1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Day with confidence. Download the free weather Bug app from 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: the app Store now. It's currently snowing on my way 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: to work. And as much as I love you, John, 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: I definitely believe you. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: No, I don't want to brag, but you know, they 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: said this about a lot of things. 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: No as a president could do. 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: Some of the I'm doing. 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: No, No as a president. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: The things I'm doing, nobody else was gonna do it. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: They say it all the time, sir, could you do this? 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: You're the only one could do it. 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 4: Five thousand plus targets that the US has struck across Iran. 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 4: President Donald Trump yesterday holding a press conference in Florida. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 4: We'll have more audio from that later on in the show. Also, 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: the Pentagon is going to be giving an update on 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: Operation Epicsiria, which Trump says is going so well it 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 4: could be over soon. And although there's some conflicting messaging 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 4: regarding that, as Pete Hagg said, had said recently as 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 4: well that this may be going on for a little 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: while longer. So we'll dive into it on the show 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 4: this morning. My name is John Justice. I'm glad you're 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: with us on a Tuesday. Tuesday has a feel here 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty and one 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: O three five FM. I've got Sam in the Master 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: control booth next door. I did not change out my 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 4: floor match. You cannot blame me on the weather. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean you can. I'm still going to you go. 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: You know what you guys all do you It was 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: perfectly fine on the drive in this morning for me. 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't know about any of you guys. Yeah, I 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: didn't see any so at all. That was nice. That 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: was nice. 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: We'll see what happens throughout the throughout the day today. 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: Devide Gartzenstein Ross are AI analyst and expert. He'll be 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: joining us just after the bottom of the hour. The 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: Minnesota legislature, by part is an effort, by the way, 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: and I'm very curious to get David's thoughts on this. 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: They're working on some AI legislation. Very concerned about AI 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 4: and our children. Rather fiery words coming from dfller Aaron 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: may Quaid about you know again being you know, very 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 4: concerned about children's access and talking to chat GPT. 43 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: It's it's comical, it's comical. 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: I'll reserve my commentary regarding that until after we're done 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: getting the thoughts from David Gartenstein Ross on this legislation. 46 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: We'll talk a little bit about artificial intelligence and its 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: inclusion into the efforts of Operation Epic Theory when David 48 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: joins us. And there's already questions that are coming into 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio app this morning. If you have a question 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: for David, you can get those in it early to 51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio app. Those talkbacks are brought to you by 52 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: Lindahl Realty. You can also email me Justice at iHeartRadio 53 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: dot com and get those questions in with him as well. 54 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: Big Legislative session update, a lot of ground to cover. 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 4: Governor Tim Walls completely ghosted a fraud hearing that took 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: place yesterday, even though the individuals who were supposed to 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: be questioned within the Walls administration during the hearing that 58 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 4: didn't show up apparently ended up showing up to the 59 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: next hearing right afterwards. Like as the hearing ended and 60 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: you had the representatives leaving and the new representatives coming 61 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: in for the next hearing, there were the individuals that 62 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: were supposed to be in the previous hearing, they just 63 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: didn't bother to show up. Oh, and there's Democrats that 64 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: are out there proposing that you should have to pay 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: some three thousand dollars a year for your registration fees 66 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: because they want to be able to pay for roads 67 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: and stuff. 68 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: You can't make it up. 69 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: So I'll have audio to share regarding all of that 70 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: coming up next hour and in the eight o'clock hour 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: this morning, very busy show. Be on the lookout for 72 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: the Mandalorian and Boba Fette on the streets of Minneapolis. Okay, 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: not literally, oh maybe, but in the continued quest for 74 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: Democrats to exploit Operation Metro Surge to the best of 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 4: their example. Now they're worried about bounty hunters. They've moved 76 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 4: off of ICE since ICE is for the most part 77 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 4: left apart from those that are actually stationed here, and 78 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 4: now the concern is being drawn to bounty hunters that 79 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: could continue the work of immigrations and customs enforcement. 80 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Again, you cannot make this stuff up. So we'll get 81 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: into that coming up in the. 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 4: Eight o'clock hour, and Jim a Senator Jim Abler, we'll 83 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: be calling in just after eight thirty this morning. We 84 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: talked about a bill that he was introducing regarding disciplining 85 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: of our students in the classroom yesterday on the show, 86 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 4: So he is going to join us to talk a 87 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 4: little bit more about where that bill currently is during 88 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: the legislative session and whether or not it has a 89 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 4: chance of passing. So start here though, from the Daily Wire. 90 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: That clip you heard just before the intro was from 91 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: President Donald Trump and his press conference from Florida yesterday. 