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Speaker 1: The dream is dying.

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Speaker 2: In the East Regional first round game, Duke pulling away

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Speaker 2: late after being down eleven at the half to sixteen seeds.

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Speaker 2: Sienna guards, you had given me a stat from the

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Speaker 2: TV crew during the break seventeen offensive rebounds for Duke

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Speaker 2: and then they just got another one after that on

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Speaker 2: a missed free throw on the front end of a

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Speaker 2: one and one situation.

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Speaker 1: I've got it now.

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Speaker 2: Sianta just scored a layup to cut it the four

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Speaker 2: with was it ten seconds to go in the game,

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Speaker 2: exactly ten to sixty five, So it looks like the

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Speaker 2: apparently or unfortunately are going to run out of time,

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Speaker 2: But it was it was fun and I don't know,

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Speaker 2: you know, what is it? What do you make of

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Speaker 2: Duke in that regard? Is it they're not as good

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Speaker 2: as advertiser? Is this just one of those weird first

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Speaker 2: round games where they never look back after they survive?

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Speaker 1: The scare very difficult to say.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Sianna's coaches using the TIBs strategy of playing

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Speaker 2: the starters for ninety eight percent of the game. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mentioned if TIBs, we've got like, is it two

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Speaker 2: of the top three or four?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: In hockey and minutes played. It's Quinnesota and Fabes. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm just thrown out there as signs of positivity, as

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Speaker 2: a compliment to how good those players are. If Tibbs

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Speaker 2: does something like that, there are people calling for his head.

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Speaker 1: Hockey's different.

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Speaker 2: I guess though, huh, you can do whatever, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure TIBs comeback would be the same. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: playing these guys extra minutes because they're really really good,

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Speaker 2: and I lose too much when they're out. But in

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Speaker 2: hockey apparently no big deal. So you know, it's a

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Speaker 2: different world, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 2: Between well, you know what the bottom line of it

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Speaker 2: is is that TIBs got too much grief. We all

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Speaker 2: know that it's everything is Tim's fault. I don't think

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Speaker 2: they can blame him for those hockey numbers. No, but

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Speaker 2: that is indeed the reality of a top of the

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Speaker 2: four o'clock hour Bumper to Bumper program Barrero and guards

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Speaker 2: You with You until six fifteen Tonight, Russo Radio is

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Speaker 2: coming up at about four to thirty excuse me, five

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Speaker 2: oh two four thirty. Tentatively we're going to get to

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Speaker 2: the inbox and will keep you apprized of any of these.

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Speaker 3: Vandy and mcneese's ball games typing up. Yeah, true TV

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Speaker 3: nine to sixteen, another five versus twelve, Yeah, yeah, because.

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Speaker 1: Izzo's pulling away from the Bison right now, they're up

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Speaker 1: by seventeen. Yeah, doubling them up almost well, why he's

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Speaker 1: trying to make things interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah against Arkansas, a four seed. That's coach cal correct, Yes,

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Speaker 2: he's at Arkansas now, So.

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Speaker 3: Nine to seventeen. If you wanted to watch McNeese And

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Speaker 3: who did I say Vandy? I think you said Vandy

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Speaker 3: is correct?

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: So here's the soccer controversy, and somebody has anticipated it

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Speaker 2: because we have a number of soccer insiders who listened

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Speaker 2: to the program. By the way, it's now a final

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Speaker 2: in the East Regional. Duke seventy one, Sienna sixty five.

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Speaker 2: The Blue Devil's a top seed in Greenville, South Carolina,

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Speaker 2: survive a fairly significant scare. But the offensive rebounding edge

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Speaker 2: is really what saved Duke because Duke did not shoot well,

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Speaker 2: but they kept getting second, third, fourth, and fifth looks,

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Speaker 2: free throw attempts. Nothing new there are compared to Sienna

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Speaker 2: in that regard. And the weird thing is I don't

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Speaker 2: usually participate in the Duke hate and Doke conspiracy stuff,

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Speaker 2: but it's too much fun today to not include it.

