1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Well, Nick Cosmo joining us after four thirty. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 2: If you missed an interview with Alex Polchewsky, you can 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: find it on demand after the show at Kwaitclorado dot 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: com or better yet, on the Completely Free and Totally 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: Awesome iHeartRadio app. A couple other little notes really quick. 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: We are going to have Broncos Cowboys tickets to give 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: away tomorrow on the program and as well as in BCT. 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'll be able to listen to the fourth 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 3: quarter replay of not the first three quarters, as Chris 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: Thomason tried to joke about last night. He's like, you're 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: gonna reject this to the first three quarters again, We're 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: doing a replay. 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Well, we go to the fourth quarter, Chris. 14 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: We had the same thing happened yesterday when we had 15 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: Rick and Studio, because I brought it up right off 16 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: the top of the show and I said, hey, we'd 17 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: replay the fourth quarter and Rick's like, well, I mean 18 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: the whole thing or just the fourth quarter. It was like, 19 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: Dave Immediate was why would anybody want to re listen 20 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: to the first three quarters of that game? It's like, oh, yeah, 21 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: great point. Yeah, fourth quarter though. 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: Is now weird when the Department of Defense filed for 23 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: the claim on the audio to use for progations down 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: there at getme. 25 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god, wow, you are you're you're what's in 26 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: that drink? You're you're caffeine? 27 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Caffeine? Okay, get you going. 28 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: I'm being told that Adam Brody is gonna pay me 29 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: and play me in the uh interview with a Joy 30 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 3: Vampire movie. 31 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: So no where. I was hoping for Adrian Brody, but 32 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: instead I got the guy from the OC seth. I 33 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: hate that I'm laughing at that joke, but that's that. 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: You're pretty good. It's pretty good on your part. We're 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: gonna hear from the coordinators here in a second. But again, 36 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: got Broncos Cowboys tickets to give away on KWIE Sports 37 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: tomorrow as well as on Broncos Country tonight again two 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: at six o'clock to re live the experience of the 39 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: fourth quarter of the Broncos and Giants game. 40 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: All right, so this was kind of a funny moment. 41 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: Starting off the first press conference with Joe Lombardi, he 42 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: was asked about what the emphasis is for this week 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: for the Broncos. 44 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: I'll just told the guys to start doing some of 45 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: that four quarter stuff a little earlier, you know. I 46 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: mean really, when you look at it, you know, we 47 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: started slow. A lot of reasons for that. You know, 48 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 4: we had some drop passes. You know, it felt like 49 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 4: they were playing faster than us a little bit. You know, 50 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 4: we had a lot of screens that we felt were 51 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 4: set up well and watching the film, felt they were 52 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 4: set up well and just you know, didn't block the 53 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 4: perimeter like we wanted to. And you know, there's a 54 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: lot of reasons why you're moving the ball or you're 55 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: not moving the ball, and you know, think that I 56 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 4: think that we're a team that's in really good shape. 57 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: So I think that we wear down teams sometimes and 58 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: that helps. But it just comes down to you know, 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: execution and getting in a rhythm. And you know, there 60 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: are games where we've played well early and the last 61 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: couple we haven't. And uh, you know, something that we 62 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: look closely at, but I don't think there's a magic 63 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: you know, something to look at and say, hey, this 64 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 4: is if we do this, it gets fixed. I it's 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: just coming out ready to play early. And I'm not 66 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: sure that happened on Sunday, but luckily we figured it out. 67 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: I mean, he's right, there isn't one thing. You know, 68 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: you watch the game, and I think everybody's kind of 69 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: got a hand in this. It's execution, and I guess 70 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: you can get into a little bit of play calling. 71 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: There's been this sort of chicken or egg debate among 72 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: the fan base. I've noticed over the last week or 73 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: two where there are some fans that look at the 74 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: slow starts, if you will, and some of the sputtering 75 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: of the offense, and they'll blame it on play calling. Okay, 76 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: and then you say, some fans will go to the 77 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: other side and say, no, it's the quarterback. He's inaccurate. 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: And then some people say, well, no, it's it's the blocking, 79 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: it's the drops on the passes. 80 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: And I mean, in the end, really is all of it? 81 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: I can't point to the I guess the beginning of it, 82 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: like what is the Hey, if we go back to 83 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: the sourcing of it, and how can we fix the 84 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: source of all of it? There isn't one Because I 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: do think there's some good designs in what they're doing 86 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: with the play calling, it's just not being executed like 87 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: this last week's specifically, there were a lot of his blocks, 88 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: there were drop passes, bon Nix was inaccurate. 89 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: Early on in the game. 90 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: All of those things contributed to multiple three and outs. 91 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: If even one of those things gets fixed, like say 92 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: the blocking is a little better on some of those screens, 93 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: or Bonix is a little more accurate on that slant 94 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: pass that he threw that was too high for pap Ran. 95 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: I mean there's or even some of the deep passes 96 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: to Troy Franklin where he didn't throw them seven yards 97 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: out of bounds. It's like one thing after another, and 98 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: if you just sort of correct it just one of 99 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: those things, then I think we'd see a different performance altogether. 