92 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Before returning to DC. 93 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: Brent crude, which is considered the international benchmark price point 94 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 4: for oil. 95 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you knew that, right, Sam, knew. 96 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: That had no idea that reached it nearly one hundred 97 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: and twenty dollars per barrel on Monday morning. The good 98 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: news is that ended up plummeting below ninety dollars in 99 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 4: the afternoon, and that was after President Donald Trump gave 100 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 4: another positive update on the war with Arod, which just 101 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 4: tells you how arbitrary the gas prices are. President says 102 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 4: one thing, they go up. President says another thing, they 103 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: go down. It's never changing. 104 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm just pointing it out. 105 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 4: The rapid drop in the US crewed late in the 106 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: day came, as Trump said, the war, which has lasted 107 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: for over a week, as I mentioned a moment ago, 108 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: is very far ahead of schedule after initially predicting a 109 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 4: four to two five week operation. 110 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: We're ahead of our initial timeline by a lot. I 111 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 3: would say that we probably would not have thought after 112 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: a month we'd be here. In addition to the fact 113 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: that we've taken out the leadership. 114 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: Twice and maybe three times, and we, as you know, 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: we want to be involved. 116 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: We don't want another president that maybe wouldn't be willing 117 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: to do what I'm willing to do for the good 118 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: of the world, for the good of our nation, to 119 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: be stuck with the situation in five years or ten 120 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: years from now. So we think they should put a 121 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: president in or the head of the country in this country. 122 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: So Trump also told CBS News that he was considering 123 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 4: taking control of the Straight of Ormus, the vital passage 124 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: between Iran and the UAE. We're around twenty percent of 125 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: the world's oil typically traversus each day. And as I mentioned, 126 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 4: we have a Pentagon press briefing coming up at the 127 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 4: seven o'clock. 128 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: We'll try to bring you some of that live. 129 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: I have more comments from President Donald Trump this press 130 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: conference yesterday regarding Operation Epic Fury, the third government shutdown 131 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 4: in six months, is leaving tsa agent scrambling once again, 132 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: and with the increased threat of Iranian sleeper cells in 133 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: the United States, it really highlights the danger the Democrats 134 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: continue to put the American public in over incredibly trite issues. 135 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: I have audio to Sheriff Hakeem Jeffries as well that 136 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 4: we'll get into ahead of my conversation with Devin gartan 137 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 4: Stein Ross's we talk artificial intelligence again. Get your questions 138 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: in for DEVI to early Justice at iHeartRadio dot com 139 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: orlead those talkbacks on the iHeart Radio app lots to 140 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: dive into on the show today. 141 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're with us. Do not go anywhere. 142 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 4: You're listening to Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty 143 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: and one oh three five FM. Good morning, and I 144 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: love your show. 145 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: All lying at the bottom of the ocean forty six ships? 146 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: Can you believe it? 147 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: In fact, I got a little upset without pople I said, 148 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: what quality of ship? Excellencer top of the line, I said, 149 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: why didn't we just capture the ship? 150 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: We're going to use it? 151 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: Why did we sink him? They said it's more fun 152 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: to sink him. He said, that's a They like sinking 153 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: a better. They say it's safer to sink him. I 154 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: guess it's probably true, but think of it. 155 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: We knocked out forty six. 156 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: It actually took three and a half days. 157 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: The terrorist leaders. 158 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: I UH will continue to say this and President Donald 159 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 4: Trump does not get enough credit for his sense of humor. Yesterday, 160 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 4: he didn't say exactly when Operation Epic Fury would end, 161 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: but during remarks to Republican lawmakers in Doral, Florida, Monday afternoon, 162 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: he said the military will not relent until the enemy 163 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: is totally and decisively defeated. US forces have decimated the 164 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: Iranian Navy military key capabilities in the joint US Israeli 165 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: strikes killed or on Supreme Leader Ali Kamani. His son 166 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: has now taken over, so the clock is ticking on 167 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: that individual currently for him. 168 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: To get the Congressional Medal of Honor. They didn't want 169 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: to stand for him. There's something wrong with those people, 170 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: and we can't let them ever be in a. 171 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: Position where. 172 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: They can lead this country again or destroy this country again. 173 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: Because we almost lost this country. 