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Speaker 1: The following takes place between six pm and seven pm.

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Speaker 2: You want answers.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm entitled. You what answer the truth?

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Speaker 1: You can't handle the truth?

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Speaker 3: Truth, the truth?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. At six eight seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW Welcome into RNL Carrier Sports Talk. I'm presented

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Speaker 1: by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance McAlister. I'm excited just to

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Speaker 1: say my name. Let's get into it. The news surrounding

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Speaker 1: the Bengals over the last thirty hours. Joe Flacco, he

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Speaker 1: arrived on the scene today for practice on the scene.

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Speaker 1: It was my first guest who covers the Bengals. His

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Speaker 1: publisher of Bengals Talk dot com. You should watch and

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Speaker 1: listen to the Enter the Jungle and Locked on Bengals podcast.

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Speaker 1: We welcome in James Rapine and all right, for those

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Speaker 1: getting in their car on the way home tonight, let's

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Speaker 1: provide the update. They are preparing to start him on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Is this is this realistic? Is it doable in your eyes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean more than prepared. I mean apparently Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 3: The second sentence to Joe after they made the deal was, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you're going to start to get ready and so it's cool.

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Speaker 3: I was surprised that devolved that.

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Speaker 2: I was happy he did, because that gives you.

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Speaker 3: An idea of where the Bengals were at with this thing.

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Speaker 3: They know the offense needs to be their strength. It

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Speaker 3: was built around the offense. They're obviously invested a lot

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Speaker 3: in the offense, even without Joe Burrow. When you think

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Speaker 3: of the Bengals, you're thinking of those star receivers and

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Speaker 3: you're thinking about getting them the ball. And so when

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Speaker 3: you look at what they haven't been able to do,

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Speaker 3: which is score touchdowns, how do you fix that? And

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Speaker 3: I think they are buying into the idea of Joe

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Speaker 3: Flacco eighteen years in the NFL, still has the arm talent,

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Speaker 3: still has the intelligence and smarts and also the right

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Speaker 3: mentality slash leadership to handle starting four days, five days,

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Speaker 3: really after being driven down seventy one from Cleveland to

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Speaker 3: play for the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: And during that drive, if you could detail the what

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Speaker 1: sounds like a playbook and game planning discussion as he

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Speaker 1: was being driven to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's really It's so cool, honestly to know

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Speaker 3: the behind the scenes, because you know Joe Flacco, it

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Speaker 3: was a normal Tuesday for him, he was probably getting

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Speaker 3: a little rest, relaxing and kind of getting ready for

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Speaker 3: the week in Cleveland. Finds out he's getting traded. And

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Speaker 3: so the Bengals they have two drivers, one for Joe

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Speaker 3: and his wife and the other one for all of

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Speaker 3: Joe's belongings and all the essentials. And so you have

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Speaker 3: two cars coming down seventy one, and as Zach Taylor

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Speaker 3: calls Joe, they go over the playbooks some and start

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Speaker 3: to dissect things a little bit and get things put

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Speaker 3: in place so they can and so they could hit

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Speaker 3: the ground running today. And I think that's the important

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Speaker 3: thing is you've got to maximize your practice time. You know,

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Speaker 3: they have so many practices, and so for them to

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Speaker 3: be able to do that and use that time, I

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Speaker 3: do think that that could be valuable. Will it end

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Speaker 3: up being successful, We'll see, But I do think that

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Speaker 3: every minuteccounts.

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Speaker 1: You were out in front of the idea of hey,

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Speaker 1: kick the tires, look around, look at look at upgrades

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. You were out in front of this weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction the moment the news hit.

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Speaker 3: I'm I was happy they did something, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: really wrap my head around the Joe Flacco move itself

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Speaker 3: because of the division part of it, and because of

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown and the history with the Browns, like they've

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Speaker 3: division rival, and it was just naturally you look at

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Speaker 3: it fifty thousand foot view and it it makes sense.

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Speaker 2: From what Joe things, what they need.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, my first reaction was happy that they did something.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was an obvious thing that they needed

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Speaker 3: to address, and you're right, a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 3: would have been the time. But when I hear who

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Speaker 3: I do think Joe Flacco can give you a lot

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Speaker 3: to be a better leader than say Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: What can the offense look like, now would Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 1: what can he help them do?

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Speaker 3: If Zac made this very clear, I was almost surprised

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Speaker 3: at how clear it was he could pass the football,

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Speaker 3: which it sounds ridiculous. Oh the quarterback passed the football

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Speaker 3: shouldn't matter who's on the other side. You should be

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Speaker 3: make some big plays. And quite frankly, I know people

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Speaker 3: are going to bring up the offensive line, but the

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Speaker 3: on the field and the offensive line gave them a shot.