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Speaker 2: All right, So here's what I understand regarding this. Was

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Speaker 2: in the Africa Cup of Nations title round, Senegal was

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Speaker 2: crowned AFCON champions on jan eighteen with a one nil

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Speaker 2: victory over Morocco. Okay, but the Confederation of African Football

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Speaker 2: CAAF set in a statement day before yesterday, Tuesday, fifty

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Speaker 2: seven days after the game itself was played, that it's

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Speaker 2: appeal board had declared Senegal forfeitted the game. So the

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Speaker 2: new result is Morocco wins it three to nothing. You say,

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Speaker 2: may know all about this too. The decision relates to

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Speaker 2: what's described as a breach of AFCON regulations after Senegal

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Speaker 2: at a referee's decision. So the referee a orded Morocco

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Speaker 2: a penalty in second half stoppage time after being recommended

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Speaker 2: after Senegal had a match winning goal disallowed minutes before

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Speaker 2: Senegal's coach tells his players get out of there, leave

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Speaker 2: and continue playing. Sixteen minutes after the spot kick had

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Speaker 2: been awarded, Senegal's players do return to the field, and

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Speaker 2: the beauty of it is their goaltender makes a tremendous

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Speaker 2: save on the penalty kick, and Senegal then holds on

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Speaker 2: to a one to nothing victory by I shouldn't They

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Speaker 2: so they celebrate thinking they've won the thing. They believe

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Speaker 2: they've won the thing. But according to cf statement, the

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Speaker 2: Senegal team's actions leaving the pitch within the scope of

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Speaker 2: two of your favorite articles eighty two and eighty four

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Speaker 2: of the AFCON regulations. They infringe article eighty two, which

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Speaker 2: states that the team will forfeit the game if it

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Speaker 2: without being authorized to do so by the ref and

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Speaker 2: apparently it's the other. Article eighty four says that the

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Speaker 2: offending team will then forfeit the game three nothing unless

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Speaker 2: their opponents were leading by a more advantageous advantageous score line.

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Speaker 2: Senegales Football Federation, not surprising, call the verdict unfair.

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Speaker 1: They announced a will appeal it to.

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Speaker 2: The ruling to something called the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

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Speaker 1: So the moral of the story is don't leave. You

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Speaker 1: never know what it's going to do to you if

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Speaker 1: you just decide to leave.

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Speaker 2: And again, the great irony is it's almost like they

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Speaker 2: going to give up the goal, right, they didn't have

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Speaker 1: They didn't give up the goal. So that's the deal.

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Speaker 2: So they leave the pitch thinking they've won it, this

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Speaker 2: is for the title, won nothing, and now two months

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Speaker 2: later they're told, not so fast, my friend, you actually

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Speaker 2: lost it three nil.

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Speaker 1: And Morocco is now the champ.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's correct, and that I'm so I didn't know

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Speaker 3: about this story, so I've been trying to catch up

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Speaker 3: alongside of you. You were just in this segment talking

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Speaker 3: about the favoritism that Duke apparently gets yes. Apparently there's

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Speaker 3: with Senegal as this thing was playing out, that they

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Speaker 1: They were waiting, they were Mike Graham waiting for the slight.

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Speaker 3: Then it came, they reacted accordingly, and so that's part

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Speaker 3: I would say, though that might be true. I don't,

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Speaker 3: I'm not I can't walk off.

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Speaker 2: You're right, you're asking for trouble walk And it sounds like,

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Speaker 2: according to this story, the team captain said we shouldn't go.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he knew the rule or.

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Speaker 2: I just said this doesn't make any sense, but he's

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Speaker 2: imploring them to stay on. Meanwhile, the coach is saying

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Speaker 2: get out of there. I guess in protest. But they

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Speaker 2: match wasn't over. So I'm not sure what that accomplishes

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Speaker 2: other that's the emotion, the frustration of the moment that

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be made for TV movie. I don't if

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a Netflix is there thirty for thirty?

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Speaker 2: But it is juicy because I don't know how often

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Speaker 2: this story before Merrillville, Indiana, I have to be at

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Speaker 2: this point, maybe eleven years old, and my little league

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Speaker 2: the semifinal game and we lose the game, game's over,

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Speaker 2: lot of little leagues then, and I'm assuming even more

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Speaker 2: so now, there were rules in place about the number

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I do remember our manager saying, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: They can't put him back out there. If they do

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Speaker 2: we got to protest it. They kept that pitcher out there,

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Speaker 2: and again on the final score we lost, but on

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Speaker 3: By the rules everybody had to live by, which was

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Speaker 3: we got it. We gotta save arms. We were worried

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Speaker 2: So I'm not saying it's exactly the same, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that the scope is exactly the same.

