WEBVTT -  Breitbart Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlow

0:00:01.700 --> 0:00:04.500
<v Speaker 1>It's 8.06 at 55KRC, the talk station. Brian Thomas here

0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.020
<v Speaker 1>wishing everyone a very happy Tuesday and welcoming to the

0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.320
<v Speaker 1>55KRC Morning Show, a segment we do each week at

0:00:09.380 --> 0:00:12.100
<v Speaker 1>this time, the Insight Scoop with Breitbart News. Always start

0:00:12.140 --> 0:00:17.180
<v Speaker 1>out by telling my listening audience, bookmark the site, Breitbart, B-R-E-I-T-B-A-R-T.com.

0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:19.290
<v Speaker 1>You'll be glad you did because you can read what

0:00:19.329 --> 0:00:22.570
<v Speaker 1>Breitbart News Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlow writes about among the other topics.

0:00:22.670 --> 0:00:25.150
<v Speaker 1>Alex Marlow, welcome back to the 55KRC Morning Show. Your

0:00:25.190 --> 0:00:27.230
<v Speaker 1>name came up earlier in the program. We were talking

0:00:27.250 --> 0:00:29.470
<v Speaker 1>about Empower You seminars. Welcome back, my friend.

0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:32.159
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian. I always appreciate what you do for

0:00:32.180 --> 0:00:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Breitbart and for your audience.

0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.019
<v Speaker 1>Well, we're all trying to do it for the audience.

0:00:37.060 --> 0:00:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is why we exist. We're trying to

0:00:38.780 --> 0:00:41.540
<v Speaker 1>keep people on the straight and narrow and logical, reasonable

0:00:41.580 --> 0:00:43.840
<v Speaker 1>path and keep our country alive. I mean, Lord Almighty,

0:00:43.860 --> 0:00:45.620
<v Speaker 1>we see what's going on in France. We're about half

0:00:45.659 --> 0:00:51.769
<v Speaker 1>a baby step away from that reality. Your background is tremendous.

0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.650
<v Speaker 1>I have to just note, because your bio talks about

0:00:54.670 --> 0:00:57.430
<v Speaker 1>your long-term relationship with Andrew Breitbart, you were the first

0:00:57.490 --> 0:01:00.790
<v Speaker 1>Breitbart employee... and you started out in his basement. You

0:01:00.830 --> 0:01:03.270
<v Speaker 1>started out and you met him in college, and your

0:01:03.310 --> 0:01:07.410
<v Speaker 1>first career move was to take a huge risk by

0:01:07.569 --> 0:01:09.330
<v Speaker 1>working in the basement. And I got a kick out

0:01:09.350 --> 0:01:10.929
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that you were in charge of making

0:01:10.990 --> 0:01:12.589
<v Speaker 1>sure there was Diet Coke in the fridge. I had

0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:14.820
<v Speaker 1>a similar experience. I left a very large law firm

0:01:14.860 --> 0:01:18.360
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. A couple of partners broke off and asked

0:01:18.380 --> 0:01:20.899
<v Speaker 1>me to come with them. So we started out in

0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.180
<v Speaker 1>a conference room in a rented space, and I was

0:01:23.220 --> 0:01:26.350
<v Speaker 1>in charge of coffee procurement. So You've got to do

0:01:26.370 --> 0:01:28.190
<v Speaker 1>the little things when you're starting off in a new business.

0:01:28.209 --> 0:01:29.729
<v Speaker 1>But it all worked out great for you, and I'm

0:01:29.770 --> 0:01:31.520
<v Speaker 1>happy with where I ended up. And I'm glad you're

0:01:31.530 --> 0:01:34.800
<v Speaker 1>doing the Empower You seminar tonight because I need you

0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to react to this. Because one of the things you're

0:01:36.580 --> 0:01:39.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be doing, the topic, economics polls and trolls

0:01:39.700 --> 0:01:45.240
<v Speaker 1>with Alex Marlowe. Can we believe what we see online?

0:01:45.300 --> 0:01:47.250
<v Speaker 1>One of the rhetorical questions you're going to dive on into.

