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Speaker 3: head football coach of the Cincinnati Bearcats spoke to the

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Speaker 3: media just a few hours ago, and here's what he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just you know, going back to Saturday,

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Speaker 4: obviously proud of the guys the way they came out

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Speaker 4: and played right from the start, got a good lead

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Speaker 4: and and really uh a little bit of a lull

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Speaker 4: again there in the second half, but turned it on

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Speaker 4: again on the fourth quarter. So just just proud of

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Speaker 4: how they finished. Great atmosphere there at Nippert homecoming. It

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Speaker 4: was awesome to see everybody in red and for us

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Speaker 4: to be able to go out and get a great

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Speaker 4: win that was obviously huge too. And you know, it

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Speaker 4: just keeps us, uh, keeps us going and uh. And

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Speaker 4: now it leads to this week. You know, a tough

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Speaker 4: opportunity for us to go to Utah and play one

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Speaker 4: of the hotter teams I think that's out there, especially

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Speaker 4: them playing at home. They did have an outstanding home

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Speaker 4: field advantage in that stadium, and you know, coach Widiam

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Speaker 4: has been there a long time, I think this twenty

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Speaker 4: first year as the head coach, and has implemented a

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Speaker 4: lot of great ball there over the years, especially defensively.

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Speaker 4: I think they're kind of known for that this year.

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Speaker 4: Have an outstanding offense and they're able to run the football.

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Speaker 4: They keep a lot of pressure on the on the

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Speaker 4: defense and uh, you know, I think obviously it'll be

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Speaker 4: a tough challenge for us, you know, but we're looking

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Speaker 4: forward to it. We're excited about it, you know, and

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Speaker 4: got to have a great week of practice.

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Speaker 5: You talk about their offense, Devin dan Pierre. There have

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Speaker 5: been a couple of games earlier where it felt like

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Speaker 5: you didn't mind if the quarterback ran around a little

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Speaker 5: bit because you thought you could still.

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Speaker 2: Contain them to stamp here.

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Speaker 5: Different and a guy that you let him run around

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Speaker 5: a little bit, you could see some of those sixty

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Speaker 5: seventy yard touchdown rounds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think he's certainly an outstanding football player,

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Speaker 4: you know, and it's part of what they want to do.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's not like you know, I think about Central Florida

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Speaker 4: a couple weeks ago, where you know they're dropping back

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Speaker 4: and then he's going to scramble to get these are

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Speaker 4: these are These are called Q run plays, and you

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Speaker 4: better have your defense set up to handle that. If

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Speaker 4: you're not, it's gonna be a long day, I think,

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Speaker 4: you know. And it doesn't matter if it's damp here.

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Speaker 4: It could be the freshman who I had an outstanding

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Speaker 4: game this past week too. I mean, maybe as good

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Speaker 4: as half as we've seen all year in college football.

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Speaker 4: You know, close to four hundred yards on one side

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Speaker 4: and negative eight ten of the other, and that's that's

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Speaker 4: unheard of, and you know, part of that was the

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Speaker 4: quarterback run. I mean, I second player of the game

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Speaker 4: you're maybe more susceptible to a pass, you know. And

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Speaker 4: so I think that's where the pressure they put on you.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's a guy obviously gonna be a

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Speaker 4: great challenge for us.

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Speaker 6: It sounds like.

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Speaker 7: They're going to start damp here.

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Speaker 6: But you mentioned the other guy. How does that.

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Speaker 7: Affect your preparation? Are they two similar or what did

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ount, I don't think they change a whole lot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's part of their offense of how they're

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Speaker 4: They want to run the football a lot of different ways,

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Speaker 4: put stretch on the defense. And obviously, you know, Nampier

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Speaker 4: we anticipate him playing and you know, but now for them,

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Speaker 4: twelve player of the Week this past week. So but

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's what they do scheme wise.

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Speaker 4: You just have to defend that that whole.

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Speaker 5: Offense first time this year against what most of the

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Speaker 5: metrics say. It's a top ten defense. What are the challenges?

