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Speaker 2: What what did they say in that commercial?

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Speaker 2: Tony and Austin are But you know what, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I just did it a few minutes ago. I just

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Speaker 2: did it a few minutes ago. I went to ESPN

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Speaker 2: dot com and I looked at bubble Watch, and there

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Speaker 2: the Bearcats is long shots. Now you might say, well,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of teams in college basketball that are

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Speaker 2: listed as long shots. Not every team is listed, so

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Speaker 2: there they are. They have at least remained on Bubble Watch.

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Speaker 2: Now long shots means they don't have much of a

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Speaker 2: chance because you know, they still have to go to Kansas,

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Speaker 2: and they still have to go to Texas Tech. Not

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Speaker 2: to mention the other games they have, but they won yesterday.

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Speaker 2: They won yesterday in a game in which they didn't

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Speaker 2: play very well, and over the last couple of years

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Speaker 2: they've kind of missed that right. One of the marks

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Speaker 2: you're a Bearcat fan, think back to some of your

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Speaker 2: most beloved, revered teams. One thing they were really good at.

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Speaker 2: They were good at this under Mick. They were good

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Speaker 2: at this under Hugs more than twenty years ago, playing poorly,

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Speaker 2: finding ways to win, playing poorly, sometimes at home against

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Speaker 2: by finding a way to win. They did that yesterday,

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Speaker 2: down by five points with less than ninety seconds to go,

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Speaker 2: on an afternoon where they were mostly I don't want

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Speaker 2: need to be, and they were so bad that they

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Speaker 2: allowed a bad Utah team to hang around longer than

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Speaker 2: So as a result, that's three consecutive victories. I do

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Speaker 2: not believe and maybe this is just me. I don't

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Speaker 2: UC Basketball's DNA. But let's at least acknowledge this. A

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Speaker 2: week and a half ago, after Wes Miller's postgame comments

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Speaker 2: the postgame show. By the way, it wasn't like he

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Speaker 2: There were at that time eight games to go, and

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Speaker 2: Is he gonna lose his job? Is it time to

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Speaker 2: They responded by playing, for the most part pretty well,

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Speaker 2: there's no one, no one within the sound of my

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Speaker 2: I don't believe in giving credit for playing hard, I'll

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Speaker 2: to college basketball weekend. Xavier beats a bad Marquette team.

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Speaker 2: They've shown some bounds back and ability often this season.

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Speaker 2: on Friday, and by about nine point thirty, everybody in

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Speaker 2: Now that might have been a byproduct of their not

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Speaker 2: It was really cool watching people that I'm sure had

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Speaker 2: finish the season undefeated. It was cool watching Miami basketball

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Speaker 2: and so it's snowballing. They've got a really tough test

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Speaker 2: We talked about this during quick Hits. I think Miami's

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Speaker 2: don't know, man. I went to the Miami UMass game

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Speaker 2: but they beat Ou. They covered the spread. Now sixteen

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Speaker 2: the clichede saying, By the way, it's not entirely accurate,

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Speaker 2: but it's out there. Good teams win, great teams cover.

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Speaker 2: Miami covered again on Friday. More on the RedHawks in

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Speaker 2: just a bit. I saw a clip from Goodyear earlier

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Speaker 2: sixty two games. And this is a pretty big topic

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Speaker 2: you can't, why because he wants to play every dame.

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Speaker 2: We just went round and around and around and around

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Speaker 2: hopefully Ellie is healthy. But even if he is, Look, man,

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Speaker 2: But it is going to make sense to give him

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Speaker 2: need contributions. They really could use Sal Stewart to live

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Speaker 2: And will they be better produced better than Red's two

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Speaker 2: hole hitters produced last year? And yeah, there's tons of

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Speaker 2: different things we could talk about when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the starting pitching. But still, this team is built around

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Speaker 2: Ellie Dela Cruz making the leap, becoming a more refined, complete,

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Speaker 2: as a team, right They won eighty three games last year.

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Speaker 2: That's probably not gonna be good enough this season. They're

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Speaker 2: going to take a leap, maybe across the ninety win threshold.

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Speaker 2: If they do, they're a playoff team and I would

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Speaker 2: be willing to bet the division winner. How do they

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Speaker 2: take a leap if Ellie Dela Cruz doesn't. We talk

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Speaker 2: all the time about the things that have to go

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Speaker 2: better for this team. They've got to be better defensively. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: that means your shortstop play can't be an unending adventure.

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Speaker 2: And last year with Elliott short it was how many

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Speaker 2: times last season and when a ball was hit to him,

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Speaker 2: did you like hold your breath? And sometimes he would

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Speaker 2: That's got to be better. How you get better defensively

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Speaker 2: a mushroom trip last season. We want to see him

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Speaker 2: They are mostly healthy, which is the best part of

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Speaker 2: spring training right now, especially with the pitching. Nobody wants

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge that because they're afraid of Jinx's, but remember,

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Speaker 2: jinxes aren't real. The first spring training game will be

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Speaker 2: real on Saturday, Reds and Guardians in Goodyear three ten.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear that game live on seven hundred wl W

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Speaker 2: College Basketball Miami up to a twenty second in the

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Speaker 2: latest AP men's College Basketball poll. The RedHawks take on

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Speaker 2: UMass in Mhurst tomorrow, Louisville twenty first. Kentucky falls out

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Speaker 2: of the top twenty five after losing to Florida on

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Speaker 2: the road on Saturday. Nonetheless, you can talk to UK

447
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: hoops on the Mark Pope Radio Show. That's at six

448
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: o'clock as soon as We're done on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: Also later tonight, it's the NKU Coaches Show that is

450
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Speaker 2: going to be at seven pm on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: as well the Richard Patino radio show. The Musketeers Knocking

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Speaker 2: off Marquette on Saturday. That is tonight at seven pm

453
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Speaker 2: on the Double Nickel fifty five KRC NFL News. Miami

454
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Speaker 2: Dolphins are clearing house. Tyreek Hill is going to be released,

455
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Speaker 2: so is pass rusher Bradley Chubb. Women's hockey at the Olympics,

456
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Speaker 2: the US beat Sweden five nothing to advance to the

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Speaker 2: gold medal game. The Americans will play either Canada or Switzerland.

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Speaker 2: That game is late in the first period. USA Network

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Speaker 2: is showing that on tape delay like they're going to

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Speaker 2: broadcast the game at four o'clock. It's already underway. So

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Speaker 2: do I have to do one of those things where

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Speaker 2: I don't tell people to score? The US is not playing.

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Speaker 2: The US is in the gold medal game. It's either

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Speaker 2: Canada or Switzerland. Canada's one in three and they're in

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Speaker 2: a They're in a semifinal. Wow, Okay, well anyway, it's

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Speaker 2: a school no goldhorns, and we only do that for

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Speaker 2: the American Games, no goldhorn. But the US has wrapped up, Tarin.

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Speaker 2: Were you here earlier today when that game was on

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Speaker 2: TV in the office? Yes? Did you hear the newsroom,

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Speaker 2: the people in the newsroom, the seven hundred WLW newsroom?

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Speaker 2: Where did any I mean, God help us if something

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Speaker 2: big and breaking happened while the women's hockey game was

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Speaker 2: on it sounded like me watching a UC basketball game

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00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: in there so and then I peeked in and watched

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Speaker 2: some of it with him, and I really didn't feel

476
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Speaker 2: all that welcome away from four o'clock. Mentioned Friday, Miami

477
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: wins beats Oh You in front of a raucous crowd

478
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Speaker 2: at Malette Hall to improve to twenty five and zero.

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00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: And then Travis Steele appeared on College Game Day the

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Speaker 2: next day and made a promise that I wish he didn't.

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Speaker 6: If you finished the season undefeated, win the MAC Championship,

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Speaker 6: will you commit right now in the celebration, in the

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Speaker 6: watch party, dining, the speedo being hoisted up and showing.

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Speaker 2: Off your best dollar that would you do it? Travis,

485
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Speaker 2: would you commit to that right now? Done?

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Speaker 1: It's done done.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people cheering that now, well this, I'm

488
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: sure you know the backstory if you don't. The swimming

489
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: and diving team at Miami has made a habit of

490
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Speaker 2: being in the student section for games and wearing their

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Speaker 2: uniforms which consists of nothing more than a speedo and

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00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: a swim cap to a distract free throw shooters on

493
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Speaker 2: the other team. Travis says he'll do the same. We Travis,

494
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: we're rooting for your team. We don't need that. Maybe

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00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 2: you could talk them out of get Travis Beckham, get

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Speaker 2: them on the show and talk them out of that.

497
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Speaker 2: As somebody like that is. That is the high point

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Speaker 2: of sports for me. Selection Sunday, the Selection Show. Even

499
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Speaker 2: acknowledging I haven't had the Bearcats in it in years,

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Speaker 2: I still that is. Selection Sunday is my favorite day

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Speaker 2: on the sports calendar. We like Travis Steele, we want

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Speaker 2: Miami to make it. We want Miami to advance once

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Speaker 2: they do make it. But this is not something any

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Speaker 2: of us needs to see. Nobody. That isn't going to

505
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Speaker 2: help the ratings of that show. It's not going to

506
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: help Miami basketball. It's not going to help anybody, So

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Speaker 2: Travis on behalf of everybody with good taste, please rescind

508
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: those comments. The Miami story is a great story, and

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Speaker 2: it's not a story that anybody is talking about if

510
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Speaker 2: they are not undefeated. But the Miami story is an

511
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Speaker 2: awesome story for reasons that go beyond the simple fact

512
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: that they haven't lost a game yet. Like, if uc

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Speaker 2: was undefeated at this point in the schedule. Number one,

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Speaker 2: I cannot imagine how obnoxious I would be. Number two,

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Speaker 2: that would be cool as hell. And it would be

516
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Speaker 2: cool as hell if Kentucky was undefeated, or if Xavier

517
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Speaker 2: was undefeated, or if Ohio State was undefeated. And I

518
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: can name pretty much every area school. Miami basketball this

519
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: century has been atrocious. I mean, if you just want

520
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: to go back, let's kick it back to the beginning

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Speaker 2: of the John Cooper era at Miami, all right, let's

522
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Speaker 2: do this. God rest his soul. The last year of

523
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Speaker 2: Charlie Coles before he stepped down as Miami's head coach,

524
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Speaker 2: they went nine to twenty one. John Cooper takes over.

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00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: They follow that up with nine and twenty two In

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Speaker 2: the years since, thirteen wins thirteen wins, thirteen wins, eleven wins.

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Speaker 2: Jack Owens takes over nice Man sixteen wins, fifteen wins,

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Speaker 2: thirteen wins, twelve wins, fourteen wins, twelve wins the first

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Speaker 2: year of Travis Steel, then fifteen wins. Like dormant, Dormant

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Speaker 2: made an NCAA tournament in two thousand and seven because

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Speaker 2: they they won having a ten and six regular season mark.

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Speaker 2: They won the MAC Tournament, got in as a fourteen seed,

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Speaker 2: and were dispatched very quickly at the end of a

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Speaker 2: season that saw them finish with an eighteen and fifteen record.

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Speaker 2: Beyond that, since the turn of the century, since Wally

536
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: Zerbiak left, they have been dormant for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: Not like dormant like seven seasons for you see, like

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00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: for basically twenty five of them to go from, and

539
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: they were good last year. That part should not be ignored.

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00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: Long dormant program. Now on February the sixteenth, hasn't lost

541
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Speaker 2: a game yet. That's what makes this story cool. What

542
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: makes it cool is the Travis Steel redemption. Sports fans

543
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: love redemption stories. Sam Darnold at the Super Bowl right

544
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Speaker 2: redemption story. I are a lot of us who wondered,

545
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Speaker 2: is Travis Steele gonna get a chance to be a

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Speaker 2: head coach again when he was let go e Xavier

547
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Speaker 2: A fair concern. Maybe to a degree, he wondered the

548
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Speaker 2: same thing to make the most of a second chance.