174 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: This country was close to being lost. 175 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: The representatives in this room provided the pivotal votes in 176 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: securing a record one trillion dollars for the United States 177 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: military this year, and now the world is witnessing the 178 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 3: importance of that investment with one of the most complex 179 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: and stunning operations ever can Yeah. 180 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: President Donald Trump yesterday had some very specific remarks regarding 181 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: the Senate GOP the Save America Act. We'll talk about 182 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 4: that in or detail next hour. Let's get to a 183 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: few if your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app this morning, 184 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: and the talkback's brought to you by Lindahl Realty. 185 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: MEI Learning, John and Sam Ard. Tis very shut. 186 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: It's just nothing where the scam all of our guess 187 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 5: prices going up as they are. 188 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: It is greedy oil companies. 189 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 6: And then regarding these tab. 190 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Prices that they want to increase here in Minnesota, maybe 191 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: we just. 192 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 6: Have a statewide boycott of not paying tabs. 193 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: What are they going to do? 194 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 4: Well, they'll hold people accountable, especially if you don't vote 195 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: for the DFL, and boycotts rarely work. 196 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: I understand what it is that. 197 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: You're driving at and I think you were being more 198 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: sarcastic than anything else. We will get into that issue 199 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: next hour because there's a there's a component to this 200 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: where on the one hand, you have Democrats that want 201 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 4: to exponentially increase your registration fees the tabs on your car, 202 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: while there are others that are proposing that we do 203 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: not require drivers to put new tabs on their vehicle. 204 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: You still need to register your vehicle. 205 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 4: But what they want to do is they want to 206 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: take away the requirement that the tabs on your vehicle 207 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 4: show that you're updated. 208 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 209 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 4: Well, it's as stupid as it sounds. It's catering to 210 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: Democrat voters blatantly. So that'll come up in the seven 211 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: o'clock hour this morning here on Twin City's News Talk More. 212 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: John. 213 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 7: This is in the first time we've dealt with higher 214 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 7: energy costs as far as crude oil. And I'm guessing 215 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 7: that everybody listening doesn't stop driving their car because gas 216 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 7: went up fifty sixty a dollar cents a gallon, because 217 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 7: that's how crude oil operates in this world. 218 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: With the Middle East back. 219 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 7: At seventy four to seventy five, daylight savings time started 220 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 7: in January because of the energy crisis, y'all, remember we 221 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 7: were running out of crude oil. 222 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: How'd that work out for us? There is still relative calm. 223 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: Thank you for the talkback there, Scott working off a 224 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: story from Carolevin. There is still relative calm before the 225 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 4: annual Spring Break travel storm descends upon MSP, But when 226 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: the volume of travelers does hit its peak in the 227 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 4: weeks ahead, TSA agents are putting out a simple message. 228 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: Neil Gosman, a TSA agent, said, we would hope that 229 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 4: people going to spring Break have a good time and 230 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 4: stay safe. But you got to remember that there are 231 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: people working here to try and make that happen for you, 232 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 4: and we are not being kept safe now. Gosman is 233 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: a Vietnam VET, so the desire to keep a people 234 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 4: safe led him to begin serving the TSA back in 235 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: two thousand and four, stating that my youngest daughter was 236 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: in New York during nine to eleven. She was on 237 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: the ground above, She was above the ground train and 238 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 4: she saw the plane hit the second tower. 239 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: That's my motive. 240 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: Despite the many improvements in security since then, he says, 241 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: TSA agents are now facing a different kind of risk. 242 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 4: This is the third shutdown in six months. 243 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: He said. 244 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: People have to pay childcare, people have to pay rent. 245 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: A lot of the landlords are saying we forgave rent 246 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: for being late last time. We're not going to do 247 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: it again. In the meantime, Democrats are not even hiding 248 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: why they're keeping the government shut down. You've got the 249 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: US intercepting in cryptocommunications believed to have originated from Iran 250 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: that may serve as an operational trigger for sleeper assets 251 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 4: outside the country, according to a federal government alert assent 252 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 4: to law enforcement agencies yesterday. I want to give you 253 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: a few more details on this, but in light of this, 254 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: you've got spring break TSA, You've got active potential sleeper cells, 255 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: and yet the Democrats continue to keep this portion of 256 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: the government shut down, and Hakeem Jeffries states pointedly why 257 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 4: they are doing it, not even hiding. 258 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: Why they're keeping the government shut. 259 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 8: Down completely and totally out of control group of people. 