 1:02:17.040 --> 1:02:19.240 And I'm the simplest thing to me, I've said a 1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:21.880 million times, is just getting rid of it. To your 1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:25.640 employer can no longer offer healthcare. We are literally hamstering 1:02:25.680 --> 1:02:28.280 this gig economy where so many people work so many 1:02:28.280 --> 1:02:32.400 different jobs, and none of those jobs offer healthcare. You know, 1:02:32.440 --> 1:02:34.280 if you're out in the cry is and I hear 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:35.960 this from older people is like, well just go get 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:39.920 a job. Well, okay, but bigger companies can offer healthcare benefits. 1:02:40.360 --> 1:02:42.920 The engine that drives America is business, but in particular 1:02:42.960 --> 1:02:45.640 small business, like eight out of ten businesses or small businesses, 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:48.240 fewer and fewer in fear of those small businesses can 1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:52.280 afford to give health care to their employees. And we also, 1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:54.080 as I mentioned, live in a gig economy where people 1:02:54.120 --> 1:02:56.920 are doing different hustles, right you, maybe it's door dash 1:02:57.040 --> 1:02:58.840 or maybe you're delivering, you're doing this, I got a 1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:01.960 bunch of part time jobs and okay, great, and you 1:03:02.000 --> 1:03:04.640 know what, that's awesome, But they don't offer health care. 1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:08.400 So buying your healthcare on the open market seems to 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:11.240 be the way to go. And if we have subsidized healthcare, 1:03:11.320 --> 1:03:13.680 that's bad because it's costing way more than it should. 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:16.120 Where we're boring that money, it seems to me the 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:18.320 easiest thing to do would be to simply say, Okay, 1:03:18.360 --> 1:03:20.840 if you're in this business, no more healthcare. You got 1:03:20.840 --> 1:03:22.240 to buy it in the free market, like you do 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:24.120 with all the other insurance you have in your life. 1:03:24.200 --> 1:03:27.000 And the savings we reap from all the compliance and 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:30.640 code all that nonsense can go to help those people 1:03:30.640 --> 1:03:33.120 who fall between the cracks, and you still have money 1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:35.920 left over to throw to the deficit. It's like an 1:03:35.920 --> 1:03:38.320 easy it's a slam dunk. But Democrats say, oh my god, 1:03:38.320 --> 1:03:40.800 all these people are getting thrown off by bad private 1:03:40.840 --> 1:03:43.800 business and the like, and it's just that's why're not 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:46.880 going to get anything done with this. But the idea 1:03:46.920 --> 1:03:49.640 is here. We give everybody two thousand dollars in relief checks. 1:03:50.560 --> 1:03:52.760 I thought I thought the prices were lower than they 1:03:52.800 --> 1:03:55.920 were when Biden was office. You you really can't have 1:03:56.000 --> 1:03:58.960 it both ways, but that's him. He just throw stuff 1:03:58.960 --> 1:04:00.720 at the wall. See what sticks. At some point, I 1:04:00.720 --> 1:04:03.919 think you look at it and go, I don't know. Yeah, 1:04:04.120 --> 1:04:06.200 maybe you're doing some good stuff here and there, And okay, 1:04:06.200 --> 1:04:08.120 I'll buy the terrafsh for a little bit longer I can. 1:04:08.480 --> 1:04:10.000 I can stand the pain for a while. We'll see 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:12.640 if we can get jobs back here and make everybody 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:15.400 rich again, as promised on the campaign trail. But right 1:04:15.440 --> 1:04:17.240 now I know that it costs a hell of a 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:18.920 lot to go to the grocery store. It costs a 1:04:18.960 --> 1:04:21.160 hell of a lot. Coming up on the show on 1:04:21.200 --> 1:04:24.160 seven hundred WW just a few minutes here it is 1:04:24.280 --> 1:04:27.360 Veterans Day. We'll talk to our buddy Steeve Baalsco from 1:04:27.760 --> 1:04:31.320 Claremont County Veterans Services on this day where a lot 1:04:31.360 --> 1:04:33.000 of people to flying the flag because you know Veterans 1:04:33.040 --> 1:04:34.320 Day and all that. I saw a lot of flags 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:37.080 actually driving this weekend. Seen a lot of people just 1:04:37.320 --> 1:04:39.640 having flags in the car, which is cool. Normally it 1:04:39.680 --> 1:04:42.160 was like around election Day or you know fourth of 1:04:42.200 --> 1:04:44.080 July you see somebody to pick up truck. But I 1:04:44.080 --> 1:04:46.160 saw a lot of at least a handful of cars 1:04:46.160 --> 1:04:48.160 this weekend with flags on, which I think is awesome 1:04:49.120 --> 1:04:51.400 and a way to show respect not only our country 1:04:51.520 --> 1:04:53.720 but to those veterans who serve. So we'll get more 1:04:53.720 --> 1:04:55.439 than that with Steve in just a few minutes here 1:04:55.640 --> 1:04:58.120 on seven hundred. But Adan Schaeffer is in at eleven 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:01.200 thirty five all Worth Financial. It is simply money to 1:05:01.240 --> 1:05:03.680 show heres at six o'clock on our sister station fifty 1:05:03.680 --> 1:05:05.800 five care see but the hull Worth Financial. He's here 1:05:05.800 --> 1:05:08.040 on Tuesday mornings talking about one of the things I'm 1:05:08.040 --> 1:05:10.320 going to get into is the fifty year mortgage with 1:05:10.400 --> 1:05:14.440 him in addition to the government shutdown allegedly ending and 1:05:14.480 --> 1:05:18.240 what that means, but also the fifty year mortgage proposal. 1:05:19.000 --> 1:05:20.920 And then speaking of the President, he offered this up. 1:05:21.080 --> 1:05:23.160 I don't have the make of that, you know, kind 1:05:23.160 --> 1:05:26.600 of leaning towards I mean, it doesn't make if you're 1:05:26.960 --> 1:05:29.360 if you can't afford a mortgage payment. Now it does 1:05:29.400 --> 1:05:32.560 get you own a house, which is a good thing. 1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:35.920 But I don't know at a fifty year rate, how 1:05:35.960 --> 1:05:37.920 do you build equity, because that's the key, you know, 1:05:38.120 --> 1:05:40.200 is building equities. Like I make my payments. I got 1:05:40.200 --> 1:05:43.360 my principle and interest. Okay, here's my interest payment, which 1:05:43.400 --> 1:05:45.360 is going to be huge, the principal very little, and 1:05:45.400 --> 1:05:48.400 even after five or ten years, how much equity will 1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:50.000 have in the house, You're not talking all that much. 1:05:50.040 --> 1:05:51.600 At some point you're gonna want to borrow on that 1:05:51.640 --> 1:05:53.720 equity or user to improve the house or whatever it is. 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:56.000 I just it seems like you're paying yourself in a corner. 1:05:56.480 --> 1:05:59.280 But in this age when credit card debt is a 1:05:59.400 --> 1:06:02.040 super high right down and is continue to go up. Hell, 1:06:02.120 --> 1:06:04.600 people are buying fast food on layaway for crying out lack. 1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:07.320 I don't know if that's a good thing or not. 1:06:07.360 --> 1:06:09.200 It gets more people in houses, it's good, it's good 1:06:09.240 --> 1:06:11.800 for you know, my wife's business for sure, being a 1:06:11.840 --> 1:06:15.720 real estate broker. But I wonder you know, with that debt, 1:06:15.720 --> 1:06:17.000 and you look at it's like how much am I 1:06:17.000 --> 1:06:18.840 paying an interest? How much am I haying? In principle? 