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Speaker 5: They have a high stop rate, they're good at getting

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean it's a great defense we're playing.

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Speaker 4: You know, you mentioned the metrics and just look at

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Speaker 4: and it backs it up.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're very stout.

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Speaker 4: They have two you know, tall, strong defensive ends on

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Speaker 4: one of the top SAT guys in the country. The

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Speaker 4: other one, I mean he looks he runs like a linebacker,

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Speaker 4: DB's and they put pressure on you. I mean I'm

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Speaker 4: watching the Colorado game, and you know, I felt like

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Speaker 4: they pressured them all night. And they lived in the backfield,

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Speaker 4: so they constantly put pressure on the offenses, and you

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Speaker 4: And I think, you know, part of that is playing

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Speaker 4: very similar probably our first game against you know, an Airhead,

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Speaker 6: So, you know, so you have to stay on the sticks.

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Speaker 4: You have to stay where you can get those down

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Speaker 4: the distances manageable. And then we got to do a

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Speaker 4: great job of being able to do both run and pass.

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Speaker 4: And I think these guys do a great job of

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Speaker 6: Uh, And I think a lot of it has to

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Speaker 6: play a lot of man man to man coach.

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Speaker 2: I was watching the Clifton cut last night.

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Speaker 8: Something that caught my attention was the quote that you

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Speaker 8: used put them in the phone booth. I was just

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Speaker 8: curious if you could elaborate a little bit more on

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Speaker 8: that and where that quote kind of came.

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Speaker 4: From Yeah, I mean we were just you know, as

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Speaker 4: we were preparing last week, and really and really it

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Speaker 4: just speaks to being a physical football team. You know,

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Speaker 4: we have to, you know, and impose your will on

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Speaker 4: whoever you're going against. And really it's the one on

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Speaker 4: what that battle is that you know, if it's Gavin

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Speaker 4: right there, and you can go to.

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Speaker 6: Every single position.

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Speaker 4: And really just trying to emphasize how physical we needed

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Speaker 6: And I think and we were.

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Speaker 4: You know, we came out of that game running the

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Speaker 4: football for two hundred and sixty five yards. We imposed

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Speaker 4: our will and I think that's what kind of game

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Speaker 4: that was last week. You know, now this week you're

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Speaker 4: playing a team I think played the same way as

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Speaker 4: we tried to play last week. I think they're a

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Speaker 4: very physical team. They obviously want to run the football,

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Speaker 4: played great defense. I mean, this is this is a

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Speaker 4: so you know, this is going to be a very

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Speaker 4: physical contest as we played this week, and you know,

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Speaker 6: What we have to be able to prepare for as

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Speaker 6: we practice this week.

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Speaker 9: Scott looking at but Tywie Walker being the physical bullets

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Speaker 9: of a running back that he is, and then Evan Pryor,

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Speaker 9: who can hit a home run and basically any play.

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Speaker 9: Was this the vision that you had for these two

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Speaker 9: running backs to really compliment each other As this season

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Speaker 9: has gone on, you guys have won seven straight games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. You know, there's been a lot

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Speaker 4: of questions, you know, especially early on. I remember Scott

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Speaker 4: impose his will. He's had some great, tough yardage runs.

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Speaker 4: The fourth downs this past week was huge. I mean,

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Speaker 4: running through these guys, and then you have a guy

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Speaker 4: I think you want to keep those guys fresh. And

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Speaker 4: And so, you know, what we thought was gonna happen

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Speaker 4: that's just kind of how we would envision this, and

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Speaker 4: it's been fun to watch those guys work on Evan.

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Speaker 6: No, not yet.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll be listed probably as out as we

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Speaker 4: got to release that. So you know, we'll see how

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Speaker 4: he is and how he continues to progress throughout the week.

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Speaker 7: So Chance after him then, or or one of the

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Speaker 7: younger guys they've got Manny, you got, you got Chance,

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, all three of those guys could

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Speaker 4: be viable options for sure. You know, as we go

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Speaker 4: at with those guys. But you know, I think all

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Speaker 4: all those the other guys are similar to to.

