1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Business, your Small Moves Leader fan fan Radio Network, I'm 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: done and and k fa N dot com two minutes 3 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: thirteen seconds past three Central Standard time. It is a 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Tuesday edition bumper a bumpet program. My name is Dan 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Barrero from Ringstane Retch newspaper of the Twin Cities. Guardsy 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: produces the program as well, and we're delighted to be 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: a board today with you between now and I'm assuming 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: six thirty this evening, as. 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: We continue. 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: In what is I guess traditionally call the sports abyss? 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: Or does this usher in? 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: Does the return of football in a big way via 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: the combine? Is that on the ABYSS calendar? Technically does 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: this denote is a doneote the end of the abyss? 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a possible. 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: Has anybody ever done the official ABYSS calendar? Has it 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: ever been There's a lot of unofficial ABYSS calendars, but 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: has ever as an official one ever been designated or written? 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: To me, I. 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: Feel like the main part of the ABYSS is when 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: the winter sports end, when it's just base. Oh so 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: it's it's passed. I feel like that's the meaty part 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: of the ABYSS. I thought it is ABYSS. I thought 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: in the Paul Allen World. The abyss starts the minute 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Pro football shuts down, at least in terms of games played. 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: I remember it being more of a summer thing, okay, 27 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: but it's there's it's abyssy in nature right now. Well, again, 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: we've had less of an abyss if you want to 29 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: consider this period abyssie, because we did have the Winter 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Olympics that just wrapped up, and now they are indeed over, 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: but hockey starts resumes. I think tomorrow basketball has resumed, right, 32 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: and now we do have the COMBA. In fact, Kevin 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Seffert is going to check in today. What time is 34 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: Seffert on three thirty, four thirty, that's right, Louie is 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: early today, Luigi is three thirty and Kevin Seffert dateline Indianapolis, Indiana. 36 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: He will join for the Belly of the Beast at 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: four thirty this very afternoon. We'll get to some emails today, 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: brash On, Brian Kfean text line six four six eight six. 39 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: We've got some A section stuff to explore. 40 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad we're not two guests intensive today because there's 41 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: a lot of legitimate stories I think for us to 42 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: examine explore a debate, argue over all those sorts of. 43 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: Of good things small moves. 44 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: One of my favorite, I guess you could call it 45 00:02:54,760 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: science fiction motion pictures is film. Godsh it's been a 46 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: long time. I think the name of the movie is Contact. 47 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it stars, among others, Jody Foster. I 48 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: mean she kind of headlines it and is the anchor 49 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: of the film. Always thought it was a very good movie. 50 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: It's a movie that I got Giovanzi to watch and 51 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: she loves it as well. And there's a very tender 52 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: scene in the film where the character that Jodi Foster 53 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: plays in the movie is a doctor Arroway, doctor Ellie Arroway, 54 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: and there's flashbacks to when she's growing up and as 55 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: I recall it, she's growing up just with her father, 56 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: and she becomes fascinated as a at a young age 57 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: with radio frequencies, short wave stuff, and so she many 58 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: nights would get on I want to say, a short 59 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: wave and try to find make contact with no pun intended, 60 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: with folks in other parts of the country right. 61 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: Or even the world. 62 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: And every time she did make contact of some sort, 63 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: then she would record it. She'd like she had a 64 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: big mural up on her bedroom wall, and she put 65 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: another pin for another location, and she became from time 66 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: to time frustrated that she couldn't more quickly add to 67 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: that list and make it grow as fast as she 68 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: wanted it to grow. And her father looks at her 69 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: with a very serene smile and says, small moves, Ellie, 70 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: small moves, very tender moment in the film holds up. 71 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: You get back to it very late. I don't want 72 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: to ruin it. I don't want to do a spoiler 73 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: alert for you. I don't want to ruin it about 74 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: where it comes back into the story. And I mean 75 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: and I took it as you're looking at that as 76 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: an example of a metaphor for patients slowing down. Not 77 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: every move has to be enormous to get to where 78 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: you want to go. Sometimes you have to go slower. 79 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to be more deliberate through that approach. 80 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: And believe it or not, it's on my mind today 81 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: in a way that probably will surprise people, but it's 82 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: on my mind today. In the wake of some comments 83 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: by well one of the greatest bast football coach slash 84 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: executive names of all time, pat Riley. Riley just had 85 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: a statue unveiled. I should say the Lakers organization unveiled 86 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: a statue to salute him. Man, they got a lot 87 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: of statues in that in that there right yard. 88 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. 89 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: And now I haven't been there in a while. I 90 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it all. Yeah, so several of the 91 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: statues were not up there when I last time I went. 92 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: It's outstanding. So Ryles gets a a statue and and 93 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if this was at the presser after 94 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: before he's you know, because he's he has a chance 95 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: to pontificate on all sorts of things. He's asked about 96 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: his time in LA, He's asked about his time in 97 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: New York, he's asked about his time in Miami, where 98 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: he still is. And I'll say again to me, pat 99 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: Riley's greatest strength was he I think believed in the 100 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: cliche we all he or two when it comes to 101 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: successful coaches, and that is, stop forcing your collection of 102 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: players to do what you want them to do stylistically, 103 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: show the ability to adjust whatever your precepts are to 104 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: the talent that you have at hand. Right, That's what 105 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: we like to think the best coaches do. They're not 106 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: stubborn about what I play one way. We run united, 107 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: we run that's all we do. My system, it's my system, 108 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: which he deployed beautifully in Los Angeles. When you have 109 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 1: urban magic, Johnson leading the fast break, that makes sense. 