1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 3: Here we go, hour number two, Sincy three sixty a 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: Tuesday afternoon one o'clock, which means you already know what 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: time it is. Our guy from Fox nineteen, the Great 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: joe Daniman, standing by to join us right now. 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 4: Joey D. What's up? 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: So you guys were discussing the great Marshawn Lynch in 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: his quote? Is there any better quote in sports history 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: than I know? I'm gonna get God's gonna get mine 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: more than I get God? 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 4: Go? 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: It makes I mean you talked about mantra to live by, 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: I say, not just sports. I mean it's amazing. 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get mine. So true. I'm gonna get mine. 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: They're gonna get me. Sometimes I'm in I'm. 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: Gonna get mine. Hey, we currently speaking is now official 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: New Cincinnati Red. Welcome back to au Henniorez, who just 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: jumped on the call with THEATI Cincinnati media about three 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: minutes ago, and we're getting our first quotes from au Hennio. 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: He just said, guys, quote it's perfect. That's why I'm 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: here happy and very excited to be back home. A 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: Heniourez calling Cincinnati home. He's back. 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: You you mentioned yesterday when this happened. It's a needle mover. Obviously, 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: the guy hit forty nine home runs, he's been in 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: Cincinnati before. What else goes into the idea of a 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: guy that can move the needle for this organization? Why 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: is that? 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's cheval layer and I think the 30 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: first layer is it addresses the biggest weakness this team had. 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: And this is a team who made the playoffs last year, 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: and it kind of feels like the Reds are in 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 2: a moment with the Elie de la Cruz window here 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati and to try to take advantage of it 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: the best way they can, you got to improve because 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: as much as that team should be celebrated for making 37 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: the playoffs and getting a chance to compete against the 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: eventual world champions, there's still levels up they can go. 39 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: And they did that, and the biggest shame would be 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: that if they just decided to run it back with 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: a better middle, better middle relief corps as their biggest 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: selling point to a fan base that's excited about this group. 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: But now you add this on top of it, and 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it feels like it raises the 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: floor and it raises the ceiling for what the twenty 46 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 2: twenty six Red can be. You know, Nick Crawl just said, listen, 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: you know everybody was talking about we needed to add 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: home run power. He said, we needed to add power. 49 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: We needed to add run producing. He said, whether it's 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: home runs or doubles, we needed someone who's going to 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: drive in runs, and they singled out Auhelio Suarez and 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: Nick was just talking about the process they went through. 53 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: Is that about ten days ago they went to Bob 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: and Phil Castelady and said, listen, this is our budget. 55 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: If we want to get Aohanio Sworez, we're going to 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: have to go over that budget. Will you sign off 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: on this? And Bob and Phil said yes. And Nick 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: believes that it's not just the production, but it's also 59 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: his familiarity with Cincinnati and with the ownership. They know 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: what they're getting in the clubhouse guy. They know what 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: they're getting in a fans favorite, but they also know 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: what they're getting in production. And when you put all 63 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: those three things together, I think that was the selling 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: point for Bob and Phil to say, yes, go ahead, 65 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: we'll go above budget to make this team better and 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: bring back someone Cincinnati really wants. 67 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: The numbers and the forty nine home runs obviously jump 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: out at you. But something I've wondered about this team 69 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: and have for years past. If you look at where 70 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: the roster is and there's a lot of young talent 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: on this roster, and Elie de la Cruz and Spencer 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: Steer and hoping Noelve Marte gets back to who he 73 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: is and you look at a guy like t J. Friedel. 74 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: But one of the questions I had last year as 75 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: the season went on was about the clubhouse, the leaders 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: in the clubhouse, or navigating different moments during the season. 77 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: Tough stretches, good stretches, all the above, outside of what 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: he does for the offense, outside of what he can provide, 79 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: how big of a move is this for the clubhouse 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: and for leadership of this team under Terry Francona as well. 81 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: I mean, you think about what he brings as far 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: as you know. The good vibes only trademarked with au 83 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: Henio Sporz, which is awesome, which is great. Fans love it, 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: clubhouses love it. See he's the same guy every single day, 85 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: Big Smile, has a great time playing the game. But 86 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: then you think about the adversity that some of the 87 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: Reds younger Spanish speaking players have gone through. Last year 88 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: was probably one of the more difficult, if not the 89 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: most difficult year as a professional baseball player for Elie 90 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: Dyla Cruz, dealing with a family tragedy, dealing