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Speaker 1: Well remember sixty years later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it come to think of it, is we

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Speaker 2: whatever the case. And then we advanced the championship game,

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Speaker 2: and then we won it with me pitching me on

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Speaker 1: That was the game. Where's the banner?

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Speaker 2: I wish I had a banner on that one that

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Speaker 2: I think we beat Bucco Construction pretty sure, though. I

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Speaker 2: we beat Bucco Construction.

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Speaker 3: Two teams that did not like each other. Wheel Big

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Speaker 3: rivalry bucking Big Wheel tied it up. There's no question.

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Speaker 3: You never wanted it.

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Speaker 1: There's no question.

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Speaker 3: I found out in my state tournament research that one

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Speaker 3: they were undefeated for the whole season, but one of

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Speaker 3: forfeit because they played a kid. You could only play

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Speaker 3: three halves of like your JB and varsity. No games

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Speaker 3: forfeit a game, not the title game, but they had

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Speaker 3: to forfeit, forfeit a game.

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Speaker 1: Why can't people just follow the rules? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so, was I kidding myself celebrating being the

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Speaker 2: the the winning pitcher in the championship game? I would

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Speaker 2: say no, because that rule there's no interpretation Like in

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Speaker 2: this soccer situation, there is I guess interpretation about what

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Speaker 2: But whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 3: But in that case, it was about well, it's an

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Speaker 1: You got it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's I know, I'm I know that

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Speaker 1: But that's okay.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how like much how much more closely we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're signing him.

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Speaker 3: And you do wonder though, what JJ McCarthy's thinking about, Like,

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Speaker 1: I say he responded to that tweet among the people,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's how Johnny Athletics saw it, which is

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Speaker 2: Well, Ben Leber has him quarter at QB one right now?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what his power rankings were, but I

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Speaker 2: That's a callback to me getting admonished by the ball

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Speaker 3: I went, Are you talking about it? I don't know

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Speaker 2: The Little League ethical dilemma reminds me of the US

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Speaker 2: if you bring it to the attention. There is no

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Speaker 1: You win anyway.

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Speaker 2: the game, and then I'd rather if I had a choice,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather win it that way. But the fact is,

441
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Speaker 2: once the pitcher's out there, it's it's over.

442
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Speaker 1: We have the victory.

443
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Speaker 3: I wonder how often it even happens now, though, because

444
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: not only does every coach know exactly what's going on,

445
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: usually every pulch knows as well, and they're all watching innings,

446
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 3: and so then it is do you do you call

447
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Speaker 3: it out right away?

448
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: Depends on what the rules are. It's madness.

449
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: Is that memory trip through your mind while you're getting

450
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: taped to a goalpost? That's another moment from a more

451
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: recent event. Kings, it's been a great life. Yeah, to

452
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: your point. In twenty twenty six, there would be a

453
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Speaker 2: dozen parents in the stands yelling at the umpire because

454
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: the other team, yes, was breaking the inners innings per

455
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: pitcher rule.

456
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, because I mean I even think about my little coaching,

457
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: you know, the fifth graders. Yeah, sure, and it's there's

458
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: really no rule. There's really no The idea is every

459
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: kid should play about half the game because it's fifth

460
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: grade traveling correct right, and you try to do that

461
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Speaker 3: as much as you can. And then there's you know,

462
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Speaker 3: sixty forty. I think most associations have. But it is funny.

463
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Speaker 3: It is funny when you go back to the Peanut gallery,

464
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Speaker 3: maybe you lost or maybe it was a close game,

465
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Speaker 3: and you hear the parents going, well, they never took

466
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Speaker 3: their good kid out. I don't know why we do. Yeah, yeah,

467
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: they never took their kid out. Like you know, that

468
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 3: kid played, like played two thirds of the game. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 3: he never left the floor. It's like, we'll be fine, guys, relax.

