WEBVTT - Rhodesian Bush War

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<v Speaker 1>It is the Jesse Kelly Show in Woo Hoo. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>it is time.

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<v Speaker 2>To do history. I will be back with more politics

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<v Speaker 2>in the final hour, where we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the COVID shot information that's coming out another museum. Heighst

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<v Speaker 2>medical schools are horrible, people are leaving college. I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to emails. All that stuff is coming, but it ain't

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<v Speaker 2>coming right now because it is our two and we

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<v Speaker 2>are smack dab in the middle of our history on

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<v Speaker 2>the Rhodesian Bush War. Again reminding you parts one and

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<v Speaker 2>part two with all kinds of background that was last

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<v Speaker 2>night in the night before. You gotta go download the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast if you want that. I think you will find

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<v Speaker 2>it helpful. Not a requirement at all to understand kind

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<v Speaker 2>of where we're at now where we pick up today,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it would be incredibly helpful. Now, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the state of Rhodesia. Let's first talk about voting,

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<v Speaker 2>shall we. I posed a question to you last night

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of our little history segment. I posed

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<v Speaker 2>a question to you about us, about our country, your country,

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<v Speaker 2>my country, Who should be able to vote? And I

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<v Speaker 2>think we agreed last night that there should be some restrictions. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We may disagree on what those restrictions might be. But

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want ten year olds to have a vote, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want felons sitting in the joint getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the electric chair tomorrow. You don't want

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<v Speaker 2>them to have a vote. Right. You don't want illegals

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<v Speaker 2>to vote to you. Okay, So no matter what you agree,

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<v Speaker 2>there should be some restrictions. Now, I'm going to play

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<v Speaker 2>you something. I know we're doing history, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to play you something I played at last hour. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>Shri Indiana Jones of Michigan. I am sick of your lives.

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<v Speaker 1>The American people are sick of this lies.

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<v Speaker 2>American people demand truth. America is there? Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>if we add higher voting standards in this country that

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<v Speaker 2>Sri Indiana Jones would be a member of Congress? Play Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what? Give me a favorite, Chris grab Hank

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson Guam tipping over. We haven't played that one in ages.

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<v Speaker 2>It's years and years and years old. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>might be ten years old. The reason I bring it

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<v Speaker 2>up is Hank Johnson just got done calling America the

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<v Speaker 2>great Satan.

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<v Speaker 3>We are the world's number one bully, and we're using

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<v Speaker 3>our immense, unrifled power to rule over those who have

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<v Speaker 3>less power, and we're doing it with impunity. And this

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<v Speaker 3>sends a shot message to the world that America is

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<v Speaker 3>indeed the what did what did they used to call

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<v Speaker 3>it the Great Hand of Satan or something.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the same Hank Johnson back in the day who

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<v Speaker 2>said this, this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a island that at its widest level is what

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<v Speaker 4>twelve miles from shore to shore, and at its smallest

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<v Speaker 4>level or smallest location, it's seven miles between one shore

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<v Speaker 4>and the other. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the exact dimensions, but to your point, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Guam is a small island.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>My fear is that the whole island will become so

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<v Speaker 4>overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't anticipate that. Let me ask you an honest question,

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<v Speaker 2>funny as that is, if we had higher voting standards

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<v Speaker 2>in this country, do you think that person would still

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<v Speaker 2>be in Congress making decisions on laws that govern the

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<v Speaker 2>most powerful country on the planet, of course not. Rhodesia

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<v Speaker 2>was the wealthiest country in all of Africa. As I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned several times already paved roads, wonderful schools, doctors, lawyers,

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<v Speaker 2>great standard of living. You would have thought you were

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<v Speaker 2>in any modern American city. All the rest of Africa,

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<v Speaker 2>not all of it, but most of the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>Africa living in backwards conditions and men and there's this

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<v Speaker 2>jewel in Rhodesia. So who got to pick the government

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<v Speaker 2>of Rhodesia. Well, there were changes over time, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>but in general you had to qualify to vote, and

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<v Speaker 2>contrary to what all the do gooder commis around the

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<v Speaker 2>world said at the time, part of the qualification was

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<v Speaker 2>not the color of your skin, but there were literacy requirements,

