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Speaker 1: those people definitely. As I start tonight's show. First off,

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to my beautiful bride christ to two point zero.

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Speaker 1: It's today, and of course she woke up yesterday morning.

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Speaker 1: And then it's cold outside and but anyway, my love,

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Speaker 1: a happy, happy birthday. We're gonna make it as great

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Speaker 1: first up tonight, I had an interview with a guy

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Speaker 1: named Patrick Dorenson that I was going to run last

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Speaker 1: I don't know last week. It never got on the

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Speaker 1: going to air my complete interview with the common Sense Cowboy,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Dorenson's to start tonight's show, and I think you're

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Speaker 1: on the subject of these deep Blue cities and how

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Speaker 1: they are moving us closer and closer and closer to communism,

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Speaker 1: and how people are moving out of them because they

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Speaker 1: like freedom.

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Speaker 1: Robert Ehringer, who knows very well Prince Albert of Monaco,

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Speaker 1: more on the Epstein scandal. As we continue on this

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Speaker 1: night cap, Jim Ornacy will chime in previewing tomorrow night's

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Speaker 1: State of the Union address with President Trump and the

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Speaker 1: wild Man. Before we're done, but Patrick Dorenson and The

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Speaker 1: This opportunity to have this guy on the show tonight,

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Speaker 1: author of The Common Sense Cowboys Guide to Life. He

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Speaker 1: wrote it with a guy named Matthew Klickstein or Klickstein,

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Speaker 1: and it is a chance to sit and basically learn

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Speaker 1: what Patrick is willing to tell you about his seventy

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Speaker 4: No, I stopped doing the radio show. Oh gosh, how

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Speaker 4: many years ago? You know, when you get to my age,

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Speaker 4: Looking at other things and I stopped doing it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you just told me that you just

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Speaker 1: got new shoes for your horse. So I'm interrupting important

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, he's fine, and he just stands there anyways,

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Speaker 4: And when's this thing going to be over?

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Speaker 5: So no, I've got plenty of time.

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Speaker 1: So the common sense, cowboy, the guide to life, the

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Speaker 1: seventy years of life stories, a couple of insights, maybe

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Speaker 4: And you know, in my day, Gary, I probably hung

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Speaker 4: It made you think and how you were going to

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Speaker 4: You know, this country's gotten away from talking to each other.

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Speaker 1: I am also a bartender. I've been a bartender at

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Speaker 1: That's the common bond right there, is that most people

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Speaker 4: They don't care about you, so why should you care

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Speaker 4: If you can't trust the people that we elect to

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Speaker 5: In God? We trust and we should also trust in

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Speaker 4: We've lost the basics because we've used a lot of

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Speaker 1: Everything breaks not gonna happen everything breaks sooner or later,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know when I say that about fixing things,

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Speaker 4: Go out into the world and if something breaks, fix it.

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Speaker 2: You've got to.

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Speaker 1: This, you know what, just may be the most important

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Speaker 1: that I've read down through so far. Talking to Patrick Dordanson,

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Speaker 1: the Common Sense Cowboy, author of the Common Sense Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Guide for Life, the measure of a man is when

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: The only people that know are you and God, and

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Speaker 1: There's no question about that. What I look forward to

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Speaker 1: to cracking into this. It's out now, Yes it is.

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Speaker 4: And if you go to my website, Patrickdornson dot com

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Speaker 4: you can purchase it there. It's available on Amazon, Barnes

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Speaker 4: it's and to be honest, Gary, I also want to

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Speaker 4: trying to you know, apprentice at jobs, the ones that

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Speaker 4: Say you know something, you don't have to get off

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're ever in the area of northern Kentucky Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: How about you?

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Speaker 5: I will I want to come see the Bengals, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, hopefully hopefully they can fix what's broken there.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Torrenson, The Common Sense Cowboy and The Common Sense

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Guide for Life. Man, I'm looking forward to cracking

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Speaker 1: into that thing. Thank you so much, sir, you bet,

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Speaker 1: thank you Grey all right, Rock and roll archaeology is

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Speaker 1: coming up right after the news at ten o'clock again.

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Speaker 3: That was Patrick Dorenson from last week.

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Speaker 1: Actually, up next is Dennis Neil on The flight from

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Speaker 1: Oregon Oregoners rather and Oregoners is well, you guessed it.

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Speaker 8: It's great to talk to Gary or Jeff or Walker.

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Speaker 8: I like the three names. I wish i'd done that.

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Speaker 8: That's distinctive, and thanks so much for having me on.

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Speaker 8: We live in interesting times, as the old curse goes,

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Speaker 8: doesn't it. I'm sitting here down in South Florida looking

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Speaker 2: So the living is easy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've got my youngest brother, my baby brother, is

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Speaker 2: Wherever we are.

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Speaker 8: But I never did adjust that, even after forty years

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Speaker 8: I never did adjust to that cold. It's just so bitter.

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Speaker 8: I'd rather be hot than cold, and cold kills far

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Speaker 8: Dennis, Well, it extends, it extends the period of growing,

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Speaker 8: What's bugging Me? That's the name of my podcast, and

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: And certainly, yeah, and certainly, as they say with air quotes,

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Speaker 1: college educated or indoctrinated, as the case may be.

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Speaker 2: Aren't we seeing today?

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Speaker 8: Indeed, the outcome of thirty years of college kind of

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Speaker 8: churning out brainwashed liberals, liberal students, and they stay that

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Speaker 8: way for years to come. There was that old saying

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Speaker 8: right that, hey, if you're a conservative in your twenties,

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Speaker 8: you've got no heart. If you're a liberal in your forties,

447
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Speaker 8: you've got no brain. But these people liberal forever. I mean,

448
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Speaker 8: there's so many grow, fully grown men who are so

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Speaker 8: liberal now. And that's just the conditioning and the training

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Speaker 8: and the teaching. And I gave a lecture a year

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Speaker 8: ago in New York to a journalism class, and I

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Speaker 8: was stunned to be told that they're journalism teachers. Professors

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Speaker 8: are letting them know that there are certain issues that

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Speaker 8: you don't cover all sides or both sides, because there's

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Speaker 8: only one, you know, right side, and climate change is

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Speaker 8: one of those. How dare you cover I mean the

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Speaker 8: LA Times came out and said, oh, we're going to

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Speaker 8: ban any letters or off ense questioning climate change. I mean,

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Speaker 8: just awful when the whole idea of the free press

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Speaker 8: and freedom of speech is to encourage more debate and

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Speaker 8: more information and more contradictory and debating information.

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Speaker 2: Not less.

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Speaker 8: But we see the Democrats now. I'm sorry to philibuster.

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Speaker 8: I apologize. I've had too much caffeine. You know, we're

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Speaker 8: not going to the State of the Union address.

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Speaker 2: We're not going We're.

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Speaker 7: Going to shut it out. We're not going to listen

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Speaker 7: to it because it might hurt us in some way.

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Speaker 1: Those babies, let's talk about and I love you finishing

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Speaker 1: that that whole little uh eskape there with babies, because

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Speaker 1: you said, we've got grown men who are acting like babies. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: when when people say okay, the adults are in the room,

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Speaker 1: it usually means that the leftists have left or been

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Speaker 1: shown their come up. And you know, with just facts

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Speaker 1: and just common sense. You mentioned mom Donnie, Calm, Mom Donnie,

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Speaker 1: and baby yeah boy. His first test with a snowstorm

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Speaker 1: did not go so well. The streets didn't get plowed.

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Speaker 1: I guess they were proactive this time.

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Speaker 7: You know, I had worse than plowing my friend.

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Speaker 2: It's so much worse to me.

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Speaker 8: I lived in New York, in Brooklyn, in the same

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Speaker 8: six block area for forty three years, and in all

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Speaker 8: of my time there, never did I ever hear of

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Speaker 8: eighteen homeless people dying and freezing to death on the

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Speaker 8: streets and a winter storm. And this guy told the

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Speaker 8: police apparently, don't round him up. They have the freedom

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Speaker 8: in bodily autonomy. Basically it's their choice. Well, that was

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Speaker 8: the wrong decision. If you're out in a blizzard, in

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Speaker 8: a freezing snowstorm, homeless and insisting you want to stay

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Speaker 8: out there, you are a danger to yourself and we can,

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Speaker 8: under the law, arrest you and make you go inside.

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Speaker 8: But he said no. At eighteen people died, why didn't

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Speaker 8: he go visit their families.

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Speaker 2: No, he's busy going to visit.

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Speaker 8: The family of a knife wielding psycho who was shot

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Speaker 8: by police and lived. Let's go visit his family and

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Speaker 8: sympathize with them. This guy is so ridiculous liberal. I

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Speaker 8: I read something the other day that shocked me. A

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Speaker 8: woman academic on X. You know that X platform is

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Speaker 8: just amazing for the stuff you can see, and not

501
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Speaker 8: just conservative stuff. There's plenty of differents voices there. And

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Speaker 8: she said, that's what's happening in the Democrat Party and

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Speaker 8: liberal politics and the whole left is the feminization of it,

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Speaker 8: or the effeminateness of it, that it's turned into women.

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Speaker 8: It's turned into women dominated, and it prizes emotion over facts,

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Speaker 8: and it prizes feelings over rule of law. And it

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Speaker 8: was just shocking to see it because then I started

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Speaker 8: to look at everything through that pair of glasses and

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Speaker 8: I'm saying, yeah, you're actually right. And then you look

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Speaker 8: at Oregon where Oregon where That's my next book. I'm

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Speaker 8: writing it right now as we speak. And the politics

512
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Speaker 8: have for years been dominated by women all over the place.

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Speaker 7: And it's so simperingly wimpy, liberal, ridiculous. And here's the thing,

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Speaker 7: let's not just go after ideology. Let's just go after results.

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Speaker 7: The results of all of this feminine liberal ideology in Oregon,

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Speaker 7: in Portland have been that fourth graders and eighth graders

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Speaker 7: are down it like forty eighth the fifty states, and

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Speaker 7: their education test scores a billion dollars a year in

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Speaker 7: income leaves. The Portland Metropolitan area every year as jobs

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Speaker 7: flee in Multinoma County, which holds Portland in other towns,

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Speaker 7: they passed a preschool for all tax and they tracked

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Speaker 7: the one thousand tax richest taxpayers by name who had

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Speaker 7: paid that tax in the first year, and three years later,

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty three, three hundred and ten of the

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Speaker 7: one thousand richest taxpayers had left that county. That shows

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Speaker 7: you what tax increases to rereperens California. A trillion dollars

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Speaker 7: half of the two trillion dollars in billionaire wealth there

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Speaker 7: has left that state because of the mere threat of

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Speaker 7: apostible billionaire tax. One time only we insist, they say.

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Speaker 7: And Mark Zuckerberg just bought a house in South Florida.

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Speaker 7: Baby even there too.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that, even Zuckerberg, you know, one of the people

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Speaker 1: who was of the ilkword to talking about the younger

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Speaker 1: generation that's been indoctrinated and been feminized to this point.

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Speaker 8: Liberal, yes, liberal comps is what they're sometimes called.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's that's an acceptable that's an acceptable term here. So, Dennis,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask how we got there. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: the thirty years. I think it's more like forty years.

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Speaker 1: Of indoctrination in our in our academia, and in our society.

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Speaker 1: And this is all well planned. I believe this is

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Speaker 1: part of Communist China's one hundred year planned to take

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Speaker 1: down the United States.

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Speaker 3: Khrushchev said in the sixties that we would.

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Speaker 1: Collapse without buryview, without firing a shot. And that has

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Speaker 1: been their effort, and that has been their success so far.

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Speaker 3: And I think that.

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Speaker 8: Right, And then go ahead, and then you add in,

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Speaker 8: let's not forget the FBI surveillance tapes from the nineties

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Speaker 8: of a meeting of Muslim groups including you know, ci

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Speaker 8: Are Care and the brother the Muslim Brotherhood, and they're

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Speaker 8: plotting in the nineties how they are going to overtake America,

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Speaker 8: what they're going to do. And then I look at

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Speaker 8: this video from Times Square of hundreds upon hundreds of

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Speaker 8: Muslims bowing down and praying. I don't know why you

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Speaker 8: don't just pray in your mosque. I mean, why suddenly

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Speaker 8: are you overtaking Time Square? Exactly what message are you

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Speaker 8: trying to deliver? And you know, so that whole okay,

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Speaker 8: So the Academy University said the liberal thing, right. Also,

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Speaker 8: I learned this in reporting for Oregon as a great

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Speaker 8: political operative out there. Republicans told me the three most

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Speaker 8: important indicators of whether you are liberal are college education

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Speaker 8: that's more liberal, higher income is more liberal than lower income,

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Speaker 8: but also no religion. Oregon is one of the least

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Speaker 8: churched states in the nation. And when you don't have

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Speaker 8: a center in some way, something you know that tells

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Speaker 8: you live a good life, be good, that's what religion

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Speaker 8: kind of does, like it or not, I think, then

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Speaker 8: you latch onto other things to believe in because you

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Speaker 8: have nothing. And so you march for LGBTQ, and you

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Speaker 8: march for Palestine in a really marching for Amas, so

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Speaker 8: that you don't march for the thousands of people killed

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Speaker 8: in Iran by the governments there. No, no, we're not

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Speaker 8: gonna march there. Why because because your handlers didn't tell

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Speaker 8: you to. It's an embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna and we're gonna focus on We're gonna

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Speaker 1: focus on slavery one hundred and sixty years ago in

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Speaker 1: this country, but totally ignore the slavery that's going on

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Speaker 1: everywhere around the world, including and most notably in communist China.

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Speaker 2: Right right exactly.

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Speaker 8: I mean, they're just so inconsistent, and it shows that

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Speaker 8: they don't really believe in anything except what they're told,

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Speaker 8: and they don't have work and good careers. A lot

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Speaker 8: of them are unaccomplished.

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Speaker 2: You know work.