0:01:47.330 --> 0:01:48.780
<v Speaker 2>Today....

0:01:49.270 --> 0:01:51.130
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're familiar with the gubernatorial race

0:01:51.150 --> 0:01:54.590
<v Speaker 1>here in Ohio, but it's Vivek Ramaswamy, demonstrably better candidate

0:01:54.610 --> 0:01:56.950
<v Speaker 1>than Amy Acton. But Amy Acton's mom just made a

0:01:56.990 --> 0:02:00.420
<v Speaker 1>commercial for a pack where she specifically calls out her

0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:05.120
<v Speaker 1>own daughter, a liar. My name is Donna Arthur, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

0:02:05.140 --> 0:02:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I love my daughter, but when I saw her lying

0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.620
<v Speaker 1>about her opponent, it's not easy for a mother to

0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.150
<v Speaker 1>say this, but Amy has a serious problem. She is

0:02:11.270 --> 0:02:13.450
<v Speaker 1>a liar. She lies about her past. She says she

0:02:13.490 --> 0:02:15.130
<v Speaker 1>grew up living in a tent. None of that's true.

0:02:15.550 --> 0:02:18.410
<v Speaker 1>She's lied her entire life. My daughter needs help, among

0:02:18.450 --> 0:02:21.530
<v Speaker 1>the other comments. My first reaction, Alex, and the reason

0:02:21.570 --> 0:02:23.590
<v Speaker 1>I bring that up, not just to remind my listening

0:02:23.650 --> 0:02:26.869
<v Speaker 1>audience about that going on, but my first reaction was,

0:02:27.230 --> 0:02:29.950
<v Speaker 1>this has to be AI. You know, I mean, we

0:02:29.990 --> 0:02:32.329
<v Speaker 1>can't tell the difference between truth and fiction with video

0:02:32.450 --> 0:02:35.490
<v Speaker 1>even these days. And I thought maybe someone got hook, line,

0:02:35.530 --> 0:02:38.260
<v Speaker 1>and sinker drawn into this because whose mom would say

0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.700
<v Speaker 1>something like that about Amy Acton? Well, apparently, Amy Acton's

0:02:41.740 --> 0:02:42.180
<v Speaker 1>mom would.

0:02:43.490 --> 0:02:46.110
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is an everyday occurrence where there's something online

0:02:46.130 --> 0:02:48.750
<v Speaker 3>where you feel like, how could that possibly be real?

0:02:48.910 --> 0:02:50.790
<v Speaker 2>And then it does turn out to be real.

0:02:50.850 --> 0:02:52.810
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there was one with this French rioting over

0:02:52.850 --> 0:02:54.690
<v Speaker 3>the weekend where there was an old couple in their

0:02:54.730 --> 0:02:57.840
<v Speaker 3>underpants and a bunch of black-clad younger people taking stuff

0:02:57.850 --> 0:02:58.090
<v Speaker 3>from them.

0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.540
<v Speaker 2>That can't be real. Oh, no, it was real. There's

0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.700
<v Speaker 2>an Elon Musk flying car from last weekend. How is

0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:03.880
<v Speaker 2>that real? Apparently it was.

0:03:04.900 --> 0:03:07.580
<v Speaker 3>Each and every day we get another example of something

0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:08.400
<v Speaker 3>where we can't tell if it's true.

0:03:08.460 --> 0:03:11.300
<v Speaker 2>It was Alyssa Slotkin.

0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.230
<v Speaker 3>Yesterday, who is saying flat out she is going to

0:03:16.070 --> 0:03:19.669
<v Speaker 3>prosecute and to hold legally accountable anyone who works for

0:03:19.710 --> 0:03:22.530
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump simply because they're Republicans.

0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:22.740
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:03:23.090 --> 0:03:23.830
<v Speaker 2>That's the type of stuff.

0:03:23.889 --> 0:03:25.530
<v Speaker 3>I wrote a whole book, which we discussed on the show,

0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.059
<v Speaker 3>Breaking the Law, my last book, about this phenomenon where

0:03:28.139 --> 0:03:30.579
<v Speaker 3>I have to convince people this is how the Democrats

0:03:30.620 --> 0:03:31.180
<v Speaker 3>are behaving.

