1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Here we go our number three since he three sixty 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Austin, we've got 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: to talk some Nku Norse. We've got to talk some 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Xavier Musketeers. And it dawned on us earlier as we 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: were preparing for the show. Do we have someone that 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 2: can kind of navigate both of those for us? 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: Right? 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: And we threw a bunch of names at the wall, 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: five or six names, and then finally it came to us, 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: Rick Brooring. 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 4: Twelve or thirteen of them. 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. Rick Boring can do both. Yeah, and he's nice 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: enough to join us right now. 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 5: Hello, Rick, This disrespect is insane. 17 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 6: Rick. 18 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: I finished the last hour and I mentioned a few 19 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: things about the Bearcats because I assumed you didn't want 20 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: to comment or didn't want to dive into that, and 21 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: Austin said, well why not? So I'll ask you, is 22 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: there anything you you have? Is there anything you wanted 23 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: to say about the current state of the Bearcats. 24 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 5: Boba Miller can really rebound some. 25 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: Call me rebound machine. 26 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 4: That's why we have him on machine. 27 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 7: Yep, yep, he can really rebound. 28 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: Dynamic, dynamic rebounder. Let's start in Northern Kentucky NK. You 29 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: normally we get to this point of the season and 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: and Darren Horn's teams are kind of rounding into form 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: and they're getting themselves, uh, kind of lined up for 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 2: the Horizon Tournament and an opportunity to make another NCAA tournament. 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 2: We've not seen the normal right now from NKU. They've 34 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: lost four games in a row now coming off a 35 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: loss to Oakland. What has been the issue right now 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: with this Norse team. 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 5: Well, there's been different things at different times. You know, 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,639 Speaker 5: we talked a lot about defense going back. 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 7: The last few weeks. 40 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 5: This weekend, I thought the defense was better, especially at Oakland. Uh, 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 5: but then they couldn't make a shot and they. 42 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 7: Were banged up. 43 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 5: And now I think the big question is as they 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 5: head down the stretch, and they do need to get 45 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 5: on a roll and win some games late like they 46 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 5: have pretty much every season of Darren Horn's tenure since 47 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 5: he's been here. I mean, in the month of February, 48 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 5: NKU is winning over seventy two percent of its games 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 5: under Darren Horne. They usually go like six and two 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: during this month, so this is usually the month when 51 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 5: the Norse get it together. But the big question right 52 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 5: now is how are they going. 53 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 7: To be from a health perspective. 54 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 5: I mean, you've got Cale Robinson dealing with an ankle 55 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 5: injury after the Oakland game. 56 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 7: You've got l J. 57 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 5: Wells who didn't play in the Oakland game because of 58 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 5: the tailboon injured suffered at Detroit. You've got Ethan Elliott 59 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: out because he got injured in the Right State game. 60 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 5: We'll see what his status is going into Wednesday, if 61 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: he's still in concussion protocol or not. And then Donovan 62 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: Rocko Tananahari, one of the best rebounders and defenders, has 63 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 5: also been out with a lower body injury. So they're 64 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 5: just kind of struggling from a health perspective right now. 65 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 5: And as you guys know, it's hard to win games, 66 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 5: especially tough conference games, when you've got four of your 67 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 5: top seven guys out. 68 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: You go through this stretch up and the talk now 69 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: comes to the conference tournament because they're likely not in 70 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: a position they're going to win the regular season Horizon 71 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: League title, but you do coming down the stretch play 72 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: at least four teams against against the Norse that are 73 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: below them in the standings right now. So what will 74 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: it be between now in the end of the regular 75 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: season that Darren Horne, other than getting healthy, what can 76 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: they work on the most to have this team ready 77 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: to go come conference tournament. 78 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a good question. I think that 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 5: the defensive thing, it's like they've been top three in 80 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 5: terms of defensive efficiency in the conference the whole year, 81 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 5: so it's not like they've been terrible defensively, but there 82 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 5: have been moments. For instance, late in the Detroit game, 83 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: Darren Horn talked about it with us after the game 84 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 5: on the postgame show that you know, we talked about 85 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 5: in our huddles, quit foul, Like we're okay, we're making 86 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 5: a comeback, we've got the momentum, but we keep committing 87 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 5: silly fouls and they're leading to and one opportunities and 88 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: we can't overcome that if we keep sending them to 89 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 5: the free throw line, make them score over us, but 90 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 5: if they beat us, let. 91 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 7: Them have a layup. 92 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 5: And like from that point on, there were like four 93 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 5: more and ones after that committed by the Norse. One 94 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 5: where they filed a three point shooter. Two different players 95 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 5: for them fouled the same three point shooter. Things like 96 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: that is where I think you really hope you can 97 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 5: improve this time of year. You've been together now since 98 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: June July. It's different than it used to be. I mean, 99 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: you don't have guys building in your program, learning your 100 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 5: system for two, three, potentially even four years anymore. It 101 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 5: is a quicker process now. But you've been together long 102 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 5: enough at this point that you're either going to come 103 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 5: together or you're not. And I think it starts with 104 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 5: doing some of those small things and locking in on 105 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 5: game plan instructions from the coaches and the types of 106 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: things that you execute every day in practice, carrying that 107 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 5: out to the court in game, in game time, and 108 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 5: more specifically in crunch time when the game's on the line. 109 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 5: Because most of the games that they've lost have been 110 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 5: very close, games that have come down. 111 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 7: To the wire. 112 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: There's obviously different levels to injuries, and you get to 113 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: this point in college basket, well, there's a lot of 114 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: guys banged up. There's a lot of teams dealing with 115 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: injury and maybe giving some guys some rest. When you 116 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: look at the overall health of this Norse team. Are 117 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: there are injuries that you're expecting to get guys back 118 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: and make a run at this at the end, and 119 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: is it more significant where are they from just the 120 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 2: health point of view of getting guys back. 121 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the tough thing. It's hard to know. Ethan 122 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 5: Elliott is in concussion protocols. You imagined he'll be back 123 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: sooner than later. It's just a matter of kind of 124 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 5: getting him back into the mix and seeing how he 125 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 5: is after being out for almost two weeks now. LJ 126 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 5: Wells with the tailboon issue. I think you know they've 127 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 5: been trying to work him back into the mix, but 128 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: it's still unclear. 