1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: More Mark Mark Simone on seven tenor Hey, we're looking 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: over Steve Forbes. We don't have any How do I sound? 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Do I sound nasal? A little yeah, a little bit. 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: It started two days ago. My nose you started running. 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: I think it's allergies, and yesterday got worse. And then 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm listening to Curtis, who sounds great in the morning, 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: but lately he's been talking like that. I mean, he's 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: really stuffed up. And I saw him, Yes, I said, 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: do you have an allergy? Started calling us? This is 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: a cold? So maybe that's what I have. You hear 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: that that is really stuffed up. I think that's more 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: than the allergies. Although they say it's the worst couple 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: of days of allergies in this week, the worst few 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: days ever. What happened to Steve Forbes? We didn't find him. No, 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: something about economists. Something about economists named Steve. They're hard 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: to find. No, Steve Forbes is the most reliable guest 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: in the world. Hey, he always tells us about AI 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: and not to be so afraid of it. But there's 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: consequences to AI. Remember when the computers took over everything? 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Go back to twenty nineteen ninety nine two thousand, all 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: of a sudden, everything just went computerized, everything went high 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: tech and put a lot of people out of work 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: when suddenly computers were doing everything. And remember back then 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: they would say to everybody, well, you know you got 26 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: to learn new skills. You should learn coding once you 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: can code, since the computers are taken over. If you 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: can code software ball, you'll be working for life. It 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: was a great idea. A lot of people became software coders. 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Well there's no more software coding. It's all been taken 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: over by AI. Apparently that's one thing AI is very 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: good at writing. When you figure out what you want 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: to do software wise, instead of having to write the code, 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: you just let AI do it. And apparently if a 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: couple of guys wanted to do the coding to create 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: the software, it could take days. If you put it 37 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: into AI, it takes about a second and a half. 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: So the whole coding industry is pretty much dead. You 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: don't really need to even think about anybody going into 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: that profession anymore. So it's a new update for your iPhone. 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: It's a kinky proug all these it's twenty six to 42 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: point four operating system. But if you update to this. 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: There's one good thing I like on there. When you're 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: charging your phone, if you're not getting a really good charge, 45 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: if it's a slow charge, a warning light will go off. 46 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: Tone you get a slow charge. You know, if you 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: buy those chargers from Apple or Balkan or there's some 48 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: really good companies that make chargers, and you know they 49 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: cost a little more. And sometimes you go on Amazon 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: say look at this, Well here's a charger. It's only 51 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: five bucks and you get an off brand charger for 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: your or the not a real high quality cable. Well 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: the problem is it doesn't give you a very fast charge. 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: It could take forever. So now there'll be a warning 55 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: on those charges. So you know, if you have to write, 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: oh we got them. The great Steve Forbes, chairman of 57 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: Forbes Media, Hey, get his latest book, Inflation. There's no 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: better book on the subject. The book's Inflation by Steve Forbes. 59 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: And of course read Forbes. It's the best at covering 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: all this stuff. Steve Forbes, How you doing doing fine? Thanks? 61 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: The sun is somewhat out and baseball is underway. The 62 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: Yankees won their opener, and great basketball. Everyone's rooting around 63 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: here for Saint John's. If they can upset the Great 64 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: Duke So and the rest of the world, well, not 65 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: much we can do about it. But hey, with baseball 66 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: what we can baseball? 67 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: What do you think of that whatever they call it 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: ab where it can actually check to see if it 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: was a striker or not. It can digitally look and 70 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: see if was a strike. Doesn't that take the human 71 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: element out of baseball? 72 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: It does? But inevitably, with the technology, you knew one 73 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: way the other that was coming. They've tried it out 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: in the minor leagues, and the shortstop for the Yankees 75 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: made histories, you know, on opening a day in San 76 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: Francisco by being the first player to challenge a call. 77 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: The computer found that the batter was wrong, so the 78 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: team lost its challenge. But and the speed, the key 79 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: thing is the speed. So you knew that was going 80 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: to come, and we just have to make the best 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: of it. But it's always fun though in the past 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: to be able to say, yeah, we lost the game 83 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: because lousy umping, But now it's just he didn't play 84 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: very well. 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: We like the fat, dumpy, grumpy umpire and who's who's 86 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: the manager gonna yell at? Now? With that thing. 