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Speaker 4: Thank you for summing up for me. In one sound

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Speaker 4: by Joe Tracker Brian Thomas right here, glad to be

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Speaker 4: hope you're having a wonderful day. Good to see Joe

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Speaker 4: where he belongs, right there with his finger on the

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Speaker 4: love to hear from you. Maybe you got a comment

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Speaker 4: about Police Chief Threes Thigi walking on thin ice right now,

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Speaker 4: Rumors of her being fired swirling around the city of

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Speaker 4: this morning. I have some details on that, but you

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Speaker 4: from the listeners, and I love hearing from Dan Hills,

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Speaker 4: former FOP president. We had Ken Kobra on earlier. Ken

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Speaker 4: quote in the paper responding to the claims about police

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Speaker 4: Chief three, So that Thigi being hauled into the office

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Speaker 4: and get a I don't know, a ton lashing from

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Speaker 4: we'll talk to Dan Hills about the chief being forced

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Speaker 4: I always like say six point thirty with Dan Hills

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Speaker 4: thoughts comments on the reaction with the Israel Gaza broker

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Speaker 4: and are going around murdering a bunch of Palestinians. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the very the governing body. I guess you could argue

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Speaker 4: it's still the governing body Hamas for Gaza. Not that

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Speaker 4: people voted on that, but shooting their own people, killing

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Speaker 4: their own people, winding them up and putting bullets in

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Speaker 4: news articles about that, and they're claiming that the ones

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Speaker 4: that they're killing, Hamas is killing these people because the

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Speaker 4: people that they have selected to kill were working with

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Speaker 4: the Israelis or something like that. Sounds remarkably similar to

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Speaker 4: our hasty withdraw from Afghanistan, leaving a lot of the

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Speaker 4: Afghanistan folks who had actually helped us during our occupation there, well,

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Speaker 4: leaving them to a questionable future. I'm sure a lot

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Speaker 4: of them didn't quite make it out of that same

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Speaker 4: thing going on right now. So Andre Ewing the return

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Speaker 4: at my watch like jeesus, twenty after eight. I gotta

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Speaker 4: get going. And that's when I realized I got a

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Speaker 4: text message from Andrea Ewing. Curse Breakers three hundred. Andrea

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Speaker 4: Ewing brother Dre, he refers to himself as well, return

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Speaker 4: of the Morning Show. He's an outspoken former police officer,

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Speaker 4: retired with dignity, and he's been actively involved in criminal

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Speaker 4: rehabilitation programs, and that that's the curse breaker three hundred thing.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna outspoken on Facebook, he is. It's always say

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Speaker 4: you gotta follow Andrea Ewing on Facebook, much in the

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Speaker 4: same way I recommend people follow Signal ninety nine. I've

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Speaker 4: got some words for her on this police chief threats

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Speaker 4: the violence downtown. He's got his finger on the pulse

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Speaker 4: of a lot of things going on in downtown Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Andre Ewing at seven thirty. Liz Keating running for since

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Speaker 4: a city council. I like Liz, She's a wonderful lady.

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Speaker 4: Should joined the program at eight oh five. How is

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Speaker 4: local big topics, including the debate last night? Did you

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Speaker 4: It was six pm? Yeah, call me up. Let me

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Speaker 4: So anyhow, Liz geting on a variety of dovigs a

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Speaker 4: hear from my heart MEATIA aviation expert Jay rat left

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Speaker 4: wait till this no King's prote us this weekend October eighteenth.

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Speaker 4: Are you planning on attending. They're expecting millions and millions

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Speaker 4: October eighteenth, this Saturday. There's one event located near you.

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Speaker 4: More than twenty five hundred of them are planned across

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Speaker 4: every state in the Union. Organizers include all of the people,

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Speaker 4: the usual characters that you would expect, and a lot

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Speaker 4: So get out there and be angry and yell and

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Speaker 4: going to point to the millions of people who took

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Speaker 4: Are they angry old immigration policies? Are the angry over

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Speaker 4: survey by Signal. They've on this several years and years

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Speaker 4: They had no right to be here in the first place,

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Speaker 4: That's why you're protesting, because you don't want a dangerous

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Speaker 4: of info out of them. Yesterday, Scott Wortman, the Cincinni Inquirer,

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Speaker 5: Joe said, there wasn't anything going on now Cole rain,

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Speaker 6: Hey, good morning. So I'm the opening act for west

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you beat him by about You beat him by

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Speaker 6: By the way, a gas price update, they're now into

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Speaker 6: And I encourage people to listen to this and programs

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Speaker 6: that listens, thank you that you're making this is helping.

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Speaker 6: This discourse is helping somewhere somehow. It's helping. And if

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Speaker 6: I can help anymore, I would give everyone the advice

439
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Speaker 6: don't vote Rhino and don't vote Democrat. Have a great day.

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Speaker 4: I always have opportunity to reel it right back into

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Speaker 4: that final point. And I appreciate your comments about the show.

442
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: That's the component of the show that I enjoy so much,

443
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Speaker 4: because who am I a man with an opinion, a

444
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Speaker 4: guy with a sphincter like everybody else. It's a good

445
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Speaker 4: point James makes all the time. Put yourself or try

446
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Speaker 4: to put yourself for another person's shoes, you know. And

447
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Speaker 4: as we look forward to this election in downtown Cincinnati,

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Speaker 4: I don't vote in the city. I don't live in

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Speaker 4: the city. I don't experience the situations that go on

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Speaker 4: in the city. I don't I'm not faced with the

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Speaker 4: level of crime in my neighborhood that the City of

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati residents are faced with. I certainly can try to

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Speaker 4: put myself in the position as someone who has to

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Speaker 4: deal with that kind of thing all day long, and

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Speaker 4: the solution does seem a little obvious to me. Five

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Speaker 4: point thirty five Right now, Jim, your next or New Hampshire.

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Speaker 4: Gary's also on the line. I got two calls. I'm

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Speaker 4: looking forward to having a conversation with it.

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Speaker 1: Be right back fifty five KARC the talk station, the

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Speaker 1: talk station.

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Speaker 4: By thirty eight fifty five KRCE the talk station. Half

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Speaker 4: E FRIDAYE. You gonna go directly to the phone. It's

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Speaker 4: got a few callers lined up this morning, which I

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Speaker 4: just absolutely love. Five one three seven, four fifty eight

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Speaker 4: eight two three talk found five fifty on aight and

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Speaker 4: t phones. Wes Saie, Jim, appreciate the info you passed

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Speaker 4: along yesterday, which I will let you pass along to

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Speaker 4: my listening audience. We've got the first statistic from the

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Speaker 4: Board of Election, Sherry Poland, who does have a lot

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Speaker 4: of experience two decades worth about what her guess is

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Speaker 4: on the voter turnout. Jim, always good to hear from me.

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Speaker 4: And how did you receive the debate last night? Welcome?

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Speaker 2: Well, first of.

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Speaker 8: All, I'll get the Sherry pulling out of the way, Brian.

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Speaker 2: That's an easy one.

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Speaker 8: She was predicting between twenty three and twenty six percent

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Speaker 8: in the city.

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Speaker 4: Right, not the county. And you specifically counting issues you

479
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Speaker 4: asked them for only the city. Her projection on city numbers.

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Speaker 4: So your vote is worth a lot if you choose

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Speaker 4: to vote in the election.

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Speaker 2: Which I hope is correct.

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Speaker 8: We don't want to see this thing milk down by

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Speaker 8: the Democrats and make it like thirty five.

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Speaker 2: So that's what would happen if if we got up

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Speaker 2: that high.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, if they you know what, Jim, if they

488
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Speaker 4: chose to have their no Kings nationwide progress protests on

489
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Speaker 4: election day and they chose the oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Board of Elections as the venue for that, then

491
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Speaker 4: maybe they could get a lot more voters than they

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Speaker 4: otherwise would not to provide them.

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Speaker 8: Way be a total zoo in parking out there, and

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Speaker 8: I've got to work that day out there.

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Speaker 2: I don't want nothing to do with that.

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Speaker 8: Before I get into that thea I'll make this early

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Speaker 8: quick on Britney Ruby. You know, people are making this

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Speaker 8: out to be that she came out.

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Speaker 2: And it's a rent issue. It's not a rent issue.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not.

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Speaker 8: That's a minor issue. But she explained the fact that

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Speaker 8: there's no security.

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Speaker 4: That's sorry. That's the beef. She said it in the statement.

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Speaker 4: It was the security at the front door. They're worried

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Speaker 4: about their employees and the town properties I think is

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Speaker 4: the name of the company that owns it that they're

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Speaker 4: having a dispute with. They were disputing over security. They

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Speaker 4: won't place the guard to the front door. They won't

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Speaker 4: provide the necessary security perceived needed by the Ruby group.

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Speaker 4: So there it is. I don't think it was over rent,

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Speaker 4: it was over security.

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Speaker 8: They tried to make an issue in one of the

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Speaker 8: news stations that it was over a rent issue, but

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Speaker 8: I was in that office up there, because the Republican

515
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Speaker 8: office was one floor up and when you took the

516
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Speaker 8: elevator there was absolutely no security and it was no

517
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Speaker 8: key card. Seems that she was exactly right on telling this,

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Speaker 8: but their the town properties are going to come out

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Speaker 8: and say, well, it was.

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Speaker 2: Over a rent issue. That's all bull So that's this,

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Speaker 2: And then she got into the fact.

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Speaker 8: Of crime and that she was downtown on one of

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Speaker 8: these happenings and that is why they're thinking about moving that.

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Speaker 8: It's a palacious office up there, and I know Jeff

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Speaker 8: Ruby doesn't want to spend the money to move, but

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Speaker 8: now he has to. And I'm hoping that the restaurant

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Speaker 8: isn't next, because that is the number one restaurant in

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Speaker 8: downtown Cincinnati, a bar all.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens on that.

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Speaker 8: Now the debate, Now, if anybody watched that and didn't

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Speaker 8: know Purvall before this, he's a bully, and Corey is

532
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Speaker 8: very statesmanlike and diplomatic, and he got a couple of

533
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Speaker 8: jabs in. But Corey is not the meaning that Purvall is,

534
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Speaker 8: and Purvoll saying Cory this and Cory that, and he

535
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Speaker 8: was not qualified and he doesn't know what he's talking

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Speaker 8: about and things like this.

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Speaker 2: That's the Purvall. He tried to be nice, but Purball

538
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Speaker 2: isn't nice. He has to get his he has to

539
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Speaker 2: get his digs in.

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Speaker 8: And if anybody didn't see that, you should hit the

541
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Speaker 8: DVR and you should go back and watch that thing

542
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Speaker 8: because it was absolutely terrible the way he treats people.

543
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Speaker 8: And he treated people like that in the clerk's office.

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Speaker 8: I knew people in the clerk's office down and when

545
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Speaker 8: he was there, and he was horrible. And that's why

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Speaker 8: a lot of them either quit when they stuck it

547
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Speaker 8: out because of the fact of retirement. And then as

548
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Speaker 8: soon as soon as retirement age came up, it's kind

549
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Speaker 8: of like.

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Speaker 2: A drop with the police. They got out.

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Speaker 8: And you know, I saw the pure Ball that I

552
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 8: know last night, and Corey Uh, I thought he did

553
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Speaker 8: a decent job.

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Speaker 2: I wish the Ruby thing would it came up with.

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Speaker 8: When Purvall said about the fact that business is coming

556
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Speaker 8: downtown and everything is jumping and everything is great.

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Speaker 4: And all this kind of stuff, did he did he

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Speaker 4: cite any specific examples of businesses that are coming downtown

559
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: on Moss No, no, I don't think so. Yeah, I did.

560
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: I knew the answer to that question before asking you.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely no.

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Speaker 8: And he ain't talking about the ones over leaving, the

563
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Speaker 8: big corporations and so forth.

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Speaker 2: On his watch. Yeah, And you know, it's just sure.

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Speaker 8: He talked about the housing coming in and I just

566
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Speaker 8: don't understand where you're coming up with the fact of

567
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Speaker 8: forty thousand housing opportunities coming up in the next four years.

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Speaker 8: Forty thousand Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: They can't get a lane mile get his number, They

570
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Speaker 4: can't get a lane mile paved. How they're gonna bill

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Speaker 4: forty thousand units? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: And then that that was one of the focal points

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Speaker 8: last night was the paving, and Corey got him on

574
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Speaker 8: that one where he came out and he said, well,

575
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Speaker 8: you've had four years to do this. Why is it

576
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Speaker 8: during the election year and all of a sudden you're

577
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Speaker 8: bringing all this up. Everybody knows that it wouldn't even

578
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Speaker 8: have to be explained. He's doing it because he wants

579
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Speaker 8: votes and he's acting like he's getting something done. No,

580
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 8: Sunset was not brought up. It would have been funny

581
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Speaker 8: if Corey would have said, well you should drive up

582
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Speaker 8: on down Sunset anyone talk about it. But you know,

583
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Speaker 8: the one thing I want to mention about your show, Brian,

584
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Speaker 8: and I'll let you go. Your show is nothing like

585
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Speaker 8: w l W W l W if you like to

586
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 8: listen to commercials and you like, you like, and this

587
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 8: is a dig on him. It is totally commercial, not free.

588
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 8: And sure you've got you've got bills to pay, and

589
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 8: you do have commercials on air. But your show, like

590
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 8: Tom says, it takes people, and the people to call

591
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Speaker 8: in keep the show rolling when you cut in wl

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Speaker 8: W IF cutting him takes three calls a day, which

593
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Speaker 8: most of the time that's a lot. That's that's pretty

594
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Speaker 8: much the end of it. And he's a bully. He's

595
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Speaker 8: just mother bunch bully as purball in it.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, I'm just and I doubt listening to

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Speaker 4: the show right now.

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Speaker 2: He don't listen to anything. You don't even listen to

599
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: his own my god.

600
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Speaker 4: But well, you know, I appreciate that, and I like

601
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Speaker 4: to just acknowledge I'm self deprecating enough to know that

602
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not the answer. I think I have

603
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 4: the right direction, and I try to explain why I

604
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: believe that, because I believe the power of your life

605
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 4: should be directed by you. I mean, that's why. But

606
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: I'm happy to provide the avenue. And that's why I

607
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: really appreciate callers calling in because you know what, you

608
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: guys may be thinking about something along a different line

609
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Speaker 4: than me. You're there to enlighten me or maybe bring

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Speaker 4: a topic or a point up that I haven't specifically

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Speaker 4: brought up to, you know, to Mississippi James kind of comment.

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Speaker 4: You know you didn't mention this, Well, it's because it

613
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Speaker 4: wasn't on my mind to mention. It's not because I

614
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: intentionally excluded something. That's what you're for, and that's why

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Speaker 4: God love each and every one of you. I got

616
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: the best audience in radio, there is no question about it,

617
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: and you're one of the reasons. West Side Jim Kiefer,

618
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: and thank you for all your little inside scoop information

619
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Speaker 4: that you passed along. You're my favorite little bird out

620
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: in the word, out in the world.

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Speaker 2: Last week, last week, Brian, last week.

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Speaker 8: If I can say, that was too short of an

623
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Speaker 8: interview last night on Channel twelve. They had to try

624
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 8: to jam everything into a half an hour and it

625
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 8: just wasn't enough time. But I understand that's prime time.

626
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Speaker 8: So at least Corey got out there and people got

627
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Speaker 8: the scene that usually to watch the news.

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Speaker 4: Check it out online. It should be really easy to find.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate your call west Side Jim as always flying six

630
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Speaker 4: right now, New Hampshire. Gary, your next thing, Hey.

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Speaker 2: I got two things. You can incorporate some of your

632
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Speaker 2: products you with your advertisement with your show. You can

633
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Speaker 2: always peat.

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Speaker 9: The capital of Columbus with some rhino shield and if

635
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Speaker 9: that didn't work, you could always use O directit.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Gary, thanks very much, and prose for

638
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Speaker 4: supporting the sponsors. Jay, thanks for calling in again. Jay.

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Speaker 4: It's always good to hear from you. Oh Jay, real quick,

640
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Speaker 4: you have a reading assignment, Gay, go to zero hedge

641
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: dot com. There's an article there that's we reposted from

642
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: the Epoch or Epic Times regardless by Molly Engelhardt headline

643
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Speaker 4: when do we truly own anything? The property tax scheme

644
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Speaker 4: that keeps us paying forever? I thought about you the

645
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Speaker 4: minute I read that. So anyhow, reading assignment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it sounds good. Hey, just want to give

647
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Speaker 3: you an update.

648
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Speaker 10: We're up to seventy five billion dollars in savings with

649
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Speaker 10: this government shut down, and I kind of thought about,

650
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Speaker 10: what could we do with that money? Minus the twenty

651
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Speaker 10: billion that was given to Argentina by Trump gets us

652
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Speaker 10: down to fifty five billion dollars saved. So I thought

653
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Speaker 10: about what else could we do with that money? With

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Speaker 10: fifty five billion, we could actually fund the Department of

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Speaker 10: Education for three months, and the twenty billion that was

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Speaker 10: given to Argentina, that could actually fund one year of

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Speaker 10: Ohio Medicaid fraud. So it's you know, you put it

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Speaker 10: in that perspective, A fifty billion dollars would only fund

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Speaker 10: one Department of Education for three months. So people need

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Speaker 10: to think about we could go back in time. Would

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Speaker 10: you rather have the government fully funded and operational for

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Speaker 10: these past two weeks with an approble rating of like

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Speaker 10: twenty seven percent? Or would you rather have seventy five

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Speaker 10: billion dollars going towards the national debt? We don't need

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Speaker 10: more government. Nobody's suffering, Everybody relaxed. And to your point,

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Speaker 10: why back to property tax? What does this government ever do?

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Speaker 10: Why are we paying rent to somebody who never took

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Speaker 10: any risks, didn't build your house, didn't develop your property,

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Speaker 10: doesn't have any risk or a dime invested, and make

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Speaker 10: no mistake, that's your landlord that you're going to continue

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Speaker 10: to pay till the day you die for having done zero.