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Speaker 6: Evan in fact that how they do know their speed.

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Speaker 4: Guys, they're quick, they're they're you know, a different style

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Speaker 7: What about the silent cadence, it's probably going to be

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Speaker 7: pretty noisy either. I don't know if any place is

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Speaker 6: It does. Yeah, we'll we'll prepare for that. You know.

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Speaker 4: One one good thing about having the indoor here, we

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Speaker 4: can be deafening inside this in this building. So that's

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Speaker 4: I will practice the next couple of days here for

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Speaker 4: Tuesday and Wednesdays practices and turn that up and work

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Speaker 4: our silent cadence. It's still you know, communication will be

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Speaker 4: really key offensively, you know, and watching them on film,

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Speaker 4: seven false start penalties maybe Colorado this past weekend they

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Speaker 10: So I think it would be a success because of

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Speaker 10: what Marvin Lewis had done and taking it to the

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Speaker 10: next level. Now, obviously the rest of it kind of

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Speaker 10: depends on what happens between now. And the end of

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Speaker 10: Joe Burrow's career here. That's ultimately what this franchise will.

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Speaker 2: Be judged by.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would assume if if there were a

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Speaker 3: decision to be made, you moved on from Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 3: then the remainder of this season would be a disaster,

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Speaker 3: disastrous this what's to stop it from being that already?

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Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's where we're trending to. I mean,

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Speaker 3: his tenure. It's weird because in his tenure, including playoffs

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Speaker 3: fifty four, fifty eight and one under five hundred, but

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Speaker 3: he erased what was a brutal first two years at

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Speaker 3: six twenty five and one and has turned that around.

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Speaker 3: He's turned this franchise around. But there's also the taste

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Speaker 3: of missing the playoffs for multiple seasons. It's weird because

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Speaker 3: it's impossible to say it was a failure because they

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Speaker 3: title games. I don't think I would say a resounding success.

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Speaker 3: I would say his tenure was positive. It wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: man Okay for me, it's been positive. I think he's

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Speaker 3: done great things for the culture. I think he's done

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Speaker 3: great things for the organization. I think I would feel

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Speaker 3: much differently if he's separated himself as the coach and

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Speaker 3: I think that would help him as well. But it's

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Speaker 3: hard because they would finish that tenure. If that were

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Speaker 3: to happen at the end of this year, it would

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Speaker 3: and I think that would be a hard pill to

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Speaker 3: swallow as well. Yeah, when we come back, the senior

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Speaker 3: vice president of Marketing for Penn Station, Jane McPherson, will

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Speaker 3: join us to tell us about some cool things the

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Speaker 3: with Moweger and Oakley Greens for quick hits. That all

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Speaker 3: still ahead since he three p sixty on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station Thanks to Penn Station.

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Speaker 13: Hey, it's Maeger. Did you miss yesterday's Tony and Mo

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Speaker 13: fifteen thirty dot com.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, it is since the three point sixty.

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Speaker 3: We are rolling along in our number three on ESBN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station of kay of course, thanks

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Speaker 3: to our friends here nowur number three at Penn Station.

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Speaker 3: A lot of good things hopping at Penn Station. The

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Speaker 3: collaboration with Barstool Sports, the Maggot Cheese steak that they

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Speaker 3: have going on. There's also the Ghost Pepper cheese that

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Speaker 3: you can put on any sub at Penn Station. But

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Speaker 3: there is something even bigger going on that is so

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Speaker 3: awesome with Penn Station. I want to spend a little

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Speaker 3: more time on that before we get the quick hits

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Speaker 3: today with the senior vice president of Marketing at Penn Station,

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Speaker 3: Jane McPherson, is joining us.

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Speaker 2: Hy Jane, how are you?

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Speaker 16: I am great? How are you, Tony?

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Speaker 2: I'm great.

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Speaker 3: I'm great always always awesome stuff going on at Penn Station.

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Speaker 3: But you guys have something going on right now. It's

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Speaker 3: deals for down Syndrome. Can you give us a little

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Speaker 3: bit more details about everything that's happening.