129 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 7: When he'll be available. 130 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 5: I hope that's a sooner than later situation as well. 131 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 5: The Cale Robinson injury is new. 132 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 7: I have no idea what to expect there. 133 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 5: I mean, you got to think if that's a high 134 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 5: ankle spring situation or something worse like that, it could 135 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 5: be a long term thing. But if it's just you know, 136 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 5: he had someone land on him or turned his ankle 137 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 5: a little bit in that Oakland game, and any's fine 138 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 5: because he did come back in and play in that game. 139 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 5: Then maybe, you know, maybe it won't won't be too severe. 140 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 5: So it still remains to be seen, but I think 141 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 5: at least a couple of those guys should be back 142 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 5: within the next week or so. 143 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: Tomorrow they take on Green Bay, and Doug Gottlieb figured 144 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: out that if you kind of give up the radio 145 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: side of things, he can actually win some games with 146 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: Green Bay. They're above five hundred in the horizon right now. 147 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: If you look back to that first go round with 148 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: Northern Kentucky, I thought it was unique because it wasn't 149 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: like NK you shot themselves in the foot. They only 150 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: turned it over three times. Green Bay shot the ball 151 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: extremely well, fifty eight percent from the field, fifty three 152 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: percent from three What do they need to do to 153 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: get back to the winning ways against this Green Bay 154 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: team who has much improved from last year. 155 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 5: Yeah. Green Bay is kind of a unique team in 156 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 5: the sense that they're almost robotic in the way they're 157 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 5: going to drive into the paint, come to a jump 158 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 5: stop off two feet and turn around, pivot and kick. 159 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 7: It back out to a three point shooter. 160 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 5: And you know, K, you worked on that continuously going 161 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 5: into that game. We're expecting that to happen and for 162 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 5: whatever reason, and they still got nailed by threes to 163 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 5: start that game. The first half, they were down by 164 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 5: fifteen points. They came storming all the way back and 165 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: had multiple shots in the final minutes to win the game, 166 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: just couldn't convert on any of those. So I think 167 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 5: it's a team that you feel like you owe, that 168 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 5: you feel like you can certainly solve the issues from 169 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 5: the previous game because you knew exactly what to expect 170 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 5: and for whatever reason that they were still able to 171 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 5: hurt you with that early in the game. You know, 172 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 5: they also had a guy who averages twelve points a 173 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 5: game go off for twenty seven in that and was 174 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: just playing some ISO ball late and hitting tough shots. 175 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 5: So hopefully Green Bay on the road will be a 176 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 5: little bit cooler. I know they've been struggling over the 177 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: last few weeks since NK you played them, So this 178 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: I mean, these are big games now down the stretch. 179 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 5: Like you mentioned, a lot of these teams are either 180 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 5: right near NKU or behind them in the standings right now. 181 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 5: And for ENKU, it's all about you wanted a top 182 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 5: three seed that's still in play potentially, but you also 183 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 5: now have to worry about securing a first round home 184 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 5: game in the Rising League tournament that goes to the 185 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 5: top five seeds, So make sure at the least you're 186 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 5: on the right side of that top five seed line. 187 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: Has there been any conversation around Trust Arena, around the 188 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: norse of you know, things are a spy are going 189 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: in the wrong direction, you're trying to end a losing streak. 190 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: Has there been any call to arms to get Austin 191 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: to actually come to a game at Truest Arena to 192 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: see if they can change things around at all? Is 193 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: that has that been kicked around? 194 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: Good question? 195 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 7: It's funny. 196 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: It's funny you say that, Tony. We were in a 197 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 5: meeting earlier this week. You know, we do a Barren 198 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 5: Horn Show, a TV show as a promotional tool for 199 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 5: the program. 200 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 7: They said what else could we do? 201 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: And you know, everyone sat there with a long dramatic 202 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: pause for a few seconds, and then I heard it 203 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 5: might have been the athletic director, maybe the president. I 204 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 5: can't remember who it was exactly that looked at us 205 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 5: and whispered and so we'll see. 206 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: That's it. 207 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 7: We'll see what happened. 208 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: They have my number. We will see I'm scheduled to 209 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: appear on campus on April in April twenty twenty first 210 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: or something, so I mean I can get there earlier 211 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: you probably, I probably will, sir, we need you to 212 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 4: come in, yeah, I mean they know where to find me. 213 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: The other side of this equation, Rick the Xavier Musketeers. 214 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: I'm I'm fascinated by this team because you look at 215 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: the core of it. They're four and seven in the 216 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: Big East, twelve and ten overall. But if you look 217 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: at the losses, and I know it's hard because in 218 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: a loss, you're you're you're still upset about the loss itself. 219 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: But I keep finding things about this team and the 220 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: trajectory that that gives some promise to what's going to 221 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: be coming on the horizon for Xavier and having Richard 222 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Patino at the helm, how do you how do you 223 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: view because there's been so many tough losses and then 224 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: there's a game like Saturday where you find a way 225 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: to get a comeback win against the Paul. But I 226 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: think in large part, there's just a lot of things 227 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: to like about a team that had so many questions 228 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: coming in and the way they play for Richard Patino 229 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: that does give you promise for the future. 230 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 5: Yes, I would agree with you there. I think you 231 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 5: see plenty that would suggest, hey, if you guys really 232 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: are playing hard for this coaching staff, this coaching staff 233 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 5: makes some makes more adjustments than I think any figure 234 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 5: coaching staff that we've seen in the last few decades. 235 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 7: I mean, going back to. 236 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: The first round with Sean Miller, the kind of the 237 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 5: team motto has been do what we do, meaning they 238 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: don't really adapt for anybody else. They've played their style 239 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 5: of basketball and try to make that work. But Richard 240 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 5: Patina has been a little bit different in the sense that, like, hey, 241 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 5: we don't have a good enough roster this year to 242 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 5: just straight up play the way we wanted to play 243 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 5: from the. 244 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 7: Start of the season. 