1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Close it in a seven o'clock on this Thursday night. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: It's the roundtable show log Next in Richwood, presented by 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Postman Law here each and every Thursday, by the way, 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: and we have not we have not mentioned this. Remind 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: me Rock, this will be an off air match. Remind 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: me to mention our poster giveaway in house when we 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: get to the break, because Sean Bolker has a Bengals 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: print he's giving away each week here on the show. 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: All Right, I think we've got I think we've tracked 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: him down. I think we have trags. Do we have trags? 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: Trags? 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Are you there? 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Wait? 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: I heard a click? 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: I think it is he covers the Bengals from c 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: l NS since he with a y dot com host 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: of the Jungle World podcast on YouTube. 18 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: Would this be Mike Petralia, It. 19 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 4: Would be indeed, gentlemen, a little bit late, but happy 20 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: to join you. 21 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: It is great to hear from you. It's been a 22 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: busy day. We appreciate you making time. Jamar Chase spoke 23 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: today about speaking up. 24 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: What did he say? 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: He wants guys to play with anger and emotion and 26 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 4: he thinks that's a good sign. Of course, he doesn't 27 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 4: want his team mates losing control on the field and 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 4: drawing fifteen yard penalties. But in terms of on the sideline, 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: I think he wants more vocal leadership. He wants people 30 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: yelling at each other when things are sloppy, like eleven penalties. 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: When you have eleven penalties and that's two more than 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: first down that you have for a game, that's problem. 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: And Monday Night was another. 34 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 4: Example of the Bengals being sloppy and undisciplined as a team. 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: Across the board in all three areas. 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: And that's where Zach Taylor knows he has to step 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: up and accept responsibility that this team is not prepared 38 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: mentally for a lot of these games. And that's what 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 4: I think a lot of fans can see when they 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: watch this Bengals team. 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: Yes, they don't have Joe Burrow. 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: We all understand that, we all understand that they're not 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: the same team. 44 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: But with that in mind, all. 45 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 4: The more reason this team should bear down on the 46 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 4: fundamentals and execute as. 47 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: Close to flawlessly as possible. 48 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: And it doesn't look like there's an emphasis or a 49 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: priority physically or mentally on doing so. 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 5: Tracked, you're around this team a lot, you know the 51 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 5: personality you know the players. 52 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: Is there a player too that you can think of 53 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: that maybe you. 54 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: Know has the position and the authority to be a 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 5: little more vocal, but isn't yet like a Ted Carris. 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 57 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to think of something. 58 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: That's exactly where I was going to go. That's exactly 59 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: where I was going to go. Ted Carris and Orlando 60 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: Brown Junior. They are captains, they are team captains, but 61 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 4: I think they probably have to be a little more 62 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 4: vocal on the sideline. Go up and read the Riot 63 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: Act to these linemen, including themselves, and they have to 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: say that what we're doing is not acceptable, even when 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: they're not committing the penalties. 66 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: When you're getting. 67 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: Blown off the ball constantly, when you can't run the 68 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: ball two and a half yards three yards of carry, 69 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: when you're hoole held to two and a half yards 70 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 4: of pop, that's unacceptable, especially when you don't have Joe Burrow. 71 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: So you know the Bengals is going to have to 72 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: do some soul searching. It's cliche, but it's true. 73 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: And then in terms of getting the defense lined up properly, 74 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: that's again inexcusable. 75 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: I mean that's Pop Warner stuff. 76 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: And if you don't know who's supposed to be on 77 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: the field or where you're supposed to be when you 78 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: get on the field, that's a damning sign that you're 79 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: not well prepared for the game. 80 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: And trags. 81 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: If anybody thought there was doubt, Zach clearly erased it 82 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: this week. 83 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: He is firmly in the corner of Jake Browning. 84 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 4: Well, and I think part of that is they don't 85 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: really have another option at this point. I know names 86 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: like Russell Wilson and Jameis Winsday get thrown out there. 87 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: I think this team needs to show that they're worthy 88 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: of the front. 