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Speaker 1: official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go Sincy three to sixty? Uh tarn?

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Speaker 2: Are we allowed to take?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Can I get a thirty? I need a time out

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Speaker 2: before the show starts.

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Speaker 4: I mean me and you both into thirty?

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Speaker 2: Why get a get a thirty in here?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: I've got my favorite meal in Cincinnati in front of me,

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Speaker 2: and uh I was devouring it. Shout out to former

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Speaker 2: Bearcat Leo Morgan and the fine folks that Island Fridays.

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Speaker 2: The food Truck's back. If you don't know, for those

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Speaker 2: that were favorites of Island Fridays when they were in Clifton,

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Speaker 2: it's a food truck in East College Hill now and

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Speaker 2: Tarin and I are having that for lunch and it's

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Speaker 2: amazing and I would rather eat that than talk, but

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Speaker 2: they pay me to talk, so talk we will. Mister

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Speaker 2: Tarren Blant. It is a Friday football frenzy. We have

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Speaker 2: a ton of football to get to. Talkbacks coming up

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Speaker 2: in our number two. As always, we'll also talk to

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Speaker 2: Klay Snowden from Just Baseball. We neglected the Reds yesterday

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna we're gonna get a little bit of

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Speaker 2: red some red stuff here in the middle of the show.

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Speaker 2: But for the most part, it's the Friday football frenzy.

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Speaker 2: So we will be talking Bengals, Packers, we will be

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Speaker 2: talking the NFL. We will be talking the Bearcats taking

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Speaker 2: on the Middle Florida Institute of Hospitality on Saturday at

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Speaker 2: Nippert Stadium. We'll take a look around college football. It

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Speaker 2: is going to be wall to wall football today, so

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Speaker 2: I hope everybody is ready for that and ready to

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Speaker 2: go here on Sincy thirty sixty.

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Speaker 4: You're not.

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Speaker 2: You have not lost track of time. It is noon. Normally,

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Speaker 2: if you hear Tarren and I together three o'clock today, noon,

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Speaker 2: Tarn is he's doing double duty. He'll be here for it.

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Speaker 2: Is it pep rally today Bengals pep Rally. NGOs pep

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Speaker 2: Rally will be coming up at three o'clock. But you've

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Speaker 2: got myself and Tarn in the booth from now until three.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals have named Joe Flacco as the starter, so

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Speaker 2: we will get to that. We will get to The

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Speaker 2: bear Cats are in a spot that is going to

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Speaker 2: kind of give us a glimpse into how the rest

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Speaker 2: of this thing goes. That they are playing a team

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Speaker 2: that they should beat, but they're playing a team that

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Speaker 2: is talented, a team that is not having the type

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Speaker 2: of success they hope to have. In the return season

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Speaker 2: of Scott Frost in Orlando, they have been pesky that

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Speaker 2: they're a team that kind of hangs around because their

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Speaker 2: defenses is pretty good, because their run game is pretty good,

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Speaker 2: they've been able to hang around. But they've got quarterback issues,

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Speaker 2: a lot of injuries in the quarterback room for Middle Florida,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna find out about the kind of the

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Speaker 2: character of this team because they've had two big wins

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Speaker 2: in a row. They are in a position this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Next week, You've got this game Saturday at noon. The

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Speaker 2: next week, you go to Oklahoma State, who is the

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Speaker 2: worst team in the league, and you have a chance

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Speaker 2: to get to four and oh in the league. And

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Speaker 2: if you're a four and oh in the league, you

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Speaker 2: got five games left and you're in the hunt to

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Speaker 2: play in Dallas for a conference championship. I think if

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Speaker 2: I would have told anybody coming into this season that

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati was going to win at Kansas, they were going

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Speaker 2: and a bad Oklahoma State team with a chance to

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Speaker 2: go four and oh, they would take it. But here's

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Speaker 2: the tough part. Now, you got to go win the games. Now,

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Speaker 2: you have to take the games that you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: where we're sitting here Monday going what the heck happened?

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Speaker 2: How did they let this momentum slip away? I think

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Speaker 2: there are plenty of reasons why Cincinnati can overcome that,

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Speaker 2: and we will get to that. Well, we'll we'll take

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Speaker 2: a look around the sports world. Last night, boy, arn,

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Speaker 2: it's been a rough couple of days here in the

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Speaker 2: sports radio world in Cincinnati, we have powered through you

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Speaker 2: know where I'm glad I'm not at today, Tarren. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad I'm not in Philadelphia because it is a bad

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Speaker 2: Last night Eagles started four to zho lost last week. Okay,

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Speaker 2: bumping the road sometimes that happens. And there's been some

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Speaker 2: things about the Eagles this year, specifically why can't they

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Speaker 2: You got the Giants. You should be able to handle

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Speaker 2: year when he wasn't playing the Bearcats, Cam Scattibell was

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Speaker 2: a monster. Nineteen carries, ninety eight yards, three touchdowns. He's

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Speaker 2: a crazy person. I saw somebody label him today Tarn

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Speaker 2: as a smaller version of Gronk if he saw last

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Speaker 2: night in the post game, he hauled Coogan his undershirt

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Speaker 2: and did a postgame interview. Sands anything up top, and

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Speaker 2: he's a meathead and he likes smashing his head into things,

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Speaker 2: and last night he smashed his head into the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 2: And the Eagles are now four and two and they're

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Speaker 2: in a tough division. Boys are playing well, Commanders are good.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out if last night was a blip on

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Speaker 2: the radar for the Giants. But with Cam Scattaboo and

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Speaker 2: division is looking increasingly tough and the Eagles are sliding

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Does this kind of remind you of

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Speaker 2: them two years ago? Tea, if you don't have a

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Speaker 2: a team that looked in disarray. Then they had a

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Speaker 6: This is the roller coaster known as the Jalen Hurst Experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, if you listen to this network, there are

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Speaker 2: When you've watched the Eagles and paid attention when they

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Speaker 2: Their offensive lines banged up. Their entire identity is kind

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Speaker 2: bad day to meet a microphone in Philly.

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Speaker 4: And then the Flyers lost too, and the Flyers lost too.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's how out of the loop I've been.

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Speaker 2: That's how busy I've been. I didn't even know that

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Speaker 2: the NHL started yet. So yeah, bad day to be

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Speaker 2: a sports fan in Philadelphia. Also in MLB yesterday, the

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Speaker 2: Cubs six nothing over the Brewers. Ian happ with a

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Speaker 2: They cruise home, the Brewers only with three hits. That

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Speaker 2: series is tied at two, and they resume. Game five

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Speaker 2: this has been the best series so far in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Two teams that are a lot of fun to watch,

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Speaker 2: two teams with some power. You've got Scooball on the

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Speaker 2: tonight and then like I said, tomorrow, Cubs and Brewers

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Speaker 2: head into the LCS. Which you want Tigers or Mariners

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Speaker 2: against the Blue Jays? Tearn, I mean Mariners. I think Mariners.

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Speaker 2: Blue Jays would be a lot of fun, a lot

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Speaker 6: I would say that Wisconsin could be feeling like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah they could probably not though probably huh.

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Speaker 4: I think in one sport they might.

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Speaker 2: In one sport they might, Yeah, I mean Saturday, maybe

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Speaker 2: Sunday there's I get that there is some hope with

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Speaker 2: some there is some hope on the horizon. When you

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Speaker 2: which I just don't think suits well for them. I

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Speaker 2: just don't. I just don't see a path to victory here.

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Speaker 2: You're in green Bay. Green Bay started off looking like

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Speaker 2: lost to the Browns and tied the Cowboys. Woof right,

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Speaker 2: They've had an extra week. They they've already seen Joe

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be an angry Packers team. And they

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Speaker 2: looked incredible the first two weeks against the Lions and

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Speaker 2: the Commanders, two good team teams. Green Bay dominated them.

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Speaker 2: Then they slip up and lose thirteen to ten to

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Speaker 2: Now you get the Bengals four to twenty five kick CBS.

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Speaker 2: A lot of eyes are going to be on this one.

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Speaker 2: I find a hard time locating the path to victory

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Speaker 2: for the Bengals here. Eighty point four percent in the

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Speaker 2: matchup predictor eighty point four percent chance tarn that the

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Speaker 2: More than a few of our patients have talked to me,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta get abbe just an instant mean mug

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Speaker 2: in the studio Taran.

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Speaker 6: Or will you be watching O Gilbert from the.

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Speaker 2: I plan to Yeah, it's mis Sico gonna be there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right probably? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean who you got cash money or no Limit

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Speaker 4: I'm big no limit fans.

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Speaker 2: Me too, Me too. I had a no Limit phase, Tarren,

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Speaker 2: I probably about every No Limited album for I don't know,

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Speaker 6: Now, I know what everybody said, or I know football show.

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Speaker 6: That's my thoughts on this, on this versus if they

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Speaker 4: And stupid great. I'm not taking nothing away from it,

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be the key. I'm going to no limit.

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Speaker 2: Football Frenzy Friday, football frenzy, Joe Flacco talking. We will

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Speaker 2: We'll try to get you the Joe Flacco audio. I

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Speaker 2: like what he says. He's I don't have all the answers.

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Speaker 2: Keep it simple and go play football. Don't make it

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Speaker 2: and this offense looks like it's going to be competent again,

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Speaker 2: let them go do what they do with it. Jake

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Speaker 2: get to the phones. Mark and Florence. Mark, how's it going.

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Speaker 10: Brother, Chad Brenda and I got I got to talk

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Speaker 2: Me too, Me too, Mark, me too, trust me.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm still I'm still trying to get over this,

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Speaker 2: I think it has to be with Flacco, right, you

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Speaker 2: And you know the biggest problem with this game, right.

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Speaker 2: Like, that's the biggest problem with this game, period, point blank.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's a book out on how to deal with him.

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Speaker 10: You just got to line up and run straight at it.

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Speaker 10: You know, So I mean to run the ball, run

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure the Bengals could line up and run

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Speaker 10: Yeah, if they don't win the game, but they're.

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Speaker 10: Do you think is that? Is that a good sign?

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Speaker 2: Because, like I said, Steelers Jets, Bears, Steelers again. Like,

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Speaker 10: Okay, got it? So when when can I see you

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Speaker 10: have the Holy grill again?

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Speaker 2: I'll be at the Holy Grail against Saturday. Next Saturday,

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Speaker 2: the eighteenth eight o'clock kickoff, Bearcats take on the Cowboys

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Speaker 10: Okay, got it, Okay, I'll be there, all right.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, good to hear from you.

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Speaker 11: All right, got it?

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Speaker 2: One more Mike in La Mike, you're early today. It's

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Speaker 2: early out there on the West coast. You're feeling good

434
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Speaker 2: after the Phillies threw that away.

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Speaker 12: I'm not sleeping too good.

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Speaker 13: Hey, I love it.

437
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 12: I love it.

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Speaker 5: The city of phil Phiadelphia does a double gag on

439
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Speaker 5: the same day.

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Speaker 2: Bad day to be a microphone in Philadelphia, Mike.

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Speaker 12: Philadelphia, Man, I don't like a damn thing about I

442
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 12: hate their teams. It's a joke of a town, dirty

443
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 12: old city.

444
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: Chief stakes are good. Cheese stakes are good.

445
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Speaker 12: And we can get them anywhere. You can probably make

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Speaker 12: a good one at home.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: You know, I can't find Cooper Sharp. If I can

449
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: find Cooper Sharp around here, I feel a lot better

450
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: about my cheese steak. You need the Cooper Sharp.

451
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 12: So get online and buy you some typew.

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Speaker 2: That's the that's true. I could probably do that. I

453
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: don't think I like I'd have to buy a whole

454
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Speaker 2: block at Cooper Sharp. I want one cheese steak, Mike.

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Speaker 4: I don't, I don't need. I don't need.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not. I'm not opening up a shop.

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Speaker 12: Exactly. Hey, Karen, go downtown and get the man whatever

458
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 12: he needs.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Tarn got Tarren picked up lunch today and it

460
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: was amazing, so to me and Tarren are good right now?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it sounded like it was real good. Hey, and

462
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 12: you said you were the Mariners and the Tigers were

463
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Speaker 12: the best series. I'm here to just give you a

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Speaker 12: hard time. The Mariners and the Tigers. And you said

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Speaker 12: yesterday you haven't even watched any of it, So how

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Speaker 12: on the hell would you know?

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Speaker 2: I can keep I can follow it without watching it.

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Speaker 2: I can still follow along. I just haven't had time

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Speaker 2: to sit down in front of a TV.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's missing the drama. But it's going to be

471
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Speaker 12: a West coast that's going to be a left coast

472
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Speaker 12: world series. My Dodgers and the Seattle Mariners. It should

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Speaker 12: be a dandy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't. I don't think the Cubs or

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Speaker 2: the Brewers are going to put up much resistance for

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's just the the the Brewers there They're pitching

478
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Speaker 12: staff is just completely Oh.

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Speaker 2: If it's the Brewers, it's big trouble for Milwaukee.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cubs have a better chance than Milwaukee does

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think so too against the Dodgers. I do,

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Speaker 12: because they hit that they're hitting better, and they're they're

486
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Speaker 12: pitching isn't great either. I uh, I got I think

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Speaker 12: green Bay that's a lot of points fourteen, but but

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Speaker 12: they may cover that with that Bengal defense. Yeah, and

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Speaker 12: running game. We don't have a damn running game? What

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Speaker 12: do you call it?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying that Mike I just said, I

492
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Speaker 2: don't think they could run the ball against Moler.

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Speaker 12: I missed that part. I'm sorry. That's very accurate depiction.