260 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 8: It's the reason why we are in a DHS shutdown 261 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 8: right now, because Republicans have refused to agree to the 262 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 8: type of bold, transformative, meaningful, and dramatic reforms we are 263 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 8: demanding in order for the Department of Homeland Security funding 264 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 8: bill to move forward. And I won't go through all 265 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 8: of the demands, much of which we've talked about repeatedly 266 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 8: in the public, but one of those demands is keep 267 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 8: Ice out of sensitive locations, and we've defined that as schools, 268 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 8: houses of worship, hospitals, and polling sites. We want an 269 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 8: explicit prohibition that ice can go nowhere near any polling 270 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 8: sites any United States of America. 271 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: It's one of our demands. We're not going to bend 272 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: on it. 273 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: And as many people have stated, the Republicans have said, 274 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: the only reason why you wouldn't want that is because 275 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: you want to enable those that are here illegally to vote. 276 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: All that being said, that is a completely concocted, made 277 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: up excuse. We just don't want ice at our polling places, 278 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 4: even though the federal government has given no indication that 279 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: that would be the case. But I'm also with the 280 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: federal government saying that. 281 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: No, we're not going to agree to that. 282 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 4: We don't know the circumstances behind which that would take place. 283 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: I totally understand the Trump administration and the Republicans point 284 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: on that, But you know, maybe right now, with everybody 285 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 4: going on spring break travel season kicking up potential active 286 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: sleeper cells inside the United States, maybe now is not 287 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: the best time to keep the DHS. 288 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: Shut down. 289 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: The intercepted transmission was encoded and appeared to be destined 290 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: for clandestine recipients who possessed the encryption key. The alert 291 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: reviewed by ABC News detail the kind of message intended 292 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 4: to impart instructions to convert operatives or sleeper assets without 293 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: the use of Internet or cellular networks. 294 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: And I just need to state again that the ICE 295 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: is already funded. 296 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: The Democrats just arbitrarily picked the DHS because they knew 297 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: that they could use it as an excuse, and they 298 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: initially we're using this as a pushback against immigrations and 299 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: customs enforcement again even though it has no impact on 300 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: that whatsoever. And now they're stuck on these ridiculous arguments 301 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: of well, we just want them to agree not to 302 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: put ICE agents at polling places. It's all just so 303 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: stupid and unnecessary and incredibly dangerous as well. David Gartzenstein 304 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: or Ross will join us next. The Iran War heralds 305 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: an era of AI powered bombing quicker than the speed 306 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 4: of thought. We'll find out what AI brain fray is. 307 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: And Minnesota lawmakers introducing AI regulations aimed at protecting children 308 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 4: curtailing surveillance just a few of the topics we have 309 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 4: planned to talk about with David Gartenstein, Roswell we'll kick 310 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 4: things off with your questions for the CEO of Expert 311 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 4: Theory and our AI expert and analyst David Next. 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Well, thank you, John, I appreciate that end's 328 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: back on Thursday. 329 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: And I also include in that mix. 330 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 4: Devid Gartenstein Ross are AI expert and analyst CEO at 331 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: Expert Theory. 332 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: Good morning, Devid. How are we doing this morning? I'm 333 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: doing well, John, It's great to join you as always. 334 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: Do you have out of curiosity? 335 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: Do you have an individual or a team at Expert 336 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: Theory whose job it is is to just track the 337 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: advancements in AI. I guess a better way to probably 338 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: ask that question is how do you handle the rapid 339 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 4: advancement of AI as it relates to the work that 340 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 4: you do over at Expert Theory. 341 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 9: A couple things first, I'm lucky to have a really 342 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 9: great chief Technology officer who specialized is an AI, and 343 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 9: so I've been able to watch as he put into 344 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 9: effect a lot of things that are far ahead of 345 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 9: the curve. He used AI to completely change the language 346 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 9: of our code base, long before you know AI coding 347 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 9: had been part of mainstream discussions. The other thing is 348 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 9: is I use AI, you know, many times a day, 349 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 9: and so often I'm able to get my own sense 350 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 9: of how models are changing. Those are the two main 351 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 9: ways that I stay on top of it. 352 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 4: We have a lot of questions that have already come 353 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: into the iHeartRadio app, and I want to get to those. 354 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: Let's start here. 355 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: I've got a couple of different stories that we plan 356 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: on talking about this morning. We'll see how things run 357 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 4: in terms of the time that we that we have. 358 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: We are planning on carrying the Pentagon press briefing regarding 359 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 4: Operation Epic Theory at the at the top of the 360 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: hour to give everybody an update on what's going on. 361 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 4: I imagine we'll hear some secretary of warpeede exeth. There's 362 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 4: a piece out of The Guardian that I pulled for 363 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 4: our conversation today talking about AI powered bombing quicker than 364 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: the speed of thought. 