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Speaker 10: So we'll get out before the end of this month

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Speaker 10: is when over the petitions have to be in. So

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Speaker 10: if you haven't done it yet, get moving. Take some

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Speaker 10: neighbors with you. I I finally got moving. I think

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Speaker 10: I got fifteen to twenty signatures just by walking around

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Speaker 10: the neighborhood when I finally decided times up.

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Speaker 2: Time to take time to get moving.

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Speaker 3: So people aren't aware. So hurry up, get busy. Whatever

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Speaker 3: you do.

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Speaker 10: Don't vote Rhino, don't vote Democrat.

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Speaker 3: Have a good day, Bryan.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jay, and another reading assignment for everybody with regard

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Speaker 4: to the government shutdown today article by Daniel Huff and

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Speaker 4: the opinion segment of the Wall Street Journal. Government shutdown No.

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Speaker 4: An efficiency audit based on data from past closing is

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Speaker 4: roughly twenty five percent of the federal workforce, of course,

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Speaker 4: could be permanently cut. Good number crunching on that one.

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Speaker 4: Looking at pass shutdowns, a number of people who lost

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Speaker 4: their jobs, who were furloughed, and really the impact on

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Speaker 4: that at least in so far as how you and

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Speaker 4: I experienced it, and I am with Dan that Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I do believe twenty five percent of the work or

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Speaker 4: force could be permanently cut, resulting in a significant decrease

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Speaker 4: in our spending in government. Say okay with me, stick around.

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Speaker 4: Dan Hill's former FOP chief, going to be talking about

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Speaker 4: is the police chief? He said, Thiji going to be

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Speaker 4: forced to resign and get some details on that. Top

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Speaker 4: of the Air News follow by Dan Hills at six

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Speaker 4: thirty and Congressman Warren Davidson returned at seven oh five.

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Speaker 4: Other guests including Andre Ewing, Liz Keating, and Jay Ratliffe

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Speaker 4: on the program as well this morning. I hope you

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Speaker 4: can stick around. It'll be right back. Today's tough headlines

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Speaker 4: coming up. You're a fig about Karise de Talk Station

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Speaker 4: Brian Thomas right now, wish in every potty happy Thursday's

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Speaker 4: last Friday Eve looking forward to the bottom of the hour,

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Speaker 4: Dan Hills, former FOP president, are the outstanding swirling controversy

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Speaker 4: about police chief Threesid Thiji being hauled into the Principal's

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Speaker 4: office yesterday. City Manager Cheryl Lung said that yes, the

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Speaker 4: chief was asked to return to the city immediately to

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Speaker 4: immediately address departmental matters, but they did not fire her,

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Speaker 4: although it does appear as if they're heading in that direction,

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Speaker 4: blaming the chief of police for perhaps failures of the administration.

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Speaker 4: Congressman Warren Davidson in one hour on the shutdown the

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Speaker 4: Israeli Hamas peace deal, question mark piece deal. I know

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Speaker 4: things that are not going real smoothly within Gaza. We'll

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Speaker 4: get to Congressman Davidson in an hour, follow by Andre

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Speaker 4: You and Andre. Brother Dre Hurst Breaker's three hundred an

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Speaker 4: outspoken observer of the craziness going on in downtown Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: I strongly encourage you to follow Brother Dre on Facebook.

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Speaker 4: He's going to be back at seven point thirty and Dre,

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Speaker 4: if you're out there listening. Man, Sorry, I couldn't get

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Speaker 4: back to your phone call last night, but I was

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Speaker 4: really excited to learn you're going to be on the

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Speaker 4: show today when I woke up this morning. Liz Keating

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Speaker 4: running for sinc A City Council. How's a campaign going?

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Speaker 4: Get her thoughts on the, of course, local topics, including

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Speaker 4: her position on the police chief. Jay Ratliffe Media, I

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Speaker 4: heard me the aviation expert every Thursday. The thirty today,

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Speaker 4: not deviating from the norm. Looking forward to Jay as

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Speaker 4: I always do, and I always love talking to former

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Speaker 4: Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati running for Cincinna

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Speaker 4: City Council. You have a choice. Let's go a different direction.

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Speaker 4: Let's vote smith Aman back into office. Welcome Christopher Smithman.

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Speaker 4: It's a pleasure hearing from me this morning.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you, Brian. I just want to spend a

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Speaker 3: few minutes kind of weighing in, and I might have

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Speaker 3: a different perspective than others about what I see happening.

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Speaker 3: I see the police chief being used as a scapegoat

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Speaker 3: right before an election, and it's really troublesome to me.

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Speaker 3: And I've been talking about issue five and what I

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Speaker 3: think the shortcomings are with issue five.

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Speaker 4: All right, real quick, Chris, Christopher, remind my listeners what

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Speaker 4: issue five is. This came up in our conversation I

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Speaker 4: had with Ken Kober earlier, and I had forgotten the

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Speaker 4: way things used to be versus how they are now,

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Speaker 4: which means the I guess the mayor and the city

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Speaker 4: manager are solely responsible for determining who the police chief is,

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Speaker 4: selecting that person and firing the chief.

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Speaker 3: That's correct and what used to happen is you know

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Speaker 3: when Striker Chief Striker was the last chief under the

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Speaker 3: old system, which had its pluses and minuses, But the

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Speaker 3: reality was you knew who the police chief was, and

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Speaker 3: the police chief made the decisions, the best decisions for

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Speaker 3: the department, and without fear of termination. And so what's

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Speaker 3: happening now is this to me is like the loophole

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Speaker 3: here that is personality driven. The issue five is as

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Speaker 3: good as the mayor is and as good as the

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Speaker 3: city manager is. And so what I see here now,

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Speaker 3: and I'm letting you know publicly that I don't think

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Speaker 3: the police chief nor the fire chief should be terminated

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Speaker 3: without the consent of city council. I think seven members

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Speaker 3: of council should have to weigh in on the termination

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Speaker 3: of what I would say the most important job, our

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Speaker 3: fire chief and our police chief. And so what you

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Speaker 3: see here is right before an election, a mayor in

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Speaker 3: panic mode, a mayor trying to figure out what he

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Speaker 3: needs to do politically and willing to destroy somebody else's career. Now,

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Speaker 3: let's give a context here, right well, first, Fiji Chief

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Speaker 3: Fiji has given a life to the Cincinnati Police Department,

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Speaker 3: and she is from the Nevill family. She's a Neville,

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Speaker 3: and the Nevill family has given so much as police

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Speaker 3: officers to the City of Cincinnati. So let's make sure

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Speaker 3: that we put her in the right context and that

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Speaker 3: we at least what I want to do is if

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Speaker 3: she decides to leave, resign, or she's fired, that is

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Speaker 3: done with dignity. All of this is not on her,

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Speaker 3: because what I've seen the mayor do is send all

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Speaker 3: kinds of different messages. One of those that's the hiring

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Speaker 3: of Irish ROWLEI in this consulted position, and nobody quite

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Speaker 3: knows what she's doing and what kind of pressure she's

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Speaker 3: putting on the chief. What we do know is that

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Speaker 3: the city manager has really empowered her in a way

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Speaker 3: that I've never seen before. We have a chair of

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Speaker 3: law in Public Safety. That's Scottie Johnson. He's elected, he goes,

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Speaker 3: his name is on the ballot. That's the person that

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Speaker 3: is providing the civilian oversight, not Irish Rolely, a consultant.

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Speaker 3: And it seems like the lines are being blurred here

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Speaker 3: for me, and I think they were blurred for the

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Speaker 3: chiefs on who is actually who should she be listening

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Speaker 3: to and what is the direction now ultimately to the public,

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Speaker 3: our our our police chief is ultimately responsible for those decisions.

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Speaker 3: I just want everybody to know that this is part

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Speaker 3: of the chaos that I think is a problem, because

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Speaker 3: if the police chief had to come before council right now,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they could get seven votes to

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Speaker 3: fire her, and definitely fire her right before an election

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Speaker 3: on November fourth. That's the rub for me. It's the

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Speaker 3: it's the timing of this public it's the time timing

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Speaker 3: of it, Brian Thomas, that we should all be concerned about.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I'm glad you brought up that the full

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Speaker 4: council having a say in this point, because I was

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Speaker 4: going to counter your suggestion. How can we expect things

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Speaker 4: to be different if all the counselor are the same party.

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Speaker 4: You've got, you know, a Democrat mayor and who I

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Speaker 4: presume has a tremendous amount of sway over the individual

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Speaker 4: Democrat council members. How much maybe that would come down

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Speaker 4: to how they would ultimately vote on firing or not

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Speaker 4: firing the police chief. But as it is right now,

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Speaker 4: I think they probably would all vote if the mayor

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Speaker 4: wanted to fire the chief and the city manager wanted

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Speaker 4: to fire the chief, they probably would all follow lead

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Speaker 4: and do so along the same lines.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you are, you think you're right about that.

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Speaker 3: But here's the difference. You've got the FLP President Kober

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Speaker 3: who's coming on, and he has people that they have supported,

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Speaker 3: they've endorsed. So I would think that the FLP would

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Speaker 3: be able to go to those members of council and say, listen,

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Speaker 3: here are our thoughts on what you should do, and

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Speaker 3: those things would be taken under consideration. They wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: done outside of the electeds, who the people have put

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Speaker 3: there to provide oversight for police and fire.

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Speaker 2: I just think there should be an.

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Speaker 3: Extra step here, and particularly Brian the timing of this.

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Speaker 3: We had a shooting off Fountain Square, we had a

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Speaker 3: shooting on Fountain Square. We've had shooting in Westwood, all

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Speaker 3: over the city, you know, and the mayor is under

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Speaker 3: tremendous pressure here because he didn't have a plan at

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the summer. I've had many opportunities to

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Speaker 3: talk to the Governor's office about when they came and

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Speaker 3: made the first offer, which was somewhere in May of

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Speaker 3: this year, and the mayor continue to turn down those

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Speaker 3: offers from the governor. Right, so he had played a role.

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Speaker 3: He has made the decision. Why is the governor's office

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Speaker 3: only doing two times a month?

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Speaker 4: Now it's four now apparently the signal ninety nine and

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Speaker 4: I again recommend people follow signal ninety nine on Facebook.

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Speaker 4: She does a great job, but pointed out, well, I

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Speaker 4: guess the mayor has just recently decided we're going to

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Speaker 4: take four days to deal with a twenty four hour days,

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Speaker 4: seven day week problem.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying, I'm trying not to laugh at such a

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Speaker 3: serious matter, but it's it's crazy that you would think

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Speaker 3: that the governor is saying, listen, we'll do whatever we

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Speaker 3: can to help you, and the mayor saying I'll only

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Speaker 3: accept four times. But prior to that it was only

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Speaker 3: two times a month. The point that I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: make here is that members of council who are up

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Speaker 3: for reelection, this mayor who is up for reelection, right,

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Speaker 3: they are as responsible for where we are with crime

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Speaker 3: in our fifty two neighborhoods. We just heard one of

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Speaker 3: the biggest restaurants, right, signal I think he's signal and

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Speaker 3: Jeff Ruby saying listen, I'm moving my catering part on

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Speaker 3: Seventh Street somewhere else. Now, they made a nice flowery statement,

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Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, everybody understands that

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Speaker 3: they're concerned about their employees, their cars coming in and

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Speaker 3: out of that location we had with the taste of

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Speaker 3: Belgium in OTR. They said they were moving, but they

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Speaker 3: gave some flowery, you know, pressure release and excuses why

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Speaker 3: they were leaving. At the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 3: coming down to crime. People are concerned about their cars,

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Speaker 3: their well being, their quality of life as they are

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Speaker 3: interacting in the downtown area. And you and I and

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Speaker 3: so many people have been raising concerns about the escalation

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Speaker 3: of this. This mayor had said, it's his perception, it's

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Speaker 3: our perception that crime is down. Nobody believes that, Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 3: and so if it's our perception, meaning if he's saying

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Speaker 3: crime is down, think about what I'm about to say here.

869
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: You're saying the chief is doing a good job. That's

870
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: been your message to the entire campaign. Then why are

871
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: you pushing to fire the police chief. Listen, I can

872
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: end on that note, Yes you can. If that's a

873
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: narrative that, hey man, this police chief has been doing

874
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: a great job. That crime is down. It is all

875
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 3: of our perception, right, not our reality. Then please explain

876
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: to me why in the world would there be a

877
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: need to fire the police chief.

878
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 4: Drop the mic right there. This is a profound.

879
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a scapegoat from this mayor to try

880
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: to change the narrative that he's doing something or that

881
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 3: this counsel is doing something. And all I will tell

882
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 3: all all of our fifty two neighborhoods, we have an

883
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 3: opportunity to do something different. You're the jury out there.

884
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: You have to make the decision, and I would say,

885
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: elects four or five new members of council that can

886
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: bring balance to this city and can move the needle

887
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: in the area of safety and making sure that we

888
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 3: are able to bring crime down with a plan. And

889
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: it includes accepting help from our partners like the governor

890
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: or the sheriff or whoever would like to weigh in

891
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: out in there. Brian, thank you so much. I don't

892
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: put this all at the head of this chief. I

893
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: think it's easy to do that. If she does leave

894
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: the position, and she's hearing my voice right now, I

895
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: want her to know that she's done a great service

896
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 3: to the City of Cincinnati, just like Chief Washington did.

897
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: They fired Chief Washington. Most people don't know the fire

898
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: chief was fired and that he has won his lawsuit.

899
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 3: He's won the appeal.

900
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: He may be back. I gotta run, Christopher or out

901
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: of time man, God bless you, my friend. Six seventeen

902
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: vote Smithman Galaxy Concrete Codings Dot DE talk station six

903
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: if you have KERCD talk station looking forward to Dan

904
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 4: Hill's former FOP president with his former FOP president had on.

905
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 4: Is the chief being forced to resign? Swirling rumors about

906
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: that she was called back from her out of town meeting,

907
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: and so far the comments from the mayor's office are

908
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 4: that know she's not being fired, city manager saying that,

909
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: but does look like she's on thin ice. And I've

910
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 4: been singing the praises a Signal ninety nine. Recommend you

911
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: follow her on Facebook and she's she gave the recitation

912
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 4: of this into very clear summary of where we were

913
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 4: going back to Christopher Smithman's comments earlier in the year

914
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 4: to where we are now, which seems to be a

915
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: mayor in desperation mode. She's right, the people of since

916
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: I deserve the truth, not the political theater that has

917
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 4: defined city halls, handling a violent crime in downtown as

918
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: well as all over the city. In July, when casts

919
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: are upted a main national news the mayor and his

920
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 4: allies dismissed the outrageous hysteria. They stood before the cameras

921
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 4: clutching their pearls, insisting that the city of Cincinnati was safe,

922
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: while footage of assaults, open air fights, and chaos told

923
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 4: a very different story. Governor Mike Dewaine extended an unprecedented

924
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 4: offer the full resources of the state to help restore order,

925
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: highway patrol, investigative support, technology assets, tools that could have

926
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 4: given the CPD the breathing room it desperately needed. Instead

927
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: of welcoming that help, city leaders arrogantly declined it. They

928
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 4: wanted to protect their political narrative, not their citizens. By August,

929
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: the pressure is too heavy to ignore, the administration quietly

930
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 4: allowed a high state patrol to handle traffic enforcement, claiming

931
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 4: it would free CPD to answer critical calls. It sounded

932
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 4: like progress, but it was a partial, face saving compromise.

933
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 4: The quote full package close quote was still off the

934
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 4: table because it would expose the depth of the crisis.

935
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: The city has worked so hard to downplay. In September,

936
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 4: they relented again, finally announcing they would accept the governor help.

937
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 4: What they didn't tell you was it really for two

938
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 4: days a month two Then this month they stretched it

939
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 4: to four, four days out of thirty four days to

940
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 4: fight a twenty four to seven problem. Mayor stated that

941
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 4: over the exaggerated violence in our city was more of

942
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 4: a perception than a reality. Even worse, the mayor and

943
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 4: city Council forced the Governor's office, you're gonna love this one.

944
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 4: I did not know this, and I trust signaled ninety

945
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 4: nine at her words, forced the Governor's office and multiple

946
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 4: state agencies to sit through a lecture from Iris Rowley,

947
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: the self opponented authority on the Collaborative Agreement, Roly, who

948
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 4: is not the director of the agreement because there is

949
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 4: no director, dictated what troopers and agents could and could

950
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 4: not do in Cincinnati, as if she held legal jurisdiction

951
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,959
Speaker 4: over them. The Governor's office, trying to help, was forced

952
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 4: to tolerate this circus to avoid political backlash from city Hall.

953
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 4: It was humiliating, not for them, but for us, for

954
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: this city. Has now turned to his next political scapegoat

955
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 4: police Chief Theresa Thiji, after being ordered to juggle impossible directives,

956
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 4: appease political activists, keep crime's stats control, and protect confidence

957
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 4: amid chaos, the chief is being positioned for sacrifice. It's

958
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 4: the same cynical script blame the police when the politics collapse.

959
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 4: What City Cincinnati is witnessing isn't leadership, it's manipulation. Public

960
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: safety is being bartered for headlines. The mayor's office continues

961
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 4: to mislead the public, minimize the scale of the state's assistance,

962
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 4: and allow unelected consultants to hold sway over law enforcement.

963
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 4: The collaborative Agreement was never meant to become a political

964
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: weapon or a personal platform for self promotion. Yet here

965
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 4: we are watching a city and crisis defer to a

966
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: consultant while the governor's troopers stand down because Iris Roley

967
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 4: said so. Four days of help per month isn't a plan,

968
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: it's a pr stunt. And as the mayor scrambles to

969
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: protect his re election campaign by three growing Chiefdiji under

970
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: the bus, one truth remains clear. The violence continues, the

971
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 4: spin intensifies, and the people of Cincinnati are left to

972
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: fend for themselves while city Hall hides bodence talking points.

973
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 4: Signal ninety nine concludes, vote this mayor and city council

974
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 4: out of office next month, and the rest of the

975
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 4: trash will take care of itself, will take itself out.

976
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 4: We can start to heal as a city, clean up

977
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 4: our city and its neighborhoods. Utilize the federal courts to

978
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 4: start holding these violent criminals accountable, since so many of

979
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 4: our own county judges will not. It's just time. That's

980
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 4: the kind of thing you get from her all the time.

981
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 4: So if you're out there, signal, I appreciate your words.