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Speaker 12: I don't see how they can. I mean that green

495
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Speaker 12: Bay defense is young and very fast, and they're going to.

496
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Speaker 2: Be mad like they they feel like they let two

497
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Speaker 2: get away, one that they lost against the Browns they

498
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: never should have los and the tie against the Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: and they get a bye week like they're gonna be

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Speaker 2: all kinds of ticked off on Sunday before twenty five.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, that's true. I hated the Dodgers to win

502
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 12: that way yesterday, But you know, he didn't. Who cares.

503
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Speaker 12: I did a little bit, he did not. I thought

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Speaker 12: I felt a little sorry for that rookie pitcher because

505
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Speaker 12: he he hemorrhaged a little bit there. Yeah, you know,

506
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Speaker 12: nobody you remember years ago that Donnie Moore that pitched

507
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Speaker 12: for the Angels and he blew up a World Series,

508
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 12: a closing game, lost the game, and he committed suicide.

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Speaker 12: You remember that Donnie Moore?

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Speaker 2: That was what thirty years ago, probably nineties?

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think it was nice.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, some of these kids take this to

513
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Speaker 12: heart a little bit too hard. But you know what

514
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Speaker 12: I'm most excited about after your interview with Wes yesterday,

515
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Speaker 12: I am so excited about Bearcat basketball.

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Speaker 2: He was really good yesterday, wasn't.

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Speaker 12: He Yeah, he was, And it just and it all

518
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 12: made sense to me. It wasn't like pie in the

519
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 12: sky and well, if we get this out of that guy,

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Speaker 12: and if we get to there's a sense of confidence

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Speaker 12: in his voice that I haven't heard before.

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Speaker 2: It feels like that. But yeah, I didn't feel like

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Speaker 2: there was much coach speak yesterday. It sounds here, here's

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Speaker 2: here's the best way I could describe it, Mike, It

525
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Speaker 2: sounded like he was excited to talk about his team. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's that's usually a good sign. That's usually a good sign.

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Speaker 12: And I know you don't want to talk about X,

528
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Speaker 12: but you think Patino will put together a good program

529
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Speaker 12: over there.

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Speaker 2: If they give him time. Yeah, I think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be rough this year. I think it's gonna be rough

532
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Speaker 2: this year because I think as late as he got

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Speaker 2: in and as crazy as the portal was last year,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say they punted, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think they were overly aggressive. I think they looked at

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Speaker 2: it and said, we'll build a foundation for this year.

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Speaker 2: They went out and took a lot of guys that

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Speaker 2: have multiple years two three years of college remaining. We'll

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Speaker 2: try to develop some guys and we'll try to put

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Speaker 2: the foundation in place. But I don't think they were

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Speaker 2: overly aggressive in the portal. Some of it for reasons

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Speaker 2: beyond their control. Probably a smart decision. And I think

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Speaker 2: Richard can coach. I think he learned a lot from

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Speaker 2: his time at Minnesota, and you know, he developed at

545
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Speaker 2: a incredibly high level when he was at New Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Like the guys that they were were churning out of

547
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: there high level guys. You'll get to see one out

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Speaker 2: there in LA this year. And Donovan Dead maybe the

549
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: best point guard in the country this year, So I

550
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Speaker 2: think he'll be fine. I think it's they're going to

551
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Speaker 2: need a little patience though. Is I think that Big

552
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Speaker 2: East this year is going to be rough on them,

553
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Speaker 2: and I think they need to just kind of keep

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Speaker 2: their oars in the water and let him do his

555
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Speaker 2: thing and not turn on him as soon as things

556
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Speaker 2: get a little bumpy. I think that's important for this

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Speaker 2: year for them.

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Speaker 12: Plus he had the greatest in house teacher with his ad. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: As far as learn or not to do the jump, yeah,

560
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Speaker 12: And I know you got to go and I got

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Speaker 12: to go too. But this one last question was is

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Speaker 12: how I'm excited you were about this? Uh? I forget

563
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Speaker 12: his name, about this new power forward? We got what

564
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Speaker 12: was what's your name him?

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Speaker 2: Uh that's on the team this year, Boba Miller.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bobba Miller.

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Speaker 2: That I'm really excited about Boba Miller. I had looked,

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Speaker 2: and I had I had a scouting friend of mine

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Speaker 2: who's been around the game forever and ever and ever.

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Speaker 2: He said the problem so far with Boba has been

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Speaker 2: that he'll put up thirteen and five in the first

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Speaker 2: half and go, you know, five of six from the

573
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Speaker 2: field and like he'll have you salivating and he'll finish

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Speaker 2: with fifteen and six. Wow, And he said.

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Speaker 12: You said, yes, sir, you said, just making a few.

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Speaker 2: Make a few free throws, like get to you know,

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Speaker 2: if you if you have that first half where you

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Speaker 2: go thirteen and five and you can finish with seventeen

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Speaker 2: and eight, yeah, then you're in a really good spot.

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Speaker 2: So that he needs to continue his development. But boy,

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Speaker 2: and he's he can handle the ball, he can shoot,

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Speaker 2: he can defend, He's every bit of six eleven if

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Speaker 2: he's not seven feet and he and he had a

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Speaker 2: really good summer with the Spanish national team. So I

585
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Speaker 2: don't know that. I think Mustapha cham is going to

586
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Speaker 2: be their best player, the big guy. But I think

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Speaker 2: Bobbon Miller is the guy that can potentially raise the

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Speaker 2: ceiling of this team higher than anybody else on the roster.

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Speaker 14: Wow.

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Speaker 12: Do you is Miller a sick guy? Is he a

591
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Speaker 12: big sick guy?

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Speaker 2: He's bigger than you think. He is not super thin,

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Speaker 2: Like I know, when you think a lot of these,

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Speaker 2: like you know six eleven fours that they're super thin.

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Speaker 4: He is.

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Speaker 2: He is bulk year than I thought he was going

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Speaker 2: to be in a good way. I think it's functional weight,

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Speaker 2: functional strength. He's got a nice frank good deal.

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Speaker 4: All right, Thanks Mite, Thanks.

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Speaker 2: For appreciate you. All Right, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: Terre's probably mad at me. I'm way late. Sincinnati's ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 9: You've been listening to football in the Natti on ESPN

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Speaker 9: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Alexa, what's going on in baseball?

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Speaker 10: Up?

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Speaker 4: Yay my fault?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, limit Friday? Terrence, we don't know limit Friday.

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Speaker 4: Yep, that's the first aurum.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the phones and Jeff

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Speaker 2: and Virginia. Who is on his way to find Austin

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Speaker 2: Elmore in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Jeff, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Brother?

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Speaker 13: Happy Friday?

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Speaker 3: Chad?

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Speaker 13: Driving through southern Wisconsin a lot like driving from Cincinnati

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Speaker 13: to Columbus. There's a lot of cornfields around here.

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Speaker 2: So what's your least favorite stretch of road to drive?

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Speaker 4: Jeff?

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Speaker 2: You drive a lot, right, I have two.

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Speaker 13: More than I drive. Last year, the drive to Kansas

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Speaker 13: City to go to the Chiefs game once you got

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Speaker 13: past Indianapolis was.

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Speaker 4: Bad but super boring.

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Speaker 13: Anything around DC is just death if you got the

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Speaker 13: wrong time. Probably from my house to the outer banks

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Speaker 13: of North Carolina is my least favorite drive in the world.

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Speaker 2: I would say my least favorite is that stretch on

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Speaker 2: I forty from like the end of Tennessee to like Ashville,

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00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: that mountain stretch where you it's just switchbacks like that.

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Speaker 2: That's awful. And then the drive from Columbus to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: is terrible, terrible.

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Speaker 13: There's just not a whole lot on any of those drives.

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Speaker 13: That's your eag. I'm a training a little bit.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 13: I got the Lambeau Tour this evening.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 13: Get to go to the visitors' locker room. Uh, maybe

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Speaker 13: find a good fish try on a Friday night while

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Speaker 13: I get a spotted cow or two.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow's cheese curds.

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Speaker 13: I'm not sold on that. I'm more interested in Broston

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Speaker 13: cheese curds.

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Speaker 2: You, so you should probably try it just to make sure.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, tomorrow, roll up on someplace that has some good

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Speaker 13: college football, And I looked this morning. A standing room

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Speaker 13: only ticket for the Brewers game is a buck fifty,

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Speaker 13: and I was like, m's tempting. I haven't been to

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00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 13: that stadium. I could knock it off my list. But

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Speaker 13: and then Sunday, you know, I think you can the

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Speaker 13: parking lots open eleven thirty, roam around, check out all

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Speaker 13: the tailgates, maybe steal a broad from somebody, and be

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00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 13: in my seat at three o'clock and see what happens

655
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 13: at three twenty five. You know, no expectations whatsoever.

656
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I have an expectation, but it's not good.

657
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: Jeff.

658
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 15: Yeah, I just I you know, I just don't know.

659
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 13: I'd like we talked about the other day. I think

660
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 13: this game is just to get him in the groove

661
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 13: with the Steelers coming up, because he knows more about

662
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 13: the Steelers than eighty percent of the people in the

663
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 13: Bengals premises.

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Speaker 4: I would agree. I agree.

665
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Speaker 13: I agree with everything you said. Give me a reason

666
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 13: to stick around for the second half. Don't let it

667
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 13: be twenty It's like the Super Bowl kind of Yeah,

668
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 13: give me a reason to watch the second half. If

669
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 13: it's twenty eight to three at halftime. I might get

670
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 13: up and roam around Lambeaux and just check everything out

671
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 13: and see how much food I can eat?

672
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 2: Who knows, walk around the neighborhood, see see what people

673
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: are doing in their in their driveways.

674
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm really really looking forward to knocking this off

675
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 13: my list.

676
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: It sounds awesome. I can't wait, you know what.

677
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 13: And it's gonna be like sixty to sixty five degrees.

678
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 13: It's not gonna be really bad weather whatsoever. So everybody

679
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 13: just sit down, you know, grab a beer on Sunday

680
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 13: at four since time, and let's see what happens.

681
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Jeff, have a great trip, man, enjoy.

682
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 13: Have a great weekend.

683
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: Shame all right, thanks man, And finally we'll get to

684
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: Dick and Dayton. Dick, how are you, my brother?

685
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 15: How are you, Chad?

686
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: It's been a rough week, Dick, But I'm hanging in there.

687
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 15: Yeah. Were you surprised that Flaco came to the Bengals?

688
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: I mean, no, it fits. There are some things about

689
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 2: it that don't make a whole lot of sense, such

690
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: as putting an immobile, forty plus year old quarterback behind

691
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 2: an offensive line that's that's not very good. That doesn't

692
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: make a whole lot of sense. But but he he

693
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: has seen it all and he is probably if you

694
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: were talking about who can we get on Tuesday that

695
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: can start on Sunday, Joe Flacco is probably the best

696
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: bet there. They had to give up very very little

697
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: to get him. It probably made the most sense. There

698
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: are some things I think, yes, okay, I can get

699
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: on board with. There are some things I think, boy,

700
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 2: if they can't protect him, this this could be very

701
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: short lived.

702
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 10: You know what worries made that the Bengal defense does

703
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 10: not look good this year.

704
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 15: Jed has it.

705
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: No, they stink, dick, They're bad, They're They're not good

706
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: at all.

707
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 15: About the Reds.

708
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to the Reds. I've got Klay Snoden

709
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: from Just Baseball coming up at the top of the hour.

710
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 2: They did, they did just enough. I need to say more.

711
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: I need to see a commitment from this franchise, and

712
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: I have a fear that I'll get to in the

713
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: next hour. I'm gonna It's something I'm going to be

714
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: monitoring this offseason. They got a lot of guys that

715
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: are due for arbitration, and I do not want to

716
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: see this franchise use the excuse of we spent our

717
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: money this offseason in arbitration keeping our guys. They've got

718
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: to go get a couple of bats. They have to

719
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: go get some hitting.

720
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, listen, good to talk to you.

721
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: Thanks, Dick, appreciate it.

722
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: Talk to you soon, Talk to you soon.

723
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 12: Bye, buddy.

724
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: All right, just take a break, final one of the hour.

725
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: We'll be back after this. Or do you want to

726
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: keep going Tarren, I'll leave this up to you. What

727
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: do you want to do? No, Okay, We'll take a break.

728
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: This is Sincy thirty sixty, a service to Skyline Chile.

729
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: Right here on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: We don't get, we don't get My song today at all.

739
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 4: It's depressing. Yeah, no, not on this show. It's depressing.

740
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: All right. Fine, you want some more bad news, you

741
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: don't get international player's anthem, and you might not get

742
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. Zach Taylor talking to the media, Jamar Chase

743
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: is questionable due to illness that came on last night.

744
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: Uh oh, not great. Bob and Zach also said, Dalton Reisner,

745
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 2: we'll start at left guard. If Dylan Fairchild can't go,

746
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: confidence level is shrinking, tarn shrinking. Let's we'll get back

747
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: to that. Talkbacks are open. Remember we're coloring in the

748
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: lines with talkbacks. I know people are still upset. I'm

749
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: still upset. If we're gonna play talkbacks, we got to

750
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: play by the rules. Let's let's keep it to Bengals.

751
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: Let's keep it to Bearcats. Let's keep it to Reds.

752
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: Let's keep it to the news that Jamar Chase might

753
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: not play because he is sick. Not not ideal. What

754
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 2: is ideal is being joined by my guy Klay Snoden

755
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: from Just Baseball as the Reds enter into a very

756
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: very important offseason. Clay, you did not come up with

757
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 2: an illness last night, correct?

