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Speaker 1: I'm talking the way pitt used to be, the way

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Speaker 1: Dukene used to be. Pittsburgh was once a basketball town,

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Speaker 1: but not no more. So let's talk basketball at Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: with Tommy Radio. Tom you're a dedicated pitt fan, which

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Speaker 1: makes you a masochist.

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Speaker 2: Obviously got killed by Duke on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I miss so much about the old pitt basketball, most

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Speaker 1: of it before your time.

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Speaker 2: But Ben Holland and Jamie Dixon coaching the Big.

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Speaker 1: East, Carl Krauser throwing up gang signs, send it in Jerome,

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Speaker 1: and now that's all gone.

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Speaker 3: None of that is before my time though. That was

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Speaker 3: when I was coming of age as a sports fan, and.

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Speaker 2: That's why guy was with the Condors.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like Ben Holland making that program into something, Brandon

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Speaker 3: Knight and that team finally beating Jim Calhoun and Yukon

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Speaker 3: and then the Jamie Dixon era obviously with guys like

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Speaker 3: Krowser that you mentioned and getting that pipeline from New York.

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Speaker 3: I was becoming a sports fan when Pitt was perennially

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Speaker 3: ranked in the top ten, always a national championship contender.

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Speaker 3: So it's easy for me to fall in love with

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Speaker 1: And that weren't good enough for them. That's why they

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Speaker 1: they have done pointedly worse ever since.

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Speaker 2: I loved the Big East too.

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Speaker 1: There is nothing Atlantic Coast about Pitt Pittsburgh, in Pitt basketball,

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Speaker 1: the Big East was basketball for football fans. It was

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Speaker 1: wonderful and there's never been electricity like the Big East

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Speaker 2: Without question.

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Speaker 3: That's a part of the downfall of Pitt basketball is

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Speaker 3: that they're not in the Big East anymore, and that

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Speaker 2: It's it still exists. There's still some of those old teams.

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Speaker 1: But I would rather see Pitt in this version of

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Speaker 3: Because so many times as I go to most of

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Speaker 2: I don't care about those.

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Speaker 3: There ain't nothing means nothing to me, I need pitt

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Speaker 3: Yukon Saint John's Marquette. All those old school matchups in

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Speaker 3: the old Big East CC basketball was too finessy. The

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Speaker 3: And Pitt, just with halland and then Dixon, just nailed

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Speaker 3: what you needed to have in that conference, that pipeline

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Speaker 3: tough guys. Their point guards were always like street New

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Speaker 3: For some biggest teams it would, but for Pitt it

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Speaker 3: never really could. They couldn't get over that hump. But Mark,

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Speaker 1: Sad to think about what was and what isn't anymore.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a Zeppelin song. Uh. Doctor J was

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Speaker 2: It used to be would just go play. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: When you look at some of those AAU programs at

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Speaker 3: Most recruiting is done through AAU right now. College basketball

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Speaker 3: And I don't dispute that the scouting circuit is now

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Speaker 1: Well, you're right in saying, and this goes for every

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because they're still trying to win two Now.

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Speaker 1: And then the Pipers immediately moved to Minneapolis, which is

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Speaker 3: I mean, the fact that the MVP was under what

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Speaker 3: Probably everybody gets in the basketball Connie Hawk is he deserved.

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Speaker 1: People might not think that, but what they play now

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Speaker 2: It's Big East style basketball.

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Speaker 3: And you know college basketball can still play that kind

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Speaker 3: with the pros. Though, Mark, it's not the three pointing

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Speaker 1: They just took forgotten they're in the entertainment business and

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Speaker 1: But by the way, those Pittsburgh Pipers in sixty seven

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Speaker 1: I said they were called the Wrens. That's not true.

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Speaker 1: Their last game was at home in nineteen seventy two

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure. There's a book about the

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Speaker 1: And that movie Will Ferrell semi pro it rings very true.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh isn't a basketball time, but it was and it

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Speaker 1: could be again, but it's tough.

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Speaker 2: Pitt doesn't play Ducaine.