1:06:19.360 --> 1:06:21.160 And that interest is going to kill the principal is 1:06:21.160 --> 1:06:24.080 the one that works for you, right, I'm not sure 1:06:25.440 --> 1:06:27.160 it's interesting. I don't know why you would also go 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:29.560 from you know, you get a fifteen or thirty year mortgage. 1:06:29.960 --> 1:06:31.600 I don't know how I went from thirty to fifty. 1:06:31.680 --> 1:06:37.200 Maybe a forty year mortgage, fifty year mortgage, of course 1:06:37.400 --> 1:06:40.600 I don't know older. I may refinance and get a 1:06:40.600 --> 1:06:42.280 fifty year mortgage out because I know I'm not going 1:06:42.360 --> 1:06:43.760 to live long enough to pay that son of a 1:06:43.800 --> 1:06:46.320 gun back. It's a U problem, not a ME problem, 1:06:46.680 --> 1:06:48.840 and not that long from now, you know what I'm saying. 1:06:49.200 --> 1:06:50.640 We'll get a time out and we got news on 1:06:50.640 --> 1:06:53.080 the way in just a few minutes, and when we return, 1:06:53.520 --> 1:06:56.840 we'll get into Veterans Day twenty twenty five, and then 1:06:56.880 --> 1:06:58.920 Andy Shaeffer here on the Scott Slan Show, I'm the 1:06:58.920 --> 1:07:01.120 Home the Best Bengals cover back at it after the 1:07:01.120 --> 1:07:03.400 week off and Joe Burrow by the way ready to 1:07:03.440 --> 1:07:05.560 go right around Thanksgiving? Is that a good idea or 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:07.640 bad idea. I'm not sure. It depends on these next 1:07:07.640 --> 1:07:10.880 couple of games. We'll see how it goes. I would 1:07:10.920 --> 1:07:12.320 say that if it doesn't look like you're going to 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:15.320 make the playoffs, you bring them back, You're risk wrecking 1:07:15.360 --> 1:07:18.320 next season as well. I'm kind of leaning on the 1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:20.560 side of being conservative. But you wonder how much juice 1:07:20.640 --> 1:07:22.760 Joe has and he says he wants to play. Is 1:07:22.760 --> 1:07:24.520 any going to tell him no? That's the big question. 1:07:24.560 --> 1:07:26.160 Seven hundred WDW, Cincinnati. 1:07:26.240 --> 1:07:27.920 I don't want to American. 1:07:29.320 --> 1:07:32.280 It's on seven hundred WLW on this eleventh day of 1:07:32.320 --> 1:07:35.880 November twenty twenty five. It is Veterans Day. Thank you 1:07:35.920 --> 1:07:38.320 to all who have served this wonderful country of ours. 1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:39.920 And granted there's a lot of people think it's not 1:07:39.920 --> 1:07:44.160 so wonderful anymore, but still the greatest experiment in the 1:07:44.200 --> 1:07:46.640 history of man coin I believe the United States of America. 1:07:46.720 --> 1:07:48.720 Can we do better? Hell yeah, we can always do better, 1:07:49.040 --> 1:07:53.800 continuous improvement, correct And on this Veterans' Day, we should 1:07:53.800 --> 1:07:55.840 all be flying the flag in front of our homes 1:07:55.880 --> 1:07:57.080 or whatever it might be. You'll see a lot of 1:07:57.120 --> 1:08:00.000 flags out because it is Veterans Day and this opportunity 1:08:00.280 --> 1:08:02.400 to thank a veteran, and I would thank that. Steve 1:08:02.440 --> 1:08:06.400 Balco from Claimout County Veteran Services on the show this 1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:08.680 morning on seven hundred WW. If you are flying that 1:08:08.760 --> 1:08:11.760 flag or whatever, you fly that flag often, I see it, Steve, 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:15.720 and I look at it and see like an image 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:18.400 of an individual. I saw Charlie Kirk flag the other 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:21.400 day of all things. And you know, if you're allegedly 1:08:21.439 --> 1:08:25.120 patriotic enough to fly the American flag, you should also 1:08:25.240 --> 1:08:28.840 then know that you can't do that. You are desecrating 1:08:28.880 --> 1:08:30.599 the flag, that you can't do. 1:08:30.600 --> 1:08:33.639 Those things to it, especially within the boundaries of these 1:08:33.680 --> 1:08:35.160 continental United States. 1:08:35.160 --> 1:08:38.040 Correct, correct, yeah, you're not. You can't alter the flag. 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:41.479 It's if someone did that with a Bible. What do 1:08:41.520 --> 1:08:42.559 you think the reaction would. 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:44.600 Be, Oh yeah, yeah, we'd be out with pitchforks and 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:46.120 torches and right yeah right. 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:48.000 So well we saw the Trump Bible and people lost 1:08:48.000 --> 1:08:50.760 their minds over that. Right with this, I don't know, 1:08:50.760 --> 1:08:52.479 he put his stuff in. It's like, okay, strying to 1:08:52.479 --> 1:08:55.040 make money off that, like the shoes. But people who 1:08:55.040 --> 1:08:57.360 are fought for this country even and will stand out 1:08:57.400 --> 1:09:00.880 there with the flag that's altered it drives me crazy. 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:04.320 It does. It does. Where's the due diligence and respect 1:09:04.520 --> 1:09:05.480 to that which. 1:09:05.320 --> 1:09:08.120 You're not a patriot, You're a self absorbed idiot if 1:09:08.160 --> 1:09:09.080 you're doing that right. 1:09:09.320 --> 1:09:12.160 And to realize the power of the United States flag 1:09:12.400 --> 1:09:17.920 in a global economy, every nation knows what the United 1:09:17.960 --> 1:09:21.280 States flag is, Yes, they can identify it. Yeah, they 1:09:21.320 --> 1:09:24.960 all want to become like Americans. As I used to 1:09:25.040 --> 1:09:28.120 tell my Marine Sloany when we will go overseas, this 1:09:28.360 --> 1:09:32.720 is your uh, your Dorothy tour, because Dorothy said it 1:09:32.800 --> 1:09:35.360 right when she clicked her heels and said, there's no 1:09:35.439 --> 1:09:37.479 place like that's a fact. 1:09:37.960 --> 1:09:40.400 I'll tell you what. And as I get older, you know, 1:09:40.439 --> 1:09:42.519 we travel a lot. When when I fly back to CBG, 1:09:42.680 --> 1:09:44.439 it really puts a lump in my throat to see, 1:09:44.560 --> 1:09:46.960 welcome to the United States of America. Right, How cool 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:50.720 is that it is? It's awesome. I was usually an 1:09:50.720 --> 1:09:53.280 event Folds of Honor, which I know you're familiar with, 1:09:53.320 --> 1:09:55.120 and we do a golf outing up at TPC in 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:56.720 Mainfield and they do a great job of this thing. 1:09:56.720 --> 1:09:58.760 We had a flying World War on airplanes we had 1:09:59.600 --> 1:10:01.560 you know, is just come into the whole thing and 1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:03.920 We had service members active and retired that were there 1:10:03.960 --> 1:10:05.720 that were honored, and it raises money for Folds of 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:08.559 Honor with Budweiser. And it's a wonderful event. And the 1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:11.000 coolest thing is too, is that we forgot about this 1:10:11.080 --> 1:10:13.280 is what when in folded American flag. Thirteen folds in 1:10:13.280 --> 1:10:16.439 that flag what each fold signifies. And they had whole 1:10:16.479 --> 1:10:18.800 display on that out there, and I had to write 1:10:18.800 --> 1:10:21.479 it down because I'd forgotten myself. But the first fold 1:10:21.520 --> 1:10:24.640 is life itself. Second fold is eternal life. Then veterans 1:10:24.920 --> 1:10:27.599 trusting in God, the difference between right and wrong, which 1:10:27.640 --> 1:10:30.320 we miss in this country. God and country. Tribute to 1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:33.559 our armed forces. The eighth fold honors mothers. The ninth 1:10:33.640 --> 1:10:36.080 ist were womanhood. The tenth folders for fathers who's given 1:10:36.120 --> 1:10:38.240 their sons and daughters to military service in their lives. 