365 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: A couple of things in this I wanted to throw 366 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: at you. 367 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 4: It says in the piece academics studying the field say 368 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: AI is collapsing the planning time required for complex strikes. 369 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 4: Some fear that could result in human military and legal 370 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 4: experts merely rubber stamping automated strike plans. 371 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: Let me stop here really quick. 372 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: How do you feel about, you know, that thought about 373 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: the fears of removing the human element in the wake 374 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 4: of the advancements in AI and how they're being used. 375 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 4: We talk about this quite a bit, but your thoughts on. 376 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 9: That, I think that they're real and it's happening. I mean, 377 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 9: as with a lot of things, you know, there are 378 00:20:54,920 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 9: two sides to whether this is good. It allow war 379 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 9: to be made more efficiently. But generally speaking, I think 380 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 9: as people, you know, even if you're more hawkish, that's 381 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 9: not a positive thing on the whole right, Like, it's 382 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 9: not just the US. 383 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: It's going to make war more quickly. 384 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 9: Everybody will be able to and it makes decisions come 385 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 9: much more more, much more rapidly. 386 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: So you know, I haven't been. 387 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 9: Like weighing in on the Iran war written large for 388 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 9: a wide variety of reasons, equity, that's not my lane anymore. 389 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 9: But I think one thing one can do is compare 390 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 9: the lead up to the Iran War with the lead 391 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 9: up to the Iraq war, right with the Iraq War, 392 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 9: and they're very different wars. 393 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: Right, the Iran War is going to be over. 394 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 9: You know, we don't know how long it will go, 395 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 9: but it will certainly be over by the end of April. 396 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 9: I think that it is inconceivable that we would still 397 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 9: be bombing on May first, and you can mark my 398 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 9: words on that. But for a rock, you had months 399 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 9: and months of debate, Like you know, by the time 400 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 9: the US went in, the case had been made thoroughly. 401 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 9: It's a case that ultimately is you know, like I 402 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 9: disagreed with and fully stand by that, but like the 403 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 9: case had been made thoroughly. Here, you know, we wake 404 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 9: up in February twenty eighth and suddenly bombing had started 405 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 9: at three am, very sudden, and that's an indication. 406 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: That the way we're going to war has changed. 407 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 9: I think in part due to AI right, in part 408 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 9: due to the fact that war plans don't take as 409 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 9: long to formulate. It collapses public cases, and again there's 410 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 9: there's other aspects to it, but I think on the 411 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 9: whole it makes going to war more of a snap decision, 412 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 9: which isn't on the whole good news for civilians. 413 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: This is more of just an observation. 414 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 4: I'm just curious to get your thoughts and then we'll 415 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: dive into some of these some of these questions that 416 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 4: have rolled into the to the heart radio out this morning. 417 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: But in this Guardian piece, Craig Jones, a senior lecturer 418 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 4: in political geography at Newcastle University and an expert on 419 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: in kill chains, He talks about the AI machine is 420 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 4: making recommendations for what to target. Goes on to say, 421 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 4: you've got scale, you've got speed. You're carrying out the 422 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 4: assassination style strikes at the same time that you are 423 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 4: decapitating the regime's ability to respond with the aerio ballistic 424 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: missiles that might have taken days or weeks in historic wars. 425 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: Now you're doing everything at once. It goes on to say, 426 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 4: the latest AI systems can rapidly analyze mountains of information 427 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 4: on potential targets, from drone footage to telecommunications interceptors, as 428 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 4: well as human intelligence. And again just an observation Devide. 429 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 4: It's fascinating to me because all of this reminds me 430 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: of Wopper from Wargames, and it's incredible that you have 431 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 4: this very outdated yet classic ades science fiction film where 432 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 4: in the finale you have Wopper running through all of 433 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: the available scenarios of geo thermonuclear war and it's almost, 434 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: you know, akin to what we are seeing now in 435 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 4: the way that AI is being utilized in this current 436 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: current conflict. I just thought it was an interesting observation. 437 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: Do you have any further further thoughts on this piece 438 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: of useless trivia? 439 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 9: I mean, I like it, but it also shows you 440 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 9: just how far supercomputers have advanced. Right in war games, 441 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 9: you know, it takes the computer, you know, in movie 442 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 9: time at the very least like minutes to figure out 443 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 9: that you can't win Tiktac two, right, right, Really, that's 444 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 9: a big revelation at the end, right that you can't 445 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 9: win tiktac two, right, Like any algorithmic computer now would 446 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 9: realize that in a fraction of a second, like. 447 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: Even humans can figure that out. 448 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 9: So so yeah, I like the analog, and I like 449 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 9: the analog in part because it shows you how far 450 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 9: computers have come. 451 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: Right. The other big revelation war games, of course, being. 