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Speaker 1: That used to be a focal point for basketball in

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Speaker 1: That was like a rallying day for basketball in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: And now Pitt won't do it, won't play Ducaine. Pitt

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Speaker 1: always used to get into March madness. But Pitt stinks now.

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Speaker 1: Like Tom and I were talking about, Pete used to

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Speaker 1: It used to be a big deal. Like I mentioned

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Speaker 3: And it's just so stupid that they don't play anymore.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree that heatherla like when she was AD,

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Speaker 1: They ruined it for money, the conference realignment, the free

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Speaker 1: Uh check out my column about Porter v Ben at

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Speaker 1: You gave me a revelation about the Olympic Hockey Tournament.

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Speaker 1: Right right, And that's ridiculous because you can go oh

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Speaker 1: my job at all, which is Canada and Switzerland. Not

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Speaker 1: because I think Switzerland can win, but it'll kind of

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Speaker 1: show where Canada's mentality is at that's the best word,

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Speaker 1: because Switzerland will pack it in and just try to

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Speaker 1: keep Canada from scoring and then you know, attempt to

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Speaker 1: watch Connor attax off turnovers. So while I think there's

444
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Speaker 1: no way Canada loses, I think it's a test for

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Speaker 1: what they're ready to do, how they're ready to adjust

446
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Speaker 1: through this tournament.

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Speaker 3: Because you noted in their first game yesterday against Chechia

448
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Speaker 3: they were so loose. I mean they were just up

449
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Speaker 3: and down the ice and their speed was just overwhelming

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Speaker 3: for check You. But Checkie was getting a lot of

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Speaker 3: shots on Canada too, and Bennington had to play really well.

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Speaker 3: Swiss probably won't want to get into that game like

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Speaker 3: check You indulge them on that going back and forth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they'll they'll want to hit on the counter

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Speaker 1: from playing good defense. The thing is, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they have the firepower to do it. I mean, Yosi

457
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Speaker 1: can launch Yose's great defenseman and he'll be out there

458
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Speaker 1: thirty some odd minutes.

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Speaker 2: So it'll be an interesting game.

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Speaker 1: There's a debate on Twitter over over what Sid values

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Speaker 1: more is Olympic medals or Stanley Cupps. Sid on record

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Speaker 1: as saying the Stanley Cupps, and you know, he says

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Speaker 1: that in sid manner where he's not denigrating and very

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Speaker 1: much valuing the six international gold medals as well. But

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Speaker 1: in Canada, you're raised to win the Stanley Cup. And

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Speaker 1: I think some of the players who value the Olympics more,

467
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Speaker 1: you know, for the USA or Canada are players that

468
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Speaker 1: have never won a Stanley Cupper, never been on a

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Speaker 1: team that had a serious threat to do so. Although

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Speaker 1: Matthew Kachuck he's certainly the best of both worlds in

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Speaker 1: terms of winning two Stanley Cups and now being on

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Speaker 1: a team that could win Olympic goal.

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Speaker 3: If you're in Matthew ka Chuck's shoes, I think you

474
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Speaker 3: want to get that gold right to complete that stung.

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Speaker 1: I think he came back later than he might have

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Speaker 1: this year from injury, surgery, all that stuff that happened

477
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Speaker 1: to him because he wanted to make sure he was

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent for the Olympics. He came back just

479
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Speaker 1: soon enough to get some games in and knock the

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Speaker 1: rust off before Milan with Sid though, and that's okay,

481
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Speaker 1: by the way, He's done his part for Florida to

482
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Speaker 1: be sure. It's like when Mario, uh, you know, took

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Speaker 1: some games off a month or so, really to make

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Speaker 1: sure he was as healthy as he could be for

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and two Olympics. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: at that point could accuse Mario Lemieux of not having

487
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Speaker 1: done enough for the Pittsburgh Penguins and with sid Quin,

488
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Speaker 1: although some still did. Of what he values more the

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Speaker 1: cup of the medal. I mean, the cup is on

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Speaker 1: record that he values that more, but the beauty of

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Speaker 1: CITs he doesn't have to choose. He's got two gold

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Speaker 1: medals at the Olympics, got more at other international competitions. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: he's got three Stanley Cups. And I was just sitting

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Speaker 1: and thinking about yesterday.

