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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Costs Radio.

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Speaker 2: My thanks to Hiawatha Bray of the Boston Globe. Hiawatha

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Speaker 2: is just an incredible guest. Harvey silver Glad an incredible

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Speaker 2: caller as well. Thank Rachel for calling in as well. Uh.

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Speaker 2: They these are these are difficult subjects to talk about

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Speaker 2: on a talk show because within my audience there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of people who probably are not as familiar with

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Speaker 2: this this controversy as as as others are. So what

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Speaker 2: I want to do is I want to give this

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Speaker 2: a shot, okay, and I hope that enough of you

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Speaker 2: will be interested in the topic that we can we

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Speaker 2: can talk about this for a while. You just listened

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Speaker 2: to I think you know, a First Amendment attorney talking

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Speaker 2: about how critical it is, uh that all types of

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Speaker 2: speech you know, within some restrictions, but within very limited restrictions,

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Speaker 2: be available. At the same time, you have a country

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Speaker 2: like Australia, which is a very Western type country founded,

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Speaker 2: as you know, by people who were exiled in many

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Speaker 2: cases from the British Isles, but they are very Western

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Speaker 2: in terms of their orientation, and they are now saying

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Speaker 2: that kids under the age of sixteen will not be

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Speaker 2: allowed to use these social media sites, whether it's Facebook, Meta, Instagram,

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Speaker 2: TikTok or whatever. Hiawatha was talking with Harvey in the

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Speaker 2: in the last part of the last hour, prompted by

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Speaker 2: Rachel's call that where's the responsibility of the parents? Here?

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Speaker 2: We watched in Los Angeles today some people win a lawsuit,

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Speaker 2: win a lawsuit against these these social media behemoths, and

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Speaker 2: they were very happy in One of the things that

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Speaker 2: they insisted on saying was don't blame the parents. Don't

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Speaker 2: blame the parents. It's the world in which we live,

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Speaker 2: and that these Again, the jury concluded in Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: that these companies developed algorithms which they could utilize which

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Speaker 2: would basically keep people watching the screen. Now, anyone in

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Speaker 2: my audience who has ever been on a computer has

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Speaker 2: to admit that at some point they see something, and

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Speaker 2: whether it's a comedian doing a set, and you'll listen

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Speaker 2: for a couple of minutes and you think, oh, I've

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Speaker 2: never seen that, that's pretty funny whatever, and you go

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Speaker 2: from comedian to comedian to comedian, or you see, as

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Speaker 2: I say, I can sit and watch these these what

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Speaker 2: you call blooper plays or even I'll tell you one

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Speaker 2: thing that that that I see, and I'm actually on

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Speaker 2: a couple are blooper reels. Now, it's one thing for

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Speaker 2: me at the end of the day to spend fifteen

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Speaker 2: minutes or during the day, to spend fifteen minutes watching

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Speaker 2: blooper reels and saying, that could have been me there

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Speaker 2: the guy that get hit with the pie or whatever

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Speaker 2: while doing a live shot in Louisville making that up.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you you you think, well, you know, that's that's

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Speaker 2: part of what I did for a job. Or if

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Speaker 2: you if you like to watch hockey fights, there's there's

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Speaker 2: a few out there. I'm going to ask you right

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Speaker 2: now if you if you do feel that you've been

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Speaker 2: trapped by social media, tell me what you watch. Again,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear anything about porn. That's fine.

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Speaker 2: If some of you out there watch porn, you keep

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Speaker 2: it to yourself, as simple as that. But there'll be

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Speaker 2: things that people watch. But also I want to know

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Speaker 2: from parents, do you know what your kids watching when

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Speaker 2: they're up in their room on the computer. And again,

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Speaker 2: you know, if they're fourteen or twelve, you should know,

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Speaker 2: you need to know. I can remember there were things

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Speaker 2: that my kids had an interest in. It was more

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Speaker 2: my son, to be honest with you, my daughter. I

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Speaker 2: kind of figured that my son wanted to watch what

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Speaker 2: was the Rob, you can help me with this? What

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Speaker 2: was the stolen car? Which was kind of preceded Fortnite?

