1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Areas. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: Bett Leber at Nacho liber Sideline analyst for the vast 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: and ever expanding Minnesota Vikings KFA N Audio Network. Don't 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: forget to watch them on Twin Cities Live three to 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: four thirty, Channel five, each and every weekday. And mister 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: Benjamin joins us in studio. Now, are you guys sampling 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: all the new eats at target Field this summer? I 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: mean that seems like an absolute winner for the old 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: TCL concourse. 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we are going to do a split show out there. Actually, 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: we might do a full show out there. Not to 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: get technical on the jargon, but we are going to 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: be out there at target Field soon. I don't have 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: the exact date off the top of my head, but 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna be out there soon doing a show. So yeah, 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure we're going to have some sort of new 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: eats out there. 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Who who do you like? Today? It's time to drop 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: the pot. 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you've got Michigan State and Yukon at twelve 21 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: thirty in the Massachusetts Regional, then Dartmouth, Wisconsin, North Dakota 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: and Merrimac and Providence and Quinnipiac. 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: You know, the Frozen four. We've got the Frozen four. 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: Beginning today, we're to the sweet sixteen in the NCAA Tournament. 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: The Minnesota Timberwolves are setting for making history with an 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: overtime victory. In the NFL Draft is one month from today. 27 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: This whole thing's good enough to eat. I'm gonna pull. 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: For Quinnipiac just because it's really fun to say, you know, 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: I'll go for the small the small market team. 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah there, Mike. 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: I don't even know what their mascot is, the Quinnipiac 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: probably big fat Q, sure John Q tips. But this 33 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: is this is a wonderful, wonderful sports time of the year. 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: Wild play the back to back champs tonight too. 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: That's on k FAM Wild and Florida Panthers with a 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: Joe O'Donnell on lead vocals. Boomer the Bobcat, Boomer the 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: Bobcat for Quinnipiac Bobcats. Okayw NFL DeAndre Hopkins kind of 38 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: begged via teat played for the Minnesota Vikings, and it's 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: like Kyler's my dog. He didn't say this, but he 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: could have, Like, I know, Christian Kirk is Kyler's best 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: friend and they played together in college and the pros, 42 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: and he went to the Niners, and Kyler might be 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: a little sad, but Kyler and I are dogs too, 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: So why don't you guys bring me up to Minnesota? 45 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins on any form of a fair deal? 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: What do you think I mean to be quite the 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: lineup on a fair deal? Why not? 48 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 4: Right? 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: I mean, we lost Naylor. Good for him, great deal 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: for him. We're kind of searching for that number three 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: guy if d hop wants to take over that role 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: and he wants to truly own that role and not 53 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: try to be you know, not stepping on Ja's toes 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: and certainly not JJ's and he just kind of slides 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: in there and he's just an available third option at times, 56 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: I say why not? 57 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: And DeAndre Hopkins has some football immortality to him. Never 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: has been the fastest receiver in the history of the NFL, 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: and I would imagine if at the stage of his career, 60 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: there is some skeletal remains of DeAndre Hopkins, if you 61 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, say the Vikings find a 62 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: way to trade up to get Notre Dame running back 63 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love. I mean, he's fast, so is Justin, so 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: is Jordan Addison. Then you got old d hop. I 65 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: always love that one. I wouldn't say it's my first pick. 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: I truly think that for this offense and for what 67 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: we're looking for, I would love to see and I'm 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: not saying it's needed, but I'd like to see an 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: Edelman type of guy. You know, I want to see 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: like Wes Welker, see a Wes Welk Jason Sehorn when 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: he played wide receiver. 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: But not Eddie Royal. No, certainly not. 73 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: Odell Beckham doesn't fit. No, despite playing for for Kevin O'Connell. 74 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: Your your Vikings Quarterback analysis at KFA n dot com 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: and social media and KFA and YouTube for those who 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: may have missed it, it seems to be like a 77 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: connecting the dots type situation. So like Nacho tweets something, 78 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: can't remember what you tweeted in the Age of Rage. 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: Not surprisingly, it probably caught a little fire. So then 80 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: Nacho takes a break from his vacation yeah, and does 81 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: a video to appease the Age of Rage or clarify 82 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: things in set age. Well, then Nacho, I think, gets 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: back and then does a KFA and video to further 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: clarify what in the heck is this all? 85 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: About Well, the KFE and video was really just a 86 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: clip of the power Trip guys asking me the same 87 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: thing when I got back. So that was that was 88 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: not an intentional clip, okay, But the one I made 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: in the Bahamas was for sure an intentional clip. 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: What happened Were you on the beach when you film that? No, 91 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: I was sitting in a golf cart, sitting in our motive. 92 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: Transportation to the beach was behind you from the beach 93 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: was behind you. 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: It was the beach. 95 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: It was. It was a low key creasal flex that 96 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: he takes fifteen trips a year and they're they're always 97 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: dope as. 98 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: The kids get paid for them. I don't get paid 99 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: for the trips I go on. He got paid to 100 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: go to Disneyland. No, well, usually the trip when he's 101 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: out and about he's like doing a speaking engagement like 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: San Diego or something, or like Palm Springs, and it's 103 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: like it looks like he's on vacation, which I'm sure 104 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: he's taken advantage of it, but I also think that 105 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: he's getting paid for speaking anyway. 106 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: Good for him. 107 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: So No, this was all the news that came out 108 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: about Carson Wentz being re signed, and I basically said 109 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: something along the lines of as of right now, and 110 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: I truly mean like as of today, as I'm writing this, 111 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: that I think the depth chart should be Carson into 112 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: Kyler to McCarthy, Oh geeesh. And that obviously stirred the 113 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: hornet's nest and people got her all pissy and basically said, 114 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm talking about, and I know 115 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: that X is a terrible place to add context and have, 116 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: you know, actual discussions. So that's why I'm like, So 117 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: that's why I was like, all right, let me just 118 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: pop up my phone and it's like, give a expand 119 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: on my my thoughts here. And I first want to 120 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: clarify the fact that I do think that Kyler's going 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: to end up winning this quarterback competition. 