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Three full hours. 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: The gang is back together tonight. Last week I h 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: I was lost you miss without you. 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: I didn't miss you. I did miss you. I looked 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: and Drags was great. 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: Loved talking to Drags and he was in person, but 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: it just was not the rocky boyman experience that it 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: usually is. To frustrate you, and yes, you are, and 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: you got your fried pickles going on. 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: You're eating your try Tip steak. 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: Casadilla's same order every week. 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: You are. You're a creature of habit. You absolutely are. 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: Man. 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: We got big doings tonight, three hours to talk Bengals, Bearcats, 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: high school football, some fantasy football and more. 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: We've got to giveaway tonight. 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: I ask your server as they make your way, make 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: their way around. Two giveaways. We're giving away two tickets 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: to the game tomorrow night. And we're giving away another 37 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: Sean Volker print, the renowned artist who has some fantastic 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: Bengal prints. This a Bengal Tiger. Two separate drawings taking 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: place at eight o'clock. Got to be here to win. 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: Drop your ticket with your name on the back in 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: the bucketer. I guess, hand it to your server as 42 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: she is walking around, and we'll do that drawing coming 43 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: up at eight o'clock tonight. We have our cast of characters, 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: Trags checking at six twenty. Chad Brendle, Bearcat Journal on 45 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: the nationally ranked in Red Hot UC Bearcats at seven 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: oh six tonight, Greg Shoemaker tri State Football tonight. I 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: will not mention names, but there might be one of 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: our guests who late afternoons said to me, blank profanity. 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: I forgot it was tonight. He said, I'll send you 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: my notes as soon as I can. So he did. 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 2: He forgot, but he sent me the notes. So we'll 52 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: talk with that unnamed guest coming up at seven thirty 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: six tonight. And then Dan Klaskins, who was not that 54 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: guest who forgot which night it is. 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: We'll do our. 56 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: Fantasy football fix coming up at seven fifty tonight. We've 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: got Bengals Steelers to get to. We'll travel Rockies Road 58 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: and more. 59 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: I think we're set. 60 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: Frandon Phillis are here, so the truly the gang is 61 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: all here. Joe Wadell is producing back to the station, 62 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: Dave Abbott engineering to our left, ready to rock and roll? 63 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: Fine? Correct? Can I do that? I almost forgot what 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 3: to do next. 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: I guess I'll do the head Yes, oh yeah, the 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: Bengals placing tight end Mike Gasiki on the reserve injured 67 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: list with a pictoral injury today. He played in all 68 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: six games this season one start, caught eight passes with 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: sixty one yards. That means he'll miss at least four games. 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson listed as questionable for Tomorrow night with the hip. 71 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: Tanner Hudson ruled out with the concussion, so that means 72 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: no Mike Gasicki and no Tanner Hudson out too. Tight 73 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: cat ad did absolutely touchdown catch Steelers safety Deshaun Elliott 74 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: not traveling with the team to Cincinnati today for personal reasons. 75 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: You saw the escort, the devilcade of security bringing the 76 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: buses and Steelers to town. 77 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: There were Bengals fans throwing rocks at the buses, and the. 78 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: Whole day is true. 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: Deshaun Elliott listed his questionable to play tomorrow night as 80 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: a result of not making the trip. Could always go 81 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: over tomorrow, but listed as questionable. He had twelve tackles, 82 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: including four solo tackles, and Sundays went over Cleveland. 83 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: Keep an eye on that one. 84 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: Twenty fourth ranked bearcatsad to Stillwater to take on Oklahoma 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: State on Saturday. Scott Centerfield named to the Bear Bryant 86 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: Coach of the Year watch list. Today we'll preview the 87 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: matchup with Chad Brendela. Bearcat Journal has mentioned one hour 88 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: from now baseball Spencer Steer named a finalist for the 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 2: Rawlings Gold Glove Award at first base, and Kee Brian 90 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: Hayes named a finalist for the Gold Glove at third base. 91 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball Playoffs the Alds resumes in Seattle with 92 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: the Mariners leading the Jays two games first pitch eight 93 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: oh eight. The Dodgers took a commanding two games leader 94 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: with the Brewers last night, winning in Milwaukee. The series 95 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: shifts to La on Thursday. Soccer f C Cincinnati continuing 96 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: prep for the regular season finale against Montreal this weekend. 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: The Orange and Blue have clinched a spot in the 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty Conka Cap Champions Cup. They will compete in 99 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: the continent's highest level of competition, featuring the best clubs 100 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: in the region. For the third consecutive season, the tournament 101 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: draw takes plip Xavier announced the introduction of Musky Lagger, 102 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: reintroducing one of the Queen City's most iconic brewing brands, 103 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: Burger Beer. Portion of all sale retail sales from Muskie 104 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: Lagger will directly support Xavier student athletes through the All 105 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: for One fund and volleyball. Congratulations to Scott High School 106 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: senior captain Milon Minor for earning her two thousandth kill 107 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 2: in action last night versus Montgomery County. Last week, she 108 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: became Scott's all time leader in digs. What a career 109 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: a volleyball machine. Shout out to Milon Minor for the accomplishment. 110 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: All right, those are the headlines. I think we're ready 111 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: to rock and roll. Let's start with an easy one. 112 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: I thought, and I'm often accused of being too optimistic 113 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: and a bit of a homer, but I thought even 114 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: the most jaded person would have to have some wat 115 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: of a sense of of encouragement, if not a little 116 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: bit of hope from the second half and what they 117 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: seem to establish, at least offensively with Joe Flacco. 118 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: Yes, look, NFL is not a moral victory sort of thing, 119 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: but come on, this is entertainment. 120 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: This is supposed to be fun. 121 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: I think we can take some joy and how the 122 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 4: offense looked, how Joe Flacco, I think it's fun that 123 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: he came in with like three days of practice, wound 124 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: up playing very very well. 125 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: So so yeah. 126 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 4: I think you can certainly take some positive things with 127 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 4: especially how the offense plays. 128 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: We'll get into more on Joe a little bit later 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: on in the hour. He might get a standing ovation 130 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: as one of our weekly segments, so we'll get into 131 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: the defense and special teams. The quick takeaway for me, 132 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: it is maddening to think that once they found a 133 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: little bit of rhythm in the offense in the second half, 134 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: then all they needed was a stop from the just 135 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: one and the defense gives up the Bengals score, defense 136 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: gives up touchdown, Bengal score defense gives up a touchdown, 137 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: Bengal score defense gives up a field goal, and it's 138 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: just could could you offer a little bit of help 139 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: other than missing depending on which website you looked at, 140 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: nineteen tackles on Sunday, Yeah. 141 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 4: And that was just hard. I mean, Bengals score, It's 142 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: a seven point game and then boom, boom boom just 143 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: right down the field what three times? 144 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: Yep? Not good. 145 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: And even the even special teams allowed, i think, get 146 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: back to back after scores. They allowed a thirty seven 147 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: yard kick return, they allowed a thirty eight yard kick return. 148 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: You know, a quick random thought. I meant to look 149 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: this up anywhere. Is it mirroreor does it seem like 150 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: there are kick field goals being blocked left and right 151 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: in the NFL? 152 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 153 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know why I haven't seen like 154 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: a rite up or a study of well, this is 155 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: what's happened. But it seems like there's field goals in 156 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: point afters blocked, like every time you turn around around 157 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: the NFL. 158 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: We'll get into that maybe at some point as well. 159 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Let's do this. 160 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: Let's take our first time out. Trags warming Up of 161 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: the Bullpen will join us at six twenty. If you're 162 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: in the house, get a ticket from your server. If 163 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 2: you're on your way here, get a ticket from your server. 164 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: If you're looking for something to do tonight, get here. 165 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: We're at the Long Necks in Richwood. It is the 166 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: Roundtable Show. It is presented by Postman Law, and it's 167 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: right here on seven hundred WLW six nineteen. 168 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: Seven hundred WLW. 169 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: The Cincinni Tax Resolution powered by Tope showed in Round 170 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: Table Show or in Long Necks in Richwood, brought to 171 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: you in part by Hawksword Blood Centers, Hawksword Donors Saved 172 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: lives always presented by Postman Law. We love Postman Law, 173 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: Lance Pacalister, Rocky Boyman. Let's welcome to the man who 174 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: joins us every week. What a treat it was to 175 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: have him joined me last week sitting in that very 176 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: spot you were in, Rocky, he's all over the Bengals 177 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: for CLNS Sincywithy dot com, host of the Jungle Roar 178 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: podcast on YouTube, the man they call Trags, Mike Petralia, 179 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: how are we doing. 180 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 5: Lance, Rocky, thank you very much for having me and Lance. 181 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 5: It was a terrific meal last week, so I'm still 182 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 5: savoring that. 183 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: Believe it or not, There you go. 184 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: Let's start with I guess injury news or projections to 185 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Trey listed his question, well, do you believe 186 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: there's any chance he plays tomorrow night? 187 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? I do. 188 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 5: I don't think the Bengals are playing games. I think 189 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 5: they know they need Trey Henderson. It's a hit issue 190 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 5: and Rocky. You know, those things can be touch and go. 191 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 5: It can be cause of backspathom like it did at 192 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: the end of the first half and it locked up 193 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 5: and he didn't get back in the game. And I 194 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: don't know how much of that was game situation related 195 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: last Sunday in Green Bay. But after I'm sure hours 196 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 5: and hours and hours of treatment this week, if he 197 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 5: can get back on the field, I think he will. 198 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 5: And as I tweeted about a half hour ago, what 199 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 5: would make it doubly important is it would be only 200 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 5: the third time this year that the Bengals have had 201 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 5: Shamar Stewart and Trey Hendrickson on the field at the 202 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 5: same time. 203 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: I charge one of the surprises, at least for me 204 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: from last week's game, and I don't know how much 205 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: tip off you had coming into that game, but was 206 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 4: the lack of snaps for Logan Wilson in favor. 207 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: Of Barrett Cartery Berrick carr got. 208 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 4: Sixty one snaps. On one hand, yes, Logan Wilson hasn't 209 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: made a ton of splash plays, but also he hasn't 210 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: been terrible. What was the reason I guess for giving 211 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 4: Barrick Carter so many snaps in his first start. 212 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 5: I think it's forward looking, Rocky. I think they think 213 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 5: that simply Barrett Carter and the Demetrius Knight Junior have 214 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 5: the best opportunity to cover the most space, especially in 215 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 5: nickel situations, And I think Al Golden and he even 216 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 5: acknowledged this to us yesterday. It would rather have those 217 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 5: two young players get up the speed quickly and pay 218 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 5: the price of missing a couple of plays. Unfortunately, one 219 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 5: of those plays resulted in Josh Jacob's parting of the 220 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 5: sea and running right up the a gap in for 221 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 5: a fourteen yarddown. That was a killer maybe twenty four 222 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 5: to ten. And Al Golden's like, well, we got to 223 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 5: live with part of that. I guess to get these 224 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 5: guys up to speed, I think Logan Wilson is a 225 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 5: heady player. 226 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: He's a leader. 227 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: Players love being around him in the locker room. But 228 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 5: the Bengals are making a decision at this point that 229 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 5: they would trade out the younger speed and quickness rather 230 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 5: than have Logan Wilson's knowledge and quite frankly, is tackling ability. 231 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 5: One thing that stood out to me and it stood 232 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 5: out to a lot of people. Bengals had nineteen mistackles 233 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 5: against Green Bay. That's the most in the Zach Taylor era. 234 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 5: That's saying quite a bit. 235 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: Treggs Logan seems a little unclear on the messaging he's 236 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: getting from the coaches with this decision. How is he 237 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: handling all of this that has taken place this. 238 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 5: Week, well, he couldn't have handled it better than he 239 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 5: did yesterday with us. I was in there, I was 240 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 5: in the locker room, and the Logan was saying, how 241 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: much he's going to pour in to Barrett Carter and 242 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: make sure that he is up to speed on the 243 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: defense is humanly possible, because frankly, that's his role as 244 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 5: a captain on defense. He's one of three captains along 245 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 5: with bj Hill and Trey Henderson. And sometimes you've got 246 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 5: to live with going through difficult parts of your career. 247 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 5: He even got very philosophical and said that when his 248 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 5: kids grow up, he's going to reflect on a time 249 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 5: like this where things didn't go his way. He got demoted, 250 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 5: he wasn't playing as much as he would like, but 251 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 5: still he found a way mentally to get through it. 252 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 5: And that's the way Logan Wilson has always handled things. 253 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 5: And that's why I think the Bengals keep him around 254 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 5: because he's not only a heady player, but he's got 255 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 5: the right temperament in a locker room that can go 256 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: south quick when you've lost four in a row and 257 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,239 Speaker 5: you've just been benched. 258 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: Travis. 259 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: What has Joe Flacco said, if anything, about how much 260 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: more progress can be made now getting a second week 261 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: in this system and learning the verbiage and getting comfortable 262 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: with the players here this week. 263 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 5: I think really what he said yesterday Rocky was that 264 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 5: he knows where the receivers, namely Jamar and t are 265 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 5: going to be when they run their routes. I think 266 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: in that first half, you don't know for sure how 267 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: the Stars are going to run their routes until they 268 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 5: run their routes in a game. Now, Joe Flacco especially, 269 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 5: you could see it in the first half. He didn't 270 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 5: feel that comfortable, had very little rhythm. They came out, 271 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 5: they established the running game, and I don't think Flaco 272 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 5: felt as rushed, even for a forty year old. When 273 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 5: you get thrown into a new system and in five 274 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: days are expected to pick up a pass first offense, 275 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 5: that's a lot to expect, even for a guy that 276 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 5: has eighteen years of NFL experience. Well, he got the 277 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: first half out of the way. I think he acclimated 278 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 5: very quickly, and I think he believes that he's going 279 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: to have a much better time tomorrow night against the 280 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 5: Steelers on a short week because the defense doesn't have 281 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 5: as much time to prepare what the Bengals are going 282 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 5: to want to do with Joe Flacco. I think he 283 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 5: sees that as an advantage. But look, I'm old school. 284 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 5: The Bengals need to run the ball, and their lack 285 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 5: of pass protection is to me directly related to their 286 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 5: inability to win at the line of scrimmage and run 287 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 5: the ball. 288 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: Trags I said of Joe Flacco last week, and I'll 289 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: say it again this week. Prior to him arriving here, 290 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: I only heard sound bites of him over his career. 291 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: The more I hear him talk in those press conferences, 292 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: the more impressed I am in terms of just how 293 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: wise and reflective and calm he appears to be. What's 294 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: your impression of him from that standpoint? 295 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: Exactly? 296 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: That lance that he's calm, he doesn't get flustered in 297 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 5: the pocket, The game doesn't speed up on him, doesn't 298 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 5: mean he's going to complete every pass, doesn't mean he's 299 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 5: going to not miss some passes or you know, throw 300 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 5: the ball away early when maybe there was a play 301 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 5: to be made. We saw that, I think once or 302 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 5: twice in the first half last week. But he doesn't 303 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 5: get flustered. And I think when the Bengals, the Bengals 304 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 5: were smart to go out and get a quarterback like Flacout. Yes, 305 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 5: he's forty, but he is someone you can trust to 306 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 5: try and learn the offense as quickly as he's been 307 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 5: required to learn it, go out and execute it. And 308 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 5: he is a smart quarterback. He's a winning quarterback that 309 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 5: knows the Steelers, knows the AFC North, that carries a 310 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 5: lot of value. And if Joe Burrow is indeed out 311 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 5: until the second or third week in December, the Bengals, 312 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 5: to me, the magic number is seven wins. That means 313 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 5: and if they can get five wins with Joe Flacco, 314 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 5: they've got a chance for Joe Burrow to come back, 315 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: maybe run the table, go ten and seven. I think 316 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 5: long term, that's what Joe Flacco gives the Bengals a 317 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: realistic chance of accomplishing. 318 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: I mean, to your guys point, he like has the 319 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 4: calmness of a serial killer. I mean, he really does. 320 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: And Joe Burrow does too. I think that's one thing 321 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: that makes him great. But yeah, Joe Flacco is almost 322 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: expressionless on the sideline, which is probably a good a 323 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: good quality to have for a quarterback. Tracks it in 324 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: terms of of this Steelers team, what of the Bengals 325 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: coaches have been talking about in terms of you know, 326 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: you know, obviously have a great defense and Aaron Rodgers 327 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: is playing at a high level, but with some specific 328 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: things they've pointed out to how they got a battle 329 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: against the Steelers here tomorrow night. 330 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 5: Well, I mean it starts with their front seven right 331 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 5: in their front, their front line. Even Jamar Chase said 332 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 5: that yesterday. They know that they've got to get off 333 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 5: their releases quick because the Steelers have always had a 334 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 5: great front. They've always done damage against the Bengals. And again, 335 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 5: I go back, if you have a really good physical 336 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 5: run attack, you can counter some of that and diffuse 337 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 5: it a little bit to give your pass blockers a 338 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 5: little bit more of an honest attempt to pick up 339 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 5: these pass rushers. If you're dropping back, you know, eight 340 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 5: out of ten times you're in trouble, and Alex high 341 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 5: Smith and TJ. Watt they're going to come get you. 342 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 5: Damn Hayward. Obviously, they've got guys along the front line 343 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 5: that are game wreckers. That's what they do, and that 344 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 5: is the strategy of the Steelers and always has been 345 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 5: as long as Mike Comlin's been there, and I don't 346 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 5: expect that to change this week. One thing the Steelers 347 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 5: have done a very good job of in the first 348 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 5: in their first five games, going four and one, is 349 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 5: taking the ball away, something the Bengals have preached and 350 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 5: desperately wanted from their team, but they haven't done it 351 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 5: at the rate that the Steelers have. And I think 352 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 5: obviously that's the key to watch tomorrow night. 