549
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Speaker 2: And it's not like he got the second chance because

550
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: you know, his first chance he did something illegal or

551
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: he did something that would bring embarrassment to Xavier. He

552
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: just didn't win enough games. So we love these redemption stories.

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00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: This is a cool redemption story, and by the way,

554
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: doing it in the backyard of the school that he

555
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: was coaching at before. And then there's the simple fact

556
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Speaker 2: that in this day and age of college basketball, we

557
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: say we love teams where more players come back, where

558
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: a lot of guys return from the previous season. A

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Speaker 2: lot of people, myself included, will say that one thing

560
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: they don't love about college basketball now is it's harder

561
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: to follow and harder to develop an attachment to the

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Speaker 2: players because they're not at any particular school for a

563
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: very long time. And I'm sure there are players on

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00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: Miami's team this year who will be playing for other

565
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: programs next season. That's almost unavoidable. That is no indictment

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Speaker 2: against those players. That's no indictment against Miami University. But

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00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: you have a program this year that is what we

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00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: say we want. Oh, and they're winning. Like I know,

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Speaker 2: the conversation is going to be about do they or

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Speaker 2: don't they get in if they win every game and

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00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: lose a game in the MAC Tournament. But you're getting

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00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: some things here in sports, in college sports, with a

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Speaker 2: college basketball program that we say we absolutely love, And

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to go down the road of going

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Speaker 2: after folks who have tried to discredit Miami University. Like

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00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: we all understand what their schedule is, like, we all

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Speaker 2: get that. I agree with what Chad said, and I

578
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: said this on Friday. I have a hard time believing

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Speaker 2: if they win every game and then you know, stumble

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Speaker 2: in the MAC Tournament, I have a hard time believing

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Speaker 2: the committee is going to go no. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: if you're a college basketball fan, would you rather watch

583
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Speaker 2: Miami or would you rather watch a team that's lost eleven,

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Speaker 2: twelve or thirteen games in a high major and probably

585
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: finished with a losing record in their league. Like at

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Speaker 2: some point, you know, I believe and this is perhaps

587
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Speaker 2: not how the committee looks at things. It's not necessarily

588
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: the most deserving, but just as a as a product

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00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: that fans consume. I think Miami would get numbers relative

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00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: to a team that lost eleven games out of a

591
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: power league. But regardless, like it's easy to say they're

592
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Speaker 2: a great story because they're undefeated. You could say that

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Speaker 2: about any school in the country. It program one awful

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Speaker 2: for a very long time, and now the toast of

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Speaker 2: the country, which is pretty cool. Fourteen away from four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Your phone calls are coming up. In five point three, seven,

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Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. By the way, we made fun

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00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: of Jerome Tang, the coach at Kansas State who just

599
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: rolled his players under the bus after they lost to UC. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's out of a gig. It ain't because he rolled

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Speaker 2: his players under the bus. We'll spend some time on

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Speaker 2: that in the four o'clock hour. Uh, the bet that

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Speaker 2: you should not make when it comes to the Bengals

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00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: in the four o'clock hour as well, and perhaps a

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00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: few minutes on something that was fixed, not because anybody

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00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: actually went and fixed it. That as well on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station sinfimily for the best for them.

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Speaker 2: There's a part of me. If I was a Steelers fan,

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Speaker 2: I'd go, can we do that? But I'm not a

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Speaker 2: Steelers fan, and uh, you know what, I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 2: We got some Bengals stuff to get to in the

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Speaker 2: next hour. Five fifteen thirty, Mike, go ahead, you're on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. Good afternoon, Mike. How are you. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for working on President's Day.

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome, very well. Do you know what I liked?

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Speaker 2: I liked. I like piling up comp days. I'm good

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00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 2: at piling up comp days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're saving a wall for the March madness.

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Speaker 2: I know what you March madness and the spring and summer. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: well why not?

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Speaker 3: You're you are so mich Golden nail a rascal. I

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Speaker 3: wanted to talk to you about the my favorite team

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Speaker 3: in college basketball this year, the Florida Gators, defending national

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Speaker 3: champions with a tremendous coach, Todd Golden, who never gets

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Speaker 3: talked about that.

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Speaker 2: I hear when they when they won, when they won

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Speaker 2: the national championship, nobody talked about Todd Golden.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm talking about this year. Talking about this

629
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Speaker 3: year and they lost the player of the year with

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Speaker 3: Walter Clayton and which is a big deal. But they

631
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: still got a good backcourt with Boogie Plan and Zaviian Lee.

632
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: They got the tremendous front court with Huff and Condon

633
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Speaker 3: and Chinnlu. They got a seven foot Warner, a senior

634
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Speaker 3: coming off the bench to handle hand lockson is his name,

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Speaker 3: I think, And then they got Colivers. And then they

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Speaker 3: got the best six man in the country, which is

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Speaker 3: the freshman CJ. Ingram. I think this team will repeat

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Speaker 3: and win the NCAA Championship.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the thing for me the travels is and you

641
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Speaker 2: didn't necessarily see this to the degree that you had

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Speaker 2: in the previous games against Kentucky. But they've been so

643
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Speaker 2: good on the defensive end. If you look at what

644
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: they did to Alabama, held them i think fifteen points

645
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: below average, held Texas A and L to a thirty

646
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: one percent shooting, held Georgia, a good offensive team to

647
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: less than thirty five percent shooting. They are so good

648
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: on the defensive end. They have only been a handful

649
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: of teams that over the last twenty to twenty five

650
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: years have held back to back Sea. The opponents below

651
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: thirty five percent from the field. Florida has done that

652
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: this year. Again, they weren't awesome on the defensive end,

653
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: but then you had a chance against Kentucky to see

654
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: all the things they could do on the offensive side

655
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: of the floor as well, which, by the way, they

656
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: hung on one hundred on Alabama, scored ninety five on

657
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: South Carolina, ninety eight on the road against a good

658
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt team, scored out well on the road against Oklahoma,

659
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: and scored at pretty much the same sort of proficient

660
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: rate against Kentucky on Saturday.

661
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the knock on them, well, Chad brought up

662
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: the knock on them where they don't shoot three, Well,

663
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: it doesn't appear they need them.

664
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Speaker 2: It doesn't really appear that they Yeah, I don't know

665
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: that it's a it should be a huge knock. I mean,

666
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: people say the same thing about Arizona, but it's it's

667
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: it is like Arizona. Arizona's now lost two straight games.

668
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: Texas Tech going there and winning that was a hell

669
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: of a game on Saturday. I don't know if it's

670
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: they don't shoot three as well, it's they don't shoot

671
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: a lot and so in a game that demands they do,

672
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: can they? And on Saturday for Arizona, the answer was no.

673
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: Could the same thing be the case with Florida?

674
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Speaker 3: And the thing with Florida the real caveat is there

675
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: number one in offensive rebounding the number two in defensive

676
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: rebound I mean, if doesn't get any better than that. Now,

677
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: So how are you going to deal with a team

678
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: like that? That's pretty tough.

679
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to figure out ways to do things

680
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: to them with your offense that nobody else has figured

681
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: out a way to do.

682
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess you've got to shoot a

683
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: lot of three.

684
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: We'll see, I mean, we'll see or you know. To me,

685
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: what's impressive about the best defensive teams is they play

686
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 2: defense without fouling. And granted I haven't seen every minute

687
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: of every Florida game this year, but they played great

688
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: defense without you know, piling up a lot of fouls.

689
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 8: Yep.

690
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: The other thing I never bring up because I know

691
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: it makes people. Man, I've gotten better. It is about

692
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: my Dodgers. But I'm looking at his starting rotation. Well,

693
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: Roberts is already committed to a six man rotation. Hopefully

694
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: everybody stays healthy. They cannot have the disaster that they

695
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: had last year with nineteen different starters. That's not gonna

696
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: happen to get this year. But boy, if you look

697
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 3: at Yamamoto and show hey and Sasaki's back now from

698
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: getting put in the bullpen after his surgery and glass

699
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: now and smell, and then they got mhg In and

700
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: they got Gavin Stone, they got River Ryan, they got

701
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: they got a whole bunch of guys other than that.

702
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: And then you go to the bullpen and they got

703
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 3: Edwin Diaz and Tanner Scott and uh three or four

704
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: other oh well, three or four other guys. I don't

705
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: have their names up front. I don't.

706
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: I just don't.

707
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 3: And then you throw Tucker in the right field. I

708
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: don't know how anybody's gonna beat this team unless they

709
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: have injuries more. I just don't see it.

710
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's what everybody's rubb is right now,

711
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: right like it. It's there's this sense of inevitability. Now, look,

712
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: I mean, random things do happen during the postseason. Really

713
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: good Dodgers team have failed to get to the World Series.

714
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: They came within a few outs of not winning the

715
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Speaker 2: World Series last year. But if if you're to just

716
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: look at like rosters, I mean, compare them to anybody

717
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: else in the National League West, It's impossible to it

718
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: not impossible. It's really hard to imagine anybody but the

719
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: Dodgers winning. And if you were to handicap, you know,

720
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Speaker 2: if if you were to pick a team to win

721
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: the World Series, I don't know why you're picking anybody

722
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: but the LA Dodgers. Obviously that doesn't guarantee anything. There's

723
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: more teams in the postseason than ever before. Upsets do

724
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: happen in a short series. But if you if you

725
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: had to bet an amount of money that mattered to

726
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: you on one team to win the World Series, for

727
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: all the reasons you just outlined and so many more,

728
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: you would you would bet on LA.

729
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: And so many people criticize them, And I know you don't.

730
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if it but seemed like

731
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's criticizing the Dodgers as much

732
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: as it's criticizing the structure of the sport financially with

733
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: you and I have talked about a lot. Are there

734
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: people who resent the Dodgers. Sure, a lot of folks

735
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: just naturally resent the wealthy like, I get that, but

736
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: they're doing Everything they're doing is within the rules. So

737
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: I think there's two things to dislike. They're dislike the

738
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: owner who doesn't try to win at all costs, or

739
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 2: dislike the rules that give the Dodgers and a handful

740
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: of other teams such an advantage. But as you have

741
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: pointed out many times, having the rules tilted towards you

742
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: and giving you an advantage doesn't guarantee success. Just ask

743
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: the New York Mets, Mike, I got a run, man,

744
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

745
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and nasty Yankees. The Dodgers put seventy five to

746
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 3: eighty percent of their revenue back into the players, and

747
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: the Yankees put and that's why they don't win. Thanks Mode.

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00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: You're exactly right, Mike. Thank you very much. There you go.

749
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Speaker 2: There's your dose of Dodger talk for this week. Five

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Speaker 2: point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty. The request of

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00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: the Bengals that I will make should not be that difficult.

752
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: On ESPN fifteen thirty. This is Sports Center.

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00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: Indeed, un Christine Les unemployed.

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Speaker 9: That was the one word response by Tyreek Hill on

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Speaker 9: his Instagram bio to is Sudden released by the Dolphins.

756
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: It was one of a.

757
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 9: Series of moves made by Miami New Miami GM john

758
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 9: Eric Sullivan, saving the team's significant salary cap space. Hill

759
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 9: was a free agent for the first time in his

760
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 9: NFL career. A Dolphins decision now looms regarding quarterback to

761
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Speaker 9: a tongue baaloa I must see college hoops showdownloaded with

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Speaker 9: ramifications for a number one seed for the upcoming NCAA Tournament,

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Speaker 9: Number two Houston at number six Iowa State. The backcourt

764
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Speaker 9: likely the key to this marquee matchup, says ESPN college

765
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Speaker 9: basketball analyst Seth Greenberg.

766
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Speaker 2: Kingston Plumbing's reduse.

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Speaker 10: It was a daynanic Garden and get Blaine make plays,

768
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 10: finish at the ride, shoots the three they played through

769
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Speaker 10: him late in games.

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Speaker 3: We have ahead.

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Speaker 10: I State's got an elite on ball defender and killing

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Speaker 10: times us in both defensive teams that are connected defensively

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Speaker 10: either physical defensive.