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<v Speaker 2>property qualifications, you had to be a subject of the

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<v Speaker 2>British Empire. There were things, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>get too specific, because they changed. You know, pre nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty one they were more strict than Rhodesia. Trying to

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<v Speaker 2>try to roll back some things started to ease those restrictions.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, on the voting rolls, for instance, in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty one there were ninety five thousand white people

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<v Speaker 2>who were able to vote and there were twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred black apps Fricans who were able to vote. It

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<v Speaker 2>was not barring any skin color, but because the qualifications

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<v Speaker 2>were what they were, because there were standards, a large

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of the white Europeans in Rhodesia could vote and

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<v Speaker 2>a very small percentage of the Black Africans could vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that sounds extremely discriminatory, doesn't it. That sounds wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Surely everybody who reaches the age of eighteen should have

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<v Speaker 2>a say in the government, right. And the reason I

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<v Speaker 2>bring this up is it's going to become a central

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<v Speaker 2>theme of our story. Rhodesia didn't see it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Rhodesia enjoyed its standard of living, enjoyed the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>country it was. But here's a problem, you see, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big problem. You've heard of the Labor government,

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<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party, I should say, of Britain. I've told

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<v Speaker 2>you before, that's their Democrats, that's their Communist Party. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are the ones who run Britain. Now, that's why they're

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<v Speaker 2>massively importing Muslims from all over the planet to form

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<v Speaker 2>rape gangs, to pillage the British women. The Labor Party,

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<v Speaker 2>well in the nineteen sixties, there are things going on

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<v Speaker 2>globally that are going to essentially doom Rhodesia in the end,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of those things is the Labor Party was

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<v Speaker 2>running things in Britain. Combine that with this, the airfingers

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<v Speaker 2>quote civil rights movement globally is really really reaching its peak.

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<v Speaker 2>Now why did I say airfingers quote Because the civil

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<v Speaker 2>rights movement surely was only good, right, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you would agree with me that, Yeah, it's probably not

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<v Speaker 2>great to have black people eating at different restaurants, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a great way to run society. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>a just way to run society. The reason I gave

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<v Speaker 2>the airfingers quote thing on it was, well, remember what

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about last hour. I've spoken before about this

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<v Speaker 2>many times. Let me use the example I've used before

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<v Speaker 2>in Montana in the Rocky Mountains. If you hike through

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<v Speaker 2>the Rocky Mountains in an area full of boulders, you

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<v Speaker 2>will inevitably come across one that looks It looks like

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<v Speaker 2>God pulled out his sword and sliced it in half.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just broken, it's this clean, smooth break. It's

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<v Speaker 2>odd looking. We're talking about a boulder the size of

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<v Speaker 2>your car sliced in two. Only God didn't use his sword.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, over time that boulder developed a little crack,

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<v Speaker 2>not big, you might not even really see it with

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<v Speaker 2>your eye, a little crack. What happened from there? Water, inevitably,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's snow melting, maybe it's rain. Water would get

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<v Speaker 2>in it, and then one night the temperature would drop

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<v Speaker 2>to such a degree that water would freeze. When water

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<v Speaker 2>freezes its spans, when it expanded, pop the rock shattered

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<v Speaker 2>into This is exactly what communists do in every single society.

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<v Speaker 2>They find existing cracks, legitimate cracks, by the way, oftentimes

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate cracks. They find the cracks in your society, They

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<v Speaker 2>get inside of that crack and they try to freeze

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<v Speaker 2>it to shatter the society. And the global communists most definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>the Soviets recognize the civil rights movement, not just in

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<v Speaker 2>America but other places, but the civil rights movement as

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible opportunity for them to shatter the country, and

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<v Speaker 2>they got involved in it. They were very focused about

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<v Speaker 2>being involved in it. They viewed it as an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to break America, to break Western civilization. This was going

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<v Speaker 2>on in many different countries in the nineteen sixties. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I already laid out the government of Rhodesia at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you think their government, how do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that's landing with the global civil rights do gooders on

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<v Speaker 2>the planet. Let me spoil it for you. It ain't

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<v Speaker 2>landing well and Britain decides they want to do something