1:10:39.000 --> 1:10:43.040 The eleventh foldest were Hebrew Citizens for Jewish citizens. And 1:10:43.120 --> 1:10:45.599 the twelfth fold in that flag is for the fatherest 1:10:45.640 --> 1:10:47.760 on the Holy Spirit, and the thirteenth is in God 1:10:47.800 --> 1:10:50.559 we trust. As you present the flag to someone, all 1:10:50.560 --> 1:10:53.360 you see are the stars correct, representing of course the 1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:56.320 states verse thirteen original states, and so even the fold 1:10:56.400 --> 1:10:58.040 of a flag is significant. 1:10:58.040 --> 1:11:01.559 It's significant and even when prison emptying the flag to 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:06.880 the deceased family, the veterans deceased family, it is presented 1:11:07.000 --> 1:11:10.360 on behalf of the President of the United States, a 1:11:10.479 --> 1:11:15.840 grateful nation, and by the secretary of the branch of 1:11:15.960 --> 1:11:23.200 service that they serve from. It's delivered kneeling to the family. Yeah, Sony, 1:11:23.240 --> 1:11:25.360 I've done over two hundred and forty five funerals for Marines. 1:11:25.920 --> 1:11:26.599 I've done a lot. 1:11:27.240 --> 1:11:32.479 I can't tell you the amount of mothers that will 1:11:32.520 --> 1:11:40.000 hold your hand because you are the symbol of her 1:11:40.080 --> 1:11:42.320 loved one and they don't want to give it up 1:11:42.479 --> 1:11:46.000 if they want to stay in that moment. It's moving now. 1:11:46.000 --> 1:11:48.559 If you see any of these ceremonies, it gets emotional 1:11:48.600 --> 1:11:51.920 coming even get emotional right now. And we're talking about 1:11:52.080 --> 1:11:55.439 the flag and what it means because today is Veterans Day. 1:11:55.680 --> 1:11:57.840 The thing to me, Steve, is it pisses me off 1:11:57.840 --> 1:11:59.720 to know if I see someone mistreating or burning the 1:11:59.720 --> 1:12:01.880 flag right, dragging the flag on the ground or whatever. 1:12:02.400 --> 1:12:04.200 But at the same time as anger's I might be 1:12:05.360 --> 1:12:07.280 people disagree with me all the time and that's fine, 1:12:07.720 --> 1:12:11.240 which is another constitutional right. Is that what other country 1:12:11.240 --> 1:12:13.400 in the world. Are you allowed to desecrate the flag 1:12:14.040 --> 1:12:16.519 because it's a symbol and your freedoms allow you to 1:12:16.600 --> 1:12:20.519 desecrate that flag. It's the most paradoxical thing ever, is 1:12:20.360 --> 1:12:23.439 it is? Do you defend that as a veteran? 1:12:23.840 --> 1:12:25.120 I don't defend that as a veteran. 1:12:25.160 --> 1:12:27.880 No, I meant the idea that concept, right, just like 1:12:28.120 --> 1:12:30.080 you're allowed to do that, you shouldn't do that. But 1:12:30.120 --> 1:12:32.599 you're like, it's the paradox of American, of our country. 1:12:32.640 --> 1:12:34.240 We don't take ourselves seriously. It is. 1:12:34.439 --> 1:12:36.040 It is, but there are many who have shed their 1:12:36.040 --> 1:12:40.280 blood I know, so that to be therefore give it 1:12:40.280 --> 1:12:44.200 the respect it's due on the cost of lives spent for. 1:12:44.040 --> 1:12:47.160 It, Which makes sense because we have holidays like Memorial 1:12:47.240 --> 1:12:51.400 Day and Fourth of July that celebrate these things, and 1:12:51.439 --> 1:12:55.400 we turn into drunken idiots playing country music on boomboxes 1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:57.360 and have swimming pools and a three day weekend and 1:12:57.400 --> 1:12:59.320 all that, and we forget that the Memorial Day is 1:12:59.360 --> 1:13:01.360 the one to me is it's a solemn holiday, and 1:13:01.360 --> 1:13:04.240 we've turned that into now sales and the celebration going. 1:13:04.720 --> 1:13:06.200 People died for this holiday. 1:13:06.560 --> 1:13:09.599 When you go to Israel on their Memorial Day, they 1:13:09.640 --> 1:13:14.839 sound sirens and the whole nation stops, stands at attention 1:13:15.240 --> 1:13:19.200 and pays respect. Can you imagine the United States of 1:13:19.240 --> 1:13:22.920 America coming to a complete stop to pay respect a 1:13:22.920 --> 1:13:23.759 Memorial Day? 1:13:23.960 --> 1:13:27.040 No, because that's who we are. And that's the paradox, right. 1:13:27.280 --> 1:13:29.920 We find it's a certain to like, Hey, I'm having 1:13:29.960 --> 1:13:31.439 a car and I'm going to buy a new car 1:13:31.560 --> 1:13:34.040 right now because they're having a sale because people died 1:13:34.040 --> 1:13:36.519 in service of our country. What are we doing right? 1:13:36.840 --> 1:13:40.639 Right? Everything's turned into a capitalist which capitalism is great. 1:13:40.840 --> 1:13:46.040 However, when you start pushing the margins, you sit and 1:13:46.040 --> 1:13:48.240 think about it, it's like you scratch your go what 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:50.280 are we doing here? But that is the beauty of America. 1:13:50.400 --> 1:13:52.840 I think that that, in essence is why people want 1:13:52.840 --> 1:13:56.040 to come here is because of those freedoms that very 1:13:56.080 --> 1:13:57.840 few around the world enjoy. And you can talk about 1:13:57.880 --> 1:14:00.639 developed nations in Europe and all that, but by and large, 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:02.080 arrest of the world does not live like this. 1:14:02.280 --> 1:14:06.360 No, No, absolutely not, absolutely not. There is no place 1:14:06.439 --> 1:14:06.800 like home. 1:14:06.880 --> 1:14:09.160 The Taliban, by the way, just banned chess. Did you 1:14:09.160 --> 1:14:13.879 see that? No chess because it's immoral, Like what. 1:14:13.840 --> 1:14:17.679 Because you're taking over kings. The queen has a prenominant place. 1:14:18.160 --> 1:14:21.679 I suppose it is. Yeah, right, something. 1:14:21.479 --> 1:14:24.639 Interesting for you whose father served in the US Navy, correct, yes, 1:14:26.040 --> 1:14:30.439 do you know that there is a time where one 1:14:30.640 --> 1:14:36.080 flag has the privilege of flying above the United States flag? 1:14:37.200 --> 1:14:39.000 I knew this and I forgot it. What does it 1:14:39.040 --> 1:14:39.439 remind me? 1:14:40.080 --> 1:14:45.320 During worship services aboard a naval they'll fly the Christian 1:14:45.320 --> 1:14:47.040 flag above the national answer? 1:14:47.040 --> 1:14:49.960 That's right, yep, yeah, that's the only other time. That's 1:14:49.960 --> 1:14:52.160 the only the time it flies above correct, Godden Country 1:14:52.439 --> 1:14:57.200 in that order. That's right, right, yeah. Steve also from 1:14:57.600 --> 1:15:00.880 Claimont Tenny veteran services on this VET Trend's Day twenty 1:15:00.920 --> 1:15:03.880 twenty five, and we're talking about the symbol of that 1:15:04.040 --> 1:15:05.800 service and what they fought for, and that would be 1:15:06.160 --> 1:15:08.799 the flag veterans, and you'll see a lot of today 1:15:08.920 --> 1:15:12.800 is the American flag, and we're talking about what that 1:15:12.880 --> 1:15:14.599 means as Americans, because I want to forget we see 1:15:14.600 --> 1:15:18.200 the American flag. It's become ubiquitous on everything, uniforms, you know, 1:15:18.640 --> 1:15:21.960 football players, where it's on a helmet. In times when crisis, 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:23.840 when we feel the wolves at the door, we will 1:15:23.840 --> 1:15:26.040 all start wearing the American Flag nine eleven comes to mind, 1:15:26.040 --> 1:15:27.720 and like, and I think it's just so common that 1:15:27.720 --> 1:15:30.599 we've kind of forgotten the symbolism and really what it means. 