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Speaker 3: If he gets his third gold medal for Canada at

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Speaker 3: the Olympic Games, I mean, it's it's almost like your

497
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Speaker 3: numb again to these accomplishments. But it's still remarkable to

498
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Speaker 3: hit the trifecta there.

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Speaker 1: When do you think the best kids ever played was?

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Speaker 1: Because I got an easy answer for that, but it's one.

501
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Speaker 1: It's one his best run of play, and it's one

502
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Speaker 1: people won't necessarily remember as much.

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Speaker 3: He was playing unbelievably right where he was getting hurt,

504
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Speaker 3: like in the twenty ten, eleven twelve, like in between

505
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Speaker 3: the cup eras like he was freaking nuts.

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Speaker 1: But that's not when he got hurt, Yeah, because he

507
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Speaker 1: was on pace for like one hundred and seventy time. Yeah,

508
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Speaker 1: but well the year he got hurt, he was on

509
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Speaker 1: an absurd scoring pace. But but that wasn't on the

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Speaker 1: big stage. I think the best he did on a

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Speaker 1: big stage was the twenty sixteen World Cup of Hockey,

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Speaker 1: where he just ripped through it like a fire in

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Speaker 1: a dry forest and he was MVP.

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Speaker 2: Canada won easily.

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Speaker 1: And I think he certainly played great, greater, greatest before

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Speaker 1: and after. But if I had to pick a high

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Speaker 1: point for his actual performance, yeah, it was that World

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Speaker 1: Cup of Hockey.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's off a Stanley Cup two then it

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Speaker 3: fed into another Stanley Cup, so he was just he

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Speaker 3: was literally dominating the hockey world for two years.

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Speaker 1: Oh Sid, I mean, like I never really had to

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Speaker 1: be money could make me consider that Sid would be

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Speaker 1: better than Mario, and I still don't. But the gap

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Speaker 1: is a lot closer than I envisioned it would be.

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Speaker 1: And in general, the gap between Sid and my top three,

527
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Speaker 1: which I thought would be maintained forever Lemieux or in Gretzky.

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Speaker 1: I mean Sid's fourth by an eyelash at this point.

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Speaker 1: He never gonna get past Lemieux. But like that GAP's

530
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Speaker 1: going to keep shrinking.

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Speaker 3: I think if he keeps playing this well and gets

532
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Speaker 3: older and older, and keeps playing at a high level,

533
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Speaker 3: he knows the two thousand points.

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Speaker 1: You know, it would spark the debate if Canada wins

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Speaker 1: this gold medal and Sid's the MVP of the tournament

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Speaker 1: at thirty eight, or if Sid will win another Stanley Cup. Yes,

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Speaker 1: in fact, I got to tell you if he does both,

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Speaker 1: which is the longest of shots, not this Olympic gold

539
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Speaker 1: so much, or MVP in these games so much. But

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Speaker 1: I think the Penguins, despite getting a lot better and

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Speaker 1: arriving a bit early, I still think that his career

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Speaker 1: is beyond their timetable unless he plays longer than I

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Speaker 1: think he will, which he might.

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Speaker 3: To your point, like a third Gold and then a

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Speaker 3: fourth Cup, you match Gretzky as far as Cups were concerned,

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Speaker 3: you definitely are going to open up the argument even

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Speaker 3: more so again with the two thousand points, which I

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Speaker 3: think he can achieve too.

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Speaker 2: That's going to close the gap between him and those

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Speaker 2: top three.

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Speaker 1: Ca Am, I gonna get one quick conversation about about

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Speaker 1: Porter v Ben. Uh. We were on the air yesterday

553
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Speaker 1: when when Ab came out in supporting Ben. Marquise ponce did.