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Speaker 8: I'm not a terribly devout religious person. I mean I

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Speaker 8: do believe in something higher. I do pray there some

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Speaker 8: type of you know, Kingdom come Yes, okay, I'm And

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Speaker 8: the older you get, the more you might lean in

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Speaker 8: that direction.

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Speaker 2: But more than.

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Speaker 8: That, work gave me my identity. It gave me something

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Speaker 8: to strive for and to be about and to push

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Speaker 8: for and to achieve. And that then, you know, idle

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Speaker 8: hands do the devil's work, and so that kind of

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Speaker 8: kept me going. Well, I don't think a lot of

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Speaker 8: these people who are doing these stupid protests and doing

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Speaker 8: these things in Portland and Oreon, I don't think they

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Speaker 8: have a career to hold on to and something to

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Speaker 8: drive them. And only twenty five percent of Americans I

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Speaker 8: read in the Wall Street Journal a couple weeks do

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Speaker 8: now believe in the American dream that your kids can

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Speaker 8: have a better life than you, that you, with hard work,

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Speaker 8: can achieve and reach a wonderful, comfortable life. Well, I

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Speaker 8: say to the seventy five percent who don't believe start

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Speaker 8: working harder. Man, believe, it's not up to everyone out

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Speaker 8: there to give it to you.

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Speaker 2: It's up to you to.

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Speaker 8: Go out and grab it. That's what I have tried

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Speaker 8: to do and have done, and that's what you should

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Speaker 8: do out there.

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Speaker 3: I was instilled within it.

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Speaker 1: I was instead instilled with an incredible work ethic by

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Speaker 1: my parents. I was one of the rare kids that

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Speaker 1: in the sixties when I was just a little boy,

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Speaker 1: and into the seventies as I going to ask adolescent

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Speaker 1: hood and and and became a teenager. Both my parents worked.

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Speaker 1: They had they had four boys, They worked. We found

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Speaker 1: our way. We were kind of latch key at certain points,

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Speaker 1: but they instilled that work ethic in me. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's a failing of the following generation of my

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Speaker 1: generation not instilling that work ethic in their kids and

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Speaker 1: letting them just kind of give in to this malaise

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. And I, for one, I'm different from

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Speaker 1: you and the fact that I've recently just reconnected with

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Speaker 1: my faith in Jesus Christ. And the problem with the

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Speaker 1: left that you were mentioning is that they don't believe

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Speaker 1: in anything higher. They don't believe in anything, really, and

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Speaker 1: if you don't believe in anything, you'll fall for nothing.

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Speaker 1: I mean you'll fall for anything if you don't believe

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Speaker 1: in anything. But they think that God is the government.

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Speaker 1: They think that man is God. That's the problem with

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Speaker 1: secular humanism as a as a societal driving force, Dennis.

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Speaker 1: But when you have a center of faith, you understand

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Speaker 1: that there is something bigger than you, There's something bigger

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Speaker 1: than the government. There's something bigger than man there that

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Speaker 1: you can aspire to and cling to.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, hard work is a part of that.

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Speaker 2: I believe, yes, and.

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Speaker 8: The idea that hey there will be an accounting Yep,

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Speaker 8: someone up there is watching, so you, you know, work

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Speaker 8: harder to live a better life.

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Speaker 2: I know exactly what you mean.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 8: Look, I wrote this book called The Leadership Genius of

645
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Speaker 8: Elon Musk, and I urge anyone out there to buy

646
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Speaker 8: it because I could use for three dollars. But also

647
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 8: it'll change your life because it offers, you know, eleven

648
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Speaker 8: of the lessons of Elon what would e doon't do

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Speaker 8: to live a better life, build a better career? And

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Speaker 8: one lesson says most people are loafers work harder than

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Speaker 8: you ever have in your life. And you know, when

652
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 8: you work super hard, you outwork everyone and you beat them.

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Speaker 8: Elon's view is, if he's working sixty or one hundred hours

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Speaker 8: a week, he's going to get done one third faster

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Speaker 8: what the regular guys are doing who aren't working that hard.

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Speaker 2: And I think people now scoff it.

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Speaker 8: If you've got people in their twenties talking about work

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Speaker 8: life balance, how dare you? You, little pop Get to

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Speaker 8: work and work your butt off. That's how you get ahead.

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Speaker 8: And for people in their twenties, the rest of your

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Speaker 8: colleagues are a bunch of layabouts. And so if you

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Speaker 8: work super hard and let your bosses know that you

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Speaker 8: want to work hard, you will get ahead so much faster,

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Speaker 8: and you will get so much farther along than all

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Speaker 8: of your peers who are sitting there worrying about work

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Speaker 8: life balance. I just saw a story saying that the

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Speaker 8: gen x My daughter is a gen xer, a nurse

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Speaker 8: in Boston. She's got an incredible work ethic because her

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Speaker 8: mom and dad worked so hard as journalists for the

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Speaker 8: Wall Street Journal and elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: And forgot what's going with that.

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Speaker 8: But I think that those who are younger they should

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Speaker 8: work harder than ever instead of thinking somehow that they're

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Speaker 8: getting ripped off.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I couldn't agree with you more, Tennis Neil. But

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Speaker 1: the other thing you just mentioned, their mother and their

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Speaker 1: father taught her a work ethic and it took so

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Speaker 1: I mean, it all ultimately begins in the home. And

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Speaker 1: there are so many lost souls out there who grew

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Speaker 1: up in a one parent home, or maybe they were

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Speaker 1: raised by their grandparents who did.

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Speaker 3: The best they could.

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Speaker 1: That's another that's another leg of this table that is

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Speaker 1: wobbling into oblivion and many, many of these big blue cities,

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Speaker 1: is that there's no great family kind of figure that's

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Speaker 1: helping guide them or did the job of parenting you know.

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Speaker 2: So well, there we got a.

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Speaker 8: Lacka though just to but there is, just to make

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Speaker 8: the conversation a little more interesting, there is in a

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Speaker 8: lot of households there's this strong woman matriarch who is

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Speaker 8: teaching them. I mean, my father was gone by the

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Speaker 8: time I was eleven or twelve, with divorced, and he

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Speaker 8: was dead by the time I was fourteen. He died,

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Speaker 8: you know, he was in an accident. But but and

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Speaker 8: yet my mom is the one responsible for my work ethic.

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Speaker 8: You know, she's a she was a school teacher for

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Speaker 8: thirty five years. She's you know, she's going to be

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Speaker 8: eighty eight next week, all right, and she's saying to me,

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Speaker 8: you know, one reason I want to stick around is

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Speaker 8: because I still want to really see you make it

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Speaker 8: big now. I want to tell her, Mom, I had

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Speaker 8: my own show on in the CNBC at eight o'clock

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Speaker 8: at nine for six months. They canceled it, sure, but

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Speaker 8: I didn't get the shot. I mean I was at

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Speaker 8: the Forbes is the managing entitor, I was on CNBC.

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Speaker 8: But she still thinks I haven't made it yet, so

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Speaker 8: she still wants to see if I'm gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: You know, another problem that we're having in these big

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Speaker 1: blue cities electing communists, Dennis, is that the turnout is.

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Speaker 3: So pathetically low.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Mom, Donnie got fifty percent of the vote,

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Speaker 1: but what was the percentage.

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Speaker 8: Of people like nine turnout or something ridiculously low? And

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Speaker 8: we get what we deserve and you turn it over

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Speaker 8: to specialists. Because Mom, Donnie, when he spoke to Muslim audiences,

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Speaker 8: there's video of this on x he was telling them. Look,

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Speaker 8: there's a million Muslims in New York. There's no there's

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Speaker 8: no reason why we can't. Basically, he didn't use these words,

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Speaker 8: but he meant takeover City Hall. And now he's done it.

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Speaker 8: And he had money from twenty three Muslim groups. This

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Speaker 8: according to Osra Nomani, a reporter friend of mine who

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Speaker 8: wrote it for Foxnews dot com and she's a former

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Speaker 8: Wall Street Journal reporter, and twenty three Muslim groups backed

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Speaker 8: with money as well as by the way, you know,

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Speaker 8: two dozen Union groups. Okay, but Muslims took him hand

726
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Speaker 8: picked in twenty fourteen, four years before Kami Mamdani even

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Speaker 8: became a US citizen, and started grooming him to do this,

728
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Speaker 8: and I just can't even believe they pulled it off.

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Speaker 8: And then weeks into his new administration, Mamdani is speaking

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Speaker 8: in a Muslim accent and quoting the Quran in a

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Speaker 8: public speech to a city that has two million Jews,

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Speaker 8: has one million Muslims.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the largest population outside of Israel in New York City.

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Speaker 8: And yet and they were worried about him, and so

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Speaker 8: what does he do to allay their concerns? Literally at

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Speaker 8: midnight when he took over office Jan war. Among his

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Speaker 8: first orders were to eliminate all executive orders from his predecessor,

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Speaker 8: Eric Adams, Democrat, that he'd had in place since the

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Speaker 8: previous September, including two orders that were cracking down on

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Speaker 8: anti Semitism. Why would you remove those two orders unless

741
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Speaker 8: you were kind of feeling like there's no need.

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Speaker 2: To crack down on anti Semitism.

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Speaker 8: There's this lie of Islamophobia in this country that was

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Speaker 8: started by Baraco bomb up. And the lie is this,

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Speaker 8: I mean, the Biden administration set up with special Presidential order,

746
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Speaker 8: you know, this crackdown on Islamophobia. And then I looked

747
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Speaker 8: into the numbers and I did an off be on it.

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Speaker 8: I forget where I ran it. And guess what attacks

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Speaker 8: on Isla Islamics. Muslims were at one third the rate

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Speaker 8: of attacks on Jews, so meaning the Jews were being

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Speaker 8: attacked twice as much as Islamics were being attacked. Yet

752
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Speaker 8: we're being told we should worry a lot more about Islamophobia.

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Speaker 8: It is a myth, just like transgenocide is a total myth.

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Speaker 3: Amen.

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Speaker 8: They say that there's people being murdered, but you know what,

756
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Speaker 8: there's about forty five to fifty trans people murdered in

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Speaker 8: an entire year, and usually it's because they were secretly

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Speaker 8: they were prostitutes who surprised of their clients.

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Speaker 1: Well, how many people are being affected now with this

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Speaker 1: re I mean just really firing up of trans people,

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Speaker 1: people identifying as trans who are turning out to be killers.

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Speaker 8: I mean, and you know what when you ask chatbots,

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Speaker 8: when you ask AI engines I have I said, you know,

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Speaker 8: trans people are only six people out of a thousand,

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Speaker 8: and yet you know there's like seven or eight cases

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Speaker 8: of trans and non binary people doing mass shooters. Gee,

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Speaker 8: that's got to be The odds of that have to be,

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Speaker 8: you know, billions to one. It comes backs is no,

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Speaker 8: actually no, their incidence actually is no higher.

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Speaker 2: It's actually lower than in the general population.

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Speaker 5: Oh bull, oh bull.

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Speaker 8: And let's remember that a lot of these trans people

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Speaker 8: they are taking hormones. Oh yes, we see what hormones

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Speaker 8: can do.

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Speaker 1: The drugs are are terrible. They're terrible for them, they're

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Speaker 1: terrible for society. And we need to stop this nonsense.

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Speaker 1: And we've come some way in this society a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I believe we've moved the needle a nudge, but it

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Speaker 1: needs to be full scale through, you know, throttled back,

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Speaker 1: Dennis Neil. I'm sorry, our time's up, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for filibustering. It was wonderful to sit here and listen

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Speaker 1: to you. I could do.

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Speaker 8: That, but my shrink used to say the filibuster and

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Speaker 8: our times when is Oregons coming out? It's coming out

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Speaker 8: later this year. You know, publishing is the one industry

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Speaker 8: that has not been changed by the Internet. They still

787
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Speaker 8: got patches on their elbows, smoking a pipe and taking

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Speaker 8: nine months to get something out the door.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Dennis Neil. On the nightcap.

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Speaker 1: Oh, as we turn the page, Kenneth Abramowitz will join

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Speaker 1: us just after the news break very twenty third Monday.

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Speaker 3: Evening, and thankfully we are not in the middle of

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Speaker 3: a bomb.

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Speaker 1: Cyclone, the northeaster that hit the entire Eastern Seaboard overnight

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Speaker 1: and is still continuing in part so that they're going

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Speaker 1: to be digging out for days. So glad I'm not there,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad kind of I'm not in South Florida

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Speaker 1: because Kenneth O brahma Witz, our next guest, says it's

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Speaker 1: extremely chilly there too. Well, you know, Kenneth, I tell

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Speaker 1: you what as welcome to the show.

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Speaker 7: Number one, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: And number two, you're going to be hard to elicit

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Speaker 1: any sympathy from us here in the Midwest, who, of course,

804
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago went through more than a week,

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Speaker 1: maybe three weeks of sub freezing temperatures, and we had

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Speaker 1: our own little twelve inch snowfall here a while back,

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Speaker 1: not too long ago, So we can definitely feel like

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Speaker 1: we have some suppatico with the weather on the East coast.

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Speaker 1: But it's kind of hard to feel bad for you

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Speaker 1: in Florida when it's fifty you understand, I.

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Speaker 7: Hope, Well, yeah, but there in mine with the windshill factor,

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Speaker 7: it's forty eight.

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Speaker 1: So, oh my goodness. It's great to have you on

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Speaker 1: the show regardless. And Kenneth as the author of the

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Speaker 1: Multi Front War. He's been our guest in the past,

816
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Speaker 1: defending America from political Islam, China, Russia, pandemics, and racial strife.

817
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Speaker 1: He's a founder of Savedthwest dot com, and he's our

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Speaker 1: guest this evening. So what do you think the state

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Speaker 1: of Are we in a better place in America today

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Speaker 1: than we were, say, a year and a half ago,

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Speaker 1: two years ago?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Well, sure, I mean, if I were a professor

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Speaker 7: grading our last government, the Biden administration, they got.

