1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show in Woo Hoo. Indeed, 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: it is time. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: To do history. I will be back with more politics 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: in the final hour, where we're going to talk about 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: the COVID shot information that's coming out another museum. Heighst 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: medical schools are horrible, people are leaving college. I'll get 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: to emails. All that stuff is coming, but it ain't 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: coming right now because it is our two and we 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: are smack dab in the middle of our history on 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: the Rhodesian Bush War. Again reminding you parts one and 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: part two with all kinds of background that was last 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: night in the night before. You gotta go download the 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: podcast if you want that. I think you will find 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: it helpful. Not a requirement at all to understand kind 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: of where we're at now where we pick up today, 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: but I think it would be incredibly helpful. Now, let's 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: talk about the state of Rhodesia. Let's first talk about voting, 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: shall we. I posed a question to you last night 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: at the end of our little history segment. I posed 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: a question to you about us, about our country, your country, 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: my country, Who should be able to vote? And I 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: think we agreed last night that there should be some restrictions. Right. 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: We may disagree on what those restrictions might be. But 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: you don't want ten year olds to have a vote, right. 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: You don't want felons sitting in the joint getting ready 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: to go to the electric chair tomorrow. You don't want 27 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: them to have a vote. Right. You don't want illegals 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: to vote to you. Okay, So no matter what you agree, 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: there should be some restrictions. Now, I'm going to play 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: you something. I know we're doing history, but I'm going 31 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: to play you something I played at last hour. Here's 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: Shri Indiana Jones of Michigan. I am sick of your lives. 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: The American people are sick of this lies. 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: American people demand truth. America is there? Do you think 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: if we add higher voting standards in this country that 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: Sri Indiana Jones would be a member of Congress? Play Chris, 37 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: you know what? Give me a favorite, Chris grab Hank 38 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: Johnson Guam tipping over. We haven't played that one in ages. 39 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: It's years and years and years old. I think this 40 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: might be ten years old. The reason I bring it 41 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: up is Hank Johnson just got done calling America the 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: great Satan. 43 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: We are the world's number one bully, and we're using 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: our immense, unrifled power to rule over those who have 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: less power, and we're doing it with impunity. And this 46 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: sends a shot message to the world that America is 47 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: indeed the what did what did they used to call 48 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: it the Great Hand of Satan or something. 49 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: That's the same Hank Johnson back in the day who 50 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: said this, this. 51 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 4: Is a island that at its widest level is what 52 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: twelve miles from shore to shore, and at its smallest 53 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: level or smallest location, it's seven miles between one shore 54 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: and the other. Is that correct? 55 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: I don't have the exact dimensions, but to your point, sir, 56 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: I think Guam is a small island. 57 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 58 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: My fear is that the whole island will become so 59 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: overly populated that it will tip over and capsize. 60 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: We don't anticipate that. Let me ask you an honest question, 61 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: funny as that is, if we had higher voting standards 62 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: in this country, do you think that person would still 63 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: be in Congress making decisions on laws that govern the 64 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: most powerful country on the planet, of course not. Rhodesia 65 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: was the wealthiest country in all of Africa. As I 66 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: mentioned several times already paved roads, wonderful schools, doctors, lawyers, 67 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: great standard of living. You would have thought you were 68 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: in any modern American city. All the rest of Africa, 69 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: not all of it, but most of the rest of 70 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: Africa living in backwards conditions and men and there's this 71 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 2: jewel in Rhodesia. So who got to pick the government 72 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: of Rhodesia. Well, there were changes over time, by the way, 73 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: but in general you had to qualify to vote, and 74 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: contrary to what all the do gooder commis around the 75 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: world said at the time, part of the qualification was 76 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: not the color of your skin, but there were literacy requirements, 77 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: property qualifications, you had to be a subject of the 78 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: British Empire. There were things, and I don't want to 79 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: get too specific, because they changed. You know, pre nineteen 80 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: sixty one they were more strict than Rhodesia. Trying to 81 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: try to roll back some things started to ease those restrictions. 