100 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: Yes, but okay, I think we have a big enough 101 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: sample size with each of these individual things that you 102 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: can say going to the well on these screenplays that 103 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: don't get blocked up don't work. And with Sean trying 104 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: to claim there was three of twelve screenplays that were successes, 105 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: it was three of twelve. Okay, Like sorry, Sean, you're wrong. 106 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: You can go and anybody can go back and verify this. 107 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: You can just go back and watch the game. It's 108 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: not difficult. 109 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: I did. It's not just just any one thing. 110 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: You're right, but we have big enough sample sizes with 111 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: these things, like, okay, if bose nervous early and making 112 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: high and out of bounds passes. 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Maybe we should run the ball early. 114 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: If the screenplays are not being blocked up properly, let's 115 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 3: delete them from the playbook and find something that does 116 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: work that can be blocked up properly until we get 117 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: this thing executed. I can get this thing executed to 118 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: that point, you know, maybe we shouldn't throw twelve passes 119 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: inside the five yard line and one run for a game. 120 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: Maybe with the running back that got you there should 121 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: get you in. Why are we getting cute in situations 122 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: we don't have to get cute in. There are a 123 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: lot of situations here that yeah, okay, all right, there's 124 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: some execution, there's some inaccuracy, those kinds of things. 125 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Well, we have a big enough sample size. 126 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: Now that we've seen that those are happening in specific situations, 127 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 3: let's eliminate those situations. 128 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: So you're saying, I guess in your opinion. 129 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: Because you are throwing sideline shots, the deep sideline shots 130 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: isn't working. 131 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: Let's take out the deep sideline shots because there's a 132 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: fingerprint to the offense. So what you're talking about is 133 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: some of the stuff that they believe is the core 134 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: of what they do. 135 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: They may believe that, but the core of what is 136 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: working is something different outside run plays like the crack 137 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: toss or working, whether it's with the QB or whether 138 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: it's with the running back. Let's treat more of that, 139 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: and you know what's gonna happen is this defense as 140 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: a just to try to take away the things that 141 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 3: are working, it's going to open up the stuff that isn't. 142 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: There's a funny kind of moment with garat Bulls on 143 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: a Tuesday way or a chance to really talk about 144 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: it very much, but he was talking about how they 145 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: tend to do a little better when they're playing backyard 146 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: football and there's. 147 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: A free this I guess, if you will, a looseness 148 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: to the way they operate. 149 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: I don't think de Sean wants that, and he definitely doesn't. 150 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: And that's been the hallmark of this team since he's 151 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: been here. It's not just a bow issue, right. It 152 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: was the same thing with us. 153 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they did operate better in the fourth quarter 154 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: when they were there. 155 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: I mean, there's more urgency and that's something that I 156 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: feel like you can find a way to inject earlier 157 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: in the game and treat it. You don't have to 158 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: treat it like you're down, but treat it like it matters, right, like, 159 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: not like it's a zero zero game and our defense 160 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: is playing great like. That's what felt frustrating on rewatch 161 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: the second time against the Giants, and of course you 162 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: watched it against the Jets it felt the same way. 163 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: It became more of this like, hey, our defense is 164 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: playing really good. Let's see what we can do. We'll 165 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: get out there, we'll you know, we'll put a couple 166 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: of things together. Oh well, we went three and out. 167 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: That's all right. Our defense is gonna stop and we'll 168 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: be right back out there on the field. That mindset's 169 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: got to change, because you're gonna get into games like this, 170 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: into games like the Chiefs coming up here soon. Teams 171 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: are going to find a way to move the ball 172 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: against your your defense. I guess what the Giants did, 173 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: and maybe you underestimated them a little bit on offense. 174 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't know defense. 175 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: I don't get the sys from Vince Joseph that he 176 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: ever underestimates anybody, Like everybody has a chance to be 177 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: good against us. We just have to execute. But I 178 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: feel like for the offensive side of the ball. And 179 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: I'm kind of tying that a little bit to what 180 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Joe Lombardi said last week when he was asked about, Hey, 181 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: the Jets were struggling, and I mean he was asked 182 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: about what they can build on for the next week 183 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: or talk about the Jets and how the Broncos defense 184 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: is playing so well against them, and I was like, man, 185 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: the offensive mindset has to change. Yeah, if your mindset 186 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: is our defense is going to bail us out. 187 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: And that's exact that's the problem. 188 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: They got conservative in that Jets game because they're like, well, 189 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: our defense has got it handle. 190 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: We can just turtle and it almost cost them. 191 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: You know, you can't excuse bad process just because you've 192 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: got good results. You look at the last three games 193 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: that Broncos had played. They needed fourth quarter bailouts to 194 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: win those games they did. You know, they needed to 195 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: come back to win those games. And you shouldn't have 196 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: to come back against the Jets. You should I mean, 197 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: the Eagles, okay, whatever, but you shouldn't have to come 198 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: back against the Jets and Giants probably not either, but 199 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: the fact that they can, there's got to be a 200 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: confidence in the fact that. 201 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: You're able to do that. But that's not sustainable. 