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: Right, and just to add two said context now, like 123 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: I saw via a Ben Gesling tweet earlier this week, 124 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: Carson's deal, Wentz's deal is not of the proven variety. 125 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: I mean it could be, but it's like it's like 126 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: one in three in change that could get up to 127 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: like six and change. So I mean that's more than 128 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: just a hey, yeah, we'll give you one and one 129 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: and come on and hear and see what you can do. 130 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's also that I like that. I like 131 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: that detail to this thing. But when I was making 132 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: this video, it really was more about where are we 133 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: right now. 134 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: As a team and as a quarterback position. 135 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: I thought, based on the three weeks that Carson had 136 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: to get ready before he was injected in this offense 137 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: because of injury, I thought that over that over his 138 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: playing time, he played really well. You could see what 139 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: could the guy look like with a better offensive line, 140 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: which we're going to have this year. 141 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: We all cross our fingers. 142 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: Everybody's healthy and we're gonna be a better offensive line, 143 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: and Jackson's gonna be even better as a left guard 144 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: if he gets protection he can he can really open 145 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: up this offense and run this offense in a way 146 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: that I think that KOs wants to run this offense right, 147 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: certainly not taken away middle of the field throws that 148 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: they admitted to basically doing with McCarthy. So you're gonna 149 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: that's public, Well that's what all the reports are saying. Yeah, 150 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: I mean it must there must be something to it, right, it. 151 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: Has to be. 152 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing anybody would hear in a background chatter on 153 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: a sideliner at the combine or anything. 154 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, yes, I've been three two. Yeah. So anyway, 155 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: so we're going with this idea. 156 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: We're basically going with the idea that McCarthy could not 157 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: grasp the totality of the offense. 158 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: Right. 159 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: So, well, Kyler Murray's just got here. 160 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: And all we've heard about Kyler Murray is he's not 161 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: an under center of the under center quarterback. He was 162 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: the last couple of years of Drew Petsing. You know, 163 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: two years ago. His numbers look good, but he still 164 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: was even close to them the amount of under center plays. 165 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: That Koc has. 166 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: So he's got a lot to learn if we're going 167 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: to all be under the same system with Koc and 168 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: they're all gonna run the same plays, and it's gonna 169 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 3: be a real quarterback competition. If it's a real quarterback 170 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: competition right now, as of today, I think Carson Wentz 171 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: can run this offense better than anybody else do. I 172 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: think Kyler has the X factor with his athleticism is 173 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: his creative ability. 174 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 175 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: That's why I think that he's going to be the 176 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: opening day starter or whenever the season starts. But I 177 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: think if the Vikings really truly want to have an 178 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: open competition and not just anoint the next quarterback because 179 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: we know that did not go very well last year. 180 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: Then I think Carson has a real chance. Shoot, all 181 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: of them have a real chance to compete and figure 182 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: out who's the best guy out there. I'm not anointing 183 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray is the starting quarterback right now. I'm not 184 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: in that camp. If other people want to be in 185 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: that camp and say nope, just because he's the new 186 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 3: shiny toy and this is what he did at Arizona, 187 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, that's what he did at Air Arizona 188 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: under a Cliff Kingsbury. But he wouldn't He wasn't good 189 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: enough to get his job back from Jacoby Brissett, right, 190 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: And I know that there was some injury mixed involved there, 191 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: but like they were willing to like let him go. 192 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: If he was so great, yeah in this offense, then 193 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: why didn't they keep him around? 194 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: That That is an underlying part of this. That's like 195 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: the dirty secret or the elephant in the room when 196 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: somebody gives you thirty five million dollars to leave. Well, 197 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: there there's more that goes into that than we, like 198 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: Jacoby or we got our eye. We got our eyes 199 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: on a second round quarterback. Nobody's talking about there's just 200 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: more to it. But now on the other side of 201 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: it with Murray, and I have no idea what the 202 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: answer to this is, but to get Kyler Murray to 203 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: come here on the one and one and change, you know, 204 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 2: and waive the potential for the franchise tag. So I 205 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: think anybody would have done that. Is it required to 206 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: have a sneaky chat with Kyler Murray? Like, Hey, you know, 207 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: maybe here, maybe there, maybe over there, come here, you're 208 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: going to start, okay, And let's just don't tell your 209 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: agent because agents talk. Let's just that's the bit and 210 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: don't tell anybody. Does that happen? 211 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: I think it happens. I think it happens, and it 212 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: could have happened here. But the way I wish it 213 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: went down and hoped it went down, was that did 214 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: that that dialogue wasn't hadn't been said that you truly 215 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: tell him. 216 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, to hear that on the sideline. 217 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: It wasn't part of a background chat or I really 218 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: passing conversation with the combine. 219 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: If you're asking me, what's what's the best healthiest environment 220 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: for this franchise and for that position is to tell 221 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: all three of these guys, we're may the may the 222 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: best man win. We're going to have a true open competition. 