1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: That's why I try to tell them there's nothing but 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: air an opportunity between us and you know, social media stocks. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back to it. 4 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Can't wait sports bitch, but Albright, Dave Logan, Shelby Harris, 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Gras Smith back there producing today and of course the 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: march Mans Tournament is kicked off. If you see you 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: in North Carolina playing right now, ka' wait. 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: Tournament updates presented by Xfinity. 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: And Dave Smith Motors, Low price is hard to beat 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: on RAM, JP, GMC and Chevrolet. Round one of the 11 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Men's tournament underway, number twelve high Point upset Wisconsin eighty three, 12 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: eighty two and Shelby Harris personally. Or we don't have 13 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: to keep talking about it's here. I have to read it. 14 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: It's something like ron bergant. If it's on the script here, 15 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: I gotta read it. Uh, Nebraska, you got its first 16 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: tourney win ever over number thirteen Troy a seventy six 17 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: forty seven blowout. See you women number ten seed? You 18 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: play a number seven Illinois Saturday at seven thirty. You 19 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: sees you women number twelve, So you play number five 20 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: Michigan State Friday at five thirty. See if you men 21 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: lost to Saint Joe's and the Nike and you men 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: are in the college basketball Crown coming up here in 23 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. 24 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to, you know, even add on 25 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 4: to more of the act any of Wisconsin losing. But 26 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 4: today was high points. First time beating up Power for 27 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 4: School ever. 28 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't actually know that. 29 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: I didn't actually know that. 30 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: That's why I like what David was looking. I was 31 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 4: looking at the TV. I'm like, there's no way that 32 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 4: status real. This is the first time they beat up 33 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 4: Power Force School ever, and it has to be there 34 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 4: was going some badgers Wisconsin finish in the Big Ten? 35 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: What spot theyred? They were like third or fourth? They 36 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 4: lost in semi finals and Michigan and the Michigan went 37 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 4: on to win the whole win the Big Ten, and 38 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 4: so I think they were like thirty fourth. But I'm 39 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: telling me they had some good ones. They beat Michigan 40 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: this year, they'd beat Illinois and Michigan didn't win the 41 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: Big Ten? Did they, Michigan or Michigan State State? 42 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: Michigan didn't win the Big Ten tourney? Did they? 43 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: I think they were not to turn I'm talking about just. 44 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 5: Oh right, yeah, Okay, okay, yeah, do won the attorney. 45 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, the the closing seconds of the game, three point 46 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: specialists for High Point who had not scored a two 47 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: point or all year? 48 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: Is that the kid from Florida, the guy had. 49 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: He only attempted for four two point shots all season. 50 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: There's just a three point specials they break in. 51 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: And yeah giants, I mean, Wisconsin had a chance. Mcboy 52 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: missed that contestant driving layup, you know, and that was 53 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: that was really just just what it was at the 54 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: end of the game and the high Points. 55 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: Rob Martin had a big game. It's just, you know, fascinating. 56 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: A lot sucks that that your guys had to go 57 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: down there, man, but that was a fascinating game to 58 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: watch from. 59 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: From my. 60 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Hopefully that's I mean, because we talked about it a 61 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: little bit yesterday. We talked about how a lot of 62 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: these under it's not the same it's not the same 63 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: thing because with the nil era, you know, these big schools, 64 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: they they wind up snapping up. You know a lot 65 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: of these players that are won and done with these 66 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: small schools, they snap them up, and you just don't 67 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: see as much as many of these upsets and as 68 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: many of these upsets going as far as they used. 69 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: To, well, not not at all. 70 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 4: You're never You're never going to see Aboutler and making 71 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 4: it to the national change. Yes, you know what I 72 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: mean that that doesn't work. And that's why when Butler 73 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: lost that game, the heartbreaking game in North Carolina that 74 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: year that was was. 75 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: It North Carolina? 76 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: Ye? Butler North Carolina. It was like an idea of like, 77 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 4: I don't think they'll ever be back in this position again. 78 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: Be interesting. 79 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: High point, of course takes on Arkansas, they beat up on. 80 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the Denver Bronco. 81 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: Well, look, I wanted this to be I didn't want 82 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: to be a low point for you. 83 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: It's as low as possible. 