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent

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<v Speaker 2>magnificent Thursday. Do not forget tomorrow's ask doctor Jesse Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to email your questions. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be political, doesn't matter what it is, history, food, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Email them into Jesse at jessekellyshow dot com. It is

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen sixties. The civil rights movement across the globe

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<v Speaker 2>has been invaded and infected by communists doing the best

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<v Speaker 2>they can to divide Western society. And of course Britain

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<v Speaker 2>has their Communists as well have our Democrats. They have

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<v Speaker 2>their Labor Party, the Labor government in Britain. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>like the look of Rhodesia right now. Yeah, of course

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<v Speaker 2>it's wealthy, it's prosperous, it's clean, it's wonderful. But not

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<v Speaker 2>everyone gets to vote. In fact, not very many Black

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<v Speaker 2>Africans get to vote. Lots of white Europeans get to vote,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they start pushing. Remember at this point, Rhodesia

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<v Speaker 2>is a British colony. I cannot stress that enough. A

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<v Speaker 2>British colony, meaning they are under the British crown. Britain says, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>how about one man, one vote, everyone gets to vote. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the government, the people of Rhodesia, they understandably said, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>look around at Africa. Do you have any idea what's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen if we allow everybody to have a

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<v Speaker 2>vote with no property requirements and know nothing of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you understand what will happen here? The whole place

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<v Speaker 2>will be over all this prosperity. The communists didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear it. One man, one vote, one man, one vote,

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over and over again. Now Rhodesha

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<v Speaker 2>has to make a choice. And keep in mind that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really skipping over some boring political negotiations. But Rhodesia's

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<v Speaker 2>government they were trying as hard as they could to

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever they had to do to work with Britain,

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<v Speaker 2>so they didn't have to do well what they're about

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<v Speaker 2>to do, meaning in nineteen sixty one they even changed

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<v Speaker 2>how they do the voting. They didn't change it completely,

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<v Speaker 2>but they opened it up a little bit more, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of introduced tiers to it. You could be in the

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<v Speaker 2>A tier. The beat again their work. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>massage the situation without giving up their country. Britain did

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<v Speaker 2>not want to hear it. Communists in Britain did not

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear it, and they said, no, you will

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<v Speaker 2>do this, and so Rhodesia they rebelled. There's no other

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<v Speaker 2>way to put it. In nineteen sixty five, rhodesha said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not a British colony anymore. Now we're ours, We're Rhodesia,

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<v Speaker 2>we're independent and this is how we're going to run things.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Now pause for a second. You have probably heard of

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<v Speaker 2>the SAS before, the Special Air Service. If you have not,

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<v Speaker 2>you should know that that is the British version of

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<v Speaker 2>the Navy Seals, and in fact they came about really

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<v Speaker 2>because of the British fighting in Northern Africa. They were

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<v Speaker 2>the guys parachuting behind enemy lines doing all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, special operations stuff. They are to this day,

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<v Speaker 2>bad to the bone, bad dudes. The British SAS well.

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<v Speaker 2>Up to this point, remember we're in the sixties Jijia's military.

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<v Speaker 2>They would work hand in hand with Britain's military because

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<v Speaker 2>again it's a British colony, and Rhodesia had an SAS

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<v Speaker 2>as well that trained with the British sas. Super super

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<v Speaker 2>bad dudes. You get what I'm saying. Rhodesia declares independence

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty five. Britain is so angry about this,

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<v Speaker 2>they actually consider a military response to the open rebellion

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<v Speaker 2>of the Rhodesian country of the Rhodesian government, and they

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<v Speaker 2>approached the British sas and start talking to them about it.

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<v Speaker 2>The British SAS had such a level of respect for

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<v Speaker 2>the Rhodesians they had trained with and worked with, the

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<v Speaker 2>British government essentially faced a mutiny from within their own

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<v Speaker 2>high level sas. The guys weren't going to go No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, I'm not You want me to attack Rhodesia. Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>Now you got to do something. If you're the British government, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't let open rebellion go, especially these white racists

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<v Speaker 2>in Rhodesia. And again, I want to remind you of

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<v Speaker 2>something I reminded you of last night. Over half of

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<v Speaker 2>the Rhodesian army was black Africans. This is not a

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<v Speaker 2>white versus black thing. How it was sold to the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Black Africans died with their European brothers in this war.