353 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 2: Trag's not to get lost a storyline, not to get 354 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: lost in the shuffle, and maybe for an update for 355 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: those just getting in their car, I have not heard 356 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: the news. Not only are the Bengals going to be 357 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: without Mike Kasiki for a while, but they're without Tanner 358 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: Hudson tomorrow night as well. 359 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: Correct. 360 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 5: Right, that's correct, And I'm glad you brought that up, Lance, 361 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 5: because that means Noah Fan stepped into more of a 362 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 5: primary role. I think a lot of people have been 363 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 5: disappointed with the production of Noah Fan and want to 364 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 5: see him pick it up. They know that he's done 365 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 5: it before with Denver and Seattle. He needs to start 366 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 5: doing it tomorrow night. He can be a bigger part 367 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 5: of the offense, and Tanner Hudson suffered the concussion. He's 368 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 5: in concussion protocol. That is why he will miss He 369 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 5: has officially been ruled out for tomorrow night. And obviously 370 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 5: without Kasiki, who is obviously more of a receiver than 371 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 5: he is a true tight end, it's going to be 372 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 5: Noah Fan and Drew Sample and just hope that and 373 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 5: obviously Cam Grandy he'll be active as well. But you've 374 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: got to get more from Nolah fans than you've got 375 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 5: Scotten in the first six weeks of the season. 376 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: You continue to pump out fantastic content for those who 377 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: want more, Tell him how they can read, watch, listen, 378 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: follow along. 379 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 6: Well. 380 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 5: I have a feature column up on Stealing s SNC 381 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 5: with a y dot com on the things that Al 382 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 5: Golden needs to do to work over his ever improving defense, 383 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 5: but he still has a lot to fix. That's up 384 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: on Stealing s sency dot com. 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Still ahead, Let's get into a little bit 395 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: more on Joe Flacco, his performance, things that jumped out, 396 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 2: and work our way through this into the seven o'clock 397 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: hour with a number of different guests adding to the mix, 398 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: some UC football conversation, some high school football, and some 399 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: fantasy football. 400 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: That's all ahead. 401 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: It's the Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon Roundtable Show. 402 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 2: We're at Long Necks in Richwood is presented by Postman 403 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: Laws seven hundred WLW. 404 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 6: Claco catches the shot gun staff Pump fakes throws into 405 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 6: the end zone, caught in the back of the end 406 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 6: zone under the. 407 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: Goal post by Tanner. Hudson and the Bengals gamble and win. 408 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: Going forward on fourth down. 409 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 6: And getting the touchdown, Hudson does a lambo leaf. He 410 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 6: finds two Bengals fans in the first row and the 411 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 6: Bengals are back. 412 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: In the game. 413 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: Six point thirty seven, seven hundred WLW. We're back at 414 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: Round Long Necks. Heay in Richwood The Roundtable Ship Lance 415 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: McAlister Rocky Boyman brought you in part by ever dry 416 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 2: water proofing. 417 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: It's not dry until it's ever dry. 418 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: I'm back in my comfort zone because last week, I 419 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: mean realize you were not here on my right and 420 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: Brandon Phillis were not here in front of. 421 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: Me, so I was like, I was like, well, where 422 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: did everybody go? I'm on my own tonight. Everybody's back together, 423 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: back together. Everything's good. You're like me. You like routine 424 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: and I do very routine. 425 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: Guy, Remind me to tell you the story of the 426 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: text conversation I had with my daughter last night, because 427 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: you'll learn as your kids get older and the gap 428 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 2: between what you follow listen to watch and appreciate as 429 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: much greater than what. So you're always trying to like 430 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: find a way to connect. Well, have me tell the 431 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 2: story later about my music and what I was texting 432 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: her and what her reacts Tony No, I was not saying, 433 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: you know, I was current and she was a little 434 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: bit amazed. 435 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: I'll tell you later. Let's do our standing ovation about 436 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: that for a tease time. 437 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: For this week's Standing Ovation, it is presented by Ovation, 438 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: the urban resort where Cincinnati coming to the Newport come together. 439 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: Bold moves deserved, Bold views at Ovation luxury waterfront condos, 440 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: bring the Cincinnati skyline at Ohio River right to your window. 441 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: Don't miss your chance to be first be Bold Tour 442 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: today at Ovation on the River dot Com Ovation a 443 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: plod life Experience Ovation. 444 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: I think it is worthy. 445 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is worthy of a standing Ovation from Ovation because, 446 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: I mean, all things considered, I had a really odd 447 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: sense going into that game of really no idea what 448 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: to expect. I just hope they were more competitive than 449 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: they had been the three weeks prior. First half was 450 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: difficult to watch. They had the ball for how many 451 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: plays in the first go, They had the ball for 452 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: two minutes in the first quarter, They had one yard 453 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: in the first quarter, and it was kind of miserable 454 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: at the half. But as we alluded to off the top, 455 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: that second half, Joe Flacco led an offense and he 456 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: looked like a capable and competent NFL quarterback. And it 457 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: was not the slam Jake Browning, but it was leaps 458 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: and leaps and bounds from what Jake Brownick had done 459 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: in the previous three. 460 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: Weeks, and he pulled a veteran movement as he found 461 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: his best players. Yes, you know, and we've been screaming 462 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: about that and to hell with scheme. You know, I 463 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: understand that the need for it and all this and that, 464 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: but I always say, if you're gonna go down, go down, 465 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: trying to put your best players in a position to succeed, 466 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: and he did that. 467 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: I loved the pass he threw on fourth and fourth, 468 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: the nineteen yard touchdown to Chase, the catch, the chase mate, 469 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: I still. 470 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 4: His I don't know what route that was. 471 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: Well, the beauty of this was as it unfolded, as 472 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: the week is unfolded, and it's kind of been pieced together. 473 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 3: It was. 474 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: It was something that Jamar saw that he told Joe, 475 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: as they're either in the holder huddle or breaking the huddle, 476 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: let's try this. They've been doing this, let's do this. 477 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: So Joe went off script with that play. And in fact, 478 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: when Zach was asked after the game what that play was, 479 00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: Zach didn't know. 480 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: I mean, he said, in amazement. 481 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: He says, I really can't tell you what that was 482 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: because they kind of made it up on their own. 483 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: It was something Jamar saw and something that Joe kind 484 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 2: of followed his lead on and trusted him. But man, 485 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: the catch and the strength to grab it and just 486 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: hold it and the way he uses his body is 487 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: something amazing. But Joe Flacco the ability to make a 488 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: play like that and to you know, the way that 489 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 2: game unfolded, there were even moments where if something wasn't there, 490 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: he didn't try to do too much with it. You 491 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: saw him just throw the ball away. Play's not gonna work. 492 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: They've they've read that play. Just threw it into the 493 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: ground or threw it out of bounds and just moved 494 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: on to the next play. And there's something to that ability. Jake, 495 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: as you saw, would try to extend some things and 496 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: just want to fire down in the middle of the 497 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: field and get interception intercepted. Joe just has that working 498 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: knowledge as a veteran. Some things just aren't gonna work, 499 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to force it. Let's just move on. 500 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: To down two or three or whatever it is. 501 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: Right and which comes from experience and being there one 502 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: hundred times and saying, hey, we just maybe we won't 503 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: have an answer or I don't know exactly what, but 504 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: you listen to Jamar Chase and you know, good things out. 505 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: Had I told you a week ago tonight that Joe 506 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: Flacco would play a game and not turn it over 507 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 2: and only be sacked one time, but I think we 508 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: both would have said, heck, yeah, we'll take that. 509 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: And then that's always coach speak, right, Well, we can't 510 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 4: have any turnovers, we can't have sacks. But it really 511 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: does work, right. I mean, it's it's hard to win 512 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 4: a football game when you give the other team one, two, 513 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: sometimes in the last couple of weeks three extra possessions. 514 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, the fact that he was able to and 515 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: that's what the one thing I didn't know about Flacco 516 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 4: was he was seemed really good at reading the field, 517 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: quick decision making and finding that the spots where to 518 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 4: get out guy the ball, and he did well at 519 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: that got the ball out his hand. 520 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: I also love the fact he has As we talked 521 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: with Trags, there is a a calm and a like 522 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 2: an iciness, and I don't want to make too much 523 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: out of it, but it's just hearing him talk this 524 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 2: week about where he is in his life, his career 525 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 2: and the opportunity to keep playing. He's just a reflective, 526 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: big picture, and I think it translates on the field 527 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: is Trags answer the question to just a calmness. And 528 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: you mentioned just seeing him on the sidelines. It was 529 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: like he was just sitting there at the park. But 530 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: that comes with a working knowledge and experience of everything 531 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: he's seen. There's nothing that can throw him out a whack. 532 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 4: I think that that mindset mentality. I don't think it's 533 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: good for every position. I think you want your wide 534 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 4: receivers to be kind of nutty and crazy in your corners, 535 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 4: to think they. 536 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: Can't be beaten and be kind of nuts. 537 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: But I think if you want, if you ask a 538 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 4: coach what kind of personality you want your quarterback to have, 539 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: just to be like almost like careless, not like careless, 540 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 4: but like flat lives. There's not that doesn't get up, 541 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 4: doesn't get down, just just kind of just calm and complete. 542 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: Because bad things are gonna happen at that position. But 543 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 4: if you can find a way to have not to 544 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: not have a mistake turned into three mistakes or turn 545 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 4: into five mistakes. So his personality fits very very well. 546 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: You know another thing that stood out to me and 547 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: I think the pushback when they made the trade from 548 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 2: the dissenters against the trade was he's going to get 549 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: killed behind that offensive eye, He's gonna get killed. He 550 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: gets sacked one time, and I think there's something to 551 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: be said for with that experience and knowledge that you're 552 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: not fleet of foot. There is a craftiness to being 553 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: in the pocket. And there were times where like in 554 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: the fourth and fourth the nineteen year passed to Chase, 555 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: it seemed like he dropped a little bit deeper into 556 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: pocket to create a little bit more space. There was 557 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: a play I may be in the Tanner Hudson touchdown 558 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: where there was a lot of traffic, but he moved. 559 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: It was like the game of Frogger. He moved up 560 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: a little to the side, a little up, a little 561 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: to the side, a little. And there's just something to 562 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: being able to navigate in a packet, in a pocket 563 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: without being fleet of foot. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, they 564 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: were able to do stuff like that. They were never 565 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: fast guys. Obviously they had better offensive lines, but you 566 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: know the point, they knew their way around the pocket 567 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: well absolutely. 568 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 4: And if you recall a couple I mean back when 569 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow was actually the game, he got hurt and 570 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: a lot of people are screaming, all you know, the 571 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: O line, the O line. And I may remember making 572 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 4: the point like, what how come a guy like Brady 573 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: and Peyton Manning who I played with and played against, 574 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 4: how come those guys were less fleet of foot than 575 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: Joe Burr. They never seemed to get sacked. You know, 576 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 4: they always knew when to throw the ball away. They 577 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 4: always knew kind of like you said, kind of had 578 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 4: to shift up or shift back. And so yeah, there's 579 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 4: a lot of that that it falls on the old line, 580 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: but yeah it falls on the quarterback too, and the 581 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: good ones know how to just do a subtle little 582 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: move to get out of Arnold's way or throw the 583 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 4: ball away and not take those sacks. 584 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: Well, here from Joe Flacco a little bit later on 585 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: in the show about the Steelers. This will be his 586 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: twenty third matchup lifetime against the Steelers. He's eleven and 587 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: eleven in his career, and you'll hear him talking about 588 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: playing at the age of forty against the quarterback who 589 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: is at the age of forty one come tomorrow night. 590 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: That is all ahead. Up next, we talked about Jamar Chase. 591 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: Let's get a little bit deeper on that. I think 592 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: he'll be part of the conversation our Drive of the week, 593 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 2: the defensive Player of the Week, and ramifications for tomorrow night. 594 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase was asked if tomorrow night is a must win, 595 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: We'll get into that next. 596 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: He's rocky. 597 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm Lance, Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon Roundtable 598 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: Show We're at Long Next in Richwood, presented by Postman 599 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: Law on seven hundred WLW. 600 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 7: Clack Go throwing and the pass his ca b Oh, 601 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 7: my good man, How in God's name to Jamar Chase 602 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 7: catch that ball? 603 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 8: Now? 604 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 6: He's doing the gritty in the end zone. 605 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: The Bengals get. 606 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 6: A nineteen her touchdown fast to Jamar Chase when he 607 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 6: wasn't open. 608 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. 609 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. Still don't know I made the catch, 610 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. On Sunday, Welcome back to the Roundtable Show. 611 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: We're hanging at it Long Next in Richwood till nine 612 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: o'clock tonight. We would love to have you stop by, 613 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: hang out with us, Say hi and enjoy the food, 614 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: the forty nine televisions with the baseball game on tonight, 615 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: and so much more and uh plenty to get to 616 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: between now and nine o'clock tonight, Let's make our drive 617 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: of last week's game, brought to you by Driveway Dumpsters 618 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. Black and yellow does mean trash. Visit d 619 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: dumpsters dot com. Let's make it the Mammoth seventeen play, 620 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: seventy eight yard drive consuming ten minutes and fourteen seconds, 621 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: resulting in a touchdown Tanner Hudson two yard catch for 622 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: the TD. Unfortunately, he's in concussion protocol and ruled out 623 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: for tomorrow night's game. But anytime a Bengals offense manages 624 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: to move seventeen plays on one drive, bad is going 625 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: to be our drive of last week's game. And we'll 626 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: flip the script and pick our defensive play from last week. 627 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: Brought to you by O'Connor Aschani and Levy Attorneys. 628 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: You know, attorneys you trust. 629 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: Visit oh aldash lol dot com. 630 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 4: There's the first time for everything, Lance and you've you've now. 631 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: Now, I will admit now, not only did I do 632 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: it last week, so I'm on a streak two in 633 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: a row. I will admit when I started to do 634 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: that read, I didn't realize that's what it was, and 635 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,959 Speaker 2: I almost paused and screwed myself up. I just started 636 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: reading it and then I remember it in my mind like, oh, man, 637 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: that's the O'Connor, a Johnny and Levy. 638 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: You almost got the yips, and I almost got the yips. 639 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 4: But I in my head, I'm thinking, you, like, practice 640 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: this at home in front of a mirror or something, 641 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 4: just to finally get it right. 642 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: I mean we are on like what week? What is 643 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: this week? 644 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 4: Six seven? 645 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: Well, now you're rubbing it in. Yes, I am. 646 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: I sent you the picture, and I sent fram the 647 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: picture in just a classic moment last week, I'm I'm 648 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: driving and I pull up to the stoplight and I 649 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: look over to the side and I'll be danged if 650 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: it's not a metro bus wrapped in an O'Connor, a 651 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: Channi and Levy billboard. Yeah, And like, yeah, I said, 652 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: well that's a side the bus is now taunting me. 653 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 4: Yes, God is telling you Land actually like here trying 654 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 4: to help you. 655 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: This bus. 656 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: And then read the liner come Wednesday night this week, 657 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: all right? Was what was my original point on all this? Oh, 658 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: the defensive play of the game. It's so ridiculous. We'll 659 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: go with the interception. DJ Turner got his hand on it. 660 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: Geno's Stone hauled it in for the pick. That is 661 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: our defensive play of the game. Jamar Chase was asked 662 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: yesterday about what everybody's talking about, whether or not you 663 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: could apply the must win tag to this game. Here's 664 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: Jamar on the Steelers matchup and what it means. 665 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 9: How important is this game for the team for the 666 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 9: season considering the AFC playoff picture? 667 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 10: For you guys, I know it's really still been How 668 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 10: important as it right now? 669 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 11: It's important just because of this game up in this 670 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 11: division game. I don't want to play two division games 671 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 11: so far, so I mean this is the next important one. 672 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: Losing four straight? 673 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 10: How much do you guys need a win to get 674 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 10: things spinning in the right direction? 675 00:32:59,480 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 12: Though? 676 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 11: I say we need to win bad just because like 677 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 11: you said, it's full straight, uh, and we know we're 678 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 11: close to winning, if not just winning, just getting a 679 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 11: lot of wins. You know we're close to it and 680 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 11: it's right there, it's in our reach. We gotta face 681 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 11: we gotta finish it and go it off the right way. 682 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: People look at a game and say like this is 683 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: some must win game? Is what do you think about that? 684 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 11: Been hearing it's five years. 