223 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: We're going to give you as much of the fair 224 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: reps as possible with the number one offense against the 225 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: in the number one and number one offensive line, and 226 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: see who actually wins. Because all they've been talking about 227 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: is bringing competition in for JJ McCarthy because that elevates 228 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: everybody's play. 229 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: So that needs to happen. Happens at every position. Yep. 230 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: I don't know why we have to face It's like 231 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: we which we know that quarterbacks are the most important 232 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: position in the league, but yet we handle that position 233 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: with kid gloves mentally because we're like, well we can well, 234 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: I mean we can't. We can't like bring in competition 235 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: because what's what's he gonna how's he gonna feel? 236 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: Well? Are you kid me meed? They bring in competition 237 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: for every position across the board. 238 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams with the Bears had no competition, but when 239 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: Ben beloved BJ would talk about the lack of experience 240 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: or lack of wherewithal under center. I mean, there were 241 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: no kid gloves it was like, this is important, he's 242 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: never done it. When he did do it, it wasn't great. 243 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: And if it's not great, way and gone anywhere. So 244 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 2: he came straight out at it. 245 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: It's it's so fascinating that we will hammer these guys all, 246 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: you know, privately. 247 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: Publicly. 248 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: You mentioned Ben Johnson about basically calling his own his 249 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: own franchise quarterback out. 250 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: That's rare. 251 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: That's so rare because a lot of people handle the 252 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: quarterback with like, well, we can't piss this guy off, 253 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: we can't put him in the tank. You know, we 254 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: got we got to make sure his mentals are okay. Well, 255 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: you don't care about the mentals of the defensive tackle, 256 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: you don't care about the mentals of the safety or 257 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: the wide receiver. But the obviously him to care so 258 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 3: much about the quarterback position, like no, like, if the 259 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: guy's mentally tough enough to handle the spot, then he 260 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 3: deserves to be out there. 261 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean, but if he crumbles under the pressure, then 262 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: we don't want him out there. Right. 263 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: But the way you're explaining that, and I agree with you, 264 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: but what is age old is quarterbacks have been treated 265 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: like that for X amount of years, like pitchers and 266 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: like goalies, it's just kind of the same. Bit doesn't 267 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: mean it's right, but nevertheless, that's what it is. 268 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't think we're in a position to do that right. 269 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: I think if we had if we had a if 270 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: we had Josh Dobbs, I mean, it's completely different. 271 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: You know, I know there's a jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. 272 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: I know there's exceptions to every rule, So it's not 273 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: just a blanket statement. 274 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm messing with you because you're my dog. 275 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 3: But I think the situation that we're in, the situation 276 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: that we found ourselves in with the way that JJ 277 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: played last year and Carson coming in and playing well 278 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: and then hurting his shoulder and all this other stuff, 279 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: because that position is not solidified. What's the harm in 280 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 3: bringing more competition in And what's the harm in saying 281 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: this is an open competition and nobody's been anointed in 282 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: the middle of March that you're gonna be the starting quarterback. 283 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: When and depth charged by the team don't come out 284 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: till training camp, so you don't have to make a declaration. 285 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: I honestly think that you make it as cutthroat and 286 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 3: his game of thrones as possible in that room and 287 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: Jim McCarthy's out of it. 288 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: And then McCarthy shows that the John beckcamp that thing 289 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: in California. Wow, there were six things about him that 290 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: bugged us and even though we had nothing to do 291 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: with it, four or fixed. Well, then they have to 292 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: recognize that and also recognized pride goes before the fall. 293 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: So if somebody else played into somebody getting better, then 294 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: he's yours. 295 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: Just embrace it, you know, so let me let me. 296 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: I'll ask I'll ask you both. And I know that 297 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: we're kind of circling this whole thing, but I'll ask them. 298 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: This kind of turned on you guys. How would how 299 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: would you feel from a competitive standpoint if they announced 300 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: today that Kyler Murray you're starting quarterback? 301 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: Do you think that's he didn't like it? 302 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: Right? 303 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't like it. 304 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: Well, but I also but from it on the other side, 305 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: from a depth chart standpoint, when they make Kyler Murray one, okay, 306 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: if they make Kyler Murray one, when I mean if 307 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: Carson Wentz wins the job, can you imagine the tattering 308 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: and or the abuse that's going to take place with 309 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: the PlayStation controllers are two. 310 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: I always love that one with Kyler Murray and how. 311 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: Much he's just going to mash on that thing if 312 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: he's not the starter, Holy cow man, that thing's gonna 313 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: be in datter. 314 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 5: Well the question you ask. So we're balancing. I feel 315 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 5: like there's semantics. There's a bit of arbitrary. Uh, there's 316 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 5: an aspect to it because I feel like it is 317 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 5: not a real competition in the respect that JJ McCarthy. 318 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: The only way that he can win this job effectively 319 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 5: and gaining our trust and finding his way to the 320 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 5: top of the totem pole here is he has to 321 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 5: ace every single aspect of football on that practice field, 322 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 5: in the meeting rooms, in shorts, in non competitive environments. 323 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 5: And I think that sets him back. So you're telling 324 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 5: you're telling Kyler Murray he's got a real shot to start. 325 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 5: You're telling Carson Wentz, especially when you're signing him this early, 326 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 5: like Carson could chill until the summer and find his 327 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 5: way onto a team maybe if if you know, if 328 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 5: he's looking for real chances to play, and and and 329 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 5: JJ is kind of the odd man out here, So 330 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: how does he How is this a real competition in 331 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 5: regard to the idea that I need JJ to be 332 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 5: perfect in the offseason, but I'm not going to get 333 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 5: a real competitive look at him. To show those growth 334 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 5: aspects of this offseason and before the season starts. It 335 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 5: has to truly be faith based that the work you're 336 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 5: seeing on the practice field is somehow going to translate 337 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 5: and be better in competitive games. I just don't think 338 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 5: JJ is going to have that real chance this offseason. 