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Speaker 2: Probably twenty nine? Twenty nine is my favorite number?

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Speaker 1: Is it really twenty nine? Any particular reason? Is there

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Speaker 2: Wallack? I was a huge Tim Wallacks fan as a kid.

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Speaker 2: Interesting huge, Yeah, it was like I was a massive

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Speaker 1: That's it. So him, he was accommodating. He didn't like

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of funny, But yeah, twenty nine would

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us is this like a top secret

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Speaker 2: Probably probably C plus. I mean, you know, look, he's

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Speaker 2: they've won the last couple of games, Europe, who was

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Speaker 2: supposed to get a quick breather, is in the press spot.

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Speaker 2: I think where fans are really picked off, and justifiably so,

436
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Speaker 2: is that they look at the fact that you could

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Speaker 2: take a Tyler Pittlick out of the lineup and you're

438
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Speaker 2: probably not missing much at all by putting a Dinullar

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Speaker 2: Europe back in the lineup. And I guess my biggest question,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to talk ability about us today, is

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Speaker 2: now that Matt zu Grello is coming back, it's going

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Speaker 2: to make it even harder for Janella to get in.

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Speaker 2: So what is the best thing for him? You send

444
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Speaker 2: him to Iowa. You just put him in over one

445
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Speaker 2: of these kids that aren't one of these guys that

446
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Speaker 2: aren't the futures. It's a real convoluted one. It's a

447
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Speaker 2: convoluted answer to you. But it's a convoluted situation that

448
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Speaker 2: they find themselves in. And and you know, but this

449
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Speaker 2: is the conflict that they sometimes had. You know, like

450
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Speaker 2: Judd Brackett, I guarantee you is with the fans here.

451
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Speaker 2: He wants the guy to play and to play big roles.

452
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Speaker 2: But the reality is that this is not If John

453
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Speaker 2: Hines was told, look, we don't care about winning, just

454
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Speaker 2: play the kids. Play the kids, play the kids, he

455
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Speaker 2: would do that. But right now the expectation of this

456
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Speaker 2: organization is to make the playoffs, and he's going with

457
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Speaker 2: a lineup that he absolutely trusts uh more. And that's

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Speaker 2: just why Danella has wound up and he's unfortunately the

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Speaker 2: casualty of this right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you take this calculated approach knowing ultimately

461
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Speaker 1: it might not get you very far in playoffs and

462
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Speaker 1: you still and you also might be stunting the long

463
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Speaker 1: term growth. That's the tough part about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that that I know is what the fans.

465
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Speaker 2: They don't want this to just be another Moro or

466
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Speaker 2: something like that. And the only thing I'll always say

467
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Speaker 2: is like, I get it, Like I trust me. But

468
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Speaker 2: Danola Europe has a long career ahead of him, and

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Speaker 2: so like, just because he's in the press box for

470
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Speaker 2: three games in a row at age twenty one years old,

471
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that this is going to ruin him.

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Speaker 3: At twenty five to twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: But I do agree that at some point you got

474
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Speaker 2: to play the kid, and you can't just play him

475
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Speaker 2: on the fourth line, and we're seeing, you know, like

476
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Speaker 2: right now, I think dans are concerned, did the Wild

477
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Speaker 2: give up on Maroc who's like enough too early. Look,

478
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Speaker 2: I don't think performed very well here, but he was

479
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Speaker 2: also a young guy that was playing fourth line minutes

480
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Speaker 2: with fourth line players. And now he goes to Boston

481
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Speaker 2: and we've at least seen in the last couple of

482
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Speaker 2: games with him playing with David Pasternak that he looks

483
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Speaker 2: like a very very different player. He's scoring shootout winners

484
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Speaker 2: and game time goals and game winning overtime goals. I mean,

485
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Speaker 2: he's had a a hell of a week and and

486
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Speaker 2: Wild fans look at him and say, well, one, they

487
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: gave up on him way too early, and to day never,

488
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Speaker 2: he never got those type of chances here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: So I think Wild fans are just like, hey, you know,

490
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Speaker 2: don't do the same thing with Danella. Eure up now.