685 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 4: I've been here. 686 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 11: I've been here every week. Something that y'all say a 687 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 11: lot out here, you know. I mean, at the end 688 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 11: of the day, we know we gotta win certain games. 689 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 11: We know we gotta be division teams for us to 690 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 11: put ourselves in position to be number one in the division. 691 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 11: But you know, at the end of the day, we 692 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 11: we gotta actually put the work in and do it 693 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 11: when it's game time. 694 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: Jabar Chase earlier in the week, Jeremy Ralph Fox nineteen 695 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: leading off the questioning there, look, is it a musk 696 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: game or whether are they eliminated tomorrow night with a loss. No, 697 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: the path becomes a lot more difficult. But at some 698 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: point you just gotta win a football game. If you 699 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: don't win tomorrow night, you've lost five in a row, 700 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: and you can in all these scenarios you want. When 701 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: you've lost five in a row and you drop two, 702 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: if you do it to two and five, then that's 703 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: an awfully steep hill. This team just needs to feel victory. 704 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. A few things so yeah, 705 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 2: first of all, it's just hard to. 706 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 4: Go in to work every day for going on over 707 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: now over a month and not feel any success, So 708 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: that's the first thing. Secondly, you know, you lose five straight, 709 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: that's when all the demons creep in. Everyone starts worrying 710 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 4: about themselves and my catches and my tackles and that 711 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 4: sort of thing. 712 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: So I think you're in danger of that. 713 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 4: I mean, just historically, if you look it up, there's 714 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: been just four teams in NFL history that have lost 715 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 4: five or more games consecutively and made the playoffs twenty twenty, 716 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 4: Washington twenty eighteen, Indianapolis twenty fifteen, Kansas City nineteen seventy. 717 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. 718 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 4: So it can happen, but man, it makes it that 719 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 4: much tougher. 720 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: Who do you think you are? You're stepping on my researches. 721 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: Where'd you pull that one out? Yeah? That's a nugget, 722 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: and I usually come up with nuggets. You don't like that, No, 723 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 3: stay on your own side, stay on your. 724 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 4: Own lane, stay in my football talk. 725 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: You know. 726 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,479 Speaker 2: I laughed though, when when Jamar said you all say 727 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: that a lot. I've heard it for five years and 728 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: I thought about it, and he's right from the standpoint 729 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: of usually it's been the slow starts, but it seems 730 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: like every year we're talking about a crisis point for 731 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: this team because they've dug a hole. And that's that's 732 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: a where mentally on a football team when you're always 733 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: literally figurative they playing behind, playing behind in games, but 734 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 2: playing behind in the standings, knowing every week our margin 735 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 2: of air is just so small. And it just it's 736 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: been that way, as he said, for seemingly all five 737 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: of his years. 738 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 4: Well usually it's been because of their lack of success 739 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 4: at the beginning of the Yes, it's like, well, have 740 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 4: you won one or two of those games in September, 741 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 4: you wouldn't be facing this must win. Well, this year 742 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 4: they happened to get this too early in the season, 743 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 4: but then you lose four straight and yeah, so it's 744 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 4: a bad place to be in. I wish we weren't 745 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 4: talking about the Bengals year in and year out in 746 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 4: that sort of situation, but that's what it is. 747 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: Now to the bigger picture of and we'll talk about 748 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 2: this later as well, because you ask one of the 749 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: pirates are pirates one of the Steelers writers earlier today 750 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 2: about this. The Bengals are fortunate in the fact that 751 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: the Steelers right now are four and one. Bengals are 752 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: two and four, So if you can take care of 753 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 2: them tomorrow night Bengals go to three and four, Steelers 754 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:34,959 Speaker 2: are four and. 755 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 3: Two, the gap shrinks. 756 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: But in the big picture of the AFC, it's not 757 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: like there's anybody who is like the Behemoth, who's like 758 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 2: the King of the Hill. I mean, you're talking about 759 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: a conference right now where the Ravens are one and five, 760 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: the Bills have lost two in a row, the Chiefs 761 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 2: are three and three, Houston's two and three. I'm not 762 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 2: sure I'm completely convinced that the Indianapolis Colts at five 763 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: and one are for real. New England's four and two. 764 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 2: It's a nicety. Maybe they have staying power, but there's 765 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 2: not a whole lot there that screams they are the 766 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: class of the AFC. And because of that, the Bengals 767 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: stay in the periphery right around that bottom of that 768 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 2: playoff pick. 769 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, amazingly, it's still right there to be to be caught. 770 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 4: And yeah, you win this one, which maybe turns into another, 771 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 4: turns into three. 772 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 3: Now you're five and four at the break. 773 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 4: The other thing I want to say is I think 774 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 4: it's also a near must win because you know, like 775 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 4: what we were. 776 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 3: Talking about earlier. 777 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 4: Okay, it's it's Flacco's first game, and the offense looked 778 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 4: better after looking terrible for a month, So okay, we 779 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 4: have a good feeling. I think those days are over. 780 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 4: There's no taking any consolation. 781 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 3: That's a great point. You've used up all that, if 782 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 3: you used up all. 783 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 4: Your your currency in terms of moral victory from here 784 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 4: on out, it's it's not. 785 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: Yeah that that's a really good point, as you say, 786 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: And I think about it, because there were moments emotionally 787 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 2: where this team had to deal with Burrows injury. 788 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: Then there were moments where. 789 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: For three weeks it was just terrific with Jake Browning, 790 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 2: and there was a little bit of that by a 791 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 2: game time with Flacco, and now all that time is evaporated. 792 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 3: It's like back to man. 793 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 2: It's a really good point because it's like they're back 794 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: to normal football for the first time in a long time. 795 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: They've got a capable quarterback and now show us what 796 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 2: you got. 797 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 4: Ye And people got somewhat good feelings coming out of 798 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 4: last week, and the Packers are one of the best 799 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 4: teams in the league, and a multiple times you're within 800 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 4: one score in that game. Okay, good, here we go, boys. 801 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 4: Let's you come out and flop on Thursday night football 802 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 4: against Arrival was your fifth straight loss. 803 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 3: It's curt when and added bonus. 804 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: Traditionally, the home team on the Thursday night games playing 805 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 2: a division game has a decided advantage the team that travels. 806 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 2: The numbers are dramatically against teams to travel, so you've 807 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 2: got that as well. And not to get overly out 808 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: over my skis, but the reality is, if you just 809 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: look at the schedule and you see Steelers, Jets, Bears, 810 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 2: it allows you at least a moment to think, boy, 811 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: if they could take care of all three at home, 812 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 2: how how often do you get three straight home games? 813 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: If you could take care of all three of those, 814 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: then you hit the buy at five and four. Can 815 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: you imagine the way we would view this team if 816 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 2: they were to hit the buy at five and four. 817 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: We we'd be We'd be celebrating and drinking drinks with 818 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 2: umbrellas and nine apples in them and everything. So there 819 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 2: we go again, we're getting ahead of ourselves. Just win 820 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 2: tomorrow night when tomorrow I've now effectively talked us into 821 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 2: their five and four at the bye, and nobody wants 822 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: to play the Bengals. 823 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: The second episode, You do not want to Face. 824 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,959 Speaker 2: You do not replace face on Flacco lead team coming 825 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 2: off a break at five and four winners A three straight. 826 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 2: We are so ridiculous. Just take a time out. We'll 827 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 2: come back in the seven o'clock A. Chad Brendle talks Bearcats. 828 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 2: He's Rocky, I'm Lance. 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They had to still Water Oklahoma Saturday night 853 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: to face Oklahoma State. Bearcats are number twenty four in 854 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 2: the country, winners of what four straight went away from 855 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 2: Bowl eligibility, but with much bigger goals in mind than that, 856 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 2: they are three and oh tied for first in the 857 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: Big twelve. Let's talk about it with the man from 858 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: Bearcat Journal Bearcat journal dot com. 859 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 3: That would be Chad Brendle. How are you. 860 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 13: Five straight plans? 861 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 3: I don't want a short change, no one. 862 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 13: I mean, I know we try to erase that Northwestern 863 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 13: State gave him from our memory. 864 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 4: But it does count. 865 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 3: Yes, that's count the win column. 866 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't want to spend a ton of time 867 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 2: on Saturday, but you'd be perfect to do this. For 868 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 2: those who did not follow or watch and they see 869 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 2: twenty to eleven against UCF, give a little explanation of 870 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 2: just how disjointed that second half was. I laughed last 871 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: night on his Coaches show, Scott said, at times it 872 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 2: was like watching paint dry because his offense was standing 873 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: on the sidelines while UCF just held the ball and 874 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 2: held the ball and went on like nineteen played and 875 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,919 Speaker 2: just it was amazing the disparity in plays and time 876 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 2: of possession. 877 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 13: Las. I think one stat tells the whole story, and 878 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 13: it's one of the most amazing things I've ever seen 879 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 13: in football. 880 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 8: Rocky, I need to know. 881 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 13: I don't know if you know this or not, but 882 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 13: I need your reaction to this. 883 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 8: If you did not. 884 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 13: Seventeen plays, forty yards, nine minutes, it ended in a punt, 885 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 13: and you see it, it's no points. 886 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 3: It seems impossible. 887 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 4: Have to go back and watch myself to believe it. 888 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 13: Yes, seventeen plays, nine minutes, forty yards and seventeen plays. 889 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 13: I don't know. I went to public school in Kentucky, 890 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 13: so I'm not great at math. 891 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 8: But I don't know how that happened. It doesn't make 892 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 8: any sense. 893 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 4: And it's two point three yards per play, by the way, 894 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 4: two point three yards people play somehow I get get 895 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 4: the first down? 896 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 7: I don't know. 897 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 10: Look, you want good running to do that kind of math. 898 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 2: They won ninety plays to UC's forty eight plays. 899 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. 900 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, look, that's kind of what you see. 901 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 13: They don't want to they don't want the disparity to 902 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 13: be like this. People, I think take it out of 903 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 13: context when I talk about this, but usually wants you 904 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 13: to spin your wheels like they want to keep everything 905 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 13: in front. They want to make you move down the 906 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 13: field two point three yards at a time, and they're 907 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 13: okay with it like that. That's how that defense is designed. 908 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 13: Because remember this defense was built by the Iowa Matt 909 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 13: Campbell and the Iowa States staff to slow down the 910 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 13: Big twelve offenses like a decade ago when you looked 911 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 13: and every score was like fifty three to forty eight, right, Like, 912 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 13: that's why this defense was designed. It's what it's designed 913 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 13: to do. It was just on the extreme on Saturday 914 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 13: because you see to just spun their tires and spun 915 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 13: their tires and spun their tires and really until that's 916 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 13: the you know, the touchdown. It shouldn't have happened. The 917 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 13: second one in two weeks fit three points. Like all 918 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 13: of those yards, all of those plays, and they had 919 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 13: three points. And that's what Tysonvite wants to. 920 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 14: Do to you. 921 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, Chad. 922 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 4: Before the season that the national conversation about quarterbacks included 923 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 4: names like cage Club Nick and arch Manning and Drew 924 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 4: Aller and now here we are halfway through October and 925 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 4: two names no one had on the radar. One. I'll 926 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 4: give some credit to my Irish CJ. Carr is playing 927 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,959 Speaker 4: out of his mind, but also Brendan Soorsby is being 928 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 4: talked about, you know from a national standpoint about how 929 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 4: well he's playing right now, describe that well. 930 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 13: First off, cars playing great, big hot tip to my 931 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 13: guy Mike Denbrock, who, if you remember, this fan base 932 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 13: was really hard on Mike Denbrock to the point that 933 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 13: I used to jokingly when he was walking off the 934 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 13: practice field, I do him just to get him a 935 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 13: sense of how well liked he was in the fan base, 936 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 13: just kims and he coached then Isman trophy winner and 937 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 13: for a national championship. He's pretty good. Yeah, Sorsby's what 938 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 13: to look for, right. He's got size, He's got a 939 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 13: big arm, he can move, he can run when you 940 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 13: need him to run, when you ask him to run. 941 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 13: Like all of the things that you look for in 942 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 13: a high level quarterback, Brendan Sorosby possesses those things. I 943 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 13: would say personally, I need to see a little bit 944 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 13: more from him when it comes to getting out of 945 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 13: a cold spell. Right, He'll get it like he is hot. 946 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 13: When he is hot, he is scorching hot, but it 947 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 13: feels like the minute that dips a little bit, you 948 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 13: get the second half versus Iowa State, you get the 949 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 13: second half versus Central Florida where I need to see 950 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 13: him be able to kick it back into gear a 951 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 13: little bit. But in terms of you know what you're 952 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 13: looking for in a quarterback, like he's out of Central casting. 953 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you what I asked Keegan last week 954 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 2: when he filled in for you, And it's for the 955 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 2: casual fan who from AFAR would be looking and saying 956 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 2: all right. Last year they beat Arizona State to get 957 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: the five and two, and I kind of got excited. 958 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 2: Then they lost their final five. What, in your opinion, 959 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 2: is different about this team this year that won't lead 960 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 2: to what happened last year. 961 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 8: A couple things. 962 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 13: One, if you go back and watch those five games 963 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 13: last year, their special teams was an unmitigated disaster at 964 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 13: the end of last season, just terrible, and that cost 965 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 13: them games. They couldn't cover, they couldn't kick, they couldn't punt, 966 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 13: they couldn't make field goals, like the whole operation fell apart. 967 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 13: They couldn't catch. Remember how many times they touch a 968 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 13: bouncing ball and all of a sudden the other teams 969 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 13: got it at their own five yard line and you're wondering, 970 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,919 Speaker 13: what the heck just happened. I think that is a big, 971 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 13: big part of it is their winning field position, and 972 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 13: they're winning some of that in between the u that 973 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,959 Speaker 13: in conference play is so important. The other one, they're 974 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 13: not turning it over. They have done a phenomenal job 975 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 13: taking care of the football, and I think that is 976 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 13: one of It's not maybe the biggest difference between this 977 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 13: year and last year is last year they would just 978 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 13: give it away inexplicably at times on plays it just 979 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 13: didn't make any sense at all. And next thing, you know, 980 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 13: it's seven points for the other team. Momentum shifts and 981 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 13: what was a three point game is all of a 982 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 13: sudden the seventeen point games and they are not doing that. 983 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 13: So a lot of it is just limiting the stuff 984 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 13: where they were shooting themselves in the foot. And when 985 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 13: you play clean football and you've got some really good 986 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 13: players on your team, it makes life a heck of 987 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 13: a lot easier. 988 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 4: Okay, and Chad to that point, and look, no one 989 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 4: knows this team better than you. 990 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 3: Is there any thing you can point. 991 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 4: To that Scott Saderfields specifically is doing where that he 992 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 4: wasn't doing last year that you can look to. Now, Wow, 993 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 4: it seems won five games. And this is because Sadderfield 994 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 4: is doing this better or different. 995 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 13: I don't know if anything sticks out. I think maybe 996 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 13: they're they're not having and and this could just be 997 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 13: a player's thing. It's not as much a Sadderfield thing. 998 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 13: They're not trying to get as cute on offense like that, 999 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 13: you're not seeing as much east west, you're not seeing 1000 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 13: you know, try and trick plays like. They don't feel 1001 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 13: at times like they're they're searching for something. They feel 1002 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 13: pretty confident and Scott's the play caller. They feel pretty 1003 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 13: confident in what they're dialing up right now. And I 1004 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 13: think a lot of that goes to a much better 1005 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 13: receiver corps, a better offensive line about the run and 1006 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 13: the pass game. 1007 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 5: Soresby with an extra year, Like, I think it's just. 1008 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 13: An overall machuration process that we've seen from last year 1009 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 13: to this year, and Saderfield gets the credit for that. 1010 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 13: So I don't know if it's anything drastic, but I 1011 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 13: think it's definitely visible watching the program take a step 1012 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 13: where you're not scratching your head and going what was that? 1013 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 13: Why was that? I don't understand they like it doesn't 1014 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 13: feel it is confusing the right word lands like last year, 1015 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 13: a lot of the stuff they did felt confusing, and 1016 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 13: they don't see that this year. 1017 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 2: Last question look ahead to Saturday night, still Water. Oklahoma 1018 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 2: State fired Mike gun to you a while back. They're 1019 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 2: a mess. What if anything is there to be wary 1020 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,919 Speaker 2: of with Oklahoma State Saturday night? It is their homecoming 1021 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 2: and under the lights Saturday night. 1022 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 8: I guess maybe that's it. 1023 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 5: This is a bad football team. 1024 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 13: They're just they're not they they they're bad on offense. 1025 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 13: They they don't gain a lot of yards, they're bad 1026 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 13: on defense. They don't tackle real well. Sure, maybe you 1027 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 13: could look at this and say and like, is it 1028 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 13: a trap game? I think Central Florida was the trap game. 1029 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 13: You're coming off Kansas and Iowa State. 