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Speaker 2: Wait, they take you out of what you want.

775
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Speaker 10: They were a backcourt pressure virus. State. Could they disrupt

776
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 10: Houston and they can Houston disrupt Iri State.

777
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Speaker 9: Cougar Cyclones nine Eastern ESPN US Women's Olympic hockey team

778
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 9: beat Sweden five zip is Onto the gold medal game.

779
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Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sevan Cohen coming up Tuesday.

780
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Speaker 7: The Cowboys intend to franchise tag George Pickens.

781
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why their best option is trade him away.

782
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Speaker 10: It's unsports fan like six am Eastern right here on

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Speaker 10: ESPN Radio, ESPN two and ESPNU.

784
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Speaker 11: You to last second, saves the Orange and Blue deliver

785
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 11: drama every game.

786
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Speaker 2: And if that won't give you goosebumps, I don't know

787
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Speaker 2: what will.

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Speaker 1: FC Cincinnati Soccer lives here.

789
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Speaker 6: Or damn thing end up Bailey tonight.

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Speaker 1: On ESPN fifteen thirty.

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00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. Shortest offseason of all time.

792
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: Coffee Caraft Champions Club, the Cup, the dr Wednesday for

793
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 2: MC Cincinnati and then they're home on Saturday and you'll

794
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: hear the matches on ESPN fifteen thirty. Excited for that.

795
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: We have SOMEFC Cincinnati stuff. Later on in the week,

796
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: we got to talk about Jerome Tang the coach of

797
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: Kansas State, who the school says they're blowing them out

798
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: for a cause, which I'm gonna blame Jerome Tang here,

799
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: even though I don't think he necessarily did anything wrong.

800
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: The school is letting him go because his record stinks.

801
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: We'll get to all that here in just a bit.

802
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: There's been one simple request for the Bengals when it

803
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: comes to Trey Hendrickson, at least from me, play nice,

804
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: Play nice with Trey Hendrickson's agent, Play nice with Trey Hendrickson,

805
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: and if you do, maybe you could have a productive

806
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: end of the Trey Hendrickson run in Cincinnati. So tomorrow,

807
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: we're about twenty four hours away. Tomorrow at four o'clock

808
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: is when teams can start to apply the franchise tag

809
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: to players, and I've not seen anything indicating strongly either

810
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: way that the Bengals are gonna tag him or not

811
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: tag him. Obviously, the franchise tag is something they've used

812
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: before with players, although seemingly never with the intention of

813
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: executing a trade. I think the suggestion that most of

814
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: us have for the Bengals with Trey is to tag

815
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: him and trade him to see if you can get

816
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: an asset that you could use this coming season for him.

817
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: I do not believe, and maybe I am dead wrong

818
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: about this. I do not believe that, at the end

819
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: of what has been a multi year saga that if

820
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: the Bengals applied the franchise tag to Trey Hendrickson that

821
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: he would instantly sign the franchise tag offer that I

822
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: could be dead wrong about that. Maybe he and his

823
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: agent assess the market. He's coming off an injury, and

824
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: they think that financially, the best he's gonna do is

825
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: a one year deal that's going to pay him roughly

826
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: thirty million bucks. And then the Bengals got a guy

827
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: who's occupying a huge chunk of the payroll going into

828
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: a stretch of time where they need to spend a

829
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: lot of money on a lot of different positions. But

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00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: it just feels like there is close to a zero

831
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: percent chance that he would do that. So if that

832
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: is the case, and a lot of people really close

833
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: to the team who cover the team closely believe the

834
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: odds of Trey Hendrickson instantly signing the deal is close

835
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: to zero, can you figure out a way to work

836
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: with him to arrive at a conclusion that is of

837
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: mutual benefit. I bring this up because NFL Networks Cameron

838
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: Wolf said this weekend that a team source believes it's

839
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: quote unlikely that a Trey and Bengals reunion happens, which

840
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: that's been the consensus all along, But he added, quote

841
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: their relationship has not been great in recent weeks. It

842
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be great forever. It doesn't even have

843
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: to be great. It's just got to be cooperative. It

844
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: just has to be adult. I have negotiated with people,

845
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: and I have been involved in business decisions with people

846
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: that I don't have an awesome personal relationship with. Like,

847
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: if you're in the workforce long enough, invariably that's going

848
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: to happen. But the hope is that everybody can be

849
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: an adult, everybody can be professional, and you figure out

850
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: a way to make it work. I've had interpersonal dealings

851
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: with people that have just gone south. But if that

852
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 2: person and I have goals that we could use each

853
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: other to accomplish, we'll do that. And so you would

854
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: love to believe here that the Cincinnati Bengals and Trey

855
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: Hendrickson's people can understand, Like you can hate the fact

856
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: that the franchise tag exists, it will be interesting down

857
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: the road. You know, the NFL wants eighteen games. Players

858
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: are going to have to sign off on it in

859
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: order to get eighteen games. What will owners have to

860
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: give up? Now? Traditionally, what they've given up are things

861
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: that don't cost him any money, Like, all right, there

862
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: aren't as many OTAs. Guess what teams don't make money

863
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: on OTAs. Or we're not going to have as many

864
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: training camp practices. Guess what teams don't make money on

865
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: training camp practices. The offseason calendar is going to change.

866
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: The NFL is more than willing to give players things

867
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: that don't impact their bottom line. But players hate the

868
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: franchise tag, So would they be willing to kind of

869
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: put their foot down and say, cool, you want us

870
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: to play eighteen games moving forward? You want us to

871
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: play more games for basically the same amount of money,

872
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: although the pool of money the players are getting as

873
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: larger and larger every year because league revenues only go up. Cool,

874
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: then let's talk about the franchise tag and let's have

875
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: it go away. But the reality is, right now, it exists,

876
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: and you can resent the team for using it on you,

877
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, the Bengals are

878
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: just using a tool that is at their disposal. Can

879
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: there not be a way for both sides to mutually

880
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: coexist and work with each other on a very temporary

881
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: basis with the goal of the Bengals getting something for

882
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 2: a Trey and Trey finding a deal that makes him

883
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: happy somewhere else, tagging him and trading him. If the

884
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: answers are no, that may solely be a reflection of

885
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: one side or the other. But if it's a reflection

886
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: of the Bengals, then that's a pretty damning indictment against

887
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: the organization. You can't figure out a way to play

888
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: nice with somebody for a couple of weeks so that

889
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 2: you can find a team interested and they can figure

890
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: out a deal that works for them, We'll see. I

891
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: believe that this is the sort of thing that by

892
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: the end of the off season, this is going to

893
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: be microscopic in relation to a lot of other things

894
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: that happen this offseason. They have a lot of work

895
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: to do in free agency. They have an offense that

896
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: they could touch in the most minuscule way, but a

897
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: defense that needs pretty close to an overhaul. They've got

898
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: contract extensions to get done in the least distracting way

899
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: possible with dudes like Dax Hill and DJ Turner and

900
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: maybe Chase Brown. They've got a lot of different areas

901
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: to address in free agency. They've got a draft that

902
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: they've got a nail this year. They have to find

903
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: players who can help them this season. By the time

904
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: we get to August, Ideally, Trey Hendrickson is playing somewhere else.

905
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: He's happy somewhere else. The Bengals and trade relationship has

906
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: come to an end, and maybe the guy they got

907
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: for him in a trade via the draft or in

908
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 2: the draft via trade. I should say, maybe that guy

909
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: ends up making a little bit of an impact. But

910
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: right now, it's like, you know, the first item the

911
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: franchise tag window opens. Can the Bengals use it? Can

912
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson play nice for a very

913
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: short amount of time? Like sometimes when you go through

914
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: a divorce, you have to work with the other party

915
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: in an effort to make the separation as amicable as

916
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: financially nondisruptive as possible, in a way that involves the

917
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: least amount of hurt feelings, in a way that you

918
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: know involves taking care of your kids. Like this is

919
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: how adults operate. Adults don't have to like each other,

920
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: but sometimes adults have to work with each other. Can

921
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 2: the adults here, can the people who run the Bengals

922
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: and Trey Hendrickson's representation figure out a way to work

923
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: with each other like big kids. If the answer is yes,

924
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: there's no reason why something can't be done that benefits

925
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 2: both sides. If the answer is no, like really and

926
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: more from a Bengals perspective, because I care more about

927
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 2: the Bengals than Trey Hendrickson's agent. But have things gotten

928
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: so bad that these two sides for a couple of

929
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: weeks can't figure out a way to cooperate in an

930
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: effort to give Trey a good deal and get the

931
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 2: Bengals something that helps them win without Trey moving forward?

932
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: I would love to think the answer is yes, we'll

933
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: see five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty is

934
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: our phone number. By the way, uh, I got this

935
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: email and I did not I copied the text of

936
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: the email and didn't jot down who I got it from.

937
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: It's from an online sports book that outlines it's from

938
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: port Now. Bookies dot Com has put together odds for

939
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: where Trey Hendrickson will play in twenty twenty six, and

940
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: the Bengals are the favorite. Maybe not the overwhelming favorite,

941
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: but they are the favorite at plus two seventy five,

942
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: followed by the Baltimore Ravens at plus four fifty, Chicago

943
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: at plus six hundred, Washington plus six fifty, Detroit plus

944
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: eight hundred, and the field meaning any other team besides

945
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: those five at plus five hundred. That's at bookies dot

946
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,959
Speaker 2: com they have the Bengals as the favorite. I would

947
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: not bet on the Bengals being the team that Tray

948
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 2: Hendrickson plays for. In twenty twenty six at Mulager on Twitter,

949
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: Jerome Tang, Jerome Tang did nothing wrong. He just did

950
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: something stupid.

951
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 5: I'll explain next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

952
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center. Around forty percent

953
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 4: of cancers are preventable. Lifestyle changes and screenings can make

954
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 4: a difference. Call five one three five eighty five UCCC

955
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 4: northbound seventy five at Paddock Road. The left lane blocked

956
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 4: off from a disabled vehicle. About a twenty minute to

957
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 4: lay right now back from Mitchell northbound Taylor Mill Road.

958
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: It's an accident approaching Wayman's Branch Road. Northbound seventy one.

959
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 4: Disabled bus on the right shoulder approaching Martin Luther King Drive.

960
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 4: I'm at ezelic with traffic.

961
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: This report is sponsored. Why because it's more than five

962
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 2: months away. I cannot wait to broadcast from training camp

963
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: again this year, maybe because I'm watching all the footage

964
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: of the people broadcasting from Goodyear from spring training, which

965
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: that would be cool. That would be twenty one minutes

966
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: after four o'clock. Last week, you see went to Manhattan,

967
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: Kansas and just absolutely flombaid That's right, I went with

968
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 2: Flombaide just absolutely crushed Kansas State. And if you watch

969
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: the game, you saw a lot of empty seats, you hurt,

970
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: a lot of booing, you saw a lot of students

971
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: wearing bags on their heads, and you saw a pretty

972
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: impressive performance by the Bearcats. After that game, Jerome Tang

973
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: went viral, the coach of Kansas State went viral with

974
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 2: these postgame comments.

975
00:53:53,800 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 7: I'm gonna honor Christ like I always do, blessed to

976
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 7: do this, but uh, this was embarrassing. These dudes do

977
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 7: not deserve to wear this uniform. There will be very

978
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 7: few of them in it next year. Like I'm embarrassed

979
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 7: for the university. I'm embarrassed for our fans, our students section.

980
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: You know it is.

981
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 7: It is just ridiculous. We got practice at six am

982
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 7: tomorrow morning, and uh uh and and we will we

983
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 7: will get this thing right I I I have no

984
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 7: answer and the words so you got you got two questions.

985
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 7: So whoever one asks two questions, I will answer them

986
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 7: to the best of my ability right now. But right now,

987
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 7: like I'm like pissed.

988
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: So that's Jerome Tang. After Cincinnati beat Kansas last week

989
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: on Wednesday night, a ninety one to sixty two barricat

990
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: victory last night, it was re part of the Kansas

991
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: State informed Jerome Tang that they are firing him for cause.