202 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: It's not sustainable, and like multiple things, is not sustainable. 203 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: Well it was for a year. 204 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: The reason it's looked back on like that is because 205 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: it was a miracle, because it's not sustainable. 206 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: I listen, you know, I'm such a big fan. I 207 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: know height for the life of me, I can't figure out. 208 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: But but yes, I like that they know they can. 209 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: But you're right in the sense that what you'd like 210 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: to be able to do is be a little more 211 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: consistent all four quarters to a tongue of my lord, oh. 212 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: My god, oh my god, you know as well as 213 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: every press or is worse than the last. Well he 214 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: gets just to get to this yesterday. 215 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: But so, of course he was it the hot water 216 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: for like two weeks with his comments about his teammates, 217 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: throw his teammates under the bus for not putting in 218 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: the work and being on time to meetings and that 219 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: type of thing. But then yesterday, I think it was 220 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: yesterday where he was talked about why he wasn't targeting 221 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: Jalen Waddle, their star number one wide receiver. 222 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: Here's what he said. 223 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think with that some of it has to 224 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: do with being able to see guys with their guys 225 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 5: also up front and our guys and I'm not the 226 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 5: tallest guy in the back there or so being able 227 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 5: to see and then you know, sometimes when that happens, 228 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 5: you don't want to just throw it blindly. 229 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: I can't even like, can you imagine if Kyler said this? 230 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: I just applied, like can you imagine Kyler say because 231 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: he's a little bit I think he's a little. 232 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Bit tolerant Kyler, but not much. 233 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: He's six ft to a six foot even, okay, which 234 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: would make him three inches told these three three inches 235 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: tolerant Kyler. 236 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: I just I don't even as an excuse of why. 237 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: You're not throwing the football to the best player on 238 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: your team, I would say besides debout chan, I guess 239 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: I couldn't see him because hey, our offensive live offences 240 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: job their defensive life. 241 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: Those are big guys. 242 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know this, but they're 243 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: big guys that I just don't want to just throw 244 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: the ball with anticipation or anything like that. 245 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: You imagine like Russell Wilson's saying that Tyler Lockett back 246 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: in the day, Lockett, by the way, same height as 247 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle, and Russell Wilson's two inches shorter than. 248 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: It was sunning. I saw that. 249 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, on one hand, I'd love to 250 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: tell him, let's just not let's just not do these things. 251 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: Let's just say the right thing, you know, don't don't 252 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: just stop talking. 253 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 3: Never I've never sat there being like, just just to 254 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: coach speak, just saylche just. 255 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Follow Russell Wilson cliches, just say those. Yeah, this dude 256 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: is digging a hole. 257 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: He's down there, he's in he's been digging a hole, 258 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: and he's throwing the dirt back in on top. 259 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: Of himself like a one win team man. And You're like, 260 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: I can't, I can't. I just can't see Jaylen Watdell 261 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: out there. 262 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: I can't see him out there. He's john seen it. 263 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: Quickly though. Justin Fields, I don't know. 264 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 265 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: Worse well, this isn't even on Justin Fields though. This 266 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: is on their staff for not prepping him. We played 267 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: these comments a couple of days ago with Woody Johnson 268 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: slammed Justin Fields to the media out at the owners 269 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: meetings saying we can't even complete four ass and so 270 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: the Justin Fields was doing his normal media scrum, had 271 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: even heard the comments, didn't even know it existed. So 272 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: here's the back and forth justin What was the. 273 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 6: Reactions to whis comments yesterday? 274 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 7: I didn't I didn't see any comments. No, I'm not Yeah, yeah, no, 275 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 7: I'm not on you know, social media. 276 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Hearing up with the Jets. 277 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 7: But what he says, uh no, not really. 278 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 6: He's not kind to be critical when he basically said, 279 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 6: you know, if you guys think compleear past things with 280 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 6: the good year, kind of said, you know, the quarterback player, 281 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 6: the coach, I can't win with a quarterback for the 282 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 6: rain like. 283 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: They have played. 284 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 8: You want to wear it any now? 285 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 7: Nah? I wasn't. Like I said, I'm not on social media. 286 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 7: It doesn't bother me, It doesn't, you know, of course 287 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 7: everybody knows. You know, I need to be I need 288 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 7: to play better. We need to play better as a team. 289 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 7: And of course, you know, no matter how you know 290 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 7: the offense does as a unit, you know I'm gonna 291 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 7: get the blame. And I understand that that's just what 292 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 7: comes with the job. But honestly, that's what comes with it. 293 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 7: So you can't let anything kind of affect your mind, 294 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 7: my mind, and that's that's it is what it is, 295 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 7: no matter if it's you know him, no matter if 296 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 7: it's you know, family members, even teammates. Sometimes you're gonna 297 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 7: be there's gonna be times where you have to be 298 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 7: the only one who believes in yourself. So you know, 299 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 7: like I said, that's his opinion. And like I told 300 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 7: you guys after the game on Sunday, I'm at peace 301 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 7: and on focus is right now, is working each of 302 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 7: every day and getting better. 