0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:32.989
<v Speaker 2>And then she just flat out goes and says it.

0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.040
<v Speaker 3>I wrote 250 pages explaining that's how they really think.

0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:37.840
<v Speaker 3>And then I never had a quote like that where

0:03:37.860 --> 0:03:39.620
<v Speaker 3>they're just saying, hey, we're going to go after Republicans

0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.440
<v Speaker 3>just for the sake of being Republicans. I would have

0:03:41.460 --> 0:03:42.839
<v Speaker 3>killed for that quote when I was doing the book

0:03:42.860 --> 0:03:45.740
<v Speaker 3>because we all know that's what they think. They just

0:03:45.780 --> 0:03:47.760
<v Speaker 3>started saying it out loud. And again, I had the

0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.130
<v Speaker 3>same thought as you, Brian. That's got to be AI, right?

0:03:50.190 --> 0:03:52.930
<v Speaker 2>Like a clever Republican made that up and put those

0:03:52.970 --> 0:03:53.650
<v Speaker 2>words in their mouth.

0:03:53.690 --> 0:03:56.910
<v Speaker 1>Nope, they didn't. How are we to, you know, how

0:03:56.940 --> 0:03:58.740
<v Speaker 1>do we know what's true and what's not online?

0:03:58.780 --> 0:04:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I speak truth.

0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I try to rely on the most confident resources I

0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.580
<v Speaker 1>can come up with. I'm a fan of Breitbart. I

0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.700
<v Speaker 1>know you guys do your due diligence in your reporting.

0:04:08.020 --> 0:04:10.260
<v Speaker 1>You also, you know, link sources where some of the

0:04:10.300 --> 0:04:13.140
<v Speaker 1>information comes from. I'm a fan of the Wall Street Journal. Yes,

0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:14.520
<v Speaker 1>some of the things I like and some of the

0:04:14.540 --> 0:04:17.820
<v Speaker 1>things I don't, but they do good, credible journalism and

0:04:17.860 --> 0:04:23.270
<v Speaker 1>they're good at fact checking but once you gravitate over

0:04:23.350 --> 0:04:26.150
<v Speaker 1>to one of the more suspect sources and that's kind

0:04:26.190 --> 0:04:29.090
<v Speaker 1>of any other side page that doesn't get as many

0:04:29.130 --> 0:04:31.810
<v Speaker 1>hits isn't known for the you know what they do

0:04:32.230 --> 0:04:35.589
<v Speaker 1>then we're lost in a in almost an unnavigable environment

0:04:35.710 --> 0:04:37.390
<v Speaker 1>alex how do we deal with something like.

0:04:37.270 --> 0:04:40.980
<v Speaker 3>That yeah it's tough i actually if it's some people

0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.200
<v Speaker 3>see this as maybe a positive others probably less of

0:04:44.260 --> 0:04:47.620
<v Speaker 3>a positive but I don't think the AI slop, as

0:04:47.670 --> 0:04:49.690
<v Speaker 3>we call it, that we're seeing online, I don't think

0:04:49.750 --> 0:04:53.349
<v Speaker 3>it's less accurate than the previous age of media fact checking.

0:04:53.430 --> 0:04:56.030
<v Speaker 3>I think the previous age of media fact checking was

0:04:56.070 --> 0:05:00.170
<v Speaker 3>somehow even worse. And so we've garbage in and garbage out,

0:05:00.270 --> 0:05:03.210
<v Speaker 3>but some of the AI models, particularly Grok, seem to

0:05:03.250 --> 0:05:06.729
<v Speaker 3>be less biased than any sort of major newsroom that

0:05:06.850 --> 0:05:09.130
<v Speaker 3>you would see. And so they were putting out false

0:05:09.170 --> 0:05:12.299
<v Speaker 3>stuff all the time. And Again, not to plug.

0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:12.740
<v Speaker 2>All my books.