992
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: So per his contract, he's owed more than eighteen and

993
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: a half million dollars. The basis for the cause firing

994
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: is language in his contract that references any activity that

995
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: quote brings public disrepute, embarrassment, and ridicule to Kansas State.

996
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: And apparently those are the comments that triggered this. Now,

997
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 2: Jerome Tang says, I'm fighting for my money. Told ESPN quote,

998
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm deeply disappointed with the university's decision and strongly disagree

999
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: with the characterization of my termination. I've always acted with

1000
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: integrity and faithfully fulfilled my responsibilities as head coach the

1001
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: Wildcats this season. After losing again on Saturday to Houston

1002
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: are ten and fifteen, and they are one and eleven

1003
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: in conference play. The reason he got fired was ten

1004
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: and fifteen and won an eleven in conference play. That's

1005
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: the main reason I'd be willing to bet that if

1006
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: that loss on Wednesday was Kansas State's, let's say it

1007
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: was their second conference loss and had dropped their record

1008
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: to I don't know, nineteen and five, I'm gonna guess

1009
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: that even had he said the exact same thing about

1010
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,479
Speaker 2: his players and his team, my guess is Jerome teng

1011
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: would be the head coach at Kansas State today. The

1012
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: reason he was let go wasn't the postgame comments. The

1013
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: reason he was let go is the fact that the

1014
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: team stinks. Because the team stinks, fans have apparently stopped

1015
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: going to games, and you got students wearing paper bags

1016
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: on their heads two games, which that in itself brings,

1017
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: you might argue, more embarrassment to the school and to

1018
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: the program than the postgame comments by the head coach.

1019
00:56:55,080 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 2: What Jerome Tang said was not necessarily impoor taste. I'm

1020
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 2: not sure that what Jerome Tang said brought any embarrassment

1021
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: to the school. There have been lots of coaches who

1022
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 2: have thrown their players under the bus, and you might

1023
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: argue it's unbecoming to do so. But there's lots of coaches,

1024
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: including legendary coaches, coaches who are in their schools Hall

1025
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: of Fame, coaches who are in the National Basketball Hall

1026
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: of Fame, who have thrown their players under the bus.

1027
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: And so you might argue, as many have, that Jerome

1028
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: Tang did nothing wrong. I watched it was Get Up

1029
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: this morning, Seth Greenberg argue that Jerome Tang did nothing wrong,

1030
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: and I agree what he did though was stupid because

1031
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: at that point, if you're Jerome Tang, look around you.

1032
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: The stands are empty. Some of the students who are

1033
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: there have bags over their heads. Your team is at

1034
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: that point when they lost to UC one in ten

1035
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: in conference play, your seat has been hot going into

1036
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: the season. I mean, it doesn't take a genius to

1037
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 2: understand that the strong likelihood at that point is you're

1038
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: gonna get let go, maybe not during the season, but

1039
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: certainly after. At that point, you have one responsibility, one

1040
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: responsibility to yourself, but one responsibility protect that eighteen and

1041
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: a half mil. Do not give them any reason to

1042
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: take that money away. Understand they may let you go understand,

1043
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: coaches get let go all the time for losing, but

1044
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: when they get let go for losing, they get that

1045
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: money that's guaranteed to them. At that point, you go

1046
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: into Jerome Tang mode. Screw these players, screw anything else.

1047
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure that I get the money that

1048
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: I'm contractually owed once they let me go. And so,

1049
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: like what he said, you could laugh at it. You

1050
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: could say it's unbecoming of a coach to throw his

1051
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: players under the bus. And you could say, well, you know,

1052
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: what he did in the grand scheme of things might

1053
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: have been unbecoming, but it's not necessarily wrong. A lot

1054
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: of coaches have thrown their players under the bus. But

1055
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: at that point, you understand they're gonna fire you no

1056
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: matter what once the school has made that decision. And

1057
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: if you're Jerome Tang, you have to be smart enough

1058
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: to understand they may make that decision. You also understand

1059
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna look for a way to not pay me

1060
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: my money, which means you gotta be smart enough to

1061
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: understand I can't do anything anything that makes them puts

1062
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: them in a position where they could legally take away

1063
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: my money. So that postgame press conference is nothing other

1064
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: than man, Cincinnati played great. Boy. That team has a

1065
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: chance to be a problem moving forward. And you know what,

1066
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: we're appreciative of the fans that came out. Wish my

1067
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: players would have played better. I'll deal with whatever frustrations

1068
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: I feel toward them with them, Like what he did

1069
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: is not wrong. What he did is stupid, because maybe

1070
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: he's still the head coach today without saying what he

1071
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: sat said, And maybe he's the head coach today and

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01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: they let him go in four or five weeks. But

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01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: at that point, you have to understand the possibility of

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01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: being let go is not remote, it's pretty significant. Maybe

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01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: it's even inevitable. You can't do anything like at that

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: point anything, it's it becomes objective number one, more than

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01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: getting your team ready to play. I am not gonna

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01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: let them fire me for a cause, because you know

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01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: they're looking for something anything. I'm not gonna say anything stupid.

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01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna limit my public appearances. I'm not gonna get

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01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: kicked out of games. I'm not gonna yell at the officials.

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01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm barely gonna talk to my players. So like we

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01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: all saw that last night, We're like, yeah, the dude

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01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: got let go because of his comments after the UC game.

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01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, that's very flimsy, and chances are this

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01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: doesn't end up in court. We'll talk with our legal expert,

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01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: attorney Steward W. Penrose from Manila Law Group tomorrow and

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01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: we'll get his thoughts on this. There is a very

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01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: good chance this doesn't ever see a courtroom and they

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01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: have a settlement. But if you're in that position, you

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: could apply this to regular jobs. If you're in a

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Speaker 2: position where it feels like, you know what, I might

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01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: not be let go, but there's something owed to you

1094
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: go into protection mode. Protect your eighteen and a half

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01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: million dollars. If you're a Jerome Tang, they're gonna let

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01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 2: me go. Cool, that's fine, they can do that. Ain't

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01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: gonna touch my money. Ain't gonna touch the money that

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01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm owed. At that point, you go into protection mode.

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01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: Jerome Tang should have been thinking about only Jerome Tang

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday. So what he did, no, it's not wrong.

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01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 2: What he did, though, is shortsighted and stupid. And while

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna walk away with no money

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01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: from Kansas State, it may have cost him a significant

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01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: amount of that eighteen and a half million bucks. If

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Speaker 2: you are going to be let go at that point,

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01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: protect what you got coming to you, don't jeopardize it.

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Speaker 2: He did, three seven, fifteen thirty. We'll get you in

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Speaker 2: if you want to chime in on that. Five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 2: through their first full squad workout today in Goodyear, inching

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Speaker 2: closer to the Cactus League opener on Sunday, the Reds

1130
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 2: and Guardians in Goodyear. First pitch will be at three ten.

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Speaker 2: Can I can I give a quick unsolicited plug. I

1132
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: think the people who cover teams in this town are

1133
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: really good. I think we're really lucky here in this

1134
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: day and age of you know, media not throwing the

1135
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: resources that they need to at covering sports. I think

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01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: I certainly wish we had more people covering the teams,

1137
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: because more content is good for fans. But I think

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01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: we're in a good space here when it comes to,

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01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: you know, the quality of the coverage we get of

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01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: local sports teams. And so I say this, and I

1141
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: you know, this isn't one of those dudes where one

1142
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: of those things where if you're like, hey man, I

1143
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: really like pie, well you hate cake, Like, That's not

1144
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: what this is. But Charlie Goldsmith, who appears pretty frequently

1145
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: with Tony and Austin on since he three sixty has

1146
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: a newsletter that he publishes, Charlie's Chalkboard. Charlie Goldsmith is

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01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: in Goodyear and uh one, two, three, four, five, six

1148
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: seven he has done since Saturday morning, he has published

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01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: nine entries, like nine full length like pieces on the Reds. Again,

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01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: that's no knock on anybody else. It's no knock on

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01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,919
Speaker 2: Pat Brennan and Gordon Wentmeyer, c Trent Rosecrans or Mark

1152
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: Sheldon or anybody else who covers that. They're all awesome.

1153
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: We're very, very lucky. But the amount of content andike

1154
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: quality content that Charlie is cranking out has been astounding.

1155
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: I get him sent to my inbox, and I feel

1156
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: like since he got to Goodyear, I mean he just

1157
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: at four h five today published another one and it's

1158
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: about a Uhaneo Suarez and Tyler Callahan and there's something

1159
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: on Chase Burns in there. That on top of the

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01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: one that he published at three point thirty, that on

1161
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 2: top of the one that got published at eleven fifty seven.

1162
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: Charlie is just a machine, so good for him. Subscribe

1163
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: to his newsletter. By the way, it's absolutely free, so

1164
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: you're getting like free Reds cover. Charlie does not know

1165
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: we're doing this. Charlie belongs to Tony and Austin like

1166
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: we When that show took off, it was like they

1167
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: need folks who are theirs, and Charlie is theirs. And

1168
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: that's maybe a little bit too inside baseball for anybody

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01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: to really care. But the amount of like stuff he

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01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: is banging out in Goodyear is insane, and so reward

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01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 2: his work by subscribing to it. Twenty two from five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: What else do we have? College basketball? Latest AP Top

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01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: twenty five Men's Paul Miami is twenty second. The RedHawks

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01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: take on UMass in Amherst tomorrow. Louisville up to twenty first.

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01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: Kentucky falls out of the AP Top twenty five. The

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01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: Mark Pope Show is tonight at six on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: The NKU Coaches Show will be tonight at seven on

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01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, and the Richard Patino Radio Show will

1179
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: be tonight at seven o'clock on fifty five KRC. And

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01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: the NFL, the Miami Dolphins are hitting the reset button.

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01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: They have released wide receiver Tyreek Hill and pass rusher

1182
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb in addition to other players. The Olympics. US

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01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: women's hockey team advances to the gold medal game with

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01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 2: a five nothing victory over Sweden. The US will play

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Speaker 2: either Canada or Switzerland. Now I've been lied to because

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01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: everything that I have seen has said the second game,

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Speaker 2: the second semi final game between Canada and Switzerland, is

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01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 2: going to be on the USA network. And so I

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01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 2: had the USA Network on and they were showing pairs

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Speaker 2: figure skating, and then I looked at the guide and

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01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: it said, well, the game's going to be shown at

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01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: four fifteen, even though the game started at three ten,

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01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: And so I kept the USA Network on and we're

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01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 2: watching this looks like ski jumping, snowboard jumping. I don't

1195
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: know what it is, but it ain't hockey. Nonetheless, the

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Speaker 2: game is happening right now, and if you care, Canada

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01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: has a two to nothing lead as that game moves

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Speaker 2: to the third period, So a US versus Canada gold

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Speaker 2: medal tilt seems likely. NBC's Olympic coverage, for the most part,

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01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: I think has been pretty good. NBA's NBC's NBA All

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Speaker 2: Star Game coverage yesterday was I thought, also pretty good.

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01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: It's remarkable how an event can transform when the people

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Speaker 2: competing in it actually care. So the NBA, and we

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01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 2: don't do a lot of NBA here, but the NBA

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01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: is a lot of who's tanking as a major problem

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01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: in that sport. The All Star Game for the last

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: couple of decades has degenerated into a joke. Now are

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: a lot of folks my age who will love to

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01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: tell you how in the eighties, you know, players treated

1210
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 2: the All Star Game like it was a regular season game.