245 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 5: So maybe we'll change who we're playing in a given 246 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 5: matchup and change up our personnel look a little bit. 247 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 5: Or maybe we'll change our defensive style, or we'll completely 248 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 5: change what we're doing offensively from the start of the 249 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 5: season and go with a small ball look and get 250 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 5: away from our original ball screen stuff. So I think 251 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: there's a lot to like about the way that they've 252 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 5: handled this team, the way that this team fights and 253 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 5: plays for them. At the same time, the thing I've 254 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 5: been saying is, no matter which side of this argument 255 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 5: you're on, whether you feel like this staff is doing 256 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 5: a good job or you feel like this staff has 257 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 5: not done a good job, you've got ammo for your argument. 258 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 5: And in this current climate, you know, whether you're talking, 259 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 5: it doesn't matter what. 260 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 7: You're talking about. 261 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: But specifically, sports people are only going to see their 262 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 5: view of things, and so you know, if you're on 263 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 5: the pessimistic side of things and you think they haven't 264 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 5: been doing a good job, then you're going to say, hey, 265 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 5: we got blown out at home by Santa Clara. We 266 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 5: had the two biggest losses in Cintas Center history at 267 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 5: home this year with the Creighton game in the Yukon game, 268 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 5: Like you know, we had a sixteen point lead at 269 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 5: home against Sint John's and we blew that in the 270 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 5: second half. So there's gonna be plenty of things that 271 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 5: people are going to point to and say this isn't good. 272 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 5: And by the way, they're going to have to completely 273 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 5: rebuild this roster for the most part in this transfer 274 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 5: portal again because you didn't have enough talent, and that's 275 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 5: just the way of the world. In twenty twenty six, 276 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 5: so it is hard to build momentum from year to year. 277 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 5: So again you have AMMO regardless of which side you're on. 278 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 5: I find myself more on the side of I'm pretty 279 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 5: impressed with what they're doing with an underman team. The 280 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 5: question is can they put together a team that's not 281 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 5: going to be undermanned next year? 282 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: It is that you're talking about an underman team, But 283 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: the impressive performances that was on display Saturday and eighteen 284 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: points second half deficit, they closed the game on a 285 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: seventeen to three run, they get the game winner. What 286 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: changed in the second half and at what point that 287 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: Xavier was able to start turning this around? Was Was 288 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: it a fundamental change? Was it game plan wise? Would 289 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: you just players stepping up? How did they get that 290 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: done on Saturday? 291 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 5: Well, DePaul does a really good job of taking away 292 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 5: three point shots, sticking to shooters and kind of making 293 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 5: you play one on one. It's similar to what Yukon's 294 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 5: going to do defensively, but Yukon's obviously really good at it, 295 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 5: and I think Zavier was just not nearly aggressive enough 296 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 5: early in the game. They were letting their offense get stagnated. 297 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 5: They weren't able to move the ball and get paint touches. 298 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 5: And in the second half it felt like certain guys 299 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 5: stepped up and took it upon themselves to be more aggressive, 300 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 5: force their way into the lane, make something happen on 301 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: the offensive end, and then the other thing that we 302 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: see this pretty often, and that's amazing that it can 303 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 5: continues to happen, but it is just a tough situation 304 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 5: to be in. To Paul, you know, is up by 305 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: I think it was like twelve points with a little 306 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 5: over five minutes to go still, and that's too long 307 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 5: to all of a sudden just start taking the foot 308 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 5: off the gas, slowing it down and running clock. But 309 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 5: that's what they're trying to do at the same time 310 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 5: that Xavier is pressing full court, ramping up their pressure, 311 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 5: and it's like, if you're not going to punish a 312 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 5: team for overextending themselves and pressing you full court trying 313 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 5: to force turnovers, then you're going to be in a 314 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 5: tough spot on the offensive end because it's really hard 315 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 5: to take care of the ball and then just pull 316 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: it out and slow it down and run your half 317 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 5: court offense after that without taking the layup that you 318 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 5: might be able to get in transition. That's what the 319 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 5: Paul tried to do, and it just kind of had 320 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 5: a snowball effect. The Musketeers came right back and then 321 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 5: obviously the big shots down the stretch. Was a kind 322 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 5: of a hilarious finish for a season that doesn't mean 323 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 5: a whole lot right now, it was it felt like 324 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: a high stakes game and a high stakes finish. 325 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: You tweeted this out. I believe last week you look 326 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: back to last year's Florida Atlantic University team and you 327 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: find Trey Carroll, matos volcatitis and exceptional rebounder for the Bearcats, 328 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: Boba Miller. How was that team not any better than 329 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: what they were? 330 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 5: Shouldn't have they won a national championship? 331 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: He asked, You would think, so, who else is a front. 332 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 5: Court like that? But these guys were incredible. I think 333 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: Trey Carroll and Boba Miller, you know, I don't know 334 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: if they have a feud or not, but I think 335 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 5: they probably deservedly would if right he SATs from each 336 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: other last year, if there wasn't enough balls to go 337 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 5: around or rebounds to go around to the both. 338 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: Of them, it's It's interesting because the first go around 339 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: with Yukon, for as good as he's been this year, 340 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: Trey Carroll was not that just nine points on three 341 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: of eleven shooting. Was that something that Yukon did in 342 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: that first game around or was it just a rare 343 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: off night for Trey Carroll. 344 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 7: No. 345 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 5: I think Yukon, with their size and athleticism, you know, 346 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 5: they're versatile. Defensively, they have those forwards like like an 347 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 5: Alex Caravan, for instance, who's going to be an NBA 348 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 5: forward who's bigger and strong enough to handled Trey Carroll 349 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 5: and some of his driving power myths, but also more 350 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 5: of a versatile wing player himself, similar to Trey And 351 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 5: I think Yukon just has enough guys like that, and 352 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 5: defensively they schemed to stop him. They were also able 353 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 5: to take away the three point looks of Xavier. Yoba 354 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 5: Malichovich never really got it going. I think he had 355 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 5: just two points in that game, or at least just 356 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 5: one field goal, So it was it was not a 357 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 5: good game for Xavier's front court, and we've seen when 358 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 5: Zager's at its best offensively, they've got to get those 359 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: two front court guys going. Typically and that's the struggle 360 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 5: they face against Yukon here tonight. 