491
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Speaker 2: And there's absolutely a rationale to that. But you know,

492
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Speaker 2: I still think Danila is going to be.

493
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Speaker 3: A great player.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to affect him long term,

495
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Speaker 2: but I do agree that at some point they've got

496
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Speaker 2: to give him the opportunity to play and to play

497
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Speaker 2: in significant roles, so we know if he's able to

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you and we'll we'll chat again next week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks as always, awesome, take care of you.

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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, iHeartRadio right here in Cleveland. It's

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Speaker 2: a block for me, and their studio is right on

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Speaker 2: the street level, like you could watch it from the glass.

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Speaker 1: So I chat Adam very jealous that maybe.

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Speaker 2: You know have I think that you should do the

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Speaker 2: same thing to be like the State Fair year round.

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Speaker 2: Drop your studio right to the lobby dangerous of your

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Speaker 2: building and there's two ways to look at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some stations who do that. It's a

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Speaker 1: great look. There's no question is Aesthetically it's beautiful. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we can get to the first to

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Speaker 1: be able to yes, yep, yeah, I think they change that,

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Speaker 1: and I think for security reasons as well. All right,

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Speaker 1: many that might have been part of it too. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk next week. Be good. Yeah, take Russo Radio helping

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Speaker 1: us O. I'll giving you some good baseball background. Big

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Speaker 1: expos guy from back in the day who knew all right,

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Speaker 1: the deal is in about thirty minutes. We'll be joined

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Speaker 1: by Alec Lewis to talk with the very latest on

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Speaker 1: the vikings, the injuries and everything else at five o'clock

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Speaker 1: today Inbox at five thirty, let's first try to put

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Speaker 1: some bonus bucks in somebody's pocket. The fan and two

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Speaker 1: men and a junk truck want to do just that.

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Speaker 1: the keyword cash. Last night I did duck out a

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Speaker 1: little bit early to try to be on time for

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Speaker 1: the dare we call it a world premiere? I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's been some soft openings already, but it was sort

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Speaker 1: of the official media open of the new musical called

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Speaker 1: Purple Rain. That is presumably the intent certainly is it's

532
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Speaker 1: headed to Hollywood, and I will admit that some of

533
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Speaker 1: the word of mouth on it before I went lowered

534
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Speaker 1: my expectations because there's been some folks who were rooting

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Speaker 1: for the concept big time but were not pleased with

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Speaker 1: what they had seen. So my expectations were They went

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Speaker 1: in kind of low, largely because of that, but I

538
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Speaker 1: was also trying to do my damnedest to have an

539
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Speaker 1: open mind. I would classify my classify myself as a

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Speaker 1: I've never been religious about Prince, but I've always been

541
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Speaker 1: very A lot of his music I've enjoyed, bought, played,

542
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: we talked about over the years as well, and so

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Speaker 1: I was quite curious to see what they could do.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like it made all the sense in the

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Speaker 1: world to give this a try, and I came out

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Speaker 1: of it not that dissimilar. I saw the Bream had

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Speaker 1: a piece that said startimmune dot com. I think there

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Speaker 1: were two of start to mutne critics who both kind

549
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Speaker 1: of weighed in on it, and I tended to agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I think Bream is harder on it

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Speaker 1: than I would be. Here's the way I would divide it.

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Speaker 1: I thought the music and the musical presentation was outstanding.

553
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Speaker 1: I thought it was very good. I thought it was creative.

554
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: The highlight for me was the I think the kid

555
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Speaker 1: who plays the kid is his name, his last name

556
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Speaker 1: is Collins, and the the end of the first act

557
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: ends with his rendition of the Beautiful Ones, and I

558
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Speaker 1: thought it was like outstanding, like really really really effective

559
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: and good. And there were a number of other musical

560
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Speaker 1: moments that I thought were outstanding, the dialogue and and

561
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Speaker 1: and some of the episodes that are supposed to be

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Speaker 1: the bridges, you know, between the musical sessions, I thought

563
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Speaker 1: need work. I came away from it saying, that's extraneous.