339 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: But see, the word competition needs to be defined because 340 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: yet at the end of the equation, you know if JJ, 341 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: if McCarthy is like, well, you said it would be 342 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: a competition, they could be like, yeah, between you and 343 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: Max for the practice squad. So we did say competition. 344 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: Nobody was lying that's an easy way out. 345 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: So true and listen, I am I'm obviously not knowledgeable 346 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: enough to know how you can cut this up equally 347 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: in OTA's in mini camp to even have a penciled 348 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: in depth chart for training camp in that you have 349 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: three quarterbacks, you want them to all have equal reps 350 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: with the number one offense, and I'm cleaning everybody on 351 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: the number one offense against what you think is the 352 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: number one on defense and not you know, it's not 353 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 3: a lot very often you go against. 354 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: Number one defense. 355 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: It's usually the twos, and it's ones versus twos a 356 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: lot of time, so it is very difficult to have 357 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: a true apples to apples to apples comparison. So I 358 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: understand that, and I know that they're probably is a 359 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 3: little bit of bias, and like who, they probably went 360 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 3: out there for more reps to get people up to speed. 361 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: I think they're really going to know when they get 362 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: into the meeting rooms and they get out on the 363 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 3: practice field about the knowledge and the processing speed of 364 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: the offense. And I think that is the mental part 365 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 3: of this is going to be huge. I think the 366 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 3: physical person has that covered well, He's got he definitely 367 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: has that covered. 368 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: So say first fall off season here off what he 369 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: went through last year. In the plays change, but I 370 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: mean concepts don't change that much. 371 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: So that kind of goes back to my initial statement 372 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 3: earlier was that as of today, he's probably your best 373 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: quarterback in that room. Now, maybe not most productive, and 374 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 3: maybe not the most dynamic, and maybe not the most creative, 375 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: but if you're looking for a true quarterback to run 376 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: this offense, he's the guy on top. 377 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: If you believe speed kills, and it's a speed game 378 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: this National Football League. Right, if somehow the Minnesota Vikings 379 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: had the speed and the versatility that is Kyler Murray 380 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and they trade up 381 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: and find their way to Jeremiah Love, or they get 382 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: a running back who has lickety split speed and becus 383 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: reps with Mason and or Jones, well that factors into 384 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: it too. I mean, Carson and the scholarly, the scholar 385 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: of the game approach has to be respected and appreciated, 386 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: and he should come into this offseason favored to win 387 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: the job because he knows where the bones are buried, 388 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: doesn't hold the ball, you know, granted, doesn't move that much, 389 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: but when he does move that you know that actually 390 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: was a little bit of a problem where it was like, hey, 391 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: this movement by this big man's cool and everything, but 392 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: do we really have to take on every linebacker and 393 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: safety that way encounter? So let's fix that. So maybe 394 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 2: they can fix that. I mean, you know better than 395 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: anybody with Kyler when you just this thing, if you 396 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: catch them in man, which doesn't happen a lot against 397 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: the Vikings. They don't face a lot of man de 398 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: man defense. But if you do. And he's seventy five 399 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: percent good or better at recognizing man in his own 400 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: and he sees the backs turned, well, he's going to 401 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: run from one side of the building to the other. 402 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: And that speed, I mean, the giftedness with his running. 403 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: We all you know, you probably knew this man, but 404 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: like we all know Kyler Murray runs. 405 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: We know he can run. 406 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if he has a swivel, Like, what's the 407 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: state of the swivel? Are we one one and a 408 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: half reads and then we take off? That's all going 409 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: to that's all going to reveal itself eventually. But if 410 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: you if you get a speedy running back, a kid 411 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: running back, and there's a lot of speed with these 412 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: running backs, Jeremiah Love would be the centerpiece. 413 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: Vikings pick eighteen. 414 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: This kid may go eight who knows, but you can 415 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: trade up to be up if you want him badly enough, 416 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: you can get him because it's. 417 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: Not that far away. 418 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: So if you have some like that with Jefferson and 419 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: Addison and Murray, there's some high the women and children 420 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: to that for a defensive coordinator, know what I mean? 421 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: Slet factors into it too. 422 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: Well, that's why I kind of couched everything with the 423 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 3: idea that Kyler's gonna he's most likely going to win 424 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 3: out just because of his X factor. If you put 425 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: all three of those guys in the field and you 426 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: ask him un the same play against, let's the same 427 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: man to man defense. 428 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Carson's going to try to find. 429 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: He's going to try to find the one little edge 430 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: a back shoulder throw, you know, that little bit of separation. 431 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: He's going to look to get the ball fifty yards 432 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: down the. 433 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 3: Field in a one on one situation, and you probably 434 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: hope that McCarthy can recognize the same thing, but he 435 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: didn't do a great job of doing it last year, 436 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 3: so you know that's still a little bit of an 437 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: unknown with Kyler. It's like, well, he could probably make 438 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: that same read in the first couple of reads in 439 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: the first like boom boom. If it's not there, then 440 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: he knows that he can use his legs and that 441 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: could be a fifty yard play as well. 442 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, the return of the big offensive places has arrived. 443 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, naive enough to know that like 444 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 3: to think that in the at the end of the 445 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 3: day that Carson wentz or JJ McCarthy is going to 446 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: win out and be the starting quarterback. I'm just saying 447 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: I get it. As of today, this is probably how 448 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: it looks. And then Kyler's really got to go out 449 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: and prove that he can run this offense. And there's 450 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: got to be a little bit of a negotiation too 451 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: with the way Kaos calls things, because how much under 452 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 3: center do you want to put him? How much more 453 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 3: shotgun are we going to see? How much more flexibility 454 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: is Chaos going to give him with the offense? I 455 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: mean there is going to be have to be a 456 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: compromise between play style and play caller. 