452 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 9: That nobody wins right in a global thermonuclear war, which true, 453 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 9: a true b doesn't take a supercomputer to figure that out. 454 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? 455 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: Can you envision a scenario where AIS we're running through 456 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 4: these these scenarios in terms of these military operations, and 457 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: it stops and goes, maybe a guy shouldn't be doing 458 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 4: that doing this, I mean that would require a level 459 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 4: of AI reaching that sentient. 460 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 9: Well, it doesn't dumb, right, like you can actually like 461 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 9: anyone can test this right, Like one of the things 462 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 9: people tend to use AI for is to draft emails. 463 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 9: For anyone who does that for AI, you should actually 464 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 9: you tell your AI or send it as a default 465 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 9: within your your GPT to make the AI tell you 466 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 9: if an email is a bad idea, it will do so, right, 467 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 9: like it's more than capable of doing so. About wars 468 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 9: and war scenarios, and that actually should be a default 469 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 9: that's embedded right, Like it should be asked not just 470 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 9: to execute tasks, but to provide a recommendation as to 471 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 9: what a command is a bad idea in my opinion, 472 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 9: and like it's actually very good at that at sussing 473 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 9: out when an email probably shouldn't be sent. 474 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 4: I made a suggestion like this of going back. It's 475 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: probably well over a year ago talking about online engagement, 476 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 4: and I wish there was a function at the time. 477 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: This is what I had said. 478 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: I wish there was a function on X where when 479 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 4: you go to post something in automatically defaults to like 480 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 4: a ten minute wait, so you can just so you 481 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 4: can decide, you know, give yourself. I'm gonna post this, 482 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: but it's gonna wait for ten minutes. Then it'll give 483 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: me an alert saying are you sure you want to 484 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: post this? And it's along the same lines of what 485 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 4: you of what you mentioned. Now we could be at 486 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: a point where you could have the AI embedded grock 487 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 4: embedded with an X going are you sure you want 488 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 4: comment this way? 489 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: I would I would be in support of that. Yeah, 490 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: you'll probably erect your career. 491 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 4: This could end up losing You could end up losing 492 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 4: your job if you go and stay this right now, 493 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 4: listen along the same lines of what you were just 494 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: talking about. Let's go to the iHeartRadio app. I got 495 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: a talk back similar to the conversation that we're currently 496 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 4: on with CEO and expert theory de Vid Gartzenstein Ross. 497 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, John David. 498 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 10: Hey, I've got a little issue with uh with GROC. 499 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: I recently gave it a voice. 500 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 10: And it was a voice of an English woman and sold. 501 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: About two or three hours later. 502 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 10: I went back to GROC and asked something else and 503 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 10: it was a different woman's voice, not English this time, 504 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 10: and I asked it why it changed its accent, and 505 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 10: it swore to me it did not, And then the 506 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 10: next day it had the English accent again. 507 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: Does it messing with me? Def do you haven't answered that? 508 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: It's a great question. 509 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 9: This voice problem is actually and I've found in multiple 510 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 9: places where it's hard to change a voice default as 511 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 9: sometimes the voice will shift without you intending it to. 512 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 9: If you listen carefully, if you talk a lot to 513 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 9: your LLM, once in a while, you'll see that it'll 514 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 9: shift between male and female voices. So I think voice 515 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 9: is simply a feature which is not as advanced and 516 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 9: which is still pretty buggy compared to others. 517 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 4: You would think, I would well, again, you wouldn't almost 518 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 4: speak for me. I would think that that would be 519 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 4: something rather simple. 520 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: That wouldn't that wouldn't happen. 521 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: I mean, given the complexity of which you know, AI 522 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 4: can go and execute certain things, something like that seems 523 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: incredibly trivial that it wouldn't remain consistent. 524 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the trivial things. 525 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 9: It doesn't mean it's necessarily going to be solved, because 526 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 9: it's all about whether the features have been implemented. So 527 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 9: like AI is very easy, Like the voice is very 528 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 9: easy to implement. The issue is that a feature that 529 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 9: generally hasn't been enabled for most large language models is 530 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 9: the ability to listen effectively to speech outside of voice mode. 531 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 9: That's just something that who knows why it hasn't been implemented. 532 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 9: Part of it might just be the expense of doing so. 533 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 9: But like, that's something that generally hasn't been enabled, and 534 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 9: so it's difficult for your LLM to listen to itself 535 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 9: and understand what voice is speaking. Very easy to solve, right, Like, 536 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 9: it's just a matter of building the features. But one 537 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 9: thing that I've learned running a tech company, there's a 538 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 9: lot of things like the Providence platform is great. I 539 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 9: love our core product. There's a lot of things I 540 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 9: would like it to be able to do that are 541 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 9: technically feasible and not hard to do, where it's just 542 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 9: a matter of spending the money and getting it done. 543 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: Let's go back to the iHeartRadio app as we continue 544 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: our discussion with David Gartenstein. 