84 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: We did a lot of questions about the Denver Broncos, 85 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: somebody asking if Shelby. 86 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: Is a believer? Are you a believer in Bonix? 87 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I believe, and I also am very happy with 88 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: all the we know we were mad about the lack 89 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 4: of moves, but them going and adding Jed and Watto, 90 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: but then also bringing back JK. 91 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Dobbins. 92 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: It shows that the team also are believers too, because 93 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: you don't make those moves. If you don't that your 94 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: quarterback can really get better with them, and so I 95 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: like it all. And I think you're just going to 96 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: see with Jayleen moatdel I think Marvin n is going 97 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: to take a big jump. You have mister reliable and 98 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: Courtland Sutton over there. You're gonna see Troy Franklin really 99 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: start to I think we haven't seen him. 100 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: Come on, we'll figure we'll. 101 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: See how you know, he has to compete and make 102 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 4: his way with Jayalen Wattle coming in and all that 103 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 4: room is now kind of crowded. 104 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Well that was and that was the immediate question I 105 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: think everybody had is who who takes the biggest bite 106 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: in terms of the loss of reps? 107 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: And they got Pat Bryan probably he got Pat Bryan. 108 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 4: Still who you know that that's that's the issue. But hey, 109 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: the you know, when you have a plethora. 110 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: Of talent, excellent use of plthrower, you know what I mean? 111 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: If a plethoro of talent is way better than have 112 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: a negative amount of talent, I'll tell you then. 113 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: I say, I will say there's no shortage of weapons 114 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: as far as it goes, at least all paper. If 115 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: everybody can stay healthy. The Broncos, by the way, at 116 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: the sportsbooks. They went up with that Wattle move. They 117 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: were plus twenty two hundred to win the championship before 118 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: a waddle, and they went to plus eighteen hundred. So 119 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: they moved up a little bit. That was like almost 120 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: like a quarterback upgrade kind of move. 121 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 5: In the line, I saw an interesting post in terms 122 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 5: of the AFC West skill position players taking taking the 123 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 5: quarterbacks out of the equation. 124 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: Look at the. 125 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 5: Chargers skill position. So running backs, tight end, wide receivers. 126 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 5: Do the same for the Chiefs, do the same for 127 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 5: the Raiders, do the same for the Broncos. 128 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm probably a little higher on the Chargers young talent 129 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: than than most, and I would still say you got 130 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: to look at the Broncos and put them at the 131 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: top of the list. 132 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 5: I think I think the Broncos would would be first. 133 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 5: Other than lad McConkie. 134 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: Well, they got they got running Gaston Jr. 135 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: At the tight end. They got a Marion Hampton at 136 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: the run. I'm not sure about Hampton yet. 137 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta assume that Hampton's going to make 138 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: a I've jumped this year. 139 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: Mike, Mike right on the show, Mike McDaniel, Adam Gason 140 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: that brain trust. I'm not I think the big question 141 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: mark if you're the Chargers is the receiving corps outside 142 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: of lad I mean, you got Trey Harris, who I like, 143 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: he's young, second year at Old Miss. But then you 144 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: got what Quinton Johnston, who you know, is he going 145 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: to catch the ball? That's been the big question on him. 146 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: And then a bunch of other guys that don't really 147 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: jump out at you. They they've tried to be in 148 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: on the Alec Pierce thing, but Pierce went back to 149 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: went back to Indy. 150 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: They couldn't really make a move there. And then you 151 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: know the Raiders. 152 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: I mean I don't know. 153 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean Rock Bowers, yeah, I mean he is what 154 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: he is and he headlines at Chanty Chance. He become 155 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: the guy this year with with Clint running the show. 156 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: But then you know their receiving course, Jack Besh, Trey Trucker, 157 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: and Jalen Naylor. 158 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 3: I don't know that that's sure. 159 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: Is the speed guy the guy that you I'm loving 160 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: them's type. You know, he's a returner for them too, 161 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 4: and he's had success with that and he's a guy 162 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 4: that wants to take the top off the defense. 