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Speaker 16: Oh my gosh, we would love to. At Penn Station,

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Speaker 16: we have a program that allows people to come in

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Speaker 16: and donate five dollars in exchange for a coupon booklet,

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Speaker 16: So we call it Deals for Down Syndrome the five

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Speaker 16: dollars donation trans for the consumer or for the buyer.

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Speaker 16: They come in and they get a five dollars coupon booklet.

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Speaker 16: It has a free small sub coupon in it, a

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Speaker 16: coupon for a free lemonade, a free cookie, or a bogo.

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Speaker 16: So there's four options that a pen Stations fan can

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Speaker 16: use when they donate five dollars to down syndrome.

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Speaker 3: You guys, is this the first year you guys have

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Speaker 3: been doing this or is this something that's been recurring

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Speaker 3: for you guys.

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Speaker 16: You know what, it's the first year that we have

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Speaker 16: done the Deals for Down Syndrome fund raising booklet or

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Speaker 16: coupon booklet. So this is a first year for us

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Speaker 16: for doing that. But we have been working with Down

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Speaker 16: syndrome associations now for many many years. Over the years

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Speaker 16: we've been doing this, we've raised about two million dollars

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Speaker 16: for different Down syndrome associations throughout the United States wherever

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Speaker 16: pen Stations operate. You know, we're actually located and headquartered

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Speaker 16: in Ohio, so we have a huge contribution to the

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Speaker 16: Cincinnati Down Syndrome Association from local who love penn Station,

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Speaker 16: who also want to make a difference in the down

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Speaker 16: syndrome community. So the opportunity is to make a contribution

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Speaker 16: but also get an amazing benefit from penn Station with

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Speaker 16: these freebies that are featured in the coupum booklet.

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Speaker 3: How I know it's running right now. How long will

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Speaker 3: this run through for people to be able to take

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Speaker 3: advantage of this?

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Speaker 16: Well, it is currently running. Most pen Stations still have

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Speaker 16: booklets available to buy. And you know, when you put

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Speaker 16: in that five dollars contribution, you get the coupon booklet.

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Speaker 16: It's worth about twenty dollars worth of deals and you

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Speaker 16: can find them at you know, one of the fifty

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Speaker 16: plus pen station locations in Cincinnati where pen Station is

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Speaker 16: located and headquartered.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm on the website right now. There is

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Speaker 3: a link on the website that details more in depth

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Speaker 3: to deal for down syndrome. Also an opportunity if you

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Speaker 3: want to donate to your local down syndrome organization, you

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Speaker 3: can do that. Why was this and why has this

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Speaker 3: been important for you guys to be a part of.

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Speaker 3: Obviously giving back into the community is huge, and you

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Speaker 3: guys do so well with so many different things with that,

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Speaker 3: But why has this been something that you guys have

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Speaker 3: circled of importance.

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Speaker 16: You know, the Down Cndroome Association is not as high

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Speaker 16: profile as a lot of causes across the United States,

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Speaker 16: but we felt like the community was something that we

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Speaker 16: could have a big impact with and that really needed

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Speaker 16: the funding and the support, but also make a huge

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Speaker 16: difference with a community of really special people that are

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Speaker 16: really important contributors to the community, and we wanted to

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Speaker 16: give them the support to get the types of get

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Speaker 16: great programming that supports their unique way, unique style, and

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Speaker 16: unique needs. So the Deals for Down Syndrome program does

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Speaker 16: support them. Over the past years, we've raised about two

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Speaker 16: million dollars, which has been really amazing to support this

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Speaker 16: community of amazing humans.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome stuff. Jane, what is the easiest way obviously,

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Speaker 3: just to get into your local pen station and you

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Speaker 3: could find out more information. You could purchase the booklet

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Speaker 3: with a five dollars donation or go to the website

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Speaker 3: as well. Is that the easiest way to learn more

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Speaker 3: and to become involved.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the easiest way to access one

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Speaker 16: really is to place an online order. You can place

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Speaker 16: an online order for pickup or delivery for some great

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Speaker 16: cheese steaks or Italian subs, and then also order your

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Speaker 16: Deals for Down Syndrome coupon booklet along with your fresh

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Speaker 16: cut fries and lemonade and sub and then order it

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Speaker 16: online and get it delivered. So that's the easiest way

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Speaker 16: to access it. Or you can go into your local

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Speaker 16: Pen station and pick up one while you're picking up lunch.