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Speaker 5: An F minus, and.

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Speaker 7: Today I would say we get a B plus. So

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Speaker 7: that's huge, huge turnarounds.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think President Trump and his administration have

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Speaker 1: fallen short of an A?

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Speaker 7: I'll mention a few issues that bear something in night.

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Speaker 7: If President Trump were on the phone or any leader

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Speaker 7: of a democracy, he would say, oh, sure, Ken, it's

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Speaker 7: easy for you. You're sitting in Florida and you're you're saying

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Speaker 7: I should do this, and I should do that, and

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Speaker 7: why didn't I do that? When you're president, you have

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Speaker 7: multiple conflicting.

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Speaker 2: Pressures on you.

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Speaker 7: You have your own party, you have the opposition party,

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Speaker 7: you have allies abroad, you have frenemies abroad, you have

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Speaker 7: enemies abroad. I have to put it all together and

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Speaker 7: make this issions. So I just had to get that

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Speaker 7: caveat for you.

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Speaker 3: Well, certainly, but yeah.

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Speaker 7: So uh in terms of issues, I think things are

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Speaker 7: going to get a lot better over the The B

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Speaker 7: plus is going to get to an A minus.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: I think within a month. I think, Wow, blowing up

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Speaker 7: a run is unavoidable, and this is the largest source

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Speaker 7: of terror and the destabilization in the world. It's what

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Speaker 7: I call in his little Nazi death cult. And and

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Speaker 7: if we overturn, it's like it's like winning the World

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Speaker 7: War two and getting.

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Speaker 9: Rid of the Nazis.

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Speaker 7: It's that big. Well, you get rid of the Nazis,

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Speaker 7: and your B pluses is going into the A category.

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Speaker 7: So I think, I think, uh, maybe when we talk

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Speaker 7: in a month or so, I think we'll be uh,

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Speaker 7: I'll be more generous in getting into the A category.

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Speaker 3: The score, the score will be improving, is what you're

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Speaker 3: telling me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, yes, And so that's good. Another thing that

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Speaker 7: I would like to see improved. Now, nobody in America

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Speaker 7: knows where Syria is, so I just wanted to mention

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Speaker 7: something about Syria. Syria is full of bad guys. By

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Speaker 7: the way, virtually every middle leaves catching full of bad guys.

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Speaker 7: That's not the unusual here. But I just read that

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Speaker 7: twenty thousand Isis criminals escape from a prison because we

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Speaker 7: tried to move it from the Kurdish area where it

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Speaker 7: was under control to a rack and something predictably strange happened.

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Speaker 2: Along the way.

871
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Speaker 7: Well, we're going to end up blowing up Syria someday

872
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 7: or pieces of Syria because you can't let twenty thousand

873
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 7: Isis people out of prison and expect anything good to

874
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 7: come out of it, So that that would be one

875
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 7: of the reasons why right now he's in the B

876
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 7: category and not in the A category. Politically, what happens

877
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 7: in Syria is of no consequence politically. I'm just saying,

878
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 7: in terms of world politics, it's a big deal.

879
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's a big deal because if you've got

880
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: a bunch of these ICE's characters freed from prison and

881
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: back on the loose in the Middle East, then ultimately

882
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: it becomes a political issue for us because we're going

883
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: to have to address this cancer as it metastasizes other

884
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: areas again in the Middle East. And like you said,

885
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: there are plenty of bad guys all over that region

886
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: of the world who would like nothing more than to

887
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: see Western civilization completely crumble, right.

888
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 7: That's exactly it. And also, bad guys don't stay in place. No,

889
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 7: just because you go to your map, you know, Google Map,

890
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 7: and it says Siri, you know, you look at the

891
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 7: line surrounding Syria. You say, oh, well, the bad guys

892
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 7: are going to stay in Syria. I don't know where

893
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 7: Syria is and I don't care. Well, they're not staying

894
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 7: in Syria. I don't care about boundaries, and so that's

895
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 7: why it leads to a next mess.

896
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: All right, well, political Islam is one thing mentioned in

897
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: the multi front war. Let's get to China and the problem.

898
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: You know, this past Saturday, I have a show on

899
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, and I would start with kind of like

900
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: a history recap for that day of and one of

901
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: the things that I mentioned was, this was the weekend.

902
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: This past weekend was the weekend that Nixon went to

903
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: China and met with the chairman at that point of

904
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: Mao Zedong, I believe, and opened up China to world

905
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: trade with the United States and the rest of the globe.

906
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: And it turned out to be not so not so

907
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 3: great a.

908
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: Move for the West and the rest of civilization, because

909
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: they thought that the communist Chinese were once they had

910
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: a taste of capitalism, that they would become, you know,

911
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: suddenly democratic and they would learn to love liberty just

912
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: like we do. And all it did was open the

913
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: door for the communists to flood into this country and

914
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: the West.

915
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you're.

916
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 7: Exactly right now. In retrospect, it wasn't a terrible idea

917
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 7: to open up to China and to hope that something

918
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 7: good would come out of it, But we didn't manage

919
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 7: the process well. So when when uh so, for example,

920
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 7: when when we allowed them into the World Trade Organization,

921
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 7: You don't you don't take a half enemy and just

922
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 7: throw them into the World Trade Organization and then they

923
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 7: have a nice day. You know, if you have to

924
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 7: have policemen around, you have to have regulators, you have

925
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 7: to have you have to be watching the situation, you

926
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 7: have to have conditions that and if you don't meet

927
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 7: those conditions, I'm going to knock you out of the

928
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 7: World Trade Organization. So we mismanaged the process. So what

929
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 7: I'm saying, what wasn't a bad idea at the time.

930
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 7: It was reasonable to try to bring the world's most

931
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 7: populous country into the Family of Nations. That's reasonable. But

932
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 7: we didn't manage the process well enough to have guide

933
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,479
Speaker 7: rails so that China would have known the ten things

934
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 7: that we expected of them. And that was the mistake.

935
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: Well, didn't it get Americans and people in the West

936
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: kind of addicted to the cheap goods that they were,

937
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, dumping on our markets? And it ended in

938
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: the result of the loss of lots of manufacturing jobs

939
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: and lots of made in America prospects that the president

940
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: is truly trying to bring back and has had some

941
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: success with in his first year. But it's still that

942
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: was a Pandora's box, that mismanagement that you're talking of.

943
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 7: Yes, and also the way it ended up working out

944
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 7: politically is just pretend that ten percent of the people

945
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 7: lost their manufacturing job, but ninety percent of the people

946
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 7: bought stuff at Walmart at fifty percent off. So if

947
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 7: you interviewed the ninety percent, they would say, oh, I

948
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 7: love China. You know, I just bought this at Walmart, and the.

949
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: Boy was what a good deal I got.

950
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 7: If you interviewed the ten percent of the people who

951
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 7: got laid off, they say, I hate China, I hate

952
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 7: outsourcing manufacturing to the slave labor of China, and I

953
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 7: lost my job and I can't pay my mortgage. I

954
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 7: may lose my house. So you can see how politically

955
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 7: the politician said, well, this is a good trade off,

956
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 7: but for the ten percent of the people into the

957
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 7: towns that they were working in, that's pretty devastating.

958
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: I have a guest who says that we should totally

959
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: divorce ourselves from China completely, and I listen to him

960
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: say that, and I go, yeah, how are you going

961
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: to convince that majority of the people who are paying

962
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: fifty percent on Chinese goods to wean themselves off of it.

963
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: That's a tough ask, I think, and that's one of

964
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: the things we're struggling with economically right now in this country.

965
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 7: Yes, but there is a compromise situation here. We don't

966
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 7: have to divorce ourselves entirely, and I don't even know

967
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 7: if we can. But there's certain things that we buy

968
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 7: from China that China vary smartly created monopolies in so

969
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 7: they make a lot of the pharmaceuticals, generic pharmaceutical precursors

970
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 7: and chemicals which we have which become pharmaceutical pills and

971
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 7: we take them. But they could restrict that. In the

972
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 7: other big areas rare earth elements, which are obscure metals

973
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 7: that are very important and they're used to create magnets

974
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 7: and they're used in high technology airplanes, for example, for

975
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 7: our military. So we certainly have to have a massive,

976
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 7: massive effort, which we're doing, to become self sufficient in

977
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 7: rare materials. We also have to do a better job

978
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 7: on the pharmaceutical side making getting those pharmaceuticals maybe out

979
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 7: of India or elsewhere, but not out of chime. So

980
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 7: there's some things we can do that will take a

981
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 7: year or two or three or four, but can be

982
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 7: done initiated right now and accomplished before too long.

983
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: Well, I think our inspiration should be what happened with

984
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: the advent of World War Two, when we re tooled

985
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: our plants and reimagine manufacturing this country to build the

986
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: war machine that was needed to defeat Nazi Germany and

987
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: Japan and with Ai and everything else that's going on

988
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: in new technologies. We need to do that. We need

989
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: to reinvent or reimagine our manufacturing in this country in

990
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: a way that maybe hasn't been done since World War Two.

991
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, And you brought up an extra point that

992
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 7: I forgot to bring up, is we forgot how to

993
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 7: make ships. We produced a gillzillion ships in World War Two,

994
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 7: and then we said, oh, it's peacetime, we don't have

995
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 7: to do that anymore, and we lost the talents. And

996
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 7: so President Trump has a huge campaign on to help

997
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 7: us relearn how to produce ships, even though there will

998
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 7: be higher costs. We just for our own national security,

999
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 7: we have to learn how to do it. And he's

1000
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 7: also working with South Korea and Japan and some in

1001
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 7: Europe to based we expand those production facilities so the

1002
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 7: ships will be in either our hands or friendly ship

1003
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 7: hands as we modernize our navy.

1004
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: We're talking to KENNETHA. Brahma.

1005
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: What's the author of the Multi front war. So we've

1006
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: touched on political Islam and China. Let's move to the

1007
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: third thing that you talk about Russia and what Vladimir

1008
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: Putin's intentions are and how do we face that.

1009
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 7: Okay, well, if you look at including our previous conversation

1010
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 7: and your question, there's many sources of evil, but right

1011
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 7: now Putin is evil, presidency of China's evil in the.

1012
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: Supreme leader of around evil.

1013
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 7: These are pure This is Hitler evil I'm talking about, right,

1014
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 7: So what.

1015
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: Do you do about evil?

1016
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 7: Wells and grandpire and parents fought a war obviously wanted

1017
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 7: and that's why they're called the Greatest Generation. They fought

1018
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 7: a war for about four years in order to make

1019
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 7: the world safe for us and then our children and

1020
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 7: grandchildren and so forth. Well, we have to confront these

1021
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 7: uh three sources of evil after we blow up or

1022
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 7: run in the next month, I think our relations with

1023
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 7: Russia and China will improve because because you know, if

1024
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 7: there's three bad guys, just pretend, you know, you walk

1025
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 7: out of the restaurant and there's three bad guys and

1026
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 7: you pretend you're you know how to fight in your box,

1027
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 7: and you punch out one of the three. The other

1028
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 7: two will say, I'm not messing with this guy. You know,

1029
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 7: this guy's a ludicic and he's strong, and uh, you

1030
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 7: know I'm not Uh.

1031
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: He has no compunction, he has no compunction about punching

1032
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: me out.

1033
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: And I could be next to your list.

1034
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I think I'm going to go home and

1035
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 7: stick to my knitting and try to be a good guy.

1036
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 7: So I think our relations with China and Russia will

1037
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 7: improve in April after we blow up around in March.

1038
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 7: Another thing is this was a parent about six months

1039
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 7: ago when Israel, mostly in America a little bit blew

1040
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 7: up around for twelve days. The technology that Israel and

1041
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 7: America have are so far superior to what the Chinese

1042
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 7: and Russians have. Because the Chinese and Russians have copies

1043
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 7: of what we have. But when you copy something that

1044
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 7: we need ten years ago, it's not the same thing

1045
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 7: as the original that we produced last week. So the

1046
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 7: Chinese and Russians are one or two or more three

1047
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 7: bro I know, generations behind us. So when they see

1048
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 7: the capabilities of our planes and our missiles, and I

1049
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 7: think they'll say, look, it's another reason I don't want

1050
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 7: to mess with these lule the texts because I don't

1051
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 7: have that technology. And if I get into a war

1052
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 7: with America directly or indirectly, they can do to me

1053
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 7: what they just did to Iran. And I'm out of power.

1054
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 7: And here's something in mind. When you're a bad guy

1055
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 7: dictator and you're in power and you go out of power,

1056
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 7: you go out of power by being killed. Yeah, it's

1057
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 7: not like in America where you say, Okay, I lost

1058
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 7: the election, I've gotta set up the library, give some

1059
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 7: speeches barely after happily ever after, No, it doesn't work

1060
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 7: that way.

1061
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 9: In a dictatorship.

1062
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 3: You got to prison, You go to prison, or you

1063
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 3: wind up dead or both.

1064
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, you go to prison if you're lucky.

1065
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Maduro's pretty lucky right now, is what you're

1066
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: saying with the pinpoint precision that we used the technology

1067
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: we have that we used to take out Iran's nuclear sites,

1068
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: do you think that that made China take a step

1069
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: back from making any further advancements on Taiwan.

1070
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, But there's another issue that I have

1071
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 7: to emphasize. The of all the armies in the world,

1072
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 7: there's only two armies that are fighting intensively and therefore developing.

1073
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 7: You know, whenever you fight a war union you develop

1074
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 7: their technologies obviously. So you have Ukraine basically beating back

1075
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 7: the Russians, you know, at least holding them to a stalemate,

1076
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 7: producing huge numbers of drones and devastating lots of Russian troops.

1077
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 7: And then you have Israel innovating with all that it does.