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Speaker 3: I thought, I'm not saying they're perfect. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: I do think they're going to be able to push

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Speaker 3: the past. Obviously, you have to give Flacker some time

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Speaker 3: This is on another level. There aren't many guys that

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Speaker 3: can spin it like Joe Flacco. So from that element,

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Speaker 3: I think you could see the downfield game worked in

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Speaker 3: their favor with the Jamar Chase and Ti Higgins and

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Speaker 3: then He's was really good. Flacco was at targeting the

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Speaker 1: James, what happened to Jake Browning?

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Thought about this last night. I was like, you know,

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Speaker 3: in training camp, the Bengals thought they had arguably the

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Speaker 3: Browning arguably the best backup in the league in their minds,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, and when you consider the contract of what

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Speaker 3: to throw picks, but he's also going to produce big plays.

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Speaker 3: And the Bengals could have lived with the interceptions is

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Speaker 3: if it was also coming with explosive plays. In the

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Speaker 3: where when.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't seeing it better, or maybe maybe it's this lance.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he just caught lightning in a bottle a couple

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Speaker 2: And in that in who he is is who he.

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Speaker 3: Is, which is an undrafted quarterback that was on practice

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I do feel feel for him

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Speaker 3: because I think the Bengals viewed him as one of

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Speaker 3: up Joe Flacco. Five days after Flacco gets traded.

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Speaker 1: For James, I said Sunday after the loss, this this

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Speaker 1: situation feels worse than the reality from the standpoint of

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Speaker 1: they're still in the AFC North Race. There's still right now.

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Speaker 1: They're the eighth seed the pecking order of the AFC.

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Speaker 1: It's not like they're out of this.

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Speaker 3: Thing, I know, and I think that was the importance

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Speaker 3: we know, we know we have to be better. We're

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Speaker 3: and whether or not it works, we'll see. But things

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Speaker 3: was starting to, you know, the finger pointing could have

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Speaker 3: and I'm not saying that's all bage's fault, because it's not.

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Speaker 3: But when you lose and you're getting your butt kicked

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Speaker 3: and you're being outscored one thirteen to thirty seven, and

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Speaker 3: all four of those touchdowns, by the way, were garbage

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Speaker 3: are in it and in they view it that way

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Speaker 3: and they should it that way because the team at

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Speaker 3: the head of them in the division, the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: They play them twice starting next week. They play them

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Speaker 2: twice in a month. You know, So even if you lose.

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Speaker 3: A lambo, if you had no business twice against the

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Speaker 1: Nex you mentioned running backs and tight ends and the

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Speaker 1: impact Joe Flacco could have. I look at a guy

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Speaker 1: in terms of his targets, in terms of his catch

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Speaker 3: Is T Higgins? Yeah, No, I agree with you, And

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Speaker 3: I think that is the one that I point to.

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Speaker 2: Why would you make a move? Why would you do it? Well?

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Speaker 3: T Higgins right now?

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Speaker 2: And I don't believe he's this to be clear, He's

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Speaker 2: just a guy. Yeah, And.

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Speaker 3: There's no planet, there's no quarterback. There's no scenario where

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Speaker 3: T Higgins in this offense without Joe Burrow can be

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Speaker 3: just a guy. Because they're built around he, Jamar Chase Brown,

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Speaker 3: their skill talent, and they need a quarterback that is

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Speaker 3: especially without Joe. And so yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I think T Higgins unlocking him as such a huge

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Speaker 3: got to start. Honestly, it's got to start. Winn, lose,

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Speaker 1: Last question for you always appreciate your time. Let me

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Speaker 1: flip to the other side of the ball. Do you

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Speaker 1: see encouraging signs about this defense?

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Speaker 3: The defense is so tough to judge because of how

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Speaker 3: weird these games have been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've.

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Speaker 3: Been putting in really tough spots. I think I see

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Speaker 3: some encouraging signs for sure.

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Speaker 2: Is it real or not?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea, And that's another element to this.

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Speaker 3: And you just you've got to be able to play

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Speaker 3: a normal game where you're not looking up in wondering

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Speaker 2: On defense, they're gonna be fine.

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Speaker 3: I think that's true. I think they would have been

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Speaker 3: they would have won in Denver. Maybe it's last week

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Speaker 3: it's the defense, and it's not. The offense has been

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Speaker 3: change if there's any chance of turning this season around.

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Speaker 1: I know things have been turned upside down over the

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Speaker 2: Absolutely thanks for having me Las.

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Speaker 1: Thanks James.

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