with injury, 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: Noel Vie Marte was coming back from suspension. How does 92 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 2: he fit in? And now you add a guy like 93 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: a Henio who's a Spanish speaking, good clubhouse kind of 94 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: guy that maybe these guys can connect with a little bit. 95 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: I don't think that can be measured. I don't think 96 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: we know exactly how that will work or if that 97 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: will work. But from what I've seen with Aohenio, he's 98 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: a magnet that guys gravitate towards him. And that's English 99 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: speaking players, but also Spanish speaking players. And you wonder 100 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: with a guy like Elie and a guy like noelbe 101 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: and several Spanish speaking players in the Reds, now you 102 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: have a guy who's done it for a long time, 103 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: done it at a high level, done it here in Cincinnati, 104 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: and done it outside of Cincinnati. And you add that 105 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: that to me is a bonus that that to me 106 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: helps And so it's not just the almost fifty home 107 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: runs and the run producing and bringing back a fan favorite, 108 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: but when you drop a guy like that in there 109 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: for a team with so many young Latino stars, that 110 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: can only help this team and help those guys who 111 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: face real and for the first time the last couple 112 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: of years. 113 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: What now is the effect on the rest of the lineup. 114 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: You obviously plug Suarez into the DH role. He can 115 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: also play the corner infield spots, although I don't know 116 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: how much that'll happen. What do you see as the 117 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: trickle down effect to Spencer Steer, to Sal Stewart, to 118 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: Key Brian Hayes, How do you expect that to work out? 119 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: So Nick Krawl just addressed that when he was talking 120 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: about Aoheiyo's return, and he said they want to go 121 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: to spring training and get those guys reps at different spots, 122 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: and he singled out first Key Brian Hayes. He said, listen, 123 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: he's a gold Glove third baseman for a reason, so 124 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: he expects him to be mostly at third. Dal Stewart 125 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: he said, he'll work in at first third, second DH, 126 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: Spencer Steer first second, left field, right field. So those 127 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: two guys are going to be their super utility guys, 128 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: and we would expect those guys to bounce all over 129 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: the field and play different positions depending on mat shops. 130 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 2: But you want to keep the bats in the lineup. 131 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: He mentioned Aoheado first, third, d H as the place 132 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: is he'll rep at Red spring training. But I think 133 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: it's a safe bet to say that that Aoheadio for 134 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: the majority of his appearances here with the Reds, will 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: be at designated hitter. But I did find it interesting 136 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: that that south Stewart and Spencer Steer will both be 137 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: working in a little bit of second base at Red 138 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: Spring training, and that's something we'll be watching here when 139 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: it gets going in about two weeks. 140 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: I'll say, outside of that battle, now, now that you 141 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: have more depth in the rotation in the bullpen, you've 142 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: added some pieces like a JJ Bledah and Dane Myers. 143 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: Now you get the big bat. Does that shift at all? 144 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: What you're most looking forward to finding out about this 145 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: team when you hit out Arizona. 146 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: Now, they're going to have some tough decisions, right, I mean, 147 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: when it comes down to the final roster spot in 148 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: which guys you're going to keep in the outfield when 149 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: you have a bledet, when you have a Will Benson, 150 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: And these decisions now are going to be made coming 151 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: out spring training, and how do guys respond to what 152 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: is now another quality bat in this red lineup, and 153 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: the trickle down effect being it might squeeze somebody out. 154 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: So now there's a real competition in the outfield for 155 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: maybe what might be the final spot on this red 156 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: roster when they break camp and come towards opening day. Now, 157 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: inevitably something will happen at spring training. Somebody won't be 158 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: ready for opening Day, and maybe this problem takes care 159 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: of itself. But the old adage, it's a good problem 160 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: to have to have too many guys for only so 161 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: many spots. But I do think the trickle down effect 162 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: is a guy like a Will Benson now going to 163 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: spring training for what feels like for third or fourth 164 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: straight year where he has to solidify and earn his 165 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: spot on the opening day roster for this team. But 166 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: when you look at the opening day eight, if everybody's healthy, 167 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: when you put that team out there, it's versatile. It 168 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: now has some pop in the middle and it has excitement. 169 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: Was one of those things that I just didn't think 170 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: they could go into twenty twenty six without doing something. 