1:15:30.840 --> 1:15:36.920 The vast, grandiose history of our United States flag, from 1:15:36.960 --> 1:15:42.200 the very hymn honoring the flag to what it represents 1:15:42.360 --> 1:15:48.160 flying foreign shores, bringing democracy to foreign countries that were 1:15:48.200 --> 1:15:52.840 locked down in different molds of politics. But yet there 1:15:52.880 --> 1:15:56.360 is something powerful when when you have four pillars of 1:15:56.400 --> 1:16:04.440 power for a country to see information, economic, and military. 1:16:05.360 --> 1:16:08.919 When the United States flag is flown off the shores 1:16:09.200 --> 1:16:13.519 or onshore a country, it brings the very persona of 1:16:13.680 --> 1:16:17.720 strength of the United States to those shores. It is 1:16:17.840 --> 1:16:21.719 actually a strength we have going forward to calm down 1:16:21.880 --> 1:16:27.000 enemies and to put a piece into a chaotic situation. 1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:30.160 Or it's kind of like your dad. You don't want 1:16:30.240 --> 1:16:31.280 dad coming home. 1:16:31.200 --> 1:16:31.600 Right right? 1:16:31.640 --> 1:16:31.800 Right? 1:16:31.840 --> 1:16:35.040 Yeah, I get it, Yeah, I get it. The other thing, too, 1:16:35.080 --> 1:16:37.280 is is a tattered flag, and I'm sure to think 1:16:37.280 --> 1:16:38.800 people will probably just take the flag and throw in 1:16:38.840 --> 1:16:41.920 the garbage, which is not You're not supposed. 1:16:41.520 --> 1:16:41.800 To do that. 1:16:41.880 --> 1:16:44.360 No, please don't, no, no, no, how do you properly 1:16:44.360 --> 1:16:47.000 get rid of a flag? So it's tattered, by the way, 1:16:47.200 --> 1:16:49.759 And when do we know it tattered? Means what exactly 1:16:49.800 --> 1:16:51.000 I mean? When when do we know it's time to 1:16:51.000 --> 1:16:51.960 retire fleg? Yeah? 1:16:52.000 --> 1:16:55.479 Absolutely, So as you look at a flag, it should 1:16:55.479 --> 1:16:59.920 be a whole seem to seem still tight when it's 1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:03.080 starts to tear, when it starts to fray, or frequently 1:17:03.120 --> 1:17:06.000 fly in adverse weather and it's whipping in the wind. 1:17:06.320 --> 1:17:09.040 And as she starts to tear or weather or even 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:13.519 become faded in an excessive amount. Is when you retire 1:17:13.560 --> 1:17:17.120 the flag, put up a new one. But then there's 1:17:17.120 --> 1:17:20.200 a way to dispose of the flag. And in that 1:17:20.360 --> 1:17:26.080 retirement ceremony, the description by law is that in a 1:17:26.240 --> 1:17:27.920 discreete service. 1:17:28.400 --> 1:17:28.960 And what was that? 1:17:29.000 --> 1:17:33.840 So in a private assembly, not in a grandiose situation 1:17:34.280 --> 1:17:36.600 in the four corners of your mall. It is in 1:17:36.640 --> 1:17:41.080 your backyard, in a small, little burned barrel. You burn 1:17:41.120 --> 1:17:45.320 the flag so it can't be used for adverse methods. Now, 1:17:45.520 --> 1:17:47.120 if you're like, well, I feel kind of guilty of 1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:50.840 doing that. The boy Scouts are taught a very ceremoniously 1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:55.559 procedure on how you retire a flag this way, and 1:17:55.600 --> 1:17:58.200 so call your local boy Scouts troops. I've got a 1:17:58.200 --> 1:18:01.840 flag I need to retire. Claremont County. We have a 1:18:01.840 --> 1:18:04.360 flag retirement box. You can put it in there, and 1:18:04.439 --> 1:18:08.040 we have organization veteran service organizations, Boy Scouts, there's quite 1:18:08.080 --> 1:18:10.920 a few that will take the tattered flags, and they're 1:18:10.960 --> 1:18:14.000 teaching the youth as well as adults. This is how 1:18:14.080 --> 1:18:16.479 you respect the flag at its end of life. 1:18:17.200 --> 1:18:19.840 I've done that before. Flags at my house. Yeah yeah, 1:18:19.920 --> 1:18:22.600 I know. You know, you fold the flag and a 1:18:22.600 --> 1:18:24.160 big ceremony, burn it right. 1:18:24.080 --> 1:18:27.639 And it's not a grandiose let's know how fireworks. Let's hey, 1:18:27.680 --> 1:18:28.080 look at me. 1:18:28.240 --> 1:18:30.960 Let's yeah, yeah, exactly, it's a whole it's a whole thing. 1:18:31.880 --> 1:18:34.720 Steve on there too. Okay, we flow the flag where 1:18:34.760 --> 1:18:37.120 we know how to dispose the flag. What else do 1:18:37.200 --> 1:18:39.280 people generally this when it comes to flag etiquette. 1:18:39.560 --> 1:18:43.479 Oh, you know in this nation of ours that is 1:18:43.800 --> 1:18:49.320 sports addicted. We start out every sport activity with the 1:18:49.439 --> 1:18:53.639 national anthem, and the proper etiquette for the national anthem 1:18:54.920 --> 1:18:57.880 is to get on your feet one if you can. 1:18:58.280 --> 1:19:00.479 If you are handicapped, if you were out and you 1:19:00.560 --> 1:19:03.559 don't have the strength, that's fine, follow step two. 1:19:03.760 --> 1:19:04.559 Step two is. 1:19:04.520 --> 1:19:07.240 There is a way to honor and salute the flag. 1:19:07.640 --> 1:19:11.360 Now for the average citizen, it is putting your hand 1:19:11.800 --> 1:19:14.880 over your heart, right hand over your left chest. That's 1:19:14.880 --> 1:19:19.320 how we salute the flag in civilian attire or by civilians. Men, 1:19:19.680 --> 1:19:22.559 we take off our hats out of respect. And then 1:19:23.040 --> 1:19:25.439 sometimes you're holding that hat with your right hand. That's fine. 1:19:25.479 --> 1:19:27.880 The hand still goes over the heart all while the 1:19:27.960 --> 1:19:31.639 national anthem is being sung. For ladies, it's a right 1:19:31.640 --> 1:19:35.880 hand over the heart. For those that are prior military, obviously, 1:19:35.920 --> 1:19:39.880 if they're in uniform, they're saluting the flag. Some military 1:19:40.000 --> 1:19:45.839 organizations Sloani, actually salute indoors. The Marines do not unless 1:19:46.160 --> 1:19:48.639 we're wearing what we call our cover. It's our hat, yes, 1:19:48.680 --> 1:19:51.280 which means we're under arms, we're carrying a weapon, or 1:19:51.560 --> 1:19:54.320 we're marching with the sword right, So we are under arms. 1:19:54.600 --> 1:19:56.960 We are therefore wearing our cover, and we will render 1:19:56.960 --> 1:19:59.960 a salute indoors. Other than that, there is no salution 1:20:00.040 --> 1:20:03.120 by Marines indoors. So we if you see us, we'll 1:20:03.120 --> 1:20:06.840 put our hand over our heart, whether in uniform, indoors 1:20:07.000 --> 1:20:11.320 or outside in civilian attire. Even as a retired marine myself, 1:20:11.520 --> 1:20:14.080 i salute with my right hand over my heart. I 1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:16.240 don't salute to my forehead as an average. 1:20:16.040 --> 1:20:18.800 Because you're not in uniform police officers, firefighters, you're in 1:20:18.920 --> 1:20:20.880 uniform undercover, then you salute. 1:20:20.920 --> 1:20:21.000 Now. 1:20:21.000 --> 1:20:23.559 I've seen and i've heard this debate too, that the 1:20:23.560 --> 1:20:25.559 proper etiquette is I don't know if it's for a guy, 1:20:25.920 --> 1:20:28.799 men and women, but you know, standing at attention and 1:20:29.400 --> 1:20:31.559 putting your hands behind your back and like in a 1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:33.960 parade rest kind of Well, that's what you call it. 1:20:34.080 --> 1:20:37.160 I've seen that too before, and I've heard there's a 1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:39.639 debate about which one is correct. Now, typically it's hand 1:20:39.640 --> 1:20:41.479 over the heart. I think that's the way to get 1:20:41.520 --> 1:20:42.719 a heart, which is a salute. 