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Speaker 2: They're having a day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're they're in their feelings and you guys

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Speaker 4: Oh they they already have, they already have. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just read the top one right here, right off.

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Speaker 1: The top, this from the nine to five four three five, Oh, Dave,

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Speaker 1: can you please give out the number to your to

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Speaker 1: your inema guy over the air. Broncos country needs a

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Speaker 1: serious cleanse from all this free agent crime they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Do you have I don't have anema?

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Speaker 3: Guys, I can say you've you've brought up enemas as

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Speaker 4: Do you think you.

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Speaker 1: Actually think there's a number, like a one eight hundred

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's one of those where like you're asking

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Speaker 4: You know I've left that care.

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Speaker 2: I've got a guy I've got.

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Speaker 2: You have a guy for that. Yeah, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I oh, yes, you do know. Well, no, I know that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you I didn't know if you

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Speaker 4: That's what I mean. Yes, you do know, you know that.

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Speaker 1: But people, I mean, normally that's going to be a

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Speaker 1: It is it is, it is I would think a

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Speaker 4: I can't think of the last time I've had one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean either, but you know, I grew up

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Speaker 3: Life was back in the sixties uphill both ways that

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Speaker 4: Animals, right, Hey, there you go.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't know that was twenty years you know.

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Speaker 3: the Broncos have done so far in free agency, but

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Speaker 2: We're running it back.

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Speaker 3: At least that's what I can take away from bringing

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Speaker 2: That's what they've done so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can understand how Broncos fans would be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, I mean, in all honesty, I really felt

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Speaker 3: So forty six guaranteed, forty three million bays twenty eight

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Now, Kidd Walker is.

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Speaker 1: But that's a steep price tag for a running back

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Speaker 1: He's a first and second down player. He's not going

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Speaker 4: But I'm a little surprised.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised they didn't go out and really

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Speaker 2: But in this case without a tight end.

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Speaker 3: I mean Isaiah likely getting a three or forty million

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Speaker 2: So he's on the low side of all these deals.

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Speaker 3: Do you really think the Chiefs have gotten better? They

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Speaker 3: We're talking about Wandale Robinson getting a four year, seventy

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Speaker 3: there is. There's no way to sugarcoated. Today has been

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Speaker 1: I understand the frustration that Broncos fans feel about I

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Speaker 4: They just didn't. They just didn't.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't, or they chose not to make a deal

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Speaker 4: But I get it.

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Speaker 1: atn you know, the the the Kenneth Goshi Walker Kenith

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Speaker 1: Walker deal again fourteen million. You know, I can't blame

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Speaker 1: the Broncos for not entertaining that number. I'm not surprised

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Speaker 1: they cut Dray Greenlaw. I am surprised, frankly, that they

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Speaker 1: re signed Justin Struan. I thought for sure that they

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Speaker 1: would not make a move on him, and I thought

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Speaker 1: somebody would, but as it turned out, they they brought

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Speaker 1: him back. I wasn't sure about Alex Singleton, who's had

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Speaker 1: two really good years. I think I think he's a

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Speaker 1: very good, very smart inside linebacker, and I.

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Speaker 4: Think he's one of the leaders in your locker room.

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Speaker 1: But I wasn't sure they were going to make a

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Speaker 1: make a significant pitch for him. Some of the players

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Speaker 1: they brought back are pieces that you need in your

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Speaker 1: locker room. They're good, solid players that don't break the bank.

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Speaker 1: The Nate Atkins, I mean, Troutman is a really I

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Speaker 1: think he's a good, good player. He hasn't been featured much.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that will change. I thought they

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Speaker 1: might look in the at the Tide End room, and frankly,

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Speaker 1: I thought they might look at the at the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room. I wasn't sure what they were going to

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Speaker 1: do there. Maybe and Dobbs is still out there from

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. Maybe maybe they bring somebody else in. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but I understand from because it's free agency

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Speaker 1: and all these other teams making splashes and the Broncos

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Speaker 1: really their splash like pitter patter splashes, and I get

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Speaker 1: it from a fans standpoint, I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly. By the way, Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: According to Connor Hughes with s n Y TV out

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Speaker 3: in New York, the Jaguars are entertaining offers for Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 4: The wide receiver. Yeah. I'm not a huge Brian Thomas fan.

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Speaker 4: I love him. That figures, I know.

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Speaker 1: I mean really well, right, if you were on one

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Speaker 1: end of the teeter totter, I clearly would be on

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Speaker 1: the other.