0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not making money off of these books anymore at

0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:16.680
<v Speaker 3>this point, guys. So if you buy one of my books,

0:05:16.700 --> 0:05:18.849
<v Speaker 3>it's just because I believe in what I wrote in it.

0:05:19.140 --> 0:05:21.099
<v Speaker 3>My first book, Breaking the News, I wrote about the media.

0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.099
<v Speaker 3>And I talked about the agendas the media has.

0:05:24.300 --> 0:05:25.820
<v Speaker 2>But I go through all these examples. They were just

0:05:25.900 --> 0:05:26.700
<v Speaker 2>blatantly false.

0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.620
<v Speaker 3>They would ride not for a story or two stories,

0:05:29.660 --> 0:05:31.760
<v Speaker 3>but for months and months and months, just the same

0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.789
<v Speaker 3>falsehoods repeated over and over again. And I do think

0:05:35.110 --> 0:05:38.390
<v Speaker 3>in an AI era, we actually could probably fight through

0:05:38.430 --> 0:05:40.050
<v Speaker 3>those news cycles a little quicker.

0:05:40.540 --> 0:05:42.520
<v Speaker 2>So the best thing that you could do.

0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.550
<v Speaker 3>Is you try to find sources that are consistently accurate

0:05:46.020 --> 0:05:48.909
<v Speaker 3>because we're all busy. And then if you do find

0:05:48.970 --> 0:05:52.470
<v Speaker 3>something that you feel like is suspect, try to see

0:05:52.510 --> 0:05:55.250
<v Speaker 3>if it appears at one of those sources you trust.

0:05:55.290 --> 0:05:57.570
<v Speaker 3>And if it doesn't, then that's a good time to

0:05:57.630 --> 0:05:59.330
<v Speaker 3>run it through a rock or something like that and say,

0:05:59.350 --> 0:06:00.930
<v Speaker 3>is this true? And you're not going to get 100%

0:06:00.930 --> 0:06:03.550
<v Speaker 3>batting average doing that. But for busy people, that's generally

0:06:03.589 --> 0:06:04.290
<v Speaker 3>a pretty good process.

0:06:04.779 --> 0:06:07.380
<v Speaker 1>Indeed. And I guess one of my concerns along those

0:06:07.420 --> 0:06:11.400
<v Speaker 1>lines is the learning models that these AI systems use,

0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.540
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of a volume-based thing. I recall a Reddit

0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.300
<v Speaker 1>subgroup conducted a test, and the purpose was to perpetuate

0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.400
<v Speaker 1>an absolute outright lie. I mean, it was bizarre. Like, J.D.

0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.690
<v Speaker 1>Vance was dead, or J.D. Vance killed Donald Trump, or

0:06:25.730 --> 0:06:28.590
<v Speaker 1>something really crazy. And it involved even more something, even

0:06:28.630 --> 0:06:30.630
<v Speaker 1>something crazier than that. But they went around and they

0:06:30.690 --> 0:06:33.010
<v Speaker 1>repeated it, and they put it on different news sites,

0:06:33.050 --> 0:06:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and they posted it elsewhere. So repetition appeared ultimately to

0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.580
<v Speaker 1>give credibility to it so much so that when you

0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.820
<v Speaker 1>typed in a question about that in AI, it confirmed

0:06:43.860 --> 0:06:45.660
<v Speaker 1>at least to a certain degree that that lie was

0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.430
<v Speaker 1>in fact true. I mean, that's a reality that we

0:06:48.450 --> 0:06:50.409
<v Speaker 1>might run into unless they change the learning model.

0:06:50.450 --> 0:06:54.970
<v Speaker 3>We're definitely, particularly with you, Anthropic and ChatGPT, which is

0:06:55.190 --> 0:06:58.669
<v Speaker 3>open AI, both are very left and everyone there is left.

0:06:58.850 --> 0:07:00.610
<v Speaker 3>And we're going to have the same issues as we've

0:07:00.650 --> 0:07:03.400
<v Speaker 3>seen with Google searches with a By the way, so

0:07:03.420 --> 0:07:05.480
<v Speaker 3>anything Gemini is going to be the same thing where

0:07:05.580 --> 0:07:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Google basically banishes a lot of conservative sites from their results.