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:46.600 Standing at parade rest or at ease, which would be 1:20:46.640 --> 1:20:49.759 hands behind your back when you shuffle around, is really 1:20:49.960 --> 1:20:56.479 at a reduced comfort stance. Standing at attention is your 1:20:56.520 --> 1:21:00.920 maximum stance of respect. So to say we would stand 1:21:01.479 --> 1:21:04.000 at ease or hands behind the back or at parade 1:21:04.040 --> 1:21:07.559 rest is to mean nothing significant is occurring, not being 1:21:07.600 --> 1:21:08.400 given or rest. 1:21:08.439 --> 1:21:11.040 Because you've seen it both ways, and the correct way 1:21:11.120 --> 1:21:15.040 is handled with heart correct for citizens, got it? And 1:21:15.200 --> 1:21:16.880 just I mean, these are people are listening to go. 1:21:16.960 --> 1:21:19.280 You know, so, what's okay, I'm standing them at attention. 1:21:19.360 --> 1:21:21.360 I get that. But yeah, the whole point of this 1:21:21.479 --> 1:21:24.519 is to just reflect on the sacrifices made for what 1:21:24.560 --> 1:21:26.760 that flag means, and people like yourself will put their 1:21:26.800 --> 1:21:28.639 life on the line, in those who've given their life 1:21:28.800 --> 1:21:30.559 in defense of this country. It's a very small thing, 1:21:30.600 --> 1:21:32.639 but it's important. It's huge. 1:21:32.800 --> 1:21:36.639 It's the democracy of this nation is built around that flag. 1:21:37.200 --> 1:21:41.400 She flies for liberty, justice and freedom, for all our constitution. 1:21:42.120 --> 1:21:45.200 The whole thing is pinned together. She is our lynchpin 1:21:45.439 --> 1:21:49.280 going forward. It is the visual we see who identifies 1:21:49.560 --> 1:21:51.200 that which we are or should be. 1:21:51.360 --> 1:21:54.000 Do you think the reason why we're not making Canada 1:21:54.040 --> 1:21:56.000 fifty first state of that screw up the whole rhythm 1:21:56.000 --> 1:22:02.200 of the fifty stars? Do we really want? Do we 1:22:02.320 --> 1:22:04.360 really want a fifty first day? I mean it could 1:22:04.400 --> 1:22:08.000 be anything Puerto Rico, like it's fifty stars thirteen start. 1:22:08.000 --> 1:22:11.559 There's a balance, there is a metrical yah pa, right 1:22:11.600 --> 1:22:15.600 now what extra Star Wars you put it? Well, now 1:22:16.200 --> 1:22:18.160 Star Wars extra Star War did you put It's too 1:22:18.200 --> 1:22:21.320 confusing anyway, Steve Balso, thanks again for coming in and 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:24.040 thanks for your service and all veterans listening on this 1:22:24.160 --> 1:22:24.840 Veterans Day. 1:22:25.120 --> 1:22:28.160 Appreciate it. Thanks, thanks for your service. Appreciate it. Scott's Loan 1:22:28.160 --> 1:22:32.320 Show continues after this on seven hundred W Time to talk. 1:22:32.160 --> 1:22:35.000 About money, how to make it, how to keep it, 1:22:35.240 --> 1:22:42.120 and how to keep others off your stash. This is 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:46.080 all Worth Advice with Andy Shaeffer. The big question is 1:22:46.160 --> 1:22:48.720 it over? Is a shutdown over? And what the hell 1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:50.520 does it all mean? What did we accomplish? 1:22:50.520 --> 1:22:53.400 If anything? Andy Shaeffer from all Worth Financial, How are you? 1:22:53.720 --> 1:22:55.120 I'm doing great, Scott you today. 1:22:55.160 --> 1:22:57.800 Everything is good. So it looks like we got a 1:22:57.840 --> 1:23:00.519 deal together. Maybe by the end of the week, maybe 1:23:00.520 --> 1:23:05.200 this time tomorrow or Thursday, or maybe Friday. Government reopens, 1:23:05.200 --> 1:23:08.240 the agencies get funded, people get paid, and then maybe 1:23:08.280 --> 1:23:10.679 in about thirty days everything goes back to normal apparently. 1:23:11.360 --> 1:23:14.479 So from the market perspective, what's changed. 1:23:15.320 --> 1:23:17.760 Well, I think it just helps investors gain a little 1:23:17.800 --> 1:23:20.280 bit more confidence as far as economic data is concerned. 1:23:20.320 --> 1:23:23.479 And there were hundreds of thousands of federal workers that 1:23:23.560 --> 1:23:28.400 were furloughed that weren't receiving incomes. Obviously, travel through throughout 1:23:28.439 --> 1:23:31.519 the United States was made a lot of investors nervous 1:23:31.520 --> 1:23:33.400 and also people that are looking to go home to 1:23:33.479 --> 1:23:36.000 visit their families over Thanksgiving. But in addition to that, 1:23:37.040 --> 1:23:40.080 you know, the ability to travel and navigate is important 1:23:40.080 --> 1:23:42.519 for business as well. And so I think the fact 1:23:42.600 --> 1:23:46.080 that the House has I'm sorry, the Senate has actually 1:23:46.320 --> 1:23:48.439 you know, come to a resolution on that with a 1:23:48.479 --> 1:23:51.240 sixty forty vote that gets passed the House. 1:23:51.280 --> 1:23:52.560 Now that vote will. 1:23:52.360 --> 1:23:55.920 Happen tomorrow, that's likely to be passed, and so you 1:23:55.960 --> 1:23:58.799 know that that helped a lot with the markets. Yesterday, 1:23:58.800 --> 1:24:01.519 we saw the three main in DECKX gained. Technology stocks 1:24:01.560 --> 1:24:04.960 led the way after last week's slide. The NASDAC gained 1:24:05.000 --> 1:24:07.320 about two point three percent and that's its biggest one 1:24:07.400 --> 1:24:09.600 day rally since the two point five percent that we 1:24:09.680 --> 1:24:12.840 had in late May. We did, you know, the Magnificent 1:24:12.880 --> 1:24:16.560 seven companies, Alphabet and Vidia, Tesla, Gold, futures and treasuries 1:24:16.560 --> 1:24:18.680 all rose. And so there is some optimism out there 1:24:18.680 --> 1:24:22.479 with investors, uh, you know, based on the government reopening. 1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:25.240 And the data will start to flow once again. How 1:24:25.439 --> 1:24:27.760 how big one it seems like we really I mean, 1:24:27.800 --> 1:24:30.479 it's not official government data, I suppose, but it seems 1:24:30.520 --> 1:24:32.320 like we got to have indicator from the private market 1:24:32.360 --> 1:24:34.000 to kind of know what the economy is doing. How 1:24:34.000 --> 1:24:34.920 important is that stuff? 1:24:35.200 --> 1:24:35.840 No, it's big. 1:24:36.200 --> 1:24:38.400 You know, we can get some things from the private market, 1:24:38.760 --> 1:24:41.040 the Institute for Supply Management for instance. You know, we're 1:24:41.080 --> 1:24:42.559 able to get that data and that kind of gives 1:24:42.600 --> 1:24:45.000 us a little bit of a guideline. But there's a 1:24:45.120 --> 1:24:47.479 lot of data that you know, is set to be 1:24:47.560 --> 1:24:51.120 released as soon as the government reopens, and that's going 1:24:51.160 --> 1:24:53.479 to be critical for us to understand where are we 1:24:53.560 --> 1:24:55.559 really you know, what does jobs look like, what does 1:24:55.600 --> 1:24:58.719 it look like? And you know, with the December FED 1:24:58.760 --> 1:25:01.280 meeting coming up, you know, with the potential for more 1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:03.200 interest rate cuts, that's going to be critical for the 1:25:03.200 --> 1:25:06.720 Fed as well. So you know, if we reopen on Wednesday, 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:10.240 it's likely we get a slew of information on Thursday, 1:25:10.560 --> 1:25:12.920 and that's really going to shape you know, you know, 1:25:12.960 --> 1:25:15.000 what our future looks like from a policy standpoint, but 1:25:15.000 --> 1:25:16.320 also from a market standpoint. 1:25:16.360 --> 1:25:18.639 Okay, but based on the data we have right now, 1:25:18.680 --> 1:25:21.920 it looks like we have continued to continue to buy stuff, right, 1:25:21.960 --> 1:25:25.080 so consumer driven economy, steady spending, but there's some cracks 1:25:25.120 --> 1:25:25.720 around the edges. 1:25:25.800 --> 1:25:29.040 Yeah, yeah, so it does seem that the consumer has 1:25:29.080 --> 1:25:31.840 continued to support the economy with steady spending, but we 1:25:31.880 --> 1:25:35.240 are seeing some weaknesses around the edges. We're starting to 1:25:35.240 --> 1:25:38.080 see debt start to climb a little bit. We see 1:25:38.439 --> 1:25:41.000 that climbing to about eighteen point six trillion in the 1:25:41.040 --> 1:25:43.760 third quarter. That's a three point six percent increase from 1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:46.400 a year ago. And even though that's a new high, 1:25:46.439 --> 1:25:48.639 the pace is still in line with the three point 1:25:48.640 --> 1:25:50.800 seven percent wage growth over the past year. So you 1:25:50.880 --> 1:25:53.080 have to kind of balance that and say, you know, yeah, 1:25:53.320 --> 1:25:55.280 it is climbing, but we're also making a little bit 1:25:55.320 --> 1:25:58.839 more money. But we also seeing, you know, some cracks 1:25:59.400 --> 1:26:03.559 other places too, and you know, specifically with our debt levels. 