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Speaker 2: What do you not like about Brian Thomas?

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Speaker 4: I like the ball, not on the ground.

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Speaker 2: He did have a lot a tough, tough season last year.

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Speaker 4: I rest my case. Well, but no further question.

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Speaker 3: He was in the Rookie of the Year conversation the

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Speaker 3: year before you whatever, A thousand yards you know what.

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Speaker 1: I at one point I had sixty catches for almost

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards in a season.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't do that. Now that's fair. Yeah, that's not

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Speaker 4: really fair.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, maybe he's got just spectacular ability. I

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Speaker 1: haven't I haven't watched him the the times I've seen him,

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Speaker 1: it's like he's an inconsistent ball catcher.

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Speaker 2: Wells, what's interesting. So his rookie season eighty.

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Speaker 3: Seven catches for one thousand, two hundred and eight two

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Speaker 3: yards and pretty good ten touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: This is a rookie season.

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Speaker 3: He follows that up with forty eight catches seven hundred

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Speaker 3: and seven to two touchdowns. Now what changes, Well, you

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Speaker 3: had a new system, you have new coaching staff, and

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Speaker 3: he saw emergence from Parker Washington. They also brought in

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Speaker 3: the former Raiders wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Kobe Myers.

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Speaker 2: They brought on Jacoba Myers.

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Speaker 3: So but he still had drops, he still had problems,

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Speaker 3: and he also got injured during the course of this season.

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Speaker 3: So he looks like a guy that's like kind of

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Speaker 3: a prime candidate for a change of scenery to me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if seriously you think could change the scenery Aaron

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Speaker 1: Denver and we could get closer to his rookie season production,

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Speaker 1: because he's that guy. As opposed to his second season

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Speaker 1: production because he's not that guy. Well, then I would

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Speaker 1: I would sign off, but I you know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure that's I'd have to look at him more than

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Speaker 1: I've looked at him. But my inclination would be how much?

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Speaker 1: How much do you think he costs? He's probably like

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Speaker 1: minus side of beef? What do you think he costs?

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna cost your first thirtieth overall.

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Speaker 1: I am absolutely positively not trading a first round draft

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Speaker 1: choice for Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I am absolutely positively trading the thirtieth overall.

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Speaker 4: Well, of course you are.

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Speaker 2: Of course you are well, and I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Even doing it just because you don't want to. I

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Speaker 3: have been a big Brian Thomas fan since g out.

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Speaker 1: I list your position is does Brian Thomas play plays

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Speaker 1: the X? Which is also what position is that wide receiver?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're try to make a point about you also

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Speaker 3: playing a similar position.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling the truth, you know, Like if we

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Speaker 1: talk about, hey, what's there are two ways to get

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Speaker 1: to like the chords B and like D on the guitar.

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Speaker 1: You think you'd be better served coming to me, are

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Speaker 1: coming to you? I'm just asking for a friend.

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Speaker 3: Well, since I play guitar, you okay, I see where

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Speaker 3: you're going.

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Speaker 4: So that's in your wheelhouse. I see where you're going

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Speaker 4: with Yes, that's in your wheelhouse playing the guitar. Okay

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Speaker 4: and wide receiver. I'm done.

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Speaker 3: Okay, see you buffs women. They lost to the semifinals, unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: the big.

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Speaker 4: Women.

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Speaker 2: I'm just reading what's on the paper.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Good. Do you ever see Anchorman? Yes, I I've

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Speaker 4: done that so many times before.

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Speaker 2: That's right, see you man.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna start a big twelve attorney play tomorrow nights.

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Speaker 2: Let's go taking on an Oklahoma state will have coverage

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Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 3: Can't Way's turn Updates are presented by Exfinity and Dave

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Speaker 3: Ram Jeep GMC and Chevrolet. Jamal Murray after the injury

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Speaker 3: the other night, I thought he might miss some significant time,

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Speaker 3: but he is playing tonight, which is impressive, very impressive.

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Speaker 2: Benjamin Albright in studio.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Ben, I can't tell if I'm the I guess

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Speaker 5: I'm not the wet blanket anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'm the I'm a yes man for the organization. Now

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Speaker 2: you do play both sides.

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Speaker 3: But yes, you you've been you've been a little more

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Speaker 3: reasonable today, only to be able to point to today's

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Speaker 3: examples when you decide to go back to your wet, blankenness.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, that's it's all a big it's all a

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Speaker 6: big plot. Well, you got some people getting afty. Oh

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Speaker 6: it's you know, it's Twitter. They're melting down. The Broncos

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Speaker 6: didn't do anything. There's George Peyton's on vacation in Costa Rica.