0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:12.700
<v Speaker 3>And so this has been a big thing in the

0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.760
<v Speaker 3>news business lately, Brian, is that a lot of these

0:07:14.810 --> 0:07:17.970
<v Speaker 3>websites are losing tons of traffic now because of AI,

0:07:18.130 --> 0:07:20.510
<v Speaker 3>because people are going to AI instead of Google and

0:07:20.530 --> 0:07:23.400
<v Speaker 3>they relied on Google for their traffic. Well, I can't

0:07:23.420 --> 0:07:25.580
<v Speaker 3>rely on Google for my traffic because we're basically banned

0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.520
<v Speaker 3>from Google. Again, something that we've researched and reported on

0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.720
<v Speaker 3>repeatedly shows up in my first book as well, how

0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Google doesn't allow for people to get to Breitbart stuff

0:07:35.180 --> 0:07:37.730
<v Speaker 3>unless you put the word Breitbart in the search. So

0:07:37.750 --> 0:07:40.570
<v Speaker 3>unless you physically search the word Breitbart, you're not getting

0:07:40.610 --> 0:07:42.850
<v Speaker 3>any of our stories, even if they're exclusive or the

0:07:42.890 --> 0:07:46.510
<v Speaker 3>authoritative story on that subject matter, which is horrific.

0:07:46.810 --> 0:07:49.070
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how it's legal, but it's held

0:07:49.210 --> 0:07:51.650
<v Speaker 2>up to this point. But so then I'm not dependent

0:07:51.690 --> 0:07:51.910
<v Speaker 2>on them.

0:07:52.010 --> 0:07:54.260
<v Speaker 3>A lot of these websites that you read, a lot

0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.860
<v Speaker 3>of these newspapers that you read are dependent on Google

0:07:56.900 --> 0:07:59.360
<v Speaker 3>funneling them tons of traffic. And people aren't going to

0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.580
<v Speaker 3>Google to figure out what's going on. They're going to

0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.160
<v Speaker 3>their AIs at this point. So it's kind of interesting

0:08:04.180 --> 0:08:06.690
<v Speaker 3>that that's a new thing. They're going to get hoisted

0:08:06.810 --> 0:08:08.730
<v Speaker 3>on their own petard, as the expression goes.

0:08:08.890 --> 0:08:11.270
<v Speaker 1>Well, one might hope, but I mean, a lot of

0:08:11.310 --> 0:08:14.450
<v Speaker 1>my listeners, I always consider myself like you. We can

0:08:14.490 --> 0:08:17.570
<v Speaker 1>label ourselves, and it's a positive, weed dwellers when it

0:08:17.610 --> 0:08:20.160
<v Speaker 1>comes to politics. We can label ourselves weed-drawers when it

0:08:20.220 --> 0:08:23.660
<v Speaker 1>comes to ferreting through nefarious information versus accurate information. We

0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.500
<v Speaker 1>can search for the truth because we know the trusted

0:08:26.580 --> 0:08:29.300
<v Speaker 1>news sites, and you, as you pointed out, know how

0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the quote-unquote nefarious forces work, like your illustration with Google.

0:08:34.380 --> 0:08:37.550
<v Speaker 1>But how are the run-of-the-mill folks who've got more important

0:08:37.590 --> 0:08:39.589
<v Speaker 1>things to do with their lives and follow the minutiae

0:08:39.610 --> 0:08:42.089
<v Speaker 1>of this, how are we out there supposed to deal

0:08:42.130 --> 0:08:44.530
<v Speaker 1>with this in this emerging brave new world, if I

0:08:44.550 --> 0:08:46.670
<v Speaker 1>can call that, drawing Aldous Huxley reference?

0:08:47.820 --> 0:08:49.859
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm new as much as I can on the

0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.230
<v Speaker 3>politics and international news front at Breitbart.com.