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Speaker 3: For dinner and grab some cookies as well. I can't

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Speaker 3: stress that enough, is Jane McPherson. Jane, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: We certainly appreciate Penn Station here with Cincy three sixty

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Speaker 3: and awesome to see all the amazing things that you

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Speaker 3: guys are involved in. And we can't thank you enough

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Speaker 3: for your time today.

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Speaker 13: We love it.

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Speaker 16: Thank you so much, Tony, and have a great afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that is Jane McPherson from Penn Station. This is

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Speaker 3: Sincy three sixty brought to you here and now number

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Speaker 3: three by Penn Station. Moweger is next with quick Hits

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Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 6: It's Closy.

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Speaker 14: Cincy three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati's Sports station,

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Speaker 14: It's time for Cincy three sixty quick hits on ESPN

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Speaker 14: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 6: Is looking for Mo?

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Speaker 3: All right, let's find Mo because it's Tuesday, which means

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Speaker 3: we can find him at Oakley Greens in Oakley, joining

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Speaker 3: us now getting ready for the Mowegor Show.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Mo?

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Speaker 11: How are we doing? Fellas?

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Speaker 2: I'm great?

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Speaker 9: Mo?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 13: Man? I've never been better. I'm at Oakley Greens, got

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Speaker 13: a gorgeous day outside and got a nice cold Oka Coola.

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Speaker 11: We have a lot going on here and we have

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Speaker 11: a radio show that I think is going to be

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Speaker 11: a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: What are you coming up on that radio show?

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Speaker 11: What a fun sports night?

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Speaker 6: Last night?

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Speaker 2: Equinox FC Cincinnati.

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Speaker 13: Wins right Game one, terrific defensive performance, big goal by

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Speaker 13: Kevin Denke. So Taylor Twelman's going to join our show.

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Speaker 13: Love that guy at four forty five. We're looking forward

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Speaker 13: to that.

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Speaker 11: Yeah he is.

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Speaker 13: He is the best of the business. We'll talk about

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Speaker 13: last night. Did you guys stay up?

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Speaker 2: Nope?

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Speaker 3: I stayed up till eleven thirty. I dozed off. I

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Speaker 3: and I saw text messages that the game was still

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Speaker 3: going on, and I watched the remainder of.

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Speaker 13: It in the fifteenth inning. I just started rooting for

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Speaker 13: like thirty five innings. I wanted to be awake when

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Speaker 13: my wife got up for work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you regret it all today to say was it

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Speaker 2: worth it?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? It's a great game. I love watching great games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah.

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Speaker 11: It was a terrific game. Now.

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Speaker 13: I think it's it's fascinating to think about how Toronto respawns,

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Speaker 13: because you know, the Red Sox in twenty eighteen lost

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Speaker 13: an eighteen inning Game three and then fell behind four

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Speaker 13: nothing in Game four and still came back and won.

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Speaker 13: So can Toronto do that tonight against show? Hey Otani

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Speaker 13: was Shane Bieber on the hill. I think it's fascinating.

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Speaker 13: What's not fascinating is Duke Tobin and the Bengals. But

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Speaker 13: out of some obligation, I guess we'll spend some time

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Speaker 13: on them. Paul Danner Junior will be with us in

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Speaker 13: the first hour of the show. Our guy Sean sayed

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Speaker 13: from these Stats and Schemes podcast, we'll talk some UC

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Speaker 13: football as well. Scott Sadafield talked earlier today, will have

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Speaker 13: the best of that.

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Speaker 11: I just want.