1078
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 7: And by the way, everyone wants in F thirty five

1079
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 7: right now, because what Israel did to the F thirty

1080
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 7: five in the how they entered Iranian space, airspace protect

1081
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 7: and clothes are protected by Russian and Chinese missiles and

1082
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 7: no airplanes got hit. Everything, everyone returned and they hit

1083
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 7: their targets. So that technology gets shared. The next day

1084
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 7: with America, I heard a speaker on this. This was

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Speaker 7: a couple of years ago, he said that Israel has

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Speaker 7: given seven hundred and fifty upgrades to the F thirty

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Speaker 7: five software upgrades to the F thirty five in the

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Speaker 7: past several years. It's probably up to one thousand now.

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Speaker 7: So it's think of the Israel and America a joined paper.

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Speaker 7: So from the bad guy point of view, they're contending

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Speaker 7: not only American ingenuity but also Israeli ingenuity. And you

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01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,479
Speaker 7: put the two together, and if I were Russia and China,

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Speaker 7: I would say, I don't want to mess with these guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what the points always made, and people

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01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: make the argument that America shouldn't give all this money

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Speaker 1: and technology to Israel, and you know, I have a

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Speaker 1: more isolationist approach, but you bring up the point that Israel,

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Speaker 1: through their ingenuity and they're reimagining of American technology, they're

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Speaker 1: given that back to us. So I mean, it's it

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Speaker 1: is a pretty it's a pretty symbiotic thing.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Israel is increasingly being mentioned as a model ally

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Speaker 7: that someone think of as like a marriage. You know,

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01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 7: one day, you know one helps one and the next

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01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 7: day the other helps the other. So think of America

1105
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 7: and Israel as a marriage of technology and brains, innovation, creativity,

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01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 7: work ethic. Both countries have a strong war effic work ethics,

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01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 7: well trained engineers. You put it all together, it's like

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01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 7: a wonderful marriage. So if someone says, oh, we don't

1109
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 7: need the other half of the marriage, you go, hello,

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Speaker 7: I think you need the other half of the marriage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Kenneth O Brahmowoodz is our guest, And one more time,

1114
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Speaker 1: let me mention the book the Multi Front War Defending

1115
01:03:55,160 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: America from political Ism. I'm China, Russia, pandemics and racial strife,

1116
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: And just in closing, I don't think that we have

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01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: the level of racial strife in this country that we're

1118
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: always told we do. I think part of that is

1119
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: media driven, and it's politically driven by one particular party

1120
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Speaker 1: not mentioning your names, Democrats. And as far as pandemics,

1121
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: then we're back to China and our own involvement with

1122
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: Gain of Function research. We need to take a long,

1123
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: hard look before we do any more of that. Frankenstein's

1124
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: stuff in the lab. Kenneth probably not a lot of

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01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: time to talk about either one of those, but racial strife.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's really as much racial strife in

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Speaker 1: America as we're being told there is because I don't.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 7: Every time I read something people say America is the

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Speaker 7: least racist country in the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Here, Now bear something in mind. A lot of our

1133
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 7: internal problems are caused by our external enemies. Our external enemies,

1134
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Speaker 7: the three bad guys that I just mentioned, Russia, China,

1135
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Speaker 7: and Iran. They have agents in America trying to infect

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Speaker 7: O K to twelve schools, in fact, our teachers' colleges,

1137
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 7: infect our universities, in fact racial relations. And so I

1138
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 7: think the little problem that we had with racial stripes,

1139
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 7: which we largely settled over the past hundred years. It

1140
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 7: wasn't easy, but we did it, and I'm very proud

1141
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 7: of us having done that. They're trying to revive the

1142
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 7: racial strife. So it's a very smart idea of the

1143
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 7: bad guys China, Russia, in Iran. So I don't look

1144
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 7: at ourselves as being naturally at odds.

1145
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: With each other.

1146
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 7: I think it's been exacerbated by our foreign enemies. And

1147
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 7: that's why I call our current situation World Worth three

1148
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 7: because in World Were one and two, the war was

1149
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 7: largely over there.

1150
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: Remember the famous song over there?

1151
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 7: In World War three, I quote the Beatles the wars here,

1152
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 7: there and everywhere. So whenever I see something bad happening

1153
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 7: in America, I say, who abroad? Which of our foreign

1154
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 7: enemies might be behind these demonstrations, these protests like Minneapolis.

1155
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Speaker 1: The great example. Kenneth, thank you so much for your time.

1156
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: We're out of it tonight, but hope to talk to

1157
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: you again soon. The Multi Front War is the book.

1158
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: Kenneth Abramowitz is the author and a wonderful guest for us.

1159
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, sir.

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01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 7: Yes, and people should look at my website, Savedwest dot

1161
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 7: com and sign up. It's complementary. They'll get my articles

1162
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 7: every two weeks.

1163
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Speaker 1: Oh fantastic, Savedthwest dot com. Thank you, Kenneth. The Nightcap

1164
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: rolls on. We've got Robert Eringer coming up next. More

1165
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: Epstein file stuff on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW.

1166
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 3: As this Nightcap roll on, we turned the page.

1167
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of Epstein talk and certainly a

1168
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: little bit of intrigue an espionage involved. If that doesn't

1169
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: wet your whistle, I don't know what will. But it's

1170
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: first time for me talking to our next guest. He

1171
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: has a book coming out on March nineteenth. That's the

1172
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: publishing date. It's entitled The Spymaster of Monte Carlo, and

1173
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: you can pre order it now on Amazon and Barnes

1174
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: and Noble. He is someone who came to be an

1175
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: intelligence advisor to Prince Albert of Monaco back in two

1176
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Speaker 1: thousand and two. I bet there are all kinds of

1177
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Speaker 1: stories that he can and can't tell. Let's get to

1178
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: some of those. Robert Eringer joins us, how you.

1179
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: Doing, Robert, I'm doing very well, thank you, Jeff.

1180
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Speaker 1: All right, well, so, first and foremost, how did you

1181
01:07:54,520 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: get to be an intelligence advisor to Prince Albert of Monaco?

1182
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: I guess there's two aspects of the story. One is

1183
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 2: how I got into intelligence in the first place, and

1184
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 2: then the second is how.

1185
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 3: Let's start at the beginning, then.

1186
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 2: All right, Well, around nineteen ninety I began working with

1187
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: Claire George, who had recently retired from the Central Intelligence Agency,

1188
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: where his last job had been director of Operations, and

1189
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: we did private sector intelligence for select clients, usually royalty

1190
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: and billionaires, through the nineteen nineties, and then a couple

1191
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: of years into that, the opportunity arose to get involved

1192
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 2: with Edward Lee Howard, who was the only CIA officer

1193
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 2: to successfully defect defect to the Soviet Union, which he

1194
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: did in nineteen age five, and I was offered the

1195
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: opportunity by a book publisher to I did his book. Well.

1196
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: I was already involved in the intelligence world by then

1197
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 2: with Claire George, so I saw this as an opportunity

1198
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: to try to catch Edward LYF. Howard and return him

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Speaker 2: to justice in the United States. So Claire George kind

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01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 2: ofly introduced me to the FBI because this would be

1201
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: their turf, not the agency's turf, and I was often

1202
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: running doing undercover missions for FBI counterintelligence for about the

1203
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: next eight years, in addition to the private sector intelligence

1204
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 2: I was doing. So that answers the first question about

1205
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: how I got into intelligence, Then about.

1206
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: You know what can I stop you right there? Because

1207
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: I had a question based on what you just said.

1208
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: So this was FBI territory even though he was in

1209
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: a foreign country, which you normally think, okay, that's CIA,

1210
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: But this was FBI territory because he was an FBI agent,

1211
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1212
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? He was a wanted criminal and a fugitive from justice,

1213
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: so that would make him BI turf. Originally I thought

1214
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 2: maybe it would be a CIA issue, but of course

1215
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: they were extremely interested, and as the mission involved, I

1216
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 2: actually kept the CIA or rather clear George, and he

1217
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: kept various officials in the CIA informed of our progress,

1218
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: something that the FBI did not do, which which was

1219
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: rather curious.

1220
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, why is there seemingly always

1221
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: this disconnect between these two intelligence agencies. I guess the

1222
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: FBI more investigatory and prosecutory, but the CIA obviously that

1223
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: they have information that if they shared it more openly.

1224
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: Do you think they would get better results?

1225
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: You think so? And what the aftermath of dial eleven

1226
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 2: was supposed to change all that? I'm not sure. That's

1227
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: what we have.

1228
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: That's why we have a Department of Homeland Security. They

1229
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: were supposed to draw all those people together, and it

1230
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: seemingly has has done just the opposite of many cases.

1231
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it has a historical basis from the time

1232
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: Jay agar Hoover was running the FBI that he himself created,

1233
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 2: and he did not like the idea of an OSS

1234
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 2: during more time because he thought it was stepping on

1235
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: his toes, and he certainly didn't like the creation of

1236
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 2: the CIA thereafter, and so it goes back, It goes

1237
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: back many decades, the historical rivalry between the bureau and

1238
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 2: the agency. But you put your finger on it. The

1239
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: FBI does law enforcement and the CIA does intelligence. And

1240
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: the CIA mostly operates overseas or rather outside of the

1241
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 2: United States, although something, well something most people don't know

1242
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 2: is they actually have a department that operates in the

1243
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 2: United States and has offices around the United States to

1244
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 2: cultivate what they call access agents. Whole other story. We

1245
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 2: can get into it if you want, or we can

1246
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 2: save it for another time, but the point is no,

1247
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: the FBI decided to hold the mission that I was

1248
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 2: involved in close to their chest. It evolved I was

1249
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: like I got involved in other things. We were supposed

1250
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: to try to catch Edwardly Howard, but the Clinton administration

1251
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: did not approve and actually aborted what we had set

1252
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,560
Speaker 2: up that we were actually would have been able to

1253
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 2: do it, but the Clinton White House caboose to the

1254
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 2: whole thing at a time when al Gore had a

1255
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,839
Speaker 2: reasonably good relationship with the Russian Prime Minister Sharon Emirden,

1256
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: and they just didn't want to upset the Russians, upset

1257
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: Sharonamrden and Boris Yelson. So that resulted in a book

1258
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: that was published in two thousand and eight by Potomac

1259
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: Books called A Ruse Undercover with FBI Counterintelligence. And if

1260
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 2: your listeners want to know more about that subject, that's

1261
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 2: they can order that on Amazon where we can talk

1262
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: about it some more or later on.

1263
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1264
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: Well, okay, Robert Earinger is our guest, the author of

1265
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: the Spymaster of Monti Carlo, and we're going to definitely

1266
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: get into that and the reason for this book.

1267
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Speaker 3: But just more on that.

1268
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Speaker 1: So what was what was the plan to get Howard

1269
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: out of the Soviet Union?

1270
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, as I mentioned, Howard wrote a book. He

1271
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: wanted to write a book. He did write a book.

1272
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 2: It was called safe House and it was published by

1273
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 2: National Press Books in Washington, d C. They National Press

1274
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: Books was not in on what I was really up to,

1275
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: i e. Working secretly for the FBI, but the book

1276
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: did get published. It was determined that we did not

1277
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 2: want a real existing publisher to uh to overlap with

1278
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 2: our extraordinary rendition, which is what it's called, and what

1279
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: would would have would have been. We needed we needed

1280
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: to create something else to lure him in. And so

1281
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 2: while I was in Moscow with him. I suggested that

1282
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 2: he write a Spies Guide to Europe because by this time,

1283
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: and we're talking about ninety four ninety.

1284
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Speaker 3: Five, can you imagine that? Can you imagine that on

1285
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 3: the travel Channel?

1286
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 2: It was a great concept. Actually, it would like a

1287
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: good book, and he actually wrote a bunch of it

1288
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: and a weekend. The FBI paid the advance for him

1289
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: to do it, although of course he wasn't aware of that,

1290
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 2: And so I commissioned him with the FBI's finance to

1291
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: write a book called Spies Guide to Europe. And he

1292
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,839
Speaker 2: was actually traveling around Europe at a lot of countries

1293
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 2: without fear of getting caught and extra dieted to the

1294
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: United States. So I set him to work. I said,

1295
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be great if you visit Bucharest and Sofia

1296
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 2: and Warsaw and write about how a spy does it?

1297
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 2: What are the low profile hotels, what are the best

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Speaker 2: restaurants and bars? Where would a spy hang out? He

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Speaker 2: loved the idea, jumped at it, and he went to

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Speaker 2: all the places that I'd wanted to put in the book,

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Speaker 2: mostly central European capitals, and it seemed to have a

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Speaker 2: great time living it up on money that was actually

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Speaker 2: coming from the FBI so he could travel and write

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Speaker 2: this book. So finally we got him to go to

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Speaker 2: or rather we got him to want to go to Warsaw,

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Speaker 2: and it was determined at various levels that Warsaw was

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Speaker 2: the place that we would be waiting for him, meaning

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Speaker 2: that the Polish government agreed that they would not let

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Speaker 2: him enter their country. There is a gray area that

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Speaker 2: exists between when you get off a plane and when

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Speaker 2: you go through immigration. You are essentially in no man's lam.

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Speaker 2: And so the deal was that while if he doesn't

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Speaker 2: actually enter the country, then there's that doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: be an extradition. Proceeding plane lands, there's a US Navy

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Speaker 2: jet on the tarmac, and he just gets intercepted by

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Speaker 2: FBI agents and uh and and put in cuffs and

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Speaker 2: walked over to a plane and flown back the United States. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So it was all set. The Polish government agreed, Howard

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Speaker 2: was booked to fly. He was going to arrive in

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Speaker 2: Warsaw on a certain day, on a certain flight. We

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Speaker 2: knew what it was and and I was prepared to

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Speaker 2: even go out there and be part of the team

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Speaker 2: to greet him. At the eleventh hour, the plan gets scrapped.

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Speaker 3: The Clinton White House scratched it.