171 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: It just felt like, again the Ocean's eleven, you need 172 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: one more, you know, you can need one more guy. 173 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: And the guy they got is a big deal for 174 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: what he has. And I don't think the Red need 175 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: Aohelio Suarez to hit forty five home runs. To hit 176 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: forty home runs, he might a great American ballpark, he 177 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: might have another forty home run season, But just to 178 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: have a guy hit thirty or thirty five home runs 179 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: and be a presence could be a It could be 180 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: a game changer for this team. It's a difference maker. 181 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: It takes them from a possible wild card and maybe 182 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: long shot to win the NL Central too. Now you 183 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: can legitimately put their roster and their lineup up against 184 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: anybody in the NL Central and say they have a 185 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: great shot of winning the NL Central and being division 186 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: champions in twenty twenty six. 187 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: So the next time we talk to you, Joe, it'll 188 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: be the day after a pitchers and catchers report to 189 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: Goodyear Arizona. So I'm gonna ask you to make a prediction, right, 190 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: now the opening day starting pitcher for the Reds is 191 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: who Hunter No doubt about. 192 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: It, yep, I don't think there is a doubt about it. 193 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: I mean you could make the argument for Andrew Abbot, 194 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: and you know, it was funny. I was looking back 195 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: at some of my old tweets last night when the 196 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 2: red played in LA and when you get to the 197 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 2: end of that two game series and you say to yourself, 198 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: the Reds were built to get to a short playoff 199 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: series because then they can unleash Hunter Green and Andrew 200 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: Abbott and Nicklodolo. And they made it through a two 201 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: game series in the playoffs, and Andrew Abbott and Nick 202 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: Lodolo didn't start a game, And it's just kind of 203 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: a wild thought to think back to that and how 204 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: that worked out. But listen, I think I think roles 205 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: are important in sports, and you can argue that Andrew 206 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: Abbott has earned Opening Day. But I think a lot 207 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: of times roles and an ego might not be the 208 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: right word. But I think you kind of have to 209 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: massage it a little bit with I think if you 210 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: gave it to Andrew Abbott, I think it would hurt 211 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: Hunter Green if you gave it to Hunter Green. I 212 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: don't think it would hurt Andrew Abbott, and I think 213 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: you need to kind of massage that a little bit. 214 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: You know, Hunter, ever since day one he signed in Cincinnati, 215 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: he's kind of understood that he was brought here to 216 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: be the ace and that he's talked over the years 217 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: about having to earn that title of being this team's ace, 218 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: and I think he's earned it. And even though Andrew 219 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: Abbott had the All Star season last year and was 220 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: outstanding and would deserve to start, and I don't think 221 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: anybody would be upset if he was the opening day starter, 222 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: but I do think Hunter would be from just spending 223 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: time around him and the way he talked about himself 224 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: in his growth here in Cincinnati. So it's not like 225 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: Hunter doesn't deserve it. On top of it too, you know, 226 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: he's obviously an outstanding pitcher. So I think all those 227 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: things rolled into one. Austin, I think it's probably a 228 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 2: slam dunk that Hunter Green would be opening date starter 229 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: based on what he's done, what he can do, and 230 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: what it means to him emotionally more than Andrew Abbott. 231 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: Do you think he's ever gotten over or ever will 232 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: get over Frankie Muntass making that opening day start. 233 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 2: I think those are the kind of things he holds 234 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 2: on to. You. 235 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would. 236 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: I think that's okay for athletes to hold on to 237 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff and the whole grudges and remember 238 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: moments like that. Do you think back to all the 239 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: the draft picks that remember all the players taking at 240 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: whatever position before them, and they can name all those players. Yeah, 241 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: it's amazing. I had forgotten about it until he reminded me, 242 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: but I can. I can assure you I'm still agi 243 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: not forget that happened, and I think that probably still 244 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: sticks with him. 245 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: On the other side of things, Joe, the Pro Bowl 246 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: games happened tonight, and Austin mentioned earlier he thought that 247 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: the Bengals have done a really good job of kind 248 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: of leaning into this and the content that they've created. 249 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: But what do you make of of what this has 250 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: transformed into being the Pro Bowl and and the idea 251 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 3: of seeing these guys with their guards down a little bit, 252 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: having fun and still seemingly excited to be there and 253 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: be a part of this tonight. 254 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Austin nailed it when he said take 255 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: it for what it's worth, and that's just a showcase 256 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: of personality and fun in the NFL. I'm glad the 257 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: full pad game is gone. I'm glad it's Super Bowl 258 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: week and in the Super Bowl location and for kids 259 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: to watch. And that's the thing is, you know, kids 260 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: watch sports now different than we did when we were kids. 261 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: They're looking for moments, they're looking for clips, They're they're 262 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: looking for as my kids would call, you know, farming, engagement, farming. 