0:08:53.250 --> 0:08:54.710
<v Speaker 2>So you get the Breitbart app. It's the best thing

0:08:54.730 --> 0:08:56.010
<v Speaker 2>you can do. That's number one.

0:08:56.929 --> 0:08:59.170
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the first thing you can do because

0:08:59.230 --> 0:09:02.050
<v Speaker 3>if we're doing stuff, you know it's accurate because, first

0:09:02.070 --> 0:09:03.370
<v Speaker 3>of all, we have morals and standards.

0:09:03.410 --> 0:09:05.949
<v Speaker 2>But second of all, the fact-checkers are on our case.

0:09:06.390 --> 0:09:09.929
<v Speaker 2>So anything that is wrong, we're getting corrected the moment

0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:10.339
<v Speaker 2>it happens.

0:09:10.860 --> 0:09:13.439
<v Speaker 3>And all of you guys are good fact-checkers too. So

0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.510
<v Speaker 3>we keep an eye on what our audience is telling us.

0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.380
<v Speaker 3>If they think something is inaccurate, then they're not going

0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:21.230
<v Speaker 3>to get it. But overall, I think that there is

0:09:21.309 --> 0:09:24.390
<v Speaker 3>a huge crisis in credibility and trust in the media,

0:09:24.470 --> 0:09:27.490
<v Speaker 3>and it's on individual outlets to be able to sort

0:09:27.510 --> 0:09:30.709
<v Speaker 3>it out. But the people are smart, and there's lots

0:09:30.750 --> 0:09:33.970
<v Speaker 3>of volume. So if you go to– again, if you're

0:09:34.030 --> 0:09:38.890
<v Speaker 3>skeptical of a story, I would recommend going to Grok

0:09:39.090 --> 0:09:41.170
<v Speaker 3>or X, the Everything app, and putting it in the

0:09:41.230 --> 0:09:41.890
<v Speaker 3>Grok thing.

0:09:42.610 --> 0:09:43.609
<v Speaker 2>Saying, is this accurate?

0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.589
<v Speaker 3>And usually you're going to get a pretty good sense

0:09:45.650 --> 0:09:47.310
<v Speaker 3>of if something's accurate at that point.

0:09:47.710 --> 0:09:49.449
<v Speaker 2>And if you're not convinced, then just don't repeat it

0:09:49.470 --> 0:09:51.110
<v Speaker 2>to your friends or don't share it with people until

0:09:51.130 --> 0:09:51.410
<v Speaker 2>you are.

0:09:52.590 --> 0:09:55.390
<v Speaker 1>That's sound advice right there, Alex. Well, and you know,

0:09:55.410 --> 0:09:58.709
<v Speaker 1>the idea of social media influencers, perhaps that people, and

0:09:58.750 --> 0:10:02.360
<v Speaker 1>here's my, my often repeated rules for memes. I get

0:10:02.420 --> 0:10:04.340
<v Speaker 1>memes all the time. I have friends who are just

0:10:04.500 --> 0:10:06.959
<v Speaker 1>meme fanatics. So I'll get, I'll get 15, 20 in

0:10:06.980 --> 0:10:10.710
<v Speaker 1>a row from some folks. Sometimes you're like, wow. But

0:10:10.780 --> 0:10:13.950
<v Speaker 1>most of the times I'm, wait a second, that can't

0:10:14.070 --> 0:10:16.170
<v Speaker 1>be true. So I'll follow up with it and I'll

0:10:16.190 --> 0:10:17.929
<v Speaker 1>type in the information that's in a meme and I'll

0:10:17.970 --> 0:10:20.740
<v Speaker 1>find out, yeah, you know, Andy sent me another one

0:10:20.780 --> 0:10:23.540
<v Speaker 1>that sounds plausible, but it is not true. So maybe

0:10:23.580 --> 0:10:26.500
<v Speaker 1>we need to fact check what we're hearing from social

0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.410
<v Speaker 1>media influencers online and various podcasts online.