303 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: Credit to him taking a high road. But you can't 304 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: say that either. Yeah, that's true. He literally just like 305 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: I'll do tool. I can't see him down there. You 306 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: gotta cut me. You gotta cut me, Nick. You know. 307 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: Then you got justin fields. 308 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 3: Out and you're like, yeah, my own family members and 309 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: teammates don't believe in. 310 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: Me under circle now, but under the circumstances. 311 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 2: And first of all, I thought that the reporter did 312 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: a pretty decent job summing it up without adding text, 313 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: so like adding their own, like hey man. 314 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: No asked the question. 315 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 3: He did it in a respectful way, summarizing the quotes, putting. 316 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: The reporter in a kind of weird situation like, okay, well, 317 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: I got I summarize the owner of an NFL team's 318 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: words about an employee to the employee. 319 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a guy that's making thirty million dollars? 320 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: How bad it is the Jets organization that nobody came 321 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: and told Justin Fields what was said that that really 322 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: is like, we need to coach you up on an 323 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: answer for this real quick. 324 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that would never happen here like here in Denver, Well, 325 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: Patrick Smyth would be Yeah, can you imagine bo Nick's 326 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: being asked about something that the owner said, especially the negative? 327 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: But again, you know. 328 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 8: Great out there, no before the court, before Rob Walton 329 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 8: was finished giving his entire statement that you know, Patrick 330 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 8: would be in bosy or like yeah, I can't think 331 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 8: this organization is too good for that. Yeah. 332 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: But then there's the Jets that are like, we're not 333 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: even gonna we're gonna put a quarterback out there, We're 334 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: not even gonna tell him what the owner just said 335 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: that it's trending on Twitter. 336 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, thats my mind. How did Justin not. 337 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: Get texted by anybody that he said this? Like the 338 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: strings could duality that he didn't know. But at the 339 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: same time, then you turn around and you just told 340 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: the entire You just told the entire world that your 341 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: teammates and family don't believe in you as a quarterback. 342 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: You know that's tough too, Like bro, but's he seems 343 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: like a nice guy. 344 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: Why that's the thing? Like I even tweeted about that. 345 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm like justin Justin Fields. You listen to him speak 346 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: and you can't help it root for the guy, and 347 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: then you turn on the tape and to go, yeah, yeah, 348 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: you need to change positions. 349 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: We're headed out to the KWA Comma Spirit Health outline 350 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: and bringing a good friend, good friend of the program 351 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: from the Athletic Nick Cosmider. Nick, you're all with Ryan 352 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: Edwards and Benjamin Albright. How are you, my friend? 353 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 8: I'm good? How are you guys doingroo great? 354 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: Very excited about not only tonight with the Nuggets and 355 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: I definitely want to ask you a couple of questions 356 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: about that, but also of course, uh the game on Sunday. 357 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, there's gonna be a lot made 358 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: of the offense and needing to sort of carry their 359 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: weight in this one. Where do you come down on 360 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: what we've seen from the offense seven games in. 361 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think it all comes out to 362 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 8: the balance of about where they're where they're kind of 363 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 8: ranked statistic, which is which is pretty average, right, whether 364 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 8: you look at scoring, you know, epa per play, you know, 365 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 8: yards per game, it's it's all kind of in that 366 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 8: that league average kind of level. And you know that 367 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 8: that has been good enough to be five and two 368 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 8: when you have a defense that is as good as 369 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 8: this one is, when you have a quarterback who has 370 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 8: shown the ability in the moments that truly matter in 371 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 8: close games of late to get the job done. But 372 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 8: it's it's also not good enough to think that this 373 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 8: is a team that can ultimately be a championship type 374 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 8: contender as it's currently playing. And so I think that's 375 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 8: that's where some of the frustration, both externally internally comes in, 376 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 8: is that you know they have some of the right 377 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 8: stuff that can make you look at it and say, 378 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 8: especially in what appears to be a pretty open league 379 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 8: this year, uh to you know, to compete, But that 380 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 8: won't happen unless they unless they get it going. And 381 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 8: that's just kind of the urgency that that you felt 382 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 8: being around there this week. 383 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: It's all well and good when you're up against teams 384 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: like the Jets or the Giants or the Bengals post 385 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, and you're able to do that kind of stuff, 386 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: But you've got a tough slate of games cut up. 387 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 3: The Cowboys can put points on points on points, even 388 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 3: if they can't stop anybody. The Texans look like they 389 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: may be starting to figure a little something out on 390 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: offense and have a very good defense. Kansas City looks 391 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: like they're finally starting to hit their stride. You got 392 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders of Sunday Night Football, the Packers coming 393 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: up another game against the Chargers, the only two Guinea 394 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 3: games in here. It looks like the Broncos have left 395 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: of the Raiders. This thing like, if they don't get 396 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: the offense approved, could these things. 