982
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: I appreciate you standing on top of things. You are

983
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: a refreshing voice out there. Stick around. We're gonna hit

984
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: you fridaye to you. Starting off with the guests right now,

985
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 4: although I always consider callers guests as well. You're welcome

986
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 4: to call, but not right now because Dan Hills returns

987
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 4: former FOP president Dan Hills, putting his old FOP kind

988
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: of hat back on and giving us an analysis of

989
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 4: the lay of the landscape of the since a police

990
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: department relative to law enforcement downtown and will Chief Fiji

991
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 4: be fired? Sure sounded like it was going to happen yesterday.

992
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 4: Welcome back, Dan Hills. It's great having you on the show.

993
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 3: All Brian, it's good to be back. I hope you're well.

994
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: Hope your health as well.

995
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing really well. I appreciate you asking about that.

996
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Now, yes, sure, it looked like

997
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 4: calling Fiji back into town from her police chief conference

998
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 4: looked like the writing was on the wall, although there

999
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 4: was what I would call backpedaling if they had made

1000
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 4: the decision to fire her. It has not happened yet,

1001
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: But do you get the impression that Fiji's on thin

1002
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: ice and it's just the shoe just hasn't dropped yet.

1003
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's obviously the thing bring her back

1004
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 3: from Denver, which you know in something I have commentary

1005
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: rights here, you know. I don't think going out of

1006
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: town to a chief conference during this time of increased

1007
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 3: scrutiny and the violence on the streets and all that

1008
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: thing was probably the best the best picture to present

1009
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: of the police department or her leadership.

1010
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 4: Well better that than well watching while the city burns.

1011
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: And it was I don't think it was a good idea.

1012
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, I didn't know where you were going to go.

1013
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: If you just ask me, my opinion of the.

1014
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: Chiefs or well, that's a separate here.

1015
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: You're the host, I'll no, no.

1016
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 4: No, I think that's a completely separate issue, and it's

1017
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: a worthy issue to address because you know, you still

1018
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: stay in touch with active members since a law enforcement

1019
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 4: I bet you have a pretty good idea about their

1020
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 4: perception of whether Police Chief three Strategi's doing a good

1021
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 4: job or not. I've had people tell me one way

1022
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 4: or another, and I have my own perceptions along those lines.

1023
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: But that's why we have you on the show. So

1024
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: how she fares among the ranks is one thing. And

1025
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: if we had the old system before this, you know,

1026
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 4: issue five thing, the rank and file would decide whether

1027
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 4: or not they wanted to cling to her correct.

1028
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 3: Yes, And I you know, issue five is a discussion

1029
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: of its own And I was. I was, and to

1030
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: Christopher Smotherman on there, and let's hope to god he

1031
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 3: gets elected and Steve Gooden gets elected and there is

1032
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 3: some change in some change of thought down at city Hall.

1033
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: But that's what I guess I wanted to say about

1034
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: the chief in my opinion, that she's more of a

1035
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 3: symptom of a problem in a sense than the problem.

1036
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: I think she's done a better job than I expected.

1037
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 3: I don't make any secrets about it. I was not

1038
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 3: supporting her. I was still the president when she got appointed.

1039
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: I was pulling for Lisa Davis. And I was only

1040
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: pulling for Lisa Davis because I was listening. I want

1041
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: to say only, but I was mostly pulling for Lisa

1042
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 3: Davis because that's what my cops are telling me. So

1043
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: it was like, this is an easy one. I got

1044
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 3: all these cops call me and saying, yeah, can you

1045
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 3: get can you get anything done? And I remember being

1046
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: disappointed in city at city Hall, namely Cheryl Long, because

1047
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: she went on this last second tour of talking to

1048
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 3: the cops when I knew she had already decided. I

1049
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: had a good source inside city Hall that said she

1050
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: had ready to but then she heard the controversy that

1051
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: was out there. I was putting it out there that

1052
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: the cops far preferred Lisa Davis, who went on to

1053
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 3: UH to be the chief in Austin, Texas.

1054
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: But just so I'm not.

1055
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 3: Here, you know, celebrating this trouble rating.

1056
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 2: I think that.

1057
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 3: Terry has done a better job than what I had expected.

1058
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: Hansom downside, I guess anybody would and and and it's

1059
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: easy to sit outside and be a critic and throw darts.

1060
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: But you know again, I think the reason she got

1061
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 3: the job as part of the the symptom of the disease,

1062
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 3: and and that is you're far left activism within city

1063
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 3: Hall to the point where they hire somebody like Irish Rolli,

1064
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: which we could talk about we will rest the show

1065
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: right well, so you know, and so you hire somebody

1066
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 3: like uh Terry Tigi who had gone in there and

1067
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 3: willing to it down and and and play with Irish Rely.

1068
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 3: Can you imagine uh uh back in the day you

1069
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 3: mentioned Striker or Smitherman mentioned Striker, that's the last guy

1070
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: in their old system. Would he have would he have

1071
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: paid attention to her or cared what she said?

1072
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: Ever?

1073
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: Hell only to criticize there is the only time he

1074
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: would have spoke up in his mind. And even under

1075
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: their new system of hiring and and and and keeping chiefs.

1076
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if James Craig would have.

1077
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: Had a deal with Iris Rely, you would have he

1078
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: would have come.

1079
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: Out publicly and and uh and condemned her for the

1080
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: dingaling that she is. So you know, you put somebody

1081
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: into place and part of her marching orders and part

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Speaker 3: of what I assume I said, I don't know this

1083
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Speaker 3: for a fact. Part of what she agreed to to

1084
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: to get the appointment was that she would she would

1085
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: play along with Iris and all that silliness that that

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00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 3: that goes on with that.

1087
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Speaker 4: So you're illustrating the political reality that that job became

1088
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 4: once the city manager and the mayor had the sole

1089
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 4: power to hire and fire, then they really are at

1090
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 4: the whim of the directive of the city manager and mayor.

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Speaker 4: If you don't follow my directive, you're going to lose

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00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 4: your job. So let's hold I'm just going to stop there.

1093
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 4: That's my thought. We'll let you respond and we will

1094
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: bring up virus role among other topics with Dan Hill's

1095
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 4: former FOP president right let talk Station six on a

1096
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: Thursday Bright timeAs with former FOP president Dan Hill talking

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00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: about the situation going in downtown Cincaia. He looks like

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00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 4: the chief TG's job me Figi's job may be on

1099
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 4: the line, sort of speculation, wondering about back and forth.

1100
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 4: Of course, exclusive control over her position held by mayor

1101
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 4: Aftab Purvol and Sherry Long didn't used to be that way.

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Speaker 4: But now we have the involvement and that you mentioned

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00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 4: Iris Roli before and I wanted to see if you

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00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 4: have confirmation on something I read from our friend Signal

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00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: ninety nine. I think she is at least a former,

1106
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Speaker 4: if not current, police officer, but she's always standing up

1107
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 4: on these issues. So follow her on Facebook. She said,

1108
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 4: with regard to the Governor's office and him providing the

1109
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 4: state agency resources that Mayor aftab Purvol took a little

1110
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 4: bit of she gave them a lecture, and I just

1111
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: I can read the quote here even worst Mayrin City

1112
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: Council force the Governor's office, multiple state agencies to sit

1113
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: through a lecture from Iris Rowley fast forward a little bit.

1114
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 4: Not the director of the collaborative agreement because there isn't one,

1115
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: but dictated to the troopers what the agents could and

1116
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 4: could not do in the city of Cincinnati. Did she

1117
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 4: really do that? Did she did she speak to all

1118
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 4: the officers that were coming in from the from the state.

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00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: You know, I don't have confirmation of that, and that

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Speaker 3: might be a little bit of the difference between me

1121
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 3: and ninety nine. I think that we comment on a

1122
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 3: lot of the same things, and where you obviously have

1123
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: the same political feelings as those she's got Right now

1124
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 3: at this stage of my life, she's got more sources

1125
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: than I do, and she's definitely working at her page

1126
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: and stuff harder than I work mine. But I'll say this,

1127
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 3: it sounds likely to me because that's the way that

1128
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 3: things work in the city, which brings me around full

1129
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 3: circle to where do you go next? And I think

1130
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Speaker 3: it to hear Cobra if he was on this morning,

1131
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: but I did. I did read this statement that they

1132
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 3: put out, uh saying that you know that the police

1133
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 3: chief isn't the problem, which is kind of what I'm

1134
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: doubling down on. But but my thing is, where do

1135
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: you go next? How can you get a quality person

1136
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: in here to be the police chief when you still

1137
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 3: have Irish Rolli on your payroll?

1138
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: And they they I.

1139
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: Think they actually believe that Irish.

1140
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Speaker 2: Roly has like a.

1141
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: Riot button in her den or something that she can

1142
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 3: push a button and cause a riot, and that's why

1143
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: they bow to her. And I don't think she has

1144
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 3: that much power. I think the only power she has

1145
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 3: is the power they give her. So I mean, it's

1146
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: it's insanity on top of insanity. You you have a

1147
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: law and order problem. Do you hire somebody that is

1148
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: an anti law order person to go up to go

1149
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: out and and rile up the masses from time to time?

1150
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: And it's it's almost like an alternate reality. It's hard

1151
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: to believe that the city does that, that they hire

1152
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: this lady and that you know, the only reason that

1153
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: I think they could is because again they think that

1154
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: she has the power to uh let loose uh you know,

1155
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 3: all the all the use and cause and cause some

1156
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: sort of commotion. And I don't think I don't think

1157
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,959
Speaker 3: that she has that power. So yes, I can see

1158
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 3: her speaking to the troopers and stuff. Enough I was

1159
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: the troopers or the commander of the camp the troopers,

1160
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 3: I would I would get all my people up and say,

1161
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 3: let's go we listen to this this malarkey. We're down

1162
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 3: here to help the city with a crime problem. Not listen, uh,

1163
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 3: not listen to her. So that's the that's the back

1164
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: to the symptom rather than the disease. They they they

1165
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: they only are going to appoint somebody. And I think

1166
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: that's part of what cover statement that I want to

1167
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: double down on us is the chief isn't the problem?

1168
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: You know, I can like I said, I can sit

1169
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 3: there and nitpick a couple of things, and I could

1170
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: also compliment a couple of things. But the problem started

1171
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 3: because I think she agreed to be their yes person.

1172
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, Okay. Then she got the job for agreeing

1173
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 4: to be a yes person for a woke pretty much

1174
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 4: anti police administration, a rethink the police administration, or a

1175
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 4: defund the police administration. I think Iris Rollie was part

1176
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 4: of that entire movement. So you, I think, in defending

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01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: your you're also pointing out a criticism. A strong chief

1178
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 4: who knows how to conduct law enforcement, how to manage

1179
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 4: police resources, would stand in defiance to a directive that

1180
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 4: was counter to what her perception of proper law enforcement is. Okay, Yeah,

1181
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: I was appointed by the city manager and mayor. I

1182
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 4: know they want to go this direction, but I think

1183
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 4: it's bad for the city for the following reasons. She

1184
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 4: runs the risk of losing your job for you know,

1185
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 4: rejecting something that they told her. But it would show

1186
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 4: that she is independent and of thought, of mind, and

1187
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 4: independent of you know, the direction the police need to go.

1188
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 4: So I think that's true. She's not She's not.

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Speaker 3: She's not She's not independent I think she was Chryl

1190
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 3: Long's girl from the get go. I mean, look, I

1191
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 3: was pulling for Lisa Davis, somebody that I don't necessarily

1192
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 3: hang out with politically, shall I say? She is a

1193
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: friend and I and I thought she was a better

1194
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: natural leader. And you know that's and and again, I

1195
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 3: think I think Terry is a nice person. I think

1196
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 3: she's very smart and qualified, but she doesn't have that

1197
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: whatever it is that that that certain leaders had that

1198
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: get people to fall where I thought Lisa had more

1199
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 3: of that. Lisa politically and I are are are our

1200
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,479
Speaker 3: world's apart. But I just thought that she she would

1201
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 3: be more of that natural leader. And I also think

1202
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 3: Lisa has stood up to him on some different things

1203
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 3: that made her not not their pick. And so until

1204
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 3: you fix the system, and this is where you know,

1205
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 3: like I said, double amount of look over said with

1206
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: issue five, and mister Spiderman said, until double down on

1207
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: the system, change the system, then then then nothing's going

1208
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 3: to get better. And I don't think you're going to

1209
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: get anybody of any quality, at least not from outside

1210
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: of the agency to come in and an inside I

1211
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: don't know either if they're going to get somebody that's

1212
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: very interested in this because you you either have to

1213
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 3: compromise yourself or risk risk risk risk what is might

1214
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 3: might or likely happen to terry.

1215
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Speaker 4: Something that this issue five created. It highly politicized the

1216
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 4: job and tied the hands of the police chief in

1217
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 4: the city of Cincinnati. Ken, let's stop and we'll bring

1218
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 4: you back and get a couple of final words on

1219
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 4: the Dan. I'm sorry, I was thinking that I was

1220
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: looking up my interview with uh with Ken was on

1221
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 4: the fourteenth. You can go to fifty five KRC dot

1222
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 4: com check of the podcast that I was searching for

1223
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 4: that since you brought him up in my conversation earlier

1224
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 4: in this week one more with kr CB talk station.

1225
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 4: He Riday he ring with Thomas with FOP former FFP

1226
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 4: president Dan Hills. Dan, obviously, I think everyone can. Everyone

1227
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 4: can all political stripes can agree that may have to

1228
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 4: had pur Ball in a reactive mode. Wasn't out getting

1229
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 4: in front of crime issues. Crimes I guess has started building.

1230
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 4: We've got a societal breakdown problem, regardless of the genesis

1231
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 4: of it. His answer to it has been only to

1232
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 4: recently create and enforce the curfew. Now he's extended the

1233
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 4: hours of the curfew. But the curfew it is what

1234
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 4: it is. It's only a forced in certain neighborhoods. And

1235
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 4: I kind of scratched my head and wonder about it.

1236
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 4: There's fifty two neighborhoods in the city. What about the

1237
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 4: other neighborhoods where the curfew doesn't exist. I know they

1238
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 4: have crime problems there, but also the idea of putting

1239
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 4: swat and other police resources on Fountain Square at least

1240
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 4: at a larger presence until ten pm, I thought all

1241
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 4: the crap hit the fan. I know it happens during

1242
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 4: the day, but a lot of the criminal activity takes

1243
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 4: place after ten pm. So I just wanted your reaction

1244
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 4: to his most recent reactive efforts to deal with crime.

1245
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: But you know, you just you just sat right there.

1246
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: Reacting is never as good as being proactive, you know.

1247
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 3: But also, I'm gonna I'm going to say the same

1248
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 3: thing you've kind of said too, that the country and

1249
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 3: the big parts of the community are in a speech, spiritual,

1250
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 3: and cultural crisis. I mean, that's that's beyond the mayor's control,

1251
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 3: the chiefs control, and everybody else. It's and and then

1252
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: the next step down is the state doesn't have enough

1253
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 3: prison space for all the thuggery that needs to go

1254
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: to jail and stay in jail. And I don't know,

1255
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 3: if you know, taxpayers up here in Moren County and

1256
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 3: everybody else are necessarily going to want end on what

1257
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: it would take to house all the bad guys that

1258
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 3: we have in this state. And so this, you know,

1259
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 3: there's there's a problem there. The county judges, Oh my gosh,

1260
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 3: you've covered that all the time. And ninety you talked

1261
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 3: about ninety nine. She likes to she likes to bring

1262
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 3: up in detail the insanity that you have accounting judges.

1263
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 3: So you have all that, and then so what do

1264
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: you do. You get reactive because there's stuff beyond your

1265
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: control and like to swat the CDRT stuff. All that

1266
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 3: is doing is Robin Peter to pay Paul. You know,

1267
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 3: most of our SWAT members are CDR Team members. They're

1268
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 3: all in different assignments, and a whole lot of those

1269
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 3: assignments are patrol people and districts two, three, and four,

1270
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: And so now you're you're bringing them down.

1271
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 2: Well that you.

1272
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 3: Can't be two places at one time, right, and you

1273
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 3: can only work so much over time, and still be effective.

1274
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 3: So while I agree if I was, if I was

1275
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 3: the chief, or if Joe Strucker was the chief and

1276
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 3: I was advising, because I don't want to be your chief,

1277
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: but if I were there, I understand wanting to have

1278
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 3: those central business districts feel and be one hundred percent safe,

1279
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 3: and the best way you can do that is to

1280
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: occupy with an occupy an army.

1281
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: If you would.

1282
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: Back to the one hundred and fifty to two hundred

1283
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: cops that were short, maybe we even need to reconsider

1284
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 3: the complement of cops. But that takes us back to

1285
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: who wants to come work here. Been harder to get

1286
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 3: people to come to a police department a city that

1287
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 3: hires Irish role And one of my favorite topics in

1288
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: my years there the CCA, which is an anti police organization.

1289
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 3: So we're paying, we're paying tax dollars to have people

1290
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 3: that go out there and handicap the police department. I

1291
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 3: don't know how many times I can use the word

1292
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Speaker 3: insane in a single guest appearance on your show, Brian

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Speaker 3: to where you get tire, you got to come up,

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Speaker 3: you got to come up with some different terms there, Dan,

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Speaker 3: But it's insane. I mean it is insane that to

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Speaker 3: have the CCA and have it operate like it does.

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Speaker 3: It's insane to have Irish Roly and have her on

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Speaker 3: the payroll. And so then you end up getting reactive

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Speaker 3: and doing stuff like working people after death to have

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Speaker 3: presence in your central business district that you should have. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: if you had the proper number of cops. What's that

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Speaker 3: proper number, I don't know. I would I would say,

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Speaker 3: you know, it might be approaching like fourteen hundred cops

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Speaker 3: or something that you would like to have in a

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Speaker 3: city this size with the crime problems that it has

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Speaker 3: and the people that come into here for business and entertainment.

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Speaker 3: So you can't just go, oh, look, you know, we're

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Speaker 3: about the same size as you know, Salt Lake City

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Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't know, any think about the size

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Speaker 3: of Salt Lake City if they have a totally different

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Speaker 3: demographic and crime problem and don't have professional teams and

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Speaker 3: all the other stuff.