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Speaker 2: Clinton White House scratched it at the eleventh hour. And

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Speaker 2: by this time, the FBI actually enlisted the CIA. They

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Speaker 2: were so excited. It was going to be a team

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Speaker 2: effort between the Bureau and the agency to to meet

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Speaker 2: Howard at at the airport Warsaw and bring it back

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Speaker 2: two pace trial. And uh, they it got scrapped. They

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Speaker 2: just didn't want to go there. How and mean that

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Speaker 2: the FBI couldn't do its job. People talk about the

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Speaker 2: politicist politicization of the FBI now as if it's some

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Speaker 2: sort of modern thing. This was happening back in the

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Speaker 2: mid nineties.

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Speaker 3: Well, we saw the FBI. The FBI was not allowed to.

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Speaker 2: Do its job. It was not allowed to get its man.

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Speaker 1: Well you talk about politicization of the FBI and and

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01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: the CIA, uh, and and their cooperation together. They had

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Speaker 1: no problem cooperating together when it came to try and

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Speaker 1: and uh get Donald Trump and get him off the stage.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's all that deep state stuff and uh,

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Speaker 1: things that we really haven't touched on at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the state is real, uh.

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Speaker 1: Administrative state, The bureaucratic state is real, and the FBI

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Speaker 1: and the CIA have you say, claim all was politicized

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Speaker 1: to a certain extent.

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Speaker 2: It sure seems that way I look at it. I

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Speaker 2: lived in Washington a long time. I was living in

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Speaker 2: Washington when I first was working with Claire George and

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Speaker 2: doing undercover work for the FBI. I got to know

1352
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: it pretty well. I use the term insider Washington a lot.

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Speaker 2: I prefer it to deep state because of the connotation

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Speaker 2: it has. You say deep state and people start thinking maga.

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01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: Now it's real. It exists, and you don't have to

1356
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 2: you don't have to have Trump derangement syndrome to deny it.

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Speaker 2: It's there, and it's been there a long time. And

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Speaker 2: I saw it firsthand in the nineties, and now now

1359
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 2: everybody's seeing it much later on with the whole business

1360
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: about well Obama was president essentially trying to rig an

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Speaker 2: election by claiming things that were not true about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I don't think MAGA when I

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01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 1: think of deep state. I think of MAGA busting up

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01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: deep state, and that's probably not real either. But let's

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Speaker 1: get to the book and how you got to be

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Speaker 1: an intelligence advisor for Prince Albert of Monaco.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that was the original Okay. The second part

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Speaker 2: of that original question is in the late nineteen eighties,

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Speaker 2: before I ever got involved in intelligence work, my background

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Speaker 2: as an investigative journalism, but I became a literary agent.

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Speaker 2: I call the whole thing the information biz was. Whether

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Speaker 2: it's journalism or intelligence book publishing, it's all about the

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01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 2: same thing, the acquisition, analysis, and dissemination of information. The

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Speaker 2: only even it's different in every case is the audience.

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Speaker 2: With journalism, you're looking for the largest audience you can get.

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Speaker 2: With intelligence, it's pretty a small audience. It might be

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Speaker 2: two or three people, or maybe a couple more, but

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Speaker 2: not much more than that. Okay, So we got the

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Speaker 2: intelligence business which I or rather the information business, which

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Speaker 2: I was already very much involved with, moved to Monaco

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Speaker 2: for a couple of years. I was just looking for

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01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: a little adventure, much younger than and I thought I

1383
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 2: would scout interesting books. I didn't, but I did get

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Speaker 2: to meet Prince Albert, and years later, when I would

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Speaker 2: go back to Monaco and occasionally visit with him, I

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01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: kind of filled him in on the basics of what

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Speaker 2: I was doing. Without revealing actual missions or anything. So

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Speaker 2: when the time came when I stopped doing this work

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Speaker 2: for the Bureau around two thousand and one, he was

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Speaker 2: having he was kept in the dark very much. He

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Speaker 2: was the hereditary prince then his father was i'd say,

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Speaker 2: very much in charge. He actually wasn't. He was unwell

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Speaker 2: and people were actually running the principality around him and

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Speaker 2: leaving Albert in the dark. And Albert knew that, but

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Speaker 2: he had two concerns. One the kinds of people who

1396
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 2: were entering his social orbit trying to get into it

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Speaker 2: and be his friend. And two, at that time the Russians.

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Speaker 2: There was this big Russian surge into the south of France,

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Speaker 2: the French Riviera. They had been in Switzerland through the

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Speaker 2: nineties mid nineties to the late nineties. Switzerland had enough

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01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 2: and pretty much banished of the Russians. They were there

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01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: for banking reasons, money laundering. Switzerland put their foot down,

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01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 2: So the Russians were looking at new places to go,

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Speaker 2: and the French Riviera looked right to them. Albert kind

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01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,719
Speaker 2: of knew what was going on, and he was concerned

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01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 2: about Russian influence in Monaco, and right he well should

1407
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 2: have been concerned, so he retained me to be his

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Speaker 2: intelligence advisor in June two thousand and two, and as

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01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 2: soon as that happened, my first mission was to reach

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Speaker 2: out and create relationships with as many intelligence services as

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01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 2: I could. Because I didn't have the means, I didn't

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Speaker 2: have the budget to collect a lot of intelligence on

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Speaker 2: my own. I essentially created an intelligence service from scratch.

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01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: But the best way, in fact, the only way to

1415
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 2: do that is to go to the CIA and to

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01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: MI six in Britain and other intelligence services and say, hey,

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01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: we have a prince here who's going to soon be

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01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: in charge of his country and he's concerned about Russia.

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01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,520
Speaker 2: Will you liaise with us and assist us with intelligence

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Speaker 2: that we need. And I managed to cultivate relationships with

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01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: twenty different intelligence services over the period of the five

1422
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Speaker 2: years that I was there, and it was great because

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01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: if we had an issue we wanted to know about somebody, saying,

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Speaker 2: some new Russian turned up in Monaco and we knew

1425
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 2: nothing about him, we would just ask the CIA, we'd

1426
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 2: ask MI I six and they'd run traces for us

1427
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 2: and they'd come back to us with all the goodies.

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01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 2: So Albert should have been a very happy camper, and

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01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: he was for a while because he went from being

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Speaker 2: not informed at all to being highly informed. And for instance,

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01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: if we wanted to know about a subject just beyond

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01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 2: traces at forty eight hours notice, the CIA would send

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Speaker 2: somebody out to Monaco and brief Prince Albert and myself

1434
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 2: in person on whatever issue. He had an opportunity to

1435
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 2: ask whatever he wanted to know about and an intelligence

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01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: service would be there to tell him. That's what I

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01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: created for him, and that's how the system worked at

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01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: at its best.

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Speaker 1: So is there what do you know about connections between

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01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: Prince Albert, for example, and his friendship with Prince Andrew

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01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: and the whole Epstein saga.

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Speaker 2: Robert Okay, Well, that is mostly in passing. Albert, as

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01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 2: far as I can tell, has ever been connected to

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01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. His name hasn't turned up in the files

1445
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: as far as I know. But one interesting thing I

1446
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 2: do know is that of all the members of the

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01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: British Royal family, Andrew was the one who Albert knew

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01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 2: the best, and it seemed that they had a a

1449
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 2: cooser bond than he had with any other member of

1450
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: the British royal family. It was always Andrew who came

1451
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: over to Monaco, and I sensed the bond, the friendship,

1452
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 2: So it always amused me years later when Andrew got

1453
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 2: into all this trouble and got exposed for the stuff

1454
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 2: he did with Epstein that of all people in the

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01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: royal family, he's the one Albert liked. And the reason

1456
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: for that is similar interest, meaning that Albert never really

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01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 2: cared much, as far as I could tell, for running

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01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 2: his country. He just goes through the motions. What was

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01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: most important to him was his sexual escapades, was his

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01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: social life, and you could always tell that he was

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01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,839
Speaker 2: more interested in his next date than whatever a CIA

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01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: briefer had to tell him.

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Speaker 3: That's very good.

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01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 2: That's why I called him two peas in a pod

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01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: or bosom buddies, was because they both were very much

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01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: the same. Andrew Wood drove the world as the trade envoy,

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01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 2: but only really care about meeting young women and providing

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01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 2: Epstein with whatever intelligence he picked up along the way,

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Speaker 2: and Albert had very little interest in affairs of state.

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Speaker 1: His interest Jeffrey Epstein was obviously in the information biz.

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Speaker 3: As you say, he.

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Speaker 1: Had an audience, there's no question about that for information

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01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: that he may possess or pass along. Is Jeffrey Epstein

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01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: a clandestine agent for any government.

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Speaker 2: May have been? I mean he certainly he was in

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01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 2: a leverage business. He seemed to be able to be

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01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,879
Speaker 2: able to collect a lot of compromont on high flyers.

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01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 3: That's part of the gig.

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01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: That's part of the gig, isn't it exactly? So the

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01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: question is was he secretly working for the CIA? Was

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01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 2: he secretly working for Massad from Israel, which where there

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01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 2: were connections? Was he doing something for Putin? Lately they've

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01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: been saying he was. He had contact with Putin. My

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01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 2: money would go on the Masad in Israel. He might

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01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 2: have been collecting a compromont for them, But I don't

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01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: rule out the possibility of working secretly for the CIA

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01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: to gain leverage, and ultimately that's what it may have been,

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01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: a leverage gaining operation, a honey honey trap pots huh.

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Speaker 1: Robert Eringer, thank you so much for your time. The

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Speaker 1: book is The Spy Master of Monte Carlo. It'll be

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Speaker 1: out to middle of next month, March nineteenth. Pre Order

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Speaker 1: now on Amazon and Barnes and Noble. The Spy Master

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Speaker 1: of Monte Carlo, and we just talk to him.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Thank you, thank you, Jim.

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Speaker 3: You got it.

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Speaker 1: Jim Reneesi will join us right after the news at

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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock on the Nightcap, joining us.

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Speaker 3: A frequent guest and.

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Speaker 1: A guy that I really enjoy talking to, even though

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Speaker 1: we disagree about a lot of things most of the time,

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01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: which kind of makes it more fun for me because

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01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: he does have some perspective. He does know what he's

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01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: talking about to a great extent because he was in

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01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: the middle of that machine in Washington, d C. He's

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Speaker 1: been a keen observer of all things political. He is

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Speaker 1: a businessman and entrepreneur. Former gubernatorial candidate, Senate candidate. Jim

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Speaker 1: Reneesi joins us on the Nightcap again, good evening. Is

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Speaker 1: this the King of Wadsworth, Ohio?

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Speaker 9: This is the man who sits in Wadsworth and the

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Speaker 9: snow wondering what the heck he is doing here?

1511
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: Well, it could be worse.

1512
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: You could be in Philly or DC or New York

1513
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: City right now, or even Boston. That probably wouldn't be

1514
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: quite as alluring as maybe a little Wadsworth.

1515
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're probably right, And I wouldn't want to be

1516
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 9: in those cities either too.

1517
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: Big, and they got the real brunt of this latest storm,

1518
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: this bomb cyclone overnight and to the early parts of today.

1519
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of places with more than two

1520
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: feet of snow. You didn't have two feet in Wadsworth

1521
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,799
Speaker 1: of snow, did you, Jim.

1522
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 9: No, No, not at all. And you're right. I mean,

1523
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 9: there's always a positive to being one place to the other.

1524
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 9: But you know what will be better as sunny Florida,

1525
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 9: So I'll always remember that as well.

1526
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've talked to two people earlier on

1527
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 1: tonight's show from Florida and they were complaining about the

1528
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: cold because it was below seventy degrees. So it's all

1529
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,560
Speaker 1: about perspective and relativity.

1530
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 3: Really.

1531
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:17,839
Speaker 7: That is so true.

1532
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,959
Speaker 1: Tomorrow is a President Trump's State of the Union address,

1533
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: and my first question to you is if any Democrats

1534
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 1: show up, which a lot of them are planning to

1535
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 1: boycott it, just all together in your remembrance, have there

1536
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: been a wholesale boycotting of Republicans from Democrat presidents in

1537
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 1: the last fifty years, because I don't recall that, and

1538
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,520
Speaker 1: their Democrats are talking about boycotting.

1539
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, not wholesale, And I think in the end you'll

1540
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 9: see Democrats show up because it is their house. It

1541
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 9: is the house. That's what we used to always say.

1542
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 9: And believe me, we would have meetings before Barack Obama

1543
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 9: would come with the Speaker of the House and he

1544
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 9: would say no Shenanigans, no hollering, no nothing, And of

1545
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 9: course we would still get a few that would pop off.

1546
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 9: But it's gotten worse. I can tell you that the

1547
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 9: Marjorie Taylor Greens, Yeah, the Marjorie Taylor Greens, and and

1548
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 9: the Boberts, you know, the the the.

1549
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 3: The a, the Al, the Al Greens.

1550
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 9: Uh, theres absolutely the core has changed totally.

1551
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: Yeah to what's her Maxine Waters and all of that.

1552
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 3: Shrie whatever his name is. That dude's a piece of work.

1553
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, it's it's it's changed. What I was trying

1554
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 9: to do is reflect on Republicans. Republicans used to hold

1555
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 9: the line when it was a Democrat president they have

1556
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 9: Now they're not holding the line anymore either, which, again

1557
01:30:58,040 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 9: I guess is what's good for the goose is good

1558
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 9: for gander well.

1559
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi famously tearing up the speech in the middle

1560
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: of the State of the Union. The first time Trump

1561
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: was in office, we had the paddles last year at

1562
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 1: the Joint Session of Congress right after Trump was sworn in.

1563
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a bunch of children run amok

1564
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: and there's not an authority figure there to tell them

1565
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:26,440
Speaker 1: to stop.

1566
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 3: What's that all about, Jim, Well.