110 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: He gets to New York and he looks around and says, hmm, 111 00:07:53,720 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing, Charles Oakley, several others, John starks, Well. 112 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: They're not fast, but they're physical. They can wear on you. 113 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: So guess what in New York, I'm going to build 114 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: a system that is less interested in looking pretty and 115 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: more interested in being effective with physicality, right, toughness, even 116 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: though in all honesty, the Lakers teams were tough in 117 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: their own way, and then Miami a whole different deal. 118 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: But I didn't really intend to do this soliloquy just 119 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: to salute Riley, although it was admittedly one of the 120 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: I think you know sidebars I did want to discuss 121 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: because I do think I just I think the guy's 122 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: been again in showing that ability to change with his 123 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: players in his stylistic sense. I think that makes them, 124 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: if not the best of all time, one of the 125 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: best of all time because he had that ability. But 126 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: it was something else he said that got my attention 127 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know if this was a muse. I 128 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: don't know if he was asked the question or not. 129 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it was what do you miss about the Are 130 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: there things from the old NBA that you miss today? 131 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: Things that you think have gone away that you'd like 132 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: to see comeback? 133 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: And he said, matter of fact, there is. 134 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: I miss looking over to the sidelines and seeing coaches 135 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: in suits and ties. 136 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: In fact, here's the direct quote. 137 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: I think when fans look over at the sidelines, they 138 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: want to see someone that looks like a leader. I 139 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: got to tell you, I admit to pure fraudulents on 140 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: this issue. I am someone who has never been particularly 141 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: interested in dressing up. 142 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: Never really wanted to, and. 143 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: If I were forced to, I guess I would, but 144 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: I'd say I don't need it. I don't think it 145 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: would make me do my job any better. And yet, 146 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: esthetically speaking, even as I say that, I'm contradicting myself here, 147 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm with Ryles. I believe something has been lost in 148 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: terms of a sense of decorum. I don't even know 149 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: how to describe it. When the decision was made to 150 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: where basically, wear whatever you want, as long as you 151 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: every coach wears the same thing. 152 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: Three quarter zip. You can wear polo. 153 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: I think you can wear a flat out sweatshirt if 154 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: you want, as long as they're kind of nice looking 155 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: and everybody else is wearing them. And the stretch pants, right, 156 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. Gym shoes. Not gonna wear shiny, 157 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: you know, dress shoes. Wearing that, you know, it doesn't 158 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: even make any sense. It doesn't add up. And that 159 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: gets me back to small moves. We think right now 160 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: the world is going to hell in a handbasket. 161 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: Right. 162 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: Whether that's true or not, whether that's recency buyas or not, 163 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, But I'll ask you the question, is 164 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: it possible, Is it actually practical, more practical to start 165 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to changing the world and making us 166 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: feel better about the world. Isn't there a danger in 167 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: thinking too big and too grand because it's it's too overpower, 168 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: it's too intimidating to get to all. 169 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: The big stuff. Maybe we start small. 170 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the small move of putting that sense of style 171 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: in decorum on the sidelines once again with coaches and 172 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: beautifully tailored suits and tie and dress shoes is a 173 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: good place to start. Not the fish, but you got 174 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: to start small, as Ellie's father said in the motion picture, 175 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: we were just talking about contact. Could that be the 176 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: beginning of it? Because when I read that quote, I 177 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: wasn't surprised he's said it before, but it resonated with me. 178 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: Even though, like I said, I don't want to wear them, 179 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to have to wear them. I wouldn't 180 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: be comfortable wearing them. So I admit I'm being a 181 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: fraud about it, But I believe pat Riley has a point. 182 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: Your thoughts good luck, and we could expand it out. Yes, 183 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: of course you start there. 184 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: People used to well, they always say, when you want 185 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: to feel accomplished, you make a list, and the first 186 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: thing on the list is make a list, and then 187 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: you can cross that off. 188 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: Yes, then you've got momentum. 189 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: Yes, and the snowball is starting to roll downhill, and 190 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: you start with the easiest task first, and then you 191 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: feel good, you feel accomplished. So you might be onto 192 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: something there. People used to dress up to go to games. 193 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: They did. People we've talked about this. 194 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: Look at baseball, Yes, wallparks in the thirties, forties, fifties, 195 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: even into the sixties. It's astonishing to see what they wore. 196 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: Airplane travel exactly. That's the next one. Yeah, that's it now. 197 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to. 198 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: You know, obviously implementing a dress code is rather dangerous 199 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five an hour in front. 200 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, have we lost something? There's rotten? 201 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: Does Ryles have a larger point? I call him Ryle's 202 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: good vibe with him all the way back to Dallas days. 203 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: Yep. I think he's onto something. I really do Now. 204 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't think there's enough other people, no coaches fair 205 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: enough now admittedly too, what's the other Ryle's advantage? 