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Speaker 2: We need more cops. You know.

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Speaker 3: We can't control the spiritual and cultural crisis that's in

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Speaker 3: this country and in our communities. We can't control what's

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Speaker 3: going on as a state. The one thing we can

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Speaker 3: do is we can have more cops. And that's not

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Speaker 3: the chief problem, at least not alone. The city halls

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Speaker 3: problem that they haven't gone out there and been the

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Speaker 3: city that people want to come and work for and

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Speaker 3: then go and get the people that you need to

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Speaker 3: have that presence to do the best you can under

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Speaker 3: really bad circumstances here in the country.

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Speaker 4: Nop've been complaining about the lack of police office for

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Speaker 4: a long time. Pervall even said he wants to increase

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Speaker 4: the compliment. But the big hurdle here is getting the

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Speaker 4: bodies to apply. Whether they're going through an academy class

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Speaker 4: from start or they're a lateral hire. You got to

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Speaker 4: have well the dangling carrots have incentive to fro an

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Speaker 4: officer want to move over here in the city of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 4: And you pointed out a number of problems and challenges

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Speaker 4: we all face in that regard. I certainly appreciate Dan

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Speaker 4: Hillsy coming on the program today. It's been a great conversation.

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Speaker 4: Keep up the great work, and I knew you and

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Speaker 4: i'd be talking again soon. I hope take care of

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Speaker 4: my friend.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to it.

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Speaker 4: Brian take care five six fifty six fifty five Krcitytoxication

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Speaker 4: Congressman Warren seven oh six a bitch five kr cdtalk station.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate tuning at the fifty five Parase Morning Show. And

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you're here because listening right now because I

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Speaker 4: have Congressman Warren Davidson return into the program. Got some

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Speaker 4: issues to go over him, don't we. Congressman Davidson, welcome back,

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Speaker 4: my friend. It's a pleasure having you on the show.

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Speaker 7: Always an honor, and there's plenty going on. Nice to

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Speaker 7: talk with you, Brian.

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Speaker 4: So you're still on recess.

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Speaker 7: Correct, Well, you know it's hard to call it that.

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Speaker 7: It's a shutdown. So you know, we're just trying to

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Speaker 7: make lemonade out of the lemons that Democrats are handing

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Speaker 7: out here. Look, how did we get here? Look, Republicans said, Look,

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Speaker 7: we haven't agreed to fund the government the way that

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Speaker 7: we want to as the majority party. So let's just

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Speaker 7: call a truce and we'll pass a continuing resolution the

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Speaker 7: funds of the government at status quo levels, which is

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Speaker 7: the same thing that Democrats voted for when they had

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Speaker 7: the majority in the Senate and controlled the White House,

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Speaker 7: and it's the same thing they voted for in March

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Speaker 7: to keep the government funded for now, So we haven't

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Speaker 7: passed a true Republican funding priority right now. We did

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Speaker 7: change mandatory spending and we did, you know, do recisions,

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Speaker 7: and that's part of what's in their build. They want

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Speaker 7: to undo the things that we did with our majority,

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Speaker 7: and then they want to double down and add new

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Speaker 7: spending stuff that they added when they were in the

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Speaker 7: majority but got no Republican votes. And as a condition

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Speaker 7: of opening the government, they were one and a half

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Speaker 7: trillion dollars worth of funding priorities, and they were kind

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Speaker 7: enough to list it out in writing. I mean, some

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Speaker 7: of the stuff's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Well, I couldn't agree with you more. That's the setup

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Speaker 4: for the shutdown, and I you know, ownership of the shutdown.

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Speaker 4: I hate this argument who gets blamed for it among

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Speaker 4: the American people. But let me just this. You mentioned

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Speaker 4: we can turn lemonade out of the lemons that we

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Speaker 4: were dealt with here, and one of those things might

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Speaker 4: be firing a bunch of people. And so I have

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Speaker 4: to ask you this because it was just the other

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Speaker 4: day that a federal judge put an injunction on holding

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Speaker 4: these firings, granting a temporary straining order blocking the job cuts,

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Speaker 4: saying that the judge herself believes the ad evidence would

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Speaker 4: ultimately show that the cuts are illegal and in access

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Speaker 4: of Donald Trump's authority. So I'm thinking about that, under

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Speaker 4: what circumstance can one of these people be fired? Is

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Speaker 4: it always for cause? Or here's a better question. I

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Speaker 4: look and I see Nessley is slashing sixteen thousand jobs

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Speaker 4: private company. They're slashing it in order to bring about

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Speaker 4: greater efficiency and greater profit. If Donald Trump does that,

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Speaker 4: because we have a government that is way too damn big,

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Speaker 4: is it a political decision to right size the government

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Speaker 4: get rid of the excess the phrase of the doubling

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Speaker 4: down of efforts by various different agencies within the government

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Speaker 4: that all seem to be working toward the same goal.

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Speaker 4: Can't this be used as an opportunity to streamline the

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Speaker 4: government for the benefit of the American taxpayer. That's not

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Speaker 4: a political motivation. It's a financial motivation, is it not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: And look fair enough. You know Democrats might feel like

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Speaker 7: an agency that we feel is is it serving its purpose?

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Speaker 2: They might agree that.

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Speaker 7: They might think, oh, this is doing great things. You know,

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Speaker 7: we created this back in the thirties when FDR was president,

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Speaker 7: and so it must always exist. And it's like having

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Speaker 7: a starting pitch. Sure that, Okay, you've done a nice job,

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Speaker 7: but we're going down to the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: You know, congrats.

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Speaker 7: You don't have to be mean about it and say, hey,

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Speaker 7: thanks for your service, but it's time to move on.

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Speaker 7: And that's the kind of thing that we have with

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Speaker 7: a lot of our government structures, things that have served

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Speaker 7: their purpose and aren't doing it well. I mean, one

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Speaker 7: example is of the United Nations. You know, they were

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Speaker 7: created in the wake of World War two to promote peace.

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Speaker 7: They don't do a good job of promoting peace. We're

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Speaker 7: funding them within the borders of our own country, and

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Speaker 7: what we find they're doing with some of the money

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Speaker 7: is giving money to fuel this invasion of our country

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Speaker 7: of illegals. Now they want to put on a carbon tax,

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Speaker 7: all kinds of crazy stuff that they're doing to undermine

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Speaker 7: our own sovereignty. You look at the European Union, that

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Speaker 7: was also a vision to kind of create peace amongst

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Speaker 7: the European countries. They're facilitating an invasion of Europe of

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Speaker 7: all these you know migrants, and a lot of them

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Speaker 7: are from Muslim countries. You know that none of these

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Speaker 7: guys migrate to Muslim countries. They're not like flooding Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 7: They're flooding Europe. And look, Europe can do what they

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Speaker 7: want to with Europe, but they're asking us to pull

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Speaker 7: security for them with NATO, so we're pouring all of

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Speaker 7: our dollars over there. And meanwhile you've got people leaving

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Speaker 7: the United Kingdom, leaving France, leaving Germany, going to places

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Speaker 7: like Hungary to claim asylum so they won't get put

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Speaker 7: in jail for posting amme. I mean, it's crazy world

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Speaker 7: that we're in right now.

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Speaker 4: It is, and you know, to that point, in a

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Speaker 4: variety of other points, Europe has drifted into something that

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Speaker 4: we normally reject politically, socialism, you know, at the wide

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Speaker 4: open borders, the disruption of cultural norms and societal norms,

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Speaker 4: all that. I guess part of me wants to know

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Speaker 4: why we still consider them allies to a certain degree.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're funding their police force. In essence, our

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Speaker 4: American military has provided them defense now since World War Two.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump's taking great steps to force them to actually

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Speaker 4: protect and defend themselves. Help me, help you, basically, says

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump. So I guess this connection with Western Europe.

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Speaker 4: I don't really think it is what it used to be.

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Speaker 4: Congressman Davidson, Well.

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Speaker 7: Here's the thing. I mean, we used to have bipartisan

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Speaker 7: kind of view of foreign affairs a lot of times

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Speaker 7: in the country. But now Democrats that Democrats are essentially

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Speaker 7: the leadership of the European Union. I mean, they have

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Speaker 7: the same objectives and they want to do to America

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Speaker 7: what they're doing to Europe. And California. I mean, Gavin

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Speaker 7: Newsom wants to be our next president, and you're looking

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Speaker 7: at let's check the results here, buddy. No, you've wrecked

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Speaker 7: your country, You've wrecked your state. We certainly don't want

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Speaker 7: you to come do that to America and stay the

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Speaker 7: heck out of Ohio. So, I mean, this is the

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Speaker 7: kind of thing, and it's all in their list. I mean,

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Speaker 7: if you look at the funding that Chuck Schumer lists

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Speaker 7: out to say hey, we want one and a half

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Speaker 7: trillion dollars of new spending or restored spending, they're basically saying, hey,

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Speaker 7: we want to keep giving health care to illegals. We

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Speaker 7: want to take the fifty billion dollar fund that Republicans

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Speaker 7: gave to rural hospitals, and we want to turn that off.

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Speaker 7: We'll think of the crazy thing there. We're going to

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Speaker 7: take your money and give it to illegal aliens. And

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Speaker 7: then we have rural hospitals and you know, vast parts

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Speaker 7: of America that okay, not the heaviest population, you're going

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Speaker 7: to take that money and give even more of it

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Speaker 7: to illegals. I mean, some of the stuff that they're

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Speaker 7: talking about with healthcare that they want to do aside

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Speaker 7: from the illegals is really.

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Speaker 2: COVID plus ups.

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Speaker 7: We gave we had a pandemic, we plused up money

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Speaker 7: for COVID, right, And they're like, oh, well you can't

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Speaker 7: turn that off. Well, pandemics over why wouldn't we turn

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Speaker 7: it off?

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Speaker 4: Well? And that bill that had the expiration data, and

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Speaker 4: it was written by the Democrat's own hand, they're the

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Speaker 4: ones that put the cutoff data in there. They're the

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Speaker 4: ones that voted for that, and lo and behold, the

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Speaker 4: date's coming. And so they want to extend it. Like

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Speaker 4: every other government program, once it's alive and in operation,

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Speaker 4: it can never ever go away. That's their position on

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Speaker 4: these tax credits.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, which brings us back to Trump's and eliminade business.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 7: Hey, we said keep the government open. You're not keeping

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Speaker 7: it open. We get a certain amount of cash in

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Speaker 7: the vaults, so we're gonna make sure we do things

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Speaker 7: like pay our troops. We're going to operate the Fund

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Speaker 7: for Women and Infant Children, you know, the WICK program

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Speaker 7: out there that gives baby formula and diapers to new

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Speaker 7: mothers that are needy. And Democrats are threatening to sue

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Speaker 7: the Trump administration. Thus the judge you're referencing to say, well,

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Speaker 7: you can't do that. It's not legal for you to

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Speaker 7: fund the troops. It's not legal for you to give

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Speaker 7: money to needy mothers. I think how far off course

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Speaker 7: Democrats are with where they're at. They're like, well, if

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Speaker 7: Trump's for it, it must be bad. You're like, you

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Speaker 7: guys need to pull up and check what you're doing here.

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Speaker 7: And they're just way at a sink. And I think

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Speaker 7: eventually they're gonna get pressure from the public to say

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01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 7: knock it off unless get the government open and get

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01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 7: things underway. But in the meantime, I think the Trump

1506
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 7: administras is gonna do exactly what you said. They're gonna

1507
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 7: right size it. They're gonna get it to say, yeah,

1508
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 7: this over here doesn't even function right anymore, and they

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01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 7: put all that stuff in a budget. Generally, Congress, even

1510
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 7: when it's our own party, ignores the White House budget

1511
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 7: and just keeps the status quo going. But here's a

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01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 7: chance for us to break from it. Who knows, maybe

1513
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 7: when Republicans come back in. We've got a majority in

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01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 7: the House. Technically there's a bipartisan majority in the Senate.

1515
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 7: Democrats have joined with Republicans in the Senate, they got

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01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 7: up to fifty six. I think they're down to fifty

1517
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 7: one senators. I don't know who's present and who's as in,

1518
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 7: but they've they've voted like nine times in the Senate.

1519
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 7: They've always had a majority to keep the government open.

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01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 7: But their rules in the Senate say sixty. I mean,

1521
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 7: that's one of the things we could do is just

1522
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 7: to quote nuclear option on funding and then we'll just

1523
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 7: pass Republican priorities. I don't know if that's where it leads,

1524
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 7: but in the meantime, lemonade.

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01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 4: There you go. And there's always a question of you know,

1526
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 4: there is a potential for a change in administration. If

1527
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 4: you give this nuclear option to go, it's going to

1528
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 4: exist for the next administration. And God knows what that

1529
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 4: might lead to. Congressman Warren Davidson, let's pause. I have

1530
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 4: one question to ask you about the UN, since you

1531
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 4: brought up the carbon tax, but I also want to

1532
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 4: pivot over to the situation unfolded. Brother dre Andre un

1533
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 4: comeing up the bottom of the hour on the police

1534
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 4: chief threes a thigi thing, the violence of downten cents,

1535
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 4: and he outspoken. He is follow him online and Congressman

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01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 4: Warren Davids is on the program right now, and thank

1537
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 4: you for your service for our country. I was pleased

1538
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 4: to see at least Donald Trump is making sure the

1539
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 4: troops are going to get paid. Obviously a huge support

1540
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 4: of America's military, am I and I know that it's

1541
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 4: near and dear topic to your heart, But that's only

1542
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 4: gonna be a temporary fix. We got to get the

1543
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 4: government back open. But since you mentioned the UN, and

1544
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 4: I've obviously profound disappointment and are even involving ourselves with

1545
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 4: the UN because it doesn't seem to be able to

1546
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 4: accomplish anything. But they did come out with this proposal

1547
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 4: to start levying global taxes on countries in the name

1548
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 4: of I don't know, global warming or whatever. I just

1549
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 4: have a simple question. Assuming I'm president of the United

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01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 4: States of America, and I have two words for the

1551
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 4: UN in holding its hand out and asking me to

1552
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 4: write a check. I got two words. Date happy birthday.

1553
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 4: As my dad would say, How can they force us

1554
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 4: or any other country to pay anything? What if the

1555
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 4: collective world just said, you know what, screw you. You

1556
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 4: don't have any authority to collect at tax from us?

1557
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think that's exactly what's going to happen.

1558
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 7: We're not going to pay at tax to them. No

1559
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 7: one owes them attacks. They have no authority to collect

1560
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 7: at tax. But this is the kind of stuff that

1561
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 7: they're over there working on with. I mean, they're essentially

1562
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 7: a charitable organization funded by governments from all over the world,

1563
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 7: and they send people there to, you know, essentially trample

1564
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 7: on American sovereignty. And yeah, if you're anti American, you

1565
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 7: could go, yeah, hwan's great. It's helping us undermine our adversaries.

1566
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 7: But if you're in the United States or one of

1567
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 7: our allies, you're like, what are you guys doing again?

1568
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 7: I mean, what have they done that's productive? If you

1569
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 7: look up and say, in the last fifty years, What

1570
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 7: are the highlight reel out of the UN? And I

1571
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 7: can't find any?

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 4: Well, you know what wasn't the theories behind even establishing

1573
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 4: or creating a UN following the failure that was the

1574
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 4: League of Nation sort of create a peaceful world for

1575
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 4: us all to live in. Where the hell was the

1576
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 4: UN when Donald Trump was negotiating peace with the Israelis

1577
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 4: in the Hamas members well.

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01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 2: Or any other any other.

1579
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, when's the last time?

1580
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: When's the last?

1581
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 7: I mean, they're not doing it, and they're not getting results,

1582
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 7: and they're not even helping the people that are doing it.

1583
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 7: In fact, often they're undermining. And that's I thought the

1584
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 7: Donald Trump's UN speech was great. I mean I just

1585
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 7: laid it out. I was like, yeah, uh, you know

1586
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 7: the eight places that we negotiated peace, I didn't even

1587
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 7: get a phone call.

1588
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got no.

1589
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 7: Help at all, nothing whatsoever from the group that's actually

1590
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 7: supposed to be doing this right, and they haven't produced it.

1591
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 7: And when you find out, look, what has what is Hama?

1592
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 7: What has Hamas got to do with the peace in

1593
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 7: the UN? Well, the UN was funding UNRA, which was

1594
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 7: supposed to help with refugees, and they were actively enabling Hamas.

1595
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 7: I mean, these are the kinds of things where the

1596
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 7: UN has actually been co opted to undermine peace, not

1597
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 7: to promote it.

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01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 4: So my suspicion has always been the only reason we

1599
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,879
Speaker 4: remain in the UN, considering its ongoing efforts to undermine

1600
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 4: everything that we stand for. It's a base of operations

1601
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 4: for the CIA to gather intelligence from these various countries

1602
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 4: around the world. Am I right? Am I wrong? You

1603
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 4: think I'm close? It sounds plausible, Yeah, okay, plausible is

1604
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 4: good enough from a Congressman Arn Davidson who has security clearances.

1605
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 4: All right. Moving over to the situation in Gaza, it

1606
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 4: sounds like, I mean, a glorious day. The hostages were release.

1607
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 4: The world celebrated that the bullets weren't flying. But the

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01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 4: devil's always in the details, as I wanted, I'm prone

1609
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 4: to saying all the time. And I read this morning

1610
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 4: and yesterday in the day before the Hamas people are

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01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 4: going around and gunning down Palestinians, those that they claim

1612
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 4: we're working in cooperation with the Israelis or at least

1613
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 4: incoordinated effort to undermine Hamas. They're slaughtering their own people.

1614
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 4: Donald Trump has said they have to disarm, and I

1615
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 4: would think disarmament would mean taking away the AK forty

1616
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 4: seven's used to well murder members of Palestinian people. But

1617
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 4: is this going to last? Do you get a sense

1618
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 4: that this is actually going to take hold? Is this

1619
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 4: just the last gasp of Hamas getting it out of

1620
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 4: its system before it's completely thrown out?

1621
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 7: Now, look, there was not a total victory here, so

1623
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 7: you know, this was not an unconditional surrender by Hamas.