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01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 2: No they didn't. Now they would over the last three

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01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,440
Speaker 2: or four minutes of it, but there was a baseline

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01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: level of competitiveness that made it watchable. That has not

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01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 2: been the case for years. Last night, yesterday afternoon, the

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Speaker 2: new format, two US teams and a World team playing

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: in a round robin. That was the players cared. And

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01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: so you know, one of the talking points has been, like,

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01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: what's Adam Silver gonna do? What's the league gonna do

1219
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: to fix the All Star Game? Is the time to

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01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 2: just scrap it? And so it was better yesterday. And

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch the entire event, but I watched enough

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Speaker 2: of it. I didn't really pay much attention to Saturday,

1223
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 2: just doing other stuff. And so now like Adam Silver,

1224
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 2: is getting credit the NBA commissioner who's got this huge

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Speaker 2: tanking issue on his desk. He's being credited with. Well,

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: maybe the All Star Game has been fixed. The All

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 2: Star Game under the old format would have been fixed

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01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 2: had the players cared enough to actually try to play.

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01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: If the players they if it matters to the players,

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01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 2: the event will be good no matter what the format is.

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01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 2: That's what happened yesterday. Had something else I was going

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01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 2: to get to as well that was Cincinnati sports related

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: and not so much having anything to do with that,

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01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: and I completely and totally forgot what it was on

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01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 2: the Bearcats, and we talked about this a little bit

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01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: at the top of the show. Tony Pike and I

1237
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: have had fun with the idea that the Bearcats have

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01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: played themselves into bubble talk. And I could assure you

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01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: tomorrow Tony I believe is back for since he three

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01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: to sixty he and Austin were off today for President's Day,

1241
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 2: that he is going to do a hard sell job

1242
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: on the Bearcats having a chance here as the final

1243
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: five games of the season unfold, and you know, let's

1244
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: be honest, if they were to go to Lawrence Kanses

1245
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: and win and then go to lobbing Texas and beat

1246
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. You know that the conversation will change a

1247
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 2: little bit. Are they good enough to do that? Chances

1248
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 2: are the answer is no, based on the way they've

1249
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 2: played the first twenty six games of the season. But

1250
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 2: yesterday they were down by five points with a minute

1251
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 2: and a half to go, and you see, to that point,

1252
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 2: for much of the afternoon had outplayed Utah. I thought

1253
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 2: at halftime they had outplayed Utah. They were up by

1254
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: three points. They had done some good things offensively, they

1255
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: were up by three points. They were dominating in the paint,

1256
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: at least offensively, and they were up by three points.

1257
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 2: They had only turned the ball over two times against

1258
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: a one win team in conference play. They were up

1259
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: three points. Felt like they had left the door open

1260
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 2: for Utah. And then, primarily because of their work on

1261
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: the offensive glass and a handful of bad UC possessions,

1262
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: Utah takes the lead and it's sixty five sixty with

1263
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: a minute and a half to go. And had they

1264
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 2: lost that game, which frankly had felt like they were

1265
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 2: going to, there would have been unending shade thrown at

1266
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 2: Wes Miller, and I think he would have been the

1267
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: first to admit he would have deserved it. Another loss,

1268
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 2: this one to a bad team in your own building.

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,919
Speaker 2: Whatever goodwill had been built up by winning the previous

1270
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: two games the way they did extinguished by losing to Utah,

1271
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: Utah's awful this season. If that would have been the

1272
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 2: case in the aftermath of a loss, at least do

1273
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: this with a win. When wes Miller got emotional after

1274
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: the game against West Virginia, when it sounded like he

1275
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 2: was gonna cry, that sort of thing, it was very

1276
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: reasonable at that point to assume, or at least wonder,

1277
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: is this now really gonna unravel? Are we going to

1278
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 2: see player effort get compromised? Are we going to see

1279
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: a team that starts to fracture. Are we going to

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Speaker 2: see a team that gives even fans even more under

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Speaker 2: boo or give people even more reason to you know,

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Speaker 2: check out a UC basketball and get angry about Wes Miller.

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Speaker 2: And to their credit, it's probably not enough to save

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Speaker 2: the season, might not be enough to save the coach's job.

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Speaker 2: What they've put on the floor over the last three

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Speaker 2: games has been representative of a team not fracturing, not

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Speaker 2: falling apart. Not collectively bailing on the season. And again, man,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to go overboard and crediting anybody for that.

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Speaker 2: I said many times, I don't give you a lot

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Speaker 2: of credit for playing hard. That's sort of assumed, especially

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Speaker 2: with this program. But if the takeaway after a week

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Speaker 2: ago this past Thursday was that this is about to

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Speaker 2: really unravel, it hasn't and that is not insignificant. It's

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Speaker 2: quarter to five. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 5: Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from.

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Speaker 4: The UC Health Trap Center. Around forty percent of cancers

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Speaker 4: The disabled metro bus now cleared away approaching Martin Luther

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by Michigan Look damn good on

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Speaker 2: Saturday beating UCLA just mauled him in the second half

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Speaker 2: of that game was a four point game at half.

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Speaker 2: And it's hard to fly under the radar when you've

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Speaker 2: been ranked in the top five for most of the season.

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Speaker 2: But I've got a lot of attention paid to the

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Speaker 2: Big twelve teams. Yukon gets a lot of East Coast love.

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Speaker 2: By the way, had Dan Hurley ripping on Yukon fans

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Speaker 2: for not showing up to their game against Georgetown over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. Which know if I really care to get

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Speaker 2: into that, but I think there's my pick right now, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: If we have to make it about one, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: We'll see ten away from five o'clock. Anything you may

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Speaker 2: have missed on this show, remember you could listen to

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Speaker 2: it on the iHeartRadio app. You could also go to

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Speaker 2: my page at ESPN fifteen thirty dot com, including our

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Speaker 2: chat last week with Mike Decursia the Sporting News on

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Speaker 2: college basketball. Tomorrow, our guy, Paul Danner Junior is going

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Speaker 2: to be with us in studio to go over a

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Speaker 2: myriad of Bengals issues. He'll be with us in the

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Speaker 2: hour leading up to the run up or in the

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Speaker 2: hour that will be the run up. To the franchise

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Speaker 2: tag window opening at four o'clock tomorrow. Also at four

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Speaker 2: o'clock tomorrow, we have Cincinnati Red's internet villain Derek Cardy

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Speaker 2: from ESPN, who wrote the piece late last week where

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Speaker 2: he talked about how the Reds are going to be

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Speaker 2: close to a bottom five starting staff and then issued

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Speaker 2: a mia kulpa on Twitter alleging that he read the

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Speaker 2: data wrong. So Derek is going to join us at

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Speaker 2: four to five tomorrow. We better hope that the first

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Speaker 2: assessment is inaccurate. It remains the single best thing the Reds, though,

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Speaker 2: did this offseason. There's a lot of optimism there always is,

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Speaker 2: Like there have been years where the Reds you knew

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Speaker 2: were gonna lose ninety games, and the dispatches from goodyear

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Speaker 2: were still overwhelmingly positive. That's just a byproduct of spring training.

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Speaker 2: But I think the best thing about the Reds this

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Speaker 2: offseason they go into this year. Terry Francona talks about

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Speaker 2: how it's time, right, It's time, and I think most

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Speaker 2: of us would agree. Now we could argue about how

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Speaker 2: well equipped they are for them to deliver on this,

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Speaker 2: but I think most of us would agree that after

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Speaker 2: you make the postseason one year, it's time to do better.

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Speaker 2: It's time for better results, it's time to compete for

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Speaker 2: a championship. Time to do more than just win eighty

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Speaker 2: three games and sneak in, you know, using getting some

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Speaker 2: help in Game one sixty two. But what best equips

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Speaker 2: them to do that is their starting staff. And the

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Speaker 2: very best thing they did this offseason is not trade

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Speaker 2: any of those starting pitchers. You know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I believe that the Reds weren't entirely opening to

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Speaker 2: moving on from Hunter Green, but that was talked about

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Speaker 2: a lot when the offseason started, and like I get it,

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Speaker 2: the dude didn't pitch grade in the postseason. There was

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Speaker 2: frustration with you know, the pace at which he came

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Speaker 2: back from injury during the season last year. But trading

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green never made a ton of sense. Never made

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Speaker 2: a ton of sense from the standpoint of trading away

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Speaker 2: your staff ace, never made a ton of sense, from

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Speaker 2: the standpoint of trading away U a cost control asset,

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Speaker 2: like just simply never made any sense. But then you

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Speaker 2: kind of look beyond that. You might have argued that

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Speaker 2: it would have their best path to getting a guy

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Speaker 2: who could help the lineup would have been to trading

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Speaker 2: away one of the other pitchers. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: it felt like an inevitability that the Reds were going

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Speaker 2: to trade a starting pitcher, but it certainly felt like

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Speaker 2: a very very distinct possibility that to get what they wanted,

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Speaker 2: to get what we could argue they needed, that they

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Speaker 2: were going to have to trade from their surplus. Now,

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Speaker 2: surplus tells me you have too much. I always hear

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Speaker 2: how you can never have enough. You can never have

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Speaker 2: too much starting pitching. And by the way, their depth

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01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: got tested toward the end of the season last year,

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Speaker 2: their depth at the middle of the season was such

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Speaker 2: that they went ahead and traded for a starting pitcher

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Speaker 2: at the deadline. But they never traded away a starting

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Speaker 2: pitcher this offseason. That remains the single most important development

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Speaker 2: of this off season, especially when you looked at the

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Speaker 2: bats that were available via trade. Do you really want

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Speaker 2: Louise Robert? And time may prove that indeed they did.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's hard to argue that they really should

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Speaker 2: have wanted Louise Robert where you looked at some of

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Speaker 2: the possibilities available on free agency. It's what always drove

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Speaker 2: the Kyle Schwerber conversation for me more than anything else, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, this weekend at Phillies Camp, Bryce Harper

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Speaker 2: said he thought Kyle was coming to Cincinnati, called him

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Speaker 2: Kyle Liker on a first name basis. But what drove

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Speaker 2: the Kyle Schwerber conversation was, here's a dude who is

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Speaker 2: the best at what you're not good at, which is

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Speaker 2: hitting the long ball, and if you acquire him in

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Speaker 2: free agency, you don't have to give up anything to

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Speaker 2: get him. Now, Euhenio Suarez is a pretty good consolation prize,

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Speaker 2: But what is best about getting a Euhenio Suarez is

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Speaker 2: what you had to give up to get him. Isn't

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Speaker 2: a starting pitcher, isn't a player? Just had to pay

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Speaker 2: him a bunch of money and it ain't my money

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Speaker 2: and it ain't yours. So what do we care about that?

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Speaker 2: It would have been one thing to acquire a Uheneosuarez.

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Speaker 2: It's something else entirely to acquire a Uhenio Suarez and

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Speaker 2: have to give up something of immense value to get him.

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01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: And their starting pictures provide individually and obviously collectively immense value.

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Speaker 2: Among all the different things we talked about, the Reds

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Speaker 2: doing this offseason one that at times seemed least likely

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Speaker 2: was get a bat for nothing more than money, not

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Speaker 2: trading away a starting pitcher. They didn't. That's win. The

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Speaker 2: strength of the team is still largely intact. The strength

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Speaker 2: of the team still stands to be the biggest reason

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Speaker 2: why this team wins if they do win, and they've

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Speaker 2: never been better equipped to handle a picture getting injured,

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Speaker 2: handle attrition, handle something testing their depth. That might not

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Speaker 2: have been the case had they traded away a starting picture.

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Speaker 2: They also didn't do something as short sighted and as

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Speaker 2: maybe emotional as trading away an ace picture whose cost

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Speaker 2: controlled for the rest of the decade. Like I know,

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Speaker 2: there was frustration with Hunter Green inside the clubhouse last year,

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Speaker 2: and you might understand why. But they didn't overreact to that.

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Speaker 2: They didn't make an emotional decision. They decided to keep

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green in the fold and perhaps work with him

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Speaker 2: moving forward when it comes to how he handles injury,

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Speaker 2: which hopefully this year he doesn't have any of. At

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Speaker 11: Rights A shot back to last second saves the Orange

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Speaker 11: and Blue deliver drama every game.

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Speaker 2: And if that won't give you goosebumps, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what will.

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Speaker 1: FC Cincinnati Soccer lives here.