457 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: If if of what I said eight and a half 458 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: minutes ago, if per chance you in sneaky fashion made 459 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: a promise to Kyler Murray because they were competing with 460 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: teams to get Kyler Murray. It may not be like 461 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: loud and public and everything, but they were not the 462 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: only team that was like, hey, come in here and 463 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: do But if it's the Jets, everybody wasn't going to 464 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: go to New York, right, But what if it was 465 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: the Rams and and it was backup roll? I understand, 466 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: but you know, Matt missus games and to have that 467 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: so and so I see what you're saying, but if 468 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: you made that sneaky promise to him, that sign here 469 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: and you will start, you made a mistake. You made 470 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 2: a mistake if you did that with Kyler Murray, and 471 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: really if you do it with anybody. But I just 472 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: I really really hope that didn't happen. I hope everything 473 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 2: you're saying is absolutely veracity filled and accurate, and truly 474 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: it will be a competition maybe between one and two 475 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: the veterans, with the three having a puncher's chance the kid. 476 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: But no, I wouldn't. 477 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: I really hope that that some form of promise was 478 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: not made to Kyler. That's Ben Lieber at Nacho liber 479 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: Via ex It's nine ton. It is this the age 480 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 2: of the tight end and the reason I bring it 481 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: up like that, and you're an elite football mind and 482 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: you probably put me on this take, and I gravy 483 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: trained it and amplified it. But you know, with when 484 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: we were in Arizona a couple of years ago to 485 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: play the Rams, and you know they have super special 486 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: Tyler Higbee and they got this cat named Allan. They 487 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: had like two tight ends who basically didn't play that 488 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: much and played a ton against the Vikings and in 489 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: playoff games, then again the next year. Then we we 490 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: look at let's take Seattle, Let's take the champions, you know, 491 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: as an example, and what they did with Barner and 492 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: and another guy who like this other guy. Well, the 493 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: Bears are the perfect example. Beloved BJ drafts Loveland and 494 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: he's right, and Loveland's a star. He's a perennial law 495 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: pro in the making. Cole Comet does everything well and 496 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: nothing great. 497 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: So what are we gonna do. 498 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: Well, We're gonna pill for something called durham smythe from 499 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins and playing four plays a game. But 500 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: those four plays we play, he's gonna catch one for 501 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: a first down, and he's gonna block a B and 502 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 2: C for DeAndre and we're gonna get more first downs, 503 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: and then he's gonna go to the bench for the next. 504 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: Half of the quarter. 505 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: So the specialization of the tight ends is is en 506 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: vogue in the National Football League. So now day one 507 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: at the combos combine segment one at the combine, me 508 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: and Bursage, we call the sideline analyst, and we're chatting 509 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: about Kenyon Sadiq. So now from what you infatuated you 510 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: with Oregon, Sadik then to adding more to it. I mean, 511 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: he's the bell of the ball right now. You know, 512 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: I got John Harris from Footballtakeover dot Com. He was 513 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: He's been a scout and worked on college staffs. He's 514 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: just so plugged into college football. He's the Nacho Leber 515 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: for the Texans radio network. But he has a side 516 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: bit football takeover dot Com. And he compared Kenyon Sadiq 517 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: to Trey McBride. And in that interview that I had 518 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: with him forty five minutes ago, I mean he started 519 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 2: laughing with how deep this tight ends draft is for 520 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: those who catch and run and yeah, they're blockings good. 521 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: Well, Sadik does it all. 522 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: But the others and and this guy catches and runs 523 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: and his blocking is good, but can get better. Well, 524 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: this guy right here is like us check who can 525 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: line up at tight end and do this. They're all 526 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: over the place. It's the age of the specialization with 527 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: the tight ends really matters in the National Football League 528 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: these days. 529 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: When you agree, it certainly does because unfortunately the guys 530 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: like c J. 531 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Ham I've been phased out. 532 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 3: And we were surprised that actually when Koc got this 533 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: job that he kept CJ. Ham just based on the 534 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: amount of fullback usage that the Rams had. 535 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: Interesting you say that you were on vacation, you were 536 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: on spring break feeling, and Ham had their retirement. 537 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: Yep, it was. 538 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: They was spectacular. I mean, they dressed up the Vikings 539 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: Entertainment Network studio as good as I've ever seen it. 540 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: It was a beautifully touching day. 541 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: But CJ. 542 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: Ham said, my first year with Kevin, I didn't play 543 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: that much, you know, but I stayed in my life 544 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: and I did what they wanted me to do as 545 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: well as I could. 546 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: And then it grew from there to amplify what you said. 547 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I think that there we've certainly seen 548 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: the whole NFL kind of change over and to get 549 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: a little bit more spread out, more wide outs, a 550 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 3: little bit more seven on seven. I think that's starting 551 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: to pair back a little bit. I think they're starting 552 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: to see again because of these hybrid tight ends, that 553 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: there's more of them. You can you can play with 554 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 3: personnel groupings a lot more. I wouldn't be surprised if 555 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 3: we never we never replace a. 556 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: Guy like CJ. Ham with another CJ. Ham. 557 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: I think that this offense probably could use another pass 558 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: catching tight end, twelve personnel could probably be the flavor 559 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 3: of the month, and it's it's the personnel group, and 560 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: that I think gives the defense most fits because it's 561 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 3: harder to line up against because you can line up 562 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 3: the other tight end in so many different spots. 563 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: But you're twelve here with Hopkinson and Oliver is already good. 564 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what I guess. That's the point 565 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 3: I'm trying to make. Imagine if you added a Kenyon Sadiq, 566 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 3: who we know when we were talking at the Combine. 