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Speaker 2: Do remember that you must know this, Rob, Grand Theft Auto?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Rob. Rob is my expert. Rob. You should

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Speaker 2: be doing this hour and I should be back where

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Speaker 2: you are handling the phones. My son was dying to

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Speaker 2: get Grand Theft Auto and what I was told and again,

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Speaker 2: help me out, folks, because this was twenty years ago,

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Speaker 2: more than twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, Rob,

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Speaker 2: would you say sometime in the late nineties, late nineties, okay?

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Speaker 2: And and helped me out, Rob minustanding he was stealing

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Speaker 2: cars was also like shooting police officers, okay, And that

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Speaker 2: just wasn't gonna go down in my house. Now, my

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Speaker 2: son got over the interest in that. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you ever got to see Grand Theft Auto, play

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Speaker 2: Grand Theft Auto or whatever? It was a game, right Rob?

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Speaker 2: You how many what was the how many cars you

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Speaker 2: could steal? How many police you could shoot? Was that

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Speaker 2: the that the deal? Yeah, pretty sick stuff. What happened?

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Speaker 2: Did that just kind of lose its appeal and has disappeared? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Grand theft Auto six? Okay? So o man, okay, so

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Speaker 2: so I know that my friend Harvey Silver Guy would say, Hey,

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Speaker 2: if some kid wants to watch thought grind theft Auto six, fine,

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Speaker 2: wasn't gonna happen me? And what they will probably gread

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Speaker 2: that one on one? Are they each getting more violent

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Speaker 2: and progressively? Rob? I assume huh but the same? Okay,

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Speaker 2: so they know what they are okay, fair enough. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to open up the phone lines and I

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Speaker 2: would love to know, as parents or as kids did

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Speaker 2: how did your parent treacher? And maybe therein is an

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Speaker 2: answer as to what the solution is here. I guess

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Speaker 2: if the the awards and Harvey Silverglade are First Amendment

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Speaker 2: lawyer friend said that he does not think that these uh,

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Speaker 2: these decisions and these awards will be upheld. They'll be

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Speaker 2: reduced on appeal or maybe overturned. Maybe maybe, but I

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Speaker 2: think it is a case of first impression. And as

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Speaker 2: they say, when when we were watching as kids, the

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Speaker 2: the Three Stooges, I mean it was over in half

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Speaker 2: the three Stooges were on. It's all different now, it's

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Speaker 2: all different. Now, it's more intense, it's more algorithmic. If

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Speaker 2: I can make up a word, I think that would

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Speaker 2: be an adjective where your kid could be on or

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Speaker 2: her computer in the room and wasted a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what the kids, when you think about it,

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Speaker 2: or anyone is spending it's time. My friend Lavelle Diet

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Speaker 2: many years ago, he used to end the show by saying,

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Speaker 2: time is really the only money you have spend it wisely,

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Speaker 2: pretty good line. It's true. We all have a limited

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Speaker 2: amount of time, whether we're in junior high school, high school, college,

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Speaker 2: make the most of your time and also enjoying some

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Speaker 2: time off. And that's kind of the question that this

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Speaker 2: no the Los Angeles case, Facebook and Instagram YouTube was

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Speaker 3: The the New Mexico case, Meta and YouTube, the the Californa.

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Speaker 3: The Los Angeles case essentially said that Meta and YouTube

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Speaker 3: are responsible for horrific consequences of a young girl who

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Speaker 3: at the age of six became addicted to the platforms,

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Speaker 2: That's the cause of action. And let me get one

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Speaker 2: more SoundBite here from the lawyer and also from a

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Speaker 2: couple of parents. They let me go to Cut thirty.

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Speaker 2: This is the attorney, Mark Lennier, who was the lawyer

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Speaker 2: representing the plaintiff in the case, Kaylee go Ahead robed

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Speaker 4: YouTube's defenses that they were just TV were shunned by

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Speaker 4: the jury, and the jury said that YouTube Google failed

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Speaker 4: to operate YouTube in a reasonable fashion and it's their

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Speaker 2: And there were a lot of parents there supporting Kaylee,

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Speaker 2: and any of them were holding signs of pictures of

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Speaker 2: woman who name is Juliana Arnold. She is quite upset,

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Speaker 2: and you can understand the cut thirty one. She'll explain

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Speaker 5: Rather, there's the right thing to do and the wrong

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Speaker 5: thing to do, and they are on the wrong side.