263 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: And that's what night's gonna Tonight's gonna be that, right, 264 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: It's gonna be moments, it's gonna be clips, it's gonna 265 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: be all over social media. And that's how the NFL 266 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: is going to win the night. It might not necessarily 267 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: be the TV product, although I think the TV product 268 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: if you're going in there just to have a good time, 269 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: you know, stample it for a few minutes and watch 270 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: guys mic up and show off the personality and get 271 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: in and out of there without anybody getting hurt. I 272 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: think that's a great thing. But I think the moments, 273 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: the way the Bengals are doing it right now on 274 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: social media, the way the NFL will do it tonight. 275 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: There's gonna be so many moments all over Instagram, all 276 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: over Twitter. It's gonna be a huge night for the 277 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: NFL when it comes to that showing personality, letting the 278 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: guys have fun, and I'm going to enjoy it because 279 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm not going into it taking it seriously. Obviously the 280 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: players aren't taking it seriously considering the rosters, and that's okay. 281 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: That's okay. So some guys want to do it, some 282 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: guys don't want to do it, And you're going to 283 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: find enough guys every year that want to showcase themselves 284 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: and want to have a good time and want to 285 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: be around the Super Bowl. I'm sure they take very 286 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: good care of these guys with all the amenities, all 287 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: the parties, all the events these guys get to go to. 288 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: You know, Jamar Chase keeps going back. You're at year 289 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: and he doesn't have to go. And Jamar Chase is 290 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: one of the quote unquote most fun, cool guys in 291 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: the NFL that not only Bengals fans like to watch, 292 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: but kids in other cities like to watch. They love 293 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. So for him to go out there now 294 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: several years in a row and display his personality have 295 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: a good time with it, I think that's the cool thing, 296 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: and I'll enjoy watching it tonight, and I'll watch the 297 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: clips too, because I think that's where the NFL is 298 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: going to have the biggest win tonight is on social media. 299 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: I wonder, are there are there any non negotiables for 300 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: you when it comes to the draft. I know we're 301 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: still months away from it, but we do mock draft 302 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: mondays on the show, and our last two mock draft 303 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: mondays have centered around a cornerback being taken by the 304 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: Bengals at pick number ten. For whatever reason, I'm just 305 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: out on that position, and I understand the need, but 306 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: I understand what Dax Hill and DJ Turner have been. 307 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: I know there's holes at safeties and linebacker and the 308 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: whole defensive line. I think you can make an argument 309 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: for offensive tackle and wide receiver if they were available 310 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: at number ten as well. But do you have any 311 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: non negotiables that you start with at number ten that 312 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: you're just you're out on even though we're still ways away. 313 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. My first non negotiable negotiable would be just don't 314 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: draft offense with the number ten pick, and you make 315 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: a point where if there's a great offensive tackle or 316 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: a wide receiver there that's a game changer. Sure, you 317 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: know you draft players, not positions. You don't draft for need. 318 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: I'm of the belief that they have to rebuild this 319 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: defense immediately and with an urgency that cannot be pushed 320 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: down another round. And you can pull up the recent 321 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: drafts and point to all the defensive players that haven't 322 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: been instant impact players in year one, and that's okay, 323 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: but you got to keep taking swings that They've got 324 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: to take swings and free agency and they've got to 325 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: take a lot of swings in the draft. So yeah, 326 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: I would say not offense. I certainly would love to 327 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: see this team and Duke Tobin certainly underline it is 328 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: finding a way to help the pass rush immediately. And 329 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: I know they've done that with Miles Murphy and Shamar Stewart. 330 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: I just don't feel comfortable going into twenty twenty six 331 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: with those two guys being your number one and number 332 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: two defensive ent Now. Would I love them to address 333 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: that in free agency and kind of have a better 334 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: feeling about that before the draft. Of course, I would 335 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: love for them to add a proven difference maker off 336 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: the edge that can help this team immediately. And the 337 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: good thing is, I think we'll go to the draft 338 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: understanding what de bang was needed are at that spot 339 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: if they haven't addressed it. So the only non negotiable 340 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: I would have would be to draft offense. I don't 341 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: love corner either, just because of what they bring back. Certainly, 342 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: if a player drops, it's hard to pass on to 343 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: talent if he's that much of a difference maker. But 344 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 2: when it comes to me, I'm looking at guys that 345 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: are plug and play difference makers at the number ten 346 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: pick right away. They need it, they've got to keep 347 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: taking a swing on it. And the difference makers they 348 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: need are on the defensive side of the football, not offense. 