564
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Speaker 1: I didn't really get that much out of that. Part

565
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Speaker 1: of it also was and I don't know if this

566
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Speaker 1: is just an audio issue. At first I thought it

567
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Speaker 1: was me because I can't hear. Might have been the

568
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Speaker 1: location because we were in the like the upper balcony,

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Speaker 1: But there were stretches, especially early, where just couldn't follow

570
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Speaker 1: the dialogue. It was muddy, you know, which made it

571
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Speaker 1: kind of difficult as well. But I definitely came away

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Speaker 1: from it saying, keep tweaking it, man, keep working on it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what plays on Broadway, you know that's

574
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Speaker 1: the place, man. And there there the the criticism is

575
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Speaker 1: very tough there. My understanding is they've got some time

576
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Speaker 1: after they get there, before they know they open the

577
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Speaker 1: thing in New York. But there's a lot of it

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Speaker 1: I liked. There are a number of places where I say,

579
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Speaker 1: you know, I tighten it up here. I might have

580
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Speaker 1: gone a little bit different approach there. There's a video

581
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Speaker 1: component of it that I'm not sure I was crazy

582
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Speaker 1: about as well. I'll just leave it at that if

583
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Speaker 1: for folks who who might go. But I thought, you know, again,

584
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Speaker 1: and you can argue that that sort of show is

585
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Speaker 1: really more than anything about the music. I mean, in

586
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Speaker 1: most musicals that's the case, but on good effective musicals,

587
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Speaker 1: there's good dialogue also, right, that hold the whole thing together.

588
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Speaker 1: And I think that's where perhaps a little more work

589
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Speaker 1: needs to be done. And there's already apparently been a

590
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Speaker 1: lot of tweaking, and there may be more coming down

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Speaker 1: the road. The the actor who I think is an

592
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Speaker 1: experienced Broadway stage actor who plays Who's Jungle Love guy?

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Speaker 1: I had no idea jungle love? No, that's not the

594
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Speaker 1: song I'm thinking of. I I I Morris Morse Day.

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Speaker 1: He is outstanding and you could argue, you know, like

596
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Speaker 1: a lot of people say, he kind of steals it

597
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. But then again, you know, like

598
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Speaker 1: in the movie, his character is a lot more upbeat

599
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Speaker 1: than the kid, you know, the character played by by Prince.

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Speaker 1: But I thought he was very good and and and

601
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Speaker 1: and very funny. There's a lot of there's a lot

602
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Speaker 1: of really good funny moments as well. There are a

603
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Speaker 1: couple that I thought didn't quite work out. The actress

604
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Speaker 1: who plays Apollonia outstanding. That's a big element of this

605
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Speaker 1: story as well. And I also thought that dancing was

606
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Speaker 1: very good. Also thought that was a very big part

607
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Speaker 1: of it. So, uh, for those who might have already gone,

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Speaker 1: text me and let me know what you think, and

609
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Speaker 1: maybe some of you because they open it up to

610
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Speaker 1: the public yesterday as well, we also could have sworn.

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Speaker 1: But what I haven't seen, haven't read this anywhere that

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Speaker 1: Spike Lee was spotted last night, Yes, last night really,

613
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Speaker 1: but he wasn't at Nix Wolves. Well that's the course,

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Speaker 1: that's what didn't make sense. You'd think, well he would

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Speaker 1: be at nick Wolves. But maybe I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's got maybe I don't know if he's an investor.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe they said, Spike, we'd love

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Speaker 1: your opinion, give us some feedback on this thing. I

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Speaker 1: have no idea, but I think or to see it

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Speaker 1: to maybe be an investor. Well that's true too. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how that works. Yeah, interesting, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think we hallucinated it. But I have not read. I

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Speaker 1: didn't look to start to mean, I didn't see anything

624
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Speaker 1: about him being there, so I don't know. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: it was wishful thinking. He wasn't up in the balcony

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Speaker 1: with you. You couldn't make this would this was pre game?