758
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 5: Correct? But when you were talking about the Bengals to

759
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 5: lead in here. I was a little worried I would

760
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: have to talk about football, which is which is not

761
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 5: something you want me to do.

762
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: No, I would never make you do that, but it

763
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: is a Friday football frenzy, and the news just came

764
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: out there might not be Jamar, so I had to

765
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: preempt you, like for like sixty seconds.

766
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 5: Who cares, man?

767
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: They got Joe Flacco, Joe Flacco. I felt a lot

768
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: better about Joe Flacco if I knew Jamar Chase was

769
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: healthy and available. Is that fair?

770
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 5: That's fair? It might be time to start thinking about

771
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 5: the draft.

772
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: That's talking football with Klays. Note and let's get to

773
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 2: some baseball now, Clay, an interesting offseason for the Reds.

774
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: In large part, I think the most interesting thing that

775
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: we are going to experience this offseason with the Reds

776
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: is they've had a very young core that was very

777
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: cheap for a long time that starts to take a

778
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: turn this year with guys entering into those arbitration years.

779
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 2: Is this something to worry about when you think about

780
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: the Reds adding to this roster and making this team stronger,

781
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: or are we going to hear we had to spend

782
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: a lot of money in arbitration to keep this cord together.

783
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and those who don't know, in arbitration every year

784
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 5: your salary has to go up. If you're in arbitration

785
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 5: one this year and you're an arbitration two, even if

786
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: you had a bad year, your salary goes up. Luckily,

787
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 5: the Reds have enough players that are still in that

788
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 5: pre ar that I don't think it should be an excuse.

789
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 5: Even if they wanted to use it as an excuse,

790
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 5: there's not quite enough there some money coming off the books,

791
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 5: like that should not be an excuse. That does. I mean,

792
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 5: I don't think they'll use one, but it should not

793
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 5: be the main excuse. However, you know, there's some rumblings

794
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 5: about a potential Hunter Green trade, which is I'm literally

795
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 5: writing the articles as we speak about it, and that

796
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 5: makes me uneasy.

797
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: That would be the dumbest thing in history, one of

798
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: the dumbest things in the history of the franchise.

799
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 16: I I'm not a spin Zone guy, you know that.

800
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 16: I literally think if they did that, they would lose fans.

801
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 16: Like I think people that would be the final straw

802
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 16: of why do I keep investing time into this when

803
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 16: you know, it's it's this obvious that they don't have

804
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 16: that much interest.

805
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it would be one thing if if you knew,

806
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: like at some point in the next two to three years,

807
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: Hunter Green would be completely exorbitant in cost. But you

808
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: signed him to that long contract for a reason. I thought, yeah,

809
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: that would.

810
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 5: Just to give you some some numbers that I just pulled.

811
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 5: Green's contract is so favorable. It's eight million next year,

812
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 5: fifteen million the year after that, twenty twenty eight, sixteen million,

813
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 5: with a twenty one million dollar player or excuse me,

814
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 5: club option in twenty twenty nine. Jameson Taion makes it

815
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 5: venteen million. This year, Alex Kobb made fifteen, Matthew Boyd fifteen,

816
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 5: Luis Severino made twenty three million, and Walker Bueller, coming

817
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 5: off injury, signed a one year, twenty one million dollar deal.

818
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: Nick Martinez made twenty million dollars this year. Level Nick

819
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: Martinez made twenty million dollars this year.

820
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 5: Exactly, exactly, you have a great contract here and if

821
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 5: the idea is well, we'll fill some holes by trading him,

822
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 5: will you. Because Michael Confordo made what I think seventeen

823
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 5: this year, and Max Kepler made ten eleven million dollars

824
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: this year. The money's just not adding up in trying

825
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: to trade him for younger, unproven players doesn't add up.

826
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 5: But the bigger issue to me is the type of

827
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 5: player Tito wants is not the type of impact player

828
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 5: that you get for trading Hunter Green. Like, he's not

829
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 5: going to want some home run hitter who we probably

830
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 5: all want. He's going to want someone who just makes contact.

831
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I picture like Nico Horner for the Cubs

832
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 5: being like Tito's favorite player.

833
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I guess The question then becomes, what in

834
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: the world do you think they could could actually get

835
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: for a Hunter Green? Are like, are we talking prospects?

836
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: Like what what's the what's the scuttle about?

837
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: Is it?

838
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: Is it we're trading Hunter Green for a proven, high

839
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: level bat like I might I might be able to

840
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: get behind that.

841
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 5: And in theory there's an angle where like it's acceptable

842
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 5: to an extent, but that that's kind of what I'm saying,

843
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 5: is what type of impact back would you say? I

844
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 5: know Francona would want because the impact back you could

845
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 5: give would be a home run hitting we're unproducing. That's

846
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 5: not Tito's forte. He's not gonna want that. He's gonna

847
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 5: want some contact hitter that you could get on the

848
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 5: open market for eight to twelve million dollars. And if

849
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 5: you're trading Hunter Green in that favorable contract for something

850
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 5: like that, that's just malpractice.

851
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I and I guess the only reason

852
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: I could I could get behind it as if you

853
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: said we're not going to be able, we don't think

854
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: we can go on to the free agent market and

855
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: get the type of bat that we want. But like

856
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: you're saying that, that doesn't necessarily mean it's automatic that

857
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: you're going to go into the trade market and get

858
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: the type of bat that you want. So I've already

859
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: had a rough week. You just made it worse. Clay,

860
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: He's made it worse.

861
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 5: I think that angle and that strategy can still work,

862
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 5: but it does not have to be hundred great. Right,

863
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 5: you can trade Nickelodolo abbit and your abb like there's

864
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 5: other players with value louder contract. It would still hurt

865
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 5: Louder like. You can still do that angle without it

866
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 5: being the guy that has been kind of the face

867
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 5: of the franchise, the spoken voice of the clubhouse the

868
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 5: past couple of years, the guy that you drafted number two, developed,

869
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 5: stuck with I, improved every single year, and now has

870
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 5: a good contract. Why would you trade that?

871
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all. I was

872
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: gonna before you completely derailed my brain, I was gonna say,

873
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: like I've I've heard a lot of like, Okay, the

874
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: Nick Martinez money would come off the books twenty million

875
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: that but that is like, that's probably about how much

876
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: like Brady Singer, Gavin Lux, Tyler Stevenson, Nick Lidolo. I

877
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,479
Speaker 2: imagine they're probably gonna want to keep Graham Ashcraft, TJ.

878
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: Friedl Tony Santion, Like that's probably going to total up

879
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: to about twenty million in raises, right, Yeah, I.

880
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 5: Mean you're looking at some some guys who are going

881
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 5: to get raises. Yes, But at the same time, to me,

882
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 5: like you can trade those players too.

883
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 11: Yeah.

884
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 16: Like TJ.

885
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 5: Friedle, as much as I like him, I think he's good.

886
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 5: The team is made up of too many TJ. Friedles,

887
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 5: a limited ceiling, a high floor, a good player to have.

888
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 5: But how many times do you say that player for

889
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 5: the Reds is good. I'd love them to beat in

890
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 5: the bottom third of my lineup on a good team

891
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 5: like the Reds are made up of that. How many

892
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 5: of those guys came?

893
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: You have a lot of six seven eight hitters, a

894
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: lot of six seven eight hitters on his team. Yes,

895
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: In looking at that list, the one name that sticks

896
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: out to me the most on the arbitration eligible list

897
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: is Spencer Steer. There is talk of south Stewart spending

898
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: a lot of time at first base next year. Are

899
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: you going to make Steer your full time left fielder

900
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: because they're gonna have to. It's probably gonna get in

901
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: like the five million range for Steer, you would think.

902
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 5: Right yeah, right now, spatrac, which is my favorite site

903
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 5: for this type of stuff, hasn't that four million projected?

904
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 5: And what I think you could do with Steer, What

905
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: I would prefer is just have him literally do nothing

906
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 5: to work on defense, Like if he can be that

907
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 5: bench utility piece. We've seen him play third, second, left, right, first,

908
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 5: Like if he could fill that role and just be

909
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: better defensively, which is something players can improve on in

910
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 5: an offseason, we've seen it. Then four million dollars is

911
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 5: not bad at all, Like it costs more than that

912
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 5: to get those type of players or around that money.

913
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 5: You have one announced that's you know, been solid enough

914
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 5: and if you can get steered of do that position

915
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 5: now if you can't, if you can't improve defensively, he

916
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 5: becomes the the trade candidate to move on from. He's

917
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 5: kind of a sneaky twenty eight years old too.

918
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: Right, like he was not when the youth movement happened.

919
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: He was like twenty five, twenty six, right, like, yeah,

920
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: six und age, twenty six years old when the when

921
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: the youth movement happened a lot of guys, you know,

922
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: he he gets lumped in, I think because everybody thinks, well,

923
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: all those guys were like twenty two. He was twenty

924
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: six at that point in time. So yeah, that's for me.

925
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 2: That's the interesting one is what is the path going

926
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: forward with Spencer stear Is it starting left fielder? I

927
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: don't think it's d h No, I don't think that

928
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: is where I would use him. So he's interesting. And

929
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 2: then the other I guess, Tony Santion, what do you

930
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: think they do with Pegan who's a free agent? Do

931
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: you think they just let that go go to Santion?

932
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 12: Think?

933
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's gonna get kind of expensive. I

934
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 5: don't see the red spending a lot of money on

935
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 5: their bullpen going from that. As much as I'd like

936
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 5: to have gone back, and I thought that was a

937
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 5: good signing at the time, I think, like you're saying

938
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 5: it's getting expensive elsewhere, you would hope that the bullten.

939
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 5: You know, it's an area that you could patch up

940
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 5: with with free agency, and you know, pop the players

941
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 5: that we see like Connor Phillips showed some promise kind

942
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 5: of out of nowhere, and Matt McLean's are eligible as well,

943
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 5: and that one is going to cost it says projected

944
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 5: two point six million. So you've got players that you

945
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 5: don't even have faith in that you're going to be

946
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 5: having to give a couple of million two and all

947
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 5: of that adds up quickly, which is I think the

948
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 5: point you were trying to make earlier. And when it

949
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 5: comes down to, it's how much do you want to

950
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 5: pay a little bit older reliever that you just ran

951
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 5: through the ringer this year throwing a NonStop.

952
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean NonStop, to the point that in the

953
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: heart of a playoff race they were having to hit

954
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: the pause button. That's how much he had been used.

955
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really aggressive by Tito. I don't know

956
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 5: if I don't really know how to feel about it.

957
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, like you just

958
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 5: put a lot of wear and tear on that arm,

959
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 5: how much are you willing to get them?

960
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 2: So if you're looking at let's say Stuart at first,

961
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 2: if they bring back Steer, let's say he's in the left,

962
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: I guess Marte is in right.

963
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

964
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: If you're adding a bat like you're limiting, you're you're

965
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: already kind of running out of spots that you can

966
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: go get a big stick.

967
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 6: Right, yeah.

968
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 5: And I think the easiest thing is letting Gavin Lux.

969
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 5: If you non tender him, so you don't give him

970
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 5: that last year of arbitration, and you let Gavin Lux walk,

971
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 5: you would free some money. He's projected around sure where

972
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 5: million dollars?

973
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: So you got key Brian Hayes at third, which that

974
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: that looks like he's your third baseman, Stewart at first

975
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 2: hypothetically Steer and left Marty and right, where where do

976
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: you go find this bat? And like where do you

977
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 2: put him? Are you looking at a d H?

978
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say just straight up for replacing Gavin?

979
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 5: What's this role of DH slash? Maybe a second base option?

980
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 5: And again it comes back to TJ. Friedel, like, I

981
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 5: feel like we know what he is and that's his position.

982
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 5: You can upgrade. Finding a center fielder is really difficult

983
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 5: to do and they cost a lot of money and

984
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 5: I don't know if the Reds can do that unless

985
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 5: they were to trade, you know, a pretty significant piece

986
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 5: to acquire one. So for me, it is like the

987
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 5: picture you're painting here is well, they really don't have

988
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 5: that much in terms of opening. But when you just

989
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 5: think about it, replace Gavin Lodge to replace Au today,

990
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 5: He's like, you'll find that bats. You always will find

991
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 5: that bats. So for me, it's just those moves that

992
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 5: they made last year. You just have to replace those

993
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 5: guys with more impactful and more expensive players.

994
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm not going to entertain the Hunter Green thing yet, Clay.

995
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm not going to let myself go there. I'm not

996
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: because it would make me angry on a Friday, and

997
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to be.

998
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 4: Angry on a Friday in that position right now?

999
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: Hunter Green, Niclodolo, Andrew Abbott Singer and Chase Burns. Yeah,

1000
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: what do you think about Burns as a closer?

1001
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 5: I just don't think you can do that. I mean,

1002
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 5: I like what they at.

1003
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: Least at this point too early in the playoffs.

1004
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 5: Too early. You spent a high draft pick on him.

1005
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 5: He's electric, He has the stuff to be a starter.

1006
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 5: He has the highest upside of any of your arms

1007
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 5: outside of Hunter Green. So I and maybe that's why

1008
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 5: they want to have this idea of moving Green. For me,

1009
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 5: that's just way too risky, way too early. If Chase

1010
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 5: Burns had a year or two of this under his belt,

1011
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 5: I'd probably be more open to it. But he doesn't,

1012
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 5: and he hasn't shown it to the level that makes

1013
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: me comfortable with trading proven pieces that are high in starters.

1014
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: How about the bullpen? How does the bullpen shake out

1015
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: this offseason? Who are you confident with? What do they

1016
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: need to get better back? There is Littel gone?