206 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: He looks good. He looks good. 207 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: He's like that who looks better in a suit than 208 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: pat Riley. He walked so Rob Polinka could run. In 209 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: terms of style, yes, one hundred percent true. Bratschaw Bright 210 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: KFN text light is open. Lots of good replies coming 211 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: in six, four, six, eight six. Who is the last 212 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: foot college football coach to wear a suit not just 213 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: a tie. 214 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: Suit? 215 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: Did Joe Pah wear a suit or did you just 216 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: make sure he wore a tie? I think he just 217 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: wore a tie. Maybe at a time he wore a suit. 218 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: There were some that did wear full suits here right, Yeah, 219 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: back in the day. And there are some coaches that 220 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: still do wear suits in the college game, like Greg 221 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: Guard Wisconsin, Is that right, Yeah, he's probably in Lakeville 222 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: right now. The point he wears full suits. Yeah, his 223 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: staff dresses up. Doesn't look as good as Ryles, but 224 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: that's not his phone. No, I don't think he would 225 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: deny that. No, I mean least he's trying. Yes, give 226 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: him some credit for that. The Gopher women's basketball team, 227 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: they dress up, the staff wears nice clothes at home, 228 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: and the zips. 229 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: On the road. 230 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a distinction. That's kind of a laundry and 231 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: packing situation. I was told that it's easier to just 232 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: pack for a road trip. Yeah, you don't have to 233 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: bring your suit bag, for example. So there are some 234 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: people that still try to class it up a little 235 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: bit for Riley's requests. 236 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: I'm selling. I'm just telling you. 237 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean again, there's a lot of steps between NBA 238 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: coaches putting suits back on and solving all the world's problems. 239 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: There's a few steps in between. I don't deny that 240 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: it's a good jumpy. I want to start somewhere, and 241 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: I want to start modest. 242 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: With a small move because it's doable, and. 243 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: Then maybe a second move is added to it, and 244 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: a third and a fourth and there's just could it 245 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: lead to a place where there's just greater decorum everywhere? 246 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Parish The thought even during the President's State of the 247 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Union speech tonight. 248 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: Good. 249 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: Look, Now, I think it's going to take some time 250 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: before we get to that point. If we ever get 251 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: back to that point when he's wearing a suit. He 252 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: is wearing a suit. Yeah, but I don't think decorum 253 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: will be at the top of the list as the 254 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: speech is conveyed, and folks on the Democrats who show up, 255 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: that is because I think some of them are saying 256 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: they're going to stay away. 257 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: How they might respond as well. Keep the text coming. 258 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: We'll come back with a couple of your texts and 259 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: other matters, including Luigi at the bottom of the end. 260 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: If the late Great and Natalie attired Chuck Daly had 261 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: not worn a suit, the world would have been deprived 262 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: of a great bumper to bumper story and a timeless SoundBite. 263 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. 264 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: That's from General Soreness. That's a great callback and one 265 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: percent true. There's nothing apocryphal about the time that I 266 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: had the audacity. Well, let me back up real quickly. 267 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: For people don't know the story covering NBA Playoff, I 268 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: want to say it must have been. It's one of 269 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: the finals. 270 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. At this point. 271 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: Daily is doing some color commentating, and there's a media 272 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: room where you set up your computer for you know, writing, 273 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: maybe at halftime, but more likely after the game. I 274 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: get back at the end of the game and there's 275 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: a suit coat draped over my chair. I honestly at 276 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: that point don't know whose suit code it is, but 277 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: I got to move it because I don't want to, 278 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: you know, wrinkle it, even though I shouldn't have to 279 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: mess with it at all because it's my share. Your 280 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: name's right there, exactly right. So I'm in the process 281 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: of starting very carefully because I can tell this is 282 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: silk Man. That's a big time suit. This is not 283 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: a Kmart special. I mean the process of very carefully 284 00:17:53,680 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: lifting the coat up. When I hear behind me, thank you, 285 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: and it's Chuck Daily, very sarcastically telling me be careful 286 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: with that, and I will take it from you. That 287 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: story is true and he could wear a suit. Chuck 288 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: Daly was I think he was in pat Riley's league. 289 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: In that regard, he was an outstanding outstanding dresser. For sure, 290 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: suits mean business. Casual dress leads to casual play. Ryles 291 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: is dapper. The Hughes brothers are scrappers type this while 292 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: on the Wolves and five, Oh my God, Cecil recalled 293 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Dan Reeves, former Denver coach, was always sharp. However, the 294 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: NFL currently requires staff to wear official gear. 295 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: That's true, It's all, and it's all. 296 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: What I hate is this is and maybe I'm the 297 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: minority on this, I hate that they all have to 298 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: wear the same thing. 299 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want a little. 300 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: Little variety, It's just it wouldn't or even if it's 301 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: going to be gear from a team, it shouldn't have 302 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: to be the same hoodie or the same ball cap, 303 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: which I think it tends to be like they're all, 304 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: you know, like it's a fraternity or yeah, basketball, it 305 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: all has to be the same, I know for sure. 306 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Think about if Clem Haskins was just 307 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: wearing a hoodie, he could never have thrown his jacket 308 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: into the crowd, which was a big trademark of William's arena. 309 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: Well he could have I guess it's It would have 310 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: been a little more complicated to take the hoodie off, Yeah, 311 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: especially if it's a form fitting hoodie. 312 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: For sure, it might be a little more difficult. 313 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: As you say, the suit coat is made for tearing 314 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: it off, and as you say, throwing it into the 315 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: crowd to say it's on now and we all have 316 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: signal his BMI not in the koc mat lafleur mode. I, 317 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: by the way, old enough to watch, remember watching Clem 318 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: Haskins play basketball, and despite that physique where he was 319 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: always a little thicker, not as thick as he became, 320 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: he was a hell of a score. But I believe 321 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: it well, I think about the gym. Clem had different 322 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: levels too. Of he would do like the half jacket off, 323 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna. 324 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: Take it off. I'm gonna take it off. 325 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: Man, he teased you with it, high tower, I'm gonna 326 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: take this and then and then he'd throw it. 327 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: It was great. 