1624
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 7: It was essentially a negotiated settlement.

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01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 3: Short of that.

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01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 7: So a lot of the Hamas military, the leadership that

1627
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 7: remained alive, but a lot of them were killed by Israel.

1628
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 7: But the remnant is now converting themselves into a quote

1629
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 7: police force. And what are they doing with their policing. Well,

1630
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 7: it's not like you know, our Bill of Rights or anything.

1631
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 7: They're just saying, look, these guys are anti Hamas and

1632
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 7: they're open to working with Israel, and they want to

1633
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 7: guy that isn't governed by by us Hamas. So they

1634
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 7: get a bullet. There's no trial, there's no like, uh,

1635
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 7: you know, let's let's have a poll. Let's let's go

1636
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 7: have a election day and select leadership. Uh, there's there's

1637
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 7: none of that in Gaza. And the only way it's

1638
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 7: going to get into Gaza is if it's imposed. And

1639
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 7: Benjamin Netanya, who is in the act of imposing it.

1640
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 7: So uh, you know, unfortunately, war is horrible, uh and

1641
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 7: you know, and for good reason. I mean you're killing

1642
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 7: people and destroying things. I mean it's a terrible uh

1643
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 7: state for humans to get to a war. Middle East,

1644
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 7: that's they've seen an awful lot of it. But I

1645
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 7: don't know how you reconcile.

1646
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

1647
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 7: You know, people that want literally they're raised their kids

1648
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 7: from cradle to grave, death to Israel, death to America,

1649
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 7: you know, from the river to the sea. You know,

1650
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 7: all this mindset of just kill, kill, kill because we

1651
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 7: disagree with these people, and it isn't.

1652
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 3: Going to happen overnight.

1653
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 7: So we've got progress and hopefully some of the people

1654
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 7: that are anti Hamas and anti terror will take control

1655
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 7: of their own affairs. I mean, that's the only way

1656
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 7: they're going to be a little to live in peace.

1657
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 4: Well, and I think that's something the Middle East countries

1658
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 4: that surround the area, you know, Saudi Arabia, Cutter and others,

1659
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 4: some who have already entered into the Abraham Peace Accords.

1660
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 4: I think they realize that threat threatens their existence. They

1661
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 4: finally have come around to the realization that playing nice

1662
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 4: with terrorist organizations is indeed an existential threat to their

1663
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 4: own governments, in their own countries existence. You got any

1664
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,480
Speaker 4: comment on that before we part company, Congressman Davidson.

1665
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly the framework. I mean, President Trump did

1666
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 7: a great job of building alliances with the Air of nations.

1667
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 7: I mean Cutter, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and others were there

1668
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 7: celebrating the signing of this peace agreement, and they've committed

1669
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 7: to be part of rebuilding Gaza. So, you know, the

1670
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 7: hope is that with their influence, they can show look,

1671
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 7: you can be you know, Muslim and not hostile, like

1672
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 7: you can live in peace. It doesn't have to be

1673
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,919
Speaker 7: this endless jihad is the only path to be Muslim.

1674
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 7: And there are Muslim countries where they've lived in pretty good,

1675
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 7: peaceful situations and they're you know, kudos to NBS in

1676
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 7: Saudi Arabia. They're modernizing their country in a lot of ways.

1677
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 7: If you look at Dubai, they're doing things that are

1678
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 7: blending modern world with their faith, and you know, Hey,

1679
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 7: that's what they should do. I mean, you know, I

1680
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 7: believe they should follow Jesus, but I'm not going to

1681
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 7: go kill them for it. Right, they believe I should

1682
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 7: follow Mohammed. Hopefully they'll get to the people that feel

1683
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 7: like they should just kill us as infidels over that

1684
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 7: and say, you know, we can agree to disagree on that. Yeah,

1685
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 7: and if they can, you know, maybe we can have

1686
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 7: some peace over there.

1687
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 4: There. You go, proselytize, make your argument, and we'll all

1688
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 4: draw our own conclusions about which direction we want to go. Davidson,

1689
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 4: thank you for your service to our country in your

1690
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 4: in your service in the military, as your service as

1691
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 4: a representative, and thank you to the voters who put

1692
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 4: you in office. You do a great job. And I'm

1693
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 4: thank thanking you especially for your willingness to come on

1694
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 4: and talk about these issues with my listeners and me,

1695
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 4: my friend, have a wonderful day, keep your fingers crossed,

1696
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 4: and we'll hope for better times moving forward. I'd care

1697
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 4: to see the talk station k S talk station. I

1698
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 4: was going to say, Brian Thomas happy to have in

1699
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 4: studio brother dre Andre Ewing with comments about what's going

1700
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 4: on in downtown Cincinnati. He was in traffic a little bit.

1701
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 4: He was front of moll Or High School, which means

1702
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 4: he will be on here or he is on his way.

1703
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 4: But because he's stopping in the studio, just going to

1704
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 4: do a couple of local stories here and we'll bring

1705
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 4: in brother Dre in the next segment, because I feel

1706
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 4: pretty confident he will have arrived by them. So here

1707
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 4: we go. Identity the person killed in a hit and

1708
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 4: run in Butler County earlier on Saturday. They've been released.

1709
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 4: Butler kind of Corner's Office said the call report of

1710
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 4: the person was hit by a white van traveling eastbound

1711
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 4: on Riley Millville Road near Woodbine about six o'clock in

1712
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 4: the morning. Deputy shot there. They found Corey mcquitty, twenty

1713
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 4: three years old, dead in the road. That's for the coroner.

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01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 4: He said that mcquitty's cause of death was multiple traumatic

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01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 4: inn injuries. The white van is believed to have fled

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01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 4: the scene. Ergo. If you have any information, Deputys and

1717
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 4: Warren County want to hear from you, Specifically Stargeant Stephen Poff.

1718
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 4: Sergeant Pop can be reached at five one, three seven

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01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 4: eight five twelve eighteen residents on Reading Road calling for

1720
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 4: urgent safety measures. This after a series of crashes at

1721
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 4: the intersection of Reading and Goalbirth local property under there.

1722
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 4: Interviewed by Local twelve Donlykins called the road a race track,

1723
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 4: vehicles often exceeding the twenty five mile an hour speed limit.

1724
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 4: He's witnessed at least one crash per month, so he's

1725
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 4: advocating four what do you think speed bumps out? Department

1726
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 4: of Transportation reports that fifteen thousand motorists use Retting Road

1727
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 4: on a daily basis. One hundred and twenty crashes resulting

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01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 4: in injuries happened between twenty twenty twenty twenty four. Internadministrator

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01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 4: Safety Services Director Patrick Ross said that Renting Road has

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01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 4: been selected as a heavy traffic safety corridor by o

1731
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 4: DOT initiative part of a pilot speed study which is

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01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 4: seeking to reduce vehicle speeds to the posted twenty five

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01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 4: mile per hour limit. City of Cincinnati collaborating with ODOT

1734
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 4: on a three point two million dollar project paid for

1735
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 4: by the state. Was Stage one, expected to be in October.

1736
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,600
Speaker 4: No idea what stage two is, but Stage three is,

1737
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 4: of course profit. Proposed changes include reducing lanes, improving crosswalks,

1738
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 4: raising medians it remains unserved with speed humps will be

1739
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 4: part of the final design. So slowing things down because

1740
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 4: people are well idiots when it comes to driving through

1741
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 4: twenty five mile hour persons going like fifty. So without

1742
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 4: that will pause from Roman andre Ewing in the house

1743
01:30:58,200 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 4: and beyond the program next that you can stick our

1744
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 4: get some motor egged and happy Friday Eve in the house. Man.

1745
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 4: I'm telling you this guy gets me, Rile that he

1746
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 4: gets me shouting at the computer and doing high fives

1747
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 4: when no one's in the room when I'm watching what

1748
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 4: he has to say. Andre Ewing, Curse Breakers three hundred.

1749
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 4: He can explain to you about that again. But welcome back, Andrea.

1750
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 4: You are an outspoken i'll say, critic, but not always critic.

1751
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 4: You praise stuff that's good and you attack things politically

1752
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 4: that are bad. Retired police officer, you had thirty years

1753
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 4: of police a service under your belt, right, Yes, sir,

1754
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 4: you've seen it all. Yes you remember the days before

1755
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 4: issue five and you obviously there were problems. You can

1756
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 4: even mention that if you choose to, it wasn't a

1757
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 4: perfect system back then. I know a lot of police

1758
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 4: officers weren't thrilled with Chief Tom Striker being police chief.

1759
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 4: And you know, but now we have it completely politicized.

1760
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 4: And of course the conversation brought up because a lot

1761
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 4: of rumors swirling around the police chief. Thiji's job was

1762
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 4: on the line. She got hauled back from her police

1763
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 4: convention conference and sort of why did she go in

1764
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 4: the middle of all this chaos is a question. But

1765
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 4: at least she wasn't well watching when it all hit

1766
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 4: the fan. So, but it's become politicized. Mayor, I have

1767
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 4: to have purvall the city manager have total control over

1768
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 4: who gets hired and who gets fired. And a lot

1769
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 4: of suggestions, I know you were listening to Dan Hills

1770
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 4: this morning, that that creates this sort of capitulation someone

1771
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 4: who could be a strong leader, someone who might have

1772
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 4: great ideas about policing and might run a foul of

1773
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 4: what Pervoll and the manager and the city manager want,

1774
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 4: which means their jobs on the line if they disagree.

1775
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 4: That is not a good view from my standpoint, And

1776
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 4: here we find ourselves today a lot of crime in downtown.

1777
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 4: Have to have Parvoll, with his election on the line,

1778
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 4: doing a lot of things, or at least paying lip

1779
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 4: service to it. But now we've got this wrinkle in

1780
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 4: the thing about maybe Chief Fiji's going to lose her job.

1781
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 4: Is any of this her fault? Andre Ewing, welcome back, man, Hey.

1782
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 11: I appreciate it, brother Brian. It's always a pleasure. I

1783
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 11: want to give a shout out to my wife, Danielle Ewing,

1784
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 11: who's a police officer as will and also a breast

1785
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 11: cancer survived, so having breast Cancer Awareness month. Just want

1786
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 11: to talk to all my survivors and your thrivers so

1787
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 11: we love you and keep fighting.

1788
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 4: And then thank you very much for bringing that up.

1789
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 11: Absolutely, let's get down to the truth, brother Brian, because

1790
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 11: I'm not gonna water it down. I've always said that

1791
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 11: Fiji has no business being the chief.

1792
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: Now.

1793
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 11: Now, Dan Hills was on the show talking about she

1794
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 11: did better than what I thought? What is better than? Okay,

1795
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 11: we clearly said that Lisa Davis was the better choice.

1796
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 11: And what rings in my mind is December tenth, twenty

1797
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 11: twenty two. That rings in my mind. Why because Cheryl

1798
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 11: Long and Scottie Johnson walked into District two and started

1799
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:47,600
Speaker 11: to ask us questions, what chief do we want? And

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01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 11: it's interesting because I've been on your show before and

1801
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 11: overwhelmingly we told the city manager, do not place Terretha

1802
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 11: Thiji out of chief position. And it was almost like

1803
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 11: we were begging her overwhelmingly one hundred percent in the room,

1804
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 11: and they did an assessment and overwhelmingly you heard even

1805
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 11: Dan Hill say, yeah, we weren't for Thiji. It was overwhelmingly,

1806
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 11: and you still chose somebody that everybody said do not do.

1807
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 11: So I'm not gonna just say Thiji should go once again,

1808
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 11: having a convention out of town during all this telling

1809
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 11: chiefs what what not to do and how to talk

1810
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 11: to criminals to just behave This is absolutely ridiculous.

1811
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 4: You know, it's revealing of a pattern because as you

1812
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 4: were talking about that, who is most I mean, the

1813
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,919
Speaker 4: city residents obviously impacted by who's running the police department,

1814
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 4: but that's one thing. But she is there to keep

1815
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 4: the police department organized, to hire and fire the right people,

1816
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 4: to give promotions to hopefully the merit based right people,

1817
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. So you're most impacted as a

1818
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 4: police officer. Overwhelming support for someone other than tig That

1819
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 4: sounds remarkably like the city council and this mayor's treatment

1820
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 4: of the residents of Hyde Park who were overwhelmingly against

1821
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 4: that damn development project so much so that they got

1822
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 4: it on the ballot to have it repealed. That's what

1823
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 4: forced the city to capitulate in this particular case. Doesn't

1824
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 4: sound like the city is capitulating anything. They're like, okay,

1825
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 4: you want that police chief. Sorry, screw you, guys, We're

1826
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 4: going with DG anyway.

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01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 11: Correct, which is ridiculous. That's why Sheryl Loan cannot get

1828
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 11: off the hook. And what makes her a specialist in

1829
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 11: picking and choosing the right police chief? What skills does

1830
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 11: she have to disregard an entire police force? And how

1831
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 11: do you just get that power from individuals who have

1832
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 11: no experience in policing. And we see the results of

1833
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 11: that decision. And so it's interesting because Fiji is collateral

1834
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 11: damage being placed in a position that it was really Hey, Chief,

1835
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 11: we're begging you, don't take it because you're not ready.

1836
01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 11: You're being set up by a highly political process. And

1837
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 11: this is the results of leadership. That's why I said

1838
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 11: Aftab needs to go, Sheryl Long needs to go as

1839
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 11: well as Chief and Iris Rowley because we keep hearing

1840
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 11: about this collaborative agreement. Will somebody, a professional attorney sit

1841
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 11: down and really break down this entire process because you

1842
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 11: hear it so much. It's it's a document that we

1843
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 11: need to know what exactly is in those documents that

1844
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 11: appears to be that IRIS has so much power in

1845
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 11: this situation, and we will.

1846
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 4: Bring that topic back up. We're bumping up against the

1847
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 4: break here. Andre a Ewing brother Dre. You can find

1848
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 4: him online. He's going to revamp his Facebook pagees currently

1849
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 4: it's under a Ewing. I follow him. You gotta watch

1850
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 4: his weekly videos. They are you'll find yourself high fiving

1851
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 4: no one in the room while he's talking about it.

1852
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 4: Forty five fifty five The Doug zasion quickly mentioned for

1853
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 4: in exchange. Because you want to save everydy should if

1854
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 4: I had KARS the talk station seven nine here fifty

1855
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 4: five krc DE talk station. Andre. You check him out

1856
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 4: on Facebook. I recommend you checking out what he has

1857
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 4: to say each and every week. Outspoken observer, critic, sometimes

1858
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 4: sometimes supporter, but things going on in the city of Cincinnati,

1859
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 4: bringing his thirty years of law enforcement experience and observations

1860
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 4: and never pulling any punches on it. So check him out.

1861
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 4: You said you're going to rename your page at some point, Andre, Yeah.

1862
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 11: Sir, it's going to be under a Curse Breakers three

1863
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 11: hundred right now, cars Breakers three hundred dash Brother Dre

1864
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 11: is going to be revamped. But it definitely Brother Dre

1865
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:46,719
Speaker 11: and Curse Breakers three hundred.

1866
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 4: So definitely let you know, all right, and you'd be

1867
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 4: doing the same thing even under the different all right, yes,

1868
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 4: because I would hate if that weren't away. Absolutely Back

1869
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 4: to Iris rol you're talking met You've never personally seen

1870
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 4: the collaborative agreement? Are you suggesting? Is it's kind of

1871
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 4: like a hidden document. It's not like I can't search

1872
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:04,560
Speaker 4: for the SENSEI Collaborative Agreement and come up with a

1873
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 4: full page PDF for the whole thing.

1874
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 11: And it's interesting because nobody seems to know the heart

1875
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 11: of the collaborative agreement. The mayor has thrown it around

1876
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 11: a lot in the debate. He threw it up, And

1877
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 11: so what needs to happen to the citizens of Cincinnati

1878
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 11: since it's being brought up and Iris Rollie's name is

1879
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 11: being brought up presented to the city, read verbatim the

1880
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 11: structure and the importance of it. Now we do understand

1881
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 11: that from the Tim Thomas murder, from the police officer

1882
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 11: and the issues that occurred there, that the collaborative Agreement

1883
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:43,560
Speaker 11: was started and the profiling that officers were doing, so

1884
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 11: it was needed. But now here we are it was refreshed.

1885
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 11: What exactly is in there? Because I'm tired of hearing

1886
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 11: about it and tired of hearing that she's at the

1887
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 11: table dictating what rules are in or not. So will

1888
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 11: somebody show up verbatim and that should come from the

1889
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 11: chief or city manager or mayor, since you're referring to

1890
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 11: it but showing us no facts of her position dealing

1891
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:09,599
Speaker 11: with this all right?

1892
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 4: And I had read Signal ninety nine's post, and there

1893
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 4: was a reference in there that Iris Roly did do

1894
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 4: a presentation to law enforcement officials and other services that

1895
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,639
Speaker 4: the governor offered. So before you come here to work

1896
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 4: for two days a week, maybe now four days a week,

1897
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 4: you got to listen to a sermon by Iris Roley.

1898
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 4: I'm boiling down what she said, but presumably I can

1899
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 4: imagine since she was there for the creation of and

1900
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 4: was an integral part of establishing the collaborative Agreement, that

1901
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 4: she doesn't know what's in it. But is it everybody's

1902
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 4: understanding that she was telling the officers and officials what's

1903
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 4: in there and what they have to do by way

1904
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 4: of how to conduct their policing activities in the city,

1905
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 4: or was she providing her own version of it, because

1906
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 4: that's where the wording in the collaborative Agreement is so

1907
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 4: damn important. Question number two and I think you know

1908
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 4: the answer to this or can guess it. Is there

1909
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 4: anything in the collaborate Agreement that allows for the designation

1910
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 4: of a pope or an i mom or a grand

1911
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 4: Pooba of the collaborative agreement? How did she land in

1912
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 4: that role as a highly paid consultant going around telling

1913
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 4: people how to do things?

1914
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 2: And you know what?

1915
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 11: Those are the mystery questions that need to be answered

1916
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 11: to find out exactly what is her position as you see,

1917
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 11: it never was told to us even after everything occurred.

1918
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 11: And seeing this is where a Chief Thiji is a

1919
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 11: problem as well, because you haven't spoken out even when

1920
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 11: she was out harassing officers, So what exactly is happening?