1017
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 10: Okay?

1018
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: Is Littel gone?

1019
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1020
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 5: Okay, I think he's gone.

1021
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 12: You know.

1022
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 5: For me, there's not a ton of I have faith

1023
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 5: in this person. I'm just not there yet. I Mean,

1024
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 5: I think Tony Santeon's a guy that I definitely want

1025
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 5: in the bullpen, Like I'm comfortable with him, Graham Ashcraft,

1026
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 5: I'd welcome him back.

1027
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 4: Great.

1028
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 5: They need a lefty so badly and in fact, they

1029
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 5: probably need to, and it's the idea of throwing up

1030
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 5: Sam Maul and grind Suitor and kind of cycling in

1031
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 5: some of these four A guys behind them. I'm just

1032
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 5: done with that. I want a legit lefty out of

1033
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 5: the I don't have names in front of me. That's

1034
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 5: more of a November topic. But they definitely need some

1035
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 5: lefty competition there, and they need especially if they lose Pegane,

1036
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 5: They're going to need another higher end or excuse me,

1037
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 5: higher leverage arm. That does not mean it has to

1038
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 5: be the most proven closer on the market. Pegone was

1039
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 5: not that when they signed him, but they need a

1040
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 5: guy with some experience.

1041
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like, I think the bullpen was fine this year,

1042
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: but it was also fine this year because you took

1043
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: two guys and you kind of ran them into the ground.

1044
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: And generally guys that do that, right, Like, the success

1045
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 2: rate drops drastically for guys that had heavy, heavy workloads

1046
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: the season before, doesn't it.

1047
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1048
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially when you think Pegan was coming off of

1049
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 5: an injury the year prior to this year. And yeah,

1050
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I we see it across the league. September,

1051
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 5: Lol City goes down and a lot of times these

1052
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 5: players will kind of feel the sores after the season

1053
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 5: ends and they've had a you know a little bit

1054
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 5: of time off.

1055
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 11: And.

1056
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 5: There's always the sneaky Oh, this player has got surgery.

1057
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 5: We never even knew about this, and so we'll see

1058
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 5: there's not a ton coming back from injury. I know

1059
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 5: we've all forgotten about Brandon Williamson. He's probably more of

1060
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 5: a starter, depth starter.

1061
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 12: There's just not a ton there.

1062
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 5: Julian at Agyar is another guy who is more of

1063
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 5: a depth starter than a bullpen option. So I think

1064
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 5: that they're going to have to lean into the free

1065
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 5: agency market for bullpen arms. And that's a risky game

1066
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 5: to play.

1067
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: It is because there's it's a crop shoot, like the

1068
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: variance is so high on bullpen guys, the ones that

1069
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: are out there that you know are going to come

1070
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: in and you can have the utmost confidence that this

1071
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: guy's going to give you eighty innings and you know,

1072
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: a sub three era, the Reds aren't gonna pay for

1073
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: those guys. So again, it feels like like we're headed

1074
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: towards our starters are good. We're going to patchwork the

1075
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: bullpen and hope that we get like one two guys

1076
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: that really stand out, and then we can we can

1077
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: hold it together best as possible from there.

1078
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, last thing in the bullpen, those free agents bullpen arms.

1079
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 5: Like you said, it's a crapshirt. I think can Or Scott,

1080
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 5: who was the highest paid who the Dodger signed, was

1081
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 5: awful this year. Devin Williams went to the Yankees, was bad,

1082
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 5: ended up in the seventh any Like, even guys who

1083
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 5: are established don't always put it together year to year.

1084
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 5: So that's why I don't worry about it too too much,

1085
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Speaker 5: Like just bringing guys who at least have shown success

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Speaker 5: at this level and bringing enough of them that the

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Speaker 5: ones that fail can kind of be, you know, hopefully

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Speaker 5: outweighed by the success storders.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, does it come down to this, Clay, can this

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01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 2: front office put together an offense that isn't going to

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Speaker 2: have so many zero won, two run games And if

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Speaker 2: they can't, things are probably capped at eighty five wins, right,

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Speaker 2: Like you can't have forty to fifty games, sixty games

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Speaker 2: where he scored two runs or fewer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I know we don't have time to get

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Speaker 5: into Terry Francine and his decisions, but we.

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Speaker 2: Got all off season, Clay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he's like raising players floors either.

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Speaker 5: So for me, it's this team is playing with a

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Speaker 5: couple of hands guided behind their back in several different ways.

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Speaker 2: Clay, you didn't make me feel good about this Reds

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Speaker 2: conversation today. You just started with this Hunter Green thing

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01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: and it went all downhill from there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, reality could be tough.

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01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,479
Speaker 2: I just wish I had more faith in this front

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: office to be aggressive, because I do think, I do

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01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: think there is enough of a corps that if you

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01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: put the right pieces around it, that they could be

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Speaker 2: a team that's in that eighty eight eighty nine win range,

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Speaker 2: in a good position going into the playoffs and finally

1111
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Speaker 2: being able to take advantage of They've got the starting

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Speaker 2: pitching to be dangerous. But if you go into the

1113
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: playoffs and sure, you're starting pitching could be dangerous, but

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01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: you're playing the Dodgers scoring three runs, two and a half,

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01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: three runs more often than not, like you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: win those series. And I want to believe that this

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01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: is heading in the right direction, but I just don't

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01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: have that faith at this point in time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the front office has been kind of cowardly and

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Speaker 5: they need to make an aggressive move. I've been saying

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Speaker 5: it for two years. They need to roll the dice

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Speaker 5: even if it goes wrong.

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Speaker 2: Aggressive move last year, of course, was Tito. Well you're

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01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 2: not getting a new manager. That's not happening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's rough, man, it is rough.

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Speaker 2: Well, Clay, It's gorgeous outside and it's gonna be gorgeous

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Speaker 2: all weekend. So you enjoy that. Okay, Yeah, have you

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Speaker 2: been to that cheesecake place.

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Speaker 4: In Louisville yet?

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure what you're talking about.

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01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: Oh, there's a new cheesecake place in Louisville. I've seen

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01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: it on TikTok. They have incredible, like like like ten

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01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: different flavors of cheesecakes every day.

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01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 5: That sounds like something I need to do.

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01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find I'm gonna find it and text it

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Speaker 2: to you. It looks amazing. So I need somebody on

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01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: the ground, boots on the ground in Louisville that tries

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01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: this place and can give me a report so I

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Speaker 2: know whether or not it's worth it to drive down

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Speaker 2: to Louisville.

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Speaker 4: Just to get some cheesecake.

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Speaker 10: I'm your.

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Speaker 2: Back with a full report, all right, Clay thanks Man,

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01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: talk to you soon.

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Speaker 4: I have a good weekend.

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01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: There you go, Klay Snowden, just baseball, Taren, That did

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01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: not make me feel good.

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Speaker 4: What does I'm talking about?

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01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 2: Some talks about trading Hunter Green? What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break, talkbacks, clean, family friendly, color, within

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Speaker 2: the lines, talkbacks coming up next on Since thirty sixty,

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Speaker 2: a service of sinc shirts right here on Cincinnati's ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 9: This is Football in the NATI, brought you in part

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Speaker 9: point thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: We're not doing a talkback theme song today.

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Speaker 4: We can't.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, all right, we're still doing talkbacks, all right,

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

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Speaker 4: We're still going talkbacks, but we just couldn't do open okay. Cool.

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Speaker 2: Well, then let's get to the talkbacks, talkbacks, talkbacks. Doing

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Speaker 2: talkbacks today with me and tearing talkbacks. Talkbacks. Okay, here

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Speaker 2: we go, talkbacks. That's my talkback song.

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Speaker 4: Very good, pretty nice.

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Speaker 18: Hello Sincy three sixty Jeff from Madge Wood, Hi, Jeff

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Speaker 18: hey Man. Joe Flacco. Well, let me think about this.

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Speaker 18: Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 2: Hm hm, hmmm, he's gonna run out of time, Terrance.

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Speaker 18: Let me think about Jake Browning. Joe Flacco is the man.

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Speaker 2: I think he spent some time at the dispensary yesterday.

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Speaker 12: No.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say there's anything wrong with that. I just

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Speaker 2: that just kept felt like a he called from the dispensary,

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Speaker 2: maybe the parking lotthod.

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Speaker 14: Hey, guys, you know what I think's cool about Flacco

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Speaker 14: is he has played in all of the as what

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01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 14: was that see North State? Now, Lord knows how many times.

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Speaker 14: He's not going to feel any pressure stepping into those

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Speaker 14: situations because he's familiar with it and he's got that experience.

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Speaker 14: He's got the big arm for the cold weather. He's

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Speaker 14: not mobile, sure, but he's not going to take unnecessary

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Speaker 14: his He's not dumb.

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Speaker 13: He's got popular awareness.

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Speaker 14: And I think it's gonna be good for Jamorro and

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01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 14: he to play with an experienced quarterback like that. It'll

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Speaker 14: help them grow.

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Speaker 13: Tom Burrow comes.

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Speaker 14: Back in and it might even help Burrow grow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with with most of that. I think

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Speaker 2: if I'm concerned about anything right now, it's the interceptions

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Speaker 2: and how those have kind of piled up of late.

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01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: And he only threw one hundred and sixty passes with

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01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: the Browns, he threw six interceptions. So for me, like

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Speaker 2: the margin of error for this team to be respectable

1197
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: right now is thin. I'm worried about the turnovers more

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Speaker 2: than anything you saw. When Browning turned it over, things

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Speaker 2: got disastrous real quick. That's what I'm concerned.

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Speaker 4: About, you know.

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Speaker 19: In fact, I think bringing Flacco into this locker room

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01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 19: to become the facto leader is going to be a

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Speaker 19: turning point for this franchise if we keep him long enough.

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Speaker 19: I would love to have him back as a backup

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01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 19: quarterback for years to come, for Burrow to even grow

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01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 19: from his experience, and he might even help Zach rewrite

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01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 19: the playbook a little bit to be a little bit

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Speaker 19: more conducive for quarterback play.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but Flacco's seen it all. So let's

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Speaker 4: see what happens. And I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Fair, Fair, they should Marcus from the groove, Marcus, what's up?

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Speaker 19: Do you think there is a result.

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Speaker 20: More a scenario, meaning like just absolute embarrassment, Dad Zach

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Speaker 20: Taylor would be fired come Monday morning.

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Speaker 2: I really don't. I really don't. I think maybe that

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: you could make a great case for it, But what

1217
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: do we know historically about about Mike Brown in this franchise.

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01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: They do not like to pay people to not work.

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: That's why I worry about even if this thing bottoms out,

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01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: Zach still got a year on his contract, Like, would

1221
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: they even fire him then? Because they just don't like

1222
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: paying people to go away and not you know, get

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01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: their money's worth out of what they are paying them.

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 2: That's them of the franchise, do I think? Look, if

1225
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 2: the Packers win thirty eight to nothing or thirty eight

1226
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: to seven or whatever, yeah, you could absolutely justify making

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01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: a move on Monday morning. But that's not the im

1228
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: of the ownership. And you know, I one of the

1229
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: things I try to live by is when people show

1230
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 2: you and tell you who they are, believe them. And

1231
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 2: the Bengals have not shown to be a franchise that

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01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: likes to pay people to go away.

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Speaker 21: Wow, Chad written down mo Waiter Kevin from Northern Kentucky

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01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 21: all classes ninety five actually graduated with both found that

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 21: out a little bit after graduation. Tony going to miss

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01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 21: here in your every day when these airways. Man, you're

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Speaker 21: a big part of my day. Such a blessing Bearcat

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01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 21: legend icon. Great dude, if you've seen him on the street,

1239
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 21: and if you didn't know, he talked to you like

1240
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 21: he's on you for ten fifteen years. Very approachable guy.

1241
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 21: This one really sucks and it's going to stating for

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Speaker 21: a long time.

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Speaker 2: Goodn't a green more Kevin also a Northern Kentucky class

1244
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: of ninety five Guy Loydan Memorial High School thirty year

1245
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: reunion was last weekend. Tern Wow, thirty years thirty thirty.

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 2: I was three thirty years ago. Thanks thanks to appreciate

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01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: that make me feel good.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me get this straight.

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Speaker 22: So a week ago we couldn't name ten players in

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01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 22: this entire Bengals roster that was any good or that

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01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 22: we'd like to see back for next year. Yet after

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01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 22: training for seventy five year old Joe Blackham, who is

1253
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 22: the worst QBR in passer rating than Jake Brown, and

1254
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 22: all of a sudden, there there's hope for the season again.

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Speaker 4: No, this roster is still terrible. This changes nothing, and

1256
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 4: the people in this in this.

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Speaker 22: City are insane with this hopeing and this I mean,

1258
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 22: this is crazy.

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: I don't disagree. You have not heard that from me.

1260
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: I have heard it around the city. I think it's

1261
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 2: because people want to believe, like they want to believe

1262
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 2: that at two to zero, Joe Burrow was going to

1263
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: make magical things happen this year, and even with Burrow out,

1264
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: there are things in place that they can win without him.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's true. I do think they, you know,

1266
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,799
Speaker 2: like we're talking about like the Bears and the Jets.

1267
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: I don't believe in the Steelers at this point, even

1268
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: though they look like they might run away with the division.