82 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: But you know, on the voting rolls, for instance, in 83 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty one there were ninety five thousand white people 84 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: who were able to vote and there were twenty two 85 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: hundred black apps Fricans who were able to vote. It 86 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: was not barring any skin color, but because the qualifications 87 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: were what they were, because there were standards, a large 88 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: percentage of the white Europeans in Rhodesia could vote and 89 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: a very small percentage of the Black Africans could vote. 90 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: Now that sounds extremely discriminatory, doesn't it. That sounds wrong. 91 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: Surely everybody who reaches the age of eighteen should have 92 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: a say in the government, right. And the reason I 93 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: bring this up is it's going to become a central 94 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: theme of our story. Rhodesia didn't see it that way. 95 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: Rhodesia enjoyed its standard of living, enjoyed the kind of 96 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 2: country it was. But here's a problem, you see, and 97 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: it's a big problem. You've heard of the Labor government, 98 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: the Labor Party, I should say, of Britain. I've told 99 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: you before, that's their Democrats, that's their Communist Party. Those 100 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: are the ones who run Britain. Now, that's why they're 101 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: massively importing Muslims from all over the planet to form 102 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: rape gangs, to pillage the British women. The Labor Party, 103 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: well in the nineteen sixties, there are things going on 104 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: globally that are going to essentially doom Rhodesia in the end, 105 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: and one of those things is the Labor Party was 106 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: running things in Britain. Combine that with this, the airfingers 107 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 2: quote civil rights movement globally is really really reaching its peak. 108 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: Now why did I say airfingers quote Because the civil 109 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: rights movement surely was only good, right, and I think 110 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: you would agree with me that, Yeah, it's probably not 111 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: great to have black people eating at different restaurants, and 112 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: that's not a great way to run society. That's not 113 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: a just way to run society. The reason I gave 114 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: the airfingers quote thing on it was, well, remember what 115 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: we talked about last hour. I've spoken before about this 116 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: many times. Let me use the example I've used before 117 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: in Montana in the Rocky Mountains. If you hike through 118 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: the Rocky Mountains in an area full of boulders, you 119 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: will inevitably come across one that looks It looks like 120 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: God pulled out his sword and sliced it in half. 121 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: It's not just broken, it's this clean, smooth break. It's 122 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: odd looking. We're talking about a boulder the size of 123 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: your car sliced in two. Only God didn't use his sword. 124 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: You see, over time that boulder developed a little crack, 125 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: not big, you might not even really see it with 126 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: your eye, a little crack. What happened from there? Water, inevitably, 127 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: maybe it's snow melting, maybe it's rain. Water would get 128 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: in it, and then one night the temperature would drop 129 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: to such a degree that water would freeze. When water 130 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: freezes its spans, when it expanded, pop the rock shattered 131 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: into This is exactly what communists do in every single society. 132 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: They find existing cracks, legitimate cracks, by the way, oftentimes 133 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: legitimate cracks. They find the cracks in your society, They 134 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: get inside of that crack and they try to freeze 135 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: it to shatter the society. And the global communists most definitely, 136 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: the Soviets recognize the civil rights movement, not just in 137 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: America but other places, but the civil rights movement as 138 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: an incredible opportunity for them to shatter the country, and 139 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: they got involved in it. They were very focused about 140 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: being involved in it. They viewed it as an opportunity 141 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: to break America, to break Western civilization. This was going 142 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: on in many different countries in the nineteen sixties. Now 143 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: I already laid out the government of Rhodesia at the time. 144 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: How do you think their government, how do you think 145 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: that's landing with the global civil rights do gooders on 146 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: the planet. Let me spoil it for you. It ain't 147 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: landing well and Britain decides they want to do something 148 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: about it. 149 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 4: Uh. 150 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: Oh, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent 151 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: magnificent Thursday. Do not forget tomorrow's ask doctor Jesse Friday. 152 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: You need to email your questions. They don't have to 153 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: be political, doesn't matter what it is, history, food, whatever. 