89 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: Office going out and making a move. 90 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: Now that being said, if the front office went out 91 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: and made a proactive mood move, because the division is 92 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: winnable with Baltimore banged up, the Browns to the Browns, 93 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 4: nobody takes them seriously, and the Steelers have a reputation 94 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: of playing for ten or eleven weeks great and then 95 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: folding down the stretch under Mike Tomlin, they get worn down. 96 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: The division is there to be taken if you just 97 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: play at a good to average level, and the Bengals 98 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: are nowhere close to that maybe a guy like Jamis 99 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: Winston comes in and could make a difference in two 100 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: to three games, but more likely than not, until you 101 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 4: clean yourself, you clean your act up on both sides of. 102 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: The ball, it probably wouldn't make a difference. 103 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Treggs, you wrote an absolutely phenomenal story earlier this week, 104 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: headline read It's time for the Bengals to question every 105 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: facet of their football operation because it's broken. There was 106 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: one line I want to highlight and ask you about 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: in the story that Rock and I just talked about. 108 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: This line you wrote their history is to act like 109 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: the future is more important than the present. And you 110 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: compare a contrast to that to the Eagles at Howie 111 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Roseman and it's night and day, isn't it? 112 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: Oh? 113 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: It is? 114 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: I mean the priority in those cities is to win 115 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: Super Bowls. The priority in Cincinnati is sign your star players, 116 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: put fans in the seats, and hope to win with 117 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: your best players playing at a tip top level. Well, 118 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: the problem with that is if you get one or 119 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 4: two of your star players go down with injury and 120 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: you haven't signed depth, you haven't scouted properly, you haven't 121 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 4: done the work you needed to do in free agency, 122 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: which clearly they did not at the Interior guard position offensively. 123 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: Then that's going to leave you short and you're going 124 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: to get exposed. And that's what's happened with these Bengals, 125 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: and it's happened throughout history. I mean, I don't want to, 126 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: you know, rail on the last four decades, but everybody 127 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: listening to this knows what the record is. The record 128 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: is the record. Your history is your history, and that's. 129 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: All I was pointing out. 130 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: Tim Taylor Britt, What do you make of his current status? 131 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: Actually, I should say very shaky. I would say he 132 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: is on the brink of being benched for longer periods 133 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: than just one or two snaps. I think there's a 134 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: possibility if he doesn't pick up his quality of play, 135 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 4: and now Golden referenced that this week and meeting with 136 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: us on Wednesday. If he doesn't pick it up, I 137 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: think the Bengals are going to just have to sit 138 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: him and go with some younger players, whether it's Marco Wilson, 139 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: he got some time on Monday night. 140 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: Didn't really look great. 141 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: Sick Newton, Josh Big Newton is going to get more 142 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: playing time and certainly DJ, Turner and Hill, assuming they 143 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 4: don't get hurt, are going to play more, and Cam 144 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: Taylor is going to watch on the sidelines. 145 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: Trag's last question, I want to spend at the Reds 146 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: because you're a multitasker, you cover the Reds as well. 147 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: I'd be interested in after a night to sleep on it. 148 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: Just give me a takeaway, either the playoff series or 149 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: the season for the twenty twenty five Cincinnati Reds. 150 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: Fifteen in Game five, bases loaded, nobody out, don't score. 151 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: Ellie Daily Cruz strikes out, singing, you don't put the 152 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: bat on the ball. It's happened countless times. That was 153 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: the end of the series in MAAS estimation. 154 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: That has to be addressed in the offseason. I know 155 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: they're almost. 156 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: Certainly not going to trade Ellie Daily Cruz. I understand that, 157 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: but they have to beef up the bats in the lineup. 158 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: They have to find a way to do that by 159 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: hook or by crook. 160 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Trags, if those listening want to read, watch, follow and 161 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: know all that you have going on, how would they 162 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: go about doing that? 163 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: All right? 164 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: On the X, Trags t r A g F online 165 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: cl on stinc with y dot com and the Jungle 166 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: War Podcast YouTube page not only for Richard Skinner and 167 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: my postgame analysis after every game, but also locker room 168 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: reaction and interviews. It's YouTube dot com slash Jungle War. 169 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: Pod and a program preview and closing. This is very big. 170 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: I'm very excited. Next week Rock is on assignment. 171 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: I am told by high level sources on condition of anonymity, 172 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: but I'm breaking that that you are going to join 173 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: me in person next week six to seven o'clock at 174 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: this very establishment. Can you confirm I can confirm? Well, 175 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: you paused there for a second. I was getting very nervous. 176 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: Which would be. 177 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: Had the result on parent, had the results in LA 178 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 4: been different? 179 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: Maybe a different answer, but yes, I can. 180 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: Improm totally understand. All Right, thank you sir, good catching up. 181 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: Alright, alright, guys, take care