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01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 2: I think people are holding on to the hope that

1270
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 2: there's something there. But if you guys listen to me

1271
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 2: for long enough, you know I have not been a

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01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: believer in this roster throughout the entire all season. And

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01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: I've always gone back to the Paul Danner Junior article

1274
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty, where he asked the question, how many

1275
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,799
Speaker 2: players on this roster are top ten at their position

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01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Oburrow's out, You've got Chase and Higgins. Higgins,

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Speaker 2: you could argue, probably is not top ten, but somewhere

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01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: in that next group after Hendrickson, is in the top

1279
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: ten at his position group in the NFL. That's it.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: There's not anybody else that you could feel comfortable saying

1282
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 2: is that the top ten in their position group in

1283
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 2: the NFL. It means you've got a bad roster. Flat

1284
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 2: out means you got a bad roster.

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01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 4: I'm with you.

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01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm not overly optimistic with Joe Flacco. I don't know

1287
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: that I would have been overly optimistic with anybody they

1288
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 2: could have added.

1289
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 20: Okay, Chaed, welcome to talkbacks Ray from Cleaves here.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 20: He' just curious in your opinion, assuming that Zach Taylor

1292
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 20: really isn't the right guy to coach the Bengals, what

1293
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 20: coach do you think would really actually take the job

1294
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 20: that's any good meaning they know what they're going to

1295
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 20: have to deal with with the Brown family. What coach

1296
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 20: that's worth the assault would really be interested in the

1297
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 20: job that's good?

1298
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Speaker 4: Do you think?

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01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: I look, I get what you're saying, and it's not

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Speaker 2: that I disagree, But there's not a coach out there that,

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 2: if the money was right, would turn down the opportunity

1302
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: to coach Joe Burrow. Because if you've got the quarterback

1303
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: you've got a chance, even if you've got a questionable

1304
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: ownership group, even if you're questionable at a million other things.

1305
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: If you've got the elite quarterback and this franchise has

1306
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: the elite quarterback, people are going to be interested. Now

1307
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: the problem would would likely be there, the money wouldn't

1308
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: be right because the Brown family's not going to go

1309
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: out and pay for an elite coach. I just don't

1310
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: think they will. When you're talking ten twelve plus million

1311
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: dollars a year for an elite coach, think they would

1312
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 2: do that. So the job is still attractive as long

1313
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: as Joe Burrow's name is attached to it. But they

1314
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: they they hinder that because I don't think they're willing

1315
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 2: to go out and say we're going to spend ten

1316
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: eleven million dollars on a head coach to come in

1317
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: and give us the most chance possible to win a

1318
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

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01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 3: Hello, this is former president President Will. To quote my

1320
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 3: friend CHUCKI Dickens, it was the best of times. It

1321
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 3: was the worst of times. First we got to hear

1322
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 3: the awesome news that Tony Pike got into the UC

1323
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 3: Football Hall of Fame. Then we got to hear Tony

1324
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 3: Excel as the football color commentator. Unfortunately, earlier this week

1325
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 3: we also heard that he's been let go. I would

1326
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 3: be remiss if I didn't say just how sad that

1327
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 3: news made me.

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Speaker 2: Agree, mister President, is there a part two?

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01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 12: No?

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01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, And to be.

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01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 22: Fair, I'm not faulting the Bangals for doing this move.

1332
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 4: I mean, you had to do something. But for the

1333
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 4: fans or anybody.

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01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 21: To act like this change is anything is just pure delusion.

1335
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 4: I mean, have you guys watched him play in Cleveland

1336
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 4: this year?

1337
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 2: Cleveland also doesn't have Jamar Chase and t Higgins. Like,

1338
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 2: I get not buying in on Joe Flacco, but let's

1339
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 2: not act like the situations are the same. In this situation,

1340
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is going to be asked to get the

1341
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 2: ball in the hands of those two guys and let

1342
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 2: them do their thing. He's more than capable of doing that. Now,

1343
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 2: if they ask him to sit back in the pocket

1344
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 2: for three four seconds and be a statue as this

1345
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: offensive line collapses around him, that's going to be a disaster.

1346
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 2: But if used properly, he's certainly a better option than

1347
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 2: Big Brownie.

1348
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 4: Hey, Ted, good to hear you on the radio. Thank you.

1349
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 4: I hope you're a permanent fixed your on radio. I

1350
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 4: like when you're on.

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01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 23: I hope the Bear Cast do well tomorrow. I have

1352
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,839
Speaker 23: a feeling that I have a big run day tomorrow.

1353
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 23: He run all over that UCF defense. Definitely sad to

1354
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 23: hear about Tony, but I guess the only thing I

1355
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 23: can think of is stop using him as a promo.

1356
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 21: If you're you're not keeping him hired.

1357
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's the Lord. I hope talkbacks haven't been eliminated.

1358
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 7: They have a simple playbook for Joe Flacco. Pass the

1359
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 7: ball to t Higgins if he's open, Pass the ball

1360
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 7: to Jamar Chase if he's open, pass the ball to

1361
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 7: Mike is Sicki's if he's open.

1362
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 2: Great game plan. I agree. I would do that as well.

1363
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 2: I'd pass it to Chase Brown if he's open.

1364
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 21: To Hey, Chad eyting good with trading Hunter Green.

1365
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 4: I think we're trading high on him. I don't.

1366
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 23: He doesn't pitch a whole season. He crumbles into big games.

1367
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 23: So if we can get some high end prospects out

1368
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 23: of him, like a bat and another high end pitcher prospect,

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01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 23: I think that's a good deal. I think we got

1370
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 23: a lot of other pitchers in the pipeline as well

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01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 23: to fill in his role.

1372
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 2: Look, here's the one thing I definitely would agree with

1373
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: the inning stuff, is concerning the last four the four

1374
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 2: years of his you know, major league career, one twenty five,

1375
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 2: one twelve, one fifty and twenty twenty four and then

1376
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: one oh seven this year. Guys aren't going to be

1377
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty five innings like they used to be.

1378
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 2: But man, you've got to be in that one fifty

1379
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: to one seventy five range, and he's done it once

1380
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 2: in his four year career. So if you're making an

1381
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 2: argument to trade Hunter Green, and that argument is we're

1382
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 2: selling high, I do think that's the precipice of that argument.

1383
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: But you're also selling on a guy that the last

1384
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 2: two years as era has been two seventy five and

1385
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: two seventy six. It's hard to give up a guy

1386
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: sub three. It's just hard. Finding those guys is a challenge,

1387
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: and giving up on them when you have them under

1388
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 2: reasonable team control, reasonable team contract until twenty twenty nine,

1389
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 2: that's a hard sell, man, It's a hard sell.

1390
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 24: Hate Chad Hey tarn I no Hunter Green's not going anywhere.

1391
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 24: I saw that GARBAGEHN line too. Here's a rule I'd

1392
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 24: like to see change next year. If a batter gets

1393
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 24: drilled by a pitch, you can put in a free

1394
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 24: pinch runner that doesn't account as a roster move. Just

1395
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 24: for that conclusion of that.

1396
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 4: At bat, What do you think?

1397
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 2: I don't hate it.

1398
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 12: I like it.

1399
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: I don't hate it. It's not a bad idea.

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 4: I get.

1401
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: If I get hitting the ribs, I might need five

1402
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: minutes to go over to the bench, get back in

1403
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 2: the clubhouse and get myself back on track. I don't

1404
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 2: hate that idea.

1405
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 25: Last one, when u QB can't make a ree, who

1406
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 25: you gonna call Joe Flecko? When number six keeps throwing pigs?

1407
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 25: I say, who are you gonna call Joe Flecko? I

1408
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 25: ain't afraid of Joe Flacot, miss TONI that's good.

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01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 4: That was good.

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01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 2: I could sense pretty quickly where that was going and

1411
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: it was still funny, right Like, That's that's the key

1412
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 2: to being funny, right Tarren? Like I knew where he

1413
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: was headed and he's still delivered.

1414
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 4: That was good. I left you my likee one say

1415
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 4: that one for the last one.

1416
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 16: Just for you.

1417
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Let's take a break. You want to

1418
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 2: hear from Joe Flakka when we get back to you. Sure,

1419
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: all right, more after this. Since the thirty sixty right

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Speaker 2: here on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 9: You've been listening to Football in the Natti on ESPN

1422
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 9: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 4: This is the story.

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01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 15: They act, one of those.

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01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: Roller right along our number two. Good show so far today,

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01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get to an hour number

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01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: three as well. Bengals and Packers, Bearcats and Knights NFL.

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01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: This weekend college football, this weekend we have we still

1429
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 2: have a lot to talk about. Phone lines will be

1430
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: open for the entirety of our number three as well.

1431
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: But Joe Flacco talk to the media today, Let's get

1432
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 2: to that.

1433
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 26: A little bit chaotic, head spinning a little bit, but

1434
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 26: just trying to come in here and have an open

1435
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 26: mind and you know, figure out what we got going on.

1436
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 2: So how much would you were going to do offensive

1437
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:41,879
Speaker 2: exactly wants to do offensively?

1438
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 4: Do you think you got in this.

1439
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 23: Week for yourself?

1440
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 11: How much of our game plan do I feel like?

1441
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 11: Do I feel comfortable?

1442
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 26: With I think he's done a good job of kind

1443
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 26: of being able to figure out what direction to go,

1444
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 26: and I feel like I've done a good job. I mean,

1445
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 26: it's it's a little bit different to call because some

1446
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 26: of the terminology is a little bit different.

1447
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 11: I think that's the.

1448
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 26: Biggest issue, is just kind of making sure I get

1449
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 26: in and out of the huddle the way I want to.

1450
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 26: I think once I break the huddle, I feel pretty comfortable.

1451
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 26: It's just a matter of getting in and out of

1452
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 26: the huddle, and you know, just continuing over the next

1453
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 26: couple of days to make sure I can get even

1454
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 26: better at that.

1455
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 4: On Tuesday.

1456
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 11: A crazy business.

1457
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 26: You know, you have to be ready for anything. That's

1458
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:30,799
Speaker 26: That's kind of what it was. Uh, you know, definitely

1459
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 26: didn't have this all my list of things that were,

1460
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 26: you know, going to happen. So, but hey, that's this

1461
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 26: league and and and I'm a player. Uh, I think

1462
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 26: most players would say the same thing. I mean, you know,

1463
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 26: I like to play football, and if that's in Cincinnati

1464
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 26: right now, then you know, I'm all for it.

1465
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 4: You need to play.

1466
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 10: And the rest of the weapons.

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01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 26: Yeah, well, obviously, I mean everybody you know can see

1468
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 26: that they've done throughout their careers and the kind of

1469
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 26: players they are. I think it's exciting for anybody to

1470
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 26: kind of go out and see them play. So when

1471
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 26: you're the guy who gets to throw to them, it's

1472
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:09,879
Speaker 26: just another level.

1473
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: Whether it's the game plan, logistics, new phases.

1474
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 4: What's the biggest challenge this week?

1475
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 26: Well, the biggest challenge is probably still just the Green

1476
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 26: Bay Packers, you know, and the team that they have.

1477
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 26: They're a confident team that plays good football and you know,

1478
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 26: I think all the other stuff, you know, you can

1479
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 26: use as an excuse, but we still have to go

1480
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 26: play a football game on Sunday and they're the ones

1481
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 26: that stand in front of us.

1482
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 25: That you played them only a couple of weeks ago

1483
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 25: when they wanted to get one more game on tape.

1484
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 26: Since then, yeah, yeah, I mean there's probably a little

1485
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 26: bit of a it's probably a little bit helpful the

1486
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 26: fact that you've been able to watch them on film

1487
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 26: and and kind of see what they do and then

1488
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 26: actually go out and play against them and you know,

1489
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 26: kind of see how physical they are and and all

1490
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 26: that stuff.

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01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 11: I still think just like any other any.

1492
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,799
Speaker 26: Other football game, though, it's it's about kind of focusing

1493
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 26: on ourselves and what we can do best.

1494
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 27: I've said I've been around a long time like you have,

1495
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 27: like to use the expression I know all the answers,

1496
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 27: So I know most of the answers. How does that

1497
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 27: help you coming into a situation like this when you

1498
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,919
Speaker 27: see so many things but have to process the comparial.

1499
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 26: I think in this kind of environment, and in this

1500
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 26: situation particularly, I think, honestly, I can get in trouble

1501
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 26: kind of thinking I know everything.

1502
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 11: I think the best way for me to do is

1503
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 11: is just keep simple, keep it simple, you know.

1504
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 26: I think a lot of the times when you're when

1505
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 26: you've played a lot of ball, and when you've been

1506
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 26: around a lot of ball, you know, you can you

1507
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 26: can get to the point where you overcomplicate things and

1508
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 26: you're just you're just making things harder on yourself. So, honestly,

1509
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 26: I think my experience in this, in this regard is

1510
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 26: is going to help me in the sense that I

1511
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 26: don't have all the answers. Just keep it simple, go

1512
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 26: play football, and and you know, and and and I

1513
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 26: think that's the best way to kind of make sure

1514
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 26: that we play consistently, stay ahead of the chain, and

1515
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 26: do all those things.

1516
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 2: What was the car ride down like with Zach kind

1517
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: of on that phone call.

1518
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 11: It was good. I mean I was tired.

1519
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 26: You know, I would have drove down myself, but they

1520
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 26: were nice enough to kind of take us down with me,

1521
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 26: and Zack got on the phone with me a little bit,

1522
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 26: just kind of going over some of the basic things

1523
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 26: that they had kind of have kind of had in

1524
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 26: for for this week, and then honestly I kind of

1525
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 26: like crashed a little bit, like with my wife next

1526
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 26: to me, and just got a little bit of rest.

1527
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 26: You know, we just got back from London, and like

1528
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 26: waking up is easy, but like at eight o'clock, I

1529
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 26: was like hitting the wall. So it was nice to

1530
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 26: be able to just kind of get a little bit

1531
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 26: of rest on the drive.