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<v Speaker 2>Europeans would give their lives to save Black Africans in

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<v Speaker 2>this war. This wasn't some Nazi that's not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>How it was. Yes, there were fewer black voters, no

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<v Speaker 2>question about it. It was not a white versus black thing. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Britain has to do something. So they essentially get the world,

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<v Speaker 2>that really most of the civilized world, to sanction Rhodesia.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a country that is landlocked. Keep in mind

0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:18.240
<v Speaker 2>they have no access to water, anything like that. Britain

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<v Speaker 2>slaps sanctions strict ones on Rhodesia. Now, this would normally

0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:30.040
<v Speaker 2>be about the end of any landlocked country, but Rhodesia,

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<v Speaker 2>to their credit, they had a couple friends and those

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<v Speaker 2>friends happen to be neighbors. We'll talk about those friends

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<v Speaker 2>some combat things in a moment. It is the Jesse

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly Show on a fantastic, fantastic Thursday. Remember to send

0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.080
<v Speaker 2>in your ask doctor Jesse questions for tomorrow. Remember you

0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.720
<v Speaker 2>can download the show iheard Spotify iTunes. Let's get back

0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:59.880
<v Speaker 2>to the story. Here nineteen sixty five, Rhodesha declares it's independence.

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<v Speaker 2>Britain is upset, to put it mildly, they get the

0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:08.800
<v Speaker 2>rest of the world and they themselves slap crippling sanctions

0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.320
<v Speaker 2>on Rhodesia, or I should say what should be crippling

0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:17.280
<v Speaker 2>sanctions on Rhodesia. But Rhodesia has a couple of friends.

0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.959
<v Speaker 2>Now we need to do something that I did with

0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.359
<v Speaker 2>you the first night, but we're probably going to do

0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.080
<v Speaker 2>this a couple more times because you have to visualize this.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to look at a map. You can,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want you to draw a circle in your mind,

0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.199
<v Speaker 2>or maybe you can draw one if you're a visual person.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to make this a clock. Okay, so

0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:41.200
<v Speaker 2>it's a clock. Now from twelve o'clock to six o'clock.

0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:45.280
<v Speaker 2>That's obviously half the clock. There is a country known

0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:52.520
<v Speaker 2>as Mozambique, all right, Mozambique. From twelve o'clock over to

0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.280
<v Speaker 2>let's call it ten o'clock. There is a country known

0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:03.840
<v Speaker 2>as Zambia. All right. From six o'clock to about eight

0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:07.119
<v Speaker 2>o'clock there is South Africa. Why am I doing this

0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.720
<v Speaker 2>slame clock thing? Because it matters so much for our

0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:16.719
<v Speaker 2>story South Africa. We will begin there. South Africa and

0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Rhodesia are as tight as tight can get. There are

0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:26.120
<v Speaker 2>so many South Africans in Rhodesia. They love each other,

0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:31.200
<v Speaker 2>they work together, they have similar forms of They our best, best,

0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.919
<v Speaker 2>best freaking friends. As far as countries go, South Africa

0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:40.720
<v Speaker 2>is a friend. When these sanctions get slapped on Rhodesia,

0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.600
<v Speaker 2>South Africa steps up and says, hey, we got you,

0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.200
<v Speaker 2>sell us your stuff. We'll continue to trade with each other.

0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.159
<v Speaker 2>South Africa also has and this will definitely matter for

0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:56.600
<v Speaker 2>our story. Throughout our story. They have that wonderful, wonderful

0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:03.040
<v Speaker 2>liquid gold known as oil. Keep Rhodesia's well supplied with oil.

0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:07.439
<v Speaker 2>They have a friend. Now, let's go to Mozambique. Remember

0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the twelve o'clock to six o'clock, big, big border with Rhodesia.

0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:17.480
<v Speaker 2>They're also friendly because Mozambique at this point, and this

0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.440
<v Speaker 2>will change. Spoiler alert, this is going to change. Mozambique

0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:26.480
<v Speaker 2>is run by the Portuguese. All right, the Portuguese Rhodesia.

0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:31.200
<v Speaker 2>They get along. They are still working with each other, trading.