1921
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 11: No one actually came forward to present and say this

1922
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:46,560
Speaker 11: is a problem. So until we actually know under what

1923
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 11: power she has, this is constantly going to be confused.

1924
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Speaker 11: She can address it to the osp and say we

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Speaker 11: want you to follow this collaborative agreement and resources say

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Speaker 11: that there was a memorandum that they had to sign

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Speaker 11: and follow, But what are you following? And that is

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Speaker 11: the question that the citizens and taxpayers need to know.

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Speaker 4: That's an excellent observation, all right. Pivoting over to something

1930
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Speaker 4: the mayor seems to want to embrace, and I know

1931
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Speaker 4: Cranleigh was wanted to embrace the idea of hiring more

1932
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Speaker 4: police officers. Were down a couple of hundred more taking

1933
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Speaker 4: early drop. I mean, they're not even sticking out the

1934
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 4: entire drop program. They're just washing their hands up and saying,

1935
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Speaker 4: I'm out senior officers losing experience, and we don't have

1936
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Speaker 4: enough younger officers fill in the rank. So this concept

1937
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Speaker 4: of lateral hires has come up. Sounds brilliant, you know,

1938
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Speaker 4: DANGELA carative incentive over here in the city of Cincinnati

1939
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Speaker 4: for someone to quit their suburban police officer job and

1940
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Speaker 4: work in the city. That sounds like a tough road

1941
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Speaker 4: to ho there, andre Ewing, what in your perception should

1942
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 4: the city do to get people to want to come

1943
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Speaker 4: and work in the cincinnai police department. I mean, is

1944
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 4: there a simple solution to that, because everybody's climbing for

1945
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 4: officers out there in the world.

1946
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Speaker 11: Correct, and leadership is the key. Once again, no one

1947
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 11: wants to be a police, no one. This is a

1948
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 11: serious issue. And this is why you release the full

1949
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Speaker 11: package with the OSP. And this is interesting because this

1950
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 11: could be a test temperature to say, we're gonna test

1951
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Speaker 11: how the OSP. We release the full package. We allow

1952
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 11: them to do their traffic stops, their investigations, help with

1953
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 11: cis all the things the police need. That means what

1954
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 11: more officers? So if you already have the funding to

1955
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 11: give us the OSP, why would you keep complaining about

1956
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 11: we need to hire more officers. Here's the test, baby,

1957
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 11: right here. Release all these officers at your disposal. This

1958
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Speaker 11: leadership is ridiculous. I just gave you the blueprint. Release

1959
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Speaker 11: it and see how this goes. And you will see

1960
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Speaker 11: when we get more officers. Here is already the blueprint

1961
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 11: that's been set. Release the full package.

1962
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Speaker 4: Get the full package. Get if the officer could numbers

1963
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 4: back up to where they should be, and let's see

1964
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Speaker 4: if it works at least right, absolute, that's what you're saying, Absolutely,

1965
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Speaker 4: try it out. You know what, maybe in six months

1966
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Speaker 4: from now, if they did all that, just flooded the

1967
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Speaker 4: streets with every day twenty four hours, seven days a week,

1968
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 4: the additional resources, and six months from now, if crime

1969
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 4: is gone up or things haven't changed, you can say,

1970
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Speaker 4: you know what, it isn't the amount of officers. It's

1971
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 4: got to be something else. Thank you very much, andre Ewing,

1972
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Speaker 4: you are the vehicle for such logic and common sense

1973
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 4: to make it out to the residents and the folks

1974
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 4: who listen to this conversation on the fifty five Carsee

1975
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 4: Morning Show. My friend, you always have a welcome spot here.

1976
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 4: I enjoy what you do every week and again I'll

1977
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 4: encourage my listeners to check out what you've got to

1978
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 4: say and enjoy your reaction to Andre Ewing's words.

1979
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Speaker 1: Krc Talkstation.

1980
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Speaker 4: A six here fifty five KRSIT Talk station. The continuous

1981
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,639
Speaker 4: theme here though on this fifty five Carssee Morning show.

1982
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Speaker 4: What's going on in the city of Cincinnati and welcome

1983
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Speaker 4: back to the fifty five Carsite Morning Show. Always a pleasure.

1984
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 4: Liz Keating, former counselman, she's running again. We hope she

1985
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Speaker 4: gets elect at least I do gust Drekker does. Andre

1986
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Speaker 4: Ewing's got your back. Liz Keaty, welcome back to the

1987
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Speaker 4: fifty five Carcy Morning Show. It's a pleasure to have

1988
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Speaker 4: you back on the show.

1989
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Speaker 12: Thanks for having me. It's always a pleasure to be on.

1990
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Speaker 4: Well, and we're excited and we hope that that voters

1991
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Speaker 4: give you another shot. At very turbulent times and politics

1992
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 4: in downtown Cincinnati and surprising, I think me and everybody

1993
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 4: else who fully is aware of how blue the city

1994
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 4: is in terms of its democratic leanings. Mary, I have

1995
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 4: to have purval. Seems to be scrambling to respond to

1996
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:37,759
Speaker 4: the crime problem at least that we've gotten downtown Cincinnati.

1997
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Speaker 4: But a little late in the day as we get

1998
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 4: closer and closer, only a few weeks away from voting,

1999
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 4: but he's getting he's it seems to have he's gone

2000
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Speaker 4: into overdrive mode. And now we have this additional wrinkle

2001
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 4: that maybe Police Chief Teresa Thiji might get fired. What's

2002
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 4: your reaction has as you see things unfold?

2003
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's a little too late. You know,

2004
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 12: of people, the residents of Cincinnati have long been saying

2005
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 12: they don't feel safe. We've seen violent crime continue to

2006
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 12: pick up and we've heard council members. I mean, we've

2007
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:11,560
Speaker 12: had candidate forums. There's been canet forums several weeks, for

2008
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 12: many weeks leading up to this election. And they're incumbent

2009
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 12: council members who consistently say that these candiate forums everything,

2010
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 12: it's fine, we're lying about crime. Crime is going down.

2011
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 12: Nothing to see here, And they didn't want to face

2012
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 12: the facts. They didn't want to admit what was going on.

2013
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 12: They didn't want to listen to residents who are saying,

2014
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,719
Speaker 12: I just don't feel safe, let alone. We know news

2015
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,640
Speaker 12: every morning there's been shooting after shooting after shooting, and

2016
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:39,759
Speaker 12: they don't do anything. And now all of a sudden

2017
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 12: they're panicking and trying to make changes right before an election.

2018
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Speaker 12: This is not how we want our city to be run.

2019
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Speaker 12: We need leaders who are willing to face the facts

2020
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Speaker 12: and take action right away, not try to hide it

2021
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 12: until it's too late leading up to an election. I

2022
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 12: just want better leadership and we need change in Cincinnati

2023
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Speaker 12: the way.

2024
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Speaker 4: And I guess, looking just at the issue of the

2025
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 4: police chief, I don't personally blame police Chief three cy

2026
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 4: Thigi for the violence in downtown Cincinnati. She is working

2027
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Speaker 4: with a contingent of police officers, which is at least,

2028
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 4: as we understand it, a couple of hundred less than

2029
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 4: what we could fully use in downtown Cincinnati. But given

2030
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Speaker 4: the way the police chiefs are appointed and fired, that

2031
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Speaker 4: that power rests soling the hands of the mayor and

2032
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Speaker 4: the city manager, neither of whom know anything about policing

2033
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Speaker 4: generally speaking. I don't know how what their role in

2034
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 4: what their position and those roles is that gives them

2035
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Speaker 4: the the the the knowledge and the skills necessary to

2036
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 4: select a good police chief. But the political reality of

2037
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 4: that is that the police chiefs beholden to the political

2038
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Speaker 4: whims of those two people, which are not in the

2039
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Speaker 4: interests of the police department. I don't think in the

2040
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Speaker 4: interests of the city of Cincinnati. Voters will decide that.

2041
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 4: But should we go back to the way it was

2042
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Speaker 4: before Issue five got passed, Liz, I think yeah.

2043
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Speaker 12: I think that is a very valid point. Ken Korb

2044
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 12: has been very loud about that as well, to give

2045
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Speaker 12: that buffer. So for the listeners who don't know what

2046
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,919
Speaker 12: that means, that means we could potentially have a situation

2047
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 12: right now the city manager can can fire the police

2048
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 12: chief or the fire chief. You know, any time, for

2049
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 12: any reason, the mayor can fire the city manager. But

2050
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,680
Speaker 12: to put a little buffer in place, to require a

2051
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 12: vote of city council, say seven votes of city council,

2052
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Speaker 12: to approve the firing of somebody.

2053
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:27,839
Speaker 2: That gives them a little.

2054
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Speaker 12: Buffer to actually do their job and not to sit

2055
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 12: it on and and be beholden to the political powers

2056
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:38,679
Speaker 12: and and have to deal with the politicization of their jobs.

2057
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 12: I really like that idea, and it gives them just

2058
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 12: much more room to actually act in the professional manners

2059
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 12: that they're supposed to like. Actually police actually make tough

2060
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 12: decisions that may not be politically expedient for those who

2061
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 12: are in office. I think it's a very valid point,

2062
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 12: something that we should continue to debate and look at,

2063
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 12: because otherwise you're going to continuously see this, especially leading

2064
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 12: into an election season.

2065
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 4: Well, I suppose on some level, given the nature of

2066
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 4: how she was appointed as police chief, that her if

2067
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:13,640
Speaker 4: she is fired, the question will be why are you

2068
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 4: firing her? Is it because of these of the violence

2069
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 4: in the city, since I and you have misallocated the

2070
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 4: resources in the city, or is an acknowledgment that because

2071
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,600
Speaker 4: she follows the policies of the city manager, and I

2072
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 4: have to have pro ball that it's a reflection of

2073
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 4: their own failure by appointing her in the first place,

2074
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Speaker 4: or by dictating how she runs the office. I mean,

2075
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 4: that's like, that's like blaming yourself if you fire her.

2076
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 12: I mean, you have to have elected officials that are

2077
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 12: willing to stand up every single day and say I

2078
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:42,960
Speaker 12: support the police, and I want the police to just

2079
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 12: go do their jobs and not holding back and not

2080
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 12: create a situation where they're nervous to want to go

2081
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,639
Speaker 12: out and do their jobs the way that they were trained.

2082
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,719
Speaker 12: The fact that we are waiting this long to start

2083
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 12: going after people who are breaking the law, even minor infractions,

2084
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 12: is absolutely mind boggling to me. I mean, people have

2085
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 12: been complaining about this for a very very long time,

2086
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 12: and then to just here this week saying, Okay, we're

2087
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 12: going to start going after you, and we're going to

2088
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 12: come talk to you, we're going to approach you if

2089
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 12: you are doing anything illegal. I mean, the fact that

2090
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 12: elected officials weren't supporting and encouraging the police to do

2091
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 12: this so long ago, I mean, it's no wonder we're

2092
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 12: in the situation that we are in. You've got to

2093
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 12: be able to support the police, and you've got to

2094
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 12: encourage in and allow the police to do their jobs

2095
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 12: and not let politics get in.

2096
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 2: The way of that.

2097
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 4: Amen to that. And then if they are left to

2098
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 4: do their job, to run the job independently, make the

2099
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 4: choices on their own, free of political pressure, and they

2100
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 4: do a poor job, you have a legitimate justification. Hey,

2101
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 4: we let her run the show. She failed at that.

2102
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 4: We're going to find somebody that does a better job.

2103
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 4: That would be more logical and reasonable. But right now

2104
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 4: her hands are tied. And again, if they fire her,

2105
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 4: they're firing her because she bent to their will. That'd

2106
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 4: be my argument. Anyway, what do you action the Jeff

2107
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 4: Ruby Entertainment Center closing down. I know the spin in

2108
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 4: local media was it was some sort of rent dispute,

2109
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 4: but it actually was not. The CEO from Ruby's said

2110
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 4: out loud that knows because of security the rental company

2111
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 4: the property owner wasn't providing adequate security. I think that's

2112
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 4: suggesting we need better security downtown. There are employees working

2113
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 4: here and they have concerns walking in and out of

2114
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 4: the building, or that maybe criminals and evil types might

2115
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 4: walk into the building, So the controversy centers around safety,

2116
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 4: and they're not there anymore. After that, Purvoal was on

2117
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,760
Speaker 4: the TV last night arguing with Corey Bowman, claiming Heaps

2118
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 4: brought all kinds of businesses in a downsound. But I

2119
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 4: don't remember any of that, Liz keating, are we losing

2120
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 4: more than we're gaining? Where are we in terms of

2121
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 4: drawing people into downtown Cincinnati?

2122
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 12: You know, I think we have a problem across the board.

2123
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:57,800
Speaker 12: We have seen restaurant shutdown and those restaurant owners consistently

2124
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 12: say that it's because crime, and say has it been

2125
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:04,600
Speaker 12: a problem and impacting their businesses? Now, we know we

2126
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 12: are in a tough economy. We know that we already

2127
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 12: have a lot of forces going against us. But when

2128
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 12: you have this kind of economy, you know crime spikes,

2129
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 12: you know mental health issues rise, and you know you

2130
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 12: have safety issues. These are things that could have been

2131
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 12: prevented and worked on two years ago, but it wasn't.

2132
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 12: And now we're consistently hearing You're hearing restaurants in the banks,

2133
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:27,560
Speaker 12: You're hearing restaurants in Central Business District, You're hearing restaurants

2134
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 12: do it in OTR Consistently complained about that and need

2135
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 12: for more police officers, more police officers walking the beat,

2136
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Speaker 12: more security, more private detail to be able to manage

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Speaker 12: this not just from a security standpoint and a safety standpoint,

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Speaker 12: but a perception of safety so that people feel safe.

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Speaker 12: And if people don't feel safe, they are not going

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Speaker 12: to come support our businesses, and those businesses are going

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Speaker 12: to hurt. And if we are a city that does

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Speaker 12: not support these small businesses that are the lifeblood of

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Speaker 12: our city and our community, we have a huge, huge

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Speaker 12: problem down the line. We got to be able to

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Speaker 12: do better, and we need city officials, particularly city council

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Speaker 12: step up and actually care about these businesses and make

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Speaker 12: sure they're getting the support they need from a safety standpoint.

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Speaker 4: Well, Pauls, bring Liz Keating back. Obviously we know where

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Speaker 4: she is on crime in the downtown sin Sinnator. We're

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Speaker 4: going to get some other ideas she has for as

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Speaker 4: she wins the council race. Early voting is open, the

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Speaker 4: Board of Elections is open. Go cast your vote today.

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Speaker 4: Make sure Liz Keating is among the four or five

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Speaker 4: you actually vote for. Going back to Christopher Smithman's point,

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Speaker 4: don't vote for all nine. You don't need to do that.

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Speaker 4: Just vote for the ones you want. It's vote Liz

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Speaker 4: Keating K E A T I G. Vote Liz Keating

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Speaker 4: dot com. We'll bring her back right.

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Speaker 2: From the station.

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Speaker 4: Eight eighteen fifty five ker CED Talk station. So there's

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Speaker 4: a very important election in the city of Cincinnati coming

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Speaker 4: up in November, and Liz Keating's on the battle for

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Speaker 4: sincey City Council joining the program this, we wan't need

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Speaker 4: to talk about that. So as we move away from crime,

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Speaker 4: I had one of the other huge issues for the

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Speaker 4: residents of the city, and we saw this unfold and

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Speaker 4: Bond Hill and Hyde Park they collectively painted this connected

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Speaker 4: communities zoning rule over all of the neighborhoods without consulting

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Speaker 4: with local communities about whether they wanted it or not,

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Speaker 4: and then start making exceptions for well connected developers and

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Speaker 4: in other areas without consulting those local communities like the

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Speaker 4: residents of Hyde Park. We all know how that worked

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Speaker 4: out for the mayor and the city council. What is

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Speaker 4: the Liz Keating approach to let's say, affordable housing. I

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Speaker 4: know Parvoll said even again last night he wants forty

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Speaker 4: thousand new affordable called affordable homes. Maybe you can define

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Speaker 4: that for me, because I don't know what that means

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Speaker 4: in the next ten years, but that's four thousand a years.

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Speaker 4: They haven't even come close to that goal. Liz, keeping

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Speaker 4: your reaction to property.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the number one reason why they haven't

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Speaker 12: come close to that goal is because they're not actually

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Speaker 12: having productive debate there. I mean, if you if you

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Speaker 12: look at these situations, they're going all or nothing. So

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Speaker 12: you've got council members who are voting yes, just get

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Speaker 12: down there and give speeches as to why they're voting yes.

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Speaker 12: And then you've got council members they're voting no, and

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Speaker 12: they're giving speeches as to why they're voting no. So

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Speaker 12: they go all or nothing. A lot of these communities

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Speaker 12: are saying, yeah, we do want housing, we do want investment,

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Speaker 12: we do want something. Can you just work with us

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Speaker 12: into what fits within the design of our community. And

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Speaker 12: if it's all or nothing, everyone loses. You end up

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Speaker 12: with nothing, as you're seeing it in High Park. Whereas

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Speaker 12: a lot of the High Park neighborhood said, you know,

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Speaker 12: our squares old, it's been a while since we've gotten

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Speaker 12: some sort of investment. We'd be happy to have a

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Speaker 12: little bit of a facelift. Can you work within our

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Speaker 12: current voting?

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Speaker 2: Can you?

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Speaker 12: Can you work within the current design?

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Speaker 2: Can you?

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Speaker 12: Can you respect the architectural history of our square? And

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Speaker 12: if you had done that, you would actually be moving

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Speaker 12: forward on a project right now that one fits with

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Speaker 12: a neighbor that makes the neighborhood happy, and you'd actually

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Speaker 12: have more units than you have now. Guess how many

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Speaker 12: we have now because of the absolute failure of City

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Speaker 12: Council zero. And it's insane. If you look at the

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Speaker 12: way the city approaches development in our urban core, it

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Speaker 12: is very proactive, it's strategic, it's intentional, and it respects

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Speaker 12: the historic architecture of our downtown. And I've said this before.

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Speaker 12: You wouldn't build a big box apartment building on the

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Speaker 12: empty parking lot next to music Hall.