328 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: I remember Patino got teed up for throwing his jackets. Now, 329 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: they don't you throw the jacket. Yeah, Patino threw. They 330 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: don't like if you throw a jacket automatic technical. So again, 331 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: but that maybe goes back to if we never had 332 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: lost the suits. 333 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: That's it. 334 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they would have never changed that rule. I'm a teacher, Dan, 335 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying my part. I've started tie Tuesday and wear 336 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: one each week, trying to get some of the suits 337 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: to join me. A few have joined, but it does 338 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: not appear to be spiraling quickly. Dry heat Guy says, 339 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: I was a photographer on the sidelines in twenty ten. Well, 340 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: Penn State was here in one of Joe PA's last games. 341 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: He wore multiple sweaters. He wasn't wearing a suit or 342 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: to that particular game. I have my own photos to 343 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: prove it. Bring back class. I'm thirty. Couldn't agree more. 344 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: Game day used to feel different. Head coach, used to 345 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: be a respected leader, and maybe it still is. He 346 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: still is, he still is, but it feels less so. 347 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan of the Niners wore a suit. Well, a 348 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: lot of coaches back then, did Tom Landry, Yeah, or 349 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: certainly wore a Uh. Well, Mike Nolan's wearing a suit 350 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: and tie. That's why PJ does it. 351 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. 352 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: Nolan was pj's coach in the NFL, and that's why 353 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: he wears the tie. Jim Tressel, same thing, or the 354 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: tie in the clendervest, and those are pj's guys. So 355 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: that's why he does that. That full suit, he wears 356 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: the zip over the tie. But that's why he does that. 357 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: Can't read that one. Today is my actual birthday, So 358 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: I'm wearing a suit and I tell people wearing my 359 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: birthday suit from your enough, said friend Dano. 360 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: I love it, Dano. That sounds like something Kessler would do. 361 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: That's true. Didn't Mason your face wear a suit? Yes? 362 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: In fact, well he said, I don't know if he 363 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: wore a suit. No, he wore a tie. An yeah, yeah, 364 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: I thought he didn't wear it all the time. 365 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Okay, I don't think so, but 366 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: it was yeah, it was again. You can do you know, 367 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: I guess the blazer. You can do the sport code, 368 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's as effective on the sidelines 369 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: as a as a as a you know, suit, a 370 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: full suit. Do you hockey coaches still wear suits? Now 371 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: that's been pointed out, You're hundred percent right. Hockey community 372 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: is not bowed to societal pressure to dress down. Pat 373 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: Riley should sue Gavin Newsom for impersonating an NBA coach 374 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: he does have. 375 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: That slick back. Yeah, Ryle's hair. Yeah. 376 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: The amazing thing about Ryles too, But was his transformation 377 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: if you go back and watch him as a player, 378 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: including as a pro as an NBA player. There's a 379 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: famous episode of Colombo where several members of the Lakers 380 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: are are are in practice and it's filmed and you 381 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't even recognize Riles. 382 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: He had like he had like. 383 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: The fu man shoe mustache and the mutton chop sideburns. 384 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: It was not anywhere close to the smooth, glitzy showtime 385 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: look with the greased back hair, the whole bit. A 386 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: completely different look. He made himself over once he became 387 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: an NBA. 388 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: He's gotten there. 389 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: Maybe a Finch he wore a suit, the Wolves would 390 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: put forth more of an effort. 391 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: We were waiting for that. Well, I'm glad that somebody 392 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: went got to it. 393 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure I could picture Finch in a suit, honestly, 394 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: hard to say. 395 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: I think he'd looked good. Oh yeah, Finch, he would 396 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: look good. 397 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: But whatever, All right, let's make this the bottom of 398 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: our pause. Lots of other great texts will mix and 399 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: match these throughout the show. We've had bonus Louis Sunday 400 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: twice as we watched the US get gold over Canada. 401 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: We'll get back to some leftover observations from Luigi and 402 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: move the clock forward as well to what the Minnesota 403 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: Wild will soon be up to as their season resumes 404 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: tomorrow night, I should say, Thursday night, right here on 405 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: the fan against the lamps. 406 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: Around the world in the world, No Nanny, Well, as. 407 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: Hard is this, as hard as this is to believe, 408 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: we found another hall of fame that lou Nanny was 409 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: not yet quite in another one. 410 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't think there were any left. 411 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: We didn't think there was any place else to know, 412 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: I know, but it turns out the Minnesota Minnesota State 413 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: High School League has a Hall of Fame, and for 414 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: some reason, Luigi hasn't isn't already in it, but now 415 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: he's going to be. 416 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: He is a member of the league's. 417 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame class of two thousand and twenty six. 418 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: And we've talked about this before. You're definitely in double digits. 419 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: Are you approaching twenty halls of fame? 420 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: Now? 421 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: Have you counted up how many you're in? Are about 422 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: to be in? 423 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: No? I think it's eleven. He very pleased, very honored 424 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 3: to be going into that. I believe it's April nineteenth. Nice, 425 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: that's Sunday. 426 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you have to give a speech. 