163 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: And so is a guy who he can. He can. 164 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: He has not been a consistent threat yet, but he's 165 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 4: a guy who you assume with Koobe back there, they're 166 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: going to do more things to get him open. But 167 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: if you're thinking about the overall talent of the AFC West, 168 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 4: I don't think there's really any question that is to 169 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: denver Broncos of the scale positions, which is crazy to 170 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: even say, considering where the Broncos were three years ago. 171 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: I think it's it's interesting when you juxtaposed that with 172 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: the fact if you were to rank the defenses, you 173 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: would rank the defense of the Broncos at the top 174 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: of that list too. 175 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: Yes, not like no question, And that's what That's. 176 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 5: Why I snicker a little bit when I see people 177 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 5: forecasting that the Broncos will finish third to the AFC West. 178 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: But also I can understand it though. 179 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: Because because of the death, they have a lot of 180 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 4: good talent of up top, you know, I mean the 181 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: first on the depth chart, a lot of good talent 182 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: the minute, which we are guaranteed against some injuries I'm 183 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: not saying is going to happen, but if anyone gets hurt, 184 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: now you're talking about a lack of depth. 185 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that is going to be interesting to 186 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: see the AFC as a whole, sort of interesting because 187 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: it's past year. You had quite a few teams that 188 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: might have been considered blue bloods that maybe had injuries, 189 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: specifically the quarterback position. 190 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: Who do you think. 191 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: Bounces back harder this year, bounces back better than they 192 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: were last year? Kansas City, the Cincinnati Bengals, Joe Burrow, 193 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens with with the you know, with their. 194 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: Their teams, not Cincinnati, no, no, no, they figure out 195 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 5: how to invest in their old lives. 196 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: Well they play defense anyway, because there's no d happening there. 197 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: Well yeah, but also there's no blocking going on in 198 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 4: that team either, because Joe Burrow gets smacked. And and 199 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: that's the thing you going out there. You spend all 200 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: his money on Joe Burrow, and you spend all his 201 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 4: money on your receiver as Jamar Chase t T Higgins, 202 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: and you don't protect the quarterback. You're spending all his 203 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: money on it. Just it has proven time and time again. 204 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: Yet you may get some wins, you may get some stats, 205 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: but when it comes down to the best, teams are 206 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 4: loaded on the d line. And that's always like we 207 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 4: saw him in Super Bowl. 208 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: That one year. 209 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 4: The Bengals had no chance upfront, and this is how 210 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: they keep approaching every year and they're trying to draft 211 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: their way out of it. 212 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: I respect. 213 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: It is this that lately college o' lineman have been 214 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: really they've been really struggling changing over to the pro game. 215 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: I also think Kansas City, maybe not to the extent 216 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 5: of Cincinnati, but I think Kansas City has similar issues 217 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 5: up front, and now with a quarterback coming off an 218 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 5: ACL surgery, they've got to figure out ways to protect him. 219 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 5: I think that's one of the reasons you see Kenneth 220 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 5: Walker there, because they'll try to run the ball a 221 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 5: bit more take some pressure off the offensive line. 222 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's interesting. 223 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: Is that shocking to you because on a personal level 224 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: and Andy Reid team being bad at blocking, like his 225 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: eye opening to me. 226 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: You know, you go back and look at what he did. 227 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: He made it a point in Philadelphia to start with 228 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: the offensive line, and they always kept making sure that 229 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: offensive line was was what it was, and then you 230 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: get you know, they would skimp on receivers at times, 231 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: which is why you had got I remember if like 232 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: Kevin Curtis and James thrash at receiver back then, I 233 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: was a. 234 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: Racist one, Riley, Riley, uh myself and I apologize y. 235 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: For some reason, it kept Moss kept coming in my head. 236 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: But I knew that that was not true. But but 237 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: like once again, though he wasn't like a great receiver 238 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: at the time, he was you know, serviceable. But you know, Andy, 239 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: Andy Reid has been long known to get the most 240 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: out of any receiver he brings in there. But you know, 241 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: you can lead a dog the water, you can't make 242 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 4: him drink. You can bring people on his team, you 243 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: can't make him block because it's just we have a 244 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 4: blocking problem in the NFL. And d Liman certain d 245 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: lineman and the past rushing and I is that the 246 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: I think what seeing the best of the best right now? 247 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: Even guy. 248 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: You know. The one thing is, you know guys will 249 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 4: go out there and be like they can't play the run, 250 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: and they would be like, heah, I can't play the run, 251 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: but I could rush my ass. And so you're going 252 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: to have a job year after year of the year 253 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: until the NFL starts punishing those type of teams, like 254 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 4: the teams in NFL really start punishing those type of teams. 