349 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: Joe, I'm going to ask you to put on your 350 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: prediction hat again. I hope you kept it on Who's 351 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: going to win the Super Bowl? 352 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: Seahawks. Here's why. No, very confident, and I could be wrong, 353 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: but I love Here's what I said yesterday was somebody 354 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: asked me about this. I said, I can see about 355 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: five paths for each of these teams a total of 356 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: winning the game, and I think four of the five 357 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: paths are Seahawks. And then there's a one path where 358 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: I think the Patriots can can thread the needle and 359 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: win this game. What I know will show up on 360 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: Sunday is I know that Seahawks will have a game changing, 361 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 2: disrupted defense that can force mistakes, that will show up 362 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 2: every single Sunday. What I know on Sunday as well 363 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 2: is at Walker will be the best running back on 364 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 2: the field, and he'll get the ball twenty times. And 365 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 2: when he gets the ball twenty times, he's bound to 366 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: make a couple of big plays. And so when I 367 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: have those two things, I feel very comfortable about the 368 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: Seahawks and their ability to win the game. Now, what 369 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: can short circuit this? What's the path for the Patriots 370 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: is if Sam sam Donald's this day, if he goes 371 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: out and makes a couple of mistakes and the Patriots 372 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: force a couple of turnovers, and all of a sudden 373 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: they put some game pressure on Sam Donald and he 374 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: starts to melt, that's the path for New England. But 375 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: I think that's the only path for New England to 376 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: win this game. I like the Seahawks. I like them 377 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: somewhat comfortably in this game because of their defense, because 378 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: of their running back. I think those are things you 379 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: can rely on. They always say defense travels. I also 380 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: think a guy like Kenneth Walker travels, and I think 381 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: those guys will be ready to win the game on Sunday. 382 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: That is Joe Daneman Fox nineteen from Reds and spring 383 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: training to the Bengals offseason. Everything guys got going on 384 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 3: with the final quarter. I saw a freshman for Lasal 385 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: knocked off Moler over the weekend. You guys are all 386 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 3: over the map. What do you have coming up? And 387 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: what's the easiest way everyone can follow along with you? 388 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: So we'll continue all throughout the rest of February. Our 389 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: final quarter on Friday Night Cincinnati is only thirty minute 390 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: high school show. Jeremy Row and I will be in 391 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: Arizona two weeks from now. We are out there Sunday 392 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: through Wednesday covering the Cincinnati Reds as they start spring training. 393 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: And before I let you go, guys. One more quote 394 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: from au Hedio. As he sat down to talk with 395 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati media, he was asked why was this the 396 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: right fit for you to come back to Cincinnati. He said, quote, 397 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: the chance to win, the chance to bring the playoffs 398 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: to the city, and the chance that we with me 399 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: of making the playoffs and winning it all is high Okay, 400 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: good fives only in Cincinnati. 401 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: Man to that, I say, yeat. 402 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: Could you imagine like a podcast with au Hanio Suarez 403 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: and Marshawn Lynch and we can have Jim Day Moderate. 404 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: Thank you, Joe, you're the best man, which we appreciate 405 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: you yet he is Joe Daniman Fox nineteen disappointed by 406 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: the way I texted you and Joe over the weekend. 407 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: I said, yeat. No, you guys didn't say a word. 408 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Back because he by when I was at the local 409 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: establishment having beer and wings. I'm thinking about my boys, 410 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: Tony and Joe, he said, yeat, and they're just like nothing. 411 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 3: No yea silence, no, yeat. Here's what I here's what 412 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 3: they about, Joe Daniman man. A bombshell of a move 413 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 3: happens with the Reds. They get Suarez, they line up 414 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: media today Nick Krawl speaks Sarez speak. And you even 415 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: mentioned to Joe like, hey, do we need to move 416 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: this around? And Joe says, no, we'll take care of it. 417 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 418 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: I mean when I answered him, I hear the like 419 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: media call in the background, Yeah you Hano Suarez talking. 420 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, are you sure? 421 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: Yep? 422 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: First class and bad and I and you know, when 423 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: you're a veteran like him, you just say, hey, Jeremy, 424 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: you can't handle this pal, Hey Gabby, you Reagan, it's 425 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: on you, ye, sister, that's just what you do. 426 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: You don't have to work. It's true. You know, people 427 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: like him, people like the shaff They just. 428 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: I think land Landon is a great example, gets his 429 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: hands dirty 430 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: And at a point where you can delegate some things 431 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: correct well said talk Box Next, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 432 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: sports station