154 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: Email them into Jesse at jessekellyshow dot com. It is 155 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties. The civil rights movement across the globe 156 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: has been invaded and infected by communists doing the best 157 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: they can to divide Western society. And of course Britain 158 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: has their Communists as well have our Democrats. They have 159 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: their Labor Party, the Labor government in Britain. They don't 160 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: like the look of Rhodesia right now. Yeah, of course 161 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: it's wealthy, it's prosperous, it's clean, it's wonderful. But not 162 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: everyone gets to vote. In fact, not very many Black 163 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: Africans get to vote. Lots of white Europeans get to vote, 164 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: and so they start pushing. Remember at this point, Rhodesia 165 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: is a British colony. I cannot stress that enough. A 166 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: British colony, meaning they are under the British crown. Britain says, uh, 167 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: how about one man, one vote, everyone gets to vote. Well, 168 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: the government, the people of Rhodesia, they understandably said, excuse me, 169 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: look around at Africa. Do you have any idea what's 170 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: going to happen if we allow everybody to have a 171 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: vote with no property requirements and know nothing of it. 172 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: Do you understand what will happen here? The whole place 173 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: will be over all this prosperity. The communists didn't want 174 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: to hear it. One man, one vote, one man, one vote, 175 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: over and over and over and over again. Now Rhodesha 176 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: has to make a choice. And keep in mind that 177 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm really skipping over some boring political negotiations. But Rhodesia's 178 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: government they were trying as hard as they could to 179 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: do whatever they had to do to work with Britain, 180 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: so they didn't have to do well what they're about 181 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: to do, meaning in nineteen sixty one they even changed 182 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 2: how they do the voting. They didn't change it completely, 183 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: but they opened it up a little bit more, kind 184 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: of introduced tiers to it. You could be in the 185 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: A tier. The beat again their work. They're trying to 186 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: massage the situation without giving up their country. Britain did 187 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: not want to hear it. Communists in Britain did not 188 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: want to hear it, and they said, no, you will 189 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: do this, and so Rhodesia they rebelled. There's no other 190 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: way to put it. In nineteen sixty five, rhodesha said, yeah, 191 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: we're not a British colony anymore. Now we're ours, We're Rhodesia, 192 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: we're independent and this is how we're going to run things. 193 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 4: Now. 194 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: Now pause for a second. You have probably heard of 195 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: the SAS before, the Special Air Service. If you have not, 196 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: you should know that that is the British version of 197 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: the Navy Seals, and in fact they came about really 198 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: because of the British fighting in Northern Africa. They were 199 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: the guys parachuting behind enemy lines doing all kinds of 200 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: you know, special operations stuff. They are to this day, 201 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: bad to the bone, bad dudes. The British SAS well. 202 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: Up to this point, remember we're in the sixties Jijia's military. 203 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: They would work hand in hand with Britain's military because 204 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 2: again it's a British colony, and Rhodesia had an SAS 205 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: as well that trained with the British sas. Super super 206 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: bad dudes. You get what I'm saying. Rhodesia declares independence 207 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty five. Britain is so angry about this, 208 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: they actually consider a military response to the open rebellion 209 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: of the Rhodesian country of the Rhodesian government, and they 210 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: approached the British sas and start talking to them about it. 211 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: The British SAS had such a level of respect for 212 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: the Rhodesians they had trained with and worked with, the 213 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: British government essentially faced a mutiny from within their own 214 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: high level sas. The guys weren't going to go No, 215 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm not You want me to attack Rhodesia. Nah, 216 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: Now you got to do something. If you're the British government, right, 217 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: you can't let open rebellion go, especially these white racists 218 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: in Rhodesia. And again, I want to remind you of 219 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: something I reminded you of last night. Over half of 220 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: the Rhodesian army was black Africans. This is not a 221 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: white versus black thing. How it was sold to the planet. 222 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: Black Africans died with their European brothers in this war. 223 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: Europeans would give their lives to save Black Africans in 224 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: this war. This wasn't some Nazi that's not at all. 225 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: How it was. Yes, there were fewer black voters, no 226 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: question about it. It was not a white versus black thing. Anyway, 227 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: Britain has to do something. So they essentially get the world, 228 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: that really most of the civilized world, to sanction Rhodesia. 229 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: This is a country that is landlocked. Keep in mind 230 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: they have no access to water, anything like that. Britain 231 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: slaps sanctions strict ones on Rhodesia. Now, this would normally 232 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: be about the end of any landlocked country, but Rhodesia, 233 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: to their credit, they had a couple friends and those 234 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: friends happen to be neighbors. We'll talk about those friends 235 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: some combat things in a moment. It is the Jesse 236 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: Kelly Show on a fantastic, fantastic Thursday. Remember to send 237 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: in your ask doctor Jesse questions for tomorrow. Remember you 238 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: can download the show iheard Spotify iTunes. Let's get back 239 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: to the story. Here nineteen sixty five, Rhodesha declares it's independence. 240 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: Britain is upset, to put it mildly, they get the 241 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: rest of the world and they themselves slap crippling sanctions 242 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: on Rhodesia, or I should say what should be crippling 243 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: sanctions on Rhodesia. But Rhodesia has a couple of friends. 