361 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: Seventeen and a half point underdog on the road tonight 362 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: in Hartford, Connecticut. Austin actually said that he likes the 363 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: Muskies to go upset Yukon tonight and get a win. Outright, 364 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: how would they do that? I got a feeling, Rick, 365 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: other than just a feeling, Rick, how would they actually 366 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: do that? 367 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: You know, we were driving home from Detroit after this 368 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 5: week and after the NKAU games, and we passed a 369 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 5: nice establishment called the House of Dank. It sounds like 370 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 5: Austin's been making a few. It's the House of the 371 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 5: Sank recently. 372 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: So how did they do it? 373 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 7: How theation joke I did shoot? Out of your mind? 374 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 5: Oka like, Look, look, I'll be honest. 375 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 7: I don't see a path to them beating you guy. 376 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 7: I think you con so much better than them. 377 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 5: This year and the first game, Xavier could not guard 378 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: anything that they were trying to do. They couldn't stay 379 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 5: with their shooters on the set plays they were running. 380 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 5: They were they were shooting threes with a defender not 381 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 5: within six feet of them. They had no chance to 382 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 5: stop Terris Reid inside. They weren't stopping dribble penetration like 383 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 5: Yukon just blitzed them from the start of that game 384 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 5: and they were never close. And that was at the 385 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 5: Cintas Center. It's going to take, you know, at a 386 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: natural disaster or Xavier just shooting out seventy three. 387 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 7: I think to pull this off. 388 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna still getting your thoughts more on UC games 389 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: going in a big twelve. 390 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: You better answer your phone tomorrow if they win, because 391 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: we're gonna be calling your ass. 392 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 7: Hey, I've been wrong before. 393 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 5: That's it won't be the first time. Shout out to 394 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 5: Boba Miller and his rebounding. 395 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: He'll have twenty two of them on Thursday night against 396 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: West Virginia. 397 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 7: What will be the spread of that game? 398 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: Uh, you see, will probably be a favorite. There'll be 399 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: a small favorite at home shorthanded. They'll come out and fight. 400 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: They'll they'll scratch and claw like they normally do. All right, 401 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: I like it, Bobba Miller rebounds. That's what we're gonna do. Rick, 402 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: You're the best man. Thank you. 403 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 4: Thanks for coming on, Rick Brooring. See you at the 404 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 4: House of Dank be you and Skinny. 405 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: I guarantee Skinny's been there before. 406 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: Probably there right now, Where. 407 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: Do you guys want to meet for dinner? How's the 408 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: dead sounds good? What I love is just the path. 409 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: You know, Rick laid it out for Xavier to win tonight. 410 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: Not many things have to happen. 411 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 4: He said, a natural disaster. Yep, you never know this 412 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: time of the year. So you're telling me there's a 413 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: chance inclement weather. Who knows what can happen? Uh, thank good, 414 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: Jim to shoot in. Thanks to Rick Brewing for joining us. Well, 415 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 4: we'll take some phone calls five one, three, seven, four nine, 416 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 4: fifteen thirty, and uh talk some Bengals as well. Next 417 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 4: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 418 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 6: Now here's your chest. 419 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: Too, Hey, welcome back. Since he three sixty It's on 420 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. I got a little 421 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: Bengals to get to in just a moment. Also, I 422 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: want to play a clip of Todd Mounkin at the 423 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: podium today that I'm getting a kick out of as 424 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 2: it relates to the Browns and Jim Schwartz. We'll get 425 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: to that in just a moment. Let's grab a quick 426 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 2: phone call in the meantime, Mike, what's going on? 427 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: Thanks guys bleave in wild show today. Boy. 428 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: Always off season shows are always just wild. 429 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for things like the Silly Asked Pro Ball 430 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: and these different things to give you some content, shall 431 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: we say. 432 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: Eohio Suarez in the Pro Bowl. That's what we go 433 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 2: on right now. 434 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you're going on. But you still need 435 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: another Phona Fike powerhead. So hopefully somebody will make up 436 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: the difference on that, whether it's Steer or Ellie or somebody, 437 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: but they're going to need another power back because I'm 438 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: looking at the teams that made the playoffs last year, 439 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: and other than Milwaukee, which was basically tied for the 440 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: revs with home runs per game, everybody else hit quite 441 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: a few more home runs that were in the playoffs, 442 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: and then especially in the divisional championships, so we got 443 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: to get more. 444 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: Home and and I think when you get to the playoffs, 445 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: everything is just magnified. And the teams that you're going against, 446 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: they all have those top end of the rotation guys 447 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: and they're locked in even more. And if you're not 448 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: a team that can run into some on the offensive 449 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: side of the ball, it may get tougher for you 450 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: to score runs in the postseason, and it feels like 451 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 2: Milwaukee was victim of that in their earlier exit last year, 452 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: of just not being able to score enough because you're 453 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: going against locked in top end pitchers now and the 454 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: Reds do have that, But can you add runs in 455 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: those situations, Yeah. 456 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: Milwaukee would have been in the West. 457 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 8: They may not even even made the playoffs. 458 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 459 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 8: It might have been tight, but yeah, their pitching's got 460 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 8: a hold up. Anyway. 461 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: I'm just bringing up old stuff here. 462 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 8: That's stupid. 463 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 3: But I wish you guys were out on radio row 464 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: out in the Bay Area, is what I wish, so 465 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: you could be enjoying the most beautiful city in America, 466 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: hands down San Francisco, hands down the most beautiful city 467 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: in America. And you guys deserve to be out there, 468 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: and I wish you were. 469 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't have I wouldn't have put up a 470 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: fight against it. That would have happily been there. 471 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 8: Oh. 472 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 3: I was listening to Patrick. They're just they're just loving it. 473 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: They're having a blast out there. And listened to the 474 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: guy in Tampa because there's just so much to do 475 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: and see and it's just so beautiful and there's so 476 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: many good restaurants, and it's it's just a blast, man. 477 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: But I was looking at some tape Tony on this Griffin, 478 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 3: this rookie shortstop for Pittsburgh. This guy is incredible. 