627
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Speaker 1: This was actually he was checking out the hoodies. He

628
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Speaker 1: was checking out like the you know, the the paraphernalia

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Speaker 1: that was available. Interesting, and I mean it was he

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Speaker 1: kind of and he walked, you know, he kind of

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Speaker 1: had his head down a little bit in his hands

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Speaker 1: behind his back like he tends to do when he

633
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Speaker 1: was and he was like, so if somebody else saw

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Speaker 1: a spike, let me know. I mean, I'm a little

635
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Speaker 1: offended angry with myself that I didn't say, well, just

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Speaker 1: go up to him. He's got no entourage, right, it

637
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: was just him. He's out in public, and maybe we

638
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Speaker 1: get him on today. Maybe we could have done a

639
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: show from the cage today and had him just walk

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Speaker 1: over whatever he was saying. That would have been even better.

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Speaker 1: Why did you steal Kessler's ticket? Dan so? Kessler? Yeah,

642
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Speaker 1: I heard that got ugly yesterday. You guys, well, do

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Speaker 1: you want the story after this traddle? Because we got

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Speaker 1: let's do the straddle? We got along Vikings report to

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Speaker 1: get to a Let's do the straddle we'll get the

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Speaker 1: Vikings Report going. We've got Alec Lewis speaking of Vikings

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Speaker 1: Report with us at five o two, and we've got

648
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Speaker 1: the inbox opened up at five thirty as well. Time

649
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Speaker 1: now for the Vikings Report on the Fan, presented by

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Speaker 1: Miller Lyte Vikings wide receiver. Adam Thielen joins danbur Rairoam

651
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: next Nick and Saint Paul writes for Spike Lee. It's faith, family,

652
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: finances and free throws good alliteration there. Sure, our old

653
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: friend John Breen kind enough to call the hotline while

654
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: we were chatting about my experience last night at the

655
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Speaker 1: you know, the official I guess opener media opener of

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Speaker 1: the New Princes musical Bream joins us via the Connectico

657
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Speaker 1: Water Systems hotline. You were, if I remember correctly, It

658
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: was kind of a back and forth. I I think

659
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: you were tougher. You were a little I think more

660
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: critical than your compadre. Is that a fair assessment the

661
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: way you guys looked at it?

662
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: Oh?

663
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah. I hold Prince to a high standard, even

664
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Speaker 3: though he wasn't involved with this, but it's still his

665
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: music and his storyline so to speak, and didn't live

666
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: up to the Prince gold Standard, but it didn't expect

667
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 3: that it would.

668
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: Is it salvageable? I mean, you know how this process goes.

669
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Speaker 1: Is it too much to hope for that it can

670
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Speaker 1: get to that spot where John Bree might give it

671
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: the seal of approval? Or is that too big of

672
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Speaker 1: a challenge at this point?

673
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Speaker 3: I think it's a significant challenge. If they want a

674
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: long run on Broadway, you know, the music will carry

675
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: it to a certain extent that the book, the storyline

676
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: has to be improved, the acting has to be improved,

677
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: the show needs to be tightened up. I was sitting

678
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Speaker 3: by your friend Spike Lee. He was he was a

679
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: few rows behind me across the aisle. He was sitting

680
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Speaker 3: on the aisle and as I walked out because I

681
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 3: was leaving during the encore to go right, I looked

682
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: at his face and he he did not have that

683
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 3: New York Knicks of beating the Timberwolves face. He had

684
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Speaker 3: the very stoic poker face.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

686
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Speaker 3: So I don't know if we should how we should

687
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 3: read that. But he is one of the co producers

688
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: of the project, means he's an investor.

689
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Speaker 1: Well that's big then, yeah, So I'm not I wasn't hallucinating.

690
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: We did run into him so and you know, we

691
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: didn't a great went.

692
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: Up and talked to him before the show. He was

693
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Speaker 3: sitting on the aisle, and I went up and introduced

694
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Speaker 3: myself and told him who I was, and I had

695
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: covered Prince his entire career. So Spike stuck his hand out,

696
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: shook my hand, and I said Girl six and gave

697
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: him a thumbs up. Girl six is a movie he

698
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: made in the nineties where Prince did the whole soundtrack.