1030 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 3: Yep, you know. 1031 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 13: It's at home. It was kind of a sleepy noon game. 1032 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 13: Like I don't hate the noon games as much as 1033 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 13: most people, but I think in back to back weekends, 1034 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 13: that second one doesn't have maybe the juice that the 1035 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 13: first one does. And I thought that was the trap 1036 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 13: team Cincinnati got through that. I don't think Oklahoma State's 1037 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 13: going to catch this team sleeping. I would, I mean homecoming, 1038 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 13: the energy. Maybe it's close early, but I think there's 1039 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 13: just a pretty vast talent disparity between these two teams, 1040 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 13: and I would be surprised if you're looking at a 1041 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 13: close team in the third quarter. 1042 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 2: All right, tell everybody what they can find. A Bearcat 1043 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 2: Journal dot Com. 1044 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 13: Like great stuff. We've got all the Oklahoma States stuff 1045 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 13: up getting ready for that game on Saturday. Got a 1046 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 13: bunch of information on uh Chilyn Haynes and his injury 1047 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 13: and what that means for the basketball team. I'm getting 1048 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 13: ready on Friday to head up to ann Arbor to 1049 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 13: watch the Bearcats take on the Michigan Wolverines and exhibition 1050 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 13: basketball action. So basketball season is right around the corner. 1051 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 13: You can get all of that and more in the 1052 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 13: best place, the best corner of the Internet for UC 1053 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 13: Bearcat coverage. 1054 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 3: You're the man. Appreciate the insight. We'll talk next week. 1055 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,280 Speaker 13: All right, Thanks, Ellens, have a great one. 1056 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 3: Thanks Chad. There you go, Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal dot Com. 1057 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 3: We'll take a time out, come back. 1058 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 2: Take a look at the injury report for tomorrow night, 1059 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 2: and talk a little Logan Wilson and what's up along 1060 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 2: those lines. As we roll on from Long Next to 1061 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 2: in Richwood the Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon 1062 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 2: Roundtable Show. It's brought to you in part by Hawksworth 1063 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 2: Blood Centers, Hawxsword Donor Save Lives Close to Home, Who 1064 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 2: will you Save? And all of this presented each and 1065 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 2: every week by Postman Law seven hundred WLW seven three 1066 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW Round Table Show, Long Next rich with 1067 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,240 Speaker 2: by the way, eight o'clock. We are thirty seven minutes 1068 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 2: away from our drawing. If you're in house and don't 1069 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 2: have a ticket, ask your server for a ticket, sign 1070 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 2: your name on the back and give it back to her. 1071 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 2: We'll draw twice at eight o'clock. Got to be here 1072 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 2: to win. We've got tickets for the game tomorrow night. 1073 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 2: We have a Sean Volker Bengal Tiger print. Two drawings 1074 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 2: coming up eight o'clock. Got to be here to win. 1075 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 2: Ask your server for a ticket. All you need is 1076 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 2: your name on the back, put your name on the back. 1077 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,919 Speaker 2: Be here at eight o'clock. When I call your name, 1078 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 2: you will win. Logan Wilson Rock has been, for lack 1079 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,240 Speaker 2: of a better word, bened played twelve play twelve snaps 1080 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 2: on Sunday one in the second half, and the Bengals 1081 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 2: are rolling with a rookie duo of Dimitris Knight. 1082 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 3: Junior and Barry Carter. 1083 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 2: Bret Carter's got the dot on the back of his 1084 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 2: helmet played all the snaps on Sunday. The reasoning offered 1085 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 2: has left Logan even. He said he's not quite sure 1086 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 2: he understands the reasoning. He's heard they're looking for a spark. 1087 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 2: Zach has said, it's more about the ascension of Barrett Carter, 1088 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 2: he's playing well, more than about Logan Wilson doing anything. 1089 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 3: I guess. 1090 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 2: My look from Afar has been Has Logan Wilson been 1091 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 2: at his best? No, there's a couple of times he 1092 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 2: looks he looks kind of clunky running. Sometimes it looks 1093 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,240 Speaker 2: like he's not as fast. He almost looks like Frankenstein comes. 1094 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes he just doesn't seem to move as well as 1095 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,720 Speaker 2: he did on occasion. But I haven't seen him look awful, 1096 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 2: and I haven't seen Barrett Carter look amazing, So it 1097 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 2: seems like this has just been a full blown switch 1098 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 2: him passing of the torch, no rotation. We won't split him, 1099 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 2: we won't let him learn from Logan splitting drives. It's 1100 00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 2: just boom, it's done, which seems kind of dramatically quick 1101 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 2: and weird. 1102 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 3: It doesn't seem earned right. 1103 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 4: And again, like you go from last week sixty one 1104 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 4: plays to to Logan Wilson's twelve, Bereck Carter's wearing the 1105 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 4: green dot and getting the signals in and it seems 1106 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 4: like an awful lot to happen a little bit. And 1107 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,800 Speaker 4: if I'm Logan Wilson saying, I mean, last time I checked, 1108 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 4: I think were I wasn't the only hole in this 1109 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 4: defense has been pretty bad, so of all the position 1110 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 4: groups to really attack. I mean, obviously the Bengals felt 1111 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 4: strongly that was an area to get better because they 1112 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 4: drafted two guys, but seems like there's some other areas 1113 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 4: on the defense. I would start experimenting with players before 1114 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,720 Speaker 4: the linebacking. 1115 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,439 Speaker 2: And to me and I get the a young guy 1116 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,240 Speaker 2: in order to get better need snaps. 1117 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 3: I get that. 1118 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 2: I also it almost feels like something you would get 1119 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 2: from a team that was out of it, whose season 1120 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 2: was over, and you said, hey, veteran, you've got a 1121 00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 2: role on our team, but we need to get a 1122 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 2: look at these young guys. The only way they get 1123 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,240 Speaker 2: better is if they get reps. This is a team 1124 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 2: that is in it and was so desperate to stay 1125 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 2: in it they traded for another starting quarterback. 1126 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 3: So that's the thing. 1127 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 2: And maybe that goes back to the messaging and Logan 1128 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 2: saying he's not quite sure what to make of what 1129 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 2: the coach is saying because it just doesn't seem to 1130 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 2: jibe with me on the scale of well, if you're 1131 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 2: really in it and competing and trying to hang in 1132 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,959 Speaker 2: this thing. Are you handing the linebacker job to two 1133 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 2: rookies and saying figure it out as you go? And 1134 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 2: as we point as Trags pointed out earlier, that rushed 1135 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 2: by Josh Jacobs right up the middle, neither of those 1136 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 2: linebackers had any idea what was happening on that play none, 1137 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 2: And he ran up the middle for the touchdown. 1138 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 4: Wide open a gap, and he just went over to 1139 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,959 Speaker 4: the left for some reason. 1140 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 2: And so I just it doesn't the complaint of Lou 1141 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 2: was Lou leaned on veterans more and was hesitant to 1142 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: play younger guys and rookies. And I get the idea 1143 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 2: of playing young guys, but man at crunch time, especially 1144 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 2: against the Pittsburgh Steelers team that Logan has played twice. 1145 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 3: A year for his entire career. 1146 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers veteran quarter If I'm Aaron Rodgers, I'm looking 1147 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 2: on tape this week and I'm going give me those 1148 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 2: two rookie linebackers at all. 1149 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 3: I'll do a little bit of exposing on Thursday night. 1150 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I mean you bring up a great 1151 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 4: point in that. Yeah, it's conflicting message, because that is 1152 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 4: certainly something you would see on a team that was 1153 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 4: out of it. Okay, let's start thinking about next year 1154 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 4: and yeah, thinking about our draft and all that sort 1155 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 4: of thing. Even Logan would understand it at that point. Ye, 1156 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 4: one hundred percent exactly what I was gonna say. He 1157 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 4: would get it. Okay, here we are, we're moving to 1158 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 4: a direent direction. But yeah, of all the position groups 1159 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 4: go all in on two rookies just doesn't seem that warranted. 1160 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 2: And when you've got two on the field at the 1161 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 2: same time, there's no opportunity for you know how it 1162 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 2: is if you're a veteran, maybe it's just a glance 1163 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 2: or a hand signal or some type of communication of 1164 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 2: the veteran, maybe a movement, a moving a rookie up 1165 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 2: or moving him back. 1166 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 3: Now you've got two rookies out there like at times, 1167 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 3: probably looking at each other like I don't know what 1168 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 3: do you think? I don't know what do you think? 1169 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1170 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 4: I mean in my younger years with a Titan, it was, 1171 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 4: you know, and I started, you know, making plays and stuff. 1172 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 4: It was more like, you know, there's certain packages you have, 1173 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 4: like a you know, a four linebacker package or a 1174 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 4: two you know that sort of thing. And let's give 1175 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 4: bart Carter a certain package where he we're gonna he's 1176 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 4: gonna get on the field in passing situations, right, and 1177 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 4: he's gonna get twenty to twenty five plays kind of thing, 1178 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 4: not sixty one and have them do everything. 1179 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 2: That's a great point because then you compartmentalize the learning components. 1180 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 2: Let him let really well and that becomes good at it. 1181 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 2: Then he becomes confident and comfortable with it. You say, 1182 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna feed you a little bit more 1183 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 2: of this. 1184 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,919 Speaker 4: I mean, I can't imagine being a rookie who wasn't 1185 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 4: a day one starter, you know, first round, number one 1186 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 4: overall pick kind of thing in your first start. Now 1187 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 4: you're also calling the defensive signals and there's a lot 1188 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 4: and that that's how I've done that job. That's hard, 1189 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 4: that communication and you're getting guys lined up. I mean, 1190 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 4: he's not exactly sure where he's supposed to line up, 1191 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 4: let alone how to get other guys up where they're 1192 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 4: supposed to be. 1193 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that was good. That was a good segment. Wow, 1194 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 3: how about that. 1195 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 2: Let's take a look at our postman law injury report 1196 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 2: delivered by Postman Law Injured. Postman delivers Trey Hendrickson questionable 1197 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 2: Tomorrow night. Tracks seem to think there's a chance he 1198 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 2: will play, as he's been dealing with the hip. 1199 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 3: A quick turnaround obviously. 1200 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 2: Micah Sicky, placed on the reserve injured list today, will 1201 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 2: miss at least four games. Tanner Hudson is out with 1202 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 2: a concussion. Dylan Fairchild appears to be good to go. 1203 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart's gonna play and play a lot Tomorrow Night, questionable, Lucas. 1204 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 3: Patrick and Charlie Jones. 1205 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 2: That's our Postman Law injury report delivered by Postman Law 1206 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 2: Injured call eight four to four Postman all right, perfectly 1207 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 2: timed to hit the bottom of the hour. Break transition 1208 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 2: into some high school football Great Shoemaker Tri State Football 1209 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 2: dot Com. As we continue, It's the Roundtable Show, Long 1210 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 2: Next in Richwood, presented by Postman Law seven hundred WLW 1211 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 2: seven thirty six seven hundred ALW. You are tuned to 1212 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Tax Resolution Power by Tope Sheldon Roundtable Show. 1213 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,439 Speaker 2: It's presented by Postman Law. We do it each week 1214 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 2: this month at Long Necks in rich Wood. Thanks for 1215 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 2: hanging out with us tonight. We've got a drawing coming 1216 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 2: up at eight o'clock tonight. 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Always a pleasure to 1227 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 2: welcome in, Greg Shoemaker, How are. 1228 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 8: You, wonderful guys that you doing on this evening? 1229 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 2: We are, well, we are ready to go, and let's 1230 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 2: jump right into week nine and we start with those 1231 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 2: Anderson Raptors against the Winton Woods Warriors. And I know 1232 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 2: Anderson just lights up the scoreboard offensively and Winton Woods 1233 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 2: does not allow that. I can't wait to see, Yeah 1234 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 2: this plays out? 1235 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Lancerew right on there. You're talking about 1236 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 8: two teams that have the best parts of them are 1237 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,439 Speaker 8: the opposite parts of each other. When you go into 1238 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 8: this game, Anderson's already clinched a top four playoff spot 1239 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 8: to earn a buy in Division two Region eight, and 1240 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 8: Winton Woods has already clinched a spot and currently sits 1241 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 8: fifth in the Division one Region four computer ratings. What 1242 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 8: does that mean both teams? Right now? Anderson gets a win, 1243 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 8: they're in for probably the number one seed overall in 1244 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 8: Division to Region eight and went Woods to get that 1245 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 8: first round by and they could actually use this with 1246 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 8: that win against winton Woods. Now went Woods has won 1247 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 8: six in a row. Their defense has only given up 1248 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 8: nine point six points per game, and it's not allowed 1249 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 8: more seventeen in the contest all season. 1250 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 14: And they played some good teams, you know. I mean, 1251 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 14: obviously they both have the ECC, they got that eight 1252 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 14: game schedule, but even in the to the non conference schedule, 1253 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 14: Wentwoods plays Springfield, which is a very very good team, 1254 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:09,479 Speaker 14: So looking forward to that. Now, Anderson's averaging fifty one 1255 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 14: point two points. 1256 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 8: Per game and has a forty point average margin of victory. 1257 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 8: But here's the thing. Their defense is only allowing eleven 1258 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 8: point two points per game. They've held seven of their 1259 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 8: eight victims to sixteen points. Are fewer this is a 1260 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 8: game where Wentwoods is going to have to run the football. 1261 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 8: Their leading rusher is their quarterback bry Sean Brown, and 1262 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 8: they've only had He's only ran for like three hundred 1263 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 8: and sixty yards on the air. They don't have a 1264 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 8: running back with over three hundred yards a game rushing. 1265 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 8: So if Wentwoods wants to keep this game close, they're 1266 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 8: gonna have to keep the ball on offense and run 1267 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 8: the football. You know, if Anderson gets out into a 1268 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 8: big lead in this game, it's gonna be hard for 1269 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 8: Wentwood's catch up Anderson. Quarterback Owen scaff Is thrown for 1270 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 8: twenty six hundred yards and twenty five touchdowns over three 1271 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 8: hundred yards a game through eight game in his first 1272 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 8: year as a starter, been fantastic. And the one thing 1273 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 8: that worries me about Winwoods in this game is they 1274 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 8: don't have a lot of turnovers. Much like a lot 1275 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 8: of the other Wentwoods teams in years past, this team 1276 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 8: hasn't created turnovers like the other one, and that worries me. 1277 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 8: In a game where Intertony can score so many points, 1278 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 8: they have to come up with turnovers if Winwoods wants 1279 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 8: to win. 1280 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 4: All right, greg a rivalry matchup here, Alter sitting at 1281 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 4: six and two at number fourteen Baden the Rams. How 1282 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 4: you seeing this one? 1283 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, so last week we talked a little bit about Alter. 1284 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 8: They beat mcnick twelve to nothing last week and then 1285 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 8: but they got they got a hard one tonight or 1286 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 8: Friday night against Baiden. Baden's won the last six GCL 1287 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 8: coed co ed titles outright. It's looking for a share 1288 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 8: of at least their eighth consecutive GCL Small School crown, 1289 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,880 Speaker 8: which is amazing because before that Alter was the king 1290 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 8: of the road. But now it's it's which to Bayden. 1291 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 8: You know, Beingan's already Clint, We're talking a lot of 1292 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 8: playoffs tonight. Beingan's already clinched a playoff spot and currently 1293 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,439 Speaker 8: sits a division or a number three UH in the 1294 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 8: Division three Region twelve computer rate rankings. That is looking 1295 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 8: to build on that seed and get that solidify that 1296 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 8: first round by Alter has clinched the spot, but they 1297 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 8: control their own destiny. They haven't solidified a top four 1298 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 8: spot or anything like that, and they're sitting at number 1299 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 8: five in the Division three Region twelve computer rankings right now. 1300 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 8: So a big game for the winner. The winner is 1301 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 8: probably going to get a first round by in this one. 1302 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 8: Bayten averages forty four point six points per game and 1303 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 8: has an average margin of victory a thirty one point 1304 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 8: four points per game they have, but they only have 1305 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 8: one win. A gets a winning team or a team 1306 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 8: that's above five hundred currently, So uh, it's an interesting 1307 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 8: situation right here. Last week Alter beat Mick Nick, who's 1308 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 8: sitting at five and three. They they played those kind 1309 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 8: of teams all year so and Alders one four in 1310 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,120 Speaker 8: a row. They're giving up just ten points a game 1311 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 8: or giving up just ten in that span, and they've 1312 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 8: just given up eighty four points on the season. So 1313 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 8: someone's got to give in this one. But at home, 1314 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 8: bading in that new stadium. I look for them to 1315 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,479 Speaker 8: come out victorious in this one. And it's another great 1316 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 8: season for the Rams. This is gonna be good because 1317 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 8: both these teams in the playoffs, along with a couple 1318 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 8: of other teams there in Region twelve. It's gonna be 1319 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 8: a fun playoffs for sure. And it's just I mean, 1320 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 8: it's just gonna get better for sure. 1321 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 3: All Right. 1322 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 2: South Dearborn and Lawrenceburg like two ships passing in the night. 1323 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 2: They're going in much different directions at this stage of 1324 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 2: the season, and. 1325 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 8: I love this. We're going to talk a little bit 1326 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,919 Speaker 8: about some Indiana football tonight. And the thing about these 1327 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:52,479 Speaker 8: two teams is Lawrenceburg has lost the opener to East 1328 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 8: Central the last nine years. Seven times in those last 1329 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 8: nine years they have gone on to go win the 1330 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 8: next eight games to win after regular season. I look 1331 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 8: for the same thing here, So I mean, it's just 1332 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 8: crazy that whole streak. Lawrence but a great team, but 1333 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 8: just can't get over that humpher. It's the bigger East 1334 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 8: Central team in week one. Lawrenceburg gets averaging fifty point 1335 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 8: one points per game, has scored forty or more and 1336 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 8: all seven of their current during their current winning streak 1337 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 8: of seven games. And Krew Gilmore, their sophomore quarterback, has 1338 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 8: thrown for twenty touchdowns, run for six, and he's also 1339 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 8: you know, he's thrown for thirteen. He's got like two 1340 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 8: thousand yards of total offense already through the eight games 1341 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 8: ten years. Keaton McGrath and Isaiah Williams, they both have 1342 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 8: combined for twenty six touchdowns on their offense, and their defense, 1343 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 8: which has been fantastic, is holding a foes to six 1344 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 8: points six points per game during their current winning streak. 1345 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 8: So this is a very good team. Now stop Dearborn. 1346 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 8: They've lost three in a row after starting four and one, 1347 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 8: and they're looking to get back on track in the 1348 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 8: playoffs because last week they lost to Rushville twenty six 1349 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 8: to twenty one at Rushville and after this game against Lawrenceburg, 1350 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 8: they have Rushville again in Week one of the playoffs. 