567 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: The reason I brought him up was because, well a 568 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 3: I was heard about him and watched him a little 569 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: bit during the college football season. I knew he was 570 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 3: going to be he was going to test well at 571 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: the Combine because of all the rumors about how freakishly 572 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 3: he is. And then you start to see all these 573 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: mock drafts where they see at around eighteen, a guy 574 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: like Sidiq is still available. Now that was that was 575 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: pre Combine. Now he blew up the Combine, and so 576 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: I think he's he might be picked a little bit 577 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: earlier than that, but we all know the draft can 578 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: get a little wonky. So it was just a name 579 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: to put on the radar. That wouldn't it be really fun? 580 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 3: And I know that you are you know, we were 581 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: talking about other wide receivers. You you're big on Juwan 582 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 3: Jennings and that could still happen. But what if it 583 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: was JJ Jordan, Addison, Hawkinson. 584 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: Sadik Oh wow? And you're like, is Sadiq four three 585 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: or is he like? 586 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: Dude? He yeah, he was super sub four four. If 587 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: not four three, he was a liont he might have 588 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: been four three four. 589 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: And from what I've heard and watched a little bit 590 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: on the blocking and they're like. 591 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: A tight end at four three? Are you kidding me? 592 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: The thing that sets him apart I think from some 593 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: of the other tight ends and what your guy was 594 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: seeing it's a deep, deep tight end draft where he 595 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: is separated from everybody else. 596 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: It's his attitude. 597 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 3: The dude plays with a mean spirit, he plays pissed 598 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: off and he's not afraid to block. So you get 599 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 3: a guy like that that carries a lot, a lot 600 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: of bravado and you know he's got that sort of 601 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: dog in him, and you put him in the same 602 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: athletic body and then you put him on the field 603 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 3: with Hawkinson and you line these guys up like and 604 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: then you know, then you get you know, I don't know, 605 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: maybe a second third round running back if you can 606 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: find one of these speedy guys along with Jordan Mason. 607 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you. 608 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 3: Got an offense right there that is going to be 609 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: so dynamic and so complex and you won't talk about 610 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: layering things down the field. My god, it's gonna be 611 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: hard to defend these guys. 612 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: Fall back tight end h back from Oregon and one 613 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: of the rare players to come into the NFL or 614 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: NBA these days. Who didn't like Okay, well, let's look 615 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: at this. Okay, one year at James Madison, two years 616 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: at SMU, one year at Notre Dame, and one year 617 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: at Clemson. Now he was Oregon all the time. He 618 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: ten inch hands, very good. His forty was four to 619 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: three nine. His tight end ran a four to three 620 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: But drafts avant John Harris from football takeover dot com. 621 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: Here here's what he wrote about him. He blocks his 622 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: guts out of the point of attack. He doesn't always 623 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: just play great hands, but when he reels the ball in, 624 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: he might be the fastest tight end in football on 625 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: any level. Four to three nine at the combine probably 626 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: precipitated even more discussion in draft rooms, especially for teams 627 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: that need an offensive boost out of that position. Outstanding build, 628 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: strength and speed, the full package for teams that are 629 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: looking to get more out of the interior passing game. 630 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 4: Uh. 631 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: And the player comparison is Trey McBride. That's I mean, 632 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: he's at least pro bowler. 633 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 634 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: Then the next one was his number two. There is 635 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: Denton Geyer. Let's see is it Dent Who is it? 636 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 637 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: No, Eli Stowers Stower Stowers Yeah, yeah, Bandy Texas A 638 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: and m New Mexico State than Bandy. No, he's from Denton, Texas. 639 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: But his comparison is Mike is SICKI So, I mean 640 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: we got and then Sam Ruche Raush from Stanford. His 641 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: comp is his Compstuck or Craft damn. And I bring 642 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: this up because my John, my guy, John's just really 643 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: good at what he does. So man, indeed, the very 644 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: deep tight ends draft. 645 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: All right. 646 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: Lastly, Uh, the the NFL Draft is a month from today, and. 647 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith is returning, isn't he. 648 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: I I'm not asking you to make a declaration. I'm 649 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: just saying we had that ballyhooed retirement ceremony. 650 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: We had no twenty two and that's fine. 651 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: And then your guy Derwin James taps out of the 652 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: flag football game in La. Well, Hitman's out. I'll play 653 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: running around looking good, super cool like the hit Man. 654 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: But it's so quiet, and you know better than anybody, 655 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: when it's quiet like this, the wheels are grinding most loudly, 656 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: and I just I just I gut feeling as he plays. 657 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: Again, that wouldn't shock me at all, because go in 658 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: other words, you know, and you don't want to no, no, no, 659 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 660 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: But like he he sort of talked about it, like 661 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: you know, he and I were talking about it after 662 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: the game in the in the locker room postgame, and 663 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: and he very much because I either I brought it 664 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: up or he brought up the Eric Kendrick situation where 665 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: you know, he didn't get picked up for half the 666 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: season then and then and then the forty nine ers 667 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 3: needed a guy and they bring him in. And so like, 668 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: I think that he's he's not the way I interpreted 669 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 3: that was, he's not ready for a full retirement. I 670 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 3: need to have a press conference. I'm ending my career 671 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, I think he is looking at it 672 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: as like, let my let my mind and my body heal. 673 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to leave the doors open. 674 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: If the Vikings are in a situation or a team, 675 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put the Vikings obviously like ninety nine percent 676 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: the team that he just wants to. 677 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: Come back for. 678 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: If we're in a playoff run in week eight and 679 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: we have a guy that goes down or we need 680 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: a little a little leadership for this playoff push, then 681 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: he absolutely is gonna leave the door open. And I 682 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: do think that that's most likely what's going to happen. 