1:26:03.600 --> 1:26:06.559 Credit card balances are continuing to climb at a rate 1:26:06.600 --> 1:26:09.280 of five point eight percent. That's one point two three 1:26:09.400 --> 1:26:12.320 trillion dollars, and four point five percent of all household 1:26:12.360 --> 1:26:15.639 debt is now past due. So there are some cracks now. 1:26:16.040 --> 1:26:18.720 Even though the confidence is softening, and we measure that 1:26:18.760 --> 1:26:22.280 with the University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment Index. You know, 1:26:22.320 --> 1:26:25.559 we've had some of the weakest levels in nearly two years. However, 1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:29.960 most households now expect unemployment to rise over the next year. 1:26:30.080 --> 1:26:33.639 The shutdown has added to the uncertainty, but ultimately we're 1:26:33.680 --> 1:26:35.360 still doing okay at this point. 1:26:35.439 --> 1:26:36.960 So there are some cracks. 1:26:37.080 --> 1:26:39.120 It does seem like we're getting into a place where 1:26:39.120 --> 1:26:41.559 the economy is cooling a little bit, but it's not 1:26:41.720 --> 1:26:42.360 all that bad. 1:26:42.880 --> 1:26:45.800 Okay. I did see this because there's indicator's right, and 1:26:46.200 --> 1:26:48.639 metrics and all this, but this is an interesting test 1:26:48.680 --> 1:26:54.280 to me. So fast food, so companies like Household now, Chipotle, McDonald's, 1:26:54.280 --> 1:26:59.520 Burger King, Wendy's, they've started warring about looking at flagging purchases, 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:02.680 basically meaning that the purchases among low income customers are 1:27:02.680 --> 1:27:07.320 starting to drop. So what they look at is shopper attitudes. 1:27:07.320 --> 1:27:10.639 And this was from this October and in November two. 1:27:11.160 --> 1:27:13.280 We know consumer sentiment is fairly low according to that 1:27:13.360 --> 1:27:16.240 University of Michigan Datta you cited too, But there's been 1:27:16.280 --> 1:27:19.400 a double digit drop in sales by from customers who 1:27:19.400 --> 1:27:22.320 made less than one hundred thousand dollars, so I mean 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:24.400 one hundred thousand punds a lot of money. But for 1:27:24.479 --> 1:27:27.800 those under that threshold, we have seen the number of 1:27:27.840 --> 1:27:32.200 fast food purchases dropped dramatically from Chipotle, McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's, 1:27:32.240 --> 1:27:35.439 Taco Bell, KFC, et cetera, et cetera, to the point 1:27:35.439 --> 1:27:36.840 where that's why you're starting to see some of these 1:27:36.920 --> 1:27:39.240 value meals come back, and not the dollar value means anymore, 1:27:39.360 --> 1:27:41.840 like the five and eight dollar value meals, so not 1:27:41.960 --> 1:27:44.080 the value we used to just a few years ago. 1:27:44.640 --> 1:27:47.160 That seems to be a pretty interesting indicator to me. 1:27:47.520 --> 1:27:48.680 Yeah, And I think a lot of that has to 1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:50.840 do with discretionary spending. I don't go to fast food 1:27:50.840 --> 1:27:54.360 restaurants very often, and when I do, because I go 1:27:54.439 --> 1:27:57.519 in frequently, I do notice the increase in prices, and 1:27:57.560 --> 1:28:00.400 it's significant. And if you're a lower income house sold, 1:28:00.800 --> 1:28:02.920 you really have to watch their pennies and understand as 1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:05.439 the economy slows down, where that money is going. You know, 1:28:05.479 --> 1:28:08.439 are you able to go shopping at Kroger and find 1:28:09.000 --> 1:28:10.960 a chicken to roast and some green beans and paint 1:28:11.080 --> 1:28:14.200 is ten dollars in feed you know, six people within 1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:16.719 your house? Or are you going to spend fifteen dollars 1:28:16.800 --> 1:28:18.640 on a big mac coke and froes? You know, So 1:28:19.120 --> 1:28:21.640 it's coming down to I think everybody knows that the 1:28:21.720 --> 1:28:23.519 economy is pulling off a little bit, and I think 1:28:23.560 --> 1:28:25.559 a lot of people are really just trying to watch 1:28:25.600 --> 1:28:28.720 their pennies and the eventuality that maybe we do go 1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:31.559 into recession over the next couple of years, and that 1:28:31.680 --> 1:28:33.759 you have to have a little bit of cash reserves 1:28:33.760 --> 1:28:36.120 in case things do go sideways. In addition to that, 1:28:36.360 --> 1:28:39.200 people were nervous about losing their staff benefits. You know, 1:28:39.240 --> 1:28:41.680 that weighs on a lot of people's minds. So everybody's 1:28:41.760 --> 1:28:43.920 kind of circling the wagons right now and you know, 1:28:44.000 --> 1:28:47.880 really trying to figure out which way are economy's going now. Ultimately, 1:28:47.920 --> 1:28:49.760 as we continue to see the labor market cool a 1:28:49.760 --> 1:28:51.920 little bit, I think that that allows the Fed to 1:28:51.960 --> 1:28:54.760 cut rates in December and hopefully that will spurn the 1:28:54.800 --> 1:28:56.960 market as well. If you cut interest rates, that will 1:28:56.960 --> 1:28:59.200 increase demand because the cost of borrowing. 1:28:58.920 --> 1:28:59.639 Is a lot cheaper. 1:29:00.120 --> 1:29:02.800 Will also help businesses spend a lot more and also 1:29:02.880 --> 1:29:05.920 maybe open up their cofers to hire a little bit more. 1:29:05.920 --> 1:29:08.439 And so there's a balance there. And I think at 1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:10.040 this point people were kind of in a wait and 1:29:10.080 --> 1:29:10.599 see approach. 1:29:10.640 --> 1:29:12.880 All right, so buying less assuit but everything we buy 1:29:12.880 --> 1:29:14.840 apparently we're all putting on credit cards now. 1:29:15.640 --> 1:29:18.240 Yeah, yeah, and I think you know about seventy percent 1:29:18.240 --> 1:29:20.519 of people don't pay off their credit cards on a 1:29:20.560 --> 1:29:22.760 monthly basis, and you know that is a way to 1:29:22.800 --> 1:29:25.200 give some people flexibility. You know, if you are a 1:29:25.240 --> 1:29:28.120 government worker and you don't have income at this point, 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:30.479 that makes sense, right, You're probably spending a little bit 1:29:30.479 --> 1:29:32.479 more on your credit card with the hopes that the 1:29:32.520 --> 1:29:35.240 government will reopen. And when the government does reopen, not 1:29:35.280 --> 1:29:39.200 only will that help those federal employees continue to earn 1:29:39.200 --> 1:29:42.040 a wage, but it will also help private businesses because 1:29:42.080 --> 1:29:45.519 they do a lot of business with those government entities. 1:29:45.600 --> 1:29:48.240 So that is the optimism that we're seeing from the 1:29:48.280 --> 1:29:50.680 market standpoint is that hey, business is likely going to 1:29:50.680 --> 1:29:53.760 get back to usual. The airports are not going to 1:29:53.800 --> 1:29:56.320 have to cut as many flights as as we need, 1:29:56.400 --> 1:29:58.760 and we're going to see government workers start to be 1:29:58.800 --> 1:30:02.120 employed once again, earn a and hopefully encourage more consumer spending. 1:30:02.160 --> 1:30:04.240 All right, Andy Schaeffer from all Worth this morning on 1:30:04.280 --> 1:30:07.439 seven hundred WLW, talking about your money. We also know 1:30:07.520 --> 1:30:10.439 that while student loans, for example, I saw something that 1:30:10.760 --> 1:30:13.280 did delinquities start to go back up again? 