1567
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 9: Remember what I said. I mean, Speaker Bainer used to

1568
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,799
Speaker 9: sit us all down before the meeting and say, listen,

1569
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 9: this is decorum, don't act up, don't say anything, and

1570
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 9: we pretty much held the line. Paul Ryan said the

1571
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 9: exact same thing. I mean, it's really the leadership that

1572
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 9: has to do that, and then it's the individual. And look,

1573
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 9: you're representing a district. I was at State of Unions

1574
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 9: with President Trump with President Obama, and you know, I

1575
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 9: always felt I was representing my district and I didn't

1576
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 9: want to embarrass my district either. But again that's all changed.

1577
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 9: Whether it's Republican or Democrats popping off, it happens now,

1578
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 9: and it's it's sad because that's not what the State

1579
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:14,959
Speaker 9: of Union should.

1580
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 2: Be all about.

1581
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: Well, what do you imagine President Trump will say tomorrow night.

1582
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,799
Speaker 9: Well, what I hope he says now, what I expect

1583
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 9: him to say, is that what I always love about

1584
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 9: President Trump. He usually comes in with a speech, and

1585
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 9: it'll be where he gets off the speech that becomes

1586
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 9: the problem, where he goes off the rail. And I

1587
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 9: think my fear is that, you know, he's got to

1588
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 9: stay on the rail.

1589
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 7: He's got to.

1590
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 9: Talk about Look, we are in a you and I've

1591
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 9: talked about this, whether we like it or not. We've

1592
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 9: got a November election coming up. Republicans are already the underdogs.

1593
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 9: The last thing we need is to make them more

1594
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 9: of the underdogs by making comments and calling names. But

1595
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 9: the president will do that, and I think that's one

1596
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 9: of the problems. What he really should focus on is

1597
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 9: how he's going to make the American economy better in

1598
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 9: the next ten months. That should be his number one

1599
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 9: goal because quite frankly, I just thought two polls today

1600
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 9: that both state the number one issue is the economy,

1601
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 9: which it always is sixty two one poll, fifty seven

1602
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 9: percent in another poll. And by the way, you know,

1603
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 9: international relations is two percent. So you know, Iran is

1604
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 9: not a big deal to the American voters. What they

1605
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 9: pay for at the groceries is a big deal. And

1606
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 9: I hope he really focuses on that because that's the

1607
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 9: way to stop the problem we're going to have in November.

1608
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 9: If it's just an absolute removal of Republican members because

1609
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 9: of the economy. The economy of the economy.

1610
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 1: Well, you know Democrats, They're big buzzword is affordability, and

1611
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: yet they have created the situation. I'm fully in belief

1612
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: that Democrats have created the affordability issued the lack thereof

1613
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:18,639
Speaker 1: by their policies, by the Biden, inflation, by regulation, by

1614
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: all of the things that they have been in favor,

1615
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 1: by the green news scam, they have affected affordability. And

1616
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the president should point fingers, even

1617
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 1: though he probably will, but that is where the affordability

1618
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:41,759
Speaker 1: crisis really arose from, was Democrat left leaning policies, especially

1619
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: during the last administration. I mean, every president inherits and

1620
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 1: knows he's going to inherit whatever mess was created by

1621
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:50,440
Speaker 1: the previous administration.

1622
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 3: I get that, but.

1623
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: Jim, affordability and I think again, and you've talked about

1624
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 1: this many times in this program with me, the big

1625
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: the problem is messaging by the Republicans and persuading people

1626
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: that their plan is better. I get that too, But

1627
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: in reality, the affordability crisis, whether it comes from homeowning

1628
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: or renting or groceries. Was all created before President Trump.

1629
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 1: And you know, a year in is not a whole

1630
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: lot of time to try and fix those issues, even

1631
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: though I believe God he's trying. Your thoughts on any

1632
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 1: of that.

1633
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 9: Well, here's probably one place we disagree, as you said

1634
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 9: in the beginning, because the affordability crisis really occurred with COVID.

1635
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 9: COVID occurred in President Trump's term and there was a

1636
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 9: massive machine of dollars being spent. We got to remember

1637
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 9: that inflation was driven by spending. Spending is driven by

1638
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 9: federal dollars. Federal dollars were being pumped in and I'm

1639
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 9: not saying it was wrong, the federal dollars were being

1640
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:05,799
Speaker 9: pumped in in during the Trump administration. We're unemployment. Somebody

1641
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 9: reminded me of this. We're unemployment. People were getting an

1642
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 9: extra six hundred dollars a week and that went on

1643
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 9: for time and time, so that costs in spending went up.

1644
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 9: And then Biden took over. But you've got to remember,

1645
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,759
Speaker 9: at the end of twenty twenty, when Biden took over,

1646
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 9: inflation had already started, spending had already started now.

1647
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: And Jim, and Jim the Inflation Reduction Act spent even

1648
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: more trillions we didn't have.

1649
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 9: You're gonna let me finish'n say the same thing. Then

1650
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 9: Biden accelerated it, and so he took over and he accelerated.

1651
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 9: So it all started because of COVID, and that's what

1652
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 9: that's what was the starting problem, and both presidents pushed

1653
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 9: spending to correct those things.

1654
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: Trump Trump had six months of COVID, Biden had the

1655
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 1: next year, and it didn't prove at all when there

1656
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 1: was a new president in the house Trump, I mean, yeah,

1657
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 1: I remember well the stimulus, so called stimulus checks that

1658
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 1: were handed out. As my friend Karen Katalen, who used

1659
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: to be a regular on this program, used to say,

1660
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 1: Jim orinacy. She said, yeah, they break you a leg

1661
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: and then they throw you a crutch. The shutdowns were

1662
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous, and the shutdowns weren't unpris In fact, President

1663
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 1: Trump wanted to reopen and he was persuaded not to

1664
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 1: by a lot of people who did not have the

1665
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: country's best interests at heart in my opinion.

1666
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 9: Well, anyway, what we're talking about is inflation.

1667
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 6: Now.

1668
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 9: What also happened is President trump brand for reelection and

1669
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 9: said he was going to end inflation. He said he

1670
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 9: was going to release the Epstein files. He said he

1671
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 9: was going to do a lot of things. And that

1672
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 9: was probably his mistake because you're right in a year

1673
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 9: into it, you're not going to bring grocery prices down now.

1674
01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 9: So again, a lot of this is messaging and mismanagement.

1675
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 9: And President Trump said from day one he was going

1676
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 9: to end the war. So I'm just going back to

1677
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 9: campaign promises and these are and look, I'm not a

1678
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 9: critic of President Trump. I think he did it. He

1679
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 9: ran a great re election process against a horrible candidate

1680
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 9: the name of the president, name of Joe Biden. But

1681
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 9: the problem was he probably went a little too far

1682
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 9: and saying he was going to do this, this and

1683
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 9: this and that, and that hasn't happened either.

1684
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: So a year and two, a year into this term, Jim,

1685
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt, but a year into this term, inflation

1686
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 1: is lowest year to year than it has been in

1687
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 1: quite a while. It came in a two point four percent,

1688
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: So he has brought inflation down.

1689
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 3: The inflation has come out.

1690
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 9: Here's another little dirty secret. I'll tell you. Every president

1691
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 9: fixes those numbers. When they come out to the benefits.

1692
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 9: I don't trust any of those numbers. By the way,

1693
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 9: I didn't trust President Finds numbers. I didn't trust person

1694
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 9: Obama's numbers. And I used to go back and check

1695
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 9: President Obama's numbers six months after the fact. That nobody

1696
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 9: does that, and they were always adjusted. So it's six

1697
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 9: months from now we'll have to talk about the inflation

1698
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 9: numbers's and see where they're adjusted. Because the president can

1699
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 9: say pull this out, do this, do that, and again,

1700
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 9: the real inflation comes from the person going to the

1701
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 9: grocery store, which is what I keep saying. I had

1702
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 9: a post on my social media. My wife went to Walmart,

1703
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 9: filled up a basket. It was four hundred and twenty

1704
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 9: seven dollars. I remember the day when that was two

1705
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 9: hundred dollars. And I'm not blaming President Trump, but well,

1706
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 9: here's what I am saying. That's the problem for the

1707
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 9: guy or gal who's spending every bit of their paycheck

1708
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 9: trying to make ends meet. Energy prices are going up,

1709
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 9: Utility prices are going up. I'm not blaming President Trump,

1710
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 9: but the electorate will blame the person in power, and

1711
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,480
Speaker 9: that's who that's the biggest issue come November.

1712
01:39:56,560 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 1: What have you done for me lately? Perception becoming reality?

1713
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: I get it.

1714
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 3: So I wanted to ask you about the Save Act.

1715
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:13,639
Speaker 1: And I don't know about, you know, proving that you're

1716
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: a citizen and having to bring you your birth certificate

1717
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 1: when you've lived in this who you're born in this

1718
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 1: country and lived in this country all your life. And

1719
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: I know about the federalizing the election part of the

1720
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 1: argument against the Save Act. But shouldn't we in federal

1721
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: elections require everyone who votes to have a valid photo ID.

1722
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: There is nothing wrong and there's nothing racist about that,

1723
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 1: and it should happen.

1724
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 9: Well, I agree, and I think eighty percent of Americans.

1725
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 9: I think everybody. Yeah, I think everybody agrees with that. Now,

1726
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,719
Speaker 9: you hit the nail on a few issues that are problem.

1727
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 9: Federalizing the election is one issue that people are saying,

1728
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 9: keep the federal government out of it, let's the states

1729
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,839
Speaker 9: do it. The other thing is saying, wait a minute,

1730
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 9: you know I was born my last name was X,

1731
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 9: I've been married. Now I got to prove that out.

1732
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 9: It's a complicated issue, and I think you've said it.

1733
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 9: Anything we do, we should figure out a way to

1734
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 9: make it a little bit more simpler if you have

1735
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 9: voted in elections and if you have a valid ID,

1736
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 9: and you have had a valid ID, you shouldn't have

1737
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 9: to bring in a birth certificate and redefine who you are.

1738
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 9: So that's going to be an issue that's going to

1739
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 9: cause some problems. But absolutely I do think we should

1740
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 9: we should have an ID. And look, when I ran

1741
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 9: for governor, because I am a believer that's a state issue,

1742
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 9: not a federal issue. I did say that I would

1743
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 9: push for a federal for a voter ID. And by

1744
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 9: the way, isn't amazing while I was running that got

1745
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 9: fixed because the couple issues that I ran on that

1746
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 9: were priorities for me running for governor, the state of

1747
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 9: Ohio stepped up and even Mike Dewin Governor DeWine, who

1748
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 9: wasn't for it, team for it and got to pass.

1749
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:03,640
Speaker 9: So if there was a couple of things I was

1750
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 9: able to get accomplished, that was one during my run

1751
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty two.

1752
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 1: Well, thank you on behalf of Ohio voters. On the

1753
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:14,679
Speaker 1: other hand, I am a commonwealth voter in the great

1754
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 1: State of Kentucky, the Commonwealth of Kentucky, and as long

1755
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 1: as I've lived there, you always had to have an

1756
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:24,879
Speaker 1: ID to vote, and I have never had any problem

1757
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 1: with that.

1758
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 3: You can't prove who you are.

1759
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 1: Then there is absolutely no way for you to think

1760
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 1: that you should go and cast your vote for any candidate,

1761
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 1: regardless of which political party it is. It just opens

1762
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: up for fraud and anybody who doesn't think that voter

1763
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:52,759
Speaker 1: ID should be required obviously as other motivations like cheating,

1764
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 1: what about what is keeping go ahead?

1765
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 9: One more thing, keep in mind that no citizen under

1766
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 9: the federal law, no non citizen is allowed to vote in.

1767
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 1: A It doesn't keep up from voting if there's no

1768
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: ID required, Jim.

1769
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 9: No, no, no, no no. So what I was going

1770
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 9: to say is the states need to make sure, which

1771
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 9: is why I said we need a voter ide. That's

1772
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 9: the reason I'd push for a voter ID. Each state

1773
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 9: needs to make sure that no non citizen is voting.

1774
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 9: That should be something that each state is required to

1775
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 9: do somehow someway.

1776
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the giving undocumented or illegal immigrants who are

1777
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 1: in this country illegally driver's licenses, that muddies the waters

1778
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 1: right there, And that's why they're asking for proof of citizenship.

1779
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 9: Jim, No, I understand, and again I said, there are

1780
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 9: some there's always some reasons. The problem when you take

1781
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 9: a brush and take the full brush across people, you're

1782
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 9: affecting people that should not be effected. So you know,

1783
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 9: there has to be ways to work through this in

1784
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 9: a better way. If you've been a citizen for if

1785
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 9: you've been a voter for ten years, twenty years, yeah,

1786
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 9: and you had a valid ID for twenty years, you

1787
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 9: should not have to bring a you know, you should

1788
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 9: not have to go back through the process. What about

1789
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 9: people Hope Gimp I hope jimern Ace, he doesn't have

1790
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,679
Speaker 9: to go back through the process if they pass along.

1791
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 9: I've been voting for you know what, forty some year,

1792
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 9: fifty years. I got to I've always brought my idea.

1793
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: I got to get a hold of the state capitol

1794
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 1: in Des Moines, Iowa, and see if they'll send me

1795
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 1: another copy of my burst is because I don't have

1796
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 1: one right now, and my mother gave me the one

1797
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: she had, so I'm going to have to send off

1798
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: to the state capital of Iowa to get mine.

1799
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:54,720
Speaker 9: Well, there you go. You might not be able to vote,

1800
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 9: should you're voting right be infringed on I think that's

1801
01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 9: a that's a valid problem.

1802
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I like you if that is required,

1803
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: I will take the responsibility of getting it done because

1804
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: it matters enough to me, and I believe that only

1805
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 1: citizens should be able to vote and be able to

1806
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:14,799
Speaker 1: prove who they are, So I won't have any problem

1807
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 1: doing it. I may have to jump through some hoops unnecessarily,

1808
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 1: but I will do it because I'm a responsible citizen.

1809
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 9: Jim perfect. That's what we all should do, and we

1810
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 9: should all want to vote. But again, there are some

1811
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:35,839
Speaker 9: people that you know, because they're spending all their time.