479 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh has something. 480 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: His accolades, all his acco lades are well deserved. Man. 481 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: This guy can really play on both sides of them. 482 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: Yeah you offense, he's something else, Tony. 483 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: They already have the pitching. They have some young talent 484 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: on that team, and I thought they were very aggressive 485 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: and made some good moves to add some bats in 486 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: the offseason. I think Pittsburgh is one of the teams 487 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 2: and they're gonna have to prove it, but I think 488 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: they're one of the teams that maybe isn't getting talked 489 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: about enough for what they've done this offseason and kind 490 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: of what their ceiling could be. 491 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 3: You think you guys are going to do more Super 492 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: Bowl breakdown stuff as the week goot yeah later. 493 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, tomorrow, Thursday. For sure, we'll start getting in 494 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 2: a lot of the matchup stuff. 495 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 8: I figured you were, but I just wanted to make 496 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 8: sure and I will quick. 497 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: With stadiums, I've been to twenty two major league. 498 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 8: Stadiums in my life, I've been very lucky, and my 499 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 8: three favorite awful in San Francisco's is hands down the best. 500 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 8: Dodger Stadium course is my second favorite, but my third 501 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 8: favorite is tnc up in Pittsburgh. That is a great, great, 502 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 8: great ball park. 503 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It's constantly voted as one of the nicer 504 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: ballparks in in uh in Major League Baseball. I've not 505 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: been there before, but I know people that have gone 506 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: there that have very good things to say about it. 507 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what's really cool about it. And this 508 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: is so unusual. 509 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 8: I've never seen it anywhere. 510 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: In the men's bathroom, the urinals are on a wall 511 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: that faces the playing field, and the urinal is about 512 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: six feet The wall is about six feet high, so 513 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 3: you can actually sit there and take a tee and 514 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: watch the game as it goes by. 515 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: Nice. 516 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: I've never seen you talk about accommodating your fans. 517 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: That's it. You don't have to miss a moment. 518 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: Is that great? 519 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: Or what? 520 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: When you're doing the other thing you're in trouble, no chance, 521 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 3: it's just in there to take a wee wie. You're 522 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: in good check. That's all I got. 523 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a let's take our break here. 524 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: Owi wi he said, I uh, I want to get 525 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: to some of that. I want to get to this 526 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: Todd Monkin because obviously a lot's been made about the 527 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: relationship now with Jim Schwartz and what that means going 528 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: forward with the Browns, and a little bit of Munkin's 529 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: introductory press conference he kind of addresses the situation. We'll 530 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: let you hear that and talk a little Bengals when 531 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: we come back on the Home of the Bengals ESPN 532 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back. Since he three 533 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station show has flown 534 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: by today, it has, it really has. Did you watch 535 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: any of the Grammys Monday Night? 536 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 7: No? 537 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: I didn't. 538 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Sunday Night, the lea part that stuck with me. 539 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: Post Malone did an Ozzy Osbourne tribute. Unbelievable, Like Ozzie's 540 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: family was all there. They would kind of going over 541 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: who had passed away in the last year. He absolutely 542 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: crushed it. I don't know why that this song more 543 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 2: than a feeling. I don't know why that made me 544 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: think of that at the gramm East, But yeah, we 545 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: didn't ask. I didn't ask you yesterday. 546 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: If you watch anything, yeah, I heard that my girl, 547 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 4: Sabrina Carpenter put on a show. 548 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 549 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 4: I have to admit something. She is my biggest celebrity 550 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: crush maybe ever, really, Sabrina Carpenter. Okay, can't get enough 551 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 4: athlete slash celebrity. There was a all at the top. 552 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 4: Uh No, I'll keep the athlete one to myself. 553 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I might know. 554 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: You might have an idea, which is funny because it 555 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 4: couldn't be more opposite. But I saw a post, so apparently, 556 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 4: and I've heard this, like Albert Breer was talking about 557 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: this yesterday. I know we're gonna get to Todd Munkin 558 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: in just a second. Albert Breer was talking about because 559 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 4: of the way the draft and free agency works out, 560 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 4: there are going to be teams that pick up the 561 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 4: phone and call other teams about their quarterbacks with the 562 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: sense or in the idea of the worst they can 563 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 4: say is now. And the team that's been talked about 564 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 4: the most has been the Minnesota Vikings calling the Bengals 565 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 4: about Joe Burrow. And there was a report from an 566 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 4: account that said, quote, the Vikings are expected to do 567 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 4: everything they possibly can to acquire Joe Burrow. And I 568 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 4: saw a person with the at Burrow believer on Twitter 569 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 4: say I'm doing everything I possibly can to acquire Sabrina Carpenter. 570 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 4: So true. I felt that on a personal level and 571 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 4: as a Bengals fan, which the odds are about the same. 572 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 6: Yep. 573 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: I love that that's still out there. What a joke, 574 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: all right? There was a lot made Austin when Todd 575 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: Unkin was hired by the Cleveland Browns, because I think 576 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: there's a lot of folks that believe Jim Schwartz was 577 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: the front runner for that. And then there was the 578 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: moment where after Monkin was hired, Schwartz kind of erupted 579 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: at the facility, noted that he set his goodbyes to 580 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 2: the players and that was it. Well, obviously, Todd Munkin 581 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: had to bring that back today when he was speaking 582 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: to the media about this Cleveland Brown's job and about 583 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: that Cleveland Brown's defense. And here is a little over 584 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: a minute of what Munkin had to say. 585 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 9: My anticipation is we're not going to change the system. 586 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 9: Very difficult to go against not planning on changing the system. 587 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 9: We're built for the system. That they're in currently. And 588 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 9: I'm not going to get into staffing because that's not 589 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 9: at this time to get into that. But they can 590 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 9: be rest assured that we're going to keep the same system. 591 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 9: We're still going to let them attack, We're still going 592 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 9: to let them play free. I can't see any other way. 593 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 9: They're a big reason why I took this job, the 594 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 9: defensive players. I didn't take this job because of Jim Schwartz. 