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Speaker 1: Is Is he a cat guy? Do you guys talk

700
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: about cataball or was it pretty short?

701
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: No?

702
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: I could tell he didn't really want to be bothered.

703
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: You know. He was sitting on the aisle, which kind

704
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 3: of surprised me. But he had his hoodie up over

705
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: his sequined blue Nick's ballcap.

706
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Speaker 1: What did you like? What did you What did you

707
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: find particularly wanting in this production?

708
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: Well, the storyline is wanting. I agree with here. There

709
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: were problems early in the show with the enunciation and

710
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: diction of a couple of the characters and setting up

711
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 3: the kind of whole show, which was frustrating at the beginning.

712
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: The music is you can't argue with the music, you know,

713
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: the great songs from the movie, and they've added a

714
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: lot of other Prince songs as well. The singing is

715
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: quite good, you know, Chris Collins is the kid. He's

716
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 3: a good performer, he's a good musician, he's got those prints.

717
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: Dann moves down. He did the splits that was impressive.

718
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: But like Puncy is a very wooden actor. The guy

719
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: playing Morris Day who played in Hamilton on Broadway Gritic

720
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: did a great cartoonish rosion of Morris him singing in

721
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: the in the dumpster doing gigglosod lonely too. It was hilarious,

722
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: you know, probably the one of the highlights of the program.

723
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Speaker 3: And the woman Rachel Webb, who played Apollonia. I mean,

724
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Speaker 3: she's got you know, skills, acting skills, dancing skills, singing skills.

725
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: She was very, very good too. But the storyline just

726
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: is not clear enough. The dialogue is not strong, and

727
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: most of these people in the secondary roles are not

728
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 3: very good actors. The people playing in his band, they're good,

729
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: solid musicians, but acting and speaking they just didn't summon

730
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: enough emotion.

731
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Speaker 1: I also felt late the musical finish I thought was strong,

732
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: but it felt very abrupt. It felt like, all right,

733
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: we got to wrap it up here, it's getting too long,

734
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: so boom, here we go. I didn't. I didn't think

735
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: that was a There was not a seamless transition to

736
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Speaker 1: get to that place where you say, okay, now it

737
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: makes sense that this thing is wrapping up. It felt

738
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: to me a little bit abrupt in that regard.

739
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: I would agree if they got and pulled down the

740
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 3: neon purple rain sign, you wouldn't have thought it should

741
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: be over.

742
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very very true. So how does one even

743
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: go about so like they have several weeks in New

744
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: York before they perform correct where there is more allegedly

745
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: experimentation or tweaking or things going on. Right, It's not

746
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: like they get to New York and they just and

747
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: and they're on. There's a there's some there's a delay,

748
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: there's some time to work through some things then as

749
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: well correct, right, and it doesn't.

750
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Speaker 3: Have a locked in New York date. So this is

751
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: just the tryout and you know, now the producers will

752
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: get together and go, Okay, what do we need to

753
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: do with this? Do we need to go to another

754
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 3: city and try it out? Do we need to make

755
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: you know, wholesale changes or is it just going to

756
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: be minor surgery, and then they might try it out

757
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: in another city, or they might be able to secure

758
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: New York days based on what they've accomplished so far,

759
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 3: and then they go to New York and then they

760
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: it's similar. They have a period of previews, which you know,

761
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 3: can't be anywhere from two or three weeks to months

762
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: and months. When they did the Spider Woman thing with

763
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 3: the U two musicals with a couple of years ago,

764
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Speaker 3: a few years ago, that one had months and months

765
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Speaker 3: of previews and it's still bombed. So it's hard to

766
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Speaker 3: say exactly what's going to happen with this. The people

767
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Speaker 3: behind the scenes haven't given us much information. You know,

768
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: it's just official opening nights. So now they're waiting for

769
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Speaker 3: a lot of feedback. You know, they had some VIP

770
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Speaker 3: type people were there last Yeah, putting tamber.