1:30:13.680 --> 1:30:16.920 Yeah, they went up again as well, they served. Delinquencies 1:30:17.000 --> 1:30:19.479 jumped from less than one percent a year ago to 1:30:19.520 --> 1:30:22.559 more to fourteen percent following the end of the repayment pause, 1:30:22.640 --> 1:30:24.160 So that's significant as well. 1:30:24.240 --> 1:30:25.519 So yeah, there're certainly cracks. 1:30:25.640 --> 1:30:28.919 All right, very good, And we talked about the economic 1:30:28.960 --> 1:30:31.760 picture moving forward here we'll find and things are just 1:30:31.840 --> 1:30:33.679 kind of I mean, it's slowing, that's for sure, there's 1:30:33.680 --> 1:30:34.479 just no way around it. 1:30:35.000 --> 1:30:37.759 Yeah, a much weaker report came in on the job cuts. 1:30:37.760 --> 1:30:40.360 Corporations announced more than one hundred and fifty thousand job 1:30:40.400 --> 1:30:43.559 cuts last month. That's the highest October total and over 1:30:43.600 --> 1:30:47.400 two decades. You know, we're seeing companies like Amazon plans 1:30:47.400 --> 1:30:49.960 to cut fourteen thousand rolls. Target said it will trim 1:30:49.960 --> 1:30:52.439 about two thousand you know here locally, well, we know 1:30:52.479 --> 1:30:54.680 what's going on with ups and here locally, you know, 1:30:54.720 --> 1:30:57.160 we have you know, cuts from Program Procter and Gamble 1:30:57.200 --> 1:30:59.880 as well. So no, while they're not significant in the 1:31:00.040 --> 1:31:02.320 big scheme of things, you know, they employ thousands and 1:31:02.360 --> 1:31:05.960 thousands of employees, it is a trend and I think 1:31:06.000 --> 1:31:08.960 that right now business leaders are trying to you know, 1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:10.800 trim a little bit of the fact, get lean and 1:31:10.840 --> 1:31:13.200 be able to be nimbled to make decisions moving forward 1:31:13.240 --> 1:31:16.559 based on not only how our economy is going to project, 1:31:16.600 --> 1:31:20.400 but also with with with interest rates at how it goes. 1:31:20.439 --> 1:31:22.120 Okay, I had a concert food expert on not long 1:31:22.120 --> 1:31:25.240 ago from Manhattan Institute about the Supreme Court here in 1:31:25.280 --> 1:31:29.360 the tariff case, which is really going to impact markets 1:31:29.400 --> 1:31:32.320 depending how the Supreme Court rules on the whether or 1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:34.439 not tariffs are in the purview of the President of 1:31:34.439 --> 1:31:36.880 the United States. You know, it's our basically, it's attacks 1:31:36.920 --> 1:31:39.919 and only Congress can tax people. And if your Solicitor 1:31:39.960 --> 1:31:42.200 General admits it's a tax, that kind of underminds the 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:45.120 argument before the High Court. What impact will this decision 1:31:45.240 --> 1:31:46.600 have on the market's. 1:31:46.680 --> 1:31:49.680 Huge if if if that actually gets rescinded and we 1:31:49.760 --> 1:31:53.240 have to unwind the tariff conversations with other countries. Not 1:31:53.360 --> 1:31:56.080 only will you know, how do we figure out how 1:31:56.120 --> 1:31:57.640 do we do we give them money back? You know, 1:31:57.800 --> 1:31:59.760 and and you know from the revenue that we get. 1:31:59.800 --> 1:32:03.240 And furthermore, that will certainly undermine the leverage that we 1:32:03.280 --> 1:32:05.679 have in these negotiations with other countries, and it will 1:32:05.680 --> 1:32:08.879 make us look significantly weak. Now I'm not an attorney, 1:32:08.920 --> 1:32:10.880 I don't know understand how all that plays out. But 1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:13.839 what I do know is if the Supreme Court rules 1:32:14.560 --> 1:32:18.800 against the ability for the Trump administration to implement these 1:32:18.840 --> 1:32:21.600 tariffs and will have a significant impact not only on 1:32:21.600 --> 1:32:23.800 our economy but the markets as well. I don't think 1:32:23.840 --> 1:32:26.479 that that's going to happen, but that is something to 1:32:26.520 --> 1:32:27.040 keep an eye on. 1:32:27.160 --> 1:32:29.280 Yeah, and you wonder, I mean, you can only factor 1:32:29.320 --> 1:32:31.040 this in so much if you're the market, right Rob 1:32:31.120 --> 1:32:34.599 wall Street, It'll be interesting because it'll go either extremely 1:32:34.680 --> 1:32:36.599 up or down at least for a couple of days anyway, 1:32:36.640 --> 1:32:38.479 But then we'll figure it out like we always do. 1:32:39.000 --> 1:32:39.240 Well. 1:32:39.280 --> 1:32:41.479 The thing about the markets is that the markets are 1:32:41.520 --> 1:32:44.280 pre predictive indicators of how we feel about the economy 1:32:44.280 --> 1:32:46.479 looking out six months to a year. So the market 1:32:46.680 --> 1:32:49.680 generally will tell us how investors feel about, you know, 1:32:49.760 --> 1:32:53.000 not only certain economic data, but also geopolitical decisions. And 1:32:53.040 --> 1:32:56.679 at the moment, the market is not considering the fact 1:32:56.720 --> 1:32:59.559 that the terroriffs could be rescinded. We will see the 1:32:59.600 --> 1:33:04.920 markets respond, you know, way in advance of whatever decision 1:33:05.000 --> 1:33:07.280 is going to come from the Supreme Court. If that 1:33:07.320 --> 1:33:09.439 writing is on the wall. We're just not quite there yet, 1:33:09.479 --> 1:33:11.400 and the market doesn't believe that that's going to happen. 1:33:11.720 --> 1:33:14.320 Andy Schaefer. One of the more interesting proposals coming out 1:33:14.320 --> 1:33:16.719 this week, and this one left me shaking my head. 1:33:16.920 --> 1:33:21.280 Is the President suggesting we should do a fifty year mortgage, 1:33:21.320 --> 1:33:24.120 not a fifteen and not a thirty, not a thirty 1:33:24.160 --> 1:33:27.120 five or forty, but a fifty year mortgage. 1:33:27.160 --> 1:33:30.080 Your reaction, Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that. 1:33:30.240 --> 1:33:32.519 You know, And on one hand, the fifty year mortgage 1:33:32.560 --> 1:33:34.519 can be a game changer for people to be able 1:33:34.560 --> 1:33:38.080 to afford a home. It will certainly reduce the amount 1:33:38.120 --> 1:33:40.559 of payments that you're going to have on a monthly basis. 1:33:40.800 --> 1:33:43.840 But while that initially might seem appealing, there are some 1:33:44.000 --> 1:33:48.599 drawbacks and some of that could lead to obviously more 1:33:48.640 --> 1:33:51.679 payover time. You're not building as much equity in your home. 1:33:51.960 --> 1:33:54.599 There's more risk of default, and the reality is, if 1:33:54.600 --> 1:33:57.400 you need a fifty year mortgage, you probably can't afford 1:33:57.400 --> 1:34:00.439 the house. But I do understand on this surface, it 1:34:00.479 --> 1:34:02.879 does make it look more attractive for low income families, 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:06.040 because the American dream is owning a home and being 1:34:06.080 --> 1:34:08.120 able to afford it. But on the other hand, there 1:34:08.120 --> 1:34:11.600 are a lot of you know, drawbacks and potential pitfalls 1:34:11.600 --> 1:34:12.960 for that fifty year mortgage. 1:34:12.960 --> 1:34:15.040 So if you're if you're if you're going. 1:34:15.040 --> 1:34:16.479 With the biggest loan you can get on a car 1:34:17.280 --> 1:34:18.760 like a new car is at eight years old. 1:34:18.760 --> 1:34:22.519 I don't even mean I mean I see a lot 1:34:22.520 --> 1:34:25.120 of five year loans. I think you can probably get 1:34:25.120 --> 1:34:28.640 an eight year loan. I haven't really researched, you know 1:34:28.680 --> 1:34:29.400 how far out. 1:34:29.240 --> 1:34:29.640 You have to go. 1:34:30.120 --> 1:34:32.200 The point is, is a financial we're just playing more principle. 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:34.960 I mean the bank is that we're making the payment. 