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Speaker 2: Bayard pend Up Bailey tonight on ESPN. Yeah, nice to

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Speaker 2: hear Tommy G's voice. There you go, four after five,

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Moagger, Thanks for listening. Hopefully you're having

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Speaker 2: an awesome presidency. Hopefully a great three day weekend, and

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Speaker 2: no matter what you're doing, thanks for hanging out with us.

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Speaker 2: Mark Pope show coming up as soon as we're done.

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Speaker 2: At six o'clock. Kentucky lost at Florida the aforementioned Florida

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Speaker 2: Gators on Saturday. That is so much more. Excuse me

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Speaker 2: with the head coach of the Wildcats at six pm.

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01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 2: Was a fun college basketball weekend. That Arizona Texas Tech

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01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: game was absolutely terrific. Also, Ohio State played Virginia in

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Speaker 2: it at a Fox game that took place in Nashville.

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01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 2: Now we don't get in this day and age anymore

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01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 2: that many non conference games high major non Conference games.

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Speaker 2: The lower part of the arena was pretty filled with

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Speaker 2: Virginia fans. I did not detect that there were a

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Speaker 2: ton of Ohio State fans there. The upper part of

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01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: the arena looked just barren. Now I get these these

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01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 2: games happened, and they happened, happened when it did and

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01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: where it did because of nil There's not a better

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01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 2: place for Virginia and Ohio State to play. And I

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01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,799
Speaker 2: love Nashville. That a better place for Virginia and Ohio

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Speaker 2: State to play than Nashville. Maybe I'm biased because that

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Speaker 2: basketball arena for me just brings back such awful memories.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. You workommand somewhere. That's

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Speaker 2: more reasonable for fans to get playing Cincinnati, right, Oh no?

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Speaker 2: From Charlotteville to Nashville. As how long from Columbus? Like

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Speaker 2: that's Columbus to Nashville's five and a half four from here?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, get a better place to play. I like that.

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Speaker 2: I love Nashville. Nashville is awesome. I just don't know

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Speaker 2: that that is for Virginia and Ohio State. But hell,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. If you gave me a trip to Nashville,

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Speaker 2: maybe I would I change my tune the college basketball

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. It was really cool. Was on Friday night.

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Speaker 2: I know people who have probably never watched a Miami

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01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 2: University basketball game, have maybe never been on Miami's campus,

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Speaker 2: who kind of revolved their entire Friday night around Miami

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Speaker 2: versus Ohio University. The atmosphere for that game looked incredible.

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Speaker 2: And what has been so fun about this? And I

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Speaker 2: say this from the perspective of someone who roots for

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Speaker 2: the UC Bearcats and the Dayton Flyers, but it is

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Speaker 2: fun to watch that campus come alive. It's fun to

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01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: watch that alumni base come alive. It's fun to watch

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Speaker 2: Miami enjoy this moment. I don't know if they're going

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01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 2: to finish the season on beaten. I certainly believe if

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01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: you look at every individual game, and I don't know

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01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: the betting lines for Miami and U mass have come

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Speaker 2: out and yet I will give this a look here momentarily,

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01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 2: but they should win. Keyword as should. If you look

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01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: at those games, Miami's at three and a half point

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01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 2: favorite tomorrow, it looks like they're going to be favored

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01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: in every game the rest of the season. That doesn't

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01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: mean that They're not gonna stub their toe. They may

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01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 2: against UMass tomorrow. The Mini men played them really tough

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Speaker 2: here at Oxford at Mallett Hall a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: But you know, as easy as it is to make

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01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: the conversation solely about the tournament, solely about their potential

1490
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 2: exclusion if they do win every game and then lose

1491
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: in the MAC Tournament, and I'm on record for what

1492
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: it's worth, I do not believe that if they finish

1493
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 2: the regular season undefeated that the committee is going to

1494
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: keep them out. As easy as it is, as natural

1495
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: as it is to get caught up in all those

1496
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 2: conversations about the tournament, getting in, not getting in, it's

1497
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 2: it's gotta be awesome to simply enjoy this moment. It's

1498
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 2: not apples to apples, because when UC made the College

1499
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: Football Playoff in twenty twenty one, they had something that

1500
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: Miami this year doesn't have. They have a signature win

1501
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 2: over a powerhouse. UC beat Notre Dame that season. Notre

1502
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 2: Dame didn't lose another game the rest of the year.

1503
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 2: That was a terrific Notre Dame team that was just

1504
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in of the College Football Playoff

1505
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: back when it was only four teams. But like I

1506
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: remember during that season, as as awesome as it was,

1507
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 2: I remember on this show and also like off air,

1508
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: having to beg UC fans like, dude, enjoy this now

1509
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 2: again not apples to apples. Was a little easy at

1510
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: that point with football to get caught up in stuff

1511
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 2: like style points, are they winning by enough? But like

1512
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: you would have folks and this isn't the majority, but

1513
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 2: I knew people who you know that year they had

1514
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: a game against Navy that they didn't blow out the midshipman,

1515
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: and they had a game against Tulane that was a

1516
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: little bit closer than I think a lot of people

1517
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 2: thought it was going to be, and they won the game,

1518
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 2: and you would find people who are like, hey, you

1519
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 2: know what, this is kind of like a loss, and

1520
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, they're winning every game like this, this

1521
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 2: is the season you have been waiting for. Yes, it's

1522
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 2: all about if they make the playoff, but in real time,

1523
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: if you can't enjoy a team that's winning every single game,

1524
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 2: what's the point of being a fan. I would say

1525
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: something similar about Miami. I think this is the biggest

1526
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 2: story in the sport right now. So it's it's it's

1527
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 2: hard to do. But the biggest story in the sport, yes,

1528
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 2: is is Miami going to go undefeated? And will they

1529
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: get in if they don't win the MAC Tournament? But

1530
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: in real time, so much fun to watch people enjoy

1531
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 2: Friday night. Mentioned this before as out to dinner with

1532
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,600
Speaker 2: a buddy of mine on Friday and at a not

1533
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 2: a play that you would categorize as a sports bar,

1534
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 2: and yet everybody there come nine o'clock focused on a

1535
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: Friday night college basketball game between Miami University and Ohio University,

1536
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 2: and the RedHawks won handily. And it's just in the

1537
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: middle of what has been, you know, let's be honest,

1538
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 2: since early last fall, with the Reds losing in the postseason,

1539
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 2: the Bengals having a disappointing year. You see football having

1540
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: a disappointing year, FC Cincinnati losing the way they did

1541
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 2: to Miami. The college basketball season, UC and Xavior don't

1542
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 2: look like tournament teams, don't have tournament resumes right now.

1543
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 2: To have a team kind of carried the good vibes

1544
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 2: for everybody out of Oxford, Ohio is a lot of

1545
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: fun and so it's fun to watch, fun to track,

1546
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: fun to pay attention to. They're not getting the national

1547
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 2: TV treatment tomorrow, they're up to twenty second in the

1548
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 2: AP Top twenty five pole, but you know, fun to

1549
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: see them get talked about on CBS Sports over the weekend.

1550
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: Fun to see Travis Steele, even though nobody wants to

1551
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 2: see him in Espeedo, get the treatment on College Game

1552
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 2: Day on Saturday afternoon. Fun to watch Miami fans Miami

1553
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 2: grads enjoy the moment and look, man, it doesn't need

1554
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: to be pointed out that there are a lot of

1555
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 2: people going to those games who typically were not going

1556
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 2: to those games. That is a story as old as

1557
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: sports themselves. Team is dormant, teams not winning, people stop

1558
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 2: going like that's such a big part of this right

1559
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 2: the long stretch. I don't know how many people want

1560
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 2: to Mallett Hall when wally 's Erbiek was playing his

1561
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: final season at Miami, nor do I really care. But

1562
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: I do know that over the last twenty five or

1563
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: so years that typically those games have been sparsely attended.

1564
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 2: That's okay, And it's also okay that a lot of

1565
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 2: folks who had not given a Miami game another thought

1566
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 2: for years have decided to jump on board the bandwagon.

1567
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: You have that in every sport. You have that at

1568
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 2: least potential with every team in every sport, and so

1569
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 2: let those folks have their fun and hopefully it continues.

1570
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 2: Miami and UMass tomorrow at seven o'clock, setting the tone

1571
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 2: for the college basketball weekend this past weekend with a

1572
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: Friday night home win over Ohio University. Meanwhile, Red spring training,

1573
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 2: full squad workouts are underway in Goodyear. Terry Francona says

1574
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 2: Ellie Dela Cruz isn't going to play in one hundred

1575
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 2: and sixty two games this season, which good, not because

1576
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 2: you don't want to watch Ellie Dela Cruz, but because

1577
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 2: it does feel like, you know, there's a law of

1578
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: diminishing returns thing here where it's like the more you

1579
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 2: run them out there, the greater the probability that you're

1580
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,959
Speaker 2: running out a compromised player, a player that's not completely

1581
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 2: capable of tapping into his own greatness, that sort of thing.

1582
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 2: And I'm using greatness pretty loosely here, but they've told

1583
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 2: Ellie Dela Cruz, Ellie Delacruz no already wants this off.

1584
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 2: With the World Baseball Classic that was not an insignificant

1585
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 2: development because last year one of the stories of the

1586
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: entire season was man in the second half, Ellie isn't

1587
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 2: doing anything. He's bad with the glove, he's bad with

1588
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 2: the bad he's not hitting home runs. And we were

1589
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: told constantly, well, it's because he's not himself one hundred percent.

1590
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 2: It's not healthy. And the pushback to that was, well,

1591
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: then give him some time off, maybe put him on

1592
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 2: the injured list. Well you can't, because he wants to

1593
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 2: play every day. We just went around and around and

1594
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 2: around and around and around. When it comes to Ellie

1595
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 2: de la Cruz, maybe the light bulb has come on,

1596
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: and look, Terry Francona was hired to make tough decisions.

1597
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 2: He was hired to tell Ellie no. Last year there

1598
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 2: was a reluctance to do. So that's gonna change this year,

1599
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 2: at least according to Tito himself. Does it like when

1600
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 2: the bullets start flying, when the games matter, when there's like,

1601
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 2: you know, a Pennant race unfolding, or Ellie is in

1602
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 2: your ear saying do not take me out of the

1603
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 2: lineup tonight, Will Tito stand his ground and will Tito

1604
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: standing his ground help Ellie Dela Cruz maximize his talents.

1605
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 2: By the way, when we say no, he shouldn't play

1606
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 2: at one hundred and sixty two games, that doesn't mean

1607
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 2: he plays in like only one hundred and twelve games.

1608
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 2: The idea is still to have Ellie Dela Cruz in

1609
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 2: the lineup close to every single day, only a handful

1610
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: of off days. But also you do have the DH

1611
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 2: at your disposal, which gives him a chance to be

1612
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 2: in the lineup and help offensively without going through playing

1613
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: the game on defense, getting a half day off, so

1614
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 2: to speak. This dude's importance to this team cannot be overstated.

1615
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 2: The Reds offensively left a lot to be desired. There's

1616
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 2: more than one reason for that. There always are more

1617
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 2: than one reasons for a team's offensive struggles. The two

1618
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 2: hole production stunk, clean up production wasn't great. Didn't as

1619
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 2: a team hit a lot of home runs. Matt McLain

1620
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 2: had a sorry season. Christian and Carnassi on strand was

1621
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 2: mostly a non factor. But when I think of and

1622
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 2: I think for most of us, this is true. When

1623
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 2: you think of the Reds offensively last year, the first

1624
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 2: thing you should think of is Ellie's performance left a

1625
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 2: lot to be desired again, good reasons for that, with

1626
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 2: the quad injury, with his health, that has to change.

1627
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 2: That has to change, and we're all hopeful that the

1628
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 2: Reds can take this huge leap this year from what

1629
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 2: they were last season, which was eighty three wins, to

1630
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 2: something resembling ninety wins, something that puts him in a

1631
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 2: better position to challenge for a division title, overtake Chicago

1632
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 2: and Milwaukee. That doesn't happen if Ellie Dela Cruz stagnates

1633
01:32:54,080 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 2: or only gets this much better, or goes backwards like

1634
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: this team needs to make a leap, kind of feels

1635
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 2: like the year for Ellie to make one as well.