0:10:30.010 --> 0:10:32.290
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm very interested in exploring this. I was thinking

0:10:32.330 --> 0:10:40.060
<v Speaker 3>about this recently about how the memes, the individual influencers online,

0:10:40.300 --> 0:10:45.300
<v Speaker 3>particularly I've been noticing this on the meta platform, Instagram,

0:10:45.740 --> 0:10:48.300
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not on Facebook a lot, and I'm not

0:10:48.340 --> 0:10:50.020
<v Speaker 3>on TikTok a lot, but I know the stuff on

0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.220
<v Speaker 3>TikTok is just completely deranged. At this point, TikTok's 100%

0:10:53.220 --> 0:10:56.570
<v Speaker 3>responsible for the Lindsay Clancy phenomenon that we all were

0:10:56.610 --> 0:10:59.630
<v Speaker 3>forced to live through that was completely egged on by TikTok.

0:11:00.130 --> 0:11:03.890
<v Speaker 3>There's so much false stuff from individual creators that's promoted

0:11:03.929 --> 0:11:07.050
<v Speaker 3>in the algorithms, and then it'll get hundreds of thousands

0:11:07.090 --> 0:11:09.910
<v Speaker 3>of likes on it, And as a person who runs

0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.520
<v Speaker 3>a pretty big newsroom, I feel very odd, you know,

0:11:12.540 --> 0:11:17.460
<v Speaker 3>correcting some person with 12,000 followers who had one viral post,

0:11:17.500 --> 0:11:21.860
<v Speaker 3>but the algorithm does keep pushing the inaccurate posts because

0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.600
<v Speaker 3>people engage with it. And that is a curse. It

0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.739
<v Speaker 3>really is a curse that we're dealing with this right now.

0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.200
<v Speaker 3>And it's very hard to fight through it, especially when

0:11:30.220 --> 0:11:34.360
<v Speaker 3>you're seeing, you know, Mark Zuckerberg 2.0 is he's been

0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of cool to Trump all of a sudden. And so,

0:11:36.990 --> 0:11:39.110
<v Speaker 3>What's the Trump administration going to do? Just go in

0:11:39.150 --> 0:11:41.570
<v Speaker 3>there and say, hey, Mark, all these false stuff that

0:11:41.590 --> 0:11:43.790
<v Speaker 3>make us look bad are going viral. Can you shut

0:11:43.809 --> 0:11:46.380
<v Speaker 3>that down? It's kind of a weird move. It's kind

0:11:46.410 --> 0:11:47.740
<v Speaker 3>of a weird move if the White House were to

0:11:47.780 --> 0:11:50.340
<v Speaker 3>do that. So it's a real new frontier that we're in,

0:11:50.460 --> 0:11:52.059
<v Speaker 3>and we've got to work through it each and every day.

0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, haven't we been through that or down that road

0:11:54.020 --> 0:11:57.980
<v Speaker 1>before with the prior administration and having agents inside Facebooks

0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and other social media platforms?

0:12:00.380 --> 0:12:02.929
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think it's not a great look when

0:12:03.690 --> 0:12:06.920
<v Speaker 3>you learn that Joe Biden was pressuring Trump zuckerberg to

0:12:07.059 --> 0:12:09.880
<v Speaker 3>change stuff in the election zuckerberg said so it's not

0:12:09.900 --> 0:12:11.520
<v Speaker 3>a great look so trump's got to be thinking about

0:12:11.570 --> 0:12:13.650
<v Speaker 3>that but you know on the zuckerberg platforms there's just

0:12:13.710 --> 0:12:16.830
<v Speaker 3>tons and tons of far-left falsehoods that go viral every

0:12:16.850 --> 0:12:19.270
<v Speaker 3>day and a lot of people aren't going to be

0:12:19.830 --> 0:12:21.950
<v Speaker 3>smart about sorting it out is that your audience will

0:12:22.010 --> 0:12:25.650
<v Speaker 3>my audience will but that's not the whole world unfortunately.