397 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Go sideways fast? 398 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 8: Yeah? I mean, and that's the thing of it, especially 399 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 8: when you look at it then and you I mean, 400 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 8: and I know you know this, but they you couldn't 401 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 8: look at that game pretty much any game it wasn't 402 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 8: the Bengals game could have gone the other direction. And 403 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 8: Garrett Bowles said in the locker room after the game 404 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 8: on Sunday, Like, you know, we know we could be 405 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 8: seven and zer right now, and that's true, but they 406 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 8: could just as easily, you know, be you know, be 407 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 8: be one and six. I wouldn't really quite put the 408 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 8: Titans game in that category. I don't think there was 409 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 8: ever any you know, real concern with that one, even 410 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 8: though they certainly did not play well. But but really, 411 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 8: let's so let's say two and five, Like you could 412 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 8: easily you know, point to that and say if some 413 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 8: of these had hadn't gone right late of late, then 414 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 8: you would be looking at that kind of record right now. 415 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 8: So absolutely, I think it's tenuous and that and that's 416 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 8: the whole thing. Like they're saying, you're not. 417 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Going to avoid close games in the NFL. 418 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 8: They're they're they're part, they're part of the league's fabric 419 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 8: like that. That's just the way it goes. But you 420 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 8: can also put yourself in better positions to where you're not, 421 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 8: you know, again, coming down to the last minute and 422 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 8: not only coming down the last minute, but having to 423 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 8: to to rally and do all these kind of like 424 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 8: out of the box things in order to even get 425 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 8: in that position. That that's that's what they have to 426 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 8: avoid because yeah, I completely agree that it's not it's 427 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 8: not sustainable to win this way if you cannot find 428 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 8: more consistency with what you're doing offensively. 429 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: But I imagine as you've been in the locker room this week, 430 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: you haven't gotten the sense from the guys that they're 431 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: they're satisfied with us either. 432 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: Oh oh no. 433 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 8: Like again, I think that's the confounding thing. Like you 434 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 8: got to a guy like like Mike McGlinchey and he 435 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 8: says like this, you know, that's that's part of the 436 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 8: frustrating thing is because we know we have we have 437 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 8: what it takes. Because when you go back and they start, 438 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 8: you know, they look at it. You know, if you 439 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 8: were just a team that never showed you know, there's 440 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 8: a lot of bad offenses in the NFL that aren't 441 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 8: showing these kind of fireworks at in stretches that the 442 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 8: Broncos have, like they're I think they're top ten and 443 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 8: explosive play rate. So it's it's not that they don't 444 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 8: have the capability. It's not that they haven't shown it 445 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 8: in stretches. It's it's the it's the inability to get 446 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 8: on a roll. Evan Ingram said, if you look, if 447 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 8: you look at it, when we when we get a 448 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 8: first down, we're really good. And the problem is they 449 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 8: they go three and out as much as almost anybody 450 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 8: in the league. And so there's that fine line of 451 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 8: like getting going. It's SEMs like once they can get 452 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 8: going on a drive, more often than not they finish it. 453 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 8: They've just had too many where they didn't get that 454 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 8: initial first down or maybe you know, the second one. 455 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 8: It's almost like once they get to the fifty, they 456 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 8: can see the goal line, they're in good position, but 457 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 8: they've just been tripping themselves up too much to find 458 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 8: that rhythm that would make them a good offense right now. 459 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it feels like that there are or it 460 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: feels to me like, I mean, I'm just a dork 461 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 3: with a microphone. 462 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: Do I really know, But. 463 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: It feels to me like there are easy fixes to 464 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. You know, if there are things 465 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 3: that aren't working, and we have large enough sample sizes 466 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: to see that they're not working, and we have things 467 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 3: that are working that we're not doing, why not just 468 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: you know, I get the oversimplification, but just switch to 469 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: the things that are working. Why aren't we running the 470 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 3: football more early. Why aren't we running the football inside 471 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 3: the five yard line? Why aren't we deleting these And 472 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: I know Sean doesn't want to talk about it, but 473 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: deleting the screenplays that aren't working or are working at 474 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: a twenty to thirty percent clip, Why aren't we just 475 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: doing higher percentage things to maximize the talent we have? 476 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 8: Well, And Joe Lombardy said when he got up to 477 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 8: the podium today on coordinator day there he was kind 478 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 8: of asked about the you know, the gap between the 479 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 8: struggles you know, in earlier parts of game versus the 480 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 8: fourth quarter, and he says, well, we've told him this 481 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 8: week we're just going to do the the fourth quarter 482 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 8: stuff early in the game. And it's it's that whole 483 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 8: like there's always a kernel of truth to to you know, 484 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 8: to a good joke, right, and that the truth part 485 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 8: of that is that while you can't play the same 486 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 8: way in terms of just like you know, up tempo 487 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 8: or whatever else, like a lot of that comeback. The 488 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 8: Giants were playing them straight because they had to, and 489 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 8: what you were finding success with was like just just 490 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 8: attacking your good one on one matchups. And I think 491 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 8: they they work so hard to kind of scheme things 492 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 8: the way that they want to that you know, like hey, 493 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 8: Corland Sutton can beat can win most of his one 494 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 8: on one matchups. Marvin Mims has shown more and more 495 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 8: that that he can win one on one matchups in 496 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 8: different ways, including like going up and getting a ball 497 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 8: for you. And they just seem to play more free 498 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 8: when that really becomes the focus, and bo is really 499 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 8: just kind of looking. 