1351 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 8: So it's a very young rush South Yearbourn team. They 1352 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 8: start a freshman a quarterback, and they do have a 1353 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 8: star and Brady Ballerr senior who's going to Louisville, but 1354 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 8: I don't know if he's enough to take on everything 1355 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 8: that Lawrenceburg has to offer in this one. 1356 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,919 Speaker 4: All right, Greg MVC showdown here North College Hill at 1357 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 4: CCD since ninth Country Day now North College Hill. If 1358 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 4: I recall, they haven't been very good in recent years, 1359 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 4: but they're having a heck of a season at seven 1360 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 4: to one, right. 1361 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 8: They sure are, and seven wins is the most in 1362 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 8: school at the school since twenty eleven. They haven't finished 1363 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 8: above five hundred since twenty twelve. But they run a 1364 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,800 Speaker 8: great run. Like you said, Rocky, they they finished the 1365 01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 8: twenty ten in two thousand and nine seasons to know 1366 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 8: in the regular season before losing in the first round 1367 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 8: of the playoffs, so it's been a while. That was 1368 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 8: the Bruce Barenza year. Show Nichols, the athletic director over there, 1369 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 8: they have some great runs. Greg Conwell has done a 1370 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 8: great job of getting this team back to where it 1371 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 8: needs to be in this program, back to where it 1372 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 8: needs to be. They see they're running back Cornelia Spiller, 1373 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 8: He's a junior. He's got one thousand yards and nine 1374 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,679 Speaker 8: touchdowns on ninety carries to the team's first six wins 1375 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 8: him played the last two weeks, so that'll be interesting 1376 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 8: there and then Cincinnati Country Day. Their junior quarterback Levi 1377 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 8: Guttman has thrown for fifteen and thirty nine yards. He 1378 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,839 Speaker 8: leaves the team with six hundred and sixty seven yards rushing, 1379 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 8: has eight touchdowns on the ground and nineteen touchdowns through 1380 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 8: the air with no interception. So they they're they're lighting 1381 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 8: it up. And their defense has been great too. They've 1382 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 8: held six of their last eight opponents to or six 1383 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 8: of their eight opponents to eight points or fewer this season, 1384 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 8: but they did give up fifty six and Week two 1385 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 8: and I loss to Blanchester. So I think this could 1386 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 8: be a high scoring game because of so many athletes 1387 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 8: out there, and in a small school game like this, 1388 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 8: when those guys get into opening open field, they really 1389 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 8: show their athleticism off. And I do think this could 1390 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 8: be a game where you can see both teams hitting 1391 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 8: the thirty five to forty marks easily. It could be 1392 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 8: a long, long, but fun night at Cincinnati Country Day. 1393 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 8: This is this is good. I'm glad we're going to 1394 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 8: talk about small schools like this because we rarely do. 1395 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 8: But this is a fun game. This is going to 1396 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:31,840 Speaker 8: be a good one for sure. 1397 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent, all right, look ahead and give us a 1398 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 2: preview of the show on Friday night. 1399 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 13: Yeah. 1400 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 8: So, Actually, we'll have Cincinnati Country Day head coach Dennis 1401 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 8: Coyle previewing this game against North College Hill. We also 1402 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,759 Speaker 8: have Lawrenceburg head coach Ryan kniggat previewing his game against 1403 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 8: South Dearborn. Very very good stuff there in Dixie Heights 1404 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 8: head coach Patrick Burk's going to preview his game against 1405 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 8: Boone County. Dixee Heights has won three of their last 1406 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 8: four Boone County four and three for a first time 1407 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 8: in a long time too, so yeah, the pregame show 1408 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 8: is gonna be awesome, and then we got Saint Xavier 1409 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 8: and Savings and then we'll be back on supuan alv 1410 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,719 Speaker 8: after the Saint Xavier game of Fox Sports thirteen sixty 1411 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:19,800 Speaker 8: and ESPN fifteen thirty. We'll have highlights and coach interviews 1412 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 8: all throughout the night up until eleven o'clock on those 1413 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 8: two channels. For sure, it'll be great. And then Tristate 1414 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,680 Speaker 8: Football dot Com that's where you can get all the 1415 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 8: other coverage on Friday night. It's it's going to be 1416 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,719 Speaker 8: another great night. And again computer rankings and everybody wrestling 1417 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 8: for jockeying or physician and where they stand for the playoffs. 1418 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:40,679 Speaker 5: For sure. 1419 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 2: Right now excellent, can't wait. Appreciate you making time. Appreciate 1420 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 2: you making Wednesday night happen. Can I I suppose I 1421 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 2: can't read your text to me live on the air 1422 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 2: that you sent me when I reminded you earlier today, 1423 01:10:53,960 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 2: correctiate today, just a reminder. There might have been a 1424 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:05,759 Speaker 2: word like, oh man, I forgot you. 1425 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 3: You were the man. 1426 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 8: I was on my way to Green Bay when you 1427 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 8: sit that out and the weekend got a little behind me. 1428 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 8: By the way, lambeau Field. Anybody hadn't been a bucket 1429 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 8: list place to go. Amazing trip this past week and 1430 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:21,559 Speaker 8: for sure got. 1431 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 2: Great stuff is always Thanks for doing it, Greg. We'll 1432 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:25,599 Speaker 2: talk next week. 1433 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,320 Speaker 8: All right, guys, have a great weekend. 1434 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 2: All right, you as Craig. All right, Uh, let's do this. 1435 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,200 Speaker 2: Take a time out, by the way, Steve CAMMANINNI in 1436 01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 2: the house. Yeh, resident funny man, host, MC writer, all 1437 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 2: around good guy and comedian. It's big when Steve Kammaniti 1438 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 2: comes by and says hi so hi to him as well, 1439 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 2: take a. 1440 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 3: Time out of come back? 1441 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 2: How about uh Dan Klaskin's a little fantasy football next. 1442 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 3: I'll be all right. 1443 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,440 Speaker 4: I think you're doing so good for once. 1444 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 3: It was for a while. 1445 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 2: I can now now I can do the spot right, 1446 01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 2: and I can't do the rest of the show. 1447 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 3: Can't get in and out of a break. 1448 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 2: See Cincinnati Tax Resolution Power by Tope Sheldon, Round Table Show. 1449 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 2: We're at Long Necks in rich Wood presented by Postman 1450 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,760 Speaker 2: Law seven hundred WLW. 1451 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 3: Right back at it from Long Next in rich Wood. 1452 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,599 Speaker 2: The round Table Show. Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope 1453 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 2: Sheldon round Table Show presented by Postman Law Lance Pacallister 1454 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 2: Rocky Boyman. Each week at this time we talk with 1455 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 2: our guy. We talk fantasy football. He's the host of 1456 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 2: Fantastics Insider Football Sirius XM Fantasy. 1457 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 3: We welcome in, Dan Glaskins. How we doing. 1458 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 5: Hey, what's up? Telling happy hum? 1459 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 3: Same to you. 1460 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 2: We're ready to get to it and Uh. One thing 1461 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,639 Speaker 2: to consider would be some trade targets. Give us maybe 1462 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 2: a short list of some names to consider when we're 1463 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:51,879 Speaker 2: talking and thinking trades. 1464 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,559 Speaker 10: Yeah, Lance, you know how I like to strike a deal. 1465 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:56,800 Speaker 9: And I always say value is. 1466 01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 12: In the II tob holder Bud. 1467 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 9: If you aren't targeting some players, trying to maybe buy 1468 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 9: low or buy before it gets two highs. A great idea. 1469 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 3: Here's a few. 1470 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 9: I'm like, we'll start a quarterback. Jackson Dark the rookie 1471 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 9: really catching my eye. 1472 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 10: I love that. 1473 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,719 Speaker 9: Rushing for the big ability, big playability. I should say 1474 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,559 Speaker 9: that puts up some big scoring weeks. 1475 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 3: I don't. 1476 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 9: I mean, I have a tough time finding ten quarterbacks. 1477 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 9: I'd rather have the rest of the season than tan 1478 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 9: in terms of trade targets. At running by Kenneth Walker, 1479 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 9: the third A guy I love coming in the seasons 1480 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,000 Speaker 9: off a little bit of a slowest start. Fantasy manager's 1481 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,559 Speaker 9: getting a little frustrated with him sharing that backfield with 1482 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 9: Jack Sharbonay, But. 1483 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 10: The numbers don't lie. 1484 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,120 Speaker 9: Kennth Walker's the better running back of forty two success 1485 01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,680 Speaker 9: rate percent for him to according the PFF thirty two 1486 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 9: percent success rate for Sharbonay on history, I expect them 1487 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 9: to be saving him for a fresh round down the dress. 1488 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 9: I like me some step on Diggs. He only went 1489 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 9: three catches for twenty eight yards last week. 1490 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 10: A couple others I think right now at the time 1491 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 10: to buy him on the chief as a big finish ahead. 1492 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 10: And I always like finding injured players, and one of 1493 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 10: my favorite targets there is brought Bowers the waiters tight 1494 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,599 Speaker 10: and I think he's going to miss a couple more 1495 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,439 Speaker 10: weeks to get through that vibe. But when he comes 1496 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,920 Speaker 10: back to healthy Lams, this is a player that can 1497 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 10: be had for pennies on the dollar from desperate managers 1498 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 10: right now that could be a league winner at tight end. 1499 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 4: Dan. When it comes to injuries, I feel like there's 1500 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,360 Speaker 4: a seam every week. A week or so ago was quarterbacks. 1501 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 4: This week gets receivers, and every good receiver is hurt describe, Please. 1502 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,360 Speaker 10: No doubt about a Rocky. That list is growing, and 1503 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 10: the biggest name on it this week is Puka Nakua. 1504 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,000 Speaker 10: I was talking to Lance here last week about how 1505 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,799 Speaker 10: he was one of my early season heroes. His historic season. 1506 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 10: He was on pace for It's all side railed. Now 1507 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 10: he's dealing with an ankle issue. I think it's a 1508 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 10: multiple week issues. Certainly don't expect him playing Week seven. 1509 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,559 Speaker 10: Amiki Kabuka one of my favorite rookie players. We also 1510 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:49,280 Speaker 10: talked about that much. 1511 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 5: I like him last week. 1512 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,640 Speaker 10: I jinked him as well because he gets suffered a 1513 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,280 Speaker 10: hamstring injury, joining Bucky Irving, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin. We'll 1514 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 10: see how any of them track this week. Hopefully the 1515 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,519 Speaker 10: Bucks can get at least one of those playmakers back soon, 1516 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 10: but don't hold your breath. Marvin Harrison Junior dealing with concussion, 1517 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,479 Speaker 10: Garrett Wilson with the knee issue, DJ Moore with the groin, 1518 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 10: help me Realley with the hamstring, Ricky piersal the need. 1519 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,599 Speaker 10: These are just five other whiteouts who's Week seven status 1520 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 10: remains un doubted. As I say there and talk to 1521 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 10: you other night, better news at tight end George Kittle 1522 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 10: was a limited participant today the Niners. If he doesn't 1523 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 10: suffer a setback, expect him to return back to action 1524 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 10: this week. That's a huge boost for what could be 1525 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,799 Speaker 10: one of the better tight ends in fantasy when healthy. 1526 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,479 Speaker 10: I talked already and brought back Frock Powers and his knee. 1527 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,280 Speaker 10: I don't expect him back for a few weeks. We 1528 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 10: got Dalton and Kab with concussions and Kyler Murray with 1529 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,320 Speaker 10: a foot in Rock Purty with a toe, both limited 1530 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,920 Speaker 10: participants today. We'll see if either can play week gave both. 1531 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,320 Speaker 10: They're backup playing pretty good football right now, so I 1532 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 10: don't know if Tho'll be forced back in there. 1533 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 13: Fellas. 1534 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to that lineup advice. Roll out 1535 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,559 Speaker 2: some studs, duds and sleepers for this week. 1536 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,720 Speaker 10: Oh man, I love I love some studs this week, 1537 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 10: and I definitely have some duds. Drake May is my 1538 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 10: stud quarterback. We knew he had rushing upside, and he's 1539 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,639 Speaker 10: getting about twenty three yards per game on the ground, 1540 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,040 Speaker 10: but it's been what he's done through the air lately 1541 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,679 Speaker 10: that has fantasy manager really and taking notice. 1542 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 5: He now has. 1543 01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,680 Speaker 10: Multiple touchdowns in four of his last five games, and 1544 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 10: he's posting an impressive nine to one TV'D interception ratio. 1545 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,160 Speaker 10: Roshie Rice another player a Lance I think's coming back 1546 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 10: for a big week this week. Six games suspension has 1547 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,479 Speaker 10: been lifted. He's going to have a prominent role in 1548 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,519 Speaker 10: this Chiefs offense, and I think he gets to face 1549 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 10: this Raiders team. 1550 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 5: They give him the six. 1551 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 10: Most fantasy points. I'm pretty polish. I got him his 1552 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,160 Speaker 10: wide receiver eight this week. Let's get him back in 1553 01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,160 Speaker 10: the lineup on the dud side. Alvin Kamara. He hasn't 1554 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 10: scored since Week one. He's only hit fifteen PPR points 1555 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 10: once all season, and he hasn't even gotten to double 1556 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,640 Speaker 10: ditch PPR points in two of his last four. So 1557 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,760 Speaker 10: I'm sitting him. He's outside my top twenty five. 1558 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 12: He's probably going to. 1559 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 10: Have to be in some people's minus. Not a great 1560 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,880 Speaker 10: option to Kobe Myers, also on the bench, below ten 1561 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,880 Speaker 10: PPR points in each of his last four games. He 1562 01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 10: started the season with pretty high percentage targets shares. That's 1563 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 10: been below twenty percent now in three of his last four. 1564 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,040 Speaker 10: And I'll leave you fellas with some sleepers, and these 1565 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 10: are little deeper sleepers. But this time of year, people 1566 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,679 Speaker 10: need deep sleepers, and ty. 1567 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,559 Speaker 5: J Spears checks that box for me. 1568 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,639 Speaker 10: This week, heel's not Tony Pollard thirty six to twenty 1569 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 10: six against the Raiders running twice as many routes a 1570 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 10: week six. I expect them to be playing from behind again. 1571 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 10: The coaching change. I think he's RB three flexworthy this week, 1572 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,479 Speaker 10: and we'll leave it with the hometown kid, Michael Mayor 1573 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 10: the cuffcat grab looking really good last week, finding the 1574 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:30,880 Speaker 10: end and that was good to see. I think he's 1575 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,679 Speaker 10: going to do it again this week versus the Chiefs 1576 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 10: with broad powers sideline, he saw a thirty two percent 1577 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 10: target chair last week. He ran a route on eighty 1578 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 10: percent of the pass play. I got him this tight 1579 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 10: end twelve this week. I think you can sneak him 1580 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,400 Speaker 10: in your Week seven lineups. 1581 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 2: All right, final point, very important event, very cool event 1582 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 2: coming up just around the corner. 1583 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,559 Speaker 3: Tell us about the DAV five K. 1584 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 10: Yes, sir, I appreciate that. To join us for the 1585 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 10: DAV five K. It's Saturday, November eighth. It's at the 1586 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 10: Banks in Cincinnati as a raise, as a walk at 1587 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 10: the role. It's all honoring America's veterans, And you know Lance, 1588 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,640 Speaker 10: I work at DAV been there ten years and we 1589 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 10: do a lot of great things. We help a million 1590 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,120 Speaker 10: veterans a year in life changing way through our pre 1591 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 10: programs and services, and we rely on Think Fight to 1592 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,960 Speaker 10: five K, the Nations, a lot of other general public 1593 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 10: support to make it happen. So if you want to 1594 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 10: help thank veterans, you want to be involved, we have 1595 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,920 Speaker 10: a virtual way to do it from anywhere you're at. 1596 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,800 Speaker 10: You can join us at the banks. You just got 1597 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 10: to visit DAV five k dot org to learn more. 1598 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,639 Speaker 10: We need help with volunteers, we need sponsors or whatever 1599 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 10: you're interested in. It's a great way to get involved. 1600 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, always appreciate the time and insight. Thank you, and 1601 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,720 Speaker 2: we'll talk next Thursday night. 1602 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, back on Thursdays. Shout out to my wife Kelly. 1603 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 10: It's her birthday, but she's got I'd be better spending 1604 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,639 Speaker 10: it with you guys talking fantasy here, so we'll get. 1605 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 3: Hurt the happy birthday to her. 1606 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 10: Yes, yes, but we'll see you guys next Thursday. 1607 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 5: Enjoy the game. 1608 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 3: Sounds good? Thanks Dan. Thanks Dan. All right, there you 1609 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 3: go our fantasy football fix. 1610 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,200 Speaker 2: Let's take a look before we check news at the 1611 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,599 Speaker 2: AFC North, brought to you by brand Stetners kangaroof your 1612 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,720 Speaker 2: hometown roofing, guttering and siding experts covering Cincinnati Holmes for 1613 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 2: over twenty five years. 1614 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,720 Speaker 3: Visit gokanga dot net. They hop to it. 1615 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,799 Speaker 2: In a battle of one in five teams, the Miami 1616 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,559 Speaker 2: Dolphins take on the Cleveland Browns. The Ravens are on 1617 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,920 Speaker 2: the by at one and five. Will that be time 1618 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 2: for Lamar Jackson to heal that hamstring? The Ravens have 1619 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 2: scored one hundred and forty four points, They've allowed one 1620 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,960 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety four points. They have dropped four consecutive games. 1621 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 2: That is our look around the AFC North. All right, 1622 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,519 Speaker 2: we'll take a time out during our break, we'll do 1623 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,800 Speaker 2: our giveaway. If you do not have a ticket, you 1624 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:50,000 Speaker 2: have like one minute. Servers are have the tickets if 1625 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,879 Speaker 2: you have signed it and dropped it in their possession, 1626 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,640 Speaker 2: we will draw when we take our break. Gotta be 1627 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,000 Speaker 2: here to win two cool prizes to give away. Eight 1628 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,479 Speaker 2: o'clock A load up. We'll hear from a former Bengal, 1629 01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 2: Tim McGhee, a little bit from Joe Flacco. What Matt 1630 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,960 Speaker 2: Williamson told Rocky earlier. Today, we'll do the college Football 1631 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 2: Weekend preview and travel Rockies Road Wow. All of that 1632 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,559 Speaker 2: in the eight o'clock hour. It's the Cincinnati Tax Resolution 1633 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,680 Speaker 2: power by Tope Sheldon Round Table Show. We're hanging at 1634 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 2: a Lognecks in Richwood. It's presented by Postman Law seven 1635 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 2: hundred WLW. 1636 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:27,120 Speaker 1: This is the Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Top Sheldon 1637 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 1: round Table Show, Live from Longnecks and Wilder, Presented by 1638 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Postman Law. 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Thanks to everybody who came out tonight and 1653 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 2: has been hanging out with us. Uh, We've got a 1654 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 2: lot to get to in this hour. 1655 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:32,080 Speaker 3: A quick story? 1656 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,639 Speaker 2: Can I tell you my quick story about my daughter 1657 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,200 Speaker 2: and music? As I said, when when there's a growing 1658 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 2: gap between you and your kids, you're always looking for 1659 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 2: the relatability factor of the music and stuff that keeps 1660 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 2: them interested in that that they engage in. So I'm 1661 01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,759 Speaker 2: always trying to be cool with Peyton. So I dropped 1662 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 2: her a text yesterday and I said, did you see 1663 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 2: role Model on Saturday Night Live? He's a singer performer okay? 1664 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,000 Speaker 2: And she said, yeah, I saw him And I said, 1665 01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:59,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what to think about that it was 1666 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,560 Speaker 2: And she says, he's okay, And so I'm on a 1667 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 2: roll and I say, well, I said, do. 1668 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 3: You listen to Beaches? 