470
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Speaker 2: Somebody wanted to know whether the picture in question in

471
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Speaker 2: that literal league game for the other team was Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 1: So no, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't even think I'm too

474
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Speaker 3: old for that. I think although I don't know. Oh,

475
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 3: some of the Jacksons may have been on. Yeah, I

476
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: was going to say, maybe one of the other Jackson's

477
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Speaker 3: off to double check Michael Jackson's when he.

478
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Speaker 1: Was born, right, that would be the key to it.

479
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: All right, We hope some inbox items coming up. We

480
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 2: also have Russo at the top of the hour to

481
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: talk hockey. Your wild club back in action against the

482
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 2: Blackhawks tonight. We've got some timberwol stuff to discuss. They

483
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: took care of business again last night in very authoritative,

484
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: professional fashion against a team that had no interest in winning.

485
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, you still have to go out and find

486
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Speaker 2: a way to win the game, which we did. And

487
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: I will say again that with every minute that goes

488
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: by that I watch, I would assume a play. I

489
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: enjoy watching him more and more. I don't know that

490
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: I recall a player of recent Wolves vintage who is

491
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 2: less about anything dramatic, any histrionics, anything but making plays

492
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: the last twenty five years. I'm not saying he's their

493
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: best player in that, but I mean there's no there's

494
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: nothing there just he just goes and plays.

495
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Speaker 3: Does he not even go to Illinois? He was part

496
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Speaker 3: of a top seed. I think that's that's true. He's

497
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 3: about winning. I think they won the Big Ten tournament.

498
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: Man been his senior year.

499
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: All right, let me get you a couple of the

500
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: Big Dance score updates and then we prepare for the inbox.

501
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: I've got a halftime score guards e of Michigan State

502
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Speaker 2: forty five NDSU twenty five. That is a three versus

503
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Speaker 2: a fourteen Arkansas, a four seed leads Hawaii fifty four

504
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: to thirty nine at the half.

505
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Speaker 1: As well.

506
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: Finals in the book, TCU holds off Ohio State sixty

507
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 3: six to sixty four. Nebraska destroys Troy seventy six, forty seven.

508
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: Six seed Louisville.

509
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: Knocks off USF eighty three seventy nine. The Badgers are

510
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: out as a five seed, knocked out in round one

511
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: by high point eighty three to eighty two.

512
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: Oh Ryan, classy and gracious in defeat that never gets old.

513
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: Still on the best.

514
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: It is Vanderbilt five seeds, seventy eight, McNee State sixty eight.

515
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: What do we have coming up?

516
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: Looks like the next game I see on my list

517
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 3: is VCU North Carolina. Then we got Howard Michigan, Then

518
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: we got Texas BYU.

519
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: We've got who's SMC.

520
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 3: I don't know who that is, Saint Mary's, probably Mary's

521
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 3: that's right out west, and then we've got you mentioned it.

522
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Speaker 3: This is a I think at eight twenty five, a

523
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 3: later game if I have unless these times are eastern.

524
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: Later tonight, it's Illinois, a three seed taking on Penn

525
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: So and that game interests me for all the obvious

526
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: reasons because it's a former Big ten coach, Frans red

527
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: face yep at his alma mater, done a nice job

528
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: in his in his first year.

529
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Speaker 1: So we'll keep an eye on those games.

530
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Speaker 2: If there's any more live listenings we can do, we'll

531
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Speaker 2: pass them along to you. I did not mention, Duke.

532
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: They did come from behind, being down eleven at the half,

533
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: came back and did nip Sienna, So that would of

534
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: course been would have easily been the story of the day.

535
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: And Sienna hung. They just couldn't score and Duke's prowess

536
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: on the offensive boards ultimately killed Sienna. That in the

537
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: fact that they never used a bench player. All four

538
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: starter or fire starters went forty minutes. Macna Mary might

539
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: have played four starters if you let him, he might have.

540
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: That's true. My team's on the floor. Maybe he didn't

541
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: want to play the fifth guy at all. My team

542
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: is on That still doesn't make any sense to me.

543
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: I get it, you're up against it, and there's probably.

544
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: No no, it doesn't It doesn't make any sense, like

545
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: you got to give it, even if it's the first

546
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: half two minutes to two of your players.

547
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Now again you say, I don't know.

548
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the most supremely well conditioned team in the

549
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: history of basketball.