1532
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 27: After talking to him for a little while, did you

1533
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 27: and your wife have a moment where you looked at

1534
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 27: each other like, what does this actually happen?

1535
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 11: I think the last couple of weeks we've we've had

1536
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 11: those moments.

1537
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 10: You know.

1538
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 26: A lot of the times when you're going through things

1539
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 26: as a player, you just adapt, you go with it.

1540
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 11: I think that's it.

1541
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 26: I think with everything in life, when things happen to you,

1542
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 26: you just like, all right, how do we get how

1543
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 26: do we go forward? What's the next step? And you

1544
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 26: don't it doesn't really hit you too hard. But the

1545
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 26: people that care about you, they almost wear it on

1546
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 26: their sleeve, all these different emotions, more than you do.

1547
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 26: And I think that's how it's been over the last

1548
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 26: couple of weeks. So honestly, like when this ended up happening,

1549
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 26: I think there was a little bit of excitement from

1550
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 26: her and yeah, we sure we looked at each other

1551
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 26: and we're like, you know, what the hell, but you

1552
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 26: could see I think it was ultimately excitement on you

1553
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 26: know what the future holds.

1554
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 4: Joe.

1555
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 13: It's very very early in the season still week six.

1556
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 17: Do you feel like you're stepping in a situation where

1557
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 17: you can be a guy that can help this team

1558
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 17: stay in a playoff picture?

1559
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 11: In that playoff conversation, I sure hope.

1560
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 26: So that's what I played for, is to win football

1561
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 26: games and help everybody be at their best. And you know,

1562
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 26: I hope if I can come in here and give

1563
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 26: these guys my best and you know, elevate us as

1564
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 26: much as I as I possibly can, and you know,

1565
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 26: see if we can win a few football games before.

1566
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 16: You just trade it.

1567
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 21: It's another to find out right away that you're starting

1568
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 21: five days from that.

1569
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 4: But what's that like? What it's the first thing that

1570
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 4: pops in your head.

1571
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, you honestly just had.

1572
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 26: Like I said, it goes back to just I think

1573
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 26: my personality probably ends up helping me here. But you

1574
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 26: just kind of have to go with it and embrace

1575
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 26: whatever it is and meet it head on. And then also,

1576
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 26: like when you when you're in these situations, it's a

1577
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 26: good reminder of the fact that we get to play

1578
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 26: a game for a living and you know, try not

1579
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 26: It makes it almost a little bit easier to not

1580
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 26: make it bigger than it actually is.

1581
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 8: So eighteen years in Super Bowl MVP, plenty of money

1582
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 8: in the bank, young family, Why are you still doing

1583
01:28:58,439 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 8: this at forty?

1584
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 26: It's always a c I get that question so much,

1585
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 26: especially before this season.

1586
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 11: But I just feel like I have like a lot

1587
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 11: to offer to a football team.

1588
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 26: I feel like I've put in a lot of work

1589
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 26: my whole life to get to this point in just

1590
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 26: terms of playing in the NFL in general, and I

1591
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 26: have a I hopefully will have a long life when

1592
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 26: I'm done. But you only get a chance to play

1593
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 26: in the NFL once, and I feel like I've worked

1594
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 26: really hard, like I said, to be a guy that

1595
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 26: gets to play in the NFL, and I don't want

1596
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 26: to take that for granted. I still feel like I

1597
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 26: can play the game at a high level, and I

1598
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 26: want to be able to look at myself in the

1599
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 26: mirror when I'm fifty years old and be able to

1600
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 26: say that, you know, I gave it everything I had.

1601
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 8: So I spoke to somebody that I spoke to, somebody

1602
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 8: that's dealt with you offer over the years. He said,

1603
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 8: it was his impression you loved the game more than ever.

1604
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 11: Is that. I think there's things that I don't know.

1605
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 26: I don't know if it's true or not, because it's

1606
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 26: you know, I honestly never really think about it as

1607
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 26: like a love for the game and this and that,

1608
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 26: like it's it's part of who I am. And I

1609
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 26: think as you grow up and become more mature and

1610
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 26: you have certain things happen in your life, there are

1611
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 26: certain things about doing this and getting to show up

1612
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 26: into that locker room every day, you know, with a

1613
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 26: group of guys, a group of young guys. As you

1614
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 26: grow up, you just learn how to not take it

1615
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 26: for granted as much and realize that, like, how cool

1616
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 26: the situation you're in.

1617
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 4: So's all right.

1618
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 2: There you go, Joe Flacco, first time meeting with the

1619
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 2: press as a Cincinnati Bengal.

1620
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 4: Let's take a break.

1621
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 2: Our number three coming up right after this since the

1622
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 2: thirty sixty on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

1623
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1632
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Speaker 2: There we go, There we go, our number three. See

1633
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 2: what that does? Te that automatically parks me up, automatically

1634
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 2: puts me in a better mood. Let's keep this train rolling,

1635
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 2: No guess for our number three. We are clean. Our

1636
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:20,759
Speaker 2: number three brought to you by Penn Station. We'll continue

1637
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 2: some of the Bengals talk. We'll get into you you

1638
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 2: see and you see f on Saturday Tomorrow should be

1639
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 2: a picture perfect day, picture tarn. Are they gonna be

1640
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 2: cold the nights of gold. It has been a little

1641
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 2: chilly in the mornings, like by noon it should probably

1642
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 2: be fine, correct, But when they wake up at like

1643
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 2: six am, it's gonna be like forty eight degrees. They'll

1644
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:58,959
Speaker 2: get to nippered.

1645
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 11: At no.

1646
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 2: Nine thirty ten o'clock in the morning, it's gonna be chili.

1647
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 2: It was chili taking the dogs out today at ten.

1648
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 2: Those guys, don't they They freak out at the first

1649
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 2: thought of cold weather.

1650
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 4: Tearn Oh, trust me, I know.

1651
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 2: I think it was South Florida. I don't know, probably

1652
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 2: eight ten years ago. They came here for a game

1653
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 2: and it was literally like fifty two degrees and they

1654
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:35,839
Speaker 2: had the jet heaters on the sidelines and the bubble coats,

1655
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 2: like freezing cold. I remember this. When I was in

1656
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 2: LA people would come up. We lived by the beach,

1657
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 2: so you got that like beach air, right which at

1658
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: night pretty chilly. People from Inland would come over and

1659
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 2: they'd be over at like you know, seven o'clock at

1660
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 2: night and it would be again like fifty two to

1661
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: fifty three degrees. They're in coats like like sock wool hats,

1662
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,560
Speaker 2: like like y'all are acting like like it's December in Cincinnati.

1663
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 2: This feels great, Like we live for this type of weather.

1664
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see because I've seen a couple of

1665
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: those Florida teams come in here and as soon as

1666
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 2: there's a chill in the air, they want no part

1667
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 2: of it. Now again, by noon, it's gonna be fine.

1668
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 2: It'll be in the sixties. The high is going to

1669
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 2: be like seventy two. If you're a if you're a

1670
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 2: UC fan, if you're a football fan, Knippert Stadium is

1671
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 2: gonna be incredible on Saturday, incredible. Jamar Chase has an

1672
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 2: illness and is questionable for Sunday. It has to be

1673
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 2: just allergies, right, I can't imagine it's allergies, Teran. They're listening,

1674
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 2: They're they're moving him from perfectly fine to questionable for

1675
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 2: like a stuff he knows. I'm thinking, like flu, some

1676
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 2: kind of bug, something that's you know, hangs around for a.

1677
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 4: Couple of days. What was he doing?

1678
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 2: Maybe you got food poisoning.

1679
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1680
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 2: Are we gonna what can we do? Are we gonna

1681
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 2: put on our tenfoil hats? Do some conspiracy theories? Here's

1682
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 2: my I guess, here's my question, tarn. If you don't

1683
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 2: have Jamar Chase, do you just sit Joe Flacco this

1684
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 2: week and throw Jake Browning back out there?

1685
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 12: No?

1686
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 4: No, no, no, why not?

1687
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,759
Speaker 2: If you don't have Jamar Chase, you cannot You can't

1688
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 2: beat the Green Bay Packers. You can't saying TI Higgins

1689
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,759
Speaker 2: can't T Higgins just as T Higgins.

1690
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.

1691
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 2: With Joe Flacco that he's been working with for three days,

1692
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 2: four days, No, I don't. I don't think. I think

1693
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 2: it's too easy for a defense that if you don't

1694
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 2: have both of them. We have seen this before, even

1695
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 2: with Joe Burrow. When one of them's out, the defense

1696
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: just rolls coverage to the other and it makes it

1697
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 2: incredibly hard to get the ball to the other. Like,

1698
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 2: we don't know what the situation with Jamar is. All

1699
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 2: we know is Zach Taylor said he's got an illness.

1700
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: He's questionable. You know, We'll see where it goes from there.

1701
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 4: I don't know. I would.

1702
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 2: I would seriously think about it. Joe Flacco has only

1703
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 2: been here a couple of days. He definitely doesn't have

1704
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 2: a great crack grasp of the playbook. If you don't

1705
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 2: have Jamar, you can't win that game. I'd sit him.

1706
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 2: It's sit him, Brian, and for Thomas.

1707
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 17: Brian.

1708
01:36:59,200 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 4: Did you do so?

1709
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 2: I'm good, you're feeling okay. You didn't come down with

1710
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 2: anything last night? We're good?

1711
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 15: Oh, I'm good.

1712
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 10: I was back.

1713
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 15: I didn't really, I'm old.

1714
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 11: I'd go out and do.

1715
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 15: Kind of like you.

1716
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't go anywhere. I couldn't tell you the

1717
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 2: last time I've been to a bar at the Holy Grail.

1718
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,560
Speaker 2: I go to the Holy Grail for watch parties. I

1719
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 2: don't drink at the Holy Grail. So yeah, I'm like you,

1720
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,839
Speaker 2: I just leave me at home. I'm grumpy.

1721
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 15: Yeah, I just drink it. I drink at home like

1722
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 15: a like an.

1723
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 2: Adult, like a normal human.

1724
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1725
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 15: Yeah, So I'm calling about the Bangles. I've heard one

1726
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 15: of the talkbacks that said pretty much they have no

1727
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 15: hope and like, what.

1728
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 17: Are we doing?

1729
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 15: And I couldn't agree more. I'm sorry, But Joe Flacco,

1730
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 15: he can't block, or he can't run the ball, he

1731
01:37:55,160 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 15: can't rush the passer. So I mean, I don't care

1732
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,759
Speaker 15: if Jamar Chase is healthy or not. They have no chance.

1733
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 15: I would if I was a gambling man, I would

1734
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 15: be a lot of money that they did not cover

1735
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 15: in Green Bay. There's no way They've been horrific. And

1736
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,600
Speaker 15: you know the reason Jake Browning is much worse is

1737
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 15: a team is much worse than it was two years ago.

1738
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 15: I just I think as a Bengals fan, I'm just

1739
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 15: looking for them, honestly, I want them to do horrible

1740
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 15: because I want this magine gone. I think Zach has

1741
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 15: lost his he's lost it, and I just don't think

1742
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:37,759
Speaker 15: the team has I don't think the team's well coached.

1743
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 15: I don't think it's well managed. I don't think it's

1744
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 15: well designed. I don't have any hopless fans other than

1745
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 15: hopefully we can get this regime out and get someone

1746
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 15: in here that can do a better job.

1747
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I get where you're coming from. I can't say,

1748
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 2: unfortunately that I dis agree with you. Like I know

1749
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. I like Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor was was

1750
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 2: very useful and helpful to me when he was the

1751
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 2: quarterback coach at Cincinnati. But remember, Brian, this is also

1752
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 2: a coach. That coach that ran UC's offense was pretty

1753
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 2: much given cart blanche to UC's offense by Tommy Tumberville.

1754
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 2: Tommy Tubberville was more of a defensive coach. He let

1755
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor run the offense. They went thirteen quarters without

1756
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: a touchdown. I was joking on Monday with Moe and Tony.

1757
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 2: They were talking about the Bengals had gone before those

1758
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 2: late touchdowns last week, they had gone nineteen drives without

1759
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 2: a touchdown. At nineteen drives, that's it. I watched thirteen quarters,

1760
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 2: four plus games that the Cincinnati offense did not score

1761
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 2: a touchdown when Zach Taylor was calling place.

1762
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 15: I like Zach of the person, seems like a great guy.

1763
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 4: I'm just no doubt about can't confirm.

1764
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 15: But this isn't about being a great guy. It's about

1765
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 15: the team not being disciplined. I mean, they can't line

1766
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,560
Speaker 15: up and what was that defensive play? Why would a

1767
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 15: defensive end hey, uh, guarded the port of the top

1768
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 15: five tight in the league. What are we doing? That

1769
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 15: is asking And that's how it comes back to coaching.

1770
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 15: I don't. I don't get it like this.

1771
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 12: It's hopeless.

1772
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 15: Like any Cincinnati fan that thinks that we have hope

1773
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 15: for this season, they're smoking something that I probably need.

1774
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I think Zach's a good head coach.

1775
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 2: But I think his humorous I think his ego for

1776
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 2: not being willing to give up the reigns of the

1777
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 2: offense is going to be ultimately be his downfall. I

1778
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 2: think the things that are required to be a good

1779
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 2: head coach, I think he's good at a lot of

1780
01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 2: those things. Up until where we're at right now, guys

1781
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 2: have always played hard for him, They've always had his back.

1782
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 2: Effort has never really been an issue. Talent might have

1783
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 2: been an issue, but effort was never really an issue.