545 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 6: Ross a question for David with what may seem like 546 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 6: an unrelated set up. When having Second Amendment debates, people 547 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 6: sometimes say, well where does it end? 548 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: Do you want everyday. 549 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 6: Citizens to have access to nuclear weapons? Similarly, every conversation 550 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 6: I hear about artificial intelligence, even the people develop against 551 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 6: say there's a reasonable chance humanity could be wiped out, 552 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 6: and yet it's. 553 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: Full speed ahead. 554 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 6: Am I missing something or is this utterly insane? 555 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's relatively insane, yeah, is my answer. 556 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 9: The big thing that I think the listener may be missing, 557 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 9: which doesn't make it not insane, is that AI is 558 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 9: at the heart of the race between the US and 559 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 9: China geopolitically, and so the fact is that no amount 560 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 9: of Western AI regulation will actually stop this race towards superintelligence. 561 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: So it's kind of this AI. 562 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 9: Arms race where an unfortunate side effect is that humanity 563 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 9: may get in by robots. 564 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: In the process. 565 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 9: Like it's insane, is the best way to describe it, 566 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 9: to be honest. 567 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: All right, let's get out. This is interesting. I have 568 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 4: a talk back that rolled inn. It's similar to a 569 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: question that I was going to post to you because 570 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: in that Guardian story it talks about Ran potentially having 571 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 4: its own version of AI that it might have been 572 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: utilizing it. It reminded me quite a bit de beat of 573 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 4: the early conversations that we've had regarding artificial intelligence and 574 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 4: the competition that we've seen of different platforms in different 575 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 4: countries that are trying to get ahead and lead the 576 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: way regarding AI. 577 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: Let's go to the iHeartRadio app here. 578 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 5: If AI can help us figure out our worst strategy, 579 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 5: then couldn't it also help our enemies figure out what 580 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 5: our worst strategy is so they can better defend or 581 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 5: event go on the offense. 582 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 9: Dev Yeah, the answeraps And this is why when when 583 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 9: you asked me about it, in no way it was 584 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 9: by view raw ra we have AI dominance. It was Like, 585 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 9: the very first thing that I said was, you know, 586 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 9: I'm not saying this is a good development in a 587 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 9: sense that you know it's not. You know, the US 588 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 9: is going to use this, Our adversaries are going to 589 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 9: use this, and AI gaps are very low. Right, Like, 590 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 9: while if you look in the post Cold War era, 591 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 9: do you the US have this massive military dominance, we 592 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 9: still do relative to the world, even relative to China. 593 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 9: So there's a lot of areas where China does have 594 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 9: military advantage over US, but like on AI, we do 595 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 9: not have an advantage, any sort of measurably huge advantage 596 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 9: over our adversaries. So the answer here is absolutely yes. 597 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 9: It's something that our enemies will use as well, and 598 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 9: they already are. 599 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 11: Question for divide if he could only use one AI 600 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 11: chat for the rest of his life, which one would 601 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 11: it be, Why? 602 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: And what settings would he change? 603 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 9: Oh? 604 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: I love it so for the rest of my life. 605 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 9: It's me projecting forward which one I think is going 606 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 9: to end up winning out? 607 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: I think I would. 608 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 9: I would choose chat GPT that I still think it's 609 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 9: its best position to win, though I think Claude's models 610 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 9: are currently better. But I would use it just because 611 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 9: I think there's so much resources behind chat GPT that 612 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 9: is going to remain one of the best, if not 613 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 9: the best, of the large language models. Defaults that I 614 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 9: would change, you know, I ask it to I would 615 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 9: ask it to be blunt with me. I'd ask it 616 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 9: to tell me when I when it thinks I'm making 617 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 9: a mistake. I'd ask it to be less sycophantic, not zero, 618 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 9: because like I think we could all use a cheerleader 619 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 9: in our life, even if it's an AI. 620 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: But those are the main changes I would make. 621 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 9: Oh and one other thing I like to do, and 622 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 9: I think it actually makes a difference, is I ask 623 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 9: the AI to, you know, either be as smart as 624 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 9: possible or to replicate genius levels of thought, which I 625 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 9: think in subtle ways causes it to up its game. 626 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 4: We're going to I'm going to stick a pin in 627 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 4: our AI brain fry story. We can save that one, 628 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: hopefully for next week. Let's turn our attention over to schools. 