87 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: There's nobody to Billy Billy Martin wherever he is right now. 88 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: The Yankee manager, you can manager. I think it was 89 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: fired ten times the George Steinbrener era and was notorious 90 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: for kicking dirt. I think he could have constructed a 91 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: building in New York's amount of dirty care out on 92 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: the field. And he must be rolling his eyes. Now 93 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: what would he do? Who could he yell at? 94 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: Hey? Steve Forbes, if the President called you today and 95 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: said how am I doing? What would you tell him? 96 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: I would tell him that one, we've demonstrated extraordinary military 97 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: capabilities in this war with the Iran, and that he 98 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: should he should, and the Israelis have done the same, 99 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: and he should continue to do what they need to 100 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: do to incapacitate the local militias to keep this government 101 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: in power. And one of the things I wish the 102 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: President would do is make a nationwide address behind the 103 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: desk in the Oval Office and not behind a platform, 104 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: and explain what's at stake, why we're doing what it's 105 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: we have to do. And it may take three days, 106 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: three weeks, three months, but it has to be done. 107 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: And you know, the American people when you explain something 108 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: like that is basically national security. The Mullas were intent 109 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: on being bad actors, dangerous actors, destructive actors. After all, 110 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: they've killed two thousand of our people. But the American 111 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: people will cut them slack. They will put up with 112 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: the inconveniences as long as they have a context. But 113 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: unfortunately the impression has been given from the get go 114 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: this will be sort of a venezuela two point zero. Yeah, 115 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: it may take a few days longer, but it'll be 116 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: lickety split. And it isn't. And so the American people 117 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: back you if you explain it to them. Just one 118 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: thing on that I'm allo to remember. During the Vietnam War, 119 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: President Richard Nixon takes oval office. The war is growing 120 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: in unpopularity as policy of vietnamizations, they call it growing 121 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: and popularity. And he did a nationwide address and bought 122 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: time politically to carry out his strategy. Explain it to 123 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: the American people. Trust the American people, and most of 124 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: them will give you the time to do if you 125 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: explain why the job has to be done. 126 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: But at that cabinet meeting he explained it for a 127 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: good half hour. Then he went on the five yesterday 128 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: and for almost an hour explained himself. But I know 129 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: what you mean. It's not the same as a formal address. 130 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: But you know, if he. 131 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: Didn't know and doing then you know, if you do 132 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: the formal address and have that context, sober context, then 133 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: these updates that he gives, you know, when he goes 134 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: into a rope line or whatever or on the five, 135 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: then then it's seen as part of the mosaic. But 136 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: people have an understanding in which they can put what 137 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: he says in context. And so he's got to do 138 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: himself in the American people a favor by laying it out. 139 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: The American people then put up with stuff if they 140 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: know there's a purpose and you've explained why it has 141 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: to be done. 142 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so hey, Steve Forbes, Moody's has didn't exactly downgrade 143 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: New York, but they lowered expectations on New York. What 144 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: does this do any actual damage to us? 145 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: I think it's just underscores the bad trajectory. New York 146 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: City has been on for a while, New York State 147 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: has been on for a while, and it just gives 148 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 2: proof that change has to come. And I think Governor 149 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: Hockel sort of semi recognizes that you can't keep running 150 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: the state into the ground. But you have a radical 151 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: city council, you have a radical mayor, neo communists, You've 152 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: got a legislature that's out of control, and the Democrat 153 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: parties run by the far left. And so you know, 154 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 2: Moody's is not a Moody's is like our umpire and 155 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: and and and they're calling strikes and where New York 156 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: and city and state are striking out. So it's good 157 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: because I think it helps change politically the environment where 158 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: somebody like Bruce Blakeman, who is a Republican candidate for governor, 159 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: may make a change. And one of the things skeptic 160 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: should keep in mind is that even though New York 161 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: is a city, especially but the state's blue. We've seen 162 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: in states like Vermont or New Hampshire they will elect 163 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: a Republican if it's just about local issues, not national issues, 164 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: but local issues. And that's why I think Bruce Blakeman 165 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: has a real chance to do it, because people know 166 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: the state's in trouble. So this isn't about tax policy 167 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 2: in Washington. This is about New York State, and so 168 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: I think he can win on that. 169 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, very well. Said, well, Steve Forbes, great talking to you. 170 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Everybody gets Steve Forbes's latest book, Inflation, very important book 171 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: and you'll learn a lot reading it. Just go to 172 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: Amazon and get the book, and of course read Forbes. 173 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: That's great coverage Forbes Media, Steve Forbes, and we'll see 174 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: all over television. Thanks for being with us. 175 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. And I'm so glad to 176 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: hear those words play ball. 177 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah me too. Thanks, thanks for being with us. Take care, 178 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: take care, thank you. Thanks, and I don't forget coming 179 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: up at noon, Buck Sexton and Clay Travis. They got 180 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: a great show for you every day at noon. Then 181 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: you got the most listened to radio show in America, 182 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity. He's on at three, six o'clock. It's always 183 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly every night. And then you know, at nine 184 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: o'clock Jimmy Fayala. But that's a very funny, great show. 185 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: It's every night at nine here on seven to ten. 186 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: WR