1636
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 2: By this season, when it's over, he'll have well over

1637
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 2: two thousand Big League played appearances. We could talk about

1638
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 2: this from you know, a lot of different perspectives defense,

1639
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 2: Like Tito and Nick Crawl have talked a lot about defense,

1640
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 2: got to be better defensively. Their big trade deadline acquisition

1641
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 2: last year was a third baseman who can't hit. Why

1642
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 2: did they get him because he could play defense. It

1643
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 2: is impossible to imagine the Reds defense being markedly better.

1644
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 2: If short stop is still an adventure. Think of how

1645
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,879
Speaker 2: many times last year that you got mad through a remote,

1646
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 2: hit the seat in front of you, whatever it was,

1647
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 2: because Ellie throws a ball away. Think of how many

1648
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 2: times last year, especially in key moments where the ball

1649
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,839
Speaker 2: is coming to Ellie and you hold your breath because

1650
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 2: it should be a basic routine play, but you know,

1651
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 2: with elliett could be almost anything, coupled with the amazing

1652
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 2: plays that the guy can make. How are you better

1653
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 2: defensively if your shortstop isn't better defensively and right now, Ellie,

1654
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 2: for better for worse, is a shortstop. There's been a

1655
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 2: lot of talk of the Reds running more, you know,

1656
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 2: blending twenty twenty three style with something that might be

1657
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 2: a little bit more risk averse. But last year they

1658
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 2: didn't run nearly as much. So we want to see

1659
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,799
Speaker 2: him steal more bases, want to see him create more havoc.

1660
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 2: I want to see him put more pressure on opposing defenses.

1661
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 2: How does that happen without Elie Dela Cruz having a

1662
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 2: significantly better season. Like when you think of the Reds

1663
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 2: and team speed and putting pressure on defenses, that conversation begins,

1664
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 2: and you might argue it ends with Eli Delacruz and

1665
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 2: then the whole power thing right, Like, sure man a

1666
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 2: Uhanos Wrez could hit the ball out of the ballpark

1667
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 2: thirty five, forty maybe forty five times this year. Hope

1668
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 2: he does? Right? Who doesn't? Hope he does. But you

1669
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 2: want a significant uptick in home runs, you want a

1670
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 2: significant uptick in difficulty to work around for the other

1671
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 2: team's pitcher or the other team's manager. Give me Ellie

1672
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 2: Dela Cruz hitting the ball out of the ballpark more frequently,

1673
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 2: certainly more frequently than he did in the second half

1674
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 2: of the season, when he went like two months without

1675
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:37,759
Speaker 2: hitting a home run. Like there's lots of moving parts

1676
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 2: and lots of questions we all have about this team.

1677
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 2: Is as spring training gets underway, the questions don't have

1678
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 2: that much to do with who's gonna do what, who's

1679
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 2: gonna play where, who's gonna hit where? I think it's

1680
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 2: more a question of when the games actually start, who

1681
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 2: gives what to this team, Who contributes more, who has

1682
01:35:56,360 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: a better season? Lots of different we can ask that

1683
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 2: question about lots of different guys we can answer that

1684
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 2: question with. But for all that Ellie has done for

1685
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 2: this team, and for all of his acclaim and accomplishments

1686
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 2: over his first three full big league seasons. Okay, two

1687
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 2: full big league seasons and I guess two thirds of

1688
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 2: one in twenty twenty three. There is a certain level

1689
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 2: that we expect him and almost no other player to

1690
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: reach on this team year four. It's kind of when

1691
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 2: it's supposed to happen, and if it happens for this team,

1692
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 2: then it's ceiling, so to speak, gets much much much higher.

1693
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 2: Twenty minutes after five o'clock on Moeger This is ESPN

1694
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening. Phone lines are open

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Speaker 2: eight sixty six seven oh two three seven seven six.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for tomorrow because we have on this weekend's

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Speaker 2: Internet Villain what we will talk about in less than

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: This report is I don't feel very good at all.

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Speaker 2: Second time I've done that in three days. By the way,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get sixty six degrees on Wednesday. We are,

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Speaker 2: we are, we are going into like my favorite, my

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Speaker 2: favorite lakes. Six weeks of the year gets darker. Later

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Speaker 2: baseball is going to be here NCAA tournament. A lot

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Speaker 2: going on. Uh, let's see here tomorrow. On the show,

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Speaker 2: we have a Cincinnati internet villain, Derek Carty, who's the

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Speaker 2: guy who for ESPN said the Reds might have a

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Speaker 2: bottom five starting staff and then reverse course on social media.

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Speaker 2: That is going to be at four oh five tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I've been told on social media, get them mouth like.

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Speaker 2: We don't really do that here. We're not a big

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Speaker 2: like get them get them not We're like, we like

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Speaker 2: to find people with interesting opinions, interesting perspectives and uh

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Speaker 2: and talk with them. We may disagree, we may have

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Speaker 2: differences of opinion, but no, we're we're not doing any Hey,

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Speaker 2: here's a guy who has an opinion that doesn't jive

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Speaker 2: with the consensus, and so let's get him on to

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Speaker 2: talk about it. And he was gracious enough to say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's le's do it. So that'll be tomorrow at four five,

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Speaker 2: plus our guy Paul Danner Junior in the three o'clock

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Speaker 2: hour and our man Stuart W. Penrose from the Manila

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Speaker 2: Law Group on like three or four different sports legal stories,

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Speaker 2: all of that between three and six tomorrow. John is

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Speaker 2: calling from Finley. John, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty John,

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon. How are you.

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Speaker 3: Great?

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Speaker 8: How you doing today?

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Speaker 5: Mo?

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Speaker 2: I've never been better in my life?

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Speaker 8: Great? Great? Hey, really excited about the red season starting.

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01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 8: I don't agree with the guy's take on the Reds

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01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 8: pitching staff, but I do kind of maybe see where

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01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 8: he's coming from. Be interesting to see what he has

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Speaker 8: to say. I do think this is kind of a

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01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 8: it's kind of a put up for shut up, kind

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01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 8: of a year for this pitching staff. I mean, we've

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Speaker 8: been told for several years now that Hunter Green's at

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01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 8: top of the rotation CI candidate, and so far he's

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01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 8: been good in I would say short stretches, but we

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01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 8: haven't seen a full season from him yet left Loan

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Speaker 8: any type of a playoff run, and I think that's

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01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 8: kind of where this whole pitching staff's at. I mean,

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Speaker 8: we still and that's the probably one of my big

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01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 8: things about us going into a postseason is we really

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01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 8: don't have anyone that's been postseason tested, and we have

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01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,560
Speaker 8: a lot of guys that's had pretty good stretches of

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01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 8: young careers, and Andrew Rabbit's probably been our most capable

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01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 8: started how Brady Singer was awesome last year as a starter,

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Speaker 8: and I don't know if he's ever been in a postseason,

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Speaker 8: But I just think for this group, I think, and yeah,

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01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 8: our pitching staff is really good on paper and in stretches,

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Speaker 8: but to see the staff go all through the season,

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Speaker 8: and then obviously I think Louder and Burns are good. Addition,

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Speaker 8: I don't think we're going to see them a whole

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01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 8: lot this year just because of the way they handle

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01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:09,640
Speaker 8: pitchers now, so I can kind of see where this

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01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 8: guy may have kind of poop pooed the red starting

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Speaker 8: staff at this point.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, I have a hard time believing

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Speaker 2: that unless there's just a catastrophic series of injuries, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be close to one of the worst in

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Speaker 2: the sport. But I certainly understand why one would believe

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01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 2: there's a world where they're not one of the best

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Speaker 2: three to four in the sport. That the key is health,

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01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 2: as you outlined it, right, like I think of the

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01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 2: high end for this team, Let's just make it about Green,

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01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 2: Lodolo and Avid for a second. If if they and

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01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 2: it's a big if, if that trio of guys can

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01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 2: make thirty starts a piece and get through the season

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01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 2: uninterrupted without having to go on the injured list, really

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01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 2: without having to miss a start individually, then I'll bet

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Speaker 2: on the talent and collectively, then this team has a

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01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 2: very good chance of being in a better place than

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01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 2: it was. You mentioned Brady Singer. The Reds would have

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01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 2: fallen off a cliff in August last year if not

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01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 2: for Brady Singer, who, by the way, did pitch all

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01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 2: of one game for the Royals and against the Yankees

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01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 2: in the postseason in twenty twenty four, but he struck

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01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 2: out the only batter that he faced. And then if

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01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 2: we spend the season agonizing over the fifth spot in

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01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 2: the rotation, whether it's Chase Burns, whether it's Rhet Louder,

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Speaker 2: whether it's Brandon Williamson. If we are spending a lot

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01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,759
Speaker 2: of time fretting over the fifth spot of the rotation,

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01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 2: that means that the other dudes are doing what we

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01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 2: expect them to do. They're healthy, they're performing at a

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01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 2: high level. And then I'll I think we'll all put

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01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 2: up with whatever growing pains a guy like Chase Burns

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Speaker 2: may go through, whatever growing pain still a guy like

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Speaker 2: Rhet Louder may go through, it will be interesting. As

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Speaker 2: good as the starting pitching was last year, what did

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01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 2: they do with the deadline. They got a glove, they

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01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 2: got a platoon bat, and they went out and got

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Speaker 2: one more starting pitcher. I don't think anything would be

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01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 2: surprising in that regard if they did something similar.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, And I think on the high end, if we

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01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 8: can kind of use this season as a as a

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Speaker 8: developmental year for Louder and Burns, that would be awesome. Yes,

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Speaker 8: we hopefully we won't we won't be like we have

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Speaker 8: to have those guys perform at a high level because

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01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 8: quite frankly, they're just not ready yet. And that's why

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Speaker 8: we have Green and Lodolo and Singer and Abbot and

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Speaker 8: like you said at that point. And then I think

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Speaker 8: the other thing to kind of behind the scenes, that

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Speaker 8: the additions that they've made to the bullpen I think

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01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 8: are going to be significant and by midseason we may

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01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 8: be really talking about how good some of these pickups were.

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01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 2: You know, I keep coming back to how many how

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01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 2: many spring trainings were we wondering who is supposed to

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01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 2: do what in the bullpen? And at the very least,

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01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 2: I don't think we're doing that right now. Now. There's

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01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 2: some hesitancies still as to whether or not Emilio Pagan

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01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 2: on a really good team is the nine ending guy.

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01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 2: But he wasn't a major problem last year. The Pagan

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01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 2: Santien thing worked out pretty well. I think they're better

1827
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 2: equipped for high leverage situations than they were last season

1828
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 2: against lefties. I think they're just better equipped to have

1829
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 2: quality arms to get the last, you know, nine outs

1830
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 2: of the game than they were last year. I think

1831
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 2: that's one of the things too. You know, as good

1832
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 2: as last year's starting staff was top to bottom. I

1833
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 2: think there were eight teams last year that on average

1834
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:24,639
Speaker 2: had longer starts per game. What you would like to see,

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01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 2: with better health and continued improve performance from the starting

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01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 2: pitchers is a little bit more length. And if the

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01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: Reds get it, it's going to make it all the

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01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 2: more easier for Tito Francona to manage that bullpen well.

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Speaker 8: And I think that's kind of the mindset behind picking

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01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 8: up some of those arms, is that, Okay, we can

1841
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 8: play this either way. Now that okay, if Hunter can

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01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 8: give us seven, that's fantastic. But if there's a situation

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01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:53,719
Speaker 8: where either matchup wise or maybe he's starting to get tired,

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01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,600
Speaker 8: and then I think we've gotten much more depth in

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01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 8: the bulten than we do than we did last year,

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01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 8: at least on tape. I mean, a guy like Scott Barlow,

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01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 8: it seemed like that guy was pitching almost every day

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01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 8: last year. I mean he was that guy had to

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01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,719
Speaker 8: be exhausted by the end of the season.