244 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 2: Now we need to do something that I did with 245 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: you the first night, but we're probably going to do 246 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: this a couple more times because you have to visualize this. 247 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: You don't have to look at a map. You can, 248 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: but I want you to draw a circle in your mind, 249 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: or maybe you can draw one if you're a visual person. 250 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: I want you to make this a clock. Okay, so 251 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: it's a clock. Now from twelve o'clock to six o'clock. 252 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: That's obviously half the clock. There is a country known 253 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: as Mozambique, all right, Mozambique. From twelve o'clock over to 254 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: let's call it ten o'clock. There is a country known 255 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: as Zambia. All right. From six o'clock to about eight 256 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: o'clock there is South Africa. Why am I doing this 257 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: slame clock thing? Because it matters so much for our 258 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 2: story South Africa. We will begin there. South Africa and 259 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: Rhodesia are as tight as tight can get. There are 260 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: so many South Africans in Rhodesia. They love each other, 261 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: they work together, they have similar forms of They our best, best, 262 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: best freaking friends. As far as countries go, South Africa 263 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: is a friend. When these sanctions get slapped on Rhodesia, 264 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: South Africa steps up and says, hey, we got you, 265 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: sell us your stuff. We'll continue to trade with each other. 266 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: South Africa also has and this will definitely matter for 267 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: our story. Throughout our story. They have that wonderful, wonderful 268 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: liquid gold known as oil. Keep Rhodesia's well supplied with oil. 269 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: They have a friend. Now, let's go to Mozambique. Remember 270 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: the twelve o'clock to six o'clock, big, big border with Rhodesia. 271 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: They're also friendly because Mozambique at this point, and this 272 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: will change. Spoiler alert, this is going to change. Mozambique 273 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: is run by the Portuguese. All right, the Portuguese Rhodesia. 274 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: They get along. They are still working with each other, trading. 275 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: Zambia the country in the northwest. Forget about them. We 276 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: are going to get to them. They're going to be 277 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: featured here shortly. But Rhodesha has friends. What's the result 278 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: of this, They declare independence. All these sanctions they're supposed 279 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 2: to be bankrupted, Rhodesia's flourishing, flourishing. They went independent and 280 00:19:53,760 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: they're getting along really, really well. Now we have to 281 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: go globally again, because this will matter for the rest 282 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: of our story. Communists, it's a religion of destruction and domination. 283 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 2: As we've talked about so many times before, communism was 284 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: never supposed to be about any one country. Communism was 285 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: always designed, always pushed as being a global thing. At 286 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 2: this point in history, the Soviet Union is chernin and burning, 287 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: China chernin and burning. These are communist countries and they 288 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: are very very interested in spreading their communism globally. And 289 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: they are then, just as they are now, very very 290 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: interested in the continent of Africa. Africa is gigantic, it 291 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 2: is strategically located. They have all kinds of resources that 292 00:20:54,840 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: every country wants. The communist nations on the planet want Africa, 293 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: and they want all of it. And they recognize there's 294 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: an opportunity here. We have this country called Rhodesia. Britain 295 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: has cut them off. And there's a crack, isn't there. 296 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: We're ready to discuss that crack. There are all kinds 297 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: of little villages and African reservations, essentially in Rhodesia, some 298 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: black Africans who have not had a standard of living 299 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: equal to the white Europeans. There's enough of a crack 300 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: there that can be exploited. And now terrorism starts. Terrorism 301 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: mainly from Zambia. Zambia. Remember it's that twelve o'clock to 302 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: ten o'clock the northwestern border, that's Zambia. The Soviets and 303 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: the Chinese both form groups African communists, African nationalists, whatever 304 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: word you want to put on it, African groups. And 305 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: they decide they're going to have a go at conquering Rhodesia. 306 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: And they weren't even that subtle about it. The Soviets 307 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: freaking gave them tanks. They would send advisors, Chinese advisors, 308 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: Soviet advisors. How involved are the Soviets in Chinese and 309 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: this will matter for the rest of our story. They 310 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: would take African leaders and they would ship them to 311 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: places like the Soviet Union, like China, like East Germany, 312 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: and they would ship them there for training. And I 313 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: mean in depth training, not just weapons training, not just 314 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: battle tactics. I'm talking about insurgency tactics, communist tactics. How 315 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: do you infect a place? How do you infiltrate a place? 