550
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. And long TV timeouts in the tournament.

551
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: So actually, I'm sure they sure they thought about I'm

552
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: sure they talked about it as a staff, But that

553
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: one kind of cracks me up.

554
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: You're ready to roll, Let's do it. It's time for doctor.

555
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: Lets you get your letters every Thursday right around four thirty.

556
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: JG at kfan dot com a lot of good entrants.

557
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do my best to try to get to

558
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Speaker 3: as many as possible. Today, Dear doctor Dan, I'm starting

559
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: to really feel like I'm fitting in. My teammate b

560
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: Hyland seems to enjoy running with me. Wolves Twitter has

561
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: dubbed us the Flash Brothers. See Finch is allowing me

562
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: to take my middies as long as I keep making them,

563
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: and our Gobert sure appreciates my passes even though he

564
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: can't always corral them. My only concern, Doctor Dan, is

565
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: that after a Edwards returns, indeed, Vincenzo might be mad

566
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: at me for taking his starting spot. This from a

567
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: The Soon Move.

568
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: Interesting.

569
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Speaker 2: Uh, well, we think A Edwards is going to be

570
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: out one into two weeks, right, We always assume he's

571
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: a fast healer, so maybe it'll only be a week,

572
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: although the report was that he would be reevaluated at

573
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: that point.

574
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: You like, I think, for a team that's had a

575
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: lot of the same pieces right for a while, what

576
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: do you look for? You look for maybe some identity

577
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: changes even within the group, where you feel, okay, here's

578
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: a wrinkle that we have or an ability perhaps haven't

579
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: shown before. Maybe a little different look for the other

580
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: team to have to pay attention to because we kind

581
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: of play one way all the time, and in this case,

582
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: it's the Flash Brothers just getting out on the break

583
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 3: and getting down court fast, right and making things happen

584
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: that way. There's some energy to that that I think

585
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: is refreshing for a team that needs sometimes that refreshment.

586
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: And whether it can be it can translate into the

587
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: post and remains to be seen, right because you've gotta

588
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: remember this is still the regular season.

589
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: Everything tightens up in the postseason. But I do think

590
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: it's giving this club a little bit different look. Desumo

591
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: is a different kind of player than we have had.

592
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: And again, what are teams like the Wolves guarding against

593
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: getting stale just because it's the same pieces and we

594
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: tend to do things the same way over and over

595
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: and over. So we're seeing again a little bit faster

596
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: pace when the Flash Brothers are in and.

597
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: I would like to see it continue.

598
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: And in the case of Desumo, I'm on record, doctor

599
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: dan Is that even before the injury to A Edwards,

600
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: I would like to see that change made to the

601
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: starting lineup. Notwithstanding that, it's clear it matters to our

602
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: to to uh D.

603
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: And maybe even.

604
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: Has contributed to him having a better season this year

605
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: than last year. I think I think at this point

606
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: Seefinch has to consider of pretty much everything.

607
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: Rockets have lost two in a row. The Nuggets have

608
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: lost five of their last ten. Their five and five

609
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: basically been excuse me, the Nuggets have basically been.

610
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: A five hundred team for about a mile.

611
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: Yes, overall, even since they got their their MVP back.

612
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: My point in bringing all that up the Wolves, despite

613
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: all the stuff we've been winding about, Yeah, wake up

614
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: this morning in the four spot, think about it. But

615
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: it also that I think proves the point further. Just

616
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: stop messing around. You shouldn't have been messing around. You

617
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: know who's not messing around right now. And I hate

618
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: to say, and I don't believe they're a contender, but

619
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: the Lakers. Lakers are seeing the opportunity well, and they're

620
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: saying we're going and Lucas playing good, and Reeves and

621
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: Lebron played great last night against Houston. It's like they're

622
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: they're seizing the opportunity to just grab the three seat.

623
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Speaker 2: Close circuit to Timberwolves media relations. If part of your

624
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: job is to, when possible locate and accumulate bulletin board

625
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: material to that and there is a story for some

626
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: reason at nhypost dot com. I don't know who the

627
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: writer is suggesting that the best first round matchup in

628
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: an ideal world, the LA Lakers would be the Timberwolves.