0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Zambia the country in the northwest. Forget about them. We

0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.199
<v Speaker 2>are going to get to them. They're going to be

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:42.159
<v Speaker 2>featured here shortly. But Rhodesha has friends. What's the result

0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:46.320
<v Speaker 2>of this, They declare independence. All these sanctions they're supposed

0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:53.719
<v Speaker 2>to be bankrupted, Rhodesia's flourishing, flourishing. They went independent and

0:19:53.760 --> 0:20:00.720
<v Speaker 2>they're getting along really, really well. Now we have to

0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.320
<v Speaker 2>go globally again, because this will matter for the rest

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 2>of our story. Communists, it's a religion of destruction and domination.

0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:14.439
<v Speaker 2>As we've talked about so many times before, communism was

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:19.399
<v Speaker 2>never supposed to be about any one country. Communism was

0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 2>always designed, always pushed as being a global thing. At

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:29.719
<v Speaker 2>this point in history, the Soviet Union is chernin and burning,

0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:36.000
<v Speaker 2>China chernin and burning. These are communist countries and they

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:41.120
<v Speaker 2>are very very interested in spreading their communism globally. And

0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 2>they are then, just as they are now, very very

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 2>interested in the continent of Africa. Africa is gigantic, it

0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:54.679
<v Speaker 2>is strategically located. They have all kinds of resources that

0:20:54.840 --> 0:21:00.440
<v Speaker 2>every country wants. The communist nations on the planet want Africa,

0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and they want all of it. And they recognize there's

0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:11.360
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity here. We have this country called Rhodesia. Britain

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 2>has cut them off. And there's a crack, isn't there.

0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:21.080
<v Speaker 2>We're ready to discuss that crack. There are all kinds

0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:27.119
<v Speaker 2>of little villages and African reservations, essentially in Rhodesia, some

0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.920
<v Speaker 2>black Africans who have not had a standard of living

0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.840
<v Speaker 2>equal to the white Europeans. There's enough of a crack

0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:42.919
<v Speaker 2>there that can be exploited. And now terrorism starts. Terrorism

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 2>mainly from Zambia. Zambia. Remember it's that twelve o'clock to

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock the northwestern border, that's Zambia. The Soviets and

0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 2>the Chinese both form groups African communists, African nationalists, whatever

0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:09.439
<v Speaker 2>word you want to put on it, African groups. And

0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 2>they decide they're going to have a go at conquering Rhodesia.

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.639
<v Speaker 2>And they weren't even that subtle about it. The Soviets

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:23.200
<v Speaker 2>freaking gave them tanks. They would send advisors, Chinese advisors,

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Soviet advisors. How involved are the Soviets in Chinese and

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.160
<v Speaker 2>this will matter for the rest of our story. They

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:34.119
<v Speaker 2>would take African leaders and they would ship them to

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:38.480
<v Speaker 2>places like the Soviet Union, like China, like East Germany,

0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and they would ship them there for training. And I

0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 2>mean in depth training, not just weapons training, not just

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:51.440
<v Speaker 2>battle tactics. I'm talking about insurgency tactics, communist tactics. How

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.480
<v Speaker 2>do you infect a place? How do you infiltrate a place?

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:58.600
<v Speaker 2>How do you destroy a place? Training camps for the

0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Africans put on by the Soviets and the Chinese, and

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 2>the poor Rhodesians don't even understand what is about to

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 2>come their way, but they do. The night a white

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 2>farmer nineteen sixty six, a white farmer and his wife,

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.400
<v Speaker 2>they are ambushed and slaughtered on their farm. I need

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.679
<v Speaker 2>to set up something here. I already mentioned. Rhodesia is

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:24.679
<v Speaker 2>a huge country. I mentioned that last night, not so

0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 2>much to night. This is a very very big place.

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 2>It's not a small country. And they of course have

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:34.480
<v Speaker 2>these cities, these urban areas, but as I've said, farming, agriculture.