500 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: At that top read. 501 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 8: I understand you're not getting they're not getting a ton 502 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 8: of one on one looks all the time. But again, 503 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 8: I just think that they need to simplify things earlier 504 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 8: in the game versus you know, waiting to get down 505 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 8: and then just kind of going out and making place. 506 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: Nick Cosmoner from the Athletic joining us here, let's go 507 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: to the other side of the ball here for a moment. 508 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: And I do want to talk about your article in 509 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: a second about being the most penalized team. That's an 510 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: obviously important factor in all this, But just a question 511 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: on the defense this Dallas Cowboys offense. I mean, as 512 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: you know, they're they're one of top two, top three 513 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: across the league. So I guess your perspective, how would 514 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: you defend them on the back end. 515 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. 516 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 8: I thought they. Joseph had an interesting point today where 517 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 8: he's saying, like, if you look at it, the Cowboys 518 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 8: when they're in their like eleven personnel, they're averaging like 519 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 8: six point two yards per carry. And that's because you know, 520 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 8: teams are having to play them, you know, kind of 521 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 8: play them high because of all the weapons that Dak 522 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 8: Prescott has and so in the Running Game, Javonte Williams 523 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 8: is getting a lot of you know, to in Vance 524 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 8: Joseph's words, a lot of clean boxes. So that that 525 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 8: is the challenge. Like once you've incorporated that balance, once 526 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 8: you've proven that you can attack down the field with 527 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 8: the weapons that they have in Ceedeelam, George Pickens, and 528 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 8: Jake Ferguson, now like now the Running Game becomes much 529 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 8: a much easier part of that question, and it starts 530 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 8: to build on itself. So you know, I heard Tella 531 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 8: know Whufanga is talking in the locker room about like 532 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 8: what they have to do really well. Advanced Josephs mentioned 533 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 8: this too, is like some of the cat and mouse 534 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 8: disguise stuff that that this defense has typically done a 535 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 8: pretty good job of of like not really giving you 536 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 8: a clean sense of what it is that they are, 537 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 8: what it is that they're bringing, you know, having the 538 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 8: late rotations, really doing it as best they can to 539 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 8: kind of mix up those looks for Dak Prescott so 540 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 8: that they're you know, maybe not showing heavy boxes, but. 541 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: Being able to come down and bring. 542 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 8: That, you know, right after the snap. 543 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: I think those are. 544 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 8: Kind of kind of be some of the interesting subplots 545 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 8: of this game on Sunday. 546 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: All right, So one more Broncos question before we ask 547 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: you about the Nuggets. Really good breakdown here on the penalties, 548 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: his horses depressing to look at it to leading the 549 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 2: NFL in yours penalized by a wide margin as you 550 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: put at five hundred and seventy five with Jacksonville d 551 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: in next of five twenty eight. It's it's stunning when 552 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: you think about this coaching staff and the at tension 553 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: to detail that you know it resides inside that building. 554 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: What do you make of it? 555 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, it really is. 556 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: I think confounding is a good word. 557 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 8: Vexing, perplexing, you know, whatever kind of words you want 558 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 8: to use for it, because as Peyton noted too, I 559 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 8: think the thing that he is clearly kind of like 560 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 8: miffed by is that it's coming from everywhere. It's not 561 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 8: just like they're having this one set of problems. And like, 562 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 8: you know, I mean in twenty twenty two they were 563 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 8: obviously heavily penalized under Nathaniel Hackett, and that thing as 564 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 8: the season went bad, like you start getting more personal 565 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 8: foulsand so that starts kind of compounding itself. But early 566 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 8: on it was just these like influx of you know, 567 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 8: crazy delay of game, pre pre snap stuff here. It's 568 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 8: just like so widespread that you know that it's a 569 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 8: little bit harder to put your put your finger on it, 570 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 8: you know. But I was talking to Evan Inger about 571 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 8: I say, hey, I know this is a hard thing 572 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 8: to ask about, right because yeah, of course they don't 573 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 8: want to be committing penalties. But his thing was like, 574 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 8: we just we have to understand that, like we cannot 575 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 8: live this way. Like it's pretty rare that you could 576 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 8: have two different games in which you're penalized twelve times 577 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 8: for one hundred and twenty plus yards and win both 578 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 8: of those games. That was Philadelphia and that was the 579 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 8: New York Giants, and you know, the Lady Luck is 580 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 8: not going to continue to shine on you if you 581 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 8: can't figure it out. So I don't have a good 582 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 8: answer as to as to how they do it. Like, 583 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 8: obviously there's technique that they look at, There's you know, 584 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 8: points of emphasis that they have in their team meetings. 