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Speaker 2: So for them, for the biggest tech executives, I want

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Speaker 2: to say something. Stop blaming the parents. It's on you.

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Speaker 2: That was the defense that the jury didn't buy today

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, that the parents have the primary responsibility

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Speaker 2: of making sure that their children do not become addicted

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Speaker 2: to this product that YouTube, meta Instagram or whatever, of

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Speaker 2: putting out. So it's a good debate. I'd love to

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Speaker 2: hear from you. How did your parents either treat you

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Speaker 2: when you were first introduced to computers? How did you

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Speaker 2: keep that within reason, within whatever age you were, whatever

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Speaker 2: other responsibilities you had in school or work, and as parents,

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Speaker 2: what were the rules in your house. These are issues

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Speaker 2: that eventually are going to decide these cases, and at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day we may see a very

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Speaker 2: different social media landscape if all of a sudden, these

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Speaker 2: companies are shackled with judgments multimillion maybe multi billion dollar

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Speaker 2: judgments that they are not able to satisfy, and they

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Speaker 2: simply go bankrupt and go out of business. Now, maybe

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Speaker 2: Harvey Silverglade is right and the cases will be overturned.

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Speaker 2: But we have reached a point here after years where

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Speaker 2: the decisions are in. Can they be appealed? Yes? Can

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Speaker 2: Back on Nightside right after this.

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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w b Z,

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Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, little programming note here. Tomorrow night

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Speaker 2: at nine o'clock, we will be talking with the president

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Speaker 2: of Brandeis University, Arthur Levigne. He's an education scholar and

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Speaker 2: because an academic administrator. He's the tenth president at Brandeis University.

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Speaker 2: He's been there since I twenty twenty four. He has

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Speaker 2: co authored a book with Scott Van Pelt called From

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Speaker 2: Upheaval to Action, What Works in Changing Higher Education. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk with him tomorrow night at nine, and then at

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Speaker 2: ten tomorrow night we'll talk with a retired major a

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Speaker 2: brigadier no Major general, retired General Robert F. D's who

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Speaker 2: will We'll talk with him about what's going on in

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Speaker 2: Iran and what the us needs to do to either

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Speaker 2: thoughts on that. So I'm going to give up on

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Speaker 2: the the meta story today. I think it's probably something

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Speaker 2: that most of you are not interested in. And when

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Speaker 2: enough to know that I'm not going to beat a

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Speaker 2: dead horse. So we will wrap up with that. And

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Speaker 2: what I'm going to do is open up the phone lines.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to do I'm going to give you

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Speaker 2: open phone lines anything you want to talk about, any

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Speaker 2: about what's going on in Iran or what's not going

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Speaker 2: I think feel some pressure to either wrap this up

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Speaker 2: a friend of mine, actually change exchange an email message

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Speaker 2: with a friend of mine who is a really smart guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you who he is, but

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Speaker 2: he was saying to me that he is quite concerned

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Speaker 2: somebody who is unsophisticated in any way, shape or form,

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Speaker 2: He says that, in his opinion, things will get worse

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Speaker 2: before they get better, and I fear nuclear weapons. I

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Speaker 2: don't fear that in this situation because I think, and

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Speaker 2: again this is a subject which we can talk about

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, because I'm thinking that it's more about addiction

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what. That's what. That's what. Two jurys

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Speaker 6: And when I went and when I run my music pages,

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Speaker 6: And just the one thing is I'm not doing too well.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I see all these people. I see

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Speaker 2: Sorry, so I'm giving your open line opportunity. If you

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Speaker 2: Good? Little disappointed that that other topic didn't have more

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Speaker 2: And I just think that you're okay, John.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a bunch of deer in front of me.

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Speaker 2: How many deer you got?

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Speaker 2: This was probably well, that was what happened. All of

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Speaker 2: a sudden we saw the lines were there. I don't

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Speaker 2: have any way to explain it. How our equipment has

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Speaker 2: gotten into this point. It's occurring much too often. I

438
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Speaker 2: don't know if there's we can call it gremlins, but

439
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Speaker 2: it's it's it's not it's not good for the radio station.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I hope the radio station is not impacted

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Speaker 2: this way during the day. Why it seems to be

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Speaker 2: impacted at night is a problem, but I'll write it

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Speaker 2: off to the gramm one's John. Okay, So I thank

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Speaker 2: you for coming.