255 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: By running the ball at them, you're going to see 256 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: guys really thrive from the D line with rushing the passer. 257 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 4: And so that's the difference. The old linemen aren't getting better, 258 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: but the D linemen are getting more, are getting way 259 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: better at this one skill of rushing the passer. 260 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: You're saying the offensive line need to have a pass 261 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: rushing summit than anti pass rushing summit. 262 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: That won't help. It's the coaches. The coaches are really bad. Now, well, 263 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: I'm just going to put that out there, like it's 264 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 4: just it's the truth. Like we've seen some of these 265 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: top tier coaches leave the Mike bunchicks, you know, which 266 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 4: a random unch when the at the Nuggets the Rockets game. 267 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 4: But like literally, like you've seen these type of guys leave, 268 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 4: and then the college coaching is getting worse. So these 269 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: guys come back into the league less prepared, less ready, 270 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: And it's just a. 271 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: But if you're okay, So with that in mind, if 272 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: you're an NFL team, wouldn't you go take a brink 273 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: struck and back it up to the suddenly is he 274 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: a free agent? 275 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: Isn't he? 276 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Jeff Stoutland, who's been coaching the offensive line there in Philadelphia. 277 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: For what a decade you would think you would do, 278 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: you would think. 279 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 4: And but at that time, though, I think a lot 280 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: of teams had their rosters, mean, they had their coaching 281 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: staffs thretty much set. You know, he did step down. 282 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: A little late. I get, yeah, maybe you know what I. 283 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 4: Mean, And and that really plays into you is a 284 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: better guy available, like. 285 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: He might have wanted to break he thought he was 286 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: getting a bigger piece of the offense. Yeah, he thought 287 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: he was getting bigger piece of the offense. And they 288 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: took away his you know, his you know, core extra 289 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: assistant coordinator. This is a run game coordinator title or 290 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: whatever it was. And then it all went south from there. 291 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: But Jeff s Allen's one of the best offensive line 292 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: coaches out there, and I'm like, if you're not employing 293 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: him to do that, why wouldn't somebody else come out 294 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: there and back. 295 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: Of brings truck up. 296 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 5: I think the reality there they had to when they 297 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 5: hired the new offensive coordinator. That was part of his 298 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 5: his agreement, right, So the title wasn't going to go 299 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 5: to your former run game coordinator who wanted the title. 300 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: And things like that. 301 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 5: I mean that there are things like that that happened 302 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 5: quite a bit in the NFL. So I don't know 303 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 5: in terms of why somebody unless their staffs are full, 304 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 5: but I wouldn't think he'd be out of work long. 305 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and that's they keep saying they're going 306 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: to bring him back. I don't know what capacity, you know, 307 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: you bring him back, and that he would kind of said, yeah, 308 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: but they brought They brought in Sean Mannion is their 309 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator now, and then they brought Josh Grizzard over, 310 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: who was the quarterback. 311 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: Is he thorough see now? 312 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: And then their their their passing game coordinator was Josh Grizzard, who. 313 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: Was the Bucks o C last year that got fired. 314 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: So that's that's the brain trust as it were, with 315 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: with what they're doing there. 316 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: But I don't know, it was just one of those 317 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: ones that was eye opening to me. 318 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know, I never, you know, 319 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: I throw a block ever, So I don't know, like 320 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: when it comes down to watching that kind of stuff, 321 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: I sort of know what I'm looking at a little bit, 322 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: but I don't, you know, if you're saying the guys 323 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: are not getting the coaching is that the same across 324 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: the board? I mean, because we're seeing quarterbacks that are 325 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: getting different coaching at the college game than they ever got, 326 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: and they're they're changing the way that they run offenses 327 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL partly because that guys don't do you know, 328 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: full field reads don't exist anymore. 