1784
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 2: There have been times over the past three weeks where

1785
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 2: it almost felt like they quit. They just said that

1786
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 2: will get them next week, and and that's a bad

1787
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 2: sign for a guy whose strength has been keeping the

1788
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 2: locker room together. Yeah, but he's never been a good

1789
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 2: offensive play caller. He's never been a good offensive play caller,

1790
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 2: and he thinks he is.

1791
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 15: No, he's not. I mean, well, what's the one play

1792
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 15: where if the Titan comes across goings going the right.

1793
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 15: They always run the power every single time, and it's

1794
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 15: like it's been made fun of on TikTok, like if

1795
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 15: they if this offense does this, this is the play

1796
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 15: they always run, and they always run it. I mean,

1797
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 15: so it's given me a break, Like we're we're not

1798
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 15: trying to put our guys in the situation to do better,

1799
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 15: like to be highly successful. Like like you can't, like

1800
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 15: we don't have an offensive line that you can just

1801
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 15: line up and take. We're gonna run the bright we're goners.

1802
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 15: Like some teams can do that for sure, and they

1803
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 15: it doesn't matter if you know it's coming or not.

1804
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 15: They're not. But those are teams that are have their

1805
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 15: offensive line they can do.

1806
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 2: That well, Brian, they built they built an offensive line

1807
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 2: of pass blockers, right, Like that's that's the strength of

1808
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 2: almost everybody on that offensive line is pass blocking. To

1809
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 2: try to keep Joe Burrow upright, that hasn't worked either.

1810
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 2: But you're not gonna be a great run the football

1811
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 2: power offense if all of the linemen you have are

1812
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 2: their specialties are pass blocking, You're not going to be

1813
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 2: a good run blocking team.

1814
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 15: It's it's mad, and why wouldn't we have a more

1815
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:54,520
Speaker 15: balanced team that does run the ball, you know, consistently,

1816
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 15: not put everything on their shoulders where we can get

1817
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 15: Jogger to have a good game. We can is hey,

1818
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 15: we can run the ball, you know, or at least

1819
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 15: like the defenses don't even have to play the run.

1820
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:09,560
Speaker 15: They can play light boxes all the time and not

1821
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 15: worry about it. It's just steel too bracket.

1822
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 2: You know, they stop light boxes.

1823
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 15: Yeah, white boxes. Still, I mean, they can't run the ball.

1824
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 2: Again, there can be five guys in the box and

1825
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 2: they still can't really run the ball.

1826
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 15: And it's just like I don't understand the construction of

1827
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 15: the team. Like that's what I'm like, Why would he

1828
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,759
Speaker 15: construct the team? Look at how Super Bowl teams are built,

1829
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 15: the dynasties, and they're built on a strong defense, a

1830
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 15: strong offensive line, a great quarterback.

1831
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1832
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean I said for a while, I don't have

1833
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 2: a personal vendetta against Duke Tobin, but I don't think

1834
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin is good at his job.

1835
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 12: No.

1836
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 15: I mean I think I think the cook and the

1837
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 15: chef really need to move off.

1838
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1839
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I don't think the Brown family is gonna do it.

1840
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 15: I got one positive thing for you though. I got

1841
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 15: a baby bearcat up at CCM right now, the freshman. Yeah,

1842
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 15: I know what disciplined as well he is. He is

1843
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:12,679
Speaker 15: in film production.

1844
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 4: Nice.

1845
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm very very proud of him. But yeah, it's

1846
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 15: it's really hard to be a Cincinnati a fan right now,

1847
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 15: and like it's supposed to be escaped, but it's not.

1848
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 15: It's like it's like worse in real life, which that's

1849
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 15: not what it is supposed to be.

1850
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 2: Brand I got four names. I got four names for you, okay, sure,

1851
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 2: Brendan Soresby, Joe Royer, Dante Corleone, Jake Goldey, go go,

1852
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 2: go go, put your effort and energy into the team

1853
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 2: that's trying to be good.

1854
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1855
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 15: No, I I agree since that I'm I'm there, I'm

1856
01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:58,679
Speaker 15: I'm just I'm just sad.

1857
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 2: I know, I get it. I could always Have you

1858
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 2: ever heard my philosophy on the Bengals since about twenty sixteen, No,

1859
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 2: I haven't. I used to watch the Bengals as a drama, okay.

1860
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 2: And what that means is like, you know when you

1861
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 2: watch a drama on TV, when the episode ends, you're

1862
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 2: like waiting for the next episode, right, Like it doesn't

1863
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 2: even have to be a cliffhanger. You're like, man, I can't.

1864
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 2: This is the old days, like when we had to

1865
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 2: watch TV like normal people, Like once a week. I

1866
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 2: had to wait for Tuesday to watch your favorite episode

1867
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 2: or your favorite.

1868
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 4: Show or whatever.

1869
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 2: Dramas like they build week to week to week all

1870
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 2: the way to the season finale, and then you get

1871
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 2: the off season and then you wait for the next

1872
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 2: season and like you're caught up. You're bought in with

1873
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 2: every episode. I watch the Bengals now as a comedy.

1874
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is like when you

1875
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:55,679
Speaker 2: watch a comedy, when it's over, you don't really think

1876
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 2: about that comedy again until you see it next week.

1877
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 2: You just laugh, something bad happens, you laugh, the show ends,

1878
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 2: and you go, all right, I'm gonna go about my day.

1879
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 2: That's why I watch the Bengals now, because they're not

1880
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 2: worth the stress of watching a drama.

1881
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 10: Well.

1882
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 15: The thing is that really is like I know, like

1883
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 15: this opportunity to have that dude behind under center, Yeah,

1884
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 15: chance to wear a Super Bowl this is this is

1885
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 15: our window to have a parade, be drunk for a week.

1886
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 4: I mean, just just thorn it, like I mean, just

1887
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 4: the responsibly drunk for a week.

1888
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 15: Yes, yes, I'm kidding.

1889
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 4: I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

1890
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:39,679
Speaker 15: The city would just party and it would be there's

1891
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 15: a Stuart moment for the entire trict, the area. And

1892
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 15: then now if Joe leaves or we don't wear title,

1893
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 15: I don't think I can be a fan like. I

1894
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:53,839
Speaker 15: really don't think I could ever like actually have emotional

1895
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 15: investment in this. And it stinks because I'm I'm a

1896
01:46:56,680 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 15: wifelong just that Evan, and this is our chance and

1897
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 15: then we just screwed up.

1898
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:03,760
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, man, I gotta get out of here.

1899
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 2: But uh, I appreciate the call, and uh I hope

1900
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 2: you have a good Saturday. I hope you have a

1901
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 2: good Saturday, because I'm afraid Sunday is not gonna be

1902
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 2: a lot of fun a great Saturday, all right, Brian,

1903
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 2: thanks man, Just take a break. Phone lines are open.

1904
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Give me a call five one, three, seven thirty. More

1905
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 2: after this on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

1906
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 17: Now your chance to win at Balansti is back on

1907
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 17: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

1908
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 2: It's just a Bengals theme song for Sunday.

1909
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 4: Tarrn. Yes, it ain't all good.

1910
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 2: That's the truth. It's all on Duke. Wow, I just

1911
01:47:54,200 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 2: went there. It's all on Duke. What the Bengals see.

1912
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 2: I can make a whole parody out of this.

1913
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 4: Darn.

1914
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, she might. I can't sing like Shaka though.

1915
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 28: All on DUDEO oh man, I'm having too much fun.

1916
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's take it. We'll spend most of the

1917
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 2: last half hour talking about the Bearcats and a little

1918
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 2: bit of college football. Let's run through the NFL slate.

1919
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 2: Real quick. Eagles dominated by the Giants last night, especially

1920
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 2: in the second half, fourteen unanswered after halftime, thirty four

1921
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 2: to seventeen. Giants win. Giants two and four, Eagles four

1922
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 2: and two. We got a London game Denver and the

1923
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 2: Jets nine the NFL network.

1924
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 4: Woof. I'm done with I'm done with international games.

1925
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 2: You don't like nine thirty on Sunday morning having a game.

1926
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't.

1927
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 6: I didn't did my two weeks in the road, and

1928
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 6: I said to play overseas is you're out.

1929
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 4: You're out. I'm good for in national games for the year.

1930
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 4: I'm all right.

1931
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 2: Arizona at Indy one o'clock. Uh, Our guy, Alec Pierce

1932
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 2: back for the Colts, has had a concussion for a

1933
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. But uh, but he is back this week.

1934
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 2: I think Indy, I think Indie rolls there easily. Uh,

1935
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 2: the Chargers and the Dolphins in Miami, it's not it's

1936
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,759
Speaker 2: always tough for those West Coast teams to come east

1937
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:42,879
Speaker 2: and play at one o'clock.

1938
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 4: But Dolphins.

1939
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 2: But Miami's bad and the Chargers look pretty good. Like

1940
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:50,799
Speaker 2: Chargers might be right there near the top of the AFC.

1941
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 2: Well not like Space all last week, I know, but

1942
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:57,520
Speaker 2: just in gen like the Chiefs. The Chiefs are struggling,

1943
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 2: the the the Ravens are struggling. Buffalo doesn't look invincible,

1944
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 2: like the Chargers look as good as anybody they kill.

1945
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 4: Miami, I think so coming off with a bad loss

1946
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 4: last year.

1947
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a great week, man. There's not a

1948
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:16,879
Speaker 2: lot of intriguing games. H New England and New Orleans.

1949
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 2: The Saints are booty. Uh so give me give me

1950
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 2: the Pats there, Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Cleveland doesn't have Joe

1951
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 2: Flacco anymore.

1952
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 4: Welcome today Seaton with Dylan Gabriel. This is your introduction. Yeah,

1953
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:32,680
Speaker 4: he struggles big time.

1954
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 2: Dallas and Carolina. The Cowboys look pretty good despite real

1955
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:40,680
Speaker 2: dad over revenge game. Maybe maybe who you got?

1956
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 4: I got the Cowboys want Cowboys though.

1957
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 2: Seattle and Jacksonville. Jacksonville looked awful and still managed to

1958
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 2: be Kansas City not awful, but they didn't look great

1959
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 2: and still managed to beat Kansas City. I think they

1960
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 2: take care of Seattle at home.

1961
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 6: Oh, Jacksonville apolicy. I've written them off after that bad

1962
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 6: loss when they lost here? What did Jake Brown? It's

1963
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence, like four and one?

1964
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 5: I know, I know.

1965
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 2: I don't think he's any good though.

1966
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 4: Did you say that he's four and one?

1967
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 28: I know?

1968
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 2: Did you watch him play?

1969
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 10: I did?

1970
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 6: But that play was amazing. Get on the ground, spin twice.

1971
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: Sounded it was like a line dance. Everybody spin.

1972
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 4: I get Sam Darnolds, get a win here.

1973
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 2: We've got the Rams at Baltimore, Lamore, No, Lamar, Baltimore

1974
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 2: can fall to one and five be the end of

1975
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:37,759
Speaker 2: Baltimore this year. I got the Rams, Yeah, no, Lamar, Yeah, easily.

1976
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 2: The Rams Tennessee in Vegas, Uh the dumpster fire. Go

1977
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 2: Trey Tucker. Let's get some trade Tucker touchdowns.

1978
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,600
Speaker 4: Not with Gino Smith on him, I know, but give me.

1979
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 2: Some trade Tucker touchdowns. San Francisco at Tampa Bay. That's

1980
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 2: at least an interesting one. But I like Tampa Bay.

1981
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 2: There there what a three and a half point favorite,

1982
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 2: Baker MVP. He might be Josh Allen's not playing great,

1983
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 2: Lamar's hurt, my homes is is out? Burrow or is is? Yeah,

1984
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 2: Burrow is out. I'll take Baker MVP. The Jeeves here

1985
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 2: Sunday Night could could end up in another situation where

1986
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 2: uh oh at two and five or two and four,

1987
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 2: excuse me, uh they get the Lions in Kansas City.

1988
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 2: Give me Detroit. Detroit is better.

1989
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 4: To favor.

1990
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 2: I'm not sure because I guess because it's an arrowhead.

1991
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I can come up with.

1992
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:41,719
Speaker 4: Vegas knows something, Vegas knows I'm not. I'm going with Lions,

1993
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 4: but I'm not touching this game, okay.

1994
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:47,480
Speaker 2: And then a pair of Monday night games Buffalo and Atlanta.

1995
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 2: Buffalo four and a half point favorite here, I think

1996
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 2: they cover easy, easily, even on the road. And then

1997
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 2: Chicago at Washington. Washington a four and a half point

1998
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 2: favorite that seems low like I think both of these

1999
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 2: Monday Night games got a chance to be snoozers, don't

2000
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 2: you be it?

2001
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:05,679
Speaker 4: Ugly?

2002
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm still not believer in Taylor Williams sorry.

2003
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2004
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 2: And Jade Daniels, Yes, believer, believer and he has Juju

2005
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 2: Watkins on his own.

2006
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2007
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:18,799
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. We'll talk some bearcats

2008
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 2: when we come back. Like I said, phone line still

2009
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,840
Speaker 2: open five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty if

2010
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:24,679
Speaker 2: you want to talk bearcats, if you got any questions

2011
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 2: about tomorrow, we'll be back right after this. This is

2012
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 2: since he three to sixty, a service of Penn Station.

2013
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 8: This is Dan Horror joined Dave Lapham and me this

2014
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 8: afternoon at three for Bengals PEP rally on the official

2015
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,599
Speaker 8: home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

2016
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 2: Trying to trick me. What are we doing?