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Speaker 8: Probably yeah, yeah, there's probably an intermittent hardware problem. That's

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Speaker 8: very difficult the sense where it's coming from. You know,

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Speaker 8: I don't. I don't think there's somebody making an operator

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Speaker 8: error when it comes to it.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no, because one, it's no absolutely,

450
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Speaker 2: there's no one who's who's no one who's sabotaging the station.

451
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Speaker 2: It's just that the station has fallen into some disrepair. John,

452
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Speaker 2: I want to try to accommodate everybody. We will talk soon.

453
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Speaker 2: I'm back tomorrow night. We've got some good guests coming

454
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Speaker 2: up tomorrow night. The president of Brandeis University as well

455
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Speaker 2: as retired major general are going to talk about Iran

456
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Speaker 2: and what needs to be done over then, of course

457
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Speaker 2: we'll have a twentieth hour tomorrow night as well, so

458
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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you, Yes, I want to thank you.

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Speaker 8: If I'm run in such a great show. It's very

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Speaker 8: interesting and it keeps me awake very much every night

462
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Speaker 8: I come home some nice I'm no, really, I mean,

463
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Speaker 8: you just have the talent to have the conversations on

464
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Speaker 8: so many subjects. You just have the background knowledge for it, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, John, You're You're kind. You're kind to say that

466
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Speaker 2: I probably don't feel great about my show tonight for

467
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of reasons, not the least of which

468
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Speaker 2: is the fact that you know, we had the equivalent

469
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Speaker 2: of a plane crash. But the good news is in radio,

470
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Speaker 2: when the show crashes, when the equipment crashes, unlike airplanes,

471
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: nobody dies. John, you'd be safe. We'll talk to me now, okay, Buddy,

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Speaker 2: all right, good night, Dan, Right, good night, pe I

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Lett. Go to Bell in Pennsylvania. Bill, your

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Speaker 2: next on nights side, Go right ahead. I got you

475
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Speaker 2: in a couple of more I want to get in. Hey, Bill,

476
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Speaker 2: thanks for checking in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, Dan, Yeah, it dropped me a couple of

478
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Speaker 5: times too. But anyways, listen, Uh, as far as the

479
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Speaker 5: meta thing that's gonna go on for years, everybody's saying that,

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00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 5: you know, the appeals are going for years, But I

481
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Speaker 5: want to ask you a question today. Three different stations.

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Speaker 5: I saw Seth Moulten, and Seth Moulton has said three

483
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Speaker 5: times today on different stations that we have lost the war.

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Speaker 5: What's with this guy?

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Speaker 2: Well, he is running in Massachusetts and he's trying to

486
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Speaker 2: get to the left of Eddie Marky, who's the current

487
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Speaker 2: US Senator, And that might be his opinion. He spent

488
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Speaker 2: some time over there to give him credit, uh in

489
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Speaker 2: Afghanistan and Iraq and went to Harvard, was in RTC

490
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Speaker 2: and Harvard. I don't think that's helpful because that will

491
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Speaker 2: be turned He should know better than most that that

492
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Speaker 2: will be turned into into a running in propaganda and

493
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Speaker 2: probably they will play his sound bites on Iranian TV.

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Speaker 2: They very much control what their nation hears about.

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Speaker 5: I like the guy personally because I was in a

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Speaker 5: Marine Corps too, but it's exactly what's gonna happen. I

497
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Speaker 5: remember in Vietnam, you know Jane Fond and all the.