629
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: And they acknowledge in the piece that seemed preposterous and

630
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: the basis.

631
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Speaker 1: Of the way it went a year ago, they said ago.

632
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 3: But the the I guess you could say the conclusion

633
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: drawn in this piece is the Lakers are different.

634
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: They're playing better defensively.

635
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: They've got a new big man in the middle that

636
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: has changed the way everybody else, at least defensively plays

637
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: off of him.

638
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree.

639
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: I don't, but I think it was kind of interesting,

640
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: and it is true. The Lakers are playing well. They

641
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: are playing well, and they do look like they might

642
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: even have a little bit of a plan defensively that

643
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: they didn't have a year ago.

644
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: They were terrible defensively.

645
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: Right, and Luca was fat. Then he's skinny Luca right

646
00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: now and he's playing great. Yes, he's playing great. Deanre

647
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: Eyton is D eight.

648
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: You know that's been added to the Lakers roster.

649
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 3: Dear Doctor Dann with Murray Wentz and Brozmer on the roster.

650
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: Do you have any openings at iHeartRadio for a full

651
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: time football analyst. I'm pretty sure my best chance of

652
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: playing meaningful ball this year is using Kyler's gaming system

653
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: to play Madden twenty six. Or maybe I have a

654
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: better chance of making the Twins pitching staff. Any advice

655
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: this from Jay McCarthy, ooh man, Just like that doesn't

656
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: take much for people to turn.

657
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Speaker 2: He mentioned it earlier, it would be I think we're

658
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: all curious to see how j McCarthy is processing everything

659
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: that's taking place around him, because it's dramatic the change

660
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: in thinking and sensibility at the quarterback position. Now, I

661
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: will argue that it was the player himself who necessitated this,

662
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: who kind of forced the Viking's hand, left them with

663
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: no choice to where they can worry about hurt feelings

664
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: at this point.

665
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: And look, we've said it a hundred times. Players always

666
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: have the last word.

667
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: And so in a perfect world, McCarthy doesn't pout, he

668
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: doesn't fret, he doesn't feel sorry for himself. He says,

669
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: all right, what are the ten things I got to

670
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: do to give myself a chance to maybe shock the

671
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: world in training camp? Or even if I don't do

672
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: that play well enough that if the news starter gets hurt,

673
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: which is very possible, that I can walk in and

674
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: take the job and never give it back for the

675
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: next ten years.

676
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: That's sort of how he has to think. Now, how

677
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: does he really think? I don't know, is he capable

678
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: of that? I'm not as sure as I felt I

679
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: was when we drafted him. But that's sort of the

680
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: position right now. He happens to be in and just as.

681
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Speaker 1: The face it and sindbox, oh good letters, he gets hurt. Letter,

682
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: Dear doctor Dan, this is rich.

683
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: All the guys on the sports station are going to

684
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: complain about inaccurate predictions?

685
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: Is that so?

686
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: Tell me this sportsman. If predictions are so easy, then

687
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: why did the Vikings just pick up a former number

688
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: one overall pick who got unceremoniously let go by his

689
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: last five teams just to replace their flailing number ten

690
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: overall pick after two wasted years, all while their fans

691
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: yawn when they sign a number two overall pick who

692
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: now also appears washed up. Maybe you sports guys should

693
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: take a seat let us scientists do our work. This

694
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: apparently the nonamy name got to him. Pee Douglas, Pee

695
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: Douglas well, I would say, we've heard this one before,

696
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: and we're prepared for it. Here's the comeback that I

697
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: think is accurate and effective.

698
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: Speaking of accuracy, we don't really pretend if there's anything

699
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: scientific about the predictions we may correct. We don't look

700
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: at radar, we don't look at so andar, we don't

701
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: look at you know, doppler, all of the tools of

702
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: doppler that the average show weather terrorists does. We just say,

703
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: we talk to people, we read some things. Here's our

704
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 2: best conclusion, off and wrong.

705
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: That's very true.

706
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: The problem for the terrorists is they tell us about

707
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: the equipment they have, the science that they have being

708
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: more accurate than ever. And even if it is in

709
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: the end the Great Nicholas Cage in a an underrated

710
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 2: but weird motion Fisher called the weather man said it

711
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: it's just wind. It blows all over the place. I

712
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: can't predict it. That's the problem. It's if you think

713
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: you're saying, oh, no, this is we've got this is

714
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: all of our stuff is rooted in science. Well it's

715
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: I guess it's directly related to science. But there's so

716
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: many variables that you guys don't like to talk about.