683 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: And he has earned guidelines where others follow rules. And 684 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: here's what I mean is you don't have to come 685 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: to organized team activities if you don't want. 686 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: We can, but you know, but we do. 687 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: Have to have the Covenant catchup, just check up, just 688 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: to make sure that you know the workouts are going okay, 689 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: not that you're not doing them, but that it's working 690 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: okay for full throttle. So you're going to go from 691 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: this and you know, maybe mini camp and then chill 692 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: fireworks any Dina with Nacho le and then when you 693 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: come back, your body's got to be good, ma'am. So 694 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: will there would be covenant catchups, but my man's earned guidelines. 695 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: If you don't want to be in organized team activities 696 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: but you want to play, that's fine. 697 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: So we don't know the schedule until what May. I 698 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: think it's going to come out a week or two 699 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: after the draft. If that bye week is week seven 700 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: to eight, prime situation to give him a little ring 701 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: ring and be like, hey, man, bye week's coming up, 702 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 3: how's your body feeling. 703 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: Let's bring in a little physical. 704 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 3: He comes in, has a full bye week to basically 705 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: be at the facility and get all his workouts in 706 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: and make sure that what he's been doing in the 707 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: off season and what he's been doing during the season 708 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 3: to stay in shape checks out to what they want. 709 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: They don't want to run into a Frank Ragnow situation 710 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: where he wants to go in and take over that 711 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: center spot and then realize he's got a Grade two 712 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: hamstring terror or whatever because he's out there training trying 713 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 3: to get ready. 714 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: So I think if we have a late bye week, perfect. 715 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: Opportunity to bring him back and at that point in 716 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: October or November when they need him and they want 717 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: it and he wants to play, then it's going to 718 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: be like Riz, remember when you squeezed me back here? 719 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: Y'a'll play ten million? 720 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: We love that. 721 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: What's your cap thirteen? I'll take ten. 722 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I am so happy to see you again. I'm 723 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: glad your spring break went well. And we'll watch you 724 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: on TV today, Channel five at three to four thirty. 725 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: All right, thank you man, going to see you. Twins 726 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: Cities Live and Ben Lieber. It's ten forty five. We're 727 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: back after this. 728 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: What up nine to noon? Welcome back. It's news Denord 729 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: and news Denor. 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Now, before we sit down and we 735 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 5: look at what's forward, let's go backwards in time just 736 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 5: a moment and listen to a fun finish at Targets 737 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 5: Center last evening Bolts. 738 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,959 Speaker 1: Against Jay shot Tate shot clock down to eight off 739 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: the TJ screen. 740 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: Now Randall with us five to shoots Julius on a run. 741 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 4: Shut saw praise himself fifteen first god Temperwolf take the 742 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 4: league one ten to one of eight up fifteen all 743 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 4: min Asma run. Unbelievable. 744 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: Alan Horton on the call. 745 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 5: By the way, a little side note, Alan Horton has 746 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 5: eclipsed fifteen hundred games as a Timberwolves box and hold on. 747 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 5: It's got to be nineteen nearly twenty seasons now for Allen, Yes, 748 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 5: sir calling the oh so, congratulations to him, Congratulations. 749 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 1: To the Wolves. 750 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 5: And we talked about it a bit in the open, PA, 751 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 5: but it was the run by the Rockets to force OT. 752 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 5: It was the run to start OT by the Rockets 753 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 5: that put the Wolves in a spot where you threw 754 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 5: this stat out the team's ten or more in terms 755 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 5: of being at a deficit in overtime, teams down by 756 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 5: ten or more. We're o to one eighty, I think, 757 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 5: is how you framed it up in the open. They're 758 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 5: now one in one ADPA because that fifteen to oh 759 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 5: run found them one ten to one oh eight. Kevin 760 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 5: Durant gets fouled by Julius, has the chance to shoot 761 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 5: two free throws. The team had been perfect from the 762 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 5: stripe all night. Suddenly KD misses the first one, tries 763 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 5: to force miss the second one, and the rest is history. 764 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 5: Wolves find that w They've won four of their last five, 765 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 5: so we dig that specifically in those games, lacking or 766 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 5: not having Anthony Edwards sounds like he is nearing a return. 767 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 5: But last night, whether it was Jaden McDaniels getting crampy, 768 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 5: we have Rudy fouling out, we got Nas being asked 769 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 5: to leave the game. All those things no Io desumu. 770 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 5: Last night, all those potential roadblocks and hurdles, the Wolves 771 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 5: found their way to a victory. They're now fifth and 772 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 5: creating a nice little gap between the Wolves and the 773 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 5: fifth spot. And I believe now nearly five games behind 774 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 5: them would sit the Suns in seven, so staying out 775 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 5: of the play in if that was the operation, which 776 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 5: is about ten or so games to go, the Wolves 777 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 5: are very close to solidifying and accomplishing that. 778 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: You're a half behind Denver for home ice in the 779 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: first round and just two games behind the Lakers. So 780 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: for third for the third spot, nobody's catching San Antonio 781 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: or OKC. San Antonio might slash probably we'll catch Oklahoma 782 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: City for the top seed in the Western Conference. 783 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: That's how hot set squad is when Anthony Edwards returns. 784 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 2: My eight topic of what I've seen in the last 785 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: five games is continuing to get Jaden McDaniels his shots 786 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: and continuing to keep him engaged and part of the offense. 787 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: Not because we're like patting somebody on the head saying 788 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 2: that's all good, Jaden McDaniels, thank you very much for 789 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: your service. No, because he's good, because his offensive skills 790 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: are good, and he's not going to get the one 791 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 2: or probably two defensive matchup from the adversarrea. He'll get 792 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: something less and he'll beat it and maybe he'll draw 793 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 2: attention and then he can kick and then other people score. 794 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 2: So might start this Saturday. I think it's a four 795 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 2: thirty game at Target Center against the Pistons. 