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 2>It's such a wonderful land for that. It's just made

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 2>for that. It was a huge part of their economy,

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 2>huge part of what they did. And there were these

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 2>huge farms that the Europeans ran and owned, and they

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 2>had of course Africans working on their Black Africans working

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 2>with them things like that. But these farms, as you

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.680
<v Speaker 2>can imagine, you can't put a farm in the middle

0:23:55.680 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 2>of the city. They are rural, rural farm. They're out there,

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 2>they're in the hinterlands. They're not right next to the

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 2>cop shop. This creates a security nightmare for Rhodesian farmers.

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 2>There will come a day we're not there yet in

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<v Speaker 2>our story where farmers will have twelve foot high security

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 2>fences all around their homes because they were worried their

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 2>kids couldn't go to the yard without a bunch of

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 2>gorillas chopping them up with machetes. That's how dangerous this

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 2>situation is. But they don't know this yet, right because

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the terror hasn't started. Well, the terror just began nineteen

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:41.679
<v Speaker 2>sixty six, white farmer and his wife butchered, butchered, and

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the Communists in Africa, in the Soviet Union in China,

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 2>they want the terror to increase, and they found I

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 2>was about to say an unlikely ally, but anyone even

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:59.439
<v Speaker 2>vaguely familiar with our political situation in the United States

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 2>of America will understand it's the most likely ally in

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the world, wouldn't you know it. Young college girls started

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>to help the international communists smuggle in weapons they could

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:19.400
<v Speaker 2>use to commit acts of terror. As I have said

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 2>many times, there is no more vicious, violent communist on

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 2>the planet than the liberal white woman. It's just a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>So we will continue with all this in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting ready to move into Ask doctor Jesse Friday. Get

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>your questions emailed into Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to our story of the Rhodesian Bush War, terrorist

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>attacks have begun. Russia has their own group of African

0:25:54.280 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>nationalists communists. China has their group of African nationalists communists.

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.919
<v Speaker 1>They are receiving training now again. I that's not that

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm apologizing, but I'm just gonna drop more details on

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you because the details are actually necessary. Most of the time,

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>details kill a story. But you have to understand this,

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>two different groups of African nationalists communists.

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there is Zapu. I'm not gonna go into what

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:27.959
<v Speaker 2>it stands for. That's a detail, doesn't matter. Zapoo backed

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:33.919
<v Speaker 2>by the Soviets. Then there's Zanu backed by the Chinese.

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about making sure you know who's back by

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 2>who Zapu backed by the Soviets, Zanu backed by the Chinese.

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 2>These organizations, as I said, are being trained by the

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Soviets in the Chinese in infiltration tactics. Rhodesia is not

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 2>fully aware of it yet, but war has already been

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 2>declared on them by the Soviets in the Chinese who

0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 2>want to make Rhodesia a communist country, and they start

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 2>by sending rebels over the border. In fact, let me

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 2>give you a summary of how this war is going

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 2>to go. Not to spoil the ending, but you probably

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 2>get it by now. Let me give you a summary

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 2>of how this war is going to go. There aren't

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 2>that many white Europeans in Rhodesia, right, two hundred thousand,

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>give or take two hundred thousand of them. It's not

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that big of a military. Twenty thousand again, give or take.

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.719
<v Speaker 2>It's going to depend on the time period twenty thousand.

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 2>In the military, the Communists are going to start setting

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 2>up shop in the countries around Rhodesia, and they're going

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 2>to start making incursions into the country. The military is

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 2>going to fly out and kill this incursion and kill

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 2>that incursion. They find ten guys here and twenty guys

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 2>there and they find this, and they find that. But

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 2>over time, as the world retreats on poor Rhodesia, the

0:27:53.680 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>incursions increase in volume, increase in frequency. You understand, this

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 2>is the very beginning of it. We're in like nineteen

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>sixty six here. What's happening now is the Rhodesian military,

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>which is elite, absolutely elite. There are a few different

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:14.640
<v Speaker 2>elements to the military. I want to mention right now.