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01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Santien Barlow, you know, heck, even Pagan, I don't

1851
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 2: know how many teams had three guys appear in more

1852
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 2: than seventy games and each of those three did well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think one of the things I think

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01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 8: we'll see different this year's some of the games we

1855
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 8: lost last year was just because the bullpen was just

1856
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 8: exhausted and Santian and Santion or Barlow or one of

1857
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 8: those guys wasn't available because they pitched the last three

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01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,640
Speaker 8: days in a row or something like that. So I

1859
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 8: think just having that extra depth is going to create

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01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 8: some more wins that way. So yeah, I think I'm

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01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 8: always optimistic, but I'm really excited to get this season going.

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Speaker 2: You and me Bo, John, thanks as always. Thanks both.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty six from six o'clock. I mean you you

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01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 2: we still talk about like the Red's having a really

1865
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 2: good young starting staff and yeah, there's no one who's

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01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 2: thirty four years old. But like this is gonna be

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01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 2: the fifth big league season that Hunter Green has been

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01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 2: a part of. I mean, think about it. He started

1869
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 2: the season with the club in twenty twenty two and

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01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 2: hadn't gone through a full big league season without getting hurt.

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01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 2: Like this is fifth big league, fifth big league year. Nicolodolo,

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01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 2: fifth big league season. Andrew Abbitt, you know, was called

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01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 2: up right before Elie de la cruz fourth big league season,

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01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 2: two of those guys had been All Stars. Like, the

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01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:40,759
Speaker 2: only box that that trio hasn't checked off is getting

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01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 2: through big league seasons uninterrupted. I will take my chances

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01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 2: if I can get ninety starts from those three, and

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01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:55,919
Speaker 2: then you know, I'll be okay, really with whatever happens

1879
01:46:56,600 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 2: at the back end of the rotation that gets disrupted

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01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 2: more than like one guy having to spend ten days

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01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 2: on the injured list, then suddenly the foundation gets kind

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Speaker 2: of shake. What do we have here? It's twenty five

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Speaker 2: college basketball poll. Louisville is twenty first. Kentucky falls out

1907
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Speaker 2: of the AP Top twenty five. Lots of coaches shows

1908
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 2: Tonight on ESPN fifteen thirty. We have the Mark Pope

1909
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 2: radio Show that is at six pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1910
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 2: The NKU Coaches Show follows at seven pm on ESPN

1911
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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. The Richard Patino Radio Show will be at

1912
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:04,599
Speaker 2: seven fifty five KRC. You can talk about Xavier's victory

1913
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 2: over Marquette on Saturday. In the NFL today, the Miami

1914
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 2: Dolphins are blowing it up, which they should. They have

1915
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 2: relieved released and I guess you could say relieved released

1916
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill and Bradley Chubb, among others. In the Olympics,

1917
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 2: the US women's hockey team is advanced to the gold

1918
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Speaker 2: medal game after a five nothing victory today over Sweden.

1919
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 2: The Americans will take on Canada, winners over Switzerland in

1920
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:34,639
Speaker 2: the other semifinal game in the gold medal tilt, which

1921
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:43,560
Speaker 2: will be on Thursday eighteen away from six o'clock. The

1922
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 2: the hockey and the Olympics, like I love Olympic hockey

1923
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 2: for reasons, I can't necessarily articulate. I don't know. I

1924
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 2: just I pay closer attention, Pay closer attention, Pay closer

1925
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Speaker 2: attention to the four Nations event last winter mulager on Twitter.

1926
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 2: You could tweet this show anytime. Yes, we still call

1927
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Speaker 2: it Twitter. Thanks to a Delta Dental. Delta Dental is

1928
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Speaker 2: building healthy, smart, vibrant communities for all good at Delta

1929
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Speaker 2: dentaloh dot com. You know Terry Francona told his team

1930
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 2: in Goodyear it's time. And I think what's one of

1931
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 2: the interesting dynamics about this team is that message resonates

1932
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 2: because that message, I think reflects how we all feel.

1933
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 2: This process that the Reds have gone through really started

1934
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 2: in earnest after the twenty twenty season. And not that

1935
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 2: we have to do a whole history lesson here, but

1936
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty was the COVID year sixty game season. They

1937
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 2: kind of went for it the previous offseason. It really

1938
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 2: didn't work out. After the sixty game season, Dick Williams

1939
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 2: left and the team gave away Rice il Iglesias and

1940
01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,640
Speaker 2: Archie Bradley, and even though the team was pretty competitive

1941
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, it was abundantly clear that the

1942
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 2: plan moving forward was to get rid of a lot

1943
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 2: of guys and start from scratch. And that's what they

1944
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 2: did in twenty twenty two. That feels like forever ago.

1945
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 2: So they made the postseason last year, which was important.

1946
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 2: Making the postseason last year was it was tangible proof

1947
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 2: of a plan that's working now. That can't be the

1948
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 2: culmination of it. The culmination has to be consecutive years

1949
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,640
Speaker 2: of making the postseason and playoff advancement and maybe a

1950
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 2: couple of division crowns and at some point like legitimately

1951
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 2: going into the playoffs as a World Series bonafide and

1952
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 2: maybe even getting to and winning the World Series. So

1953
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: it kind of feels like, all right, last year made it.

1954
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:55,639
Speaker 2: This year, it's let's go right, it's time. The core

1955
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 2: of the team has been intact now for a reasonable

1956
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 2: amount of time. Starting staff is pretty well established. They

1957
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 2: didn't they made a big move in getting a Juhanio Soarez,

1958
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 2: But it's not like the twenty twenty six Reds have

1959
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 2: been built by a whole bunch of outside acquisitions who

1960
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 2: weren't with the team last year. A whole lot of

1961
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 2: guys have been a part of this franchise for a while.

1962
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 2: A whole lot of guys have been through some ups

1963
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 2: and downs at the big league level for a while.

1964
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Speaker 2: So it kind of feels like it's time. Usually when

1965
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 2: you say that, though, I think the ceiling feels higher.

1966
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 2: This is not unlike the conversation we had last week,

1967
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 2: which was there's a lot that's not settled in goodyear.

1968
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, there's a lot that is settled in goodyear.

1969
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 2: Not a whole lot of gigs up for grabs, not

1970
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 2: a whole lot of roster spots, not a whole lot

1971
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 2: of starting jobs. If that's the case, you know, shouldn't

1972
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 2: the team be in a better position. Shouldn't the team

1973
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:55,519
Speaker 2: seemingly have a higher ceiling. But it's interesting, like the

1974
01:52:55,640 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 2: message is it's time? Two things about that? Is the

1975
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 2: team good enough to mesh with that? Typically you look

1976
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 2: at a team and say, it's time and you feel

1977
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 2: great about the roster. Do we feel great about the

1978
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:17,879
Speaker 2: roster to go? Yep? It's time? Yep, it's time, and

1979
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 2: it's time for this team, for this franchise to take

1980
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 2: a major step forward. We all agree at some point

1981
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 2: like this whole process hasn't mattered unless they take a

1982
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 2: major step forward, a major step beyond simply winning eighty

1983
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 2: three games and making the postseason. It's one thing to

1984
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 2: deliver the message. It's something else to have a team

1985
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 2: that matches the message. Is the team good enough for

1986
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 2: this really to be the time? I think also, if

1987
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:55,639
Speaker 2: it's time, like if this is the year, you go, okay,

1988
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:59,759
Speaker 2: it's time to legitimately compete, And like legitimately compete means

1989
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 2: you don't just make the playoffs, but like you make

1990
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 2: the playoffs with some ease. We're not sweating out Game

1991
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 2: one sixty two. You're not trying to find out who's

1992
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 2: gonna pitch for you in the postseason because you needed

1993
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 2: to use all your bullets in regular season games in

1994
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 2: the last weekend of the season. If it turns out

1995
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 2: to be that this season isn't the time and they're

1996
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in when the playoffs begin, what's

1997
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 2: the fallout like? Then? What what's legitimately like? What's the fallout?

1998
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 2: I think for the Bengals this coming season, Yes, leaning

1999
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 2: into continuity, but it does feel like there's a real

2000
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 2: legitimate sense of if it doesn't happen this year, there's

2001
01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 2: going to be fallout. Nobody wants to go down this

2002
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 2: road because we all want the Reds to be a

2003
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: better team this season, But what's the fallout look like

2004
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 2: if they're not? What's the fallout if instead of it

2005
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 2: being time, the team kind of takes a step backwards.

2006
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, but like the message we all agree with,

2007
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 2: and part of it is like it's time for some

2008
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 2: of these dudes to just simply be better, like something

2009
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 2: we talked about a lot this offseason. Yeah, they need

2010
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 2: a bad from outside, Yeah, they should have maybe been

2011
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 2: more serious in their pursuit of Kyle Schwarber. And yeah,

2012
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 2: in the absence of Kyle Schwerber, maybe they should have

2013
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 2: made a play for Pete A. Lonzo And okay, cool

2014
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 2: i u Hanio Suarez is a really good consolation prize

2015
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 2: and we're all happy we're here, by the way, really

2016
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 2: good Charlie Goldsmith piece on Gino that you should have

2017
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Speaker 2: already gotten in your inbox because you subscribe to him,

2018
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 2: but nonetheless like, yes, gotta go get a piece from outside.

2019
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 2: But like a lot of these guys have been here

2020
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 2: now for a while, Like the Matt McClean thing. Matt

2021
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 2: McClean got such a long leash last year and it

2022
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 2: felt like, you know, they put up with him not

2023
01:55:57,280 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 2: being very good for the entire season. Now he moved

2024
01:55:59,880 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 2: him down in the batting order. But a lot of

2025
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 2: other dudes got sent down. A lot of other guys

2026
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 2: were optioned to Louisville, a lot of other guys lost

2027
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 2: their starting gigs. Matt McClain not so much, and they

2028
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 2: put up with a mess season from Ellie de la

2029
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:20,200
Speaker 2: Cruz like it is it is time, It is time,

2030
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 2: and you know, this is the first season where going

2031
01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 2: into spring training it it really felt like not the hope,

2032
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 2: but the expectation was to like legitimately be a playoff team.

2033
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 2: And again, when I say legitimately be a playoff team,

2034
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 2: like go in with some level of ease. Let's make

2035
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:42,480
Speaker 2: sure the game one sixty two doesn't count. Uh eleven

2036
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Speaker 2: away from six o'clock. The Mark Pope Show was coming

2037
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 2: up at the top of the hour on ESPN fifteen

2038
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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports.

2039
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Speaker 1: Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

2040
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2041
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2042
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Speaker 4: Call five one three five eighty five UCCC. One accident

2043
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Speaker 4: has now been cleared out in Ohio on northbound seventy five.

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Speaker 4: This is after two seventy five new crash in on

2045
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Speaker 4: Hunt Road over at Plainfield Road. Also another new accident

2046
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Speaker 4: on Martin Luther King Drive at Burnett Avenue and McMillan Street.

2047
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Speaker 4: Also an accident at Auburn Avenue. I'm at Ezeleic with

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Speaker 4: traffic this report.

2049
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Speaker 2: To my knowledge today at least nobody got cut. No one.

2050
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Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Danner's going to be with

2051
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Speaker 2: us tomorrow. I think I mentioned that last segment. If

2052
01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 2: I didn't, I just mentioned it again. Plus Derek Cardi

2053
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 2: from ESPN who said the Reds will have a close

2054
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 2: to bottom five staff and then quickly reverse course after

2055
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 2: he got harassed on the internet by legions or Reds fans.

2056
01:57:57,760 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 2: Many of those same Reds fans, like a month ago,

2057
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 2: would to the team is gonna stink. We gotta go.

2058
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 2: Show's over. That's why you're hearing music. Don't forget since

2059
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 2: he three sixty tomorrow at noon, we are back at

2060
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Speaker 2: three oh five. Mark Pope Show is next. This is

2061
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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, enjoying

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Speaker 1: A healthy dinner that