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Speaker 2: Rest of Oh yeah, I mean, if he wants to

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Speaker 2: be known as the Jane Fonder of the Iran War,

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Speaker 2: I guess that's fine. But he's desperately trying to get

501
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Speaker 2: to the left of Eddie Marky. He's given up a

502
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Speaker 2: fear a very safe congressional seat. I don't think he

503
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Speaker 2: has the ability to backtrack, although I guess he's still

504
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Speaker 2: has time.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't. He seems meaner and meaner and like he's

506
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Speaker 5: mad all the time. Every time I see him on TV,

507
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Speaker 5: it looks like he's mad.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that he felt that he would be

509
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Speaker 2: able to get an eighty year old senator and move

510
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Speaker 2: him out. He he thought about running for president in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. So again, I know Seth very well. I'm

512
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Speaker 2: sure he's not happy to hear me say this. I've

513
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Speaker 2: invited to Kwana's show. He used to have a press

514
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Speaker 2: secretary who I liked a lot and who we work

515
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Speaker 2: with very well. Not so much these days. So I

516
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Speaker 2: don't disagree with you, Bill, and I wish you had

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Speaker 2: a better answer. I got two more. I'm gonna try

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Speaker 2: to sneak in by. Yeah, we'll talk to him. Okay,

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Speaker 2: talk tomorrow, h Linda in North Weymouth. I got to

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Speaker 2: get room for you, and also room for another caller

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Speaker 2: from Norfolk.

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Speaker 7: Go ahead, Linda, Good evening, Dan, thank you for taking

523
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Speaker 7: my car.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome, Thank you for calling.

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Speaker 9: I I agree with you one hundred percent about President

526
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 9: Trump doing what he's doing with Irene. My only my

527
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Speaker 9: only question is how are we going to end this?

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Speaker 9: Because these uh, these radical Iranians, not the not all

529
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Speaker 9: of Iranian but those radicals the religious belief Well, they're.

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Speaker 2: The ones that have the they're the ones that control

531
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Speaker 2: the guns. They're the ones that control the military, uh

532
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Speaker 2: and the I R C. I don't know. Maybe Trump's

533
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: going to have to hit some infrastructure problems over there,

534
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: which is going to, you know, badly damage the the

535
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Speaker 2: the entirety of the country. I don't know, but it's

536
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Speaker 2: it's that sort of a weight of decision that I'm

537
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Speaker 2: glad it's not resting on my sharehoulders.

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Speaker 5: Exactly.

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Speaker 7: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: A great question, Thank you, great question, Thank you. Let's

541
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Speaker 2: get final quick call. Pez. You had kind of enough

542
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: to call pes, go right ahead? Is it peas correct? Pez?

543
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: I got about I got a good thirty five seconds

544
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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 7: Whatever, make it quick. So I grew up pretty liberal family,

546
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Speaker 7: and but I was disappointed to it. I mean, discipline

547
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Speaker 7: to a point. But I went to a vocational school

548
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 7: and that helped me. My shop teachers would have never

549
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Speaker 7: tolerated cell phones in the classroom. Yeah, they would have.

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't know what they do now. I

551
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Speaker 7: mean I can can I say the school was Blue

552
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Speaker 7: Hills and Canada is a good school, very very good

553
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 7: shop teachers. They would have never tolerated that. You can't

554
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 7: let the kids run the classroom. You know, I'm an

555
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 7: adult now, but when I was a kid, I was

556
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Speaker 7: an idiot and kill.

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Speaker 2: Us were That's what's called majuring PEZ with that, that's

558
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Speaker 2: what's called maturation. Right, It's a process you got to

559
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: go through. Pees do me a favorite. I really, I'm

560
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Speaker 2: really a time, but I want.

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Speaker 7: You to dis finishes real quick. So and a short thing.

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Speaker 7: I would just say that having phones in the classroom

563
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Speaker 7: is not a good idea.

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Speaker 2: But absolutely, tezz I'm flat out of time. You got

565
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: to call earlier and I will. I'll have much more

566
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Speaker 2: time for you. I thank you for trying to get

567
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Speaker 2: in tonight, particularly into some difficult circumstances. I will end

568
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: as always not going to do a post game. By

569
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: the way, all dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven.

570
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Speaker 2: That's why Pal Charlie raised who passed sixteen years ago

571
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: in February. That's all your pets are who passed. They

572
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: loved you you love them. I do believe you'll see

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Speaker 2: them again. Rob Brooks, great job under difficult circumstances. This

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Speaker 2: is Dan Ray for the Night's Side Back Tomorrow night

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Speaker 2: at eight o'clock. Be there a B square