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Speaker 1: I think that was right after we went off the

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Speaker 1: air correct Instagram? Yeah, and he said basically, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you trying to put down Ben, f you he

557
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Speaker 1: goes clops a bad thing. And that was a pointed

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Speaker 1: shot at Porter. And I'm glad Poncey did it.

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Speaker 3: The non scrubs right are starting to come out and speak,

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Speaker 3: you know, the the borderline Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy the guys who supported Ben, or Poncey

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Speaker 1: and Ab, the guys who put you know, thumbs up

563
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Speaker 1: emojis on what Porter said, or Tyler Metakevitch and Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then here's Antio Brown and Marky's Pouncy coming to

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Speaker 3: the fold. And I still can't get over the more

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Speaker 3: I think about it too, how Joey Porter barely played

568
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Speaker 3: with Ben Roethlisberger, and the Ben Roethlisberger that he played

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Speaker 3: with was a rookie Ben Roethlisberger, A young Ben Roethlisberger

570
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Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to be a leader.

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Speaker 1: It's because he's trying to prop up the myth of

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Speaker 1: Mike Tom wh and a boy, what a myth that

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Speaker 1: is at this point. And I think he thought that

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Speaker 1: Art Rooney would like him saying that because he's trying

575
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Speaker 1: so bad to get a job.

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Speaker 3: How could you misread something so poorly? Though, I mean,

577
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Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger is an icon.

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Speaker 2: Hart hasn't said anything about it.

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Speaker 3: No, because I think it's it's smart thing for Ben's

580
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Speaker 3: sake to just move on and let this new cycle die.

581
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Speaker 3: Art two, probably he shouldn't say anything at all. Well,

582
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Speaker 3: James Harrison, he'll cut a promo glaring yelling, hey Porter,

583
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Speaker 3: I just see I dragged myself into talking about it again.

584
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Speaker 2: But it really does make me mad.

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Speaker 1: And I just don't see that anybody, you know, would

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Speaker 1: think that anything good would come from it, and nothing

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Speaker 1: has except for you know, the usual suspects, you know,

588
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Speaker 1: including a lot of people listening to this program getting

589
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Speaker 1: mad at Ben because they just need an excuse.

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Speaker 3: And as far as the shot about Clout, you know,

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Speaker 3: chasing Clout from Marquise Pouncy. I mean that we've talked

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Speaker 3: about it for the past couple of days. How could

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Speaker 3: Cam Hayward not say something in the moment, but then

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Speaker 3: furthermore not edit it out because he sat down and

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Speaker 3: thought and talked to his producer on that show and said,

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Speaker 3: this would go viral, this will be big for the

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Speaker 3: podcast for him to say it, and he made a

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Speaker 3: decision based on the podcast, not on the team and

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Speaker 3: logo that he currently serves.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: So many people are saying this doesn't reflect at all

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Speaker 1: on the current team, but I disagree with that. I

603
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Speaker 1: think it drags the logo through the excrement. Yet again,

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Speaker 1: it happens way too often, and the more that happens,

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Speaker 1: the harder.

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Speaker 2: It is to get the stink off it.

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Speaker 1: The first hour of the show brought to you by Shandrorovic,

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Speaker 1: Shandrovitch and Fisherman.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mark Madden one oh five to nine.

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Speaker 4: It's The Woody Show weekday mornings at six yeah one.

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Speaker 2: From the one oh five nine the ex Weather Center.

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Speaker 3: This report is sponsored by Double Am on X.

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Speaker 1: This hour brought to us by sender Ovi, shender Overs

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Speaker 1: and Fisherman. Let's go to Tommy radio for the trifecta mark.

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Speaker 3: Today is Friday the thirteenth, So for today's trifecta, I've

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Speaker 3: got three of very common superstitions that sometimes I even

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Speaker 3: you know, get in my own head. About number three,

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00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 3: when you spill salt and then you have to throw

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Speaker 3: it over your left shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever do that? Do you throw the salt

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Speaker 2: over your left shoulder? Yes? Yeah, I do too. I don't.

622
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't often use salt. Well, this died, I do

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Speaker 2: awake in one to eighty.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of like an electrolyte, the way they define

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Speaker 1: what you can't I can't have.