595 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 9: I have a lot of respect for Jim Schwartz, but 596 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 9: as I would hope he has for me. But I 597 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 9: took it because of the players that are here, the 598 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 9: ownership Andrew Berry, and the ability to build this roster 599 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 9: from the ground up on the offensive side. So and 600 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 9: I said this to the other guys. I didn't think 601 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 9: i'd say it. 602 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it. 603 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 9: When I was preparing for the Cleveland Browns, I wasn't 604 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 9: trying to chip Jim Schwartz. He was chipping Miles Garrett. 605 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 9: And when I was sliding a protection to the outside 606 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 9: backers or Grant Delta that were blitzing off the edge, 607 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 9: I was sliding the protection of the players. And when 608 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 9: I was worried about throwing to the right against Denzel 609 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 9: Ward or Tyson Campbell to the left. That's who I 610 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 9: was worried about throwing. 611 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: At mm So going down to panth again of saying 612 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: I talked about this as players, I wasn't going to 613 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 2: bring it up. I'm gonna bring it up now. I'm 614 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: on the edge of my seat. But to that point 615 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: of I didn't take the job for Jim Schwartz, which 616 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: again I'd push back a little bit because if you're 617 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: a head coach taking a job and you're an offensive guy, 618 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: that's probably the guy you wanted your dec coordinator. Yes, 619 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: so that could have been a part of the job. 620 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: But the idea of I wasn't chipping Jim Schwartz. I 621 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: was chipping Miles Garrett. I was sliding the protection of 622 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: the players. I get all that those concepts were put 623 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 2: in place by Jim Schwartz. I just think it's an 624 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: interesting time right now with the Cleveland Browns, and hearing 625 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: that from Jim Todd Munkin certainly doesn't think make me 626 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: think there's a bridge being built between the two. 627 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: I think that Todd Munkin got the assurance from Andrew 628 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 4: Berry and ownership that Jim Schwartz is going to be 629 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 4: our defensive coordinator and he's like, Okay, great, I'll take 630 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 4: the job. And then Jim Schwartz is like, no, screw that, 631 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 4: I'm out. And so now Monkin is like, okay, whatever. 632 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: You know, You're like, you're not the system. The players 633 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 4: are the system. Yeah, And I get the feeling Todd 634 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: Munkin is going to be the type of guy who's 635 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: gonna get himself into some hot water with the way 636 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: he talks. 637 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: Now, do you agree with what he's said though, that 638 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: the system is about the players, because there's a lot 639 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: of that that I deem to be true. But I mean, 640 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz is his record proceed Like, you know who 641 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz is. He's one of the names across the 642 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: nfl A defensive coordinators that you will talk about as 643 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: one of the greats. 644 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: So again, also has the best defensive player in the world. 645 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 2: Against Yes, absolutely, but he's also found ways to utilize 646 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: and get them into advantageous situations. 647 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: I think he's done a good job of using the 648 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: Jimmies and Joe's to execute the x'es and o's. And 649 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: if he went somewhere else, is it a different story. 650 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 4: Probably just because of the sheer amount of attention that 651 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 4: has to go to Miles Garrett. And for a while 652 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 4: they had really good lockdown corners as well, And that 653 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 4: obviously gives you a lot of freedom to be exotic 654 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 4: and play free and do all the stuff that has 655 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: made Jim Schwartz in the Browns defense so good for 656 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: so long. Sure, I do think though, to answer your question, 657 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: it is mostly the players. I'm more of a Jimmy's 658 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 4: and Joe's guy than an x'es and o's guy. You 659 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 4: got to have Jimmy's and Joe's that can actually do 660 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 4: the exes and o's. Sure, and I think the Browns 661 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 4: have had that, and I think they still have that. 662 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, though, I think I think Todd 663 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: Munkin is going to be an interesting I think he's 664 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: just an interesting case study, be a little. 665 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: Bit loose lipped, and that's going to get him into 666 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 4: some trouble. Yeah, and he'll he might have to learn 667 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 4: a few of those things the hard way. And maybe 668 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 4: this is an example. You always talk about winning the 669 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: press conference. 670 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: There's the there's the moment of I talked about with 671 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: this this with the guys, and I wasn't going to 672 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: bring it up, but I'll bring it up where it's like, Okay, 673 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: we got him, here we go. Yeah, and I don't 674 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: think there's anything wrong with what he said. I think 675 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: that's more. I think it's less about a shot at 676 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: Schwartz's to more about praise for the players they have 677 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: on that defense. Sure, but you know I didn't take 678 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: this job for Jim Schwartz. 679 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: Okay, true, yeah, true, okay, I mean okay, took the 680 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 4: job because Jim Schwartz wasn't off it. 681 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: Took the job because they've wanted me and not him. 682 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 4: Very quickly, before we get to Moegar, Pete Thammel posted 683 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: the upcoming college football playoff dates for the next two years. 684 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 4: Oh boy, so the college football playoff quarter finals next 685 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: year will take place Wednesday, December thirtieth is the Fiesta Bowl. 686 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: They are off Thursday. Say that again, so I can 687 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: just put that down for the Bearcats. Wednesday, December thirtieth 688 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 4: is the Fiesta Bowl. They're off Thursday, New Year's Eve. 689 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: I'm sure there'll be a big NFL thing Friday, January first. 690 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: New Year's Day will be the Cotton Bowl Classic and 691 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: the Chick fil a Peach Bowl in the Rose Bowl game, okay, 692 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: and then there will be a two week break oh yeah, 693 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 4: between the quarterfinals and the semi finals. January fourteenth will 694 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 4: be the Orange Bowl, January fifteenth will be the Sugar Bowl, 695 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 4: and then another week plus before the National Championship Game. Okay, 696 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 4: So late January National Championship Game. Disgusting, and I believe 697 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: it gets even worse than twenty seven and twenty just disgusting. 698 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: We'll take a break. When we come back, egg Man 699 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: Moeger will join us for quick hits and prepare you 700 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: for the Moeger Show, which comes up next to here 701 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 702 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: Sports Station. 703 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: What's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes Since the three. 704 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: Sixteenth, Yes we're back. Was looking for Mo. Moe's in 705 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: the building, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 706 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 6: Mo was here. 707 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 4: You were here for the big meeting earlier. I was 708 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: big stuff going on around here, lots lots of stuff happening. 709 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 4: Lunch provided of course. This now what's up right to 710 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 4: your show? The Moegar Show. Wow, So you've had ample 711 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 4: time to really get the show ready. 712 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: For today. 