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Speaker 13: Everybody to go back and admits something that I tried

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Speaker 13: to remind everybody of two years ago. And I'm you know,

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Speaker 13: I'm not a huge like, Hey, I was right, you

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Speaker 13: were wrong.

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Speaker 11: Hey I told you so. I don't believe that.

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Speaker 13: And I think this UC football team still has a

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Speaker 13: lot of work to do for us all to feel

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Speaker 13: great about the season.

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Speaker 11: But there was something that I tried to say.

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Speaker 13: Every week two two and a half years ago and

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Speaker 13: nobody wanted to hear it.

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Speaker 11: I've proven to be right, and so I just want

662
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Speaker 11: someone to say, Mo, you were right, I was wrong.

663
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Speaker 13: You're smart, I'm dumb, You're attractive, Yeah, I'm ugly.

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Speaker 11: Just let's just go down that.

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Speaker 6: Road for a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: You know, they might have to do it. We've talked

667
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Speaker 3: yesterday off air. They've been pretty healthy. They might have

668
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Speaker 3: to do it shorthanded. If they can't get Evan Pryor

669
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Speaker 3: back this week. How much difference does that make in

670
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Speaker 3: this offense?

671
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it's gonna make a difference. You know,

672
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Speaker 13: we're gonna see I guess a little bit more of

673
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Speaker 13: Manny Covey and Chase Williams. I don't think Evan Pryor

674
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Speaker 13: is gonna plays Scott Sadderfield is gonna put him on

675
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Speaker 13: the injury report as out that obviously, I guess can

676
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Speaker 13: change as the week unfolds, but it was the very

677
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Speaker 13: first thing I said to you after the game was

678
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Speaker 13: I'm interested in seeing what happens with Evan. To this point,

679
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Speaker 13: they've won seven straight games. I think, largely on the

680
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Speaker 13: strength of really good health. Obviously would love to have

681
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Speaker 13: Dante Corleone on, but Evan Pryor is their home run

682
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Speaker 13: and hit her offensively. I think the good news is,

683
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Speaker 13: you know, number one, when you have a balanced offense,

684
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Speaker 13: and you saw it this week, you can kind of

685
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Speaker 13: lean on the other part of your team. But man,

686
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Speaker 13: Evan Pryor is often good for one or two long

687
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Speaker 13: runs per game, and not having him is going to

688
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 13: be a tough blow.

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Speaker 3: Going back to last night, I find many people that

690
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Speaker 3: just don't like the Dodgers, and you know they bought

691
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Speaker 3: the chance. Whatever it is, I find myself almost impossible

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Speaker 3: to root against.

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Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman agreed.

694
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Speaker 3: He's so good, the ultimate professional. Him having that moment

695
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Speaker 3: last night was awesome, But there was a moment MO

696
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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, you and I were sitting

697
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Speaker 3: in Stillwater and we watched a baseball game where Shoheo

698
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Speaker 3: Tani struck out ten and hit three home runs. And

699
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Speaker 3: I remember talking with you like, this is something we're

700
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Speaker 3: never going to see again, this is this is history,

701
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: and then you flash forward to last night. I don't

702
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: think in my lifetime, I'll ever see something like that again,

703
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: getting on base nine times. And then you flash forward

704
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: and the guy's gonna go take the mound today to

705
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Speaker 3: pitch in Game four of the World Series.

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Speaker 2: It's literally other worldly what he's doing.

707
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Speaker 11: It's the greatest show in sports. You know, you might

708
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Speaker 11: not want to hear.

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Speaker 13: That because you don't love baseball, or because he doesn't

710
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Speaker 13: play for the Reds. He's the greatest show in sports.

711
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 13: He comes up and ties the game with the home

712
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 13: run last night. He has the respect of a manager

713
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Speaker 13: to a degree that with Mookie.

714
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Speaker 2: Bets hitting behind him.

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Speaker 13: In Game three of the World Series, the Blue Jays

716
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 13: just said often with him representing the winning run, we're

717
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 13: putting you.

718
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: On yeah five times, Like I'm not.