796 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 5: The march madness continues, pa as the Sweet sixteen continues 797 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 5: this evening. 798 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna get it now. 799 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 5: First weekend has typically been the most enjoyable from the 800 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 5: standpoint if you're looking at Cinderella's you're looking at potential 801 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 5: massive upsets. This weekend kind of digs in where the 802 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 5: Juggernauts and the matchups become as much the story as anything. 803 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I when Nebraska is going to be sweet 804 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 5: Arkansas and Arizona, Illinois and Houston this evening. 805 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: So you have four really cool games. 806 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 5: Purdue as as I mentioned, lifting off against Texas at six. 807 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so looking forward to that. 808 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 5: But in the vein of national tournaments about the trip 809 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 5: to the Frozen Four, the hunt for the Frozen Four. 810 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 5: As today you got four games in the mix, Michigan 811 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 5: State and Yukon that's going to be twelve thirty. Then 812 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 5: you have Dartmouth and Wisconsin. Let's go Dartmouth beat the 813 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 5: scanis number two ranked North Dakota and Merymack in the 814 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 5: evening set. Another one at four o'clock. Today's well Providence 815 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 5: in Quinnipiac, which we now know. I believe Quinnipiack are 816 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 5: the Bobcats. So the tournament underway stinks that our favorite 817 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 5: team is not in the mix, but of course state 818 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 5: of the fan as it is, whether it's North Dakota, 819 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 5: let's go crazy up in Grand Forks, UMD Bulldogs are 820 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 5: in it. They play tomorrow evening against Penn State and 821 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 5: a fun Let's fan Cato, Let's do it fan Cato. 822 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 5: The MAVs are up against Western Michigan tomorrow afternoon as well, 823 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 5: So some fun games to watch. How closely are you 824 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 5: going to dig into? Now, we got our coach in 825 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 5: maroon and gold, they get to chill and sadly our 826 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 5: spectators do. 827 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: This whole thing. But digging into the national Tournament. 828 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: Well, I do believe Brett Larson will be in studio 829 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 2: nine to noon next week at least that's what That's 830 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 2: what it seems to be leading to, and that would 831 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 2: be funky fresh if that were the worthy case. Secondly, 832 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: you know I've said this before, just for whatever the reason, 833 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 2: I don't watch a lot of college basketball during the 834 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: regular season, but I watch more during the NCAA Tournament 835 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 2: than I watch in like three regular seasons year after 836 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 2: year after year. I love the NCAA Basketball Tournament. There 837 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: are so many things that are revealing to me because 838 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: I've just never seen or heard of a lot of 839 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 2: these players. If there is a better player in the 840 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: NCAA Tournament than Arkansas's freshman Darius A. Cuff Junior, I 841 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 2: got to see it. He's unbelievably good. He's such a 842 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 2: phenomenal basketball player, and I think he could elevate Calipari's 843 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: team to a victory in the Elite eight. Fred Hoiberg 844 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 2: joined Nine to Noon earlier this week off the dramatic 845 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 2: victory they had against Vanderbilt, and that thing was just 846 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: all about a spine tingler. Well, I'm pulling for Fred. 847 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: He I've noticed family for nearly a quarter century. Fred 848 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: salt of the earth. I want him to win it all. 849 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 2: And I didn't pick him to win it all. And 850 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: if Michigan happens to beat Duke in the NCAA tournament, 851 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: I might be I might be scooping metaphorical chips. 852 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: Let's go. 853 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 2: But I would prefer Fred Hoiberg and these Huskers who 854 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 2: are favored over Iowa. They split with them this year. 855 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 2: One of the games was like fifty five to fifty, 856 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 2: and I think tonight's going to be of the underwhelming variety. 857 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 2: But you know it's I'm thinking, like, I'm thinking happiness 858 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: for people I know. That'd be Hoiberg and Sam and 859 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 2: his twin brother Jackson, and Carol, his wife. 860 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: That'd be sweet. 861 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 2: But it also means Freddy come on nine to New 862 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 2: Monday or Tuesday to talk about being in the final four. 863 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: Then maybe personal and professional angle to this. 864 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 2: Well, that's not yes, it's not it's a I mean, yes, 865 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: it obliterates a segment, no doubt about it. But a 866 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 2: lot of Cornhusker fans all over the country, a lot 867 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: of people morph their way to people like Fred Hoiberg 868 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 2: because he's antithetical to a lot of people and how 869 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 2: they execute their toil in the world of sports. So 870 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 2: it's phenomenal. I love the NCAA Tournament Frozen Four. They 871 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 2: let sand Lin in. That's all I'm gonna say. They 872 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: let sand Lin in. Big mistake with sandlen In. I 873 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 2: think with ten or twelve losses, Okay, they let him in. 874 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 2: Du had the audacity to lose ten or eleven this year. 875 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 2: They don't care about the regular season. They care about 876 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament, the Frozen Four. Yeah, so du and 877 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 2: they let sand Lin in. 878 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: H That's where I'm casting my gaze. 879 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's gonna be some people watching Duluth and the 880 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 5: Bulldogs handle business. 881 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: Shouldn't let him in. Chip turn of chants for Sandalin 882 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: And you're right, Denver. 883 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 5: Everyone forgets they have a program until they're hoisting the 884 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 5: national trophy. 885 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. Last thing for you. 886 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's baseball season PA two O five PM. Minnesota 887 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 5: Twins in Baltimore, Joe Ryan on the mound versus Trevor Rodgers. 888 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 5: The twenty twenty six Camp pain is about to be underway, 889 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 5: and all I have for you at this particular moment 890 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 5: is I love the new manager and I'm rooting for 891 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 5: Derek Shelton likewise, So best of luck to the Minnesota Twins. 892 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 5: As one hundred and sixty two of these things, the 893 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 5: first one happens today, Yeah, and that's that's news. 894 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: And we had one last night it was the Yankees 895 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: and the Jigante. 896 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 2: So it's all underway. It's all underway. It's all happening 897 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 2: at Marathon to is major League Baseball. Jojo goes for 898 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 2: US today against Trevor Rodgers. Royce Lewis is batting eighth, 899 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 2: and to talk about that and more around the corner, 900 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 2: we believe Lavelle O Neil, the third columnist for the 901 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 2: Star Tribune, will be joining us. Then former Twins general 902 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 2: manager Thad Levine. He's on the nine to noon show 903 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 2: about thirty minutes from now. Back after this