713 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 4: Ample, what do you have coming up? Paul Danner Junior 714 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 4: in the first hour of the show. 715 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: I really try on Tuesdays to figure out if I 716 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: can get you fired up about something before Paul comes in. 717 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: I just don't know what it is today. If there's 718 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: anything that really is kind of on your mind or 719 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: you wanted to get out there, let it out now, 720 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: really kind of welcome. 721 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: Palling here because you wanted to sort of Yep, you 722 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 4: think you're just kind of warm it up for him. 723 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: Best bridge is the gap between the Ohio and IL 724 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: discussion for high school athletes that don anything for me. 725 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 6: Want everybody to get paid high school or not. 726 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm cool. 727 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 10: I'm good with it. I don't have a problem with it. 728 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 10: I like things that make like crotch of the old 729 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 10: dudes unhappy. 730 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 4: So I'm here for it. I'm here for it. I 731 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 4: don't know that there's anything. I haven't gone to the 732 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 4: mall today, so nobody has tried to sell me a 733 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: bible or whatever. 734 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nicks haven't done anything yet for the trade deadline. 735 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 6: No, and I'm almost okay with that. 736 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 10: Okay, No, that's not to say that I won't take 737 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 10: you honest but I don't think they're going to get 738 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 10: him anyway. I don't think they can. I don't think 739 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 10: they have enough to get them. Now that changes this offseason, Ummmm, No, 740 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 10: they've been I mean there's you know, the general malaise 741 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 10: that is my two favorite college basketball teams. 742 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not going great. Yeah, we haven't We've We've 743 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: talked about the Bearcats. We haven't really mentioned what the 744 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: Flyers are going for. Flyers have lost for in a row. 745 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: The Norse have lost four in a row. Yeah, tough 746 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: time to be a Basically, if you're on this station, 747 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: not great. Your alma mater is not doing well. 748 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, Tarren Bland's bowling Green Falcon's not having a great year. 749 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 2: No is Austin still claiming NKU? We had Rick Broyn 750 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: on today and both of my team. Has there been 751 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: any conversation amongst those at NKU. 752 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 6: There will be a tournament team and pretty good chance. 753 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: Has anyone talked at NKU about why where has Austin 754 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 2: been during this skit? 755 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 8: Well? 756 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: Why has he not been in the I. 757 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 4: Went to that Cleveland Stay game. Darren Horne said to me, 758 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 4: why does Austin Elmore hate me? 759 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 6: Because he hate us. Why does he not support our program? 760 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 6: I can't. I got enough to worry about me. 761 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 4: All of that's just not true. Like, what do we 762 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 4: have to do to get him in the door. Yeah, 763 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: they've lost four in a row. They got a big 764 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: game coming up against Green Bay. 765 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 6: Doug Gottlieb and the lead. He's giving up his. 766 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: Radio kid, Why can't thet man go down there tomorrow? 767 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 6: Because it's super Bowl week? 768 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 10: And as you know, with Austin, as long as there 769 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 10: is football going, he's too busy. He's crunching tape, he's 770 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 10: breaking down. Then then he's going to dive into mock drafts. 771 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 10: I saw him and his really good friend that we're 772 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 10: working on Paul's mock all season. 773 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's what it was. I saw them together 774 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: for quite some time. 775 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 4: I is the truth, which is it's sad, but it 776 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 4: Worksketball game because you're busy. No, I watched the basketball 777 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 4: doing what that's football? Because my favorite segment. We're going 778 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 4: to do it next week because he hates it. We 779 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 4: get Mike to Corsi on. Mike de Coursey hates this trope, 780 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 4: which is why we do it. Hey, Mike, for people 781 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 4: who have been too busy watching football one day a 782 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 4: week or two days a week to pay any attention 783 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 4: to college basketball, get folks called up. 784 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 6: He hates that because and I like, what are people doing? 785 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 6: Like you? 786 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 10: You really can't do follow two sports at once. But 787 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 10: Austin is one of those guys. 788 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 4: Next Monday, six days from right now, college basketball season begins. 789 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 6: I will. 790 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: For many in this area, college basketball season has already ended. 791 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 10: It can't begin if it's already over. Anyway, Paul Danner 792 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 10: Junior is going to be on the show. Fantastic looking 793 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 10: forward to that. I've I tweeted in a response to 794 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 10: somebody else it's Radio Row week at the Super Bowl, 795 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 10: and I said it's the saddest place on earth. And 796 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 10: I was asked to elaborate, and I will today. Not 797 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 10: that this matters to anybody. I have a question, and 798 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 10: I think it's a good one that we're never going 799 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 10: to get an answer to about the Reds acquisition of Suarez. 800 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: And Series World Series or Bust. 801 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 10: There's a woman that we work with and are you 802 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 10: excited I heard this conversation. Oh yeah, well that's nice. 803 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 6: It was she sounded like she was pronouncing the name 804 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 6: of a vacuum cleaner I had. 805 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 4: I had a conversation with the salesperson yesterday and they said, 806 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 4: can you send me an email of why the like, 807 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 4: what the Reds did and why it matters. I said, sure, 808 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 4: went a very long email. I can do that home runs. Yeah, 809 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 4: if they need a bat. 810 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 10: We have a special guest that that you'll hear from 811 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 10: in the show today. 812 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 6: Wow, special guests? 813 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: How about this? 814 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 4: How about that? 815 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 6: It's not it's not Paul Dayner. 816 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 10: You will hear from a special guest during our show 817 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 10: today also, and I think I think you'll like this. 818 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 10: I interviewed Jean's territory at the Older Sports Tag the 819 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 10: other night. 820 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 6: He was terrific. Now I was. 821 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 2: I was curious as to him being the speaker at 822 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: the stag. 823 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 6: I guess there's people who don't like him. I don't 824 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 6: know why. He was awesome. We're going to have that 825 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 6: interview at five twenty. 826 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: Wow. 827 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 4: Well, what do you think about the idea that the 828 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 4: NFL wants to have sixteen or seventeen International games a year? 829 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 10: It just feels like the next step. I don't love it. 830 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 10: And I'm a hypocrite because when the Bengals played in 831 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 10: London and gave up a home game. I went and 832 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 10: had a blast, But I think if you're going to 833 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 10: ask taxpayers to fund stadiums, then every one of your 834 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 10: home games should be in those stadiums. 835 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 4: Agreed. 