585 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 8: All those things are kind of part of the the 586 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 8: gumbo of figuring this thing out. But bottom line is 587 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 8: they just have to do it because at this rate, 588 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 8: you know, it's eventually going to bite you. 589 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: You know, Nick, Yeah, I've been They've been on discipline, 590 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: second worst in the NFL in turns being pedalized. But 591 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 3: somebody who looks fairly disciplined as Jabal Murray the Nuggets, 592 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 3: looks like he's in the best shape I've seen him 593 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: and since probably drafted to the Nuggets. Nuggets tip it 594 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: off the night against Golden State Warriors. What are you 595 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: looking forward to. 596 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: In this one? 597 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think just right there, I mean, 598 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 8: no Number one, it would be him. I think that 599 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 8: that was something back, you know, back when I was 600 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 8: covering the team on a regular basis that like you, 601 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 8: you've been hearing about it's like just kind of this 602 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 8: this this hope, this this push to have Jamal Murray 603 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 8: you know, kind of show up in the kind of 604 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 8: shape that he seems to be in right now going 605 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 8: into this season. And you know, part of that again 606 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 8: has been injuries that spanned a couple off seasons and 607 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 8: some different things like that. Clearly last year there was 608 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 8: you know that there was the internal tension in the organization, 609 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 8: there was the delay of his contract. There was just 610 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 8: a lot of like funky stuff that kind of clouded 611 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 8: the start of his season. But just just the kind 612 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 8: of clear headedness from Afar that it seems that he 613 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 8: has going into this year, I think is big and 614 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 8: I want to see how that translates. And then the 615 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 8: other thing is like how much can they get Nicole 616 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 8: Yokich off of his feet this year? I think that's 617 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 8: going to be critical. You know again that we know 618 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 8: this guy is just a machine in terms of his 619 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 8: endurance and all those kinds of things. But you know, 620 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 8: he's another year older. 621 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: I think you want to have him more. 622 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 8: Fresh going into the playoffs this year than you did 623 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 8: last year. So like, you know, how much can they 624 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 8: get on his Valcunis on the floor because they can 625 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 8: kind of play a little bit more of the same way. 626 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 8: When when Jokic sits. You know, maybe that allows you 627 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 8: to kind of give him some some longer runs. You know, 628 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 8: if if this roster is overall better, maybe maybe you 629 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 8: have more leads late in games than you did last year. 630 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 8: And then again like that, the other part of that 631 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 8: test is can Adaman take a bigger picture view than 632 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 8: sometimes Mike Michael Malone did. That was such sort of 633 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 8: the criticism of just like, you know, playing guys heavy 634 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 8: minutes early in the year because you're chasing every win, 635 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 8: when hey, we know we're good enough to be where 636 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 8: we need to be in the playoffs. Let's not lose 637 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 8: sight of the you know, the forest through the trees. 638 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: Kind of thing. 639 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 8: So those are those are a few of the things 640 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 8: I'm really looking looking forward to seeing from them. 641 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. And then one thing, and 642 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: this last thing for me, I appreciate you joining us, Nick. 643 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: The chemistry thing, right, this team up until this year 644 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: was kind of the same. Course, it's not kind of 645 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: the same guys, and they knew even if they had 646 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: to play a lot of minutes, they knew what they. 647 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: Were going to be doing. 648 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: Cam Johnson now in place of Michael Porter Junior, Like 649 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 2: how does that change some of the rotations and where 650 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: you think he's going to be. And I understand that 651 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people are excited about how he's going 652 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: to be better, very a better defensive player. But there 653 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: were some nice things that Michael Porter Junior obviously did 654 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: for this team. 655 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: You know, Bruce Brown's gonna fit right like a glove. 656 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not worried. 657 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: Worried about that, but you mentioned Valanunas, you know, what's 658 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: that going to look like? So for me, like the 659 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: chemistry of things early on is going to be something 660 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: to watch. 661 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: What do you think? 662 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I one hundred percent agreed. I think as good 663 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 8: as I think a lot of people think this team is, 664 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 8: and it certainly looks like, you know, the best rosters 665 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 8: since the least their championship season in twenty three, and 666 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 8: I don't think people even thought that roster was that 667 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 8: good going into that year. You know, as good as 668 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 8: it is, I think it would be naive to not 669 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 8: think there is going to be some you know, maybe 670 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 8: some early season hiccups because of that what you said, 671 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 8: Like they've played with largely the same cast for quite 672 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 8: a while and they made some pretty big shakeups this offseason. 673 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 8: But I think you need it. I think you need 674 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 8: sort of that refresher. I mean even just look at 675 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 8: the you know, the Patriots in our sport that we cover, 676 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 8: right like, they had already won championships and then all 677 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 8: of a sudden you get a guy like with the. 678 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: Talent of Randy Moss. 679 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 8: And I know they did not add somebody of that 680 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 8: talent profile. I'm just saying, like, somebody with that kind 681 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 8: of energy that they brought in and all of a 682 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 8: sudden a team that you said you knew was a 683 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 8: championship type team but then just elevated to a different 684 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 8: level because you had this sort of spark. I'm interested 685 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 8: to see what the collective of these new guys brings 686 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 8: that kind of element to the Nuggets. But yeah, I 687 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 8: think that getting that chemistry right, figuring out rotations and 688 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 8: all those kinds of things are are going. 