427 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 3: No, I've already done the It was a unique way 428 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: to do it. And I like that they did an 429 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: interview with the on camera the film and that's what 430 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: Bill plays that day. 431 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: You know, so because that my next question, Well, I 432 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: guess that this answers my next question, because my next 433 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: was we have to actually be here for an event 434 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: because we know you don't want to. You generally don't 435 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: like being here in April for God's sake, but it's 436 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: unnecessary in this case. 437 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: It's all done. 438 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: No, I'm going to be there. A matter of fact, 439 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 3: I have a meeting in Palma Springs on April seventeenth, 440 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: and so I'm playing from Palma Strings from Minneapolis and 441 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: will be there for the nineteenth. 442 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on uh you number eleven. 443 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: That should be our quest is we should find the 444 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame that louis not in that and demand 445 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: to know why he is in it. Like he's not 446 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: in it yet, start browbeating. We're gonna just get it. 447 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Send us the list, Luig of all your halls of 448 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: fame at some point, even you go through the plaques 449 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: and we'll figure out which one you're not in yet 450 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: that you need to. 451 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: Here's the better way to look at it. 452 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: Find out from Luigi which one he's not in and 453 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: where that's stuck in his craw whether there's when he said, well, 454 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: that makes no sense, I'm in all these halls of fame. 455 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: How am I not in this one? 456 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: Is there a hall of fame you've identified that you 457 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: want to be in and that you're pissed off you're 458 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: not already in. 459 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not. I'm not upset about it. I'm not 460 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: in the Canadian Hall of Fame. I mean that building 461 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: international interesting hall of Fame, which is part of it. 462 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: I don't deserve to be in there. That's a different one. 463 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: Okay, who knows. We'll look at it. 464 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: There's still we'll get to the bottom of it one 465 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: one way or the other. Do we know we know 466 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: you'll be in the Florida Hockey Hall of Fame at 467 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: some point for your role in growing the. 468 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: Game, for building the game. 469 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if they have one yet. Maybe that's 470 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: your next question. That's and that what sid did? He 471 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: started the Minnesota Sports Hall of Fame with the start 472 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: tribute and then he was one of the first hoctees 473 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: you could do it. 474 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: Luke, by the way, speaking of halls of fame, did we. 475 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: Did I did we miss this story or did. 476 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: We talk about it? And I'm just not remembering it? 477 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: Have we have we moved? Is our Hall of Fame 478 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: the one that was an evelyth? Is it still an 479 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: evelythe or is it on the move? Or refresh my 480 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: memory because there was a big debate about moving it 481 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: to a place where more people could get to it. 482 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: Where is all that at Louis. 483 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 3: That's still in evelope that has been booth and I 484 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: don't think there's any discussion of both. I do think 485 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 3: there might be some sharing. Like the next hall of 486 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: Fame coming in our safe will be the Minnesota High 487 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: School Hall of Fame, which you know will will be 488 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: built now they've already announced the Invert Girls, and when 489 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 3: that becomes goesn't fruish, And I would think they might 490 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: be sharing some stuff. I'd be surprising from the from 491 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: the US Hockey All Fame book down there and back 492 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: and forth. Whatever. 493 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about that for sure is there such 494 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: a thing as a Balsam Lake Hall of Fame. 495 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in that. 496 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: Because a day from East Balsam undered about brought that 497 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: to my attention, and he wondered, whether you know there's 498 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: some discussion apparently about starting a Balsam Lake Hall of 499 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: Fame with you being a charter member, like you becoming 500 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: the first inductee. 501 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: You would not say no to that? 502 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: Correct, no, because it'll probably include Indiana. 503 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, that would actually be absolute perfect. Hey. 504 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 1: We had West Walls on the show yesterday and one 505 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: of the observations he had I thought was pretty interesting. 506 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: He said, Look, you know, you get that whole debate 507 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: about out playing who and the goaltender's part of the 508 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: team and all that, which you and I talked about Sunday, 509 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: he said, But I got to tell you he's, in 510 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: my opinion as a Canadian obviously, Who's now settled here 511 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: pretty nicely, He said, I didn't think Canada played smart 512 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: hockey at all, especially in the ot that he said. 513 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: And if we're talking about evaluating, you know, out playing 514 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: the other team, part of it is whether you play 515 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: with intelligence, and he did not like the intelligence that 516 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: he's said Canada played with you. He mentioned he thought 517 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: Count Conor McDavid a couple of times was too impatient 518 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: with the puck in ot. I thought it was an 519 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: interesting point that he was making that probably should be 520 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: part of the conversation, right. 521 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: Well, it definitely is part of the conversation. He what 522 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: he pointed out is something I think you're probably going 523 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: to hear more about as the scars were off up there, 524 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: because McDavid did force a couple of plays. In fact, 525 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: the last one was he tried to go to ded 526 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: Ron and Hughes and short side you know, Helvic makes 527 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: the same He kicks the puck over the corner that 528 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: up to Hughes and up to the ice. But he 529 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: was the main thing he did wrong in that play 530 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: is he took the wrong man coming back. Yeah, after 531 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: hughses the guy checking him by the net. And now 532 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: as the puck goes from the goaltender the defenseman, Hughes 533 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: breaks up ice and and what doing both mccarr and 534 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: McDavid both do they stayed in that wrenskey. Now had 535 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: McCart been successful and or even uh McDavid getting that 536 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: pucket had a two or zero on a goal dinner. 