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Speaker 13: Sure we ever saw Barry Bonds get that level of respect.

720
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Speaker 13: And he was the guy who was intentionally walked more

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Speaker 13: than anyone. I mean after the game. It was acknowledged

722
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 13: in Game four. We're just gonna put him on. Yeah,

723
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Speaker 13: he's hitting in front of Mookie Bets and Freddie Freeman.

724
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Speaker 13: And by the way, he got thrown out stealing trying

725
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 13: to steal second base last night.

726
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Speaker 11: But he could steal a bag too.

727
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Speaker 13: He is so dangerous that the other team's managers are

728
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Speaker 13: now saying, screw it, we'd rather put ourselves at a

729
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 13: greater statistical risk of giving up a run in what

730
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Speaker 13: are likely to be close games in the World Series.

731
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Speaker 13: That actually pitched to him. It's the greatest show in

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Speaker 13: sports right now. Yeah, I'm not. I'm rooting for the

733
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Speaker 13: Dodgers to a degree in winning for a great series,

734
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Speaker 13: and so I'd like for Toronto to win some games here.

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Speaker 13: You know, the Blue Jays had the fifth highest pay

736
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 13: roll in baseball, right.

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Speaker 11: You know?

738
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Speaker 13: They they came this close to acquiring show Hey O,

739
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 13: Tommy and and probably would have paid almost as much

740
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Speaker 13: as the Dodgers.

741
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 11: Are, Like, this isn't.

742
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Speaker 13: Some mom and pop Canadian franchise where they they put

743
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 13: together their pennies by selling Tim Horton's donuts in the

744
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 13: middle of a residential neighborhood. To buy a baseball team

745
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 13: and everybody's making the fifth highest payroll in baseball. Yeah,

746
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 13: why do we hate teams that.

747
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: Try to win pay money?

748
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Speaker 13: I'm with you, Like you can hate the rules, and

749
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 13: you could you could hope that baseball changes its rules. Okay,

750
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 13: there's something to that. I'll acknowledge that. Don't hate the Dodgers.

751
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 13: Hate the Pirates yep, who never try to win. Hate

752
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 13: the A's who sabotage their relationship with Oakland.

753
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 11: By not trying to win.

754
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 13: Like baseball fans are brainwashed, and I mean this, Baseball

755
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 13: fans have been brainwashed over the last thirty years to

756
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 13: believe that you're evil if you try to win, you're

757
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 13: evil if you try to take advantage of advantages that

758
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 13: you have that the sport says you could have. Meanwhile,

759
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 13: owners go, oh, you know, we don't have any money,

760
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 13: and I'm not even sure if we can turn on

761
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 13: the lags at the ballpark, and a lot of fans,

762
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Speaker 13: not most, not all, but a lot of fans go, okay,

763
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 13: we don't need to see your books, like I don't

764
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 13: understand it. Yeah, so yeah, man, I'm problem with the Dodgers.

765
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Speaker 13: By the way, Dodgers are great at developing players. Sure,

766
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 13: they've brought a lot of guys through their system, Like

767
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 13: you know, again, I want a seven game series, and

768
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Speaker 13: then at that point I don't really care that much,

769
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Speaker 13: but I do not understand. I'm not rooting for them

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00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 13: because they have a high pay rust. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One other thing with Otani because in our lifetimes, I

772
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: remember watching Jordan, I watched Lebron. You watch Tiger Woods

773
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: in his prime. We just saw Alex Ovechkin break the

774
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: all time goalscorer record in the National Hockey League. We're

775
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: now getting to watch Otani. There's a large contingent that

776
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: thinks Tom Brady is the greatest of all time in

777
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: the NFL. When you think of the greats that you've

778
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: had a chance to watch in your lifetime as a

779
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: sports fan, now seeing what Otani's doing. Danman put it

780
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: well earlier, like there's going to be one hundred years

781
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Speaker 3: from now where folks are going to talk about Otani

782
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: the way people have talked about Babe Ruth and what

783
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: he did, and we're alive to see that. Where do

784
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: you rank Otani in the athletes that you've had an

785
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: opportunity to watch?