2017
01:53:53,360 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 4: If I got cut off? Guard on multitasking? Here wrong,

2018
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:02,680
Speaker 4: bumper start, it's over?

2019
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 2: You want you want to try it again? You want three?

2020
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 2: Let's try this A three two one? No, already yet? Okay?

2021
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 4: Perfect? There we there we, there we go.

2022
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:20,600
Speaker 2: Not that I don't like the Eagles, like I like

2023
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 2: the Eagles, It's just not the aesthetic of this show.

2024
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 2: Dance party Friday is the aesthetic of this show come from.

2025
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 4: Don't more angles.

2026
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 23: UH.

2027
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 2: Final injury report before Sunday is out.

2028
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 28: UH.

2029
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 2: As we have talked about Jamar Chase now listed as

2030
01:54:55,480 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 2: questionable with an illness. Dylan Fairchild questionable he was limited

2031
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 2: in practice today. Matt Lee did not practice today. Backup

2032
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 2: center he is questionable. UH. Lucas Patrick went full today,

2033
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 2: still listed as questionable, but UH generally he's had He's

2034
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 2: had two full days in a row, so things look

2035
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,839
Speaker 2: good for Lucas Patrick to UH to be back and active.

2036
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 2: And Shamar Stewart has been limited all week with an ankle.

2037
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 2: He is listed as doubtful. Boy A notine hundred percent.

2038
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase in this situation.

2039
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 4: Oh boy.

2040
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 2: Boy, I think he'll be all right. I'll think he plays,

2041
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 2: he might play, but but I can't think. I can't

2042
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 2: think he's going to be one hundred percent. So a

2043
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 2: four hour bo hopefully, hopefully it's just a little a

2044
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 2: little stomach bug something that they can pump him with

2045
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 2: fluids and get them ready to go, because I don't

2046
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be great with Jamar Chase without Jamar Chase,

2047
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 2: but I hope we got a lot of bearcuts to

2048
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 2: talk about on Monday this Monday Show. Monday Show might

2049
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 2: be a rough one, tarn Yeah, well, at least you

2050
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 2: got to bearcase, That's what I'm saying. I hope we

2051
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 2: got a lot of good stuff to talk about about

2052
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 2: the Bearcats because this is a big one for Scott's Ciderfield.

2053
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 2: It's sneaky, a really big game for Scott's Siderfield, because

2054
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be good in these power conferences, you

2055
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 2: have got to win the games you're supposed to win.

2056
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 2: SINCNTI a double digit favorite at home over a Central

2057
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 2: Florida team that has a lot of injury concerns and

2058
01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:04,879
Speaker 2: just overall talent concerns. At court, They've got an okay defense.

2059
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 2: They get after the quarterback pretty well, but they're soft

2060
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 2: against the run and teams can put up points on

2061
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 2: them if if you don't, if your game plan is

2062
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 2: you're just gonna sit in the pocket and try to

2063
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 2: throw it all day, you're gonna have a tough time

2064
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 2: with this UCF defense. But if you're willing to run

2065
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 2: it at them, use some play action, use some things

2066
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 2: to slow down. They're for really athletic long talented defensive linemen,

2067
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:40,080
Speaker 2: you can give them a lot of trouble defensively. I

2068
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 2: don't want to see Brendan Sorosby just hanging back in

2069
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 2: the pocket patting the football because I don't think you're

2070
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:51,880
Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of opportunities to really go over

2071
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 2: the top against this pass rush. So I think you

2072
01:57:58,080 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 2: want to get it out quick, you want to run it.

2073
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 2: You want Tywee Walker and Evan Pryor, you want to

2074
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 2: lean on this offensive line, and you want to take

2075
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 2: advantage of the weaknesses that UCF allows you to take

2076
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 2: advantage of. And then it's funny because they are and

2077
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:18,880
Speaker 2: this has been kind of their mo for a little

2078
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 2: while now. On offense, they can be super explosive in

2079
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,800
Speaker 2: the run game, super explosive in the run game, but

2080
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 2: down by down, they're not like it's two yards, one yard,

2081
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 2: three yards, two yards and then they hit a big play.

2082
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 2: They're just looking for that crease to get down the field.

2083
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:45,160
Speaker 2: And Miles Montgomery, who was here for a couple of years,

2084
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 2: somebody that I loved. I was really really high on

2085
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 2: the potential of Miles Montgomery. But I think you wanted

2086
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 2: to get a little closer to home and honestly, the

2087
01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 2: situation has worked out for him, and it's worked out

2088
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 2: for someati. I think if Miles Montgomery stays last year,

2089
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 2: Cincinnati probably doesn't get Evan Pryor. And I think they're

2090
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 2: really happy with what they're getting from Evan Pryor. So

2091
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:16,120
Speaker 2: if you can limit the big play stuff for Miles Montgomery,

2092
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 2: if you can, if you can make sure he doesn't

2093
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 2: get anything over fifteen yards throughout the day, then you're

2094
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 2: gonna put a serious damper on the Central Florida offense.

2095
01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 2: And I think ideally, ideally you come out and you

2096
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 2: put them in a position where they got to throw.

2097
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,120
Speaker 2: You get up twenty one, three, twenty four to seven,

2098
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:43,600
Speaker 2: something like that, or you're putting pressure on their offense

2099
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 2: where they can't just keep handing it off, handing it off,

2100
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 2: handing it off and hoping to hit the home run.

2101
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 2: Because they're essentially they're like a baseball they're a three

2102
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 2: outcome baseball team, strikeout, walk, home run, little little bit.

2103
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 2: So control that run game early, get them off the field,

2104
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 2: couple three and outs, don't let them win field position,

2105
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 2: and then you attack that defense that wants to be aggressive.

2106
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 2: You get a nice lead early maybe middle of the

2107
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 2: second quarter, you're up by by seventeen, by twenty one,

2108
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:28,000
Speaker 2: something along those lines, and then Central Florida's gotta throw,

2109
02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 2: and if they got to throw, they're in trouble. I

2110
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 2: think the other big thing that is completely different about

2111
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 2: this team this year that was a major problem last

2112
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 2: year in the year before, is that this unit is

2113
02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:49,760
Speaker 2: now excellent on special teams. In the k Ford ratings,

2114
02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 2: Cincinnati is fourteenth in the country on special teams.

2115
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:55,600
Speaker 4: The punt game is good.

2116
02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 2: They haven't missed a field goal or an extra point.

2117
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 2: They've had a couple nice kickoff returns. Their kickoff return

2118
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 2: coverage has been good. I think they've only had two

2119
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:11,560
Speaker 2: or three punts even attempted to be returned on them

2120
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 2: all year. Max Fletcher is having a great year as

2121
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 2: a punter, averaging just under forty eight yards of kick

2122
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 2: with virtually no returns. That dog will hunt. That Iowa

2123
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 2: State game, one of the biggest plays in that game

2124
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 2: was Fletcher. Max Fletcher pinning Iowa State on the one

2125
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:39,680
Speaker 2: foot line gave Cincinnati great momentum there. So the hiring

2126
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 2: of Luke Pascal after spring football has turned out to

2127
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:47,800
Speaker 2: be a big one. But Ultimately, as long as they

2128
02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:51,680
Speaker 2: don't come out sleepwalking, as long as they don't come

2129
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 2: out flat and sloppy, I think this should should be

2130
02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:04,960
Speaker 2: a game that Cincinnati takes care of. But we've seen

2131
02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 2: this is not a new thing when you're dealing with

2132
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 2: college kids. We have seen too many teams get wins

2133
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:16,440
Speaker 2: like Cincinnati did against Kansas and Iowa State teams that

2134
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 2: are trying to be on the come up, that are

2135
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:26,120
Speaker 2: trying to go from you know, the struggling portion of

2136
02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:31,280
Speaker 2: the rebuilding for phase into the competitive portion of the

2137
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 2: rebuilding phase, and they get to this point and things

2138
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:38,040
Speaker 2: kind of go off the tracks a little bit because

2139
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:40,080
Speaker 2: they're not mentally.

2140
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:42,800
Speaker 4: In that place.

2141
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:48,080
Speaker 2: Where you snap and clear. On those two big wins,

2142
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 2: you've got the nation kind of paying attention. People are

2143
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 2: talking about Cincinnati. Now you've got to go win these

2144
02:02:57,640 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 2: next two games, starting tomorrow with Central Florida, because if

2145
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:05,200
Speaker 2: you look at the back half of the schedule, I

2146
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:12,120
Speaker 2: mean you're talking Baylor and Utah and BYU and TCU

2147
02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:16,720
Speaker 2: along with Arizona are their last five games. Those are

2148
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:18,280
Speaker 2: all gonna be tough games, Those are all gonna be

2149
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 2: close games. Those are all gonna be games that generally

2150
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:25,640
Speaker 2: are decided in the final seven to ten minutes of

2151
02:03:25,680 --> 02:03:34,680
Speaker 2: the game. So with that being said, you got to

2152
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 2: go win these two. You can't have a slip up,

2153
02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 2: either at home Saturday or next weekend still water to

2154
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 2: play Oklahoma State. You've got to be fundamentally sound. You've

2155
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 2: got to take care of the football. You've got to

2156
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:50,800
Speaker 2: stop UCF from doing the things that they do well.

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Speaker 2: And if you can do that, you get this win,

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Speaker 2: you get the next win. Now you're four to zero

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Speaker 2: in the conference, you're six and one overall, you're one

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Speaker 2: play from being undefeated, your Bowl eligible, and you can

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Speaker 2: go into this final stretch of five games just swinging away,

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Speaker 2: trying to make it to Dallas, trying to play for

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Speaker 2: a conference championship. Start Saturday at noon, Tomorrow at noon.

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Speaker 2: This team has to come out and look inspired, has

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Speaker 2: to come out and look aggressive, like they're going to

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Speaker 2: take again, just like you saw against Iowa State. That's

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Speaker 2: not saying I expect them to score on the first

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Speaker 2: five possessions as easy as they scored on the first

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Speaker 2: five possessions last week. But man, you get points on

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Speaker 2: three out of four and you keep that UCF offense

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Speaker 2: in check. I like where the chips may fall. Like

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Speaker 2: where the chips may fall. Just have to avoid the

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Speaker 2: complacency that comes from a team that has not experienced

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Speaker 2: a lot of winning together as a group. Getting those

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Speaker 2: two wins, getting some recognition and some notoriety this week.

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Speaker 2: That all goes away if you lose it home to

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Speaker 2: Central Florida. We will find out what time, what kind

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Speaker 2: of hutspah this Cincinnati team has shortly all right, final

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Speaker 2: break of the day coming up after this Cincinnati's ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 17: See it's time for since E three sixty Quick hits

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Speaker 17: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Since E three sixty continues on

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Speaker 17: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: All Right, closing this bad boy out today. A man

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Speaker 2: gotta love the fun of radio. You never know what's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen next. But uh, let's get to some college

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Speaker 2: football team. It's a pretty big weekend in college football.

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Speaker 2: Couple interesting games. Number one Ohio State against at number

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Speaker 2: seventeen Illinois.

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Speaker 4: This is at noon.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State hasn't been tested yet. They are a fourteen

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Speaker 2: and a half point favorite in this one. They look

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Speaker 2: like one of the two or three best teams in

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Speaker 2: the country without question? Can Illinois make this a game tearn.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not. I'm not a big believe for Brett

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Speaker 4: Bilma and Illinois.

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Speaker 2: I think Ohio State rules Alabama. At number fourteen Missouri

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Speaker 2: Alabama has has stormed back into relevance here. Yes, correct,

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Speaker 2: I'm interested, though they have had problems in this type

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Speaker 2: of situation of late like last year, we kept thinking, right,

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Speaker 2: we kept thinking, man, Bama's, Bama's getting back on track,

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Speaker 2: and then they'd fall on their face. Yes, am I

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Speaker 2: crazy to think that Missouri might take this game.

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Speaker 4: I think it'll be close, but I do think them

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Speaker 4: can pull it out.

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Speaker 2: I think they can pull it out.

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Speaker 6: I just I don't know if they're gonna well, I

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Speaker 6: think they will pull it out, Okay, Okay, but it'll

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Speaker 6: it'll be close.

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Speaker 2: Uh, probably the game of the day. Number seven Indiana

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Speaker 2: at number three Oregon for my money, I'm sorry if well,

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Speaker 2: we keep saying that about Indiana in these situations and

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Speaker 2: they they they they don't die. They're like a cockroach.

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Speaker 2: I think Oregon, Miami, and Ohio State are clearly the

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Speaker 2: three best teams in the country. I think this is close.

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Speaker 2: Oregon's is seven and a half point favorite. I'm tempted

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Speaker 2: here to take the points. I think Oregon wins. I

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Speaker 2: think Indiana finds a way to make it pesky all

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Speaker 2: the way.

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Speaker 4: To the end.

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Speaker 6: They're pesky. What's what's the line for a seven and

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Speaker 6: a half? Ye see, I see, I see Oregon like

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Speaker 6: getting kicking a field goal. They're making a team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but you think you you think it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: close through the game. Yes, okay, Red River Rivalry Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Texas is the youth quarterback back. We'll find out Saturday,

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Speaker 2: three point thirty ABC. They're trying to get him back

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Speaker 2: in time.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to owe you either way.

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Speaker 2: I'm Texas is just Arch doesn't look right. No, Arch

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Speaker 2: doesn't look right. All right, I'll take the Sooners too.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna wrap it up. Thanks everybody for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: Bengals pep Rally next Sincy three sixty, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Hey it's my legger. You've hurt me.

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Speaker 10: Talk