1812
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 9: I mean I always try, and I tell this to

1813
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 9: my wife, I always try and think about that person

1814
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 9: who is putting in eighty hours a week trying that

1815
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 9: make ends me, does want to do the right thing,

1816
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 9: but just does ends is a legitimate US citizen that

1817
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,799
Speaker 9: just doesn't have the time to go through those hoops

1818
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 9: and valleys. We need to make it easier for them

1819
01:45:58,640 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 9: as well.

1820
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there real quickly, with a couple of minutes left

1821
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 1: in the President's State of the Union tomorrow night, Jim Ernacy, Iran,

1822
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: what should we do?

1823
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 3: What do you think is going to happen there.

1824
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 9: Look, Iran right now is about ready to implode. Its

1825
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,640
Speaker 9: economy is the weakest it's ever been. You know, we

1826
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 9: should just I'm not sure we should fire any missiles in.

1827
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 9: This is Jim or an Acy speaking. I think we

1828
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 9: put enough pressure on them economically. They're going to implode

1829
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 9: on their own. My fear is, and I hope, and

1830
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 9: I know the President loves to, you know, say we're

1831
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 9: going to do this, and we're going to do that.

1832
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 9: My biggest fear is, you send a missile in this

1833
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 9: time and they send ten missiles out in places we're

1834
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 9: not expecting, and they kill innocent people, which they're not

1835
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 9: opposed to doing, and we've made a big mistake. They're

1836
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:59,759
Speaker 9: going to implode economics. Will do it? Keep the pressure

1837
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 9: on them. Only release a missile or if they release

1838
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 9: it at us, and let's just make sure that a

1839
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 9: ram comes down to their knees based on the economics

1840
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 9: that's already pressuring them. As we move forward, I know

1841
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,759
Speaker 9: he's going to talk tough, and by god, our president

1842
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 9: should talk tough. I just don't know if we need

1843
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 9: to throw a punch.

1844
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 1: Well, and it's definitely a lot more convincing message that

1845
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 1: he's been sending than Joe Biden's standing there and go don't, don't, don't.

1846
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 1: That was the most ridiculous foreign policy I'd heard of

1847
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 1: in years, Just a present going don't. And it's just

1848
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: kind of like Obama's red line that was crossed, or

1849
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 1: the line in the sand that was crossed, and then

1850
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything.

1851
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 9: Well, I would agree, he's got enough military sitting all alone.

1852
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1853
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 1: If that's not a convincer, If that's not a convincer,

1854
01:47:58,280 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.

1855
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 9: I just don't think we need to throw the first punch.

1856
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

1857
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,520
Speaker 9: And I'm glad he's talking tough. I hope he continues

1858
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 9: to talk tough, but you know, toughness sometimes comes with

1859
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 9: just building up that presence which we have right now.

1860
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: Just remember the Iatolas threw the first punch in nineteen

1861
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 1: seventy nine when they took over our embassy.

1862
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 9: I agree, but that's a lot of years by.

1863
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 7: We got to quit, we got to see.

1864
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 9: You know what somebody told me they like about jimmerin Ac.

1865
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,679
Speaker 9: I'm looking five years out and I never turn around

1866
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 9: and look back, because you can't change the past. You

1867
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 9: can't you know, you can't do anything about the past,

1868
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 9: but you certainly can do something about tomorrow, the next week,

1869
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 9: the next year, and the next five years. In my my,

1870
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 9: what people say is my biggest problem I have with

1871
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 9: jimmerin ACI is he's always looking five years out, which

1872
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 9: I'm okay with that.

1873
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 1: Well, it's good to have a forward visionary on the show. Jim,

1874
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 1: and I appreciate your time tonight. Thanks so much.

1875
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 9: I appreciate it as well.

1876
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 1: The King of Wadsworth, the King of Wandsworth, has spoken

1877
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 1: on the nightcap, We'll take a break and come back

1878
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 1: on seven.

1879
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 3: Hunterd wlw No, the billboard.

1880
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 1: Sitting always always got a load full of goo havin

1881
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 1: Wildman Walker joins this wild Man welcome, and are you

1882
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna throw at our head like Rob Dibble?

1883
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 6: You know I love Rob Dibble. I loved him as

1884
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 6: a Reds pitcher. But if you're gonna call me a

1885
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 6: close or call me John Franco, who should be in

1886
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 6: the Red Hall of Fame, I mean, that's just that's

1887
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 6: just insane that John Franco, who has the most saved

1888
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 6: by any left hander in the history of baseball, is

1889
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 6: not in the Reds Hall of Fame. But call me

1890
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 6: John Franklin, but Rob Dibble, I'll take the compliment. Or

1891
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 6: you call me Norm Charlton. Just don't call me Randy Myers.

1892
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 6: I don't like that guy at all.

1893
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 3: Who's who is the other closer you were railing against.

1894
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,799
Speaker 6: I don't want to name. His name is not worth mentioning.

1895
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 2: He's nothing but a little snitch.

1896
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 3: Punk Yeah, Danny Greve, that's right.

1897
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, steroid steroid user too.

1898
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

1899
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:18,519
Speaker 1: Wild band Walker said that any any litigants working for days, No,

1900
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 1: I understand. I'm just telling the legal eagles where to

1901
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 1: direct their ire. And and there's summons. Go see wild Man.

1902
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 6: That watched up bomb has no business being on the

1903
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 6: Reds Hall of Fame. And the only reason he got

1904
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 6: in was because of the Bleeding Hearts Veterans Committee. Because

1905
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 6: when he was on the ballot for the fans to vote,

1906
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 6: he never got in. So what's that tell you the

1907
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:45,879
Speaker 6: fans that want that bomb in there? But the Bleeding

1908
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 6: Hearts Veterans Committee at the Reds Hall of Fami Museum

1909
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,639
Speaker 6: got him man, which is a joke, a joke all

1910
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:53,599
Speaker 6: I had to do. He got me all fired up.

1911
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 6: Now you got me really mad all I had to

1912
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 6: do so happy here to talk about, you know, the

1913
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,080
Speaker 6: big news yesterday.

1914
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 1: Okay, well we got we got plenty of time, as

1915
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 1: it turns out tonight, wild Man, so we got time

1916
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 1: to talk about the big day yesterday. And of course

1917
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:11,799
Speaker 1: wild Man is speaking about USA gold in the twenty

1918
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:16,639
Speaker 1: twenty six Winter Olympics in Milan. As the USA took

1919
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 1: down Canada in the gold medal game in overtime. Could

1920
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 1: have been more exciting and more fitting wild Man two.

1921
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 6: To one overtime win. I mean, forty six years to

1922
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 6: the day when team of USA won it in nineteen

1923
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 6: eighty and when you look at the way the way

1924
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 6: team USA won this game, two different teams, two different

1925
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 6: total teams went winning the goal in nineteen eighty was

1926
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 6: a bunch of kids that beat the Russians and then

1927
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:49,240
Speaker 6: went on to beat Finland for the goal. But here

1928
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 6: you have a team of NHL players playing against Canada's

1929
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 6: best NHL players and they pull out the win. Jack Hughes,

1930
01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:00,679
Speaker 6: I mean, how can you not like that he gets

1931
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 6: hit in that he gets hit in the face of

1932
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 6: the stick, he loses three teeth, and he's of course

1933
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 6: the game winning goal.

1934
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's hockey, baby.

1935
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 1: And you know what, here's something else I was talking

1936
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 1: about with somebody else wild Man yesterday, and it was

1937
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: the fact that sid the kid who's not a kid anymore,

1938
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: he's thirty eight years old, he didn't play, he was hurt.

1939
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 1: And do you think there was an element of let's

1940
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: win one for Sidney Crosby. Do you think there was

1941
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 1: that was at work at all in that amazing out there?

1942
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know how close that that Canada

1943
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 6: team is. I don't know how close they are. I

1944
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 6: know your Team USA, how close they are. They stayed

1945
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 6: in the Olympic village while Canada stayed in a hotel,

1946
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 6: So I don't know, Uh, Sidney Crosby could have made

1947
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 6: a difference. I love Sidney Crosby, but let me get

1948
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 6: back to this. This victory by Team USA. The goalie

1949
01:52:56,280 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 6: Connor Heiderbuck of the Winnipeg Jets. That guy stood on

1950
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 6: his head stopping forty one shots, and his performance when

1951
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 6: you look at it, much similar to what Jim Craig

1952
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 6: did in nineteen eighty. I mean that Jim Craig saves it,

1953
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 6: but still I can't believe that how they pulled that out.

1954
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 6: I mean, and then when you look at Team USA,

1955
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 6: here's the stat that stands out in this toll tournament.

1956
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 6: They were eighteen for eighteen on the penalty kill throughout

1957
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:31,160
Speaker 6: the tournament. Eighteen for eighteen. They gave up no power

1958
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 6: play goals.

1959
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 3: That is amazing. It's amazing.

1960
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 6: Now the kids, of course, of course, after the game,

1961
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 6: what happens. President Trump calls the locker room, invites them

1962
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 6: to the White House. They're going to a They're gonna

1963
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 6: fly a military plane down to them. They might scrubbly

1964
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 6: already there maybe, And now they're going to have him

1965
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 6: at the State of the Union address, And he already

1966
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 6: said that he would invite the men's and women's hockey

1967
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 6: team to the White House soon.

1968
01:53:57,760 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about the girls?

1969
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 1: Wild man, the women's team, I mean, in almost the

1970
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 1: same fashion as far as you know, overtime and all

1971
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:10,800
Speaker 1: that winning gold. When when was the last time has

1972
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 1: it ever happened where both the men's and women's hockey

1973
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:15,720
Speaker 1: team won Olympic gold in the same Olympics?

1974
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 6: Is that it don't hold me to this. I think

1975
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 6: it's the second time, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

1976
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 6: But either either way and it's great to be you know,

1977
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 6: to be so proud of these guys and all the

1978
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,720
Speaker 6: girls on the on the on the hockey team, and

1979
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 6: all the guys on the hockey team. What did they say?

1980
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 6: They love America. This is where America. We're so proud

1981
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 6: of being American. So there was none of this immigration

1982
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 6: bs bringing it up or voting voting bs, but up.

1983
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 6: They were just proud to be part of America and

1984
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 6: they love America. If you don't like that, you don't.

1985
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 1: Have a pulse, well you can go have a pulse

1986
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:49,839
Speaker 1: in another country.

1987
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 3: How about it.

1988
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 6: If you don't like and I'll drive them to the airport.

1989
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 1: If you don't like we love America, then go to Cuba.

1990
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 3: See see what that like for a little while, I

1991
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 3: dare you? All right? So what what about?

1992
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 6: Was one of the best ever for the United States.

1993
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 6: Thirty three medals, twelve gold, I mean, what what?

1994
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 2: What hell? It was?

1995
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 6: It was a great Olympics. It really was the United States.

1996
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 1: Somebody said too that it seemed like it was over

1997
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 1: so quick, like, uh, you know, you bet I.

1998
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 6: Would agree with you. I thought there was a couple

1999
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 6: more events, but I looked and said, well that was

2000
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 6: the last event, the gold medal game.

2001
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 3: You blinked in and it was over. So let's switch gears.

2002
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 1: Wild Man, let's talk a little bit about what you

2003
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 1: see basketball did on the road to Kansas. Is this

2004
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 1: a precursor of things to come or just an aberration

2005
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 1: because Kansas has been this year especially one of those

2006
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: teams that looked like a different team almost every time

2007
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 1: they went out on the floor, and Saturday they just

2008
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 1: weren't there.

2009
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 6: Great, that was my second topic. Yeah, kudos do you

2010
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 6: see for the for the upset and win at number

2011
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 6: eight Kansas where they only they've only lost one home

2012
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 6: game all season. Kansas has been up and down, Like

2013
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:06,920
Speaker 6: you said, the Bearcats, Yeah, they won, They've won I

2014
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 6: think four in a row now. But let's keep this

2015
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 6: really real. Let's keep this really real. In order for

2016
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 6: the Bearcats to make the NCAA Tournament, they're gonna have

2017
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 6: to win at least maybe two games in the Big

2018
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 6: twelve tournament and they still got a couple of games

2019
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 6: that's gonna be whether they win or lose, they're gonna

2020
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 6: be tough for them. And then you know, when the

2021
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 6: experts look at the how they're gonna decede what they

2022
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 6: make you see into the tournament. They've had some horrible

2023
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 6: losses to some lousy teams. They really have, so it's

2024
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 6: gonna almost take divine intervention.

2025
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 3: It's nice.

2026
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 6: I mean, it's the first first win over a ranked

2027
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 6: team on the roads, that's what nineteen ninety nine something

2028
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 6: like that in.

2029
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 2: A large grade.

2030
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 6: I'm happy for him. Yeah, but I'm gonna I'm keeping

2031
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 6: it real year. I don't think that they have to

2032
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 6: win two, maybe three games in the Big twelve tournament

2033
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 6: in order to get in, and I don't see that happening.

2034
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see what they do on the road

2035
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 1: tomorrow night against Texas Tech. The game's on right before

2036
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 1: I get here. On Tuesday night. What the other really

2037
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 1: it was? It was a weekend of upsets, really kind

2038
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 1: of upsets. I mean, i'd say Duke Michigan. I mean,

2039
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 1: that's as close as they come. And Duke had the

2040
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: Wolverines number yesterday or Saturday.

2041
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, and it.

2042
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 6: Was and it was at Cameron Field House, so that

2043
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 6: makes a difference.