717
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: Because that's not a fun weather cast, right if you're

718
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: bringing up, well, here's where I think we're going.

719
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 3: But there's these three things that could happen to change

720
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 3: those sorts of things.

721
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: Not to mention the doom and gloom language that goes

722
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: beyond any level of sports terrorism that Doctor Dan has

723
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: ever been capable of.

724
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: He's dying for doctor good letters.

725
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: Dear doctor Dan, the level of heidism in this town

726
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: is unacceptable, and I will not stand for it anymore.

727
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: Make all the hype jokes.

728
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: You like, but there have been plenty of vertically challenged

729
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: quarterbacks over the years. De Flutie played professionally for twenty years. R.

730
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: Wilson won a Super Bowl. D Breeze J thisman, M

731
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 3: Vic and your precious F. Tarkenton. Where are we America?

732
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: We're all just barely six feet tall. Besides, even if

733
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: I might not be the tallest guy out there, I

734
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 3: still tower above Jay McCarthy's ceiling. O. K. Murray, that's

735
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: good luck, Kay Murray. This isn't complicated this. There's no

736
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: consp here Man, There really is not. Although doctor Man does.

737
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: Note that we all are frauds when it comes to heightism. Example,

738
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: many are trying to sort of discourage the height jokes,

739
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 2: as it pertains to k Murray, saying they're cheap, they're

740
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: uncalled for, and it's just not a good signal to

741
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: send out. And yet, who's the name of the little

742
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: guy who used to before time, before Holman came in,

743
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: was running the heno, Geebevino.

744
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not very tall.

745
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: There it is, And you'll hear it all the time

746
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: from people wanting to disparage Geebevino in that context. They

747
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: love mocking his height as if it's part of the negativity.

748
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: And it's okay. I'm okay with that if you're consistent

749
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: with it.

750
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: But you can't be the person who hammers him on

751
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: the basis of height and then turn around and say,

752
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: let's not do this these silly, lazy narratives. As it

753
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: pertains to to Kay Murray, it's not a good look

754
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: to make fun of people's height. I would agree, but

755
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: doctor Dan believes in consistency, and I don't think there

756
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: is a lot to it. And I ll add again,

757
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: if a quarterback is good enough, his height doesn't come up.

758
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: Kay Murray hasn't been good enough for whatever reason. I know.

759
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: None of it's his fault.

760
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: I was already. I've been told this several times. None

761
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: of it because he is. He bears no responsibility for

762
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: what has taken place in his seven years in the NFL.

763
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: But it's real simple. If his team won.

764
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: More games in playoff games and he had better ratings

765
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: than he's largely had through much of his career, then

766
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: the emailer is exactly right, Kay Murray, none of that

767
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: comes up.

768
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Speaker 1: You didn't hear it come.

769
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: Up with Debreez, did you. You didn't hear it come

770
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: up out Washington? Very little now once he got going,

771
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: once he got.

772
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Speaker 2: Done, so it all gets taken care of if you're

773
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: good at enough and play well enough. In the case

774
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: of Kai Kay Murray, he might be on the verge

775
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: in this second iteration, but he.

776
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: Has not yet to this point. It's time I got

777
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: a credit to roof Rouge. Just brought it today.

778
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: I mean, we've got we're just overflowing good walkoffs coming

779
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: out excellent good, I mean just really good.

780
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: Big dance John.

781
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: I'm saying that because I apologize everybody's homeworking man or

782
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: home watching the games. Yeah, dear doctor Dan, sure I

783
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: might drop a passer two or three or four or five,

784
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: And maybe I'm not the most life coworker, But how

785
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: do you say don't shoot the messenger in French?

786
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: Doctor Dan?

787
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: I should probably know last two games sixty seven combined

788
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: us this five players in double figures and most important,

789
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: two dubs. Maybe my words didn't fall on deaf ears

790
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: are Go bear?

791
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: Did you see?