629 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 4: Got to talk back that role then, And I want 630 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 4: to touch upon this article that I'll be discussing further 631 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 4: on today's show. A bipartisan group of Minnesota lawmakers put 632 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 4: forth a package of bills aimed at regulating artificial intelligence 633 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 4: in Minnesota. The package of five bills targets key areas 634 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: of AI regulation, prohibiting the use of artificial intelligence and 635 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 4: health insurance decisions, Barring children's access to chatlock chatbots, blocking 636 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 4: the use of AI to set product prices in real time, 637 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: mandating disclosure when consumers interact with AI. Banning government and 638 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 4: surveillance through reverse keyword and reverse location services. Now there's 639 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot that we could unpack, and 640 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 4: we don't have a ton of time on this. I'm 641 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,479 Speaker 4: just curious you're your overall view of when you see 642 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 4: lawmakers wanting to go in and put regulations on artificial 643 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 4: intelligence over concerns of the influence that it could have 644 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 4: on children. 645 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 9: For that particular issue, influence on children absolutely, right, Like 646 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 9: anybody with kids, you can already see how social media 647 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 9: has really changed what childhood means in generally in ways 648 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 9: that are pernicious. 649 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 12: Right. 650 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 9: I can't think of a lot of good that has 651 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 9: come from the proliferation of social media and the amount 652 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 9: of social pressures that it causes. 653 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: I think that probably if we're to do a. 654 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 9: Study, we could link some non zero number of deaths 655 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 9: per year by suicide and other means to social media. 656 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 9: I think that's probably uncontroversial, and you for AI. The 657 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 9: implications of AI are going to be even more profound 658 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 9: in numerous ways. We just to name one which is 659 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 9: a humiliating thing that we did not have to deal 660 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 9: with growing up. It would be a revenge porn that's 661 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 9: done by AI. We've seen that already happen. So I 662 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 9: definitely think that you know, kids are vulnerable, right like anybody, 663 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 9: Like anybody like we've all been kids, and anybody who 664 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 9: is of adult age understands just how much more fragile 665 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 9: you are as a kid. There's a reason we try 666 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 9: to protect our children. And so whether or not I 667 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 9: agree with the specifics of this, I think that regulation 668 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 9: designed to protect kids is a positive thing. 669 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 1: We should have it in place for AI. Let's wrap 670 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: on this question from a friend of the show, Rob. 671 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 12: Good Morning, John and David Rob from Na Lakes. So 672 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 12: I'm a teacher and my question about AI is I 673 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 12: understand these companies need to make money, but why does 674 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 12: it seem like everything is so expensive. I've been using 675 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 12: an app called Base forty four to make games for 676 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 12: my students. 677 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: But it just is not worth my money. 678 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 12: And also he's going to be around five ten years later. 679 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 12: Am I going to be able to use them constantly? Thanks? 680 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: Guys, have a good day. 681 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 4: Maybe he should check out Expert Theory in the games 682 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 4: that you guys got to dead your thoughts on that. 683 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 9: And we've actually put our and we've actually put our 684 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 9: platform for free at to some Minnesota schools. So if 685 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 9: Rob wants to reach out through you, I'd be happy 686 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 9: to you know, let him try out our platform, which 687 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 9: is not expensive. 688 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: Like the goal that. 689 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 9: We have is to make games widely accessible at a 690 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 9: price everybody can afford. So my answer would be, look 691 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 9: for any company, why are they charging a lot? It's 692 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 9: often because it cost them a lot to develop the product. 693 00:37:54,520 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 9: I understand that, but ultimately I think that for me, 694 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 9: the reason I started this company as well as my 695 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 9: first one, was to do something good and you know, 696 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 9: for high schools, making your product accessible I think is 697 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 9: the best thing that you can do for people. 698 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 4: If anybody wants that information, email me Justice at iHeartRadio 699 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 4: dot com, Justice at iHeartRadio dot com and I will 700 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 4: forward that over to TV the CEO at Expert Theory. 701 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 4: As always, time flies when we have you on. I 702 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 4: appreciate your insight and hopefully we'll talk again next week. 703 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: My friend Hi quest John look forward to it coming up. 704 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: Walls and Administration Ghosts. 705 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 4: The fraud hearing in Saint Paul during the legislative session yesterday, 706 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 4: even though the people that were supposed to show up 707 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 4: ended up showing up to the hearing right afterwards. Have 708 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 4: a lot of audio to share. First off, though, we'll 709 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 4: get you updated on Operation Epic Fury. The Pentagon is 710 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 4: about to hold a press conference and we'll bring that 711 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 4: to you live here on Twin City's News Talk AM 712 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 4: eleven thirty and one oh three five f M.