316 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: How do you destroy a place? Training camps for the 317 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 2: Africans put on by the Soviets and the Chinese, and 318 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: the poor Rhodesians don't even understand what is about to 319 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: come their way, but they do. The night a white 320 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: farmer nineteen sixty six, a white farmer and his wife, 321 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: they are ambushed and slaughtered on their farm. I need 322 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: to set up something here. I already mentioned. Rhodesia is 323 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: a huge country. I mentioned that last night, not so 324 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: much to night. This is a very very big place. 325 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: It's not a small country. And they of course have 326 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: these cities, these urban areas, but as I've said, farming, agriculture. 327 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: It's such a wonderful land for that. It's just made 328 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: for that. It was a huge part of their economy, 329 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: huge part of what they did. And there were these 330 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: huge farms that the Europeans ran and owned, and they 331 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: had of course Africans working on their Black Africans working 332 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: with them things like that. But these farms, as you 333 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: can imagine, you can't put a farm in the middle 334 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: of the city. They are rural, rural farm. They're out there, 335 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: they're in the hinterlands. They're not right next to the 336 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: cop shop. This creates a security nightmare for Rhodesian farmers. 337 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: There will come a day we're not there yet in 338 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: our story where farmers will have twelve foot high security 339 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: fences all around their homes because they were worried their 340 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: kids couldn't go to the yard without a bunch of 341 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: gorillas chopping them up with machetes. That's how dangerous this 342 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: situation is. But they don't know this yet, right because 343 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: the terror hasn't started. Well, the terror just began nineteen 344 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 2: sixty six, white farmer and his wife butchered, butchered, and 345 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: the Communists in Africa, in the Soviet Union in China, 346 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 2: they want the terror to increase, and they found I 347 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: was about to say an unlikely ally, but anyone even 348 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: vaguely familiar with our political situation in the United States 349 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 2: of America will understand it's the most likely ally in 350 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: the world, wouldn't you know it. Young college girls started 351 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: to help the international communists smuggle in weapons they could 352 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: use to commit acts of terror. As I have said 353 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: many times, there is no more vicious, violent communist on 354 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: the planet than the liberal white woman. It's just a fact. 355 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 2: So we will continue with all this in a moment. 356 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Thursday. 357 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: Getting ready to move into Ask doctor Jesse Friday. Get 358 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: your questions emailed into Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 359 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: Back to our story of the Rhodesian Bush War, terrorist 360 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: attacks have begun. Russia has their own group of African 361 00:25:54,280 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: nationalists communists. China has their group of African nationalists communists. 362 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: They are receiving training now again. I that's not that 363 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm apologizing, but I'm just gonna drop more details on 364 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: you because the details are actually necessary. Most of the time, 365 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: details kill a story. But you have to understand this, 366 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: two different groups of African nationalists communists. 367 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: Okay, there is Zapu. I'm not gonna go into what 368 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 2: it stands for. That's a detail, doesn't matter. Zapoo backed 369 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 2: by the Soviets. Then there's Zanu backed by the Chinese. 370 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: Don't worry about making sure you know who's back by 371 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: who Zapu backed by the Soviets, Zanu backed by the Chinese. 372 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: These organizations, as I said, are being trained by the 373 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: Soviets in the Chinese in infiltration tactics. Rhodesia is not 374 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: fully aware of it yet, but war has already been 375 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: declared on them by the Soviets in the Chinese who 376 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: want to make Rhodesia a communist country, and they start 377 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: by sending rebels over the border. In fact, let me 378 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 2: give you a summary of how this war is going 379 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: to go. Not to spoil the ending, but you probably 380 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: get it by now. Let me give you a summary 381 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: of how this war is going to go. There aren't 382 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: that many white Europeans in Rhodesia, right, two hundred thousand, 383 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: give or take two hundred thousand of them. It's not 384 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 2: that big of a military. Twenty thousand again, give or take. 385 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 2: It's going to depend on the time period twenty thousand. 386 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: In the military, the Communists are going to start setting 387 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: up shop in the countries around Rhodesia, and they're going 388 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: to start making incursions into the country. The military is 389 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: going to fly out and kill this incursion and kill 390 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: that incursion. They find ten guys here and twenty guys 391 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: there and they find this, and they find that. But 392 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: over time, as the world retreats on poor Rhodesia, the 393 00:27:53,680 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: incursions increase in volume, increase in frequency. You understand, this 394 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: is the very beginning of it. We're in like nineteen 395 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: sixty six here. What's happening now is the Rhodesian military, 396 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: which is elite, absolutely elite. There are a few different 397 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 2: elements to the military. I want to mention right now. 398 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: They have an air force. Remember when I said South 399 