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>They have an air force. Remember when I said South

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Africa and Rhodesia are super tight. About half of the

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Rhodesian air force is actually South African, South African pilots,

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>South African planes. That's how tight they are. That will

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 2>matter later on. So there's an air force. They have

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 2>the Rhodesian Light Infantry. Again, I want to stress over

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 2>half of the Rhodesian Light Infantry were Black Africans. This

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>is not a white versus black war. The Rhodesian Light

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Infantry amazing troops, amazing troops again, outdoor people, rugged people,

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>mandatory military service. They were amazing troops. And then there

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>were actually two different kind of special operations forces special

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Green Berets, baby seals. Okay, there were the Rhodesian sas

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I already mentioned them earlier. Bad dudes. And then there

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 2>is another group super super cool called the Sellus Scouts

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>or Seleuse Scouts. I've heard it pronounced a thousand different

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 2>ways as I was doing my research for the show.

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>These are all excellent units, top tier units. They are

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 2>having no problem hunting down and wiping out these rebels

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>right now because there simply aren't enough of them. You

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>should know, the first group of rebels who came across

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the border was not a big group, got hunted down

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 2>and annihilated almost immediately. They get located, hunted down, annihilated.

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 2>The air force is used, helicopters are used to they

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 2>have to stay mobile because there aren't enough of them

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>to just be stationed all over the country. They have

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to put them in various spots and then be ready

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to hop on a plane, hop on a helicopter, and

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 2>get where you're going. The use of Paris and helicopters

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 2>is something that will last throughout this war. All right,

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 2>group comes in, gets wiped out, group comes in, gets

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 2>wiped out. The Communists, though they're starting to get smarter

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>as they fail what they had initially tried to do

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>was as I mentioned, terrorist tactics. Hey, let's butcher a

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 2>farmer in the family. Let's throw a let's throw a

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 2>bomb in an ice cream shop. Let's just basic what

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 2>you would kind of recognize today as more Jihati terror tactics.

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 2>But the Rhodesian military, the Rhodesian Intelligence service was so good.

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 2>These tactics weren't working that great. They wanted the commis

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 2>needed more power, and so they started to do something.

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>They started to set up secret camps inside of the country,

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 2>inside Rhodesia. Remember, it's a huge place, so you don't

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>just send in ten idiots from Zambia. You try to

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 2>set up camps inside. Now, we were about to get

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 2>to a point where it's going to get very difficult

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>on the Rhodesians. But they're definitely winning right now. And

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 2>a huge part of why they're winning is these Kami

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 2>terrorists are coming from Zambia, virtually all of them from Zambia,

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>because Zambia is the one that's not a friend. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the border between Zambia and Rhodesia is a big river.

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<v Speaker 2>Rivers help provide security because they're hard to cross. They're

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<v Speaker 2>hard to cross unknown, that's for sure. The Rhodesians understand.

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<v Speaker 2>If they simply keep this river monitored, keep your patrols

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<v Speaker 2>up there, you should be able to locate and snuff

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<v Speaker 2>out all the Kami terrorists, either as they're coming or

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<v Speaker 2>shortly after they come. You hunt them down, you snuff

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<v Speaker 2>them out. And I mentioned earlier the sell Us Scouts

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<v Speaker 2>Seleuse Scouts. I'm just gonna call the Sellus Scouts. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to community college. They did so much cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things they were so good at the

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<v Speaker 2>SAS two. But it was tracking. It's wild when you

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<v Speaker 2>read the books how these guys would track. They'd be

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<v Speaker 2>out there in the bush and they'd come across sign

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<v Speaker 2>that terrorist groups had come, and they would just start

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<v Speaker 2>hunting them like they were animals, for a day, two days,

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<v Speaker 2>three days, following the tracks like like bloodhounds, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they'd finally find them. You make a phone call, you

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<v Speaker 2>bring in the troops. You kill them all. You find them,

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<v Speaker 2>make a phone call, bring in the troops, kill them all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know we're about to be done with our story.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get back to politics. Sometimes wounded terrorists

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get back to Zambia would be eaten by

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<v Speaker 2>crocodiles in the rivers. One guy I read a story

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<v Speaker 2>about he was wounded, got hunted down by a lion

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<v Speaker 2>the wild, wild. What's happening? But tomorrow something will happen

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<v Speaker 2>that will spell eventually disaster for the Rhodesians. That's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait till tomorrow or wait Monday, Chris, Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>not Tuesday. No, we're not making them wait till tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not right. No, No, tomorrow or Monday. We'll do

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<v Speaker 2>it Monday, all right. Our story continues on Monday. Back

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<v Speaker 2>to politics next