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Speaker 3: You just want it.

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Speaker 12: Nobody would even fathom doing that. But when you go

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Speaker 12: to the neighborhoods that things like that are like, oh, well,

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Speaker 12: you're a nimbi if you don't want this, and it's

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Speaker 12: absolutely absurd, Like you rarely see opposition of housing being

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Speaker 12: built in urban core because of how careful and how

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Speaker 12: intentional they are on it, and if we can take

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Speaker 12: that same proactive approach in our neighborhoods, work with our

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Speaker 12: neighborhoods of what do you want and how do we

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Speaker 12: make this fit? You can actually be much more proactive

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Speaker 12: and figure out how to incentivize that kind of investment,

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Speaker 12: and particularly for disinvested neighborhoods, they can get that added investment,

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Speaker 12: more housing units the way that fits within the neighborhood,

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Speaker 12: and you'd be much further along. If you continue this

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Speaker 12: all or nothing approach and absolutely fail and having a

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Speaker 12: productive debate, you get where you are now, which is zero.

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Speaker 4: Well, it seems to me this kind of communities and

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Speaker 4: it's all about affordable housing. I don't know what that

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Speaker 4: word means. I know that if somebody built an apartment

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Speaker 4: complex in Hyde Park, and maybe it was, you know,

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Speaker 4: one hundred units and each one only had let's say

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Speaker 4: five hundred square feet, you're going to get a hell

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Speaker 4: of a lot more rent in that unit than you are.

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Speaker 4: And pick one of the other fifty two neighborhoods where

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Speaker 4: maybe the crime is a lot higher, maybe the amenities

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Speaker 4: aren't is, maybe there's not as much shopping or grocery

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Speaker 4: store access. They're not going to command as much rent

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Speaker 4: just by virtue of location. You can't control that unless

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Speaker 4: you put in some kind of rent control, can you, Liz,

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 12: It's more the way I look at it is is

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Speaker 12: figuring out how we can get more two, three, four

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Speaker 12: families built, because if you look on public transit lines,

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Speaker 12: you can build within neighborhoods, these smaller what you know

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Speaker 12: professionals call the missing middle housing. You're building up those,

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Speaker 12: and then more people can can actually build those. You

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Speaker 12: have more mom and pops that can build a two family.

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Speaker 12: It's a pathway to home ownership because somebody can buy

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Speaker 12: a two family and rent out the other side, and

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Speaker 12: I'll set their mortgage, which you know brings the cost down.

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Speaker 12: But then you're buying real estate, which we all know

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Speaker 12: builds that generational wealth. But then more people can partake

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Speaker 12: in that because there aren't very many people who can

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Speaker 12: afford to big, big apartment buildings like you're seeing in

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Speaker 12: the urban core. And so if you can take that approach,

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Speaker 12: and I think hyge Park is a perfect example. If

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Speaker 12: you look at all these cross streets around Hyghe Park Square,

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Speaker 12: like z'ms Seen and Barry in Michigan and Eriie and observatory.

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Speaker 12: You do have a lot of two three four families.

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Speaker 12: I grew up on a street two doors down with

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Speaker 12: a four family because I lived right off of a

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Speaker 12: major road on Linwood Road. And it gives more people

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Speaker 12: the opportunity easy. You allow more people to be able

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Speaker 12: to build, and it offsets the cost to be able

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Speaker 12: to create that pathway to home ownership and generational wealth.

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Speaker 12: And I think that's the best approach because those smaller

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Speaker 12: missing middle housing, the two three four family units that

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Speaker 12: fits into neighborhoods, it works. And if you're doing it

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Speaker 12: on public transit lines, if you're doing in these neighborhood

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Speaker 12: business districts, if you're doing it in near schools and

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Speaker 12: health centers and daycares, you know it fits so perfectly

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Speaker 12: and more people get to partake in it.

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Speaker 4: And I presume that this entire conversation has to be

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Speaker 4: predicated on one of those smaller builders maybe or any

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Speaker 4: any builder actually realizing a profit by building that type

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Speaker 4: of unit as opposed to going for the full freight

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Speaker 4: really big apartments or really expensive housing.

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Speaker 12: There is think about the number of people that could

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Speaker 12: move forward on doing that versus one massive project that

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Speaker 12: takes years and years to get all the approvals, to

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Speaker 12: get all the financing and move forward. And I think

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Speaker 12: the problem with this council is that the you know,

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Speaker 12: they keep this all or nothing approach and then they

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Speaker 12: panic because they haven't move forward on any numbers, and

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Speaker 12: so they just want one big project so they can

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Speaker 12: you know, tally up and say we got this many

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Speaker 12: versus trying to figure out how to be much more

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Speaker 12: proactive and strategic and working with the community to make

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Speaker 12: it fit. There is a way to do this. We

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Speaker 12: have seen other cities do this, and we just need

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Speaker 12: council members who are willing to take the time and

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Speaker 12: actually have that productive debate to figure it out.

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Speaker 4: Early voting is open. I recommend my listeners check out

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Speaker 4: their website vote Lizkeating dot com. In spite of the

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Speaker 4: fact that we're running out of time in terms of

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Speaker 4: now in the election just a few weeks away, it's

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Speaker 4: not too late for folks to help out with your campaign,

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Speaker 4: get involved and maybe even donate or are we past that?

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Speaker 4: Liz Keating.

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Speaker 12: A absolutely not pass that all of the above, So

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Speaker 12: we definitely need help and we will take any and

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Speaker 12: all help. Obviously, donations are extremely helpful, particularly at these

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Speaker 12: last few weeks, to help with ads and the mailers.

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Speaker 12: We need people at the polling locations on election day

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Speaker 12: talking to your neighbors, your friends as they come in

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Speaker 12: to vote, and and you know, getting yard signs up

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Speaker 12: and just making sure people are aware because you know,

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Speaker 12: voter turnout is extremely low on these off year elections,

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Speaker 12: and that's why we end up with what we have

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Speaker 12: right now. And if you want to have a voice,

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Speaker 12: if you want to have productive debate, if you want

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Speaker 12: somebody who's going to fight crime and fight the causes

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Speaker 12: of crime. If you want somebody who is going to

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Speaker 12: make sure those potholes are filled and the roads are

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Speaker 12: paved and we actually plow snow when it's when it

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Speaker 12: snows out. We need to have you show up. We

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Speaker 12: need to have you talking about it and make sure

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Speaker 12: you got your networks to show up to vote too.

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Speaker 4: Have those sound like great ideas that you need to vote,

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Speaker 4: Liz Keating, I recommend people do that again.

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Speaker 12: Vote listen a great idea. Sorry I'm interrupting you here.

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Speaker 12: That is not even a great idea, that is just

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Speaker 12: common sense foundation of local government. This shouldn't be that hard.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad I said it, Cincinnati. I'm glad I said

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Speaker 4: that change down.

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Speaker 3: There, right.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad I said that because you put the exclamation

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Speaker 4: point on it. Amen, Liz Keaty, good luck. If we

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Speaker 4: don't talk between now and then, and I hope we do.

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Speaker 4: I wish you all the best, and I really just

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Speaker 4: for the benefit of the city that I love so much,

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Speaker 4: we need a new administration who can focus on this

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Speaker 4: logical and reasonable strategy. Thanks Liz Keating, keep up the

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Speaker 4: great work and I'll wish you all the best as

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Speaker 4: we fast approach election day coming up.

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Speaker 9: Many things to be thankful for it to be otherwise, brother,

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Speaker 9: you know that is I know it's been a very

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Speaker 9: good day.

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Speaker 4: That's why I love the post you put up on

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Speaker 4: Facebook because I always have this inspirational, positive message. You know,

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Speaker 4: there's always something positive you can focus on, and that's

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Speaker 4: why I like you so much. You're good man. Jay

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Speaker 4: rat left and what happened to Southwest? Real quick? Here

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Speaker 4: carve all time. Last time you were on you were

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Speaker 4: talking I think was Spirit Airlines. Who's getting rid of

2350
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 4: reclining seats or you had to pay extra for them?

2351
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:13,200
Speaker 9: Well, actually that's West Jets. West cat and yeah, West

2352
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 9: Jet in Canada, they're they're kind of the Southwest Airlines,

2353
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:20,160
Speaker 9: if you will, of Canada to a smaller version. They're

2354
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:22,960
Speaker 9: premium seats are seats that we can pay extra for

2355
02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 9: if we want, if you want to read like that

2356
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:28,839
Speaker 9: premium service of reclining. Yes, exactly.

2357
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:32,920
Speaker 4: But Southwest just has redesigned their interiors of all some

2358
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 4: of their airplanes anyway, and they're now switching to brand

2359
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:39,960
Speaker 4: new Reccaro R two seats featuring multi adjustable headrest, cutchen,

2360
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 4: integrated tablet and phone holder in the rear, and in

2361
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 4: seed power with integrated USBA and seaports. Sounds like they're

2362
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:49,320
Speaker 4: going the opposite direction. Didn't they pay attention to making

2363
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:51,560
Speaker 4: us more miserable in order to make more money?

2364
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 9: Jay, Well, you know, but part of this is also

2365
02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:56,400
Speaker 9: so they can put in their premium seats, which are

2366
02:02:56,560 --> 02:03:00,160
Speaker 9: things that they are just now doing, because they've got

2367
02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:02,200
Speaker 9: the assigned seats that are coming up, and they've got

2368
02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 9: the premium seats where you can pay to sit in

2369
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 9: a seat that's got a little bit more leg room.

2370
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 9: Because Southwest really learned a couple of years ago that

2371
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 9: they really needed to start paying attention to the fact

2372
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 9: that there's a segment of the traveling pump population that's

2373
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:19,560
Speaker 9: willing to pay above and beyond what they would normally

2374
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:23,520
Speaker 9: pay for an airfare for a more comfortable seat with

2375
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:26,200
Speaker 9: more LEGRAM. And I love the fact they're going to

2376
02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:28,880
Speaker 9: assigned seating. That means no more of these wheelchairs out

2377
02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 9: the door type of thing where people are just trying

2378
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 9: to get on early. But the idea that you're going

2379
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 9: to have the ability to have a premium seat, which

2380
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:38,480
Speaker 9: is a little bit larger seat, a little bit more legram,

2381
02:03:38,920 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 9: well I don't think the seat's larger, but you've got

2382
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:43,680
Speaker 9: more legroom, more pitched between rows is going to be

2383
02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:47,480
Speaker 9: a great thing. Because Delta and United reported earnings recently

2384
02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:52,560
Speaker 9: and they were incredibly strong, and they credited the premium

2385
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:56,760
Speaker 9: seats that they've been selling and how popular they have been,

2386
02:03:57,360 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 9: and how they continue to make that one of their

2387
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:03,760
Speaker 9: uh primary you know, marketing points. And you know other

2388
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 9: airlines are doing the same thing. They're recognizing that. Look, yeah,

2389
02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 9: cramming as many seats onto an aircraft as you can

2390
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 9: is one thing. It's like that double decker aircraft, the

2391
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 9: airbus A three eighty. If it's all coach configuration, no

2392
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:19,440
Speaker 9: business class, no first class, no premium seats. You can

2393
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:23,600
Speaker 9: put eight hundred people on that airplane. Oh lord, I

2394
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 9: think that's tempting fate. But that's another story.

2395
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 4: But that's the first reaction I had came from.

2396
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 5: You got that right.

2397
02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 9: So, but you know, when when airlines start putting in

2398
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:37,720
Speaker 9: the first class seats, the business class, and then these

2399
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:40,720
Speaker 9: premium seats, which are the you know, the extra comfortable

2400
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:44,400
Speaker 9: coach seats. Uh, some airlines found out that the coach,

2401
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:47,560
Speaker 9: the premium coach seats were more popular than some of

2402
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 9: their first class seats and some of their business class.

2403
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 9: So we've actually seen airlines over the last couple of

2404
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 9: years removing some of the business class first class seats

2405
02:04:57,400 --> 02:04:59,080
Speaker 9: so they can make more room to put more of

2406
02:04:59,160 --> 02:05:02,240
Speaker 9: these premium sea seats in because even though they obviously

2407
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:04,760
Speaker 9: sell them at a reduced price versus what they took out,

2408
02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:07,840
Speaker 9: they can put in more of those, and they sell

2409
02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 9: those out much more frequently than they do the seats

2410
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:13,600
Speaker 9: that many times are just an upgrade for people want

2411
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 9: with their frequent flyer miles, where really, you know, they're

2412
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 9: not getting a huge, uh you know, benefit from a

2413
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:24,600
Speaker 9: revenue standpoint. So yeah, it's fascinating to see this shift

2414
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:27,640
Speaker 9: to premium seats. It doesn't surprise me because as tough

2415
02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:30,280
Speaker 9: as it is to endure travel these days, to pay

2416
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:32,600
Speaker 9: a couple extra dollars to sit in those premium seats

2417
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:34,080
Speaker 9: is certainly the way to do.

2418
02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 4: It well and almost a requirement considering society's collective girth

2419
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:41,720
Speaker 4: is increasing even as we speak. Got to have room

2420
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:43,840
Speaker 4: to put the person, and I would be willing to

2421
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:47,240
Speaker 4: pay extra for some space if I had a girth issue.

2422
02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:49,680
Speaker 4: Pause from it will bring Jay Rylive back plenty to

2423
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:53,880
Speaker 4: talk about with his massivenue wreckon river near Dell High

2424
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:58,640
Speaker 4: Chuck Ingram on fifty five KOC the talk station. We've

2425
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 4: never been in a cockpit before? A thirty eight fifty

2426
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:06,040
Speaker 4: on cair C DE talk station, returning with iHeartMedia Aviation

2427
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:09,400
Speaker 4: expert Jay Ratliffe. You were one other thing right and

2428
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Speaker 4: again not on your list?

2429
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:12,360
Speaker 2: But how.

2430
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 9: Why reference what I send you that's mine?

2431
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:17,800
Speaker 4: No, we'll get to all that. I just like to

2432
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 4: build a fit all the time your show, brother, you lead.

2433
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to have to go back and lead

2434
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 4: myself to my own devices. I have you as a

2435
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:29,720
Speaker 4: vehicle to keep the conversation going, Jay, you know that's fine.

2436
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:33,360
Speaker 4: Pete Heggs's flight had to divert. They crack. A windshield

2437
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 4: got cracked. Oh, how does the windshield get cracked? Or

2438
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:39,760
Speaker 4: is this a fairly common phenomenon. I'd never read about

2439
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:40,120
Speaker 4: that before.

2440
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Speaker 9: Well, you know, when when you're talking about a cockpit windshield,

2441
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 9: you're talking about several different layers of protection. When you

2442
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:53,000
Speaker 9: look at it, because it's multi layered, it's obviously very

2443
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:55,800
Speaker 9: high strength, and there's a lot of times that this

2444
02:06:56,680 --> 02:07:01,800
Speaker 9: this acrylic glass, if you will, can't and not shatter.

2445
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 9: It's not like it blows out, but it cracks, and

2446
02:07:05,320 --> 02:07:07,560
Speaker 9: when you're in the cockpit when that happens, it sounds

2447
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 9: like a gun went off. But because of the fact

2448
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 9: it's multi layered, a lot of times you've just got

2449
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:15,040
Speaker 9: one layer of those I think three that you have

2450
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 9: there that has been impacted. So what happens is the

2451
02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 9: plane normally will make an unscheduled landing. It's not necessarily

2452
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:29,400
Speaker 9: considered an emergency landing. But the land because obviously you're

2453
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:32,600
Speaker 9: worried about the rest of the windshield components, which even

2454
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 9: though they're in separately, contains separately it happens frequently. The

2455
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:41,320
Speaker 9: biggest issue is if they're landing, it could impair the

2456
02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:45,240
Speaker 9: pilot's ability to see the runway to an extent. But no,

2457
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:48,520
Speaker 9: I mean it's they happen. And when you look at

2458
02:07:48,640 --> 02:07:50,840
Speaker 9: the number of flights that we have in the course

2459
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 9: of a day, a week, a month, a year, I'm

2460
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:56,160
Speaker 9: surprised we don't have more occurrences of that taking place.

2461
02:07:56,240 --> 02:07:58,880
Speaker 9: But the pictures when you do a Google image of

2462
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 9: the cockpit windshields when they do this, yeah, it's something

2463
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:05,200
Speaker 9: to look at for sure.

2464
02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:08,840
Speaker 4: Fair enough in aviation terms, it's.

2465
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 9: Almost a non event, other than the fact that if

2466
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,760
Speaker 9: you're drinking coffee when it starts, you might spill your coffee,

2467
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:16,640
Speaker 9: because you get it's quite a start because you've got

2468
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:19,840
Speaker 9: that cockpit the flight deck that's contained, so anything in

2469
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:24,000
Speaker 9: there it echoes, but at a much louder sound. And

2470
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 9: believe me, the flight crew was made aware of it

2471
02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 9: immediately when it happened.

2472
02:08:27,400 --> 02:08:29,920
Speaker 4: I imagine. So so in addition to cleaning up the coffee,

2473
02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:31,440
Speaker 4: you probably had to hit the restroom and do a

2474
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:34,800
Speaker 4: shorts change. At least I would anyway. But oh, to Boeing,

2475
02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:37,920
Speaker 4: it looks like they're on the move in terms of deliveries.

2476
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:41,600
Speaker 4: They're increasing the deliveries behind air Bus, though, but are

2477
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:43,720
Speaker 4: they delivering planes that are safe?

2478
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:48,720
Speaker 9: Jay, We hope so that is the plan, and normally

2479
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:51,480
Speaker 9: Boeing an Airbus it's fifty to fifty, but obviously with

2480
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:53,600
Speaker 9: the production delays that we've been talking about with Boeing,

2481
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 9: that's not been the case for the last several years.