537 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: But you remember we talked about that just before the 538 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: overtime out of the smart the best offensive players are 539 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: as your best defensive players, right, and they certainly didn't 540 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: think defensive at that time in the moment that they 541 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: weren't able to control that pucking. He was knocked it 542 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: by them. Two men are caught. Well, you would say, 543 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: fortunately for Canada, puck goes over the right side where 544 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: McKinnon and where she's going after it, McCarty McDavid on 545 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: its way back goes towards the put carrier or the 546 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: guys battling for the puck, and the other ford, which 547 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: is Lark and going in deep. Hughes is the guy 548 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: in the outside wide open and I mean David was 549 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: the closest guy that the guy to the huge He 550 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: should have gone over to guard him, which he didn't, 551 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: and that's why he was the wide open. He scored 552 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: the goal. 553 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. 554 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you know, that's the beauty of it is 555 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: there's the adrenaline of the moment and what you see, 556 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: and then you get extra time and you get a 557 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: chance maybe to explore some things that we didn't right. 558 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: As the story is breaking, we now have had a 559 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: couple of days since the game. What strikes you, what 560 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: has come into your head, or even what have you 561 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: observed that you've been interested in regarding the sort of 562 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: the reaction to what took place on Sunday. 563 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: Well, the first thing is, now there's an uproar, which 564 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: I thought there would be from Canada book playing three 565 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: on three. But what I want to see and people 566 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: should remember, they're saying, and I felt that I put 567 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 3: the same thing. I really think shouldn't be playing out 568 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: three for the championship. But since those are the rules, 569 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: you have to remember Canada beat Sweden in three on 570 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: three in the overtime and by the way, the Canadian 571 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: goaltender to make a nice say before Canadada goes down 572 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: on score. So you never heard any complaints about playing 573 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: in three and three after they won that game, So 574 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 3: why are you complaining now when the same thing happens, 575 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: only you're on the other side of it. In the 576 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 3: final game, you know, they forget, yeah, they forget that, yeah, 577 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 3: that they won in that situation, they were lucky to 578 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: win the game and Sweden could have been a third 579 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: period Sween had the veteran playing a third period in Canada. 580 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: And we don't hear any of that. It's how you know, 581 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: you see a lot now, a lot on Twitter and 582 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 3: that about as the days go by, it's almost saying 583 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 3: war and more than well, us weren't even in the game. 584 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: Why yes, they were in the game. And even though 585 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: they got out played in the third pero, they did 586 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 3: have a couple of chances for the Goldener to make 587 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 3: some excellent saints. Not as many as Canada. Mind, you're 588 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 3: not clearly as good a chances because the one that 589 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 3: Days had and that you can't get anything a chance 590 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 3: for that with that goalie saved by Helibuck and the 591 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 3: and they opened that McKinnon. But that's why you play 592 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: the game. At the end of the game, you know, 593 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 3: we got to play a big deal by Russia. After 594 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: the game, you didn't hear the Russian say, well, you 595 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: know we have played it. We should have won the game. 596 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 3: You lost the game. You lost the game. That's that's 597 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: where you gotta handle it. You lost the game. You 598 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: didn't do enough good thing to win obviously, because you 599 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: didn't win, and you're going to live with it. 600 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: The impact on the national psyche in Canada, we've talked 601 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: about this before. You know this well, that it is 602 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: devastating for the country with its history and in the sport, 603 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: and a great belief going in by a lot of 604 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: people like, well, this is the best team ever assembled. 605 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: There there is this loser proof for Canada. Uh West 606 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: told me there told us in our audience that he 607 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: didn't call or talk to his parents for a whole 608 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: day because he knew how devastated they were going to 609 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: be and he was trying to take the high road 610 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: and and just give them some time to come to 611 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: grips with it, which I thought was pretty pretty interesting. 612 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: You can speak to reaction in Canada. I mean I 613 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: I I keep hearing it's like over the top. 614 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 3: Wow. My brother called me before the games who you're 615 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: cheering for? So you gotta be kidding, you know what 616 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 3: I'm cheering for? Who I played for? And and so 617 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: I just couldn't resist. I waited till after the game, 618 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 3: and I had to drive over to this media in Naples, 619 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 3: and I'm halfway across the gator Alley, and I thought 620 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 3: it would be a good time to call my caller. Hello, Michael, Yeah, 621 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: I said, who was in the game. You know, I've 622 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: been trapping across. 623 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: He wasn't very appy. 624 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: Oh that's so you took the opposite tack to what walls. 625 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: You couldn't wait member of your. 626 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 3: That's too good, had the raw feeling. 627 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: That's just too good. That's just outstanding. 628 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you a more general question about 629 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: Canada the team, because can you not make the argument 630 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: if they really didn't play to what was supposed to 631 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: be their strength and capability through much of the tournament. 