792
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: I was in and out of the game yesterday, but

793
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: I thought I read a tweet from c Heine, concerned

794
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: that there was gonna be one of those viral video

795
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: moments in which r Go Beart blew a layup Yes,

796
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: and two of the teammates on the bench almost seemed

797
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: to lose their minds as.

798
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: Mc daniels through a towel yeah and read basically buried

799
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: his head in his hands. I don't like it. I

800
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: don't either. I don't like it.

801
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 3: I don't either, And I know I don't like accused

802
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: of being r Gobert apologists. He's on your team, and

803
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: there's what not only is he on the And by

804
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: the way, just because he's on your team doesn't mean

805
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: he's above criticism.

806
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: There are times where he is his own worst enemy.

807
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: There's times where he's not doing the things he can

808
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: do well often enough, which he's acknowledged, but it's not

809
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: for me just that he's on the team, although that's factual.

810
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, And so if you want to get

811
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: him off the team, you're gonna have to wait till

812
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: the season's over. You if you know he's gonna start,

813
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: and you know he's gonna play, so then you're back.

814
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: To you have to get the best out of him.

815
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: So what we're learning about ar Gobert is that he's

816
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: not only a whipping boy around the league in a

817
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: very I guess, secretive, almost occasionally silent sense that is

818
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: still I guess you could still pick up on.

819
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: He's even a whipping boy among his own teammates. It's amazing. Yeah,

820
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't like it. It's T and T crew. They're

821
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: not on TT anymore. But that's not all. Always think

822
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: of them that way.

823
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: And now we have it happening here and again, watch

824
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: what happens when he's off the court defensively, Just watch,

825
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: just watch. I mean, eventually you're gonna want to deal them, right,

826
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: Eventually they're going to have to move on with the

827
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: rest of their lives. And yes, he does cause difficulties offensively,

828
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: that's undeniable.

829
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: But we'll say it again. We've said it before.

830
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 2: He is who he is at this point, and defensively,

831
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: the numbers do not lie about just how effective he

832
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: is to this operation.

833
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: Due a couple of walkoffs here, by the way, we've

834
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: gotten about five, so I want to acknowledge them.

835
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Five see Latner.

836
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: Talking about today's duke game, and they all had the

837
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Speaker 3: loser loser loser derivative. So we appreciate everybody that wrote

838
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Speaker 3: as see Latner. Dear doctor Dane, You're literally ethical conundrum

839
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: reminds me of the time when I knew ahead of

840
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: time that an opposing player was swinging a bat with

841
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: too much pine tar. Wisely, I held off mentioning until

842
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: this player Gee Brett, hit a dog that was later

843
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 3: disallowed after I enlightened the umpires as to the illegal bat.

844
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 3: That from b Martin, well done, that's very well played.

845
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: I love that Albe's outstanding. That's a great historical reference too.

846
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: People can google it if they don't know. Yeah, you

847
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: can learn something. That's the beauty of the inbox is

848
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: often you can learn something with the help of the Google.

849
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: Dear Doctor Dane, I just found out today that you

850
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: can shoot inside the three point line. This one came

851
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: in much earlier. I'm a deadly three point shooter. I

852
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: haven't dabbled much inside the arc. Should I try to

853
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: make one today? Maybe when my team is down one

854
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: with under a minute left. This from c Johnston High

855
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: Point Basketball, who was one for five from two all

856
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: year and his one two point shot was today today.

857
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: His only two point basket make or may yeah two

858
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 3: point basket make was today to put his team ahead

859
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 3: for good as a twelve seed to knock off fifth

860
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: seed Wisconsin, much to the devastation of the producer of

861
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: this program.

862
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: Yeah along was lining I haven't recovered. I know you're

863
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: still down.

864
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 3: Jay Guard did make an appearance in the Inbox ranking

865
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: today with yeah the usuals, marriage kids, uh State championships,

866
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: calling the state tournament like where it ranked in my life.

867
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: I'm still thinking about it, still thinking about where I'm

868
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 3: gonna rank today. You know, Wisconsin pretty high. Four games

869
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 3: in the five to twelve matchup when they were the

870
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 3: five A right, that's a lot. Wow, It's it's not good.

871
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: There was one more I wanted to get in. Oh

872
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: Ryan be brought back. Dear doctor Dan have you ever

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