2482
02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:59,720
Speaker 9: But Boeing is starting to close the gap. I was

2483
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:02,560
Speaker 9: looking at the numbers for Airbus. Airbus has delivered five

2484
02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 9: hundred and sixty eight aircraft to date and Boeing four

2485
02:09:06,760 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 9: hundred and forty. Now that's a little bit closer than

2486
02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:12,160
Speaker 9: what it's been of late. But what's really interesting, Brian,

2487
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 9: and we've talked about this from time to time, is

2488
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 9: the backlog of airplanes. Now, keep in mind, Airbus is

2489
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:21,560
Speaker 9: hoping to deliver about nine hundred airplanes this year. They

2490
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:25,400
Speaker 9: have a backlog at Airbus of eight thousand, seven hundred

2491
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:29,280
Speaker 9: and sixteen jets that they still have to build. Airbus

2492
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 9: has got the eighty seven hundred. Boeing's backlog is sixty

2493
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:36,720
Speaker 9: five hundred and thirty one jets Between them, that's fifteen

2494
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:40,720
Speaker 9: thousand planes that have been ordered that they have yet

2495
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:44,080
Speaker 9: to be built and delivered. And that's why if you

2496
02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:46,720
Speaker 9: order a jet today, yeah, it's going to be delivered

2497
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:50,000
Speaker 9: sometime during the next presidential administration, because it's going to

2498
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:52,920
Speaker 9: take a long time. When you're cranking out a thousand

2499
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:56,200
Speaker 9: airplanes a year and you you've got a backlog of

2500
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:59,160
Speaker 9: eighty seven hundred, Yeah, it's going to take some time.

2501
02:09:59,240 --> 02:10:01,240
Speaker 9: And that's why a lot of times we talked about

2502
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 9: why do one airline buy another airline because the fact

2503
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:08,760
Speaker 9: that if you want to increase the size of your fleet, yeah,

2504
02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 9: you can get in line with everybody else, or you

2505
02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 9: can go buy a Spirit or somebody else and immediately

2506
02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:18,240
Speaker 9: increase your fleet by a couple hundred aircraft of the

2507
02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:20,800
Speaker 9: type that that you want to use. So that's one

2508
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:23,280
Speaker 9: of the reasons a lot of times you'll see those acquisitions.

2509
02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:25,720
Speaker 9: It's not so much market based, do you like where

2510
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:27,680
Speaker 9: they fly the schedule type of thing. It's the fact

2511
02:10:27,680 --> 02:10:30,800
Speaker 9: that you want the equipment that that air airline saw

2512
02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 9: or flies. But yeah, Boeing's making up some distance there

2513
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:37,560
Speaker 9: and yeah, we'll see if they can continue to close

2514
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:37,960
Speaker 9: that gap.

2515
02:10:38,120 --> 02:10:40,640
Speaker 4: All right, Well, considering the the data of you know,

2516
02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:44,040
Speaker 4: signing the contract to purchase and the data delivery decade.

2517
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,720
Speaker 4: What of all the technological advances that might occur over

2518
02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:49,720
Speaker 4: that period of time, wouldn't you want the most state

2519
02:10:49,760 --> 02:10:53,360
Speaker 4: of the art, safest, quietest, most efficient fuel wise aircraft?

2520
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 4: And I got to imagine that type of research and

2521
02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:57,120
Speaker 4: development is going on all the time. We've got a

2522
02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 4: lot quieter planes out in the world than we used to. So,

2523
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:02,200
Speaker 4: oh yeah, are you getting today? Like if I order

2524
02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:04,480
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, is that the kind of technology

2525
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:07,280
Speaker 4: I'm getting in twenty thirty five when the thing shows up?

2526
02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:10,080
Speaker 4: Or do you get the benefit of an improvements you do?

2527
02:11:10,240 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 9: Because what happens the avionics package is normally one of

2528
02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:14,080
Speaker 9: the last things that they're going to be putting in,

2529
02:11:14,200 --> 02:11:15,640
Speaker 9: so it's going to be the state of the art

2530
02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:17,760
Speaker 9: of what you have. A lot like the power plant

2531
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:19,800
Speaker 9: or the engines that you put on an aircraft or

2532
02:11:20,240 --> 02:11:22,480
Speaker 9: are you know, towards the end of the aircraft be

2533
02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:26,280
Speaker 9: being produced and installed. So that's one of the things

2534
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:28,040
Speaker 9: that you look at there. So yeah, you would be

2535
02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:30,760
Speaker 9: getting the benefit of that. That would be almost insult

2536
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 9: to injury if you had to worry, If you had

2537
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:36,400
Speaker 9: to worry about getting an airplane. Yeah that had a

2538
02:11:36,520 --> 02:11:39,480
Speaker 9: package of you know, ten years old on some of

2539
02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:42,680
Speaker 9: its components. Yeah, that's not what we're after, and fortunately

2540
02:11:42,760 --> 02:11:45,000
Speaker 9: that's not the case. But you know, these airplanes, they

2541
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 9: continue to get more quiet, they continue to get more

2542
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:52,640
Speaker 9: fuel efficient, and they allow the airlines to be more profitable.

2543
02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:54,560
Speaker 9: And you know, one of the things that blows my

2544
02:11:54,720 --> 02:11:58,360
Speaker 9: mind to this day is continuing to see airlines like

2545
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:03,680
Speaker 9: Delta in United that report quarterly profits of more than

2546
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:07,240
Speaker 9: a billion dollars. Delta just last week announced their third

2547
02:12:07,320 --> 02:12:11,920
Speaker 9: quarter profit was one point four billion dollars in the

2548
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:16,040
Speaker 9: third United was a much less impressive nine hundred million,

2549
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:18,680
Speaker 9: I think or so in the third quarter. But Brian,

2550
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:21,440
Speaker 9: what just blows my mind is, I remember all the

2551
02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:24,960
Speaker 9: decades when airlines were losing money like crazy. You couldn't

2552
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:27,720
Speaker 9: get Warren Buffett to buy an airline stock if you

2553
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:30,680
Speaker 9: dared him. But what happened was airlines have gotten to

2554
02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:33,920
Speaker 9: the point now where they're using the credit cards and

2555
02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:36,840
Speaker 9: the other things to help them make this money. From

2556
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 9: a revenue standpoint, last year, the big four airlines made

2557
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:43,640
Speaker 9: eight billion dollars in profit collectively, those four But when

2558
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:46,400
Speaker 9: you look at the boring numbers. What we talk about

2559
02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:49,440
Speaker 9: the available seat miles per carrier and the revenue generated

2560
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:53,720
Speaker 9: per available seat mile. They're actually losing money on the

2561
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:59,080
Speaker 9: transportation side of the equation. Think about that. If all

2562
02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:04,520
Speaker 9: they did was transportation and that was the sole vein

2563
02:13:04,600 --> 02:13:06,480
Speaker 9: of their revenue stream, they would be losing money in

2564
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:08,839
Speaker 9: a lot of it. But because they've got the ancillary

2565
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:12,440
Speaker 9: fairs and those credit cards, you're now seeing this revenue

2566
02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:16,840
Speaker 9: being generated at just an unbelievable pace. And that's why.

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02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:19,680
Speaker 9: You know, everybody's got a credit card that's tied to

2568
02:13:19,760 --> 02:13:21,360
Speaker 9: miles and things of this nature. Whether or not we

2569
02:13:21,480 --> 02:13:24,080
Speaker 9: use them or not another thing. But that's where they're

2570
02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:28,480
Speaker 9: making this money from other resources in additional revenue streams,

2571
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:32,680
Speaker 9: and it's really become a multifaceted business where you've got

2572
02:13:32,760 --> 02:13:35,800
Speaker 9: these multiple revenue streams that are contributing to these un

2573
02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:38,160
Speaker 9: I mean, the idea that an airline could make a

2574
02:13:38,240 --> 02:13:41,520
Speaker 9: billion dollars in profit in a year was unthinkable a

2575
02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:43,840
Speaker 9: number of years ago. Now you've got United doing it

2576
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:47,839
Speaker 9: almost every quarter, as is Delta, and it just it's mind.

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02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:50,840
Speaker 4: Boggling mind modeling. Most notably that it isn't based upon

2578
02:13:50,920 --> 02:13:53,080
Speaker 4: the core function of their business, which is air trap.

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02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:56,000
Speaker 9: Why do that, Well, you know, any business has multiple

2580
02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:59,280
Speaker 9: revenue streams they need to. But when you look at

2581
02:13:59,320 --> 02:14:01,720
Speaker 9: the fact that, hey, we're in business to transport people

2582
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 9: and just because of the competition, thank God for the

2583
02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:07,280
Speaker 9: low cost carriers. That's why anytime we get a low

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02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:09,840
Speaker 9: cost carrier in Cincinnati, and we've had some recent news

2585
02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:13,760
Speaker 9: with Frontier and Allegiance which has really been exciting at Cincinnati.

2586
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:17,960
Speaker 9: I love it because the stronger these low cost carriers are,

2587
02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:21,280
Speaker 9: the more in check they keep these larger legacy carriers.

2588
02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:24,640
Speaker 9: And regardless of which city I'm talking to across the country,

2589
02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:27,080
Speaker 9: when they say, hey, Jay, we just landed a Breeze

2590
02:14:27,200 --> 02:14:30,480
Speaker 9: or a Legion or a Frontier, I'm thinking, great, make

2591
02:14:30,520 --> 02:14:33,120
Speaker 9: sure you support them because they're the reason that we

2592
02:14:33,200 --> 02:14:36,240
Speaker 9: have these low fares. If these airlines like a Spirit

2593
02:14:36,320 --> 02:14:39,520
Speaker 9: and others start to disappear from the landscape, we're toast

2594
02:14:39,640 --> 02:14:43,680
Speaker 9: because these large legacy carriers will start to raise their fares.

2595
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:48,080
Speaker 4: As we've seen before, Yeah, the old c and.

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02:14:48,160 --> 02:14:50,320
Speaker 9: That's what Well, we had no competition at the time,

2597
02:14:50,440 --> 02:14:53,280
Speaker 9: no low cost carriers, so Frontier kind of broke that model.

2598
02:14:53,280 --> 02:14:55,120
Speaker 9: A number of years ago. Thank God for that, bringing

2599
02:14:55,160 --> 02:14:57,400
Speaker 9: that one flight from Dayton that they had for seven

2600
02:14:57,480 --> 02:15:00,440
Speaker 9: years down to Cincinnati to Denver and the next thing

2601
02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:02,400
Speaker 9: you know, they're going crazy. Here comes Allegiant, here comes

2602
02:15:02,480 --> 02:15:05,720
Speaker 9: everybody else. Right, So it's because of that, So please

2603
02:15:05,800 --> 02:15:08,880
Speaker 9: continue to support those low cost carriers. And at the

2604
02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:11,960
Speaker 9: website at the Cincinnat Airport CBG Airport, you can see

2605
02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:13,960
Speaker 9: where some of these new low cost carriers are bringing

2606
02:15:14,040 --> 02:15:17,000
Speaker 9: him back some of their seasonal service, introducing new service,

2607
02:15:17,560 --> 02:15:20,120
Speaker 9: and it's really some exciting things to see and I'm

2608
02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:22,880
Speaker 9: thrilled that the community is supporting them as we are.

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02:15:23,440 --> 02:15:25,360
Speaker 4: Jay Ratlif Pause, We're bringing back for a real quick hit.

2610
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:27,840
Speaker 4: We'll end on a comical note. And even though it

2611
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:30,560
Speaker 4: involves a sad and pathetic passenger and to get a

2612
02:15:30,600 --> 02:15:33,680
Speaker 4: hub delay, don't go away right backer. See Deep Talk

2613
02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:39,280
Speaker 4: Station eight if you want, if you have Karcite Talk

2614
02:15:39,320 --> 02:15:42,760
Speaker 4: station closing another Thursday with one more segment with iHeartMedia

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02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:47,440
Speaker 4: aviation expert Jay Rattleff from the Don't Be That Guy file.

2616
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:50,080
Speaker 4: We got another passenger attacking crew members. What's this one

2617
02:15:50,120 --> 02:15:50,760
Speaker 4: all about? Jay?

2618
02:15:51,320 --> 02:15:54,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is a don't be that woman story because

2619
02:15:54,680 --> 02:15:57,280
Speaker 9: this was a sixty sixty one year old passenger that

2620
02:15:57,440 --> 02:15:59,280
Speaker 9: was a board of a Last airline's flight. It was

2621
02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:02,080
Speaker 9: scheduled to fly from Portland to Dallas. But during the

2622
02:16:02,120 --> 02:16:06,000
Speaker 9: course of the flight, this woman started acting irrationally and

2623
02:16:06,160 --> 02:16:08,200
Speaker 9: flight attendants were trying to come to her aid, well,

2624
02:16:08,240 --> 02:16:11,440
Speaker 9: that's when she struck them, and that's all it took

2625
02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:14,600
Speaker 9: that she was immediately restrained. Flight was diverted and you

2626
02:16:14,680 --> 02:16:16,840
Speaker 9: know it's bad when you have to divert to Boise Idoh,

2627
02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:20,320
Speaker 9: but that's where they landed to get her off, and

2628
02:16:20,720 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 9: obviously the airline quickly came out saying, you know, charges

2629
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:27,480
Speaker 9: could be filed obviously, you know, assaulting a flight attendant,

2630
02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:30,080
Speaker 9: and also that she'll never be flying the Last Airlines

2631
02:16:30,080 --> 02:16:33,000
Speaker 9: ever again, which is good. But then back to my

2632
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:36,720
Speaker 9: overused comment that she can still fly any other airline

2633
02:16:36,720 --> 02:16:39,840
Speaker 9: in the country she wants to after assaulting a crew member,

2634
02:16:39,879 --> 02:16:43,280
Speaker 9: which should not be allowed, but continues to be so.

2635
02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:46,680
Speaker 9: So one of these Brian, it's going to take something

2636
02:16:46,760 --> 02:16:48,800
Speaker 9: serious and that's when the airlines are going to decide

2637
02:16:48,840 --> 02:16:50,800
Speaker 9: that that's when they need to do it, at which

2638
02:16:50,879 --> 02:16:53,120
Speaker 9: point we'll be screaming, why did it take this long

2639
02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:55,800
Speaker 9: for us? To make that kind of a decision.

2640
02:16:55,959 --> 02:16:59,440
Speaker 4: It's like our lithium battery discussions from time to time. Yeah,

2641
02:16:59,440 --> 02:17:02,279
Speaker 4: wait till that happens on an eight hundred passenger airplane

2642
02:17:02,360 --> 02:17:03,039
Speaker 4: Jay ratlift.

2643
02:17:03,400 --> 02:17:05,959
Speaker 9: Let's hope, not hope, not lee all.

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02:17:05,920 --> 02:17:07,640
Speaker 4: Right, as we typically do or always do, if we

2645
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:09,840
Speaker 4: can fit in hub delays. How's it looking out there

2646
02:17:09,879 --> 02:17:12,000
Speaker 4: today for air travel one of.

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02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:14,440
Speaker 9: The days of the week we've had to fly. I

2648
02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:17,160
Speaker 9: think Salt Lake City is about the only hub that

2649
02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:19,360
Speaker 9: I've been able to find from a weather standpoint that

2650
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:22,760
Speaker 9: could see some delays. Chicago may be late in the day,

2651
02:17:22,760 --> 02:17:23,440
Speaker 9: but I think that's.

2652
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:23,880
Speaker 2: Going to be minimal.

2653
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:25,600
Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be Salt Lake and I don't

2654
02:17:25,640 --> 02:17:27,640
Speaker 9: think the delays are going to be any more than

2655
02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:29,879
Speaker 9: thirty to forty minutes there. So if you picked today,

2656
02:17:30,360 --> 02:17:32,000
Speaker 9: you picked a great one, not only from the good

2657
02:17:32,040 --> 02:17:35,400
Speaker 9: weather standpoint, but probably a reduction in turbulence, which is

2658
02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:37,760
Speaker 9: also nice. But that doesn't mean not to keep seatbelt on,

2659
02:17:37,840 --> 02:17:38,320
Speaker 9: please do so.

2660
02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:41,000
Speaker 4: Is you flying fair enough? But what I'm hearing is

2661
02:17:41,240 --> 02:17:44,160
Speaker 4: the government shutdown, even though it may impact air traffic,

2662
02:17:44,200 --> 02:17:47,440
Speaker 4: controller salaries or something, is not impacting air travel itself.

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02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:48,119
Speaker 4: At least yet.

2664
02:17:48,879 --> 02:17:48,920
Speaker 2: No.

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02:17:49,080 --> 02:17:53,560
Speaker 9: Last Friday we had thirty nine hundred flights that were delayed,

2666
02:17:54,120 --> 02:17:56,000
Speaker 9: and a lot of that's being touted because of the

2667
02:17:56,160 --> 02:17:58,360
Speaker 9: shut down blah blah blah blah blah. But again to

2668
02:17:58,440 --> 02:18:02,200
Speaker 9: introduce facts to the story, the average number of delays

2669
02:18:02,360 --> 02:18:05,039
Speaker 9: we've had this year has been forty one hundred a day.

2670
02:18:05,959 --> 02:18:08,840
Speaker 9: We actually had fewer delays on the snapshot I took

2671
02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:11,920
Speaker 9: on Friday than what we normally have, so that would

2672
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:15,119
Speaker 9: lend me to say, yes, we are having pockets of problems.

2673
02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:17,520
Speaker 9: I won't discount that, but Brian, don't tell me we're

2674
02:18:17,560 --> 02:18:19,680
Speaker 9: having a coast to coast problem if we have fewer

2675
02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:23,600
Speaker 9: delays now per day than what we have normally.

2676
02:18:24,600 --> 02:18:27,360
Speaker 4: Fair enough, Jay Rayliffe, thank you so much for joining

2677
02:18:27,400 --> 02:18:30,560
Speaker 4: the program every week. I thoroughly enjoy our exchange and

2678
02:18:30,640 --> 02:18:33,240
Speaker 4: the information we talk about. And I'll look forward to

2679
02:18:33,280 --> 02:18:35,480
Speaker 4: next Thursday and another discussion between now and then. Best

2680
02:18:35,560 --> 02:18:37,720
Speaker 4: of health and love to you, and of course you're

2681
02:18:37,760 --> 02:18:38,320
Speaker 4: better half.

2682
02:18:39,160 --> 02:18:39,920
Speaker 9: Same to you, my friend.

2683
02:18:39,959 --> 02:18:41,840
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks brother. It's a fifty four right now.

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Speaker 4: If you get a chance to listen, Dan