632 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean, given like you said, they had to come 633 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: back in two games, uh, and I give I always 634 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: give a team credit if they had that in them, obviously, 635 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: but they certainly did not play as if they were 636 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: as unbeatable as people had predicted they might be. 637 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 3: Dan, I think you're you're right on I when you 638 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: figure that they had to you know, they played an 639 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 3: overtime game against filling En Suite, right, and then New York. 640 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 3: I mean the fact that they had so many close 641 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: games with that power hose. It's one or two things. Obviously, 642 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 3: it's because all the other teams are getting better. But 643 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 3: if they had that kind of you still shouldn't have 644 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 3: them in a close games, I feel. And one of 645 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: the things I think and I'm not sure if they're correct, 646 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: but they played the top line so much because they 647 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 3: were so powerful. But when you look at the discrepancy 648 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 3: of playing time between that line and the other three 649 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 3: lines on that team, you wonder if by playing those 650 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: guys so much every game, if when they got to 651 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: the biggest game, the gold medal game, if they might 652 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: have even been a little tired off because they've played 653 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 3: so much. I know, in the overtime you can say 654 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 3: what you want, but I watched both. But David and 655 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 3: McCarry coming back, they were tired. They were tired, and 656 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 3: that's what happens when you're playing AMA hockey in that 657 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 3: stressful environment. You get tired. You need some time to recover. 658 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 3: You just can't get it in twenty thirty seconds, which 659 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: is all of what they got between shifts. 660 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: There, no question. 661 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, uh a big part of it. I think 662 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: it didn't they beat Finland, not Sweden. I think Canada. 663 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 2: It was uh three over. 664 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, just for the record, just for because a couple 665 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: of people that texted. 666 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 2: On that, so. 667 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So tell me about the I mean, you know, 668 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: one of the questions is that's come up, and we 669 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: talked a lot about this with actually had Al Michaels 670 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: on yesterday and we got into it with Wes too. 671 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: The are we passed the point where we we think 672 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a massive impact on American hockey US 673 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: hockey because of a game like that, because I always 674 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: I always almost feel like, well, US hockey is for 675 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: real and it doesn't need any more urging on with 676 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: a run like that. Or do you think a run 677 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: like that does exponentially, you know, transform things in a 678 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: way that otherwise would not have been transformed if the 679 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: US had not won the goal. 680 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 3: Well you're gonna you're gonna get a massive impact, but 681 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 3: not the same impact because we have so many, so 682 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 3: many more players now that we had nineteen eight after 683 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty, and we have so many more states really 684 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 3: with develop programs now we're getting players from many parts 685 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 3: of the country more than we had before. Where I 686 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 3: think you're gonna have a massive impact. I think the 687 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 3: viewing audience is going to increase more. I think the 688 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 3: people that sat and watch that game that really weren't 689 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 3: regular hockey fans will be getting a bigger interest in 690 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 3: the game and watching more games. I think the the 691 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 3: television ratings As we go forward from here in next 692 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: year and the year after, you're gonna have more people 693 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 3: seeing the game and wanting to see the game that 694 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 3: they had before. I think that's going to be a 695 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 3: real big impact. 696 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 1: Do you believe You know, we were talking yesterday about 697 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: how Wild fans are on a natural high right now. 698 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 2: Obviously right you. 699 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: Get your your country gets the gold several you know, 700 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: not just Minnesota players, but Wild players with great contributions. 701 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: And we all know what we're waiting for. 702 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: The resumption of the regular season Thursday night in the 703 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: case of the Wild in Colorado to take on the Avalanche. 704 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: And the buzz in the air is what Billy Garan is. 705 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: If he's at the craps table, he's hot, man, he's 706 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: unstoppable or blackjack, and so you know what people are saying, Well, 707 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: you got to keep rolling, man. If you're hot, you've 708 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: got to keep going after it. And that means you 709 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: got to. 710 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 2: Make a really big move. 711 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: We've seen now the whole world has seen what the 712 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: value of Quinn Hughes. To fully maximize what he represents, 713 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: we got to get him some help with a with 714 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: a big time forward. 715 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: So does any of that matter to Garin. 716 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think in any way he's more 717 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: likely to try to strike big because of how well 718 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 1: this thing went, or they can two completely different issues. 719 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 3: Well, you have to remember if you go to the 720 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 3: crap table or even a blackjack table, what do you need? 721 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 3: You need chips, you need money, And that could restrict 722 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 3: his thinking. As much as he wants to go forward, 723 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 3: how much can he play? Where's he got to play with? 724 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 3: He doesn't have the assets and the money that he 725 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 3: had before and money, I mean chips right because he's 726 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 3: trade away two first round picks it up coming here, 727 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 3: so the second and third, maybe even a fourth. So 728 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 3: you know you don't have any first round picks right 729 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 3: up close right now. So now you have to go 730 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 3: to assets now for the assets they always wanted prospects 731 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 3: now essentially right now, prospect whise you're limited to two 732 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 3: one you got to find a team if he does 733 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 3: have an extra goaltender, if you want to make that 734 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 3: move and say trade whichever one of the two you 735 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 3: want to trade, or he's got to be young forward 736 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 3: and the only one they've got right now with that 737 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 3: higher quality of value, I would say extrammeled. So I 738 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 3: don't think you want to part them, but they would 739 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 3: if the accid was right and the gauge was right. 