329 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think the issue I've the issue is 330 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: that the IT of the game is really just dropping. 331 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: Like if you really think about about coaching and play, like, 332 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: you see teams as unprepared as possible down that you've 333 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: never really seen. 334 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: Like the IQ of the game is this dropping? 335 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean there is a I think a commitment 336 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: to simplifying things is trying. 337 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: To get the defenses are figuring it out, and we're 338 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 4: going to get to a point where then a vote 339 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 4: come out and make a rule that makes it up 340 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: the team just scoring going to score more, you know 341 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: what I mean? Because this is what kind of happens 342 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 4: every five seven years. I mean it's like, all right, 343 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: these defenses starts shutting his offenses down. Okay, how can 344 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: we give them an advantage again? And it goes crazy 345 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: for three years, it starts getting kind of you know, 346 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 4: brought in and kind of figured out and then they 347 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 4: do it again. Make another rule to kind of fix 348 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 4: it and don't don't hit the receivers across the middle 349 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: or you know. This is little things like that that 350 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: make a difference on do you get the ball out 351 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: or is it a first down? 352 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: On the text line, Dave Shelby has a Chiefs really 353 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: gotten better. They added Keth Walker, who can't pass, protect 354 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: or catch. Andy Reid never commits to the run. All 355 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: starting corners are gone, They lost a starting safety, linebacker, 356 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: and a couple of defensive linemen. 357 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: Would you say the Chiefs have gotten monstrably worse? 358 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 5: As long as fifteen is going to be back, and 359 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 5: I assume that he will be back, he makes up 360 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 5: for a lot of issues. But I think I think 361 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 5: the texture brings up a good point. I mean, Kenneth 362 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 5: Walker is really, I think, an excellent running back, but 363 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 5: he's not a third down back. I think his let's 364 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 5: pick up is probably a little bit better than people 365 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 5: discredit him for, but he's not a pass receiver. 366 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: Out of the backfield. 367 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: Well, they brought in Amaro Demarcado from Arizona, who is 368 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: kind of that that is what he does. 369 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: Hony of those who don't remember. 370 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: Demarcado is the guy that Jonathan Gannon got in the altercation. 371 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: With on the sideline. 372 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they did bring him in. 373 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: And they got Richard Smith who was a former receiver 374 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: at SMU that plays running back as well, So you 375 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: got a pass catcher there. 376 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: They do have those things. 377 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it looks like Kensady's defense at 378 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: least got worse. I mean you look at that. They 379 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: lost how many what three corners they lost? 380 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: Well, they they carried away, They didn't they sent them, 381 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: They traded them away. He was in Tennessee though, he 382 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 4: was in Tennessee. So they got they they said McDuffie 383 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: and they said there and the track Watson and they 384 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: both went to the Rams. So I think obviously the defense, 385 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 4: they must feel like they have young players or they're 386 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 4: going to hit it in the drafts or they can 387 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: find someone cheap. I just think that once again, like 388 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 4: they've said, as long as you have Patrick Mahomes. But 389 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: I'm very interested to see what Andy Reid does for 390 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: justin fields. That right there blew my mind when I 391 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: saw that trade, because I was like, if anyone can 392 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: get it out of him or makes him look like 393 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: a unicorn, make him look as special as possibles Andy Reid. 394 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: And also for me, what that says to being is, 395 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: don't expect to see Patrick mahomes An again of that season. 396 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: The original projection for him to come back was the 397 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: beginning of October. 398 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 2: And that's just come back, I mean. 399 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: Not be fully. You know, you know how it is 400 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: when you come back from that injury. It's gonna be 401 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: a little while. I don't know. I mean, you know, 402 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: he's out there doing all the right things as far 403 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: as rehab, and we're way out from all that. But 404 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: the original projected date was the beating October. Something interesting 405 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: to see. You know what injury's gonna do with Justin 406 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: Fields though? Kick field goals days, Like, I've heard this 407 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: one like ten times, So show me hear it now 408 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: I can see look at it. 409 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: Look at the smirk. Look at the smirk. 