1:34:35.880 --> 1:34:37.519 And that's right, and it's one of those you know, 1:34:37.560 --> 1:34:40.160 you're kind of renting to own. And if you have 1:34:40.200 --> 1:34:42.479 a mortgage where on a thirty year loan where it's 1:34:42.800 --> 1:34:44.720 let's say one thousand dollars a month, and you can 1:34:44.720 --> 1:34:47.080 get a fifty year loan where it's six hundred dollars 1:34:47.080 --> 1:34:49.320 a month, you know, it makes it seem more affordable 1:34:49.320 --> 1:34:51.080 for people. But at the end of the day, you're 1:34:51.080 --> 1:34:53.320 not going to build enough equity. And what we've found 1:34:53.320 --> 1:34:56.280 from a data standpoint is if you are not able 1:34:56.360 --> 1:34:58.160 to build enough equity in your house, you are more 1:34:58.240 --> 1:35:01.240 risk to default and essentially get kicked out of your house. 1:35:01.280 --> 1:35:04.280 So the data suggests that that's not a good idea. 1:35:04.320 --> 1:35:08.360 I know it sounds attractive, but it's probably not advantageous 1:35:08.479 --> 1:35:10.439 for you to look at a fifty year term on 1:35:10.520 --> 1:35:11.000 a mortgage. 1:35:11.080 --> 1:35:13.320 If I'm forty years old, I get a fifty year mortgage. 1:35:13.320 --> 1:35:15.040 To the math there, it seems like the bank thing 1:35:15.120 --> 1:35:16.800 is gonna be holding for a lot out of you 1:35:16.840 --> 1:35:18.840 know you' sixties. Like, hell, I'll take a fifty year 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:20.599 mortgage out. I don't have to pay that back. I'll 1:35:20.600 --> 1:35:20.920 be dead. 1:35:21.360 --> 1:35:21.559 Yeah. 1:35:21.560 --> 1:35:23.720 And I think, on the other hand, if you're let's 1:35:23.720 --> 1:35:25.479 say thirty years old, in your beginning of your career, 1:35:25.560 --> 1:35:27.240 you get a fifty year mortgage, that doesn't mean you 1:35:27.240 --> 1:35:29.360 can't pay it off sooner. And I think a lot 1:35:29.400 --> 1:35:32.479 of consumers at this point say, well, I'm struggling right now, 1:35:32.600 --> 1:35:34.200 or I'm just cut my teeth and I have an 1:35:34.320 --> 1:35:36.760 entry level job. But at some point I expect that 1:35:36.800 --> 1:35:38.760 I'm going to make a lot more money and maybe 1:35:38.840 --> 1:35:40.880 I can accelerate this mortgage a little bit more. 1:35:40.920 --> 1:35:41.040 So. 1:35:41.320 --> 1:35:44.360 There are some positives, but there's certain certainly some drawbacks there. 1:35:44.400 --> 1:35:45.880 It's a lot of debt held though. That's the thing 1:35:45.960 --> 1:35:47.720 a lot of people move to the fifty that that's 1:35:47.760 --> 1:35:49.559 a lot of debt that's hanging out there when we're 1:35:49.560 --> 1:35:51.320 already seemingly at our max. 1:35:52.120 --> 1:35:52.640 Yeah. 1:35:52.720 --> 1:35:54.320 Yeah, and that's why I'm not really a big fan 1:35:54.320 --> 1:35:56.240 of it. I mean, if you have equity at home, 1:35:56.320 --> 1:35:58.360 you know, we could see a bubble. And you know, 1:35:58.600 --> 1:36:00.680 when when you hear the term bubble, nobody likes that. 1:36:00.720 --> 1:36:03.080 It brings us back to those thoughts of you know, 1:36:03.120 --> 1:36:05.000 two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, where we 1:36:05.040 --> 1:36:08.360 were lending to people that really couldn't afford it and 1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:11.000 a lot of those defaulted. And I fear that, you know, 1:36:11.120 --> 1:36:13.439 something like this could also create a bubble as well. 1:36:13.680 --> 1:36:15.599 You don't want to make be underwater on your loan 1:36:15.640 --> 1:36:17.559 because sometimes you owe more to the lender than your 1:36:17.560 --> 1:36:19.760 homes are worth. And that's what we're talking about with 1:36:19.800 --> 1:36:22.080 a fifty year mortgage. If you're not paying much into it, 1:36:22.320 --> 1:36:24.360 the bank holds the cards over your head. 1:36:24.400 --> 1:36:24.680 All right. 1:36:24.840 --> 1:36:28.960 Finally, we are wrapping up enrollment season for not only healthcare, 1:36:28.960 --> 1:36:30.320 about iras and stuff like that. 1:36:30.360 --> 1:36:34.240 Real quick advice, Yeah, I think make sure that you 1:36:34.280 --> 1:36:36.200 do review it. A lot of people say, well, you know, 1:36:36.240 --> 1:36:37.920 everything's going to be the same. You want to make 1:36:37.960 --> 1:36:41.040 sure that you go into your platform with your employer 1:36:41.120 --> 1:36:44.559 to make sure that you know your choices are still 1:36:44.600 --> 1:36:47.080 in line with what your lifestyle needs. You know, whether 1:36:47.160 --> 1:36:50.439 it is adding insurance, whether it's long term disability, make 1:36:50.479 --> 1:36:54.200 sure that you're protected. And if your company does supply 1:36:54.400 --> 1:36:58.280 a decent amount of capital to those premiums on your behalf, 1:36:58.600 --> 1:37:00.280 you want to make sure that you take advantag of 1:37:00.280 --> 1:37:01.960 it because there's a lot of value there. If you 1:37:02.000 --> 1:37:04.639 go out on the street and get a disability policy, 1:37:05.920 --> 1:37:08.080 it's going to be significantly more expensive in a lot 1:37:08.080 --> 1:37:11.280 of cases versus what your employer is going to offer. 1:37:11.400 --> 1:37:14.960 And also kick into that premium whether you have the 1:37:15.000 --> 1:37:17.760 ability to have life insurance as well, you want to 1:37:17.760 --> 1:37:19.640 make sure all that's taken care of and button up. 1:37:19.680 --> 1:37:22.000 So my advice is to make sure that you review it, 1:37:22.000 --> 1:37:23.439 make sure it's in line with your lifestyle. 1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:26.000 Okay, yeah, it makes sense. And I unlily, I mean, 1:37:26.000 --> 1:37:28.240 we sat down and did the health benefits and one, okay, 1:37:28.240 --> 1:37:30.599 we've got all these new plans, and then about ten 1:37:30.600 --> 1:37:32.080 minutes and well let's just keep them one we have 1:37:32.160 --> 1:37:33.679 and pay a little bit more. I have no idea 1:37:33.720 --> 1:37:34.400 what this means. 1:37:34.920 --> 1:37:36.880 Yeah, well, that's when you need to speak with your 1:37:36.920 --> 1:37:38.840 financial advisor to review it with them to make sure 1:37:38.840 --> 1:37:39.519 your idea. 1:37:39.320 --> 1:37:41.640 What all these copays and this and that and and 1:37:41.680 --> 1:37:44.559 it's a PPO and PPF and people just way how much? 1:37:45.080 --> 1:37:48.120 Yeah, And I think that it can be complicated, but 1:37:48.479 --> 1:37:52.839 most corporations, especially if it's medium size to a large corporation, 1:37:53.840 --> 1:37:56.600 will have specialists with that corporation to be able to 1:37:56.600 --> 1:37:58.280 help you. I know, at all Worth Financial we have 1:37:59.200 --> 1:38:04.000 you know, our HR apartment holds a number of zoom meetings. 1:38:03.479 --> 1:38:05.000 To review those with employees. 1:38:05.040 --> 1:38:07.320 I think that we've scheduled you know, about a dozen 1:38:07.360 --> 1:38:09.280 of them so that it fits everybody's schedule to be 1:38:09.280 --> 1:38:12.599 able to participate. So hopefully your corporation and your entity 1:38:13.479 --> 1:38:15.120 you know, has the resources to be able to help 1:38:15.120 --> 1:38:16.120 you along with those choices. 1:38:16.400 --> 1:38:18.160 It's final. I'll work another five years to pay for 1:38:18.160 --> 1:38:21.560 the healthcare for this year. It's fine. It's fine, it's fine. 1:38:21.680 --> 1:38:22.599 Everything can be fine. 1:38:22.800 --> 1:38:25.519 Andy Schaeffer, all Worth Financial, simply money nine at six, 1:38:25.800 --> 1:38:28.839 I'm fifty five k RC pops in the show every Tuesday, 1:38:28.840 --> 1:38:31.439 Mortal checkup for you. Appreciate it man, Thanks nice Scott 1:38:31.479 --> 1:38:32.960 touching Nex We got news on the way, and that 1:38:33.000 --> 1:38:35.560 means Willie stands by at twelve o six today on 1:38:35.680 --> 1:38:37.879 the home of the best Bengals coverage, seven hundred WW 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:38.400 since NAP