1669 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:12,560 Speaker 2: The Beaches say Canadian rock band and she says yeah occasionally. 1670 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 2: She said why were you listening to the Beaches And 1671 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,760 Speaker 2: I said, well it came up on YouTube after I 1672 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:24,280 Speaker 2: was listening to SISA, and her response was, this is 1673 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:30,120 Speaker 2: her response my text, So I'm I'm trying. 1674 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,240 Speaker 3: To score boy exactly. 1675 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,400 Speaker 2: I was trying to score some cool points and she 1676 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 2: she was wondering what I was up to. 1677 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:43,760 Speaker 3: Love it, Love it in this hour. A couple of 1678 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:44,680 Speaker 3: different things to get to. 1679 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 2: Let's do Tim McGee first, because I love the Monday 1680 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,840 Speaker 2: conversation that Tom Brenneman has with the former Bengal wide 1681 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,120 Speaker 2: receiver Tim McGee eight o'clock the day after each Bengals game. 1682 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,560 Speaker 2: They go through the game and Tim gives his assessment. 1683 01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,320 Speaker 2: A couple of things that Tim said, I thought we 1684 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,960 Speaker 2: could kick around. Here is the former Bengal wide receiver 1685 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,760 Speaker 2: with Tom earlier this week here on seven hundred WLW 1686 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,240 Speaker 2: talking about the talent level on this Bengals roster. 1687 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 15: I think we need to continue to manage our expectations. 1688 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,840 Speaker 15: The team put all their money into three players on 1689 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,320 Speaker 15: the offensive side, one player on the defensive side. So overall, 1690 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,000 Speaker 15: I have never and I know we say this, I 1691 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 15: personally say this a lot. I just never expected them 1692 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:34,040 Speaker 15: to be the beat the Baltimore Ravens or the Pittsburgh Steelers. 1693 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,040 Speaker 15: And now that you see it in real time, It's 1694 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 15: a very difficult pill to swallow. And I think it's 1695 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,599 Speaker 15: on the talent side. I don't think it's on the 1696 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 15: coaches side. I don't you know, every time they win, 1697 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,280 Speaker 15: you don't get Mike Brown credit. But when they lose, 1698 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 15: you you blame Mike Brown and you blame the Brown family. 1699 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 15: I just don't think this team is very talented on 1700 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,559 Speaker 15: either side of the ball outside of the Big Four 1701 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,320 Speaker 15: and other than I think there's. 1702 01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 12: A huge disparity and talent. 1703 01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,920 Speaker 5: Of their top tier players versus the next year. 1704 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:03,479 Speaker 3: Rocket's the big challenge. 1705 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 2: When you sink a lot of money into a small 1706 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 2: number of players, that pie shrinks and you have to 1707 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,920 Speaker 2: be really on it draft wise and hit on guys 1708 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 2: once you've paid the big bucks, or your roster runs 1709 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,240 Speaker 2: into problems, right. 1710 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I've been saying the same thing since the 1711 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,120 Speaker 4: beginning of the season as well. It's just that they 1712 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,200 Speaker 4: don't have good enough players. And we can talk about 1713 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,000 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor's play calling and should he hand over play 1714 01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,960 Speaker 4: calling duties and their lack of run game. They don't 1715 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:32,799 Speaker 4: have good enough players. 1716 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 3: That's what it comes down to. 1717 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 4: And and if for all the reasons we've discussed, ad 1718 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 4: nauseum with the inability to draft, especially at offensive and 1719 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,720 Speaker 4: defensive line, and so yeah, you can't sit here and 1720 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:49,519 Speaker 4: expect absolute miracles and some deep roster to appear when 1721 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,920 Speaker 4: they just haven't been able to get that to the draft. 1722 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,160 Speaker 2: In terms of the offense, and specifically on Sunday with 1723 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,719 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco, here's what Tim thought of how the offense looked. 1724 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,719 Speaker 15: They made such a conscious effort in the second half 1725 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 15: to get Chase the ball, just put the ball in 1726 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:07,879 Speaker 15: his hands. 1727 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:08,759 Speaker 12: And let him make plays. 1728 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,960 Speaker 15: He made obviously some unbelievable plays, But the first half 1729 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,880 Speaker 15: it was kind of like, Okay, what are you thinking? 1730 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 15: Then you're they kind of put the cuffs on the 1731 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,640 Speaker 15: offense as far as getting the ball in the personnel 1732 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,760 Speaker 15: that's neat that can make you plays. And then the 1733 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 15: second half, obviously they changed and the open up things 1734 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 15: a lot, a lot more. 1735 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:26,479 Speaker 8: So. 1736 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,880 Speaker 5: I will say this, I left with the after that game. 1737 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 15: I have I'm under the impression that this team is 1738 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,320 Speaker 15: not as bad as I thought they were and not 1739 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,040 Speaker 15: as good as I thought they were, but they have 1740 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,880 Speaker 15: some potential. I was really pleased with the offense performance 1741 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 15: in the second half, but they kind of looked like 1742 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,160 Speaker 15: they were a threat in Flack. Oh, you know, for 1743 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,800 Speaker 15: got it coming in, you know, four days, five days 1744 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,439 Speaker 15: or whatever it was before before you have to put 1745 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 15: the uniform on. 1746 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:52,240 Speaker 5: I thought he played pretty. 1747 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 2: Good Tim McGee on Monday, and to his point of 1748 01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,280 Speaker 2: finally getting the ball to Jamar Chase in the second half. 1749 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,000 Speaker 3: I go back to what you've said for a long time. 1750 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,640 Speaker 2: I saw our guy Kyle Caskey tweet this earlier in 1751 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,920 Speaker 2: the week and he said, matchups are where great coaches 1752 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,639 Speaker 2: come through. Great coaches find a way to get their 1753 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,719 Speaker 2: best players on the average players on the other team. 1754 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,000 Speaker 2: Coaches will figure out how to stop schemes, but better 1755 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 2: players will make mediocre plays efficient and make average plays great. 1756 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,679 Speaker 2: And that's something that you subscribe to us undred percent. 1757 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 4: It's been what's what I've seen win football games ever 1758 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,400 Speaker 4: since I've been playing football. And it's one thing to say, 1759 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 4: this is our strength, this is what we do, so 1760 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:35,719 Speaker 4: we're gonna lean know on what we do. It's another 1761 01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:40,000 Speaker 4: thing to say, where is their weakness and let's let's 1762 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,160 Speaker 4: go attack that. And I think it's the marrying of 1763 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 4: both of those is the real magic here. But Yeah, 1764 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,680 Speaker 4: instead of just saying, well, we're a running team, so 1765 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,439 Speaker 4: we're just gonna run the ball. Well what if they 1766 01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 4: have a great run defense. Well, how about instead, let's 1767 01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,280 Speaker 4: let's target a nickelback or a corner or a defensive 1768 01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,639 Speaker 4: tackle that we don't think is a very good player. 1769 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,920 Speaker 4: Are best guys there and try to exploit it. 1770 01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,640 Speaker 2: Now, of the run game, which is the continuing conversation 1771 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 2: we always seem to have about this team, the lack 1772 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 2: thereof or the lack of commitment, lack of execution. Here's 1773 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,679 Speaker 2: Tim McGee talking about the Bengals run game on Monday 1774 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:14,120 Speaker 2: with Tom. 1775 01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:19,160 Speaker 15: Well, you have a combination of challenges with the run game. 1776 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,679 Speaker 15: You have a head coach, last offensive coordinators, last play 1777 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,760 Speaker 15: caller that loves throwing the football. He loves putting the 1778 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:30,240 Speaker 15: quarterback in the pistol shotgun position and throwing the ball 1779 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,360 Speaker 15: time at the time, down at the down. That's always 1780 01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,519 Speaker 15: going to create yourself a problem for the running game. 1781 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,759 Speaker 15: So therefore, the mentality of the offensive lineman. They're working 1782 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,479 Speaker 15: on the kickstep, they're working on their shuttle, they're working 1783 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,080 Speaker 15: on a lot of things other than. 1784 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,400 Speaker 12: Run blocking and run blocking. 1785 01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,120 Speaker 15: As you know, the run game in particular, it's all 1786 01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 15: about attitude and determination and strength, strength, You got it, 1787 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,640 Speaker 15: you're going downhill. They don't have that attitude. So therefore, 1788 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,639 Speaker 15: it is very, very disappointing that week after week, game 1789 01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:03,000 Speaker 15: after game committing to the run, I mean a commitment 1790 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,479 Speaker 15: to we're going to be able to run this football 1791 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,479 Speaker 15: because again, in Clement Weather's coming, we're going to need it. 1792 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,320 Speaker 15: If we're going to be as the football team. 1793 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:11,040 Speaker 12: We got to run the ball. 1794 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:15,720 Speaker 15: And that is the most difficult, disappointing part of this 1795 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,479 Speaker 15: season has been the run game. And it starts with 1796 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,600 Speaker 15: the offensive line, and I think it also starts with 1797 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:22,599 Speaker 15: the play calls. 1798 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 2: It's the broken record rock and the thing that kills 1799 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,600 Speaker 2: me in watching the last couple of weeks. In the 1800 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 2: Detroit game, Jered Goff and the Lions, they balanced it 1801 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 2: was almost even passes to rushes. The Green Bay Packers 1802 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:38,840 Speaker 2: going into the game for the season, had run it 1803 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 2: exactly the same number of times they had passed it, 1804 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,080 Speaker 2: which is unique in the league. I'll give you that. 1805 01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:48,200 Speaker 2: On Sunday the Bengals Chase Brown. He only carried nine times, 1806 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,400 Speaker 2: but he averaged four point seven yards. And there's so 1807 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:55,760 Speaker 2: many moments I say, make the commitment now, you may 1808 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,920 Speaker 2: not think you're gonna get yards on this play. 1809 01:28:58,120 --> 01:28:58,800 Speaker 4: Take a chance. 1810 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,080 Speaker 3: They had another third. 1811 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,479 Speaker 2: In two on their own forty two yard line in 1812 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,040 Speaker 2: the second quarter, and to me again, that screams and 1813 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,800 Speaker 2: other guys, here we go two plays to get two yards. 1814 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:08,840 Speaker 3: We're gonna get it on the. 1815 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 2: Ground, and they have Flacco drop to throw and it's 1816 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 2: a three yard loss to Tanner Hudson. And they asked 1817 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:21,240 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco in that week to throw it forty five times. 1818 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,800 Speaker 2: How do you possibly ask a forty year old quarterback 1819 01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,400 Speaker 2: who's been with your team for four days in learning 1820 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,960 Speaker 2: your offense to throw it forty five times in a 1821 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,880 Speaker 2: game that was close, it wasn't a blowout. You gotta 1822 01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 2: sling it every single down. 1823 01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,120 Speaker 4: It just it's insane. I'm gonna disagree with you a 1824 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:41,360 Speaker 4: little bit here because I think the Bengals are realistic 1825 01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,360 Speaker 4: and they know what we see, which is that they're 1826 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,400 Speaker 4: just flat and not good at running the ball. So 1827 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,519 Speaker 4: why why continue to try to do something you're terrible at? 1828 01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,680 Speaker 2: But but a in the sample size of Sunday, if 1829 01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:58,200 Speaker 2: Chase Brown carries nine times and averages four point seven, that's, 1830 01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,360 Speaker 2: to me, is different than averaging one point. If I'm 1831 01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,360 Speaker 2: getting that out of him, I'm saying, well, if I 1832 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,479 Speaker 2: got that in nine, let's give it to him a 1833 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:06,439 Speaker 2: little bit more. 1834 01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:08,080 Speaker 3: See what I'm saying. 1835 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,160 Speaker 2: If they got nothing out of him, they would get 1836 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:12,040 Speaker 2: he had a thirteen. 1837 01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,360 Speaker 4: Yards and they're saying, my god, how the hell is 1838 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,320 Speaker 4: he did? We get him four point seven yards per rush? 1839 01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,439 Speaker 4: We must have a golden horse er up her reer. 1840 01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,200 Speaker 4: I think that's what they're thinking, to be honest, and 1841 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 4: there's no way we can go back to that. Well again, 1842 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,040 Speaker 4: ask what you're saying. I just think the mentality of 1843 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,720 Speaker 4: this run game at this point. Again, going back to 1844 01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,720 Speaker 4: the players, Let's be realistic about the players we have. 1845 01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:34,320 Speaker 3: It's it's it's to. 1846 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:38,519 Speaker 4: Be good enough of the run game, just good enough 1847 01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,880 Speaker 4: that the other team can't sit on the pass the 1848 01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:45,719 Speaker 4: whole game. Just enough where if they absolutely drop everybody 1849 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,519 Speaker 4: back and it's a super light box boom, we hand 1850 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,720 Speaker 4: the ball offs. Okay, god are we Let's bring the 1851 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,760 Speaker 4: safety back down. I think that's the realistic goal for 1852 01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,400 Speaker 4: this offense, because they're just not good at and they're 1853 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:57,120 Speaker 4: not built that way. 1854 01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:01,280 Speaker 2: One more from Tim, and it's something that I think 1855 01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:05,360 Speaker 2: swings based on what happens tomorrow night, and if they 1856 01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,040 Speaker 2: were to lose. Tom ask you about the possibility and 1857 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:12,080 Speaker 2: the stories that have been coming out about perhaps teams 1858 01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 2: being interested in trading for Trey Hendrickson. Tom asked Tim 1859 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,000 Speaker 2: McGee if he consider trading Trey Hendrickson. 1860 01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,360 Speaker 15: Absolutely, absolutely, And here's the reason why. 1861 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:23,519 Speaker 12: He's only one year deal. 1862 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,080 Speaker 5: He is a huge asset. 1863 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,519 Speaker 15: You can get some draft capital or maybe another player 1864 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:34,280 Speaker 15: two backs, and now you can really build a solid defense. 1865 01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,759 Speaker 15: But you only right now he is the only bona 1866 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 15: fide star or superstar player on the defensive side. So yeah, 1867 01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,760 Speaker 15: I would strongly. Now obviously, when I say strongly consider, Tom, 1868 01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,240 Speaker 15: I'm talking about what I got coming back in return. 1869 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,240 Speaker 15: If I got something coming back in return that I 1870 01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:55,439 Speaker 15: can build a defense around Al Golden's system. Absolutely, if 1871 01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,600 Speaker 15: I get that draft capital, maybe a first round or 1872 01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:01,240 Speaker 15: maybe a second round or whatever, absolutely I would definitely considering, because, 1873 01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,280 Speaker 15: you know, considering the Bengals are right now going to 1874 01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 15: be drafting pretty high in San Francisco. He's doing too 1875 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:06,679 Speaker 15: good himself. 1876 01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:08,400 Speaker 5: You may, you know, you may have. 1877 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,759 Speaker 15: Two top fifteen first round picks. 1878 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:11,640 Speaker 3: You just never know. 1879 01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,479 Speaker 2: Tim McGee earlier this week, with Tom Brenneman here on 1880 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,400 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW, I'm not ready. Yeah, I think tomorrow 1881 01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,200 Speaker 2: night's results start to swing that answer and make it 1882 01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,519 Speaker 2: more clear, because if they do fall out of this, 1883 01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,120 Speaker 2: I don't believe Trey Hendrickson'll be on this team next season. 1884 01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:29,800 Speaker 3: So you got to trade him. He just can't let 1885 01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:30,519 Speaker 3: him walk away. 1886 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,240 Speaker 2: You got to get something if you fall out of 1887 01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,559 Speaker 2: the race and somebody wants him, you got to get 1888 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:36,920 Speaker 2: something in terms of draft capital. 1889 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:38,479 Speaker 3: I'll help you for the draft. 1890 01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:40,559 Speaker 4: And I mean we talked about this at the beginning 1891 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,920 Speaker 4: of the show. It kind of seems like the defenses 1892 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,799 Speaker 4: in rebuilding mode already. Yeah, right with Barry Carter starting 1893 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,479 Speaker 4: sixty one playing sixty one snaps, So if that seems 1894 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,360 Speaker 4: to be the theme, then yeah, get something for. 1895 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:53,920 Speaker 3: Him before he walks out the door. 1896 01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:58,080 Speaker 4: Which is why, again going back to earlier conversations, why 1897 01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,799 Speaker 4: this week seems to really matter. You lose five straight, 1898 01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:05,719 Speaker 4: then I think it's really time to slip into let's 1899 01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 4: worry about next year mode. 1900 01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,960 Speaker 2: And as long as we're along these lines quickly, then 1901 01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,800 Speaker 2: I think it also includes at that point, then if 1902 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,800 Speaker 2: somebody wants Cam Taylor brit come getting if somebody wants 1903 01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,960 Speaker 2: Logan Wilson come getting, because obviously Logan Wilson isn't in 1904 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:21,840 Speaker 2: their plans. So if they fall out of the race 1905 01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,679 Speaker 2: and there's there's nothing to be playing for that. If 1906 01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,280 Speaker 2: somebody gives you a warm body for Cam Taylor brit 1907 01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,839 Speaker 2: or a low draft pick, I'd start accumulating draft picks 1908 01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,719 Speaker 2: as many as I could get for guys who aren't 1909 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:33,880 Speaker 2: part of my team going forward. 1910 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:35,200 Speaker 3: You have to you have to. 1911 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,479 Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta be realistic with where you're at 1912 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,240 Speaker 4: and then and want one and then and then commit 1913 01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,439 Speaker 4: to it. Y are we are we in we get 1914 01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:44,679 Speaker 4: to the playoffs mode here? 1915 01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,240 Speaker 3: Or are we in? Let let's think about tomorrow mode 1916 01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:47,960 Speaker 3: still ahead? 1917 01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,720 Speaker 2: A little bit from Joe Flacco, plus what Matt Williamson 1918 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 2: said to Rock earlier this afternoon, Who covers the Steelers? 1919 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,400 Speaker 2: As we roll on from Long Next in rich Wood, 1920 01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,360 Speaker 2: It's the Roundtable Show presented by Postman Law, the Cincinnati 1921 01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:01,519 Speaker 2: Tax Resolution powered by Tope Show. Roundtable Show brought to 1922 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 2: you in part by ever Dry. It's not dry until 1923 01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:16,960 Speaker 2: it's ever dry. On seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW 1924 01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,479 Speaker 2: Long Necks in Richwood, The spot cool giveaway tonight. Thanks 1925 01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:26,799 Speaker 2: to everybody who participated in Congrats to our couple of winners. 1926 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:29,240 Speaker 3: Let's do. 1927 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,320 Speaker 2: Our first look at Sunday's opponent rock Our game day 1928 01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,400 Speaker 2: preview brought to you by Game Day Men's Health Get 1929 01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,880 Speaker 2: back in the game today the Steelers. The opponent Joe 1930 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:45,080 Speaker 2: Flacco this week, ask about the Steelers getting one game 1931 01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,840 Speaker 2: under his belt, ready for the quick turnaround. Here's the 1932 01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:48,799 Speaker 2: Bengals quarterback. 1933 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,640 Speaker 16: You know, I think I've been around long enough to 1934 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,719 Speaker 16: deal with some unique situations and you know, the preparation 1935 01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,920 Speaker 16: for a Thursday night games. So just trying to keep it, 1936 01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,800 Speaker 16: you know, keep it in that mindset. 1937 01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,439 Speaker 3: And what sticks out out on top of the team. 1938 01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:07,599 Speaker 16: Look how consistent they've been over the last twenty years. 1939 01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 16: I mean, how long has he been there now, twenty 1940 01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,439 Speaker 16: years or more. They're always physical. I think they found 1941 01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,320 Speaker 16: out who they wanted to be as a team early 1942 01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:19,280 Speaker 16: on and they've continued to build their teams based off 1943 01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,360 Speaker 16: of that, and that's why they always have a chance. 1944 01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:23,800 Speaker 3: You know them a few times, I mean there's been 1945 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,680 Speaker 3: some eleven against them. Yeah, it's been all switch of 1946 01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,880 Speaker 3: games with them. Yeah, I played them last year. 1947 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,479 Speaker 16: I didn't get to win because I didn't start the game, 1948 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:32,400 Speaker 16: but we did. 1949 01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,960 Speaker 3: We we we were able to get them last year. 1950 01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:35,400 Speaker 14: Dude. 1951 01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,679 Speaker 16: I have so many great memories of playing these guys 1952 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,880 Speaker 16: and so much respect for them as a team. Even 1953 01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,080 Speaker 16: though they've changed over the years, still a lot of 1954 01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:45,960 Speaker 16: those same guys and familiar faces, and you know, just 1955 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:46,840 Speaker 16: a lot of respect for. 1956 01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 3: What they've been able to do. 1957 01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,720 Speaker 16: And always battling against those guys, you know you're in 1958 01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:51,519 Speaker 16: for a good one. 1959 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,599 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco earlier this week. Amazing note Joe Flacco has 1960 01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:59,360 Speaker 2: thrown a touchdown pass to Jamar Chase and once threw 1961 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,559 Speaker 2: a touchdown pass to TJ. 1962 01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,240 Speaker 3: Hushman Zada. Think about that for a second. 