410 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 3: Playing across his face. He knows exactly what. 411 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: He's heard that joke a few times from me. As 412 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: far as I just remember when this fan base was 413 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: mad at George Peyton, I mean for not drafting Justice 414 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: for drafted passer Tan instead of Justin Field. 415 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: Oh I remember, because everybody was like, oh, like what 416 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: are we doing? Yeah? 417 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Meanwhile, you got the best best corner in the game. 418 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 3: And Justin Field is going on what is this team. 419 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: For first sometime? 420 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: And George just keeps doing things that shows who that 421 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 4: he's head and shoulders above the game, like look at 422 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 4: the talent he got patted now like compared to now 423 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: where corners are are jumping at like it's his moves 424 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 4: like that, being not afraid to pay people when it's 425 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 4: time to pay them, because when you don't, usually the 426 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 4: price goes up. 427 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 2: Well, the price always goes up. 428 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: You pay somebody and then that resets the market for 429 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: the next guy. So you might as well get in 430 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: as queiches you can. We get it a break when 431 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: we come back. 432 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 3: Textalla is asking who are you guys' opinions? 433 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 2: Are the top five teams in the AFC are which? 434 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: Then we come back. 435 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Let's see we got here several questions for you guys. 436 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: See First, for Shelby's amazing he knows and studies the game, Who, 437 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: in his opinion, are the top five teams in the AFC? 438 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: All right, in the AFC, Right, I assume for this 439 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: coming season in the. 440 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: AFC, Right now, I would have to And I'm not 441 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 4: just saying this because where we are, you would have 442 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 4: to just feel like number one has to be the 443 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: for Broncos right now. And I hate to say it 444 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 4: like that, but making that trade is a big deal. 445 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: Like that trade is a huge deal. And I think 446 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: out of all the free agency moves we've seen, teams make, 447 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 4: that trade enhanced to Broncos value more than really I 448 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: think any any of the move out there. 449 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting, by the way, the sports books have the 450 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: Broncos as a sixth team in the AFC. 451 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 4: That's crazy to me because then I'm looking at these 452 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: teams right and you know, every team like Houston, you 453 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 4: can say, but like it all depends when if CJ. 454 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 4: Stroud has a bounce back or you know, we say Baltimore, 455 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 4: but then it depends if Lamar's healthy. And so the 456 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: one team I could say, I think Buffalo, the Buffalo's 457 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 4: number one. I say Buffalo will be up there. I 458 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 4: think I need to see what the Patriots draft. 459 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: They are slightly ahead of the Broncos and fifth, and. 460 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 4: Then after that, I would have to say the Jacksonville Jaguarters. 461 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: Not ahead of them. And by the way, neither is Houston. 462 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't listen to like what other people say, 463 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 4: because even then, for me, the Broncos should be the 464 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 4: clear favor in the AFC West, which even before honestly 465 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 4: even be necessarily before Jayleen Waddle, just because I don't 466 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: feel like the team that did the most obviously was 467 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 4: the Raiders. But then they had to. 468 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: H they pointed out earlier and he gets a chuckle 469 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: out of this. They're flitted third to the AFC West. 470 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the they are. 471 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 5: And again that's why I asked about the skill position 472 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 5: players because I think I think the Bronco take the 473 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: quarterbacks out, no disrespect to It's not because of bo. 474 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: I'm just saying take the quarterbacks out because they tend 475 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 5: to skew to any sort of conversation, conversation about skill 476 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 5: position players, but without quarterbacks, I mean honestly, and I 477 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 5: know I call the games for the team, but I 478 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 5: think the Broncos have the best allotment of skill position players. 479 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: You know, they don't have a Bronc Bowers. 480 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 5: I get that, so that edge goes, but you look 481 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 5: at the Raiders wide receivers. 482 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: I don't like that. 483 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 5: I think Ashton Genty, right, I'll say right now, will 484 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: wind up having a better year than Amari and Hampton. Wow, Okay, okay, 485 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 5: this year, I've got to see it. Listen, I got 486 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 5: I gotta see. I got to see something from Hampton. 