689 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: To be important, no doubt. Nick always appreciated man, great 690 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: reporting as always. We will talk to you soon. All right, 691 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: Well thanks a lot ni Cosmoner from the Athletic. Really 692 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: good stuff there. Ye, the article is sobering. He's a 693 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: write up that I read earlier today on penalties. 694 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: It's it just does paints a. 695 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: Picture for the Broncos where they They've got to figure 696 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: it out. 697 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: I just don't know. 698 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: I mean, there comes a point then where you are 699 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: what you are, right, I mean we joke around about 700 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: the Bill Parcell saying you are, which your record says 701 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: you are. But then if you're again most penalized team 702 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: in the league by a wide margin, as he put 703 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: it out here, five hundred and seventy five. Next closest 704 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: is Jacksonville at five twenty eight. And again we've just 705 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: watched Jacksonville out there in London, look just extremely sloppy. 706 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: They have the most defensive penalties accepted, fourth most offensive 707 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: penalties accepted, and only five teams have been penalized fewer 708 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: times on special teams than Denver six. 709 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: So all three phases are feeling this. Yeah, it's not 710 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: any one area. I mean special things is really falling 711 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: off since last year. 712 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: That's that's been an issue, you know, But there are 713 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: you know, I certainly these people that are out there 714 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: talking about conspiracies against the Broncos. 715 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: That's silly, like that's just nonsense. 716 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 3: But uh, you know, end of the day, I mean 717 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: you get penalized a lot, and I don't think that 718 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: there's too many of them that are unwarranted Riley Moss. 719 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: When you know, I would, I would put out there 720 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: as a leading candidate on that. 721 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: But a lot of these penalties are and there's there's 722 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: some that are getting away with, you know, on top 723 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: of it. So they've got to figure out a way 724 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: to be more disciplined. You got to be you know, 725 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: if you're going to do stuff, you got to you 726 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 3: got to coach it up right. There's no such thing 727 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: as legal holding. You got to be able to do it. 728 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: The pre snap penalties are a killer. What are we 729 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: doing on things you can definitely control? And so yeah, 730 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: I think there's some. I think there's definitely. 731 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: Some some penalties you'll take. 732 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: You'll take be a little aggressive early in a game 733 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: to set a tone, you know, that kind of stuff 734 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: you'll take. Buto every once in a while jumping off 735 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: side because you know, you know how good he is 736 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: and being able to tie that up. 737 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: But you can't. I mean, we just we do take 738 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: too many penalties. 739 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: And it's been the difference in games, literally the difference 740 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: in games in some and so you know that's one 741 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: of those things they really you've got to find a 742 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: way if if we're not getting through with what we've 743 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: coached so far, we've got to find a different way 744 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: to get the message through that this is unacceptable because 745 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: you're either coaching it to happen or you're allowing it 746 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: to happen. 747 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: At the end of the day. 748 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if you want to go a 749 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: little bit more of a glass half full, is is 750 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: they're they're doing all this and they're. 751 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: Still five and two. They're doing all of this. 752 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: I hate that though, because that that justifies bad process. 753 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: And I understand I'm saying from us looking on the outside, right, 754 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: we got away with it. Internally, you have to coach better, right, 755 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: you have to say that this is unacceptable and we 756 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: have to be better. Nobody wants to have to be 757 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: the most penalized team in the league. You don't even 758 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 2: want to be. You don't even penalized ever, but you 759 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: don't also don't want to be on that in that category. 760 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, the. 761 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: Margins are better for this team than they used to be. 762 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: The fact that you are able to survive. Look, I mean, 763 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: twelve was a twelve penalties for one hundred and twenty 764 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: seven this last Sunday. Yeah, twelve for one hundred and 765 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: twenty one versus the Eagles, and you won both of 766 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: those games. Historically for the Broncos, they wouldn't even be 767 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: in the same zip code of a. 768 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: Possibility for that would sink you. 769 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 770 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying so like fair, their margins are 771 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: a little wider. 772 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: But at the end of the. 773 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying that's internally you don't coach it like that, right, 774 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: I'm saying we on the outside get to say, hey, 775 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: this is something where you say, well, at least the 776 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: margins are a little better for this team. If they 777 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: can correct some of these things, maybe they win these 778 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: things a little close, you know, les close than they are. 779 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, I think the margins are a little wider. 780 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: But also you're playing opponents that I mean, the Bengals, 781 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 3: the Eagles, Okay, whatever, but I mean the Bengals, that Jets, 782 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: the Giants. These are not good football teams overall, and 783 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: you know that will eventually catch up with you when 784 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: you do play good football teams.