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Speaker 4: Which is not true.

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Speaker 2: You know, all this kind of is He's on vacation

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Speaker 2: in Costa Rica's so that's a rumor.

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Speaker 5: Some idiot started to try to wow, there's this there's

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Speaker 5: this weird segment of the Broncos fan base that wants

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Speaker 5: to blame George Peyton for everything, even though George really doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Sean says go get something and George goes

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Speaker 2: and gets it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, like, I think most GM's probably should do right.

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Speaker 3: If if the coaching staff is saying, hey, I.

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Speaker 5: Like this guy, that position has changed a lot of

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Speaker 5: the general manager used to kind of be in charge, right,

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Speaker 5: I would say that I would say that our general

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Speaker 5: manager is kind of more in charge of the ninety

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Speaker 5: and the head coach is in charge of the fifty

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Speaker 5: three is probably a better way to say that. That's

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Speaker 5: not exactly true, but that's probably the best way to

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Speaker 5: phrase the division of responsibility.

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Speaker 3: Well, so let me ask you that, Dave really quick,

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Speaker 3: and again we'll have a chance with Nate Jackson and

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Speaker 3: study tomorrow to continue to break this thing down. But

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Speaker 3: do you think the GM should in that case defer

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Speaker 3: as much as he does to the coaches and trying

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Speaker 3: to build the roster.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think George is a really smart, intelligent personnel guy,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's also smart in the way that

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Speaker 1: he's been able to work with Sean.

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Speaker 4: I think it's.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every head coach probably is a challenge to

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Speaker 1: a certain extent. Sean is not shy in terms of

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Speaker 1: letting it be known what type players he's looking for,

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Speaker 1: and he was tasked with that when he was hired.

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Speaker 1: I remember Greg pintersaying we hired Sean to change the

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Speaker 1: culture of the organization. Well, when you when you say

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Speaker 1: that publicly, then you basically have given the keys to

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Speaker 1: the car to the head coach. So it's up to

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Speaker 1: the GM, I think, And I also would say this

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Speaker 1: to Broncos fans. If George Peyton were fired today, which

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Speaker 1: I would not advocate for at all, he'd be out

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Speaker 1: of work about twenty four hours.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Agree.

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Speaker 1: George Payton is regarded as a really good football man, smart,

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Speaker 1: instinctive football man, and I don't quite get the sort

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Speaker 1: of the the reaction from time to time. I know, again,

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Speaker 1: I understand Broncos fans wanted maybe a bigger splash, a splash,

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Speaker 1: semi big splash. I thought they might make make it

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Speaker 1: in the running back room. I think they tried to

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Speaker 1: make it in the running back room and it didn't.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work out. So rather than overpay for a

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Speaker 1: guy they had parameters of the kind of deal they

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Speaker 1: were willing to offer. When that was not accepted, I

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Speaker 1: think they they moved on. So but I think there

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Speaker 1: are some things coming down the pipe here right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they're going to add to the roster.

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Speaker 5: And I think I put it out on Twitter somewhere

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Speaker 5: in one of the replies where I said, right down,

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Speaker 5: put it in ink, I guarantee you there will be

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Speaker 5: three minimum editions here in the next week or so.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, Okay, we'll come back to that. Certainly,

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of people dunking on you.

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Speaker 3: If that doesn't happen, they won't be dunking. Okay, what's

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Speaker 3: coming up on the show?

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Speaker 2: Scott Turner is going to join us. A former offensive

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Speaker 2: coordator for Washington the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Peter King us.

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Speaker 2: He's off this year. He was trying to catch on.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be office year to little podcast. Try to

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Speaker 2: catch on next year.

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Speaker 4: You got it.

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Speaker 2: Peter King is actually gonna.

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Speaker 5: Beit later in the week, depending how the CEU basketball

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Speaker 5: schedule works out.

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Speaker 4: We got the Gruden Boys. He's a big fan of

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Speaker 4: SEU basketball.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't really want to be preempted by them.

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Speaker 5: Oh and then the Gruden Boys whenever we can work

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Speaker 5: them in around SEU basketball as well.

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Speaker 4: Good deal, Very cool.

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Speaker 2: Dave, my friend always great.

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Speaker 4: Good to see it. See you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yep, sounds great, Grant, great job, will have Nate Jackson

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Speaker 3: is studio with us tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: But you see team next