487 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 5: He runs hard, and I know they're going to put 488 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: an emphasis on the run, and he's now playing for 489 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: the best run game coordinator I believe in football and 490 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel. 491 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: But I got it. I gotta see it. 492 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 4: That old line in in Vegas is I think really 493 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: last year was the number one reason why genty really 494 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 4: didn't do as much as it was expected. 495 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: You got a neo higher at the position coach, and 496 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: then you had a lack of talent. 497 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: You know, along all. 498 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: That, they've upgraded that a little bit, Dad at Spencer 499 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: Burford at the left guard, Tyler Lindabaum obviously that contract 500 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: at center. But you know, Colton Miller is a pretty 501 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: decent left. But then it moved consistent career powers Johnson 502 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: is he is more of a natural position at guard, 503 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: and then they've got to figure out the right tackle. 504 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 3: They've got Dj Glaize there right now. 505 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I still think the Chargers will have a 506 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: better old line than the Raiders, and I think that's 507 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: going and I truly believe though that they both having 508 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: Mike P. Daniel and then having Clinton Kolbiak being the 509 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: guys with the offense, I think you're going to see tremendous, 510 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: tremendous output from both of them compared to last year. 511 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: Well, the Chargers problems on the line last year were injuries. 512 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: I mean you had a Seawan Slater, Joel both go 513 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: down that that's that's rough. They added Cole Strange and 514 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: Tyler Bianich on the inside of the line, and then 515 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: Trevor Penning of course the left guard. So the Chargers, 516 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: I mean, on paper, you would think it would be 517 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: a little well, Pitting just started playing guard. 518 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 4: So that's after really not being able, not being able 519 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 4: to cut it a tackle. So this is and I 520 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 4: always say this, this is not Madden. You just can't 521 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: accept You just can't expect that you just because you 522 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: move a play from one position it's going to be 523 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 4: better than another one. And so this is going to 524 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 4: be a whole nother year of just fail Lan out 525 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: and seeing if he's if he can actually cut it 526 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 4: at guard. But I think the Charges do have a 527 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 4: better old line, right now and because they have to. 528 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: You know, Vershon Slater when healthy is one of the 529 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: better tackles in the league. 530 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: And Joe Alt looked pretty good. 531 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 4: Joel looks straight except against Miles Garrett, so I assume 532 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: that he looked good against rest of the league. 533 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 2: So in that, in that. 534 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: Aspect, I just definitely think that the Charges have the 535 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: upper hand. And it's just that we all we all 536 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 4: can agree though that Ashton Denty is a better talent 537 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: I guess you could say at running back, because I 538 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: like the what I like what he does, I love 539 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: how he can. He's just such a dynamic player. And 540 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: he was what was he what was he drafted? Numbers 541 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 4: six and just when we played him, Yeah, yeah, you 542 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 4: might be able to get back there because the line 543 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: wasn't very good. But you're still going to tackle that man. 544 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: And and that's the issue. Quadzilla man, I'm talking about 545 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 4: strong strong, Dave Strong. 546 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks strong. But I didn't have to tackle 547 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: him either. You did. 548 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: That's I got a couple of questions in here for 549 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: the nine seven zero for you guys said, what would 550 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: free agency look like if it happened after the draft. 551 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: It'd be way different and I think the I think 552 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 4: the veteran players wouldn't like it either, you know what 553 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 4: I mean. That's actually an interesting question. What do you think. 554 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 5: I think the upper tier veteran free agents would not 555 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 5: benefit from that, but maybe the second tier guys, and 556 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 5: if there is such a thing as the lower tier guys, 557 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 5: it might it might be better. 558 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, second part of his question here, how do teams 559 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: justify paying the quarterback position this much when they haven't 560 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: won a ring and specifically cites Daniel Jones as an example. 