836 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 10: I think you have a baseline obligation morally. If we're 837 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 10: going to ask you to shell out public funds to 838 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 10: build us a palace that we are mainly going to 839 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 10: profit from, we shouldn't take a game overseas. But I 840 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 10: also understand the NFL is in the business of creating 841 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 10: opportunities for broadcasters to jump on board. We're going to 842 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 10: have an eighteen game regular season. They've expanded the reach 843 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 10: of the league by going to so many markets. It's 844 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 10: just the next step in the evolution has been everybody plays. 845 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 10: And there's a part of me that goes like, if 846 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 10: you're gonna make a handful of teams, do it, which 847 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 10: I think competitively you put you at a disadvantage. If 848 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 10: you're gonna make a handful of teams, do it, then 849 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 10: make everybody do it, right. But I don't love the 850 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 10: idea of taking games away from the United States. 851 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: Are we going to get a Super Bowl internationally? 852 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 6: Probably one day? 853 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 854 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 10: Probably, We're never going to have a team in London, Like, 855 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 10: how's not gonna work out? 856 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 2: Can you imagine Wes Miller or Mick cronin coaching those teams? 857 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what that travel would look like? 858 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 10: We just had to travel eight time zones and then 859 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 10: come back and play in the Central Times. 860 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean imagine unbelievable. 861 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 10: But like I hear coaches talk or I hear fans talk, like, 862 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 10: man Seattle had to fly to Wootlanta and play at 863 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 10: one o'clock on Sunday? Cool, How's Seattle gonna fly to 864 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 10: Madrid and play a game against the Madrid Dragons or whoever? 865 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 10: They would be like, Okay, no, we're not gonna buy 866 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 10: do I certainly understand that the next step is we're gonna. 867 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 4: Have every team play internationally. And I'll say I have 868 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 4: mixed feelings about it. 869 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: Okay. We had Rick Bryn on today to get his 870 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: insights on Nku and Xavier. We asked Rick, what's the 871 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 2: what's the path to victory tonight? For Xavier? He said, 872 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: a natural disaster? Do you have any other path to 873 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: victory other than a natural disaster? 874 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 10: Well, I mean, you know, some sort of like measles 875 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 10: outbreak among the Yukon players. Yeah, or you know the 876 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 10: because you know, we have a lot of folks who 877 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 10: are like, you know it, don't take your vaccine, that's right. 878 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 5: More. 879 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the. 880 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 6: Yukon players listen to the Robert Kennedy's right. 881 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 2: Maybe there's hard for Maybe there's weather. 882 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 6: And hard for me, you know, bad weather, whatever it is. 883 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 2: Maybe they got what sincere Harris has had for a week. 884 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 10: Maybe they could be like my kids school district and 885 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 10: like three hours before school before school starts, announced we're 886 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 10: not going to have it. And then some of the 887 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 10: Yukon players are like, cool, don't have to show up, 888 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 10: but some of them still do when they play the game. 889 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 6: I don't know. 890 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 10: They lost by twenty three in the game here. Yukon 891 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 10: is awesome. I think I think that the third best 892 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 10: team in the country. But uh, and that's why Savior 893 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 10: had to win that game on Saturday, because of the 894 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 10: two games they have in front of them St. 895 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 6: John's both on the road. 896 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 2: When you think of Red's history and players that have 897 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: donned the number fifty one, which is how many days 898 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: were away from opening day, is there anyone that comes 899 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 2: to mind fifty one? 900 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't think of one. 901 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 2: Greg Ashcraft, Jared Burton. 902 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 6: Oh, he was the dude who ran in from the bullpen. 903 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: What about the name Jonathan Broxton, Red's got him at 904 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: the trade down the full seasons of number fifty one 905 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 2: twenty twelve. 906 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 6: I didn't remember he warn number. 907 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 2: Fore Sean Marshall. 908 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 6: Oh, Brady Singer, Brady Singer worse fifty one? 909 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeh see, I don't remember these. 910 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,959 Speaker 6: Sean Marshall was a good acquisition until he wasn't. 911 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 4: Does the name Eddie Priest mean anything to you, Jimmy Outlaw? 912 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 10: Eddie Priest sounds like he was the bass player in 913 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 10: a band that plays at Peacocks and Erlanger. 914 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 4: What about your buddy Greg Tubbs? 915 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 6: Greg Tubbs sounds like. 916 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: That he was the bouncer at Peacocks. 917 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 4: He the pouncer at Peacocks. Randy Saint Clair. Randy Sinclair 918 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 4: was a pitcher, also pitched for the Montreal ex Bo. Yeah, 919 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 4: number fifty one from the Reds. There you go in 920 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty eight. Wow, I didn't. 921 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 10: I didn't remember Brady Singer Ward number fifty one. When 922 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 10: I think a number fifty one, I think of Willie McGhee. Okay, 923 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 10: Saint Louis Cardinals. I think of Odell Thurman nineteen nineteen 924 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 10: eighty five n L m VP. That would have gone 925 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 10: to Dave Parker had the reds one in the West. 926 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 10: You don't think of Lisa Vertel Bonia. I do not 927 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 10: think of Lisa verto Bonia. 928 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 2: Okay, then we're done. 929 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 4: Even Kyle Crockett, I thought to Kio Spikes was fifty one, 930 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 4: wasn't he? Yes? 931 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 8: He was. 932 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 4: Okay, that's a good one. T Kio Spikes is awesome. 933 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 6: Randy Johnson fifty one. 934 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 4: That's correct, big unit. 935 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 6: But you yeah, yeah, all right, other fifty ones. 936 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 2: I failed. Didn't get fired about anything today, No. 937 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 6: Not really. 938 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 10: There was nothing now that I know. This is a 939 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 10: thing of yours. Yeah, I'll come in every Tuesday. 940 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: Give me something, but just something, you know what really 941 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 2: grinds my gears. These folks at the mall. It would 942 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: have been perfect for Paul. 943 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 4: By the way, has anybody seen Dalton Riisner at the 944 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 4: Kenwood Towns. 945 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 2: He's got a house in Kansas Place in Kansas City. 946 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 6: I have mals there. 947 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 4: Can you ask Paul about Area fifty one? Give any 948 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 4: thoughts on that? 949 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 6: We've talked about Aliens on his podcast before h bring 950 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 6: into the show today, we might we might do that. 951 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 2: That comes up next to The Mogger Show on ESPN 952 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Second Sports Station Special guests coming up. Have 953 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: a great rest of your Tuesday. Enjoy the special guest 954 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 2: and more. 955 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 11: Next Ky Cincinnati, make us the number one preset on 956 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 11: your car radio and on the free, new and improved 957 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 11: iHeartRadio AD Free never sounded so good, ESPN fifteen thirty. 958 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 2: You know who's listening