0:12:25.530 --> 0:12:27.490
<v Speaker 1>Well and going back to the number of clicks likes

0:12:27.630 --> 0:12:30.530
<v Speaker 1>reposts we can't even trust that. I mean, there are

0:12:30.590 --> 0:12:34.929
<v Speaker 1>bot farms out there that self-serving, politically motivated Chinese Communist

0:12:34.970 --> 0:12:38.670
<v Speaker 1>Party bot farms that seek to undermine America's interests and

0:12:38.710 --> 0:12:41.230
<v Speaker 1>will stir the pot of whatever it's in its best

0:12:41.270 --> 0:12:45.089
<v Speaker 1>interest by giving the appearance that any given post is popular.

0:12:46.070 --> 0:12:47.670
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally, totally right.

0:12:47.740 --> 0:12:50.120
<v Speaker 3>It's very, it's just, it's so challenging out there in

0:12:50.140 --> 0:12:53.400
<v Speaker 3>this regard because so many people buy followers so you

0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.340
<v Speaker 3>think they're credible because you have a lot of followers,

0:12:55.380 --> 0:12:56.939
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of them aren't real. There's a lot

0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.569
<v Speaker 3>of followers who are, you know, foreign, but, but that

0:13:00.590 --> 0:13:02.610
<v Speaker 3>just means we can't count who they are. It's not

0:13:02.630 --> 0:13:04.750
<v Speaker 3>that I, we have an international audience too.

0:13:04.790 --> 0:13:05.230
<v Speaker 2>That's great.

0:13:05.330 --> 0:13:07.210
<v Speaker 3>But a lot of them are these farms that are

0:13:07.250 --> 0:13:10.429
<v Speaker 3>overseas and they're simulating lots of people and they're not

0:13:11.070 --> 0:13:12.670
<v Speaker 3>in a lot of the engagement. You can see a

0:13:12.670 --> 0:13:15.090
<v Speaker 3>lot of the engagement on certain platforms is AI. I

0:13:15.130 --> 0:13:18.429
<v Speaker 3>noticed this in my mentions on certain platforms that a

0:13:18.470 --> 0:13:20.350
<v Speaker 3>lot of it is just clearly not a human being

0:13:20.390 --> 0:13:22.670
<v Speaker 3>who wrote it. It's just really sloppy AI stuff that

0:13:23.130 --> 0:13:24.860
<v Speaker 3>people are doing to try to build their own accounts

0:13:24.890 --> 0:13:27.870
<v Speaker 3>by engaging with other accounts. And It is very hard

0:13:27.890 --> 0:13:29.880
<v Speaker 3>to sort out what's real and what's fiction now. So

0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.880
<v Speaker 3>that's why I recommend get some books, go take a walk,

0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:34.880
<v Speaker 3>go touch some grass. Don't spend your whole day on

0:13:34.900 --> 0:13:35.280
<v Speaker 3>the Internet.

0:13:35.940 --> 0:13:39.360
<v Speaker 1>And log in at 7 p.m. EmpowerYouAmerica.org where my guest

0:13:39.380 --> 0:13:42.790
<v Speaker 1>today from Breitbart, Alex Marlow, will be doing economics, polls,

0:13:42.970 --> 0:13:45.710
<v Speaker 1>and trolls. You can talk to him, ask questions. This

0:13:45.730 --> 0:13:47.429
<v Speaker 1>is going to be a nice one. You have interactive exchange,

0:13:47.470 --> 0:13:49.170
<v Speaker 1>and he can give you a lot more information about

0:13:49.190 --> 0:13:51.030
<v Speaker 1>what we scratched the surface on this morning on the

0:13:51.090 --> 0:13:54.330
<v Speaker 1>Breitbart Inside Scoop. Thank you, Alex, for everything that you

0:13:54.350 --> 0:13:56.510
<v Speaker 1>do throughout the week. I appreciate your teaming up with

0:13:56.910 --> 0:13:58.970
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Breitbart so many years ago and doing the great

0:13:59.010 --> 0:14:01.220
<v Speaker 1>work that he started. I look forward to having your

0:14:01.260 --> 0:14:03.380
<v Speaker 1>team back on the program next Tuesday at the same time.

0:14:03.420 --> 0:14:05.620
<v Speaker 1>Have a great week and enjoy the seminar tonight, my friend.