561 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know. 562 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: I'm not saying this about Daniel, but I've been saying 563 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 4: this about a lot of quarterbacks in the league. I 564 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 4: think we have a problem. And I'm all for all 565 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 4: the quarterbacks getting their money and do or not, But 566 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: if you're talking about the construction of the team, I 567 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: think teams too quickly throw money at quarterbacks that they're 568 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 4: not sure about, you know what I mean. And that's 569 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: just the reality of it of guys who especially don't 570 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: let them be a first round pick from before. Because 571 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: the NFL loved these play these gms and the coaches 572 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: they loved to be right, and so you're gonna have 573 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 4: a mid tier I guess quarterback, and if he was 574 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: a first round pick that they drafted, he's going to 575 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: get paid top toier money because that proves that that 576 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 4: draft pick was correct. 577 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: I would say, also, it's impossible to win in the 578 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 5: league sustained winning without that guy. You can I mean, 579 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow and the Bengals got to a Super Bowl 580 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 5: and didn't have They had adequate defense that year, but 581 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 5: didn't have that. There wasn't greatness all around, but they 582 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 5: still got there largely due to the greatness of Joe 583 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 5: Burrow and Jamar Chase and t Higgins, Right, But you can't. 584 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 5: I mean, it's almost impossible to sustain winning without that guy. 585 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 5: So you have to overpay for that guy and sometimes 586 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 5: give him more money than he you probably think he deserves, 587 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 5: because I mean, I think the culture a prime example, 588 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones has got a two year deal with incentives 589 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 5: that could make him fifty million to one hundred million 590 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 5: dollar two year deal. I'm sure there are people in 591 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 5: Indianapolis and say, I mean, okay, it was pretty good 592 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 5: last year until they got hurt a serious injury. 593 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: They're eight and two now. 594 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 3: They were the top offense in the league. 595 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: They were the top offense in the league. 596 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: But as to Shelby's point, you're paying a guy one 597 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: hundred million dollars the next two years based on what 598 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 5: he accomplished with you in one year for ten games, 599 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 5: and you can't But you can't afford not to pay 600 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 5: because somebody else would have paid him. 601 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: And that's that's where I was going with this. You 602 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: can't afford not to pay him. Look at the quarterbacks 603 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: that make over forty million a year, real quick hit 604 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: these four year traffic. 605 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: But tell me overpaid or not. 606 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: Matt Staff for forty million a year, no argum, right, yeah, yeah, 607 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones forty four million a year overpaid right to 608 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: be determined, forty five million year for Mahomes under forty 609 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: six million for Deshaun Watson. 610 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: There's your guy. I'm gonna skip on that. One. 611 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 3: Fifty one million a year Jalen Hurts. 612 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: Fifty two for Lamar, fifty two under for Lamar, fifty 613 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: three for Party, fifty three for Golf, fifty five for 614 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, fifty five for Jordan Love, fifty five for 615 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, fifty five for Joe Burrow. 616 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: And then sixty a year for Dak Prescott. That's crazy 617 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: out Dax. Still it's now he signed that deal that 618 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: was like, that was two years ago, and he. 619 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Called the wedding off before U she wouldn't sign. 620 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: The NBA, So I guess he's getting to keep it. 621 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: Five six zeros text line. 622 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: A couple of a couple of somebody asked about the 623 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: their bowliever question earlier. 624 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: You are a believer of both, so we always settled that. 625 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 4: I'm happy you're hearing not Ryan, because Ryan would non 626 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 4: stop he still non stop brings up the one comment 627 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 4: I had about bow which was not wrong, in which 628 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: he did not play the greatest when we played in 629 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 4: that game. 630 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 631 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 4: It was his first game was one against James. No, 632 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 4: that was the one that was Yeah, and that was 633 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: the one game I feel like it was the whole year. 634 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 4: I was probably his worst game of the year. 635 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: He was Wasn't that the game he was playing on 636 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: the fractured back after the Raiders game? 637 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: Maybe for. 638 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, everybody was throwing in that game. 639 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: Good lower that was the That was the ninety three year, right, yeah, 640 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: over three game? Okay. Yeah. 641 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: The only comment I ever remember on a quarterback was 642 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: your first game against the Broncos. After leaving the Broncos, 643 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: that's the only quarterback comment from. 644 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: The ride you got on national television. It was like, 645 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: it's right now. 646 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: It's like I could never show my face again. I see, 647 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: I see how this is. I was gonna show up 648 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: with some Is that me? Oh, it's me, of course 649 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: of this. Hi mom, that's embarrassing.