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Speaker 13: Well, I think baseball is different because one guy can

787
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 13: only make so much of an impact. Like the two

788
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 13: greatest baseball players I have ever seen are Barry Bonds

789
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 13: and King Griffy Junior. Neither has a championship. They have

790
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 13: one World Series between them combined. And so if you

791
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 13: put sho hey Otani on the Pittsburgh Pirates or some

792
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 13: of the recent Reds teams of recent vintage, he's not

793
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 13: making that much of an impact. But the respect he's

794
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 13: shown by other teams, the home runs that he hits,

795
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 13: these just majestic, towering blasts. What he does on the mound,

796
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Speaker 13: it's unlike anything we've seen in the sport.

797
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Speaker 11: I don't love comparing.

798
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Speaker 13: A baseball player to a basketball player because a great

799
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 13: basketball player can make so much more of a difference.

800
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 13: Same for a great quarterback. But in baseball, I don't

801
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 13: think we've seen anything like this, and I think it's

802
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 13: a lot of fun.

803
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 11: Man. And look, I get it.

804
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Speaker 13: There are baseball fans who if their team's not playing,

805
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 13: they don't watch. That's okay, It's not up to me

806
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 13: to tell people what to do with their free time

807
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 13: and money. But I also hear some of the same

808
00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 13: baseball fans go, well, we don't have any stars, No stars.

809
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 13: This guy you want to watch this dude, Kidney, by

810
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 13: the way, seems like an awesome teammate. His teammates really

811
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 13: seem to like him. And I think it's cool that

812
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 13: he's being given this stage too, because you know, I

813
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 13: mentioned Ken Griffy Junior never really got this stage. You know,

814
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 13: played in a in a playoff with the Seattle Mariners

815
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 13: against the New York Yankees. That was great, but people

816
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 13: hated baseball at that point, so they weren't watching. Played

817
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 13: in the playoffs a few other times, never really took.

818
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 13: I think it's cool that the biggest star in the

819
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 13: sport is getting this stage. And and again, Man, if

820
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 13: that bothers you, because the Dodgers spent a lot of money, well,

821
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Speaker 13: then root for the lockout that's coming next year, right.

822
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Speaker 11: I mean, honestly, that's that's how it changes.

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Speaker 13: Root for like a four year lockout because that's the

824
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 13: only way baseball is economically. So enjoy not having any

825
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 13: baseball for four years? Why you enjoy that lockout?

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Speaker 10: Well, before we let you go, former Bengals defensive tackle

827
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 10: Lawrence Guy announced his retirement. What are your memories of

828
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 10: the Lawrence Guy era, oh man.

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Speaker 2: We show, you know, I scrap everything.

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Speaker 13: So he played for the Patriots, right, And there was

831
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Speaker 13: this time where if the Bengals got anybody who would

832
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Speaker 13: even like spend the night in Boston, it's like Patriots Way,

833
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 13: Patriots Way. Remember Ben Jarvis breenellis, oh yeah, Patriots Way.

834
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Speaker 13: And then got here and then he was like that

835
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 13: Patriots Way sort of sucked. But there was a time

836
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Speaker 13: where it's like, oh, Patriots Way, yeah, yeah, yeah, Lawrence

837
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Speaker 13: Guy defensive tackle. There it is, I believe, the only

838
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Speaker 13: Bengals player with the last name of Guy. And if

839
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Speaker 13: they invite him for a ring of honor, so is

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Speaker 13: he gonna lie about the Bengals not paying his airfare

841
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 13: and hotel?

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Speaker 2: I can't say. Mulager is up next. Good show.

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Speaker 3: He's got Paul Danner Junior joining him in our number one.

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Speaker 3: We're done. Thanks for listening. We're back at it tomorrow

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Speaker 3: from noon to three. Until then, enjoyed The Malaga Show.

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Speaker 3: Next on the SBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 14: Mm hmmm, sol u c k Y Cincinnati, make us

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Speaker 14: the number one.

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Speaker 16: Pre said on your