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Speaker 2: But w yeah I do. Yeah, I do too. It's

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Speaker 2: so stupid, right, why do we do that?

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Speaker 3: But but I go out of my way to not

629
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Speaker 3: spill it me too, cause up, I'm nervous about it. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm very careful with my salt, but every time I

631
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Speaker 3: do take a pinch and throw it over his shoulder.

632
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Also got a shout out dumb and dumber when they

633
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Speaker 3: throw the salt over the shoulder and it hits sea

634
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Speaker 3: bass that that ignites their feud at the restaurant.

635
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: Which ends in a men's room.

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Speaker 3: Stall Number two is knocking on wood. I do that

637
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Speaker 3: all the time, like with and that's really with anything,

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00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: Like you say something that you don't want to come true, Oh,

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00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: knock on wood on that, or like, oh I hope

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Speaker 3: Crosby makes it through the Olympics without getting a hurt,

641
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Speaker 3: knock on wood.

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Speaker 2: Like I just do that constantly. I call it touchwood,

643
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Speaker 2: but I do it touchwood. Same thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I will often touch something that's not wood

645
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: and just say anything. Yeah, I can touch like a

646
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: wall that's made out of metal. Anything works. But the

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Speaker 3: number one superstition that kind of freaks me out, stops

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Speaker 3: me in my track if I do see a black

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Speaker 3: cat in the wild, Like if I see a black

650
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Speaker 3: cat scurry across the street, it's like, WHOA, that's a

651
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Speaker 3: little weird. Is that a devil himself walking across the street.

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Speaker 2: But there's no way to undo that one.

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Speaker 1: You can't throw the salt over your shoulder, you can't

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Speaker 1: touch wood the black cat path. I know.

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Speaker 3: That's why it's so scary, and you just have to

656
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Speaker 3: be on edge for I don't know how long it lasts,

657
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, but and that one goes

658
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: back for forever, like people in ancient Egypt used to

659
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Speaker 3: be afraid of cats, and like had superstitions with cat.

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Speaker 1: These are traditional superstitions. Want to hear one I have that?

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Speaker 1: That probably and I'm really OCD. I'm OCD like Sid.

662
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: It would be a great interview with Sid. And I

663
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: sat down and compared our OCD.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Since I was a teenager, every time I'm in an

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Speaker 1: elevator by myself, I touch all four walls. I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's based on there's a church, I

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00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 1: think the Pentecostal Church. They build round churches so Satan

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Speaker 1: can't hide in the corners. There's an example of that

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Speaker 1: on McKnight Road. Whatever church that is. I'm not the

671
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: meaning or making fun of any church the fact I

672
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: just can't remember which church that is. But I think

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Speaker 1: I'm clearing the demons out of the elevator. And if

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Speaker 1: I'm on an elevator with somebody, like say, I get

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Speaker 1: on an elevator.

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Speaker 2: This was in Niagara Falls. I was on the eighth floor.

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Speaker 1: If somebody would get on the seventh floor, I would

678
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: have already have touched the walls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you're good, right, yeah, But if they get off

680
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: on the fifth floor, I touched the walls again.

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Speaker 3: Oh, to re purify it exactly case they brought a

682
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Speaker 3: demon's energy into the elevator with you.

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Speaker 2: Why elevators, I don't know. That is a weird one.

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Speaker 2: I tend to get nervous on anything moving. Okay. I'm

685
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: not a good flyer, believe it or not. Even though

686
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Speaker 2: I fly a lot.

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Speaker 3: The paranoia with me with elevators would never be like,

688
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: you know, just dropping from the sky. It's always that

689
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: it's gonna stop and I'm just gonna be stuck there

690
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Speaker 3: for hours on end.