1963 01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:04,439 Speaker 13: Wow. 1964 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:08,320 Speaker 2: Think about how long he's played that he's thrown touchdown 1965 01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:12,160 Speaker 2: passes to each and Willie Anderson blocked for him his 1966 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:13,839 Speaker 2: first year with the Baltimore Ravens. 1967 01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:15,280 Speaker 3: That's incredible to think. 1968 01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:19,160 Speaker 4: I played against Joe Flacco my last year in two 1969 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,479 Speaker 4: thousand and nine of the Steelers, we played him. 1970 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Udriel Monday Night Football. He's uh, he's forty and 1971 01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,760 Speaker 2: I thought this was worth playing. This is a little 1972 01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,560 Speaker 2: bit longer, but again it points to how impressed I 1973 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,320 Speaker 2: am with Joe Flacco and how he views his opportunity 1974 01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:37,679 Speaker 2: right now. Here's Joe yesterday talking about being forty still 1975 01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,920 Speaker 2: playing in the league, having his body ready to play 1976 01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,120 Speaker 2: in the league at this stage, and the things he's learned. 1977 01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:43,719 Speaker 3: Take a listen. 1978 01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,360 Speaker 16: I think the biggest thing that I've learned in terms 1979 01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,599 Speaker 16: of wanting to play a long time in your career 1980 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,960 Speaker 16: is that you've made a decision that football is important 1981 01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,880 Speaker 16: to you, and somewhere inside of you, you've told yourself 1982 01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,439 Speaker 16: that you want to play a long time. And because 1983 01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,559 Speaker 16: you want to, and because you've made the decision that 1984 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,280 Speaker 16: you're going to, you take all the necessary steps to 1985 01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,080 Speaker 16: make sure that your body's ready to go and you're 1986 01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:12,519 Speaker 16: mentally still, you know, energized about learning game plans and 1987 01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,160 Speaker 16: things like that. I think a lot of times guys 1988 01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,479 Speaker 16: in this league, no matter what your profession is, it 1989 01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,800 Speaker 16: does become work to a certain extent, And just because 1990 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,439 Speaker 16: we're playing a child's game, it doesn't it's not any different. 1991 01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:26,240 Speaker 16: You're not immune to kind of feeling like this can 1992 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,280 Speaker 16: be worked sometimes. But I think when you make up 1993 01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,080 Speaker 16: your mind that you want to do something, then you 1994 01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,240 Speaker 16: take the necessary steps to make sure you can do it, 1995 01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,960 Speaker 16: and I think this league has, you know, especially at 1996 01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,640 Speaker 16: the quarterback position, because it's not like you're ramming your 1997 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,160 Speaker 16: head against the wall twenty four to seven and dealing 1998 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,240 Speaker 16: with that. So in terms of being if you can 1999 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,080 Speaker 16: be lucky enough to like stay healthy from all the 2000 01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,920 Speaker 16: on field stuff, I think quarterbacks the position where if 2001 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,160 Speaker 16: you make the decision that you want to play and 2002 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:53,960 Speaker 16: you're willing. I mean, in my case, I think I've 2003 01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:55,920 Speaker 16: had to be willing to kind of deal with some 2004 01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,599 Speaker 16: circumstances that I'm not necessarily happy with with the idea 2005 01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,240 Speaker 16: that I want to come out on the other end. 2006 01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,320 Speaker 16: I think for me playing as long as I have 2007 01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 16: now that's been the hardest part is just being in 2008 01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:08,479 Speaker 16: some situations that they're not ideal, They're not exactly what 2009 01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,280 Speaker 16: I want, but hey, it's where I am. 2010 01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:12,240 Speaker 3: I got to face it. 2011 01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:15,240 Speaker 16: Head on and have faith that you know, hard work's 2012 01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:16,880 Speaker 16: gonna pay off at some point and I'm gonna be 2013 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:18,560 Speaker 16: able to, you know, be in a position that I 2014 01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,040 Speaker 16: do enjoy and I'm excited about. 2015 01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,800 Speaker 3: There's just a maturity and a seasoning to that guy that. 2016 01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,559 Speaker 4: Is really impressively impressive. Yeah, you can see why the 2017 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:33,040 Speaker 4: guy's played so long. He's thoughtful, he's smart. You can 2018 01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:36,400 Speaker 4: tell he's thought a lot about you know, how to 2019 01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:37,280 Speaker 4: go about. 2020 01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,800 Speaker 3: The position and all that. 2021 01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,320 Speaker 4: So yeah, again, you can tell why he's played so 2022 01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:46,080 Speaker 4: long by the way. I almost say it's equally, if 2023 01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,840 Speaker 4: not more impressive that the Bengals are gonna play Cam 2024 01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:53,040 Speaker 4: Hayward right tomorrow, who's played fifteen years that de tackles. 2025 01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:53,240 Speaker 13: Yes. 2026 01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,280 Speaker 4: I did the math, and it's like, if you take 2027 01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,320 Speaker 4: let's say sixteen games a year for fifteen seasons, you 2028 01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,960 Speaker 4: figure out seventy plays a game. It's like, just shy 2029 01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:04,920 Speaker 4: of seventeen thousand times he's been hitting the face because 2030 01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:06,600 Speaker 4: you get hit in the face every play if you 2031 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:07,960 Speaker 4: play d line right. 2032 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,800 Speaker 3: Amazing, that's an amazing no doubt. Yeah. 2033 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,640 Speaker 2: One more on the Steelers while we're talking about the 2034 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,320 Speaker 2: opponent for Sunday, you and Eddie talked with Matt Williamson 2035 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,320 Speaker 2: today from the Drive. He's the co host of the 2036 01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:22,400 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Network. And you ask him the Steelers right 2037 01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,960 Speaker 2: now at four and one, if he considers them a 2038 01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:28,120 Speaker 2: top tier team or if they've kind of taken advantage 2039 01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:29,559 Speaker 2: of scheduling and some other things. 2040 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,600 Speaker 3: Here's what he said about the Steelers. 2041 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,120 Speaker 12: I mean, I think that they are taking advantage of 2042 01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:39,040 Speaker 12: some poor teams and are a mature group, you know, 2043 01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:40,800 Speaker 12: led by a head coach that's done this for a 2044 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:42,680 Speaker 12: long time and a quarterback that's done this for a 2045 01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,080 Speaker 12: long time, and they're getting much better quarter It's clearly 2046 01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:49,120 Speaker 12: the best quarterback play they've had. Ben If that goes 2047 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,640 Speaker 12: a long way, they don't have to overcome the quarterback. 2048 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,559 Speaker 12: But I also don't look at them as to pick 2049 01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,160 Speaker 12: that Tier one team. 2050 01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:55,200 Speaker 4: You know. 2051 01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:57,719 Speaker 12: I mean, But that being said, I did a podcast 2052 01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,479 Speaker 12: yesterday saying who's the best team in the league. I 2053 01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,080 Speaker 12: don't really know right now. I mean, I don't see 2054 01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:06,639 Speaker 12: the Steelers ceiling being as high as the Bills achieved, 2055 01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:10,519 Speaker 12: et cetera. But who is good right now? I mean, 2056 01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,639 Speaker 12: that's kind of what the league wants, is this parody, 2057 01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:13,360 Speaker 12: and they're getting it. 2058 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,280 Speaker 4: Matt described to these Bengals listeners right now, what is 2059 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,280 Speaker 4: the strengths of the Steelers team in your opinion? 2060 01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:23,599 Speaker 12: The defense, to me is really starting to hum and 2061 01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,720 Speaker 12: they did very little blitzing last year. They're now at 2062 01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,599 Speaker 12: the top of the league in blitz percentage. And not 2063 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:32,200 Speaker 12: only are they blitzing a lot, but they're bringing six 2064 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:36,280 Speaker 12: consistently and even without blitz. I think we all know 2065 01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:39,400 Speaker 12: that they have very good pass rushers led by Dj 2066 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,920 Speaker 12: Watt and Cam Hayward. But the defense right now is 2067 01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:48,080 Speaker 12: really aggressive, really disruptive. It kind of reminds me of 2068 01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:52,840 Speaker 12: like Dick Lebo, Troy Paulamalou, James Harrison Glitzberg era, you know, 2069 01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:57,200 Speaker 12: where they're just controlling games against some lesser offenses. Albeit, 2070 01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:01,559 Speaker 12: but the offense is a work in progress. It's very 2071 01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,800 Speaker 12: Rogers centrist. I mean, he's controlling everything at the line 2072 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,200 Speaker 12: of scrimmage, and the beauty of the offense is kind 2073 01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:10,000 Speaker 12: of you have to peel back the curtain a little bit. 2074 01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,880 Speaker 12: But I think mostly because of Rogers, they have very 2075 01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:17,320 Speaker 12: few negative plays on offense. You know, they don't take 2076 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,640 Speaker 12: many sacks, they don't turn the ball over much, they 2077 01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:20,400 Speaker 12: don't have. 2078 01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:21,879 Speaker 5: A lot of tackles for loss. 2079 01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:22,960 Speaker 8: So he's always. 2080 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,320 Speaker 12: Getting them in the right play. And while they're progressing 2081 01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,400 Speaker 12: as an offense, they don't go backwards very much, and 2082 01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:31,840 Speaker 12: the defense creates a lot of big plays in the 2083 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:33,519 Speaker 12: opposite way and puts people going back. 2084 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,400 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson earlier today were you jotting now notes to 2085 01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,880 Speaker 3: react or not? Yes? Absolutely? Did you want to react? 2086 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:41,000 Speaker 13: No? 2087 01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:49,200 Speaker 17: Thought might draw jo No, that's turn to break. Not 2088 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:52,560 Speaker 17: during the segment, hold on the thought. We got to 2089 01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:57,840 Speaker 17: take a time out. He's rock, he said. Sinnatti tags resolution. 2090 01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:01,080 Speaker 2: By Top Sheldon Round Table Show, Long Now Richwood, presented 2091 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:13,360 Speaker 2: by Postman Law seven hundred WLW eight thirty five seven 2092 01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:17,479 Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Cruising through our third and final hour tonight, 2093 01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,679 Speaker 2: let's see nine o'clock Wednesday night. I believe Dan Carroll 2094 01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:23,280 Speaker 2: tonight nine to midnight, but we've got things to get 2095 01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:25,360 Speaker 2: to between now and then. Thanks for hanging out with 2096 01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:27,920 Speaker 2: us tonight. If you've been here in person, thanks for 2097 01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,160 Speaker 2: stopping by. Long next day in Richwood. 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Five different contributed on those 2112 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,960 Speaker 2: six sacks. And that's that's kind of the Pittsburgh what. Yeah, 2113 01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,960 Speaker 2: they have what but they have so many guys where 2114 01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,600 Speaker 2: we worry if there's gonna be help for tray and 2115 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:20,600 Speaker 2: if somebody's gonna be able to offer something on the 2116 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,640 Speaker 2: other side. Pressure wise, the Steelers get it from so 2117 01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,840 Speaker 2: many different contributors and you never know where it's coming from. 2118 01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:31,000 Speaker 4: I mean, and he said it, it's a style. H 2119 01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,920 Speaker 4: Flacco said it. It's just a style that they like 2120 01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,880 Speaker 4: and it works for them, and they've just continued to 2121 01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:39,519 Speaker 4: fill in over the decades. 2122 01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,840 Speaker 2: I mean literally, all right, it is time for the 2123 01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:45,760 Speaker 2: Kelsey Chevrolet College Football Weekend preview. Kelsey Chevrolet celebrating ten 2124 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,639 Speaker 2: years have taken care of customers like family. Today, they 2125 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,960 Speaker 2: continue that promise with a new look built on transparency 2126 01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,599 Speaker 2: and peace of mind. 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The Buckeyes are a twenty eight and 2136 01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,120 Speaker 2: a half point road favorite, the largest spread in the 2137 01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:30,000 Speaker 2: matchup between the two schools since nineteen ninety nine. Luke 2138 01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:33,360 Speaker 2: Fickle on a very hot seat, but with a seat 2139 01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:37,000 Speaker 2: that carries what a thirty five million thousand buy out. 2140 01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:38,920 Speaker 3: It's insane. 2141 01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:42,280 Speaker 4: We can get into this later, but I mean right now, 2142 01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:47,120 Speaker 4: there's been seven fired FBS coaches in the buyout numbers 2143 01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:49,000 Speaker 4: are tally one hundred million dollars. 2144 01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,680 Speaker 2: Let's make that expanding on that are hot topic of 2145 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:53,320 Speaker 2: the week here in just a second. That's a good 2146 01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,200 Speaker 2: one coming up on off their second by week of 2147 01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,080 Speaker 2: the season, Ohio State host number twenty one Texas. The 2148 01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,000 Speaker 2: Wildcats play a home game for the first time in 2149 01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:04,160 Speaker 2: five weeks. Texas is playing in the Bluegrass State for 2150 01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:07,280 Speaker 2: just the second time in program history. They played at 2151 01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:10,120 Speaker 2: Louisville in nineteen ninety three. Miami puts a three game 2152 01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,439 Speaker 2: winning streak on the line at home against Eastern Michigan. 2153 01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,920 Speaker 2: With a win over the what are they the Chippewas, 2154 01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:20,080 Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan Chippolwa, the Eagles, Eastern Michigan Eagles, Chira Central 2155 01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,519 Speaker 2: Michigan There Chuck Martin with the win would tie Bob 2156 01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:26,679 Speaker 2: Prewitt of Marshall Fame with fifty four MAC career wins, 2157 01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:31,200 Speaker 2: fourth best in MAC history. Rocks Irish welcome USC and 2158 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:35,280 Speaker 2: a battle under the lights, a matchup with major playoff implications. 2159 01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,559 Speaker 2: The Irish I ranked thirteenth, the Trojans ranked twentieth. USC 2160 01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:42,000 Speaker 2: has won once ince South Ben since two thousand and ten. 2161 01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,080 Speaker 2: And that would have been what the the push the 2162 01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:45,800 Speaker 2: Bush push? 2163 01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:46,040 Speaker 14: Right? 2164 01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,240 Speaker 3: Yes, right, yeah, when they pushed. 2165 01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:53,040 Speaker 2: Reggie Bush in you were women how many what three 2166 01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,920 Speaker 2: and four? No, you could have been three and four. 2167 01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:57,600 Speaker 2: You went to play three and one? I say you 2168 01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,400 Speaker 2: didn't play it, so how long were you at notre day? 2169 01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:03,200 Speaker 4: It is the hour U number three nowadays, that could 2170 01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,960 Speaker 4: be possible exactly, guy's playing seven years number three. 2171 01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,439 Speaker 2: IU, coming off a huge road win over Oregon, returns 2172 01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:12,000 Speaker 2: to Bloomington to host Michigan State is a twenty six 2173 01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:15,320 Speaker 2: and a half point favorite. Michigan State is allowing forty 2174 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,599 Speaker 2: points a game in Big Ten play, including giving up 2175 01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,880 Speaker 2: over two hundred and sixty yards rushing to both USC 2176 01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:25,360 Speaker 2: and UCLA. Indiana leads the Big Ten in rushing at 2177 01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,320 Speaker 2: two forty one per game. I'll tell you what, not 2178 01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,439 Speaker 2: that I was a doubter or of Eyu. I like IU, 2179 01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:34,080 Speaker 2: I like Kurt Signetti, but there's still part of me 2180 01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,439 Speaker 2: that said, I still want to see just a real, 2181 01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,760 Speaker 2: like defining win. I'll tell you what, when you go 2182 01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,639 Speaker 2: to Oregon and win there where they'd won twenty two straight, 2183 01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,559 Speaker 2: they never lose and win as impressive as they did. 2184 01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,000 Speaker 3: That was a hell of a win by Indiana. Unbelievable. 2185 01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:52,760 Speaker 4: Did I hear somebody say earlier that Signetti was the 2186 01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,519 Speaker 4: choice of Scott Saderfield hadn't accepted the UC job. 2187 01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:57,880 Speaker 3: Oh I did not hear that. Wow, I did. Can 2188 01:46:57,920 --> 01:46:58,519 Speaker 3: you imagine? 2189 01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,680 Speaker 2: Purdue heads to East to Evanston take on Northwestern. The 2190 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,800 Speaker 2: boiler Makers have dropped four straight after a two oh 2191 01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,840 Speaker 2: start in northwesterns one three straight. Louisville heads to Coral 2192 01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:12,679 Speaker 2: Gables to face number two Miami. Friday Night, The Ohio 2193 01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:15,559 Speaker 2: Bobcats welcome Northern Illinois to Athens for homecoming. 2194 01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,639 Speaker 3: The Huskies are one and five. They're averaging just ten 2195 01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:18,759 Speaker 3: points a game. Ouch. 2196 01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,839 Speaker 2: Mount Saint Joe travels to Bluffton Thomas Moore host Tiffin. 2197 01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,280 Speaker 2: All right, let's do I'm looking for it here? 2198 01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:27,559 Speaker 3: Where is it? 2199 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,200 Speaker 2: Why can't I see I have our hot topic of 2200 01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:33,599 Speaker 2: the week. 2201 01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:36,040 Speaker 3: I know we have a Oh, here it is. It's 2202 01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:37,559 Speaker 3: up at the very top of my list. Rock. 2203 01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:41,800 Speaker 2: It is time for right there for this week's hot 2204 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,040 Speaker 2: topic around the NFL in college. We'll make it brought 2205 01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,320 Speaker 2: to you by Hudson Oil, fueling champions on and off 2206 01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,280 Speaker 2: the field. First, from an NFL standpoint, Brian Callahan got 2207 01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:55,000 Speaker 2: fired by the Tennessee Titans in his second season. They 2208 01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,000 Speaker 2: were one in five this year, they were three and 2209 01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:00,439 Speaker 2: fourteen last year. Hard to feel sorry for when he's 2210 01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,000 Speaker 2: got two more years left on a deal. It pays 2211 01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:03,840 Speaker 2: him three million a year the next couple of years. 2212 01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:08,120 Speaker 2: But that organization in the last I think thinks it's 2213 01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:11,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. They've had a GM, they fired, they 2214 01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:14,120 Speaker 2: hired another GM, they fired that GM. They had Vrabel, 2215 01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,160 Speaker 2: they fired him, they hired Callahan, they fired him. When 2216 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:20,200 Speaker 2: you're turning things over that consistently and that impatiently, you're 2217 01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:21,240 Speaker 2: never gonna build anything. 2218 01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:24,559 Speaker 4: It's amazing because I mean my time there and throughout 2219 01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:27,840 Speaker 4: probably most of the Titans history in Nashville, they were 2220 01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:30,479 Speaker 4: a buttoned up organization, you know what I mean. You 2221 01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,040 Speaker 4: had Jeff Fisher for a while. Didn't make a bunch 2222 01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,519 Speaker 4: of crazy coaching hiring and firings and that kind of 2223 01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,000 Speaker 4: By the way, that's what they should bring back. Jeff Fisher. 2224 01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:40,000 Speaker 3: What do you think do you think? So? 2225 01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:43,760 Speaker 2: No, no, you know, Jeff Fisher is did I can't 2226 01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:45,760 Speaker 2: remember if we talked about this or not. You know, 2227 01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:49,080 Speaker 2: the indoor team that's coming to Northern Kentucky, the Barrels. 2228 01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:51,240 Speaker 2: Jeff Fisher is the commissioner of the league. 2229 01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:53,080 Speaker 3: Yes, were we talking about I think we were talking 2230 01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:55,840 Speaker 3: about that. I forgot about it. Yeah, but yeah, there 2231 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,600 Speaker 3: you go. So I don't know if he would he 2232 01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:58,760 Speaker 3: leave the commissioner's job. 2233 01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:01,400 Speaker 4: I just wonder. I mean, you got a fan base 2234 01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:04,599 Speaker 4: that is very loyal and loves you, cam base that's 2235 01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:08,759 Speaker 4: not that critical of you, and they've had a pretty 2236 01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:12,360 Speaker 4: good history I guess, maybe not recently, but yeah, why 2237 01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,840 Speaker 4: can't they get together? I guess because they keep changing 2238 01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:15,320 Speaker 4: their mind? 2239 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:19,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, and you know, from this standpoint, poort Brian Callahan, 2240 01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:21,559 Speaker 2: he went in there and his quarterback was Will Levice, 2241 01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:23,519 Speaker 2: who was never going to be the answer, and then 2242 01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:25,880 Speaker 2: they draft Cam Moore number one in a year where 2243 01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,960 Speaker 2: he was more I think that the best, the number 2244 01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,400 Speaker 2: one ranked quarterback by default, because it just wasn't a 2245 01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:32,639 Speaker 2: great quarterback class. 2246 01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:34,360 Speaker 3: So he's before. 