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: Africa and Rhodesia are super tight. About half of the 400 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: Rhodesian air force is actually South African, South African pilots, 401 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: South African planes. That's how tight they are. That will 402 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: matter later on. So there's an air force. They have 403 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: the Rhodesian Light Infantry. Again, I want to stress over 404 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: half of the Rhodesian Light Infantry were Black Africans. This 405 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: is not a white versus black war. The Rhodesian Light 406 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: Infantry amazing troops, amazing troops again, outdoor people, rugged people, 407 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: mandatory military service. They were amazing troops. And then there 408 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: were actually two different kind of special operations forces special 409 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: Green Berets, baby seals. Okay, there were the Rhodesian sas 410 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: I already mentioned them earlier. Bad dudes. And then there 411 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: is another group super super cool called the Sellus Scouts 412 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: or Seleuse Scouts. I've heard it pronounced a thousand different 413 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: ways as I was doing my research for the show. 414 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: These are all excellent units, top tier units. They are 415 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: having no problem hunting down and wiping out these rebels 416 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: right now because there simply aren't enough of them. You 417 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: should know, the first group of rebels who came across 418 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: the border was not a big group, got hunted down 419 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: and annihilated almost immediately. They get located, hunted down, annihilated. 420 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: The air force is used, helicopters are used to they 421 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: have to stay mobile because there aren't enough of them 422 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: to just be stationed all over the country. They have 423 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: to put them in various spots and then be ready 424 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: to hop on a plane, hop on a helicopter, and 425 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: get where you're going. The use of Paris and helicopters 426 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: is something that will last throughout this war. All right, 427 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: group comes in, gets wiped out, group comes in, gets 428 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: wiped out. The Communists, though they're starting to get smarter 429 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: as they fail what they had initially tried to do 430 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: was as I mentioned, terrorist tactics. Hey, let's butcher a 431 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: farmer in the family. Let's throw a let's throw a 432 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: bomb in an ice cream shop. Let's just basic what 433 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: you would kind of recognize today as more Jihati terror tactics. 434 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: But the Rhodesian military, the Rhodesian Intelligence service was so good. 435 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: These tactics weren't working that great. They wanted the commis 436 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: needed more power, and so they started to do something. 437 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: They started to set up secret camps inside of the country, 438 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: inside Rhodesia. Remember, it's a huge place, so you don't 439 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: just send in ten idiots from Zambia. You try to 440 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: set up camps inside. Now, we were about to get 441 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: to a point where it's going to get very difficult 442 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: on the Rhodesians. But they're definitely winning right now. And 443 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: a huge part of why they're winning is these Kami 444 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: terrorists are coming from Zambia, virtually all of them from Zambia, 445 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: because Zambia is the one that's not a friend. Well, 446 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: the border between Zambia and Rhodesia is a big river. 447 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: Rivers help provide security because they're hard to cross. They're 448 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: hard to cross unknown, that's for sure. The Rhodesians understand. 449 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: If they simply keep this river monitored, keep your patrols 450 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: up there, you should be able to locate and snuff 451 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: out all the Kami terrorists, either as they're coming or 452 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 2: shortly after they come. You hunt them down, you snuff 453 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: them out. And I mentioned earlier the sell Us Scouts 454 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: Seleuse Scouts. I'm just gonna call the Sellus Scouts. I 455 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: went to community college. They did so much cool stuff. 456 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: One of the things they were so good at the 457 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: SAS two. But it was tracking. It's wild when you 458 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: read the books how these guys would track. They'd be 459 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: out there in the bush and they'd come across sign 460 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: that terrorist groups had come, and they would just start 461 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: hunting them like they were animals, for a day, two days, 462 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: three days, following the tracks like like bloodhounds, and then 463 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: they'd finally find them. You make a phone call, you 464 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: bring in the troops. You kill them all. You find them, 465 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: make a phone call, bring in the troops, kill them all. 466 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: And I know we're about to be done with our story. 467 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to get back to politics. Sometimes wounded terrorists 468 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: trying to get back to Zambia would be eaten by 469 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: crocodiles in the rivers. One guy I read a story 470 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: about he was wounded, got hunted down by a lion 471 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: the wild, wild. What's happening? But tomorrow something will happen 472 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: that will spell eventually disaster for the Rhodesians. That's gonna 473 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: have to wait till tomorrow or wait Monday, Chris, Monday, 474 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: not Tuesday. No, we're not making them wait till tuesday. 475 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: That's not right. No, No, tomorrow or Monday. We'll do 476 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: it Monday, all right. Our story continues on Monday. Back 477 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: to politics next