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Speaker 2: I hate being in crowded elevators because then the thought

692
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 3: Is the worst way worst. Yes, pile cost your phobe

694
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: on top of everything. Yeah, no doubt about it. That's

695
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: pretty bad though, the four corners thing in the elevator.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Noya, have you seen the Insuranoya commercials? No, people,

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00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: it's another insurance company commercial. People who were scared they

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00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: don't have too much insurance. I will say in an

699
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: era of American television, movies, radio was we prove every

700
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: day there is so little creativity left. Stuff that's different.

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00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: It's all a remake or a rehash. Insurance commercials in

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Speaker 1: America are top of the lot.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, like and something go to

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00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: other commercials as well, Like I feel like that's where

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00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: a lot of creative energy, especially on the comedy side

706
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: of things, is being put in, is to these insurance

707
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: person You even have characters built up, like lemu Emu

708
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: is one of the most popular characters that there is

709
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Speaker 3: in America.

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Speaker 2: Right, who's your favorite insurance character.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be Mayhem. I think that was the best

712
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: commercials that they've done.

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Speaker 1: I think Mayhem's the best. I also like JK. Simmons

714
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: and his and I do like Flow and her sidekicks too.

715
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: This isn't it and they're spinning off sidekicks like in

716
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: the dog Park, one of the other women has become

717
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: the main character in the dog park.

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Speaker 2: That's progressive correctly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this isn't a character per se, but the puns

720
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: that I forget which company does. But like when Rats

721
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: in the attic, Like we got rats in the attic

722
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: and it's the band rat that's in the attic playing.

723
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: There's a couple of different variations of those commercials, like

724
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Speaker 3: the ants or something, and probably it's just like a

725
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: bunch of old ants that are like.

726
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Speaker 2: You can very rarely and Joni's here.

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00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: You can barely rarely get the members of rat to

728
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: agree on anything these days.

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Speaker 2: But they agreed on that insurance commercial. They paid him

730
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Speaker 2: a lot for that. I'm sure, Yeah, Tom, I'm going

731
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Speaker 2: to get into this in just a second.

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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, the the trifecta brought to us

733
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Speaker 1: by Danny's Peach and Hogies family owned and operated Sin

734
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Speaker 1: It's nineteen sixty. That's Dandy's on Route eighty eight in

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Speaker 1: Bethel Park. Tom, I'm going to get into this at

736
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Speaker 1: length in just a moment by way of doing primarily

737
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Speaker 1: not cliches sports talk today. But this quarterback at all miss,

738
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Speaker 1: this Trinidad Chambliss who wants a six year of eligibility

739
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Speaker 1: and got denied by the NCAA but sued went to

740
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Speaker 1: court to get it.

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Speaker 2: Right now he has it. What's your take on all that?

742
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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's funny that he's been denied a

743
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: couple of times. He keeps going through appeal processes. He

744
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: finally found a judge that is an old Miss gret

745
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: and is an old miss fan and is that true? Yes,

746
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: and then approved him for his eligibility. So I don't

747
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: know if this is going to stick or not. To me, though,

748
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Speaker 3: I've never seen someone so scared to go to the NFL.

749
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Speaker 3: And I get now that he's got a big payday

750
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 3: waiting from it, old miss, maybe more money than I'll

751
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: ever see at the NFL. But isn't there any cling

752
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: inside of you that wants to bet on yourself If

753
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: you're Trinidad Chambliss and go to the NFL and get

754
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: to that next level.

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Speaker 2: What can he get more money at next year?

756
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Speaker 3: Ll Miss L or NFL NL, No question about it.

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00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: I mean, even if he were like sort of the

758
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: first round, it would be close, and the NFL will

759
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: still be there next year. And if you're playing well,

760
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: his stock goes up in a more loaded class presumably,

761
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Speaker 3: but it shouldn't matter anyway because he's playing well and

762
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: he's already well known. So yeah, you're right, But still

763
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Speaker 3: it's like you've been denied so many times at some

764
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: point when you just pun on it and be like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to the Senior Bowl in the combine.

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Speaker 1: Oh Tom, I'm again him staying at college. But I

767
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: also understand why. I think there's also ramifications to this

768
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: that the NFL will not like more on that just

769
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: around the corner one oh five to nine.

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Speaker 2: Now here's your chim