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Speaker 1: Getting more v P Yeah. But I yeah, I mean

772
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Speaker 1: I was I was way way you were probably what

773
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Speaker 1: Row three or four?

774
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Speaker 3: I was row l.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They take care of you. They're they're smart. They

776
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: they well didn't do them any good, but I mean,

777
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Speaker 1: you know, at least they they gave you a good spot.

778
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: Well, you want to be close enough so you can

779
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: see it and hear it on the sph you know.

780
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: But like I said, didn't like you said, they had

781
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: some dictionary enunciation problem in the beginning, and it was

782
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: very unfortunate because you're kind of setting things.

783
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: Up correct and.

784
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: They're not talking with proper Minnesota acts.

785
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's that's very true. Uh, we're short on

786
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: time because I got you got to get to some

787
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Viking stuff with Alec Lewis. One of the scenes that

788
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: I thought was just a miss extraneous that some people

789
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: in the in the based on the reaction the crowd

790
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: seemed to like. I didn't. Was the dialogue, the the

791
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: the back and forth with the therapist and and where

792
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: there do you know which one I'm talking about?

793
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 3: Where?

794
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: Uh?

795
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: What was this? It was the two women talking back

796
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: and forth and I and I just found it and

797
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: and one of them is talking about the importance of

798
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: therapy and so forth. I just didn't think it was funny.

799
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: I didn't. It didn't feel like it had anything to

800
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: do with the story as I remember it. And I

801
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: know also you get to you know, it's not going

802
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: to be exactly like the motion picture, but it's it

803
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: was an example of a place where I said, well,

804
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: I would take those five minutes and and you know,

805
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: if you can't get rid of them, entirely use them

806
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: someplace else to make some other point That one didn't.

807
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: I just didn't think it hit I agree.

808
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: I mean, there were there were things that were included

809
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: because they were tied to what happened in the movie,

810
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: and there were things that were added, and I think

811
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 3: oftentimes they were wed too much to the movie. You know,

812
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: it's nice to have the little iconic things like the

813
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: motorcycle and the conversation about you purifying yourself waters Lake Minnetonka,

814
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: but they stuck this too many things. One thing they

815
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: changed that I really liked is they gave this a

816
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: real strong feminist bend. Yes, they had Wendy and Lisa

817
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: joining Apollonia six and talking about how women have to

818
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 3: should be able to play instruments and they don't need

819
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 3: to dress up like hookers. I thought that was very

820
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: important and totally different from the movie. They've definitely eliminated

821
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: the misogyny and the violence and some of the things

822
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: that were very dated in the movie.

823
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for checking in. As always, We appreciate you.

824
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: We'll be in touch. I know there's a lot to

825
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: catch up on as we get into the rest of

826
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: the fall and into the winter, so we'll do so

827
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: very soon. Thanks Johnny.

828
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: Okay, and when will you be taking Kessler to the

829
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: Purple Rain?

830
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I mean, apparently we never got

831
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: to it. The Guardzi said it got really tense in

832
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: here yesterday where Kessler made it suddenly sound like well there,

833
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: it was just some possible for him to go. So

834
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened exactly. I'm not sure. Maybe

835
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: he's not as big a Prince devote as he wants

836
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: the public to believe. You know, he's a point uestion.

837
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: So if you're in TV, you know the essence of

838
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: that is phoniness. You have to whether you are a

839
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: Prince fan or not, you have to be a Prince

840
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: fan or act like one if you're going to do

841
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: TV in Minnesota, Right, That's what That's just the way

842
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: the game works.

843
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: I think Cassler might have shown up if it was

844
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: Maroon Rain, and that might.

845
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 1: Have been true. Thanks man, We'll be in touch.

846
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 3: Be good, John, All right, take care.

847
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: John Breem Star Debune and Startribune dot Com. We're running

848
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: a little bit late. I hope Alec Lewis will be patient.

849
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: Let's get caught up on Ravens week injuries, thettle look

850
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: back on what took place last week, How stunned was

851
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: Alec with the Vikings performance and whether they can build

852
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: on it, because that, of course is what matters most,

853
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Speaker 1: is