740 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 3: But I think he's restricted by that. So the size 741 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 3: of the deal that he made before for you type 742 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 3: of the deal cannot be replicated to make something for 743 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 3: that type of player. So you got to you're going 744 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 3: to be dealing and hopefully a better player than his 745 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 3: team has right now in that position, but not the 746 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 3: type that's game break or like a youse. And so 747 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 3: then you decide, you know, who is it and where 748 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 3: can you get him? And what do you got to 749 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 3: give up? 750 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: Lou Nanny brought you by camps. As always, we were 751 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: early in the show. I was endorsing a comment made 752 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: by pat Riley, who you know, just got they just 753 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: unveiled in La another statue, this one of him, and 754 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, he had a bunch of press conferences or 755 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: several where questions are asked and he's given a chance 756 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: to sort of wax nostalgic about his time there and elsewhere. 757 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: And somehow the subject of a tire on the sidelines 758 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: for NBA coaches came up, and the quote from pat 759 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: Riley was he that he wishes NBA coaches still wore 760 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: suits and ties quote. I think when fans look over 761 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: the sidelines, they want to see someone that looks like 762 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: a leader. And I heartily endorsed what he said, even 763 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: though Louis I made clear I'm kind of a fraud 764 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: because I never get dressed up. 765 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 2: You do get dressed up a decent amount. 766 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: I think you enjoy getting dressed up hockey coaches, you know, 767 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: head coaches, they do still most, if not all, I believe, 768 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: where certainly a code and tie in many cases a suit, 769 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: do you agree to you miss the sort of the 770 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: message sent on NBA sidelines where now, of course it's 771 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: fancy sweat outfits and quarter zips, all those kinds of things, 772 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: and the suit days that pat Riley suit days are over. 773 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 3: I can make a statement I really truly believe is accurate, 774 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 3: and that that's saying you're never over dressed, but you 775 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 3: can't be under dressed. And I really believe that. And 776 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 3: so I think being dressed up in the position that 777 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 3: the coaches are in is something that strikes me, is 778 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 3: is meaningful. He gives the leadership board to it, and 779 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 3: I don't see any reason why you got to wear 780 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: a tracksuit when you're or stuff like that when you're coaching. 781 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 3: I just and that's just me. I tell you my 782 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 3: father was a butcher and they come home from the store. 783 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 3: He blood on his fingers because I think, whatever, you're 784 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 3: short of meat. He cut a finger and put it 785 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 3: in there. But he get home, you go starts to 786 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: a shower, and he come down for dinner with a 787 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 3: suit and shirt and tie on, eat dinner, then just 788 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 3: go walk around the bug and come back. And when 789 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 3: I was ten or twelve years old, I remember taking 790 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 3: me to what it was called the man store. So 791 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 3: what are we doing? He says, I have to buy 792 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 3: you a suit. You have to be and act like 793 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 3: a man. And so I grew up with that belief. 794 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 3: So I like it. I like the looks of it, 795 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 3: I like the r of it, and I do think 796 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 3: it really depicts the little leadership and gives give you 797 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 3: some something to get respect from. So I do miss 798 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 3: you know, the coaches and professional sports not addrusting like that. 799 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 2: That's a great background we were talking. Guardian and I 800 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 2: were talking earlier. 801 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: If you if you look at photos from especially baseball 802 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: when baseball was obviously bigger, if you go back, but 803 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: other sports too, you go back to photos where you 804 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: can see people in the crowd individually in the forties, fifties, 805 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: and even I think a decent amount of the sixties. 806 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 2: They're all dressed up. Now they may not all have 807 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 2: suits on, but a lot of the might have ties. 808 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: And the let's just say, the attire was a lot 809 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: more formal than it tends to be at a ball 810 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: game today. 811 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,959 Speaker 3: Lily, Oh, well, look at the wild Wild first got here. 812 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 3: And if you were sitting in the lower bowl, the 813 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 3: lower yeah, there was just a concourse in between everybody 814 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 3: with suits and ties and and uh, you know for 815 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 3: coats and stuff like that. And if you ever went 816 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 3: to Montreal or Drama you want to see mink coats, 817 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 3: they were all over the arena. That just was maybe 818 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 3: the time of the time. I still think it looks 819 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 3: so good. And I just you know, I just liked 820 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 3: that feeling. I just that's me, and I can understand. 821 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 2: That people respect I respect it. 822 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I just if you tell me, if I 823 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 3: say to you, Tom Landry, what are you going to 824 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 3: say right away? The way he looks and the pictures 825 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 3: take on. 826 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. 827 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just you know, so classy. I just 828 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 3: like it. 829 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, okoat, plus, well, think about it, if you had, 830 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: if you'd gone to run the Kings like you had 831 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: every chance to do back in the day, it could 832 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: have been like you and Ryles right going to fancy 833 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: Hollywood restaurants, both dressed to the nines. 834 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 2: Think about that. 835 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what it would have been. Because he 836 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 3: liked the dress up. I like the dressing. 837 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You guys are made for each other for sure. 838 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: Great stuff, and thank you again for the extra duty 839 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: on Sunday. It made the show much appreciated and we 840 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: will we will chat next week. 841 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good. Take care of you. 842 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 2: Guys, Thank you, Louis. Great stuff from Louie. 843 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 1: About to enter another hall of fame, the Minnesota Sports 844 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: High School League Hall of Fame, announcing the he that 845 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: Louie is a member of the class of two thousand 846 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 1: and twenty six. Top of the hour Pause don't forget. 847 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Seafort files a live report from guardzi's favorite city, Indianapolis, 848 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,280 Speaker 1: where the I guess the football all the big shots 849 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: in football have indeed assembled it is, indeed, it's right. 850 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: It's that time again, believe it or not, And before 851 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: you know it the draft will be right around the 852 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: corner