2044
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, But I got a chance to see some

2045
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 1: of the highlights. I didn't watch the game, I'll be

2046
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 1: honest with you there, Cam Boozer great player and all

2047
01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 1: around player. Not just a score, but rebound court vision

2048
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 1: is unbelievable, So you know, he was definitely a difference

2049
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 1: maker in that game against Michigan on Saturday. I was

2050
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 1: very disappointed with my Vanderbilt Commodores who lost to Tennessee

2051
01:57:57,400 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 1: at home. They are still missing one of their key players,

2052
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 1: a guy named Duke Miles, who hasn't been there for

2053
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: about a month. You know, he needs to get back

2054
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: in time for the SEC tournament to solidify Vanderbilt spot.

2055
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean, they're twenty one and six and Joe Lenardi

2056
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 1: has had him in the tournament for a couple of

2057
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 1: weeks now. But they got to win some of these

2058
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: games down the stretch in the Southeastern Conference. And Kentucky

2059
01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 1: losing just by you know, the hair of their chinny

2060
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 1: chin chin to Auburn. Many people said that was a

2061
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 1: bogus play that their player got called Chandler got called

2062
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 1: for at the end of the game. But the dude

2063
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 1: obviously pushed the Auburn player and fouled him. It wasn't

2064
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 1: just a flop. So, you know, UK fans just have

2065
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 1: to what would what would Wilman say something it I

2066
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 1: don't know any other thoughts on college hoops.

2067
01:58:56,720 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 6: Well, when you talk about the Nickbrock Kentucky, their fans,

2068
01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 6: they want to foul in every play. I've been down

2069
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 6: the Rupper Arena now they want a foul call on

2070
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 6: every play. You'd be there until till next year. If

2071
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 6: you listen to the fans in the stands crying for

2072
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 6: fowls and just gets talk about something that's old and tired.

2073
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 6: Kentucky fans crying about fowls. We can't forget about the

2074
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 6: Miami RedHawks man twenty six and oh another another another win,

2075
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 6: not a hard fought win, but they really handled a

2076
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 6: bowling grant after they once they got rolling. But the

2077
01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 6: thing that really irks me, and I've got a case

2078
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 6: of the goo, is that the CBS Sports Network, which

2079
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 6: carried that game, they go to their halftime show and

2080
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 6: their nerd announcer Miami of Ohio. Miami of Ohio. Well,

2081
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 6: what you know, get it together, man, and I'll tell

2082
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 6: you the Miami alumni needs to start raising hell with NBC, CBS, ABC,

2083
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 6: Fox and all of them. It's Miami University. It's not

2084
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:00,440
Speaker 6: Miami of Ohio. It's joke.

2085
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 2: They need to stop it.

2086
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 6: It's Miami.

2087
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:05,879
Speaker 1: I think they should call it Toga University because Animal

2088
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:08,640
Speaker 1: House was based on a frat house at Miami.

2089
02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 3: You knew that, didn't you?

2090
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 6: No, I did not know that. I've never heard that before.

2091
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 7: But Animal House.

2092
02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 6: I could recite lines all day from that zone. Don't

2093
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 6: get mad, get even that drunken, stupid, It's nowhere to

2094
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 6: go through life? Son?

2095
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 3: Did we give up?

2096
02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 6: Did we give up when the rooms are filled with

2097
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 6: underwear every fall the toilet's explode?

2098
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 3: Did we give up when the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor?

2099
02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 7: Hell?

2100
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 6: No, forget it. He's rolling and it ain't over.

2101
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 9: Now.

2102
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 3: What have I now it? Get it?

2103
02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 2: Get it you? Oh god?

2104
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:52,560
Speaker 6: I mean a classic. I got to get this in here. Gary, Jeff,

2105
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 6: I know you don't probably don't follow this, but the

2106
02:00:55,440 --> 02:01:01,520
Speaker 6: Professional Bowling Association Tour began yesterday with at the tournament championship,

2107
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,920
Speaker 6: and a twenty two year old rookie by the name

2108
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:08,920
Speaker 6: of Brian Bonnett rolled a three hundred game to win

2109
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 6: the tournament championship. He pocketed ten thousand dollars were rolling

2110
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 6: the three hundred, and then he got one hundred thousand

2111
02:01:16,040 --> 02:01:21,400
Speaker 6: dollars for winning the PBA Championship I watched this on

2112
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 6: CW and this guy was talking about locked in. But

2113
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 6: he's a rookie. He's a rookie in his first victory

2114
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 6: on the PBA Tour and then to close it out,

2115
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 6: he rolls a three hundred.

2116
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:37,200
Speaker 1: Great bowling knows no age limits, wild man. I have

2117
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 1: a customer at the bar where I work. His name

2118
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 1: is Rob Williams, and he has two three hundred games.

2119
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 3: Two.

2120
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 1: It's hard enough to have one three hundred game. They said,

2121
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:52,160
Speaker 1: it's harder to have a three hundred game than have

2122
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:54,200
Speaker 1: a hole in one at any golf course.

2123
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 6: And well, I have a buddy named by Brian Himmler

2124
02:01:57,440 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 6: who bowled on the tour. He runs the pro shop

2125
02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:03,360
Speaker 6: out of Cherry Grove Lands. He has like eight three

2126
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 6: hundred games. Oh my good guy. Yeah, he won the

2127
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:10,040
Speaker 6: Milwaukee Open a few years ago. But yeah, bowling, bowllying

2128
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 6: in Cincinnati, bullying in the Tri State, that has always

2129
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 6: been huge. It really has. It's still alive. And well,

2130
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 6: you've got high school teams that have bowling laces because

2131
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:22,560
Speaker 6: now because now you can get a scholarship for bowling

2132
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 6: to go to college. I mean it's still large.

2133
02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 2: It really is.

2134
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the sport that's non corporate for the most part.

2135
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 1: There's sponsors obviously putting up prize money and hosting tournaments,

2136
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:39,960
Speaker 1: but it's non corporate. It's not a bunch of billionaires

2137
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:43,880
Speaker 1: who were in charge of the bowling hierarchy like in

2138
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:50,520
Speaker 1: football and basketball and baseball. Yeah, and it's an individual sport,

2139
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 1: and I love individual sports. We watched the PG eight

2140
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:57,840
Speaker 1: the Genesis Invitational, the final round yesterday afternoon, and it

2141
02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:01,240
Speaker 1: didn't matter that it was one of the big names

2142
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 1: that won. A kid named Jacob Bridgman won his first

2143
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 1: ever PGA tournament, been on the tour for like a

2144
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:11,560
Speaker 1: couple of years and finally broke through. And Roy McElroy

2145
02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:15,520
Speaker 1: and even Scotti Scheffler, who finally came back and had

2146
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 1: a decent round finished in the top eighteen when he

2147
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 1: was last to make the cut after Friday's stuff. So,

2148
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I love individual sports where it's one guy

2149
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:32,080
Speaker 1: against the rest of them and you're there on your

2150
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Speaker 1: I just love that.

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Speaker 3: And I love that aspect for bowling. You brought bowling up.

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Speaker 6: I loved the ball. I mean I bowled up until

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Speaker 6: about ten ten years ago. I bowled at Kingpin Lanes,

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Speaker 6: which is no longer there. I bowled at Cherry Grove Lanes.

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Speaker 6: I bowled at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I used to I used to bowl with you at

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Speaker 1: Cherry Grove Lanes back when you had the EBN team,

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Speaker 1: the EBN League.

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Speaker 6: Fun.

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Speaker 2: That was fun.

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Speaker 6: That was everybody had fun there.

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Speaker 3: We really did. I really yeah. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You can absolutely suck at bowling and still have a

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Speaker 1: good time.

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Speaker 3: That's a great thing about it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you the fun you missed on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I know you couldn't get a ride yet the Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Morning Edition party.

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Speaker 1: I will forward you the group photo of the many

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Speaker 1: luminaries and listeners who were there, including Jim Lebarber, the

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Speaker 1: music professor Science, Mike Dick from Dayton, Lynette at Old Radio,

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Speaker 1: Rick Washburn. The list goes on, and it was just

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Speaker 1: a fantastic time. And I felt so touched that all

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Speaker 1: those people listen to my Saturday morning show and then

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Speaker 1: just promoting it on that show. The station doesn't have

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Speaker 1: anything to do with it. They're surprised I'm still are here,

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Speaker 1: but but I just promoted this. Furball did not make it,

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Speaker 1: and I believe me, I will, I will take him

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Speaker 1: to task tomorrow night.

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Speaker 6: The discipplant him good. I disciplined him good.

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Speaker 3: So why didn't you make it? You couldn't get a ride.

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Speaker 6: I couldn't get a ride. I couldn't get my you know,

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Speaker 6: because my mobility is kind of tough. In order to

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Speaker 6: get my scooter out, my buddy Bob hurt his shoulder

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Speaker 6: and he really can't lift that scooter out.

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Speaker 7: So right, so maybe.

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Speaker 6: Next year, God willing, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, it's going to be that time. Wild Man, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to get you a visiting angel.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I could use one.

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Speaker 7: I would like that.

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Speaker 6: I would like that him, you're going to arrange it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, are you ready for this?

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Speaker 6: I can't name that. I really can't name the company,

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Speaker 6: but a company has donated me now a power chair.

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Speaker 6: They've donated a power chair I'm getting to deliver tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: It came out of the blue and then they've done

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Speaker 6: me this powerchair. Like it's like three thousand dollars powerchairs.

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Speaker 6: I'm getting rid of the scooter and this power chair

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Speaker 6: only weighs sixty nine pounds. I can lift out myself

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Speaker 6: into the car. How about that?

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02:05:56,400 --> 02:06:00,400
Speaker 1: So the powerchair will still allow you to be mobile

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02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:02,280
Speaker 1: outside of your your domain.

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Speaker 6: Oh oh yeah, absolutely, Oh yeah, oh yeah. So it's

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02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:08,240
Speaker 6: going to be delivered tomorrow afternoon sometime.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well the congratulations congratulations.

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Speaker 6: I mean this came out of the blue.

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Speaker 7: God.

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Speaker 1: So we had the Reds first spring training game on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Are you excited? Are you getting excited again?

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Speaker 6: Oh, Carrie, Jeff. I mean they played, they played two

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02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:28,880
Speaker 6: games in rowe and two. But they hear some of

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02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 6: these putnits on TV acting like the Reds are going

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02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:33,760
Speaker 6: to win the World Series because they went out there

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02:06:33,800 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 6: and saw them hitting batting practice, and then then saw

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Speaker 6: them throw and throw and and saw them pitch them

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Speaker 6: and then practice. You know, these spring training games mean

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02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:47,360
Speaker 6: absolutely nothing. I recall years ago the Washington Senators. I

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02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:50,800
Speaker 6: think they lost like two games in spring training, end

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02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 6: up losing one and one hundred and two the next

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02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:56,280
Speaker 6: year and finished fifteen games out of first place. But

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Speaker 6: they go out there and say, oh, the Reds look

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02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 6: good because I saw a guy throwing on a side somebody.

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Speaker 6: This is a story long long ago when Bill Bangert

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02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 6: worked at w E Remember Bill go out, he got

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Speaker 6: to go out the spring training I did for some reason.

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Speaker 6: I forget what happened. It was cold, I think because

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02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:14,160
Speaker 6: of the Graves incident. And Bill came back. I was

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02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 6: telling me, Yeah, there's this so and so and so

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02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 6: and so. I saw this, and he goes, Paul Wilson

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Speaker 6: is looking real good. I said, Bill, what does that mean?

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Speaker 6: He looks real good.

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02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:24,720
Speaker 7: I said, he isn't even thrown a game yet.

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Speaker 6: I said, that doesn't mean anything. Paul Wilson, by the

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02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:29,920
Speaker 6: end of the year, was released hit an er Avil

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Speaker 6: about about one hundred. The guy sucks so bad, but

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Speaker 6: he looked good. He looked good springs training.

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Speaker 3: You can't tell anything from spring training, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: You can't tell Jack Quatt, No, you can't.

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Speaker 1: Every once in a while there is a player who

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Speaker 1: consistently impresses and makes the club and he wasn't expected

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02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:48,880
Speaker 1: to make the club.

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02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:51,640
Speaker 3: You'll give it that. I mean, it's good for that, right.

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Speaker 6: Oh god, I mean, let's go back to Chris Sebo

2246
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 6: went back in the day. Yeah, that guy you know,

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02:07:57,400 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 6: took the Reds by storm.

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02:07:58,520 --> 02:07:58,680
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Every year there always seems to be one guy who

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Speaker 6: might make the team or might have be sent down

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Speaker 6: because of the roster situation. Yeah, you're absolutely right.

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02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:08,760
Speaker 1: So I mean, that's what you're really watching for. You're

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02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:10,920
Speaker 1: not going to get anything that's going to be indicative

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Speaker 1: of the team's performance over one hundred and sixty two

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Speaker 1: game regular season because injuries happen, and you know, anything

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02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:20,480
Speaker 1: can happen in a long baseball season, So you having

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Speaker 1: spring training as your barometer for how a team is

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Speaker 1: going to do is just absolute.

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Speaker 6: But for the so called experts, which is just a

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Speaker 6: joke on TV, some of them to say, oh, the

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Speaker 6: Reds have got everything going for him right now, and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, why do you know that. You you went

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02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 6: out there and saw them hit and batting practice.

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Speaker 1: Wild man, they're doing exactly what we're doing, filling time.

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Speaker 3: Because they have filling time.

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02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:48,200
Speaker 6: And I'm shaking my head and throwing something at the TV.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not the TV's fault. Just remember that, Elvis.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 6: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Robert Goula, All right, Bud, listen, have a fantastic rest

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02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 1: of the night.

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Speaker 3: There's not much of it. Well, you're a night owl,

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02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:03,600
Speaker 3: so you'll be up for hours.

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Speaker 7: But oh yea, because leave it.

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Speaker 6: The Beaver comes on at two o'clock on the Family Channel. Yeah,

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02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:08,800
Speaker 6: so I'll be watching Leave It the Beaver.

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Speaker 3: I have a good rest of the evening. We'll talk

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02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 3: to you see. Be Bye, Wild, Goodbye.

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Speaker 1: We'll close the nightcap next on seven hundred WLW