2247 01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you're just it was just a mess 2248 01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:39,040 Speaker 2: and it did not work for him. But on the 2249 01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,880 Speaker 2: grander scale of your point of coaches being fired and 2250 01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:45,800 Speaker 2: and uh, James Franklin now out with a with what 2251 01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:49,240 Speaker 2: what is it like forty nine million day million dollars 2252 01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:51,320 Speaker 2: now here here. I said this earlier in the week, 2253 01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:56,400 Speaker 2: when this is what fascinates me. When are presidents of 2254 01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:59,680 Speaker 2: schools going to start firing the athletic director when he 2255 01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:01,640 Speaker 2: walks into the office and say, hey, I want to 2256 01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:03,280 Speaker 2: fire the coach and we have to write him a 2257 01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,720 Speaker 2: check for forty million dollars. Because I'm the president, I'm going, 2258 01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:10,640 Speaker 2: why did you negotiate that? And why am I paying that? 2259 01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,440 Speaker 2: Why don't you just go to it? Just it fascinates 2260 01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,639 Speaker 2: me how i'da whack. This whole thing is God would 2261 01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:19,919 Speaker 2: buyouts and money. By the way, there's no other industry 2262 01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:21,439 Speaker 2: where this happens like this. 2263 01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:26,160 Speaker 4: And it's funny because I talked to odo u's coach, 2264 01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,799 Speaker 4: Ricky Ronnie today, who was with Penn State and Franklin 2265 01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,120 Speaker 4: for a while. He's like, he's like thinking about in 2266 01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,800 Speaker 4: another just totally different industry. Let's let's take a big 2267 01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:39,639 Speaker 4: investment firm or something like that, or say a sales 2268 01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:42,200 Speaker 4: firm and you see, you know, you walk into the 2269 01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:45,400 Speaker 4: president and say, yeah, we just we had our best 2270 01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:49,559 Speaker 4: sales guy who had just been nailing his numbers all 2271 01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:52,880 Speaker 4: the time. You had a bad quarter, so we fired him. 2272 01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,759 Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, we owe him fifty million dollars. 2273 01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,360 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Like, what are you talking about? 2274 01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:01,120 Speaker 3: They just throw that. 2275 01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:02,479 Speaker 4: Money around like it's nothing. 2276 01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And now I mean think about it. Whoever Penn 2277 01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:08,599 Speaker 3: State hires. So I know, if James Franklin gets another job, 2278 01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:10,800 Speaker 3: it's some of the money's offset by his new job. 2279 01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:11,120 Speaker 3: I get that. 2280 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:14,400 Speaker 2: But on the surface, right now, you're paying James Franklin 2281 01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,920 Speaker 2: about forty nine million to not coach. You're gonna have 2282 01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,880 Speaker 2: to hire a new coach who, let's just say, for 2283 01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:24,240 Speaker 2: argument's sake, you give him a say, he's got to 2284 01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:26,960 Speaker 2: be a seven year deal at what at least ten 2285 01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:28,160 Speaker 2: let's just say. 2286 01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,360 Speaker 3: Seventy million. You have to pay that guy's seventy million. 2287 01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:35,120 Speaker 2: That's on one hundred and nineteen million which could have 2288 01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,320 Speaker 2: been used towards and I I mean, you still gotta 2289 01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:38,080 Speaker 2: pay the nil. 2290 01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,920 Speaker 4: That's the thing. And the promise was in the you know, 2291 01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:45,240 Speaker 4: the GMS and the coaches and football people I talked. 2292 01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,320 Speaker 3: You said one thing about NIL is it'll. 2293 01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:51,200 Speaker 4: Give coaches a longer lease because universities are not gonna 2294 01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:54,400 Speaker 4: want to pay a huge buyout that they could otherwise 2295 01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:57,600 Speaker 4: use to buy players. And that hasn't happened here we are. 2296 01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:59,880 Speaker 4: It's just like it's still like just doesn't matter. 2297 01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,280 Speaker 2: They get rid of a coach and fine, there's there's 2298 01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:05,519 Speaker 2: big money people boosters everywhere who will they'll say I 2299 01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:06,200 Speaker 2: don't like that guy. 2300 01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:10,080 Speaker 4: I think I think it just shows you how many 2301 01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:12,840 Speaker 4: rich people there are out there. They can just do 2302 01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,160 Speaker 4: that and say, all right, let me call Dave and 2303 01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:17,720 Speaker 4: Tim and Steve and we'll figure out a way to 2304 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:18,120 Speaker 4: cover it. 2305 01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:21,400 Speaker 3: And like what I now, that's the fascinating part. 2306 01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:23,439 Speaker 2: I'd love to see, like a thirty for thirty behind 2307 01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:27,240 Speaker 2: the scenes of when the big money boosters got together 2308 01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:31,320 Speaker 2: and decided, as in their room, guys, do we have 2309 01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,400 Speaker 2: the money to pony up to get rid of this guy? 2310 01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,840 Speaker 2: And everybody says, here's my X number of million, here's 2311 01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:40,080 Speaker 2: my million, and going to the athletic director saying, here's 2312 01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,160 Speaker 2: what we got it. We don't like this guy coaching 2313 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,560 Speaker 2: our team anymore. Get rid of him, because you know 2314 01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:49,800 Speaker 2: that happens, absolutely happens crazy. All right, One final thought 2315 01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:51,680 Speaker 2: before we take our final time out and head down 2316 01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:53,880 Speaker 2: the stretch for Rockies Road Rocket was on this date 2317 01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:56,479 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight to two things happened I'll never forget. 2318 01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:03,040 Speaker 2: During the day Notre Dame played. You played the Miami 2319 01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:06,639 Speaker 2: Hurricanes in South Bend in the battle that became known 2320 01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:11,600 Speaker 2: as the Catholics Versus Convicts, and it was CBS broadcasting. 2321 01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,760 Speaker 2: It was number one Miami. It was number four Notre Dame. 2322 01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:19,040 Speaker 2: Miami defending champs had won thirty five straight. Jimmy Johnson, 2323 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,880 Speaker 2: Lou Holtz, I was there a game I will never forget. 2324 01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:26,320 Speaker 2: Notre Dame wins at thirty one point thirty. Miami scores 2325 01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,559 Speaker 2: in the final seconds, Jimmy Johnson says, screw it. We're 2326 01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:31,360 Speaker 2: not going out of here with a tie. We're going 2327 01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,479 Speaker 2: for the win. I will never forget. Steve Walsh, the 2328 01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:38,560 Speaker 2: Miami quarterback, drops back, rolls out. He throws to the 2329 01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,720 Speaker 2: corner of the end zone, where the shaded area is 2330 01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:43,920 Speaker 2: of the stadium at that part of the day. Pat 2331 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:48,120 Speaker 2: Terrell of Notre Dame reaches in and bats the pass away. 2332 01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:51,519 Speaker 2: Notre Dame survives thirty one thirty bedlam on the field 2333 01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:55,000 Speaker 2: in one of the coolest college football experiences you would 2334 01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,120 Speaker 2: ever want to experience. 2335 01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:57,400 Speaker 8: He ended there. 2336 01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:01,479 Speaker 2: The talent on that feel that day for both teams. 2337 01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:03,519 Speaker 2: I was trying to look up how many players eventually 2338 01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,400 Speaker 2: went to the NFL. But that was the Tony Rice 2339 01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,439 Speaker 2: Notre Dame team. It was Michael Stonebreaker, one of the 2340 01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:12,599 Speaker 2: greatest names of all Ismael on that team by then, 2341 01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:16,240 Speaker 2: I think Rocket may have been a freshman on that team. 2342 01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:20,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember. And you've got the the Miami players, 2343 01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:23,960 Speaker 2: the quarterback Steve wallsh you and Cleveland Gary, the running 2344 01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:27,639 Speaker 2: back who played in the NFL, Andre Brown, Randall Hill 2345 01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:30,479 Speaker 2: had played in the NFL. Just a boatload of NFL 2346 01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:34,360 Speaker 2: talent across the board. But there was just such build 2347 01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 2: up and animosity, and the two teams didn't like each other, 2348 01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:42,280 Speaker 2: and our guy Joe Frederick was selling the Catholics versus Convicts. Yes, 2349 01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,880 Speaker 2: and just all of that built into the thirty for 2350 01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,480 Speaker 2: thirty that came out of it. Just and then like 2351 01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:51,800 Speaker 2: that's not enough. That happened. By day at night, I'm 2352 01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:56,400 Speaker 2: at the Linebacker Lounge and I will never forget looking 2353 01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,760 Speaker 2: across the bar to TV up on the wall, and 2354 01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, is that Kirk Gibson who's going to pinch hit? 2355 01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,600 Speaker 2: And it was Dodgers A's Game one of that eighty 2356 01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:10,600 Speaker 2: eight World Series. In a limping, hobbling, compromised Kirk Gibson 2357 01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,480 Speaker 2: hobbles to the plate, who can barely swing a bat 2358 01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:17,600 Speaker 2: because he's got double hamstring injuries, and Dennis Eckersley throws 2359 01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:21,200 Speaker 2: him a pitch and with all arms just scoops it, 2360 01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,240 Speaker 2: scoops it out of the ballpark and the call from 2361 01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:29,000 Speaker 2: Vin Scully is just iconic. Jack Buck was one did 2362 01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:32,200 Speaker 2: teav Vin did TV. Jack Buck had the radio and 2363 01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,960 Speaker 2: Gibson's limping around the bases with a game winning home 2364 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:39,120 Speaker 2: run doing the pumper and the the the linebacker lounge, 2365 01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:43,720 Speaker 2: the stunned and then celebration of that play just capped 2366 01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:45,320 Speaker 2: a truly unbelievable day. 2367 01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:47,480 Speaker 3: So was there any talent at the linebacker that night. 2368 01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,400 Speaker 2: I'm not prepared to comment about any of that. That 2369 01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:54,400 Speaker 2: play still exists, you know, it's still that is uh, 2370 01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:58,280 Speaker 2: that's a spot in South Bend. But that game Notre 2371 01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:01,800 Speaker 2: Dame in Miami, game by day, absolutely and that was 2372 01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,920 Speaker 2: Brett Musburger. That was you are looking live a Notre 2373 01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,959 Speaker 2: Dame the stadium in South Bend. Here come the Irish, 2374 01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:11,760 Speaker 2: Here come the Hurricanes. All right, we'll head down the street. 2375 01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:16,400 Speaker 2: We'll wrap it all up with Rockies Road and hand 2376 01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:18,680 Speaker 2: things off. Dan Carroll Top of the Hour at Cincinnati, 2377 01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:21,560 Speaker 2: tex Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon Round Table Show Long 2378 01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:25,080 Speaker 2: Necks in Richwood presented by Postman Law seven hundred WLW 2379 01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:35,360 Speaker 2: heading down the Stretch, final segment of the Cincinnati Tax 2380 01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:38,800 Speaker 2: Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon Round Table Show Long Necks 2381 01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:42,839 Speaker 2: in Richwood, presented by Postman Law Lance pocalyst Rocky. 2382 01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:43,240 Speaker 3: Boy Mean all right. 2383 01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:45,760 Speaker 2: It just pulled up Notre Dame's roster in that eighty 2384 01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:48,320 Speaker 2: eight National Championship season and tried these names on for 2385 01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:51,400 Speaker 2: size you ready. First, Tony Rice was, of course the quarterback. 2386 01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,600 Speaker 2: I lived across the hall from Tony Rice in Mishiawauka, Indiana. 2387 01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:55,560 Speaker 3: We lived in it. 2388 01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:58,040 Speaker 2: I lived in an apartment and Tony was right across 2389 01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:01,800 Speaker 2: the hall from me. We had on that team, Mark Green, 2390 01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:09,200 Speaker 2: Anthony Johnson, Tony Brooks, Ricky Waters, Rodney Culver. Rocket Ismail 2391 01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:11,840 Speaker 2: was a freshman on that team. I got a quick 2392 01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:15,200 Speaker 2: rocket Ismail story for you by by what his sophomore 2393 01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,680 Speaker 2: year he blew up into the Heisman contention and all that, 2394 01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:20,440 Speaker 2: and there was so much attention and publicity and spotlight 2395 01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:22,080 Speaker 2: on him, and he really didn't like any of it. 2396 01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:24,360 Speaker 2: And there was one day to get him out of 2397 01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,920 Speaker 2: the locker room and pass the media. Notre Dame put 2398 01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:30,040 Speaker 2: him in the the closed bind, the big hamper on wheels. 2399 01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:31,600 Speaker 2: They put him in it and put the towels over 2400 01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:33,600 Speaker 2: top and wield him out, so he didn't way, Yeah, 2401 01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:35,040 Speaker 2: so he didn't have I mean. 2402 01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:40,680 Speaker 4: I still hate Ty Denver this day because Rocket het 2403 01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:42,720 Speaker 4: a game at by U and I saw his heisman 2404 01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:47,040 Speaker 4: the facility. I wanted to knock it over screwed. 2405 01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:51,840 Speaker 2: I still remember Bo Schambecker deciding to kick the rocket 2406 01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:54,560 Speaker 2: ismail twice in the Big House and Rocket returned boat 2407 01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:55,240 Speaker 2: for touchdown. 2408 01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,400 Speaker 4: He was probably a big reason I went to Notre 2409 01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:00,720 Speaker 4: Dame so good. 2410 01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:03,080 Speaker 2: Derek Brown was on that team, went on to be 2411 01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:05,800 Speaker 2: a tight end in the NFL. Frank Jacob's on that team, 2412 01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:10,120 Speaker 2: Tim Grunhard, what a team, Tim Ryan, Reggie Hoe was 2413 01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:15,120 Speaker 2: the kicker. Chris Zorich, Oh my goodness, Chris Zorich, Wes Pritchett, 2414 01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:19,240 Speaker 2: Frank Stams, Michael Stone, Breaker, Ned Bolcar, all these guys, 2415 01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:22,400 Speaker 2: Todd Light remember all these guys from that tat Juan 2416 01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:23,800 Speaker 2: Francisco Moler. 2417 01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:26,640 Speaker 4: I was on the radio show with him a couple 2418 01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,680 Speaker 4: of days ago. Really yeah, when when Ler played. 2419 01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:33,280 Speaker 2: X oh all right, wow that that that was a team, 2420 01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:36,040 Speaker 2: and sadly, somehow the last Notre Dame. Well, I don't 2421 01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:38,000 Speaker 2: have to tell you but the last Notre Dame team 2422 01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:38,360 Speaker 2: to win. 2423 01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,480 Speaker 3: A national championship. How have you guys not won a 2424 01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:44,120 Speaker 3: national championship? So you have been to South Bend? 2425 01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I spent I spent four years in South Bend. 2426 01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:49,560 Speaker 2: That's that felt like about eleven years. 2427 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:51,400 Speaker 4: It's not a target rich environment. 2428 01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:56,160 Speaker 3: Well I was talking about the weather. Wow, sorry, you man? 2429 01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:57,360 Speaker 3: You what is wrong? 2430 01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:03,320 Speaker 2: You going places that are making me very uncomfortable? Making 2431 01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:07,120 Speaker 2: Frand and Phyllis look totally different at you. Now, that's 2432 01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:12,480 Speaker 2: not the Rocky we know. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's 2433 01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:15,200 Speaker 2: travel Rockies road before we get into some trouble. Brought 2434 01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:18,360 Speaker 2: to you by Queen City Metro. Metro is hiring apply 2435 01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:22,880 Speaker 2: go dash metro dot com slash careers a week ago. Well, 2436 01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:25,400 Speaker 2: let's see last week you had no Now I don't 2437 01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,200 Speaker 2: remember you did a game last Thursday? 2438 01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:32,320 Speaker 3: Did you do one on the weekend as well? Okay? Georgia, Georgia. 2439 01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:39,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. Southern Miss coach by my guy, Joe Bolden, former Michigan. 2440 01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:44,680 Speaker 4: He's a special teams and Nickelbacks coach there so and that. 2441 01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,560 Speaker 2: Southern Miss coaches the guy who wonted Marshall and his 2442 01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:49,800 Speaker 2: contract was up and they couldn't agree, and he said, 2443 01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:50,720 Speaker 2: all right, then I'm leaving. 2444 01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:50,960 Speaker 4: Hey. 2445 01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:53,240 Speaker 3: It was the Southern myth in the same conference. 2446 01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:57,000 Speaker 4: When he won the Sunbelt last year at Marshall that 2447 01:59:57,160 --> 01:59:59,560 Speaker 4: they had no plans to renew him. So he said, 2448 01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:00,800 Speaker 4: do you know what, screw you. I'm going to go 2449 02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:03,160 Speaker 4: to a rival in the Sundout and by the way, 2450 02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:05,920 Speaker 4: I'm bringing the quarterback, the running back, three of the 2451 02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,560 Speaker 4: receivers and like thirteen other guys. 2452 02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:11,160 Speaker 3: And Marshall had to withdraw from their bulkt Yeah. 2453 02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:14,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, players, I mean talk about it. I mean it 2454 02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:19,680 Speaker 4: had been so so satisfying for Charles Hoff. But no, 2455 02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:21,880 Speaker 4: they got a real good team, real good team. I 2456 02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,000 Speaker 4: think there'll be the team to come out of the 2457 02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:29,040 Speaker 4: Sun Belt West Georgia Southern. I I love that that program, yep, 2458 02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:32,720 Speaker 4: and just that town and that that university. But they 2459 02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:34,440 Speaker 4: came up a little bit short. They were down twenty 2460 02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:38,160 Speaker 4: seven to seven, yes, uh right at the twenty eight 2461 02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:41,080 Speaker 4: seven at the half, and came roaring back. 2462 02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:43,680 Speaker 3: It was a field goal game. So yeah, by the way, 2463 02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:45,040 Speaker 3: you you bought me a hat. 2464 02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:48,000 Speaker 2: I've thanked you and I'll publicly thank you because it's 2465 02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:51,320 Speaker 2: a really cool, sweet look in Georgia's southern hat, which 2466 02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:54,080 Speaker 2: goes with a lot of my wardrobe. So you know 2467 02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:56,960 Speaker 2: how I like to match, right what Phyllis is laughing? 2468 02:00:57,080 --> 02:00:58,920 Speaker 2: She says, that's like that's blues. 2469 02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:02,400 Speaker 3: Why got a match? Yeah, that's right, I gotta match 2470 02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:04,600 Speaker 3: and it matches with a lot of my wardrobes. So 2471 02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:06,440 Speaker 3: it was a good choice. Yeah, And there's enough. 2472 02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:08,000 Speaker 2: Intriguing in the way the logo is with the g 2473 02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:10,160 Speaker 2: M the stact on top. I'll get people say, what 2474 02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:10,680 Speaker 2: what is that? 2475 02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:14,280 Speaker 3: That's a Georgia? All right? Where are you this week? 2476 02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:16,480 Speaker 4: What day is it? 2477 02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:18,280 Speaker 3: Today is Wednesday? 2478 02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:22,440 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm ODU at James Madison, James Madison. I think 2479 02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:24,720 Speaker 4: it's probably the best team in the Sun Belt. ODU 2480 02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:27,880 Speaker 4: could be in the argument for that too. But they 2481 02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:29,360 Speaker 4: somehow long well not somehow. 2482 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:30,040 Speaker 3: They lost to. 2483 02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:33,600 Speaker 4: Marshall last week. I got blown out by him, you know, 2484 02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:38,320 Speaker 4: five five turnovers, just played just like the worst possible 2485 02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:41,320 Speaker 4: game you you could ever imagine. But but a really 2486 02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:44,400 Speaker 4: good team. Ricky Ronnie is the head coach formerly of 2487 02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:48,680 Speaker 4: Penn State. Yes, they got the number two rushing game 2488 02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:53,400 Speaker 4: what on an FBS, But I mean they're up there. 2489 02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,600 Speaker 4: They you know, run the ball, throw the ball, the 2490 02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:57,440 Speaker 4: whole deal. So it should be a lot of points. 2491 02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:01,000 Speaker 4: Jam you probably best defense, certainly in the Sun Belt. 2492 02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:03,960 Speaker 4: So uh, it's a packed house, sold out stadium, and 2493 02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:04,800 Speaker 4: it should be fun. 2494 02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:09,640 Speaker 3: Did you design any plays tonight on that script? I 2495 02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:11,920 Speaker 3: didn't do anything. That's all done. 2496 02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:14,840 Speaker 4: It's uh. By the way, with our team, both our teams, 2497 02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:18,640 Speaker 4: my oldest son and my first grader are both on buys. 2498 02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:20,560 Speaker 3: Both teams got the. 2499 02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:23,680 Speaker 4: One seed, so by this weekend and then we got 2500 02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:27,320 Speaker 4: the conference title next week, then the super Bowl. 2501 02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:30,640 Speaker 3: Go yeah baby, all right, good deal. 2502 02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:33,920 Speaker 2: All right, I think we're out of time. Let's say 2503 02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:38,800 Speaker 2: we gather here next Thursday night, normal night. That'll be 2504 02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:41,000 Speaker 2: our last Thursday of the month here. 2505 02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:46,800 Speaker 3: Really, yeah? Is it is that the final Thursday of tomorrow? Yeah? 2506 02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:49,840 Speaker 3: Next week's the final Thursday of October? What month? 2507 02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:50,080 Speaker 2: This is? 2508 02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:50,640 Speaker 3: October? 2509 02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:53,800 Speaker 2: It is, because it'll be the twenty We will have 2510 02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:56,240 Speaker 2: one more after that'll still okay? 2511 02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:56,680 Speaker 3: All right? 2512 02:02:56,920 --> 02:02:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we'll gather here after a win over the 2513 02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:03,680 Speaker 2: steel and they'll be three and four, and then we'll 2514 02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:06,240 Speaker 2: be talking about them handing the Jets there what will 2515 02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:09,280 Speaker 2: be their eighth consecutive loss to start the season, to 2516 02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:12,680 Speaker 2: get the Bengals to four and four, and then they'll 2517 02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:14,160 Speaker 2: beat the Bears to get the five and four and 2518 02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:14,640 Speaker 2: we'll be at the. 2519 02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:17,320 Speaker 4: Bye Week Show, which we always loved on the Bibleek Show. 2520 02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:19,480 Speaker 4: Bye Week Show is always better when the Bengals. 2521 02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:20,600 Speaker 3: Going having won a lot of games. 2522 02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:24,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's all mapped out now, we just need 2523 02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,160 Speaker 2: the Bengals to go according to their part. 2524 02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:29,240 Speaker 3: That's it. We are done in more ways than one. 2525 02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:30,960 Speaker 3: He is Rocky, I'm lance. 2526 02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:34,200 Speaker 2: Thanks to Joe Wael for producing, Thanks to Dave Abbott 2527 02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:37,080 Speaker 2: for engineering. Thanks to you for taking a listen. Always 2528 02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:39,600 Speaker 2: good seeing Fran and Phillos here. They're gonna walk out, 2529 02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:43,640 Speaker 2: just shaking their heads, going, those guys, those guys. This 2